July 11, 2005
I'm Back!
Five hundred mosquito bites later and I'm still alive. Did I miss anything? Oh, yeah, THAT.
I was up getting ready for my camping trip at about 5 a.m., just as the news was breaking. Let me thank the whole Jawa crew for doing a fantastic job covering the London bombings and especially Mike Pechar and Chad Evans for their live updates. I had to travel 11 hours to get to where I was going and listened to breaking news most of the day and Mike's post was just outstanding. Thanks!
P.S-I have like 500 unread e-mails. If you sent me something in the last few days or so I might not be able to get back to you. Sorry.
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Welcome back, Rusty. You've been missed.
Posted by: Oyster at July 11, 2005 09:54 AM (fl6E1)
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Rusty--you were gone???
Kidding--welcome back, and I trust your puking has somewhat subsided .
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 11, 2005 10:30 AM (x+5JB)
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You know the mosquitos are a Joooooooish plot don't you? Just ask greg, but he keeps them away by wrapping himself in foil and chanting verses of Chomsky.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 11, 2005 02:28 PM (0yYS2)
July 07, 2005
London Underground Explosions
[Post Summary 1900 EDT] Reporting on today's explosions started around 0500 EDT at IP with updates through 0900, all reflected below. After that time, reports on the Internet and in the world's media ballooned into dissonance. Consequently, this post conveys the initial confusion, the speculation, and some false reports generated during the initial hours after the explosions.
At this time, 37 people have been confirmed as fatalities and 700 were injured from four separate bombings, three in the London Underground and one suicide bomber on a double-decker bus.
Prime Minister Tony Blair has spoken to and for the British people and the G8 world leaders in condemning the attacks while voicing a resolve not to be swayed by terrorism.
Every other conceivable aspect of the story is being vigorously pursued by the media and the blogosphere, with many sources linked to this post. Accordingly, I have no reason to continue updating this entry. It's more appropriate to investigate and report the multitude of eventualities and ramifications of the attacks in separate posts.
Update (Chad):
While Rusty is away, he gave me the keys to update important stories and clearly the London story is huge by all means. Unfortunately I do not have the time to cross-post every updated entry at The Jawa Report. You may view the updates here.
Also The Templar Pundit has some keen insight into the terror attack and ABC News is now reporting there were two unexploded bombs found nearby the other attacks.
Breaking news from the BBC:
Several people have been injured after explosions blamed on a power surge led to the whole London Underground network being closed down.Reports indicate that traffic congestion has resulted from fire and ambulance services crowding the streets. There are no reports of injuries yet.British Transport Police said some of the power surges had caused explosions.
Surges took place at Aldgate, Edgware Road, King's Cross, Old Street and Russell Square stations.
A spokesman said there were "walking wounded" at Liverpool Street station but one person's life was reported to be "at risk."
[Update 0630 EDT]
From the BBC:
A police spokesman said there were "quite a large number of casualties" at Aldgate Tube Station.And Scotland Yard confirmed one of several reports of explosions on buses in the city - in Tavistock Place - but said the cause was not yet known.
One caller to BBC Five said his friend had seen "the bus ripped open like a can of sardines and bodies everywhere."
Number 10 said it was "still unsure" whether the explosions were a terrorist attack and although casualties were reported, no further details were yet available.
From the Guardian Unlimited:
Many people were hurt today in a "major incident" on London transport as suspected terrorist attacks caused multiple explosions on tube trains and buses and plunged London's transport network into chaos.From network news, two deaths have been reported, presumably from the bus explosion. Six total explosions are said to have occurred.Several eyewitnesses reported that a bus had been ripped apart by a bomb near Russell Square. Police confirmed the explosion. Union officials said they had received reports of two more bus explosions, but details were not immediately available. All London hospitals are on major incident alert.
Laura Matthews, a press officer at Universities UK, with offices in Tavistock Square, said there were bodies lying around the bus explosion, some without arms or legs. "Get people down here quickly," she sobbed. She thought a bomb had gone off and was trying to evacuate her office.
In all incidents of this type, terrorism is suspected, however, there's no indication so far. The subway and the bus explosions are being reported as coincidental. I don't believe coincidental explosions occur.
[Update 0730 EDT]
From various sources:
In a quick press announcement at 7am, PM Tony Blair calls for calm and vows to defeat those that committed the "barbaric" terrorist acts. Blair will leave the G8 Summit and travel to London.
The BBC has reported from Arab sources that the explosions were likely the work of al-Qaeda.
All public transportation in and around London has been suspended.
Rescue operations are underway in six locations.
There is an unconfirmed report that Scotland Yard received a warning before the explosions. It's probably false.
At least 100 people (unconfirmed) are injured. Royal London Hospital reports 95 injured, 1 fatality.
A suspicious package believed to be an unexploded device has been found. Also, London police said traces of explosive have been found at one site.
An unknown group (Italian?) claims responsibility for the attacks in the name of al-Qaeda. Possibly bogus.
[Update 0900 EDT]
From Sky News:
A terror group linked to al Qaeda says it carried out a series of terror attacks on London that have left a number of people dead and hundreds injured.Shortly after 0800 EDT, Tony Blair read a joint statement from the G8 leaders, stating that the attack on London was an "attack on all nations" and violence will not change societies or values.A previously unknown group calling itself "Secret Organisation al Qaeda in Europe" said it carried out the attacks as revenge for British "military massacres" in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Two London hospitals have reported a total of 185 wounded after a series of blasts hit locations across the city on buses and Tube stations.
Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Ian Blair said there was evidence of explosives at at least two of the six sites.
Scotland Yard reports that seven explosions occurred and there was no prior warning. Government officials have closed the underground system for the day. Currently, the only vehicles operating in London are cars, taxis, and bicycles.
Companion post and pics at Interested-Participant.
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All those cursed Qaedas Bush trained over there in Iraq are now wreaking havoc.
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 07, 2005 06:07 AM (ScqM8)
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We are British, no-one intimidates us. We are not Spanish, we will not change our government, we will not pull out of Iraq, we will stay the course. 30 years of vicious terrorism from the Irish didn't stop us and neither will Islamic extremists.
Posted by: k at July 07, 2005 06:23 AM (PM/BC)
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Get these sick asian twats out of Britain NOW
Posted by: Rodders at July 07, 2005 06:26 AM (KF1fi)
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K, Blair and Bush stirred the goddamned Qaedas and then they attacked - wake up!
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 07, 2005 06:27 AM (ScqM8)
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Downing Street memo, you are an appeaser, and spineless, and Muslim probably, also you are uneducated.
Posted by: K at July 07, 2005 06:42 AM (PM/BC)
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Wow I woke up at 5:00 this morning and it was so quiet. Decided to sleep till 6:00. Woke up to a statement by Tony Blair. Britain is taking it on the chin for Supporting us. Also ABCNEW reports that some terrorist websites are claiming responsability. Thanks Mike for getting this up for us. Feel free to update as you see fit. I'll drive on in to work. I thought Mr. Blair's statement was good. He seems particularly upset and I can see why. Here is a pretty good quote from his statement. I'll be back online about 8:00 cdt.
"Whatever they do it is our determination that they will never succeed in destroying what we hold dear in this country and other civilized nations throughout the world," Blair said.
My thoughts go out to our good friend. News indicates terroist statments threaten Denmark and other countries if they don't pull out. So see you guys later. I'm severly bankwidth challenged right now and have lot's to do so Mike have at it. I will have some time to help if you need it. Drop me an email if you like.
Posted by: Hoiwie at July 07, 2005 06:44 AM (D3+20)
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It'll be very interesting to see how the majority of Brits react to this considering the amount of dissention over there.
You also have to wonder when they'll get back to the States.
Posted by: elliott at July 07, 2005 06:57 AM (XlQVK)
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The number of expolsions have been downgraded from 6 to 4. The number of deaths have been upgraded from 2 to in the 'double digits' with a least 100 unjuries.
Attacks occured against both the bus system and the metro. Both have been shut down. It is unclear whether the bombs were detonated remotely or by suicide bombers.
Posted by: greg at July 07, 2005 07:02 AM (vO/b3)
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Elliott, When the dust settles you will see how the British people reacts.
Posted by: Rodders at July 07, 2005 07:12 AM (KF1fi)
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I often wondered how long it would take for the terrorists to strike somewhere else besides the airlines...remember Spain a while back? It will be interesting to see how this affects other mass transit systems around the world. I wonder what it's going to do to London now? Is everyone going to stand still and be afraid to take the transit system now?
It's only a matter of time before they strike here again. This is devastating news to transit systems worldwide and it will definitely have a domino effect...the economy's going to suck from the losses of people not taking the trains or buses anymore.
Posted by: Laura at July 07, 2005 07:17 AM (L3PPO)
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London's Mayor Livingston just spoke. His message to the terrorists was profound. "You will fail."
And just like DSM to blame everyone except those who commit this and other acts of terrorism.
Posted by: Oyster at July 07, 2005 07:48 AM (YudAC)
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Hello,
This is interesting. Is the IRA (or similar group)? Is it an Iraq War-related thing?
I noticed a poster called "K" wrote: "Downing Street memo, you are an appeaser, and spineless, and Muslim probably, also you are uneducated."
Judging from what DSM wrote, "appeaser" doesn't appear accurate. There doesn't appear to be any evidence to suggest DSM is a Muslim (not that this should affect review of poster's content. Note: Suggestion of same would be fallacious).
Thank you for your time.
Posted by: Seamus at July 07, 2005 08:00 AM (hvJmm)
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Well it did't take long for the bastards to attack us on our soil, maybe we will now realise the pain america went through, and get together and blast these fuckers back alla
Posted by: BUNKER at July 07, 2005 08:03 AM (y/P3u)
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Rusty, any word on American Muslim reactions here at home to the bombings -- i.e. in Muslim neighborhoods here, in U.S. madrassas and mosques, even in U.S. government offices? What are they saying/doing? I'm thinking of the "celebrating" on 9/11 in some quarters.
Posted by: jordan at July 07, 2005 08:04 AM (7y04D)
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I can't decide if DSM is a terminal contrarian or just a bloody idiot.
Posted by: traderrob at July 07, 2005 08:10 AM (3al54)
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I'm back online.
Posted by: Howie at July 07, 2005 08:17 AM (D3+20)
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On NPR this am the British parlament minority leader was on. He heads their security commitee. He confirmed at least six and possibly seven expolosions.
Posted by: Howie at July 07, 2005 08:25 AM (D3+20)
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uh that's explosions.
Posted by: Howie at July 07, 2005 08:30 AM (D3+20)
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DSM
Listen you Quisling...realists and students of history KNOW that even if every American/Brit troop left both Afghanistan and Iraq TODAY the Islamists would do nothing more than ESCALATE their attacks.
Because their ideology towards the kaffir is "convert, submit, or die" and their goal is a Worldwide Caliphate with every one under Sharia.
People like you should be under surveillance.
Posted by: Darleen at July 07, 2005 08:45 AM (FgfaV)
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Laura, there is no other nation on earth that can absorb crisis with such calmness and professionalism as Britain. As I before stated, we are not Spanish. This makes us more determined to win this global war on terror. No one intimidates us. Since 9/11 we have expected this and were able to plan for such an act of terrorism as best as any country can. As we British stood "shoulder to shoulder" with America during 9/11, I know that the vast majority of Americans will stand "shoulder to shoulder" with us. The terrorists anger towards us, pales into insignificance with our determination to beat them. And we will. America, watch and witness the amazing courage, determination, calmness and controlled response of British people in the face of vicious terrorism.
Posted by: K at July 07, 2005 08:49 AM (PM/BC)
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K
I'm in CA and woke up to this story only an hour ago.
Hang in there. You know a majority of Americans will stand with you against the Islamo-fascists and their apologists.
Posted by: Darleen at July 07, 2005 08:50 AM (FgfaV)
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My heart goes out to the victims of this vicious cowardly attack. I pray that those lost are at peace, and that those affected most directly by this will have their creator close at hand. I also pray that vengeance for this craven act is swift and devastating to those that continue to make the death of innocents their primary purpose.
I also hope this leads to the downfall of another tyrant who would gladly support this type of activity. Iran, Syria and Saudi Arabia come quickly to mind.
Posted by: Defense Guy at July 07, 2005 09:03 AM (jPCiN)
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A despicable and cowardly act. I suppose it was only a matter of time before another attack, but it's still saddening to see.
Posted by: Venom at July 07, 2005 09:04 AM (dbxVM)
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Britain, know this: We here in the USA have your back. ..and woe betide the animals who perpetrated this atrocity. The bile rises in my throat at people who could even contemplate such attacks. They picked the wrong target> Despite the Galloways of the world, this is still the Britain of WInston Churchill and MArgret Thatcher. THere is a core of iron in the British people that I think that Al- Quaeda will regret stirring. I don't live in AUstralia, but I am sure I speak for them as well.
As for the rest of Europe. . wake the hell up. What in thae name of god makes you think that you won't be next? Paris? You think you are safe? Germany? You know very well its only a matter of time before you are hit, and the question becomes this - are you going to roll over and expowse your soft yellow underbelly or actually grow a spine?
Posted by: RYan MUrphy at July 07, 2005 09:09 AM (UF8Bd)
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K: We're with you.
Posted by: Oyster at July 07, 2005 09:10 AM (fl6E1)
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THis column was shortly after 9-11. Still, I think most of its content applies to the British just as well as Americans
http://www.celebratelove.com/lpitts.htm
Posted by: RYan Murphy at July 07, 2005 09:17 AM (UF8Bd)
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"People like you should be under surveillance."
How about six feet "under"?
Posted by: Kevin at July 07, 2005 09:25 AM (pfvPv)
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I think this fits the Brits here and now:
"When you get to the end of your life, would you exchange one moment from this day to that for one chance to come back here and tell our enemies that you may take our lives but you can never take our freedom." from Braveheart
We are in this WITH you just as you backed us in our moment of hell. There just ain't no understanding the rage of the lions when they are attacked - and yet, the 'monsters of terrorism' is pushing the envelop again. I wonder now, if their stomachs won't be churning more acid in fear when they see the flags of the Brits and Yanks raised highers and side by side coming at them. If they aren't, the cowards of terrorism are in for more surprises.
Prayers are with you Brits. We won't forget.
Posted by: Dale P at July 07, 2005 09:42 AM (WYvOv)
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Ryan: That letter from Leonard Pitts was spot on. I remember reading it right after 9/11, but it still rings true and it still elicits the emotion we felt then and feel now.
Posted by: Oyster at July 07, 2005 09:50 AM (fl6E1)
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/free.uk.talk.london/msg/7708d079750e5740?hl=en
Posted by: pikkio at July 07, 2005 10:02 AM (6eXCj)
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Hello Dale P,
You write something from the movie Braveheart and presumably connect it to today's unfortunate event. This strikes me as odd.
William Wallace took up arms against the English king Edward I.
I don't think the parallel works well, unless maybe you are rooting for those who did the bombing against English people today. You see, the English were invaders of the Scottish kingdom and the Wallace fought a guerrilla war against the English in England in response to foreign invasion and occupation.
Your historical analogy would work better (as stated prior) if you were a booster for the bomber fellows.
Thanks for your time.
Posted by: Seamus at July 07, 2005 10:20 AM (hvJmm)
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The next stop of the Circus of Terror will be here, in Italy.
I'm sure of this; Polony is not an interesting target and it havn't many muslims.
Posted by: Mirco at July 07, 2005 10:36 AM (76BwD)
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I've been reading some Euro blogs, and as I suspected, there are many, many people blaming America, but so far I haven't read one comment by someone who blames the islamoscum. Liberals are such morons. Well, I say that if they're not any smarter than that, they will get more of the same, and I hope they enjoy their dhimmitude.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 07, 2005 10:39 AM (0yYS2)
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Latest news here is the UK is 45 dead and 1000 injured one way or another.Also rumours of a bomber being shot dead in Docklands (East London) and of Israeli embassy being warned minutes before first explosion but police denying all knowledge.
Its an appalling day, but how can you completely protect against such lunacy? I pity the perpetrators - hatred doesn't really fix anything but I can understand those who feel it.......saddest thing is Mr Blair and Mr Bush probably see this as "acceptable civilian collateral damage"....
Pray for us.
Posted by: Paully at July 07, 2005 10:40 AM (4q6Ab)
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I will pray especially hard for you Paully. I will pray that you can understand that to pity the perpetrators and make a claim that Bush and Blair find this acceptable is the thinking of one who has already surrendered.
Posted by: Defense Guy at July 07, 2005 11:03 AM (jPCiN)
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DEFENCE GUY - your arrogance is what makes the US such a globally despised country. Being english and being eminently reasonable I was politely avoiding the issue that, if Bush and his bumboy Blair hadn't fabricated the evidence they needed to start a war against "terrorism" and the apparently world-threatening Mr Hussein, these people wouldn't be dead at all.
I hope you weren't one of those who voted him into power.....sleep tight.
Posted by: Paully at July 07, 2005 11:24 AM (4q6Ab)
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No, actually. What makes us despised is our power, plain and simple.
There was nothing polite about your initial post, so drop the English gentleman pose.
As far as fabricating evidence, it might interest you to know that every single Western intelligence service thought that Hussein had weapons.
Posted by: Shralp at July 07, 2005 11:35 AM (1hRqD)
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Yes Paully, because before we went into Iraq, these terrorists never did a damn thing to anybody. That you put terrorism into scare quotes as if it is imaginary says a lot about you and your thinking.
By the way asshole, you didn't avoid the subject which is why I called you on it.
Posted by: Defense Guy at July 07, 2005 11:37 AM (jPCiN)
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>>>"Laura, there is no other nation on earth that can absorb crisis with such calmness and professionalism as Britain. As I before stated, we are not Spanish. This makes us more determined to win this global war on terror."
You Brits are among the toughest most resilient people the world has ever produced. But I wonder if even you have not been corrupted by the Leftism that has descended over the West like a malodorous cloud. Has it sapped your will to fight? Will you now try to "understand" your enemy? We shall find out in the next few days if you're any better than the Spaniards.
Posted by: Carlos at July 07, 2005 11:38 AM (tFXpR)
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'An unknown group (Italian?) claims responsibility for the attacks in the name of al-Qaeda. Possibly bogus.'
Absolutely Bogus! While the Italians may hold Bush, Blair and our War in Iraq in contempt, they have nothing but the greatest admiration for the American, and by extension, the British people. That's a fact that you can bank on.
Posted by: greg at July 07, 2005 11:51 AM (Q+rdl)
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It is Ironic that the ex Mayor of New York Rudi Giuliani was having his breakfast next door to Liverpool St Station the same time as the first bomb blast went off this morning. He said "The terrorist who commited this callous attack will be brought to justice"
Posted by: Rodders at July 07, 2005 12:10 PM (KF1fi)
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Seamus: You're obviously from the other side of the fence to nitpick in this fashion. Dale P simply re-iterated a quote which can be used universally regardless from whence it came.
Shralp: Well put. It's Paully's type that keeps giving these terrorists the moral support they need. Way to go, Paully. You've had nearly 4 years to come to the right conclusion. Time's running out. Even so - I pray that you and your loved ones are spared.
Posted by: Oyster at July 07, 2005 12:10 PM (fl6E1)
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Seamus: I'd say the quote works incredibly well, unless you're claiming that Britain is invading the Muslims and they're fighting back. From this side of the pond, it looks like these Islamofascists are invading Britain, having had great success in France, Germany and the Netherlands.
I'm really, really in Britain's corner on this one. They need to stop the public incitement to this sort of thing that's been allowed for way, way too long.
Posted by: Dan at July 07, 2005 12:37 PM (XYoed)
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From an American with a heavy heart today, I send you my deepest sympathies and condolences to the great people of the UK. You are in my prayers. I thank you for supporting America in her time of need and I will encourage my countrymen to return the favor and support the UK in her time of need. The downing street memo is a terrible truth, but make no mistake, this war between radical Islam and free societies that value tolerance and liberty would have occurred even if G. Dubya Bush had never invaded Iraq. Stand as One, courageous in defense of freedom.
-kk
Posted by: kk at July 07, 2005 12:57 PM (scces)
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I often wonder how people manage to so completely make themselves blind to the obvious. Islam is a very large elephant in a very small room, and everytime it knocks something over, some people still refuse to even take notice. Islam is anathema to civilization, and no amount of mewling platitudes will change that. You can't appease a mad dog, you can only kill it.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 07, 2005 02:00 PM (0yYS2)
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Improbulus Maximus....Please stop using big words like marmalade to make yourself look intelligent....Just say what you mean "Kill the murdering BASTARDS"
Posted by: Rodders at July 07, 2005 02:08 PM (KF1fi)
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Hi, I´m Louis from Argentina, I truly feel sorry for what has happened, you may find this hard to believe, but I am sorry because the Uk is a part of our world and in part belongs to all mankind,
just like any other free place.
Watching all those desperate people suffering for their loved ones hurt, even not knowing them.
No simple human being should be suffering for the
decisions of a few cowards (I refer to Bush/Blair twins) But this issue has two realities, one, the fact that if muslims reach nuclear power, they would like to profit and rule us all, Two, if there is no resistance to their waytoplay (the US/UK WAY)we will all end up chained in our ankles to a black steel ball pumping oil diamonds gold silver and any other profitable resource for these nuclear mosquitoes.
feel free to send your comments, CHEWACCA@GMAIL.COM your opinion will help me open my mind even more and maybe make friends and not war. I love you all who make peace and love and not a blood bath.
Posted by: Louis at July 07, 2005 02:12 PM (WWEQ3)
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"In some ways she was far more acute than Winston, and far less susceptible to the Party propaganda. Once when he happened to mention the war against Eurasia, she startled him by saying casually that in her opinion the war was not happening. The rocket bombs that fell daily on London were probably fired by the Government of Oceania itself, 'just to keep people frightened'. This was an idea that literally had not occurred to him."
Eric Arthur Blair, AKA George Orwell, '1984'
Remember, it's fiction, pure fiction. Gosh! Golly! That Orwell, what a moonbat! Tinfall! Tinfall! Gitcher tinfall rot hair!
Posted by: greg at July 07, 2005 02:14 PM (PnMkz)
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>>> "I am sorry because the Uk is a part of our world and in part belongs to all mankind,"
Luis,
I knew the instant I read this touchy feely hogwash platitude that it would soon be followed by a dig at Bush. But the rest of your post made some sense.
Posted by: Carlos at July 07, 2005 02:19 PM (tFXpR)
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Carlos: Is it possible we aren't the only idiots around?
YBP (Fellow idiot)
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 07, 2005 02:21 PM (x+5JB)
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I have no problem with bush or the american people with who I lived with when I was in new york for about 10 years of my life, thanks for your comment Carlos, anyway you have to accept that not everyone will think as you. That´s why the system has tought you well. It would be nicer if people were more humble and really cared for life and not limits. There is something that will really destroy us all and is not terrorism.
It´s massive resource exploit.
Once the earth says no more, we will crack apart
and you never know when that is going to be, earth does not warn in the newspapers unfortunately Carlos.
Louis
Posted by: Louis at July 07, 2005 02:28 PM (WWEQ3)
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"But MSNBC TV translator Jacob Keryakes, who said that a copy of the message was later posted on a secular Web site, noted that the claim of responsibility contained an error in one of the Quranic verses it cited. That suggests that the claim may be phony, he said.
"This is not something al-Qaida would do," he said."
Posted by: greg at July 07, 2005 02:31 PM (PnMkz)
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Our thoughts and prayers from America are with you. May God bless Londontown and all it's fine people. God Save The Queen.
Posted by: Jim in Boston at July 07, 2005 02:33 PM (H1wS0)
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And that is something every single one of us forgets.
Posted by: Louis at July 07, 2005 02:33 PM (WWEQ3)
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No simple human being should be suffering for the
decisions of a few cowards (I refer to Bush/Blair twins)
Well, I see Louis is ready to embrace Dhimitude. Why Louis? Got a problem with females so you want them covered up and shackled to the home? Yearning for 4 wives? Looking forward to strapping bombs on your body and blowing up a few infidels and Jews and "earning" yourself 72 virgins?
WHO THE HELL do you think bombed the WTC in 1993?
Jaysus on a Pony, Western Civilization is under direct attack and you blame the USA/England!
Do us all a favor and drown yourself, you immoral appeaser.
Posted by: Darleen at July 07, 2005 02:34 PM (FgfaV)
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God save the Queen? What did the Queen give you?
She along with 4 or 5 more morons rule our world with us like puppets from their tight strings, go to africa and see the childrens eye balls being rubbed by flies, while the Queen receives a call
from her group of British Petroleum confirming the sales profit.
I think the Queen has had too much of a good time already.
She never left her palace, and looks like she lived in a criogenic state. Nothing seems to
stop her from making money out of all of us.
So let´s better save the earth which is the one
renting you the space where you live.
Louis
Posted by: Louis at July 07, 2005 02:41 PM (WWEQ3)
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Regardless of Louis' stance on the war, he does not advocate the murder of civilians. He is not a terrorist. He has the right to speak up and voice his thoughts along with anyone else here, no?
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 07, 2005 02:44 PM (x+5JB)
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Louis
The terrorist who commits the type of act seen today could not give even one shit about the state of 'mother earth', and if they have their way you won't be allowed to either. Keep that in mind when prioritizing.
Posted by: Defense Guy at July 07, 2005 02:47 PM (jPCiN)
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Thanks ybp, for understanding that i´m not a terrorist, i want us all to see good news everyday
not wake up between crap of few.
Posted by: Louis at July 07, 2005 02:47 PM (WWEQ3)
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YBP: yeah but he could have stopped at his support for those who died and left the debate on money and greed for another day. But it's easy to get baited into changing the subject. Myself I think we should mainly express our support for out ally here.
Posted by: Howie at July 07, 2005 02:49 PM (D3+20)
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Loius is right about the queen. She's a whore. Why should we give a shit about her, after all we rebelled from the lineage of her monarchy.
I never understood America's fascination with the bitch. Piss on her and her inbred brood.
Posted by: greg at July 07, 2005 02:50 PM (PnMkz)
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Louis,
the Queen of England didn't cause poverty in Africa. Africans have been poor and miserable since they learned to walk on two feet. British colonialism actually raised their standard of living, and they've been going dowhill ever since they gained independence.
Posted by: Carlos at July 07, 2005 02:51 PM (tFXpR)
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I agree with you defence guy as I have posted before "But this issue has two realities, one, the fact that if muslims reach nuclear power, they would like to profit and rule us all, Two, if there is no resistance to their waytoplay (the US/UK WAY)we will all end up chained in our ankles to a black steel ball pumping oil diamonds gold silver and any other profitable resource for these nuclear mosquitoes."
>I guess that reflects the idea, which is similar to what you say, we may not be so different after all, if there is some life in all your hearts, i´m not here to make you guys upset, i´m here to exchange ideas, but for some of you´s it makes me feel like if you had a nuke right now, you would start the 3rd ww on the ones who don´t agree, and that would be walking backwards instead of advancing and learning from errors, MAN is the only animal stumblling with the same stone twice.....
Posted by: Louis at July 07, 2005 02:52 PM (WWEQ3)
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Gee, Greg, how do you really feel?
You want to wear a dainty little crown, too--ADMIT IT! (Kidding.)
Howie: Agreed. We must be with the British all the way. The National Front certainly has some new ammo after today.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 07, 2005 02:53 PM (x+5JB)
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Louis is alright.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 07, 2005 02:55 PM (x+5JB)
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Hey!! Louis, I totally agree with you. The Queen is nothing more than an old fat ass with a totally invented position in the UK society.
Posted by: Belu at July 07, 2005 02:58 PM (WWEQ3)
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Carlos have you got anything against blacks? Your destiny was fine being born maybe in the Uk,
If destiny was differnt for you, you could have been born there too, As per your name you sound more like a latin trying to look like british.
Carlos? where did you get that name from?
If you were british, you should be called Michael or George, or Edward but calos sounds from Colombia.
Posted by: Louis at July 07, 2005 02:59 PM (WWEQ3)
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Louis, behave before I take back what I said.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 07, 2005 03:01 PM (x+5JB)
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I understand Louis point and stand by his side all the way. It seems like patriotism is all together over rated and western people is ready to act as fanatic as eastern people. The only difference is that one defend a religiuos point of view and the other defend basically MONEY.
And the Queen is a senile, bitch who doesn´t give a damn about other people.
Posted by: Martin at July 07, 2005 03:02 PM (WWEQ3)
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What, has the world become full of Johnny Rottons?
God Save the Queen.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 07, 2005 03:05 PM (x+5JB)
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Loius,
Carlos is an example of the insidious racism that is rampant in America. It is so strong that he hates his own people. What could be more sad than that?
Posted by: greg at July 07, 2005 03:07 PM (PnMkz)
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greg,
Yeah, and your hate is such that you hate your own country, pot -> kettle.
Posted by: dave at July 07, 2005 03:09 PM (fsJ2z)
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Greg, have another iced cappuccino and chill. What did Carlos say that was racist?
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 07, 2005 03:11 PM (x+5JB)
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Last contact from me, I am right now leaving home from work, Again my deepest feelings with innocent simple people, families and friends of the victims, but not with the supporters of a
world resource proliferation.
One last thing I am positive about, Bush is an old friend of Bin, never worndered why Bin was never caught? Bacause they are bloody friends.
2 hours before 9/11 Bush already knew about the flights, as he supported all the planning of such
attacks, also backed up by the israeli.
Finally they blame it on Alqaeda, which only rented the suicide hijackers.
Think with the 2mb of ram you still got, you string pulled puppet army for the Queen.
Long live peace tolerance and love, that´s all
you will get to take when you take your last trip.
Posted by: Louis at July 07, 2005 03:11 PM (WWEQ3)
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Louis
Who the hell would I nuke? No, I have no problem with people who have a dissenting opinion, but I have a major problem with those who would use violence as an form of political speech. I have a problem with those that would excuse it as acceptable, or who would turn the blame from the criminals to the victims. I also have a problem with those that think it is just fine that the opression of man continues, so long as it doesn't happen here.
I would caution that if the terrorists do use nukes, we will be obliged to follow suit. It may be the simple fear that we will wipe out Mecca that keeps them from doing so. Remember, a muslim cannot reach paradise if he has not completed his pilgramage and he cannot do so if it is gone. I hope and pray it never comes to that.
Posted by: Defense Guy at July 07, 2005 03:11 PM (jPCiN)
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I love the American people, I despise our government.
Get it Dave?
Now go slurp some government cock, bitch.
Posted by: greg at July 07, 2005 03:12 PM (PnMkz)
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I agree to that Defense guy too, we are closing in to a similar idea.
Posted by: Louis at July 07, 2005 03:14 PM (WWEQ3)
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Dave,
Here you go, have a kleanex. There's something on your chin.
Posted by: greg at July 07, 2005 03:22 PM (PnMkz)
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Greg, belu, Martin, Defence guy Young bourbon professional and Carlos, thanks for changing words here, I wish you all a nice no more bad news day, and remember that what makes us special is the freedom of choice. We will never truly have that while seeing extreme poverty in one side of the planet and extreme wealth in the other end. The rest depends on the 4 or five monkeys we vote.
Have a nice evening,
Friend of evrysingleoneofyou´s
Louis
Posted by: Louis at July 07, 2005 03:23 PM (WWEQ3)
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Louis,
I'm an American who has lived in Africa for a number of years. I have also lived in South America for an even greater number of years. I love Africa and I once considered it my home. But I don't romanticize the poor like you irrational Leftists do. Kenyans in particular I found to be lazy and dishonest. I don't trust them any farther than I can throw them. If you hired them for a job, they'd stop working as soon as you turned your back. If they are still poor it's because they are generally a lazy and corrupt people. And it's a lot worse in other parts of Africa. 98% of the money we send them goes down the shithole. Don't blame the Queen of England.
Posted by: Carlos at July 07, 2005 03:24 PM (tFXpR)
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All my love and solidarity after this coward terrorist attack againts the London and British people. This was not only an attack against you, british, it has been an attack againts all of us in the WEST from the Fascist Islam. They will never prevail on us. Never.
Pedro Avilés
Journalist and Blogger
Madrid, Spain, EU
www.elreporter.com
Posted by: Pedro Avilés at July 07, 2005 03:24 PM (6aB7n)
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As an American I want to tell the people of the world to stop. Stop blaming the Republicans, Conservatives, and whatever other names you choose to call the people that are sick to death of the crap that pours out of some of your mouths, The G8 summit for instance, is it or is it not taking place to create solutions to problems that you protesting unemployed liberals are raising cain about and here you are again, disrupting the proceedings. What happened in London this morning is a damn shame, but it isn't to be blamed on Bush & Blair, Geez give it up Please start blaming the ones that are doing this. The ones that are killing innocent people. Stop protecting them with all these Human rights, Equal rights BS. I would kill a vicious dog that harms one of my loved ones and not even blink an eye. What makes you people think that they even remotely deserve to be treated humanely, Were the people who were burned and buried alive in these bombings treated humanely.
Posted by: Terri at July 07, 2005 03:26 PM (HSi9I)
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Pedro--You might want to ask Howie to take off some of your information for safety reasons.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 07, 2005 03:29 PM (x+5JB)
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I would if I knew how. I'll look into it later should Pedro request it. In the mean time Pedro don't be an idiot like me.
Posted by: Howie at July 07, 2005 03:32 PM (D3+20)
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greg,
did I hit a nerve 
Posted by: dave at July 07, 2005 03:36 PM (fsJ2z)
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From this way we are take off the Islas Malvinas (Falkland Islands). Anyway, i'm consterned with the explosions.
Posted by: Diego at July 07, 2005 03:39 PM (iOy71)
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Pedro, comprendo tu ira, pero sos un pelotudo hijo de la monarquÃÂa española que degolló indios en america por oro y plata, lo mismo que la reina.
Les pasa lo que les pasa, porque pasan los años y se hacen los que se olvidaron y asi america africa y asia sigue en la marginalidad absoluta,
mientras vos seguramente tenes un buen sueldo y te tiras la plata de putas en tu departamento haciendote el reportero star.
Anda a lavarte el orto.
Translated to english by me myself, jeje
Pedro, I understand your anger, but you are a frican ashole yourself, as Spain your country
also supported piracy a lot of years ago, and
killed millions of indians by their back like rats, then raped their woman, and slaverized their kids for sweeping your boats.
I´m sure you are a reporter that have a nice apartment nowdays, and fuck whores daily with
the nice money you earn, pretending to be a star reporter for a phony magazine.
I did not get upset about the solidarity with the victims, I scandalized myself because you refer to the fascist islam like your Spain was disneyland.
Jerk asshole Spain has the wealth it has due to millions of killings, while indians welomed you
with gold and silver you offered mirrors and a big spade on their backs.
Assshole
Posted by: Louis at July 07, 2005 03:40 PM (WWEQ3)
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>>>"Carlos is an example of the insidious racism that is rampant in America."
America is the LEAST RACIST country on the planet. I have lived on three continents and travelled on four, so I know this from personal experience-- not from brainwashing at Liberal universities, like you. Argentina is possibly the MOST RACIST country on the planet (after Spain).
Posted by: Carlos at July 07, 2005 03:49 PM (tFXpR)
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Gee, where is COOqarUK when ya need him? For anyone that's been on the blogs a while, you will remember this english chap as totally against the Iraq invasion, and totally against his leader, Blair for allying with us.
Us American bloggers would tell him, "if this happened in your country, what would you say then?"
Sadly, this has now happened there, and I still wonder what he would think now.
I say let them all kill each other and leave Iraq and to hell with them. That is NOT letting the enemy think we are chicken shit. These sleeper cells are all over the damned place, what makes anyone think that continuing to fight in Iraq and finding Osama and Zarqawi's gonna stop the bombings??
We need to focus on those already here first, and make sure no one else gets in.
Posted by: Laura at July 07, 2005 03:53 PM (L3PPO)
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Not really Carlos, jews flew when the wwII, Spanish came to eat too, Italians also had a room, while the rest of the world was raining in blood, the fact that you have travelled so much does not mean you haven´t missed historical genocides. If you are above 40 you know perfectly well what I mean.
Anyway, Everyone horrorizes about recent events
because we have no pictures or video of US colonization and fumigation of indians, as the same happened in the US with the indians, it all comes back but with better weapons, that´s all.
Men don´t learn from passed mistakes carlos, or we would already have a better world.
Anyhow, i understand your point and in some way agree to some of your sayings.
Posted by: Louis at July 07, 2005 03:56 PM (WWEQ3)
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Louis,
you know that when an Argentinian calls somebody a "Boliviano" he means one thing-- inferior indian. You know that anybody in Argentinina who isn't blond and blue eyed is a "Boliviano", spit! It is an openly racist country-- unlike the U.S.
Posted by: Carlos at July 07, 2005 04:07 PM (tFXpR)
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British, you get wath you deserve, wath the hell you think you are?
Posted by: billy at July 07, 2005 04:24 PM (aHzGL)
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"Report: Israel Was Warned Ahead of First Blast
13:30 Jul 07, '05 / 30 Sivan 5765
(IsraelNN.com) Army Radio quoting unconfirmed reliable sources reported a short time ago that Scotland Yard had intelligence warnings of the attacks a short time before they occurred.
The Israeli Embassy in London was notified in advance, resulting in Finance Minister Binyamin Netanyahu remaining in his hotel room rather than make his way to the hotel adjacent to the site of the first explosion, a Liverpool Street train station, where he was to address and economic summit."
This from the mouths of the Israelis themselves. Why the fuck weren't the British people warned? To those of you who are so cock sure that this was an Al Qaeda job, I say not so fucking fast.
Posted by: greg at July 07, 2005 04:25 PM (yzwgH)
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>>>"To those of you who are so cock sure that this was an Al Qaeda job, I say not so fucking fast."
greg,
I'm fond of you, you know that. But you're a fucking lunatic.
Posted by: Carlos at July 07, 2005 04:28 PM (tFXpR)
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I think we all see where Gregs posts are going, from Israeli advanced warning -> Mossad agents + U.S Government plot to cause chaos in London in order to boost the support for the war in the U.K.
let me just save you about 4 more posts till you "gently" suggest the above.
Posted by: dave at July 07, 2005 04:47 PM (fsJ2z)
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Carlos...US not openly racist?...What planet are you on?
and Billy...I have only two words to say to you and the second one is "OFF"
Posted by: Rodders at July 07, 2005 04:48 PM (KF1fi)
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GEEZ, people! It bitching amongst yourselves solving this terrorist problem? No! Here we are, tearing ourselves apart, insulting and wailing because we have some differences of opinions and then pointing fingers at Bush, Blair, the Queen, and Africa. The people who deserve the blame are the people who set the bombs and then sang and rejoiced afterwards. Blame them, they actually did it. So, around 40 people were killed, maybe 700 or more injured. And we deal with it how? By tearing each other's heads off? By insulting one another? Big fucking deal. That's not solving anything. It's in times like these when we need to lose the hysteria and start figuring out a way to make sure that shit like this doesn't happen. Screaming at one another accomplishes nothing and further divides us all. So suck it up, act like civilized people, and start using your scathing wits to come up with a solution to what's happening. And when we're all done with that, we can figure out a way to make sure that when the shit does hit the fan, people don't start hitting each other with ill-considered words and threats. This is precisely why these folks bombed London-- to divide us, and cause chaos, so we can destroy each other. The way to fight their agenda of division is cooperation and unity to solve a collective problem. Screaming and bitching won't change the fact that there are 40 people dead and there's lots of work to be done. So come off it.
Posted by: Amy at July 07, 2005 05:21 PM (c7cZk)
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no political rants here.
I've read a lot of posts from all over the world today, pointing fingers, blaming one or the other, voicing opinions that would make Hitler happy.
I hope people will sober up and realize that this is a war. The world is truly changed.
Stand tall and proud, England. There are Americans who love you.
Posted by: Ron at July 07, 2005 06:53 PM (6krEN)
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I'm so fed up with people who speak as if they knew everything and everyone... Carlos, how long have you lived/stayed in Argentina? It must have been many years, if you could meet every single Argentinian (but one-- me) and know what they think of people or how they insult them. Though many people do, my friends, family and I never call someone a "boliviano" when we want to insult them, so stop saying "Argentinians this and that". Speak about what you know!
By the way, we call them "pelotudo". And that's what I'm saying to you.
Posted by: Pamela at July 07, 2005 07:00 PM (35+dl)
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Amy, although I appreciate what your saying, the fact that we are all screaming, ranting and raving is because we CAN'T stop this! It's an invisible enemy...they've been here a long time, plotting and planning, there are sleeper cells everywhere....you can close the borders, blah, blah, blah, and tighten security but these assholes are already IN....your neighbor next door, the guy who owns the 7-11, anyone's fair game.
I can almost predict where the next hits are going to be, but judging how many people post on these blogs and how a terrorist was actually found and captured through the blogs, I will not say where they will most likely happen, so as not to give them any ideas, but then again, they already know about these areas.
Pretty soon, you will be frisked when you go to the supermarket...it's not gonna be possible to go anywhere in public without going through some security gate or being searched...you think the lines at the airport are long now? Wait till you have to wait in lines at other places too.
Posted by: Laura at July 07, 2005 08:06 PM (L3PPO)
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>>>"Carlos...US not openly racist?...What planet are you on?"
Nope, not openly racist. You want open racism go to Europe and South America.
>>>"Carlos, how long have you lived/stayed in Argentina? It must have been many years, if you could meet every single Argentinian (but one-- me) and know what they think of people or how they insult them."
Pamela,
Nobody ever stopped criticizing the U.S. simply because they didn't meet "every single American", so I don't intent to stop criticizing racist Argentina simply because I have not met every single Argentinian. I've met enough of them, and I've met the people they call "bolivianos". If you're not a racist, that's great-- and neither are most Americans. But I'm talking about ARGENTINA, not Pamela. And Argentinians are FAMOUS for their racist Euro-wannabe attitude. Get this through your thick skulls, YOU AREN'T EUROPEANS.
Posted by: Carlos at July 07, 2005 08:39 PM (8e/V4)
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Hello Oyster,
The poorly applied quote from the movie fits poorly when we look at historical background. That is, it appears to fit the bomber side better than the occupier side.
Hi Dan,
You write: “Seamus: I'd say the quote works incredibly well, unless you're claiming that Britain is invading the Muslims and they're fighting back.”
This is an easy claim to make in a historical fact and logic sense with a small caveat: UK troops invaded Iraq. This much is clear. UK troops (Royal Marines, etc…) did not ‘invade Muslims,’ so to speak. It is helpful to understand the meaning of terms and how they are applied. One cannot invade a Muslim in a military sense.
Then, you mention, “Islamofascists” (a term with a lot of baggage) invaded European countries with success. You seem to be referring to immigration. “Invasion” does not seem like a good working idea here, i.e. many of these immigrants are naturalized citizens and some have work visas. ‘Invited’ “Invaders” might work better.
You then mention you are on BritainÂ’s side. I would hope you will regard Blair and Bush quite critically then.
Thanks for the time.
Posted by: Seamus at July 07, 2005 08:48 PM (hvJmm)
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greg,
sorry to burst another one of your bubbles:
From Powerline blog:
"I'm afraid we may have an urban legend in the making. Benjamin Netanyahu is in London to give a speech at an economic conference, and it has been reported that he got advance warning of the impending attacks:
Army Radio quoting unconfirmed reliable sources reported a short time ago that Scotland Yard had intelligence warnings of the attacks a short time before they occurred.
The Israeli Embassy in London was notified in advance, resulting in Finance Minister Binyamin Netanyahu remaining in his hotel room rather than make his way to the hotel adjacent to the site of the first explosion, a Liverpool Street train station, where he was to address and economic summit.
This report has now been corrected; there was no warning until after the first blast. A correspondent wrote to The Corner:
I have just spoken to a source very close to Israeli Finance Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Netanyahu was scheduled to speak later today at an economic conference in a London hotel directly above the site of one of the subway explosions.
"The explosion happened just beneath the hotel at the same time the meeting with businessman interested in investing in Israel was expected to begin," said an aide to Netanyahu.
There were published reports early this morning that Scotland Yard officials contacted the Israelis minutes before the attacks to warn them of imminent terrorist strikes.
My sources in the Israeli Government are denying those reports. They say the Israeli Embassy and the Netanyahu security team received reports immediately AFTER the first explosion, warning Netanyahu not to go to the hotel.
"There was no early information about terrorist attacks," said Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom on Israel Army Radio. "After the first explosion an order was given that no one move until things become clear."
I'd be surprised if left-wing and anti-Semitic groups don't seize on the incorrect early report to spin out idiotic conspiracy theories, just as they did with no provocation in connection with the Sept. 11 attacks."
Posted by: Carlos at July 07, 2005 09:12 PM (8e/V4)
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Far too late, Carlos. The anti-semitic slime like Raimondo are already on the job.
Posted by: SPQR at July 08, 2005 12:33 AM (xauGB)
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Meanwhile, I see that greg still has that filthy mouth.
Posted by: SPQR at July 08, 2005 12:37 AM (xauGB)
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You Brits are damn right we Americans are with you. As an expat living (somewhere) in Europe, I can say with authority you're about the last nation in Europe who remembers your principles (aside from G. Galloway, that pathetic little tit, and his buddies, that is).
The rest of them, lead by the ever-courageous French, are willing to sell out our history and culture to appease these Islamofascist death merchants. Well not me. Not on this boy's watch.
But there's more than one reason we stand with you. It's not just values and ideas. It's that you can stand on your own, and you retain enough self respect to pick up and go on.
I was amazed at the will in the eyes of the Londoners on the television last night, and it has only increased my esteem and respect toward your great nation.
Posted by: Mikey at July 08, 2005 01:52 AM (Rbewf)
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Seamus - Thankyou for YOUR time as well. I am well aware of the history behind William Wallace. However, the statement I used was certainly not meant to be construed (at least by me) at THIS time for anything other than a specific focus on saying to an enemy (and that DOES apply to the cowards that attacked London this day)that they may take our lives but not our freedom - and that DOES apply to any freedom loving person anywhere. Wallace may be the 'originator' for the statement, but the statement itself says volumes to any freedom loving person wherein some terrorist would try to steal it by killing and maiming.
The rancor obviously still felt by some about Wallace and Longshanks is not what I had in mind or to be an insult. I just thought the statement fit the bill because I believe the Brits ARE also freedom loving and would defend it to their deaths. I really think you misinterpreted how the statement could well apply, though it may not be the best in everyman's eyes.
I find it interesting that because I use a 'universal' type quote for freedom loving folks, you take it as though because it came from Wallace who fought England, that I support 'the other side'. Please think again. Many here are more interested, as I, in the welfare of those Brits that fell in harm's way today and pray for their swift recovery, and for the families of those lost - our sincere condolences and support, and for all of England, never give in.
Posted by: Dale P at July 08, 2005 02:10 AM (39PE9)
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Good Morning All
Scotland Yard had the scum that commited these bombings under surveillance for weeks, and now they have mysteriously vanished. Anyone that is suspected of being a terrorist should be arrested and interrogated, Whatever their nationality. In Britain we are processing a greater number of asylum seekers weekly and in those towns that they are sent to the crime rate has increased (Rape, Assaults, Theft, ect)....How long do we have to put up with this? We also have extremists on our streets recruiting young lads to become terrorists...I think Mr Blair will have to get his act together before the people do it for him
Posted by: Rodders at July 08, 2005 02:42 AM (KF1fi)
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Carlos:'This report has now been corrected; there was no warning until after the first blast. A correspondent wrote to The Corner:'
Carlos, don't you know that history is being rewritten and vanishing down the 'memory hole' on a daily basis? I hate to burst your bubble, but you're a fucking idiot. Stop slurping on that government dick, you're going to ruin your teeth.
'The report has now been corrected', just as the Ministry of Truth 'corrected' reports in the book, '1984'.
There is ZERO evidence that this attack was done by Al Qaeda. Only a decree by Big Brother. I for one do not love Big Brother.
Posted by: greg at July 08, 2005 03:23 AM (EoFYh)
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When freedon is referred, is it freedom to choose betwen brand A & B (and eventually C), between lies and more lies or between bad and worst? the freedom claimed to be defended is just a good excuse good enough for mindless people. people who dare have conclutions on their own might have quite a different opinion than people who do not. that is bad enough for them.
Posted by: ignasi at July 08, 2005 04:42 AM (AscQ4)
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Hello Dale P,
Thank you for the reply.
Okay.
Posted by: Seamus at July 08, 2005 04:55 AM (hvJmm)
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Good morning, back to catch up and already seen very interesting things from all, that´s good, because at least we can read and open our minds.
It´s been quite rough to read what you guys say to each other including me of course, but it´s all
about different points and knowledge of the facts.
You all know, very deep inside we all love each other.
Louis
Posted by: louis at July 08, 2005 06:07 AM (WWEQ3)
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the only way to defrat these monsters is with visions and poetry
Posted by: ed at July 08, 2005 07:37 AM (2Y6+9)
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greg,
your rumour mongering is EVIL.
"I can tell you unequivocally the reports are false. Israel, including our representatives in London, did not receive any prior notice of pending terror attacks," Mark Regev, senior spokesperson for Israel's Foreign Ministry, told WND. The only alert we received was a call to our British embassy immediately following the first explosion. That call was routine, and was also placed to other foreign embassies in London."
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45163
Posted by: Carlos at July 08, 2005 09:14 AM (8e/V4)
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Carlos,
The assertion that these bombings were perpetrated by Al Qaeda is baseless. One wonders if Al Qaeda even exists. At least, one with half a brain. It is just as likely that it was a Psyop intended to reestablish control over the proles who have grown restless with this war born of lies.
Now go be a good prole and love Big Brother. He is watching you.
Posted by: greg at July 08, 2005 09:41 AM (0gh4z)
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"It is just as likely that it was a Psyop intended to reestablish control over the proles who have grown restless with this war born of lies."
Yeah, it worked wonders in Spain. IT WORKS AGAINST BLAIR NOT FOR HIM.
Posted by: Carlos at July 08, 2005 09:45 AM (8e/V4)
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It's working on you and the rest of the ditto head crowd.
Posted by: greg at July 08, 2005 10:04 AM (0gh4z)
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Come on Carlos, say the truth, what would you choose if you had only one truly single choice?
A) to be protected against these attacks with more pressure on irak
B) to protest against Blair for them?
Mark with an X the selected option.
A starting at a 2 year old human child would choose A after waht we saw.
If some of the British were still doubtfull
about the Irak occupation, this attack would
truly push them to vengance.
It´s not that i´m in favour or against, but you have to consider this issue as also valid.
Life is a chess game, and if you like chess,
you know some decisions can drag the oponent
to have to lethaly choose.
In this case, the media is also phsychologically pushing it´s way through you showing people hurt
on the streets and the bus ripped apart.
Does not show the lives lost in Irak or Afghanistan by the occupation as even as the
pictures of the london attacks.
Thanks for your time.
Louis
Posted by: Louis at July 08, 2005 11:34 AM (WWEQ3)
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Yes, point being is: SINGLE CHOICE.
However, there is no "single choice" for the response to the attack, and I believe that the response will be towards domestic protection of citizens via immigration reviews, and raids on terrorist suspects.
When the IRA bombed the United Kingdom, the response wasn't a call for war with Ireland, it was to root out the terrorists from their safe havens and to up civilian awareness of attacks, and to ask civilians to report suspicious people, packages etc.
Posted by: dave at July 08, 2005 11:40 AM (fsJ2z)
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It simply seems like the army of propaganda in favour of this war is, they have been bad to us
as they have reach to WMD or Nuclear stuff,
which is true, but once again, who dropped th first nuclear bomb? Who helped saddam first and
supplied mustard gas for study and development?
Who started all this nuclear rage?
The same who are now critizizing and preventing others form reaching that sort of power,
So? What grants me that the countries that have
that power, will use it properly?
Something like a nuclear warhead has no "natural" use of..
In one word,
Everyone has to fear the countries that have nuclear power, and if another country wants it,
IT BECOMES A DANGER.
Yes, I agree, but why did all this shit had
to start in the first place?
Wanna war?
Blair in a boxing match against bin would be nice
and the one that losses, losses, that would be it.
No hunger or diseases to feel sorry for, no casualties.
Just a worlwide televised match between the
supporters of war, but that´s no bussiness to
big companies that make weapons.
So wars, invasions and shit like this must be
sponsored anonimously.
And that is only what I think.
I dont pretend you to agree.
Posted by: Louis at July 08, 2005 11:50 AM (WWEQ3)
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That is also true Dave,
Posted by: Louis at July 08, 2005 11:54 AM (WWEQ3)
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Unfortunately, due to all this, the damage is made to us normal people, like u and me, cant take no bus no more, or tube, gotta wach our backs and live our lives suspiciously, and that bothers me a lot.
The attacks are not in blair´s house or bin´s
tent as you can see, it´s the little war puppets
who die, and it can be any of my friends or relatives.
I hate this shit Dave, politicians are making us go through, and really don´t want islam to win or
anything similar to that because it can become hell itself,
But, applying your idea of security would be enough I think, and not INVADE directly.
They went to irak and found no WMD after searching for more than a year, so ?
have the army leave, thats it.
What are we waiting for?
You know there is another reason, and the world too.
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Louis,
I am sure you remember as do I, the political shift by the IRA to not only attack military targets in the U.K, but to take the "war" to the citizens via targetting citizens with bombs.
The whole shift was to sway the politicians by increasing pressure against the Government, believing that the U.K citizens would respond with fear and call for the removal of troops from Ireland. It didn't happen that way. The people of the U.K do not crumble in fear of terror, that has always been their way, it is commendable and an admirable trait. When you stop living your life, and bow to terror the terrorists have won.
I believe the terrorists will not "Win" against Britain with this bomb, just like they never win against Britain with bombs before.
Posted by: dave at July 08, 2005 12:23 PM (fsJ2z)
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1 1/2 oz vodka
3 oz tomato juice
1 dash lemon juice
1/2 tsp Worcestershire sauce
2 - 3 drops Tabasco® sauce
1 lime wedge
Shake all ingredients (except lime wedge) with ice and strain into an old-fashioned glass over ice cubes. Add salt and pepper to taste. Add the wedge of lime and serve.
Posted by: Homeland Security at July 08, 2005 12:58 PM (H1wS0)
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Nothing like a few bombings to make you feel like we are winning the "war on terror"...short of being a police state, anyone think of any bright ideas to keep things like this happening in NYC? I know many in here condemn Muslims, but I read a interesting poll lately that said most Muslims actually like Western values (which Bush says is opposite) but they in fact hate our policies and actions. Then again, I don't trust most media numbers and info. What I'm wondering is...if this happens again in the USA, how will Americans feel towards Bush? Will they rally behind him or feel betrayed that he has made monumentally stupid decisions with Afganistan and Iraq?
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Osama,
They will rally behind him and welcome Martial Law like good proles. Bush will become our dictator for life. Expect a staged terror attack. When it happens, I'm off to Italy to live for good. The large breasted girls here wear T-shirts that say, 'Make Love Not War'. It reminds me of the US in the 60's. I think Gore Vidal is on to something.
Posted by: greg at July 08, 2005 02:15 PM (nPBFW)
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Shiiiiiiiiit. Well, Greg...I'll probably end up in Portugal since my girlfriend is from there. In that case we'll have to resort to insulting each other's olive oil and discussing the fallout from future "Osama Bin Hamburgler" nuke attacks on NYC/Washington. Or maybe we'll just meet up halfway in France for some freedom fries and steak? Just don't smoke any of those Italian cigarettes over there or you'll end up sounding like one of those maligned movie preview voiceover guys who sound like a 90-year old guy butt-fucking an onion.
Posted by: osamabeenvotin' at July 08, 2005 03:40 PM (perrS)
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>>>"What I'm wondering is...if this happens again in the USA, how will Americans feel towards Bush?"
Was this a trick question? That's easy, the Libs will lose bowel control and soil their panties, and immediately demand that we give into all terrorist demands.
Conservatives, on the other hand, will simply be reminded that we are indeed engaged in a prolonged war on terror and strengthen their resolve.
The country as a whole will see how the Dems are nothing but big weenies and vote for another Republican when Bush steps down.
Posted by: Carlos at July 08, 2005 03:44 PM (8e/V4)
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butt-fucking an onion.
Osama,
I think there may be poetry in those words, but I'm not certain.
Posted by: greg at July 08, 2005 04:35 PM (xcNPe)
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Carlos...or it might go like this: The United States citizens will realize (as polls have been showing) that Bush is a colosal fuck-up and that through his actions he has created more terrorists, given them a new place to train and unified them to align against the USA. There's only so much quoting of John Wayne before you gotta deliver on the tough guy crap. Looks like Al Queda is smoking us outta caves or subway tunnels...not the other way around. I have the feeling you guys are so busy bitching about liberals that a terrorist could strap a bomb to your ass and set it off without you knowing before you could say "Durka durka!"
Greg, pass the petzels...
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It never ceases to amaze me that even in the light of the human suffering we have seen in London, we still end up with the pathetic, mealy mouthed sniping about politics. (and might I add, in very poor taste and grammar!)
I was taught that those who speak with perpetual vulgarity are showing what a limited vocabulary they have. I believe they were correct!
London, we cry with you. We will not forget what happened to your people in these senseless acts of brutality.
Bless you all!
We stand with you.
May the dogs, (whomever they are) the perpetrators of this deplorable act, find true justice.
Posted by: Mel in Texas at July 09, 2005 02:54 PM (bbxLM)
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"It never ceases to amaze me that even in the light of the human suffering we have seen in London, we still end up with the pathetic, mealy mouthed sniping about politics. (and might I add, in very poor taste and grammar!)"
Hey genius, maybe I should email you my posts to preview them before putting them up? Or would you'd rather wash my uncensored mouth out with your favorite brand of moralistic, preachy soap? If you weren't so *&@$#)* busy spamming the FCC every time someone says a naughty word, you'd realize the ugly truth: If you weren't so ignorant, you'd be able to look past what Jerry Falwell told you was acceptable language (between his blabbering to prostitutes) and listen to what people are saying in here regardless of the words your imaginary friend in the sky deemed as proper.
Oh yeah, as your new spelling and grammar helper, I've revised a few of your sentences:
"Iraq, we cry with you. We will not forget what happened to your people in these senseless acts of brutality. Bless you all! We stand with you."
Ah, that has a nicer ring of truth to it, no? How about...
"May the dogs in the White House, (all of them) the perpetrators of these deplorable acts in our world today, find true justice."
MUCH better!
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DOWNING STREET MEMO: You are a piece of shit!
Your mother is raghead trash.
Get the picture? Creep.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 09, 2005 11:16 PM (CBNGy)
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Greyrooster/Bablar - you are a scumbag of the highest order. You smell like a used condom found on the floor of a jail cell.
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DOWNING STREET MEMO: Your mother is a condom. For any camel/goat fucking Islamofacist that walks buy.
You are shit. Shit of the lowest order. A coward.
Death to all that take sides against America. You should hang for the treasonous actions. Maybe, some real Americans can fix it up.
You need to be on the internet. In the same situation as Nick Berg.
You lousy sinking son of a diseased goat herder.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 10, 2005 07:47 AM (CBNGy)
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Gayrooster...
You lick the schmegma cheese from your wife's gonorrhea infected cock while finger-banging your son's itchy weevil bitten rectum. The SPAM truck is comin' for you and your days are numbered. May Nick Berg's ghost head float around you, spitting blood on your pointy hood till Babler, inc. relocate you to a nice project. Homies await your flabby old rotted ass meat for target practice. There are no margaritas in hell...
Posted by: osamabinhamburgler at July 10, 2005 01:18 PM (perrS)
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I love you all.
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Sheik! How dare you come in here! I told you that your cell was only to infiltrate the unmentionable, unforgivable, unforgettable blog. I'll dock your virgins in the afterlife if you can't stay the course! Kaabah Laabbah Durkah Burkah!
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for those who are winding bloody crap so easily about those who commited this bloodshed as well about those who still kill innocent people (specially) i tell them that instead of throwing useless acusations, to find out why this happened (and why killing is still happening today). you might not ever concieve curing, let's say cancer, in you don't know why it happens, so why don't you also do the very same? read, gather information and compare the sources and perhaps a solution might arise. and something to consider: when someone declares war, is exposing the people he/she represents to danger, anguish and possible suffering. it is brainless to determine the battlefield "there" and not "here". otherwise is naive, stupid and/or cynic (between others).
Posted by: ignasi at July 11, 2005 08:06 AM (Iog3O)
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I can see all the Dickheads have started now.....Playtimes over now children
Posted by: Rodders at July 11, 2005 10:35 AM (KF1fi)
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Ref Carlos,on 7/7, 11.38 on this very thread. You have watched and witnessed for five days now. Our government is still there and so are our troops in Iraq. As I before stated, we British are not Spanish. Thankyou.
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K, you're a man's man for BLAIRing out your lovely support of a war misplaced. Now go molest yourself Gitmo style and get your teeth fixed.
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Ignasi: You would make a fine cowardly terrorist. Your thought processes are the same. You obviously do not understand what manhood means or is about.
Based on your ascertions we should be bombing hospitals, buses, public housing and such throughout the muslim world.
Doesn't matter how you fight or who you kill. Right.
You need a shot a testosterone. A great big shot.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 12, 2005 02:06 AM (CBNGy)
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Rodders: Please show examples of where the United States in openly racist. I am in total disagreement with you. Hope you can show some REAL examples and not some silly shit from 100 years ago.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 12, 2005 02:20 AM (CBNGy)
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Louis: You seem to be wrapped up in this Africa black man thing. We to have seen television programs showing black African children suffering from poverty and starvation. Heart go out to any suffering child.
QUESTION: If America gave 100 Billion dollars in medical and food tomorrow how many more hungry children would we see in twenty years?
Ah! Not so simple is it. When you have a people that continue to have child after child knowing they offer them nothing but suffering what can we do. They are not going to stop fornicating. The more we feed them the healthier they become and they have more and more children.
You have a solution? The parents of these children obviously don't care what happens to them. Are you saying it is my responsibility? I had enough sense only have what I could properly care for. Sometimes reality must take over. Reality is that the African nations must mature on their own. We can send them rubbers and hamburgers. However, the truth is they will throw out the rubbers and eat the hamburgers and have more children.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 12, 2005 02:44 AM (CBNGy)
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greyrooster
if you don't want to understand the reason why, then you are equal to those who have blasted london. you think you are right just as they probably think they are. your unwillingness to even consider that not everybody should think the same is what feeds terror because you promote terror on your side. and by the way, you are ALREADY bombing hospitals, buses, housing and such throughout the muslim and not muslim world. if you are blind to this (willing or unwillingly), just put your arse in gear and come to know that the very fact that these atrocities are not in the headlines (and not even comented throughout mainstream newspapers) does not lesser its status.
you have the very right to ignore them, but that doesn not make them dissapear.
Posted by: ignasi at July 13, 2005 06:02 AM (Iog3O)
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I'm a Muslim and Islam always teaches how to be obedient to God and to respect all people irrespective of their beliefs. However even a nice mongrel if it is provoked and pushed against a wall will bite back. The madrassah in Pakistan teaches young kids to learn the religion and many as young as 12 years old can recite the whole Koran by heart. 9/11 is a result of American greediness plundering Arab's resources and supporting the most cruel regime in the world. Afghanistan and Iraq are just rubbing salt to the wound. As long as the majority still stupid enough to listen to all the lies - 'hate our freedom', WMD, Muslim terrorists, and other rhetorics-you will suffer from the fear of similar incidents. You have lost some of your freedoms. Some businesses have been affected. Mideast tourists are now coming to Kuala Lumpur in Malaysia. The business is booming - thanks to bush/blair/sharon. Those affected directly/indirectly in the UK, you know who to sue.
Posted by: Muhammad Alwi at July 21, 2005 10:15 PM (fkGtV)
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Guys! You've started your own little war with your opposing opinions! Everyone has different perspectives, best you can do is agree to differ. You see that's my perspective. Now you can argue and say no we should express our opinions and convince others to adhere to these but then I'll be expecting that.
I'm just writing an essay on the opposing perspectives on the London bombings so I read your comments. Very interesting but yea then you started insulting each other which prompted me to comment.
Posted by: Hol at August 28, 2005 05:20 AM (Jnqcf)
July 06, 2005
Where's Waldo
In case you're wondering, I'm going out of town to the annual pimp convention. I turn the blog key over to whoever the hell wants it. See y'all on Monday.
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you owe me money...
Posted by: TC-LeatherPenguin at July 06, 2005 01:25 PM (kiH79)
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LeatherPenguin Cumb-a-achumb:
Let's have a happy...
and screw the NY Times'a bitch!
FALL, ON YOUR KNEES!
Posted by: TC-LeatherPenguin at July 06, 2005 02:32 PM (kiH79)
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That's THIS weekend? Woo-hoo! 100% profits for me!!
Posted by: Feisty at July 06, 2005 03:15 PM (QBrm4)
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see ya there Rusty. I better not see you mackin on those nasty hoes...keep it clean!
Posted by: tlongren at July 06, 2005 04:28 PM (t+GZI)
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Waldo is on St Hwy 57 in the middle of Sheboygan County. Check the map.
Posted by: triticale at July 06, 2005 04:45 PM (NC6B5)
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What's this year's theme? I bet it's "Bitch betta' have my money..."
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 06, 2005 05:05 PM (0yYS2)
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Didnt' you say you were taking time off to go to this last month?
Posted by: tee bee at July 07, 2005 10:07 AM (q1JHF)
On behalf of the 'Anonymous Blogger Community'...
....can I be the first to tell the Washington Post to get bent? Oh, wait, it looks like John Hawkins did that for me. And for newer readers, yes, 'Rusty Shackleford' is not my real name. In real life I'm a 23 year old single-mother struggling through law school and supplementing her meager income by dancing at genlemen's clubs and making guest appearences on softcore porn produced for Cinemax. 'Bluto' also has commentary...
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Thank God! My fantasies are true!
Posted by: Editor at July 06, 2005 01:09 PM (adpJH)
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btw, I thought maybe you would be posing as an "orphaned Ethiopian baby girl".
Posted by: Editor at July 06, 2005 01:19 PM (adpJH)
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What's wrong with 23 old single mothers? I love them.
Posted by: Werner at July 06, 2005 01:36 PM (nXVJN)
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Cowardly huh.?? Well I've been getting just a small taste of what Rusty gets. I can only imagine how he must feel. Like a big fat target I would imagine. Not sure if I'm brave or just stupid or a bit of both. For sure the man/??? has iron balls anonymous or not. Wait wait pant pant pant pant, ahh. Panic attack over. Ok back to it.
Posted by: Howie at July 06, 2005 02:23 PM (D3+20)
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I knew it. You ARE the "Witty Sex Kitten!"
Posted by: j.d. at July 06, 2005 02:39 PM (9/aPS)
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I'm actually a prisoner at GTMO. Mihouldin Hirbehgboodi is my actual name. I was an officer in Saddam's Navy. Remember that Osa I always in drydock at Um Qasr? Yep. That was mine.
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Although I have small boobies and I can drive an 18 wheeler, I'm really a girl too.
Posted by: Oyster at July 06, 2005 08:53 PM (YudAC)
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Ah so Ethiopian orphans are the latest fashion accessory trend this year? I remember a few years ago it was crack babies, but apparently they tend to be dangerous and hard to house-break.
There's nothing like being so rich and famous that you can go on a Hollywood Celebrity Misery Tourism Shopping Spree and buy a designer ethnic child of the poverty stricken indigenous people of wherever to show the world how sensitive you are to their plight, and still make it back to the hotel for cocktails before the vultures make their daily rounds.
Don't these morons get it? Don't they know that we see through their act? Don't they realize that we know them for the vain, self-centered, egotistical, false, shallow, plastic, out-of-touch, pretentious, (feel free to cast your own perfectly true and applicable aspersions here), effite, elitist fops that they are?
They wanna help? Fine, let them beat down the doors of the UN to demand progress toward liberty and democracy across Africa. Let them spend their own money to hire people to teach Africans about such concepts as republicanism and constitutional democracy. Let them speak of Life, Liberty, and Pursuit of Happiness. Let them shout "Liberty and Justice for All!" from the rooftops.
But that isn't what they want. They just want some face time with the camera so that they can pretend they are relevant. They are actors, which means that they are always acting. They are worse than irrelevant, they are part of the problem.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 07, 2005 02:48 PM (0yYS2)
July 05, 2005
Rosenburg Grandaughter Defends Terrorists
The granddaughter of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg is now calling for the release of prisoners at Guantanamo Bay. Ironical.
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You stupid bitch, haven't you Rosenberg's done enough damage?
Posted by: Carlos at July 05, 2005 12:07 PM (8e/V4)
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MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT IT: the Left and neojihadism are allies.
Posted by: reliapundit at July 05, 2005 12:46 PM (dUpW1)
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ZZzzzzzzzZZZZZaaaaaap! Juliue And Ethel backed in the Chair for a good reason. Their degenerate POS daughter should get some voltage too. ZZZZZAaaaaaaaaP!!! KAPOOWWWWW!!!
Posted by: Filthy Allah at July 05, 2005 03:22 PM (yBHNA)
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Nothing ironic about it. Apples and trees and all that.
Posted by: Brian B at July 05, 2005 05:24 PM (CouWh)
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These idiots are going to get what they have coming one day. All of them.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 06, 2005 07:54 PM (0yYS2)
Chirac Insults Everybody
It was giggles and belly laughs as French President Jacques Chirac entertained his dinner companions, German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder and Russian President Vladimir Putin, with insults directed toward the British. Yuck-yuck! Unfortunately, their private conversation was recorded by a journalist and published.
From the UK Telegraph:
Anglo-French tensions heightened last night after Jacques Chirac delivered a series of insults to Britain as London and Paris fought to secure the 2012 Olympic Games and faced fresh disagreement at the G8 summit.They must be rolling on the floor on Downing Street. Old Jacques wasn't through, though.The president, chatting to the German and Russian leaders in a Russian cafe, said: "The only thing [the British] have ever given European farming is mad cow." Then, like generations of French people before him, he also poked fun at British cuisine.
"You can't trust people who cook as badly as that," he said. "After Finland, it's the country with the worst food."What did the Finnish do to old Jacques? Would it be appropriate to suggest that he pretty much hates anything that's not French? But wait, there's more.
"But what about hamburgers?" said Vladimir Putin, the Russian president, referring to America.My gut hurts. Jacques, you're killing me. France opposes NATO because you were asked to try haggis. Hey, don't give this guy any Rocky Mountain Oysters. He'll start a war."Oh no, hamburgers are nothing in comparison," Mr Chirac said.
Mr Putin and Gerhard Schroeder, the German chancellor, laughed. Mr Chirac then recalled how George Robertson, the former Nato secretary general and a former defence secretary in Tony Blair's Cabinet, had once made him try an "unappetising" Scottish dish, apparently meaning haggis.
"That's where our problems with Nato come from," he said.
Mr Schroeder and Mr Putin laughed again.
The fact that Chirac jokes about NATO by making a correlation between foreign policy and the lunch menu provides some explanation why even Chirac's own people are less and less fond of him. If I were French, I'd be embarrassed by Chirac's statements and then I'd emigrate.
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Saw an interview from 1994? with Sandra Day O'Connor on Booknotes/C-span. She grew up on a cattle ranch in Arizona. She said that if you coat mountain oysters in bread crumbs and fry them they are quite tasty. Wonder if Jacque would approve?
Posted by: jack at July 05, 2005 09:22 AM (B54dL)
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I noticed that no other news agency is touching this.
Replace "Chirac" with "Bush". Wonder if it'd get picked up then?
Posted by: j.d. at July 05, 2005 09:28 AM (9/aPS)
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LMAO! To be perfectly honest, I thought that was pretty funny! Notice how Putin then attempts to bait him even further by asking him "what about hamburgers?" But Chirac is too kind goes after haggis instead.
Posted by: Carlos at July 05, 2005 09:37 AM (8e/V4)
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Come on...you gotta have a sense of humor. Anyone who doesn't find this funny needs to lighten up! I mean he didn't even touch on English people's crooked yellow teeth, or that common fetal alcohol syndrome look our fish and chips crowd have. You know what? English food DOES suck!! I've been there and will confirm this! French food is amazing on the other hand, so there is some truth in the joke after all. Plus, everyone picks on the French. They are the source of most of our common jokes, so who cares if Chirac thumbs his quiche covered nose at a bunch of pasty limeys eating deep fried crap out of recycled newspaper. Good for him!
Posted by: osamabeenhiding at July 05, 2005 11:24 AM (klOV8)
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osama: try keeping up with the times, selling fish & chips wrapped in newspaper is not allowed. because of health laws.
unlike America the U.K tends to care more about health & hygiene in food.
Most places may use clean paper with "fake" newsprint for that authentic feel.
Posted by: dave at July 05, 2005 11:31 AM (fsJ2z)
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I agree, Osama. (And hamburgers are German, no?)
I say it's a tiny flash of healthy nationalism of sorts. No big deal.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 05, 2005 11:34 AM (x+5JB)
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Like SNAILS,/i> are God's gift to gastronomy? And force-feeding a damn duck until it's liver explodes is haute-elegant? Pleeze, try the cheeze - it smells like ze cow's renal fluidz. Coq-au-van is nothing more than stewed chicken, not even bar-b-que - sheesh.
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FYI- the Finish quip arrises from Italy's Berlesconi (sp?). He got in trouble a few weeks ago saying that the Finish have the worst food in Europe, after he tried some venison or something. So there he is bringing up an issue in the form of a joke that he knew got another head of stae in trouble- nitwit.
Posted by: Max at July 05, 2005 12:25 PM (HFKAk)
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Man, I can't believe anyone would defend English food!
Dave...when I had it it was in real newspaper and I wanted to gag, but not after I realized if I kept chewing I'd have a instant heart attack.
YBP: Healthy indeed.
Keith: Dude, if you're going to pick on the methods of French food preparation, get your ass to a local slaughterhouse. Or better yet, visit a fucking chicken farm and see how nice the USA is to our food sources. A little Monsanto can go a long way as well...so keep drinking your laced milk. If you're going to say a hot-dog isn't gross compared to Escargot, maybe you prefer eating pig lips and assholes? I'm also not saying ALL French food is good...but most of it is amazing. Don't choke on your "freedom fries" and expand your cuisine a bit. There are plenty of amazing foods out there, regardless of your politics or faux-PETA stance...
Posted by: osamabeenvotin' at July 05, 2005 12:53 PM (klOV8)
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Actually, I've heard most conservative Republicans should stay away from pretzels...can anyone confirm this? 
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As someone whom possesses several British H&H certificates myself, I get more nervous being in an American fast food resturant than I would eating in Britain. Here is a list of things that are enforced in the U.K that are not here:
1. complete ban of wooden cutting blocks, and preparation equipment with wooden handles (germs)
2. Color coordinated knives and cutting boards to stop cross contamination of food, White = Diary, Yellow = Cooked Meat, Red = Raw Meat, Blue = Fish, Green = Vegatables. (my vegetarian friend was at a Subway, when they cut his sub with the same knife as one they used for cutting meat which defeats the purpose)
3. All people preparing food must wear hair nets, and a hat and also a clean apron (prefably disposable) people serving food wear disposable gloves, all food handlers must pass at least Basic H&H exam.
4. code enforcement on exposed pipes (condensation drips dirt) cracked floor/wall tiles (breeds germs), metallic cutting surfaces etc.
5. Vegetables and food goods stored at least 6" off the floor on raised platforms.
I wish they would enact some of that into Law here, just looking at the food prep areas through a fast food resturant window here is enough for me to stop and buy bismuth just in case!
Posted by: dave at July 05, 2005 01:21 PM (fsJ2z)
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Sorry I blew my italics; To make coq au vin you start with a miripoix, that's carrots celery and onion, with a boquet garni once those have wilted. Normally you use a capon, that's French for an old rooster - they're tough thus the long cooking time and the half bottle of wine (or more) as a tenderizer. I know how to cook French food, and Italian, and Indian - And I have eaten escargot - you should try my osso bucco or shrimp curry. The French are simply not immune from food-choice criticism. Some hotdogs, if you know which ones to choose, are made entirely from beef brisket - not a collection if lips and other parts - US food preparation and production has come quite a ways since the writings of life-long Socialist Party cadre Upton Sincalir.
Posted by: -keith in mtn. view at July 05, 2005 03:35 PM (hgd/M)
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hey now, ive been to England, for 2 weeks on my honeymoon and i and my wife enjoyed the English food we had there....yes, we did have some other ethnic food as well such as Italian and American but most of the food we did have was of English origin....French food???...ive had it and i wasnt impressed one fucking bit...the French have only that and wine going for them????...thats why these assholes are so high and mighty???...please...far as im concerned, Italian food is much better than something French covered in so much sauce, i havent a clue what it even is...no thanks.....Chirac needs to get a new personality instead ofd being such a rude asshole all the time...acts like he has a broomstick stuck up his ass.....and being that the French are the least liked people in Europe, i wonder how the French people feel about their tightass brave leader, who constantly makes them all{ the French people} look so bad
Posted by: THANOS35 at July 05, 2005 03:43 PM (efQfG)
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Give me toast over croissants any day...French food is about as solid and wholesome as their military history. All talk and no bottle.
Posted by: Jester at July 05, 2005 05:19 PM (QKZX5)
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Croissants originated in Austria, to celebrate victory over the Ottoman Turks, who had beseiged Vienna.
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Hahaha:
"i wonder how the French people feel about their tightass brave leader, who constantly makes them all{ the French people} look so bad"
THANO, replace the word "French" with "American"!
Posted by: osamabeenvotin' at July 05, 2005 07:34 PM (fLj+Q)
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Croissants originated in Austria, to celebrate victory over the Ottoman Turks, who had beseiged Vienna.
Well I never knew that. Seems like the French can't even take credit for the staple of their breakfast table. I do admire their arrogance though..fancy thinking French is a more significant language than English for example.
Posted by: Jester at July 05, 2005 08:45 PM (QKZX5)
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I predict "Old Europe" will be at war with each other again before too long. Hope the French and Germans have a trained military before that happens.
Posted by: opine6 at July 06, 2005 05:31 AM (YyWmH)
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Rocky Mountain oysters, eh? Ah, my cousins give so freely of their lives for the pleasure of others.
The French have created some of the best sauces in the world, but they were originally created simply to cover the taste of the rancid meat they were eating in the days before refrigeration. Likewise their perfume. It was invented to cover their body odor. Only problem is - there have always been baths.
Posted by: Oyster at July 06, 2005 07:19 AM (YudAC)
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Jacques has a distressingly good point. I'm a brit, and I don't like our food much either. 'Cept for fish'n'chips, which (when properly done) are the most gorgeous thing on earth.
Posted by: James A. at July 06, 2005 10:02 AM (U4bBP)
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Say what you will about the English, Monsieur Jacques, but....
"London was awarded the 2012 Olympics on Wednesday, defeating European rival Paris in the final round of voting to bring the games to the British capital for the first time since 1948."
(www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1120616707566)
NO OLYMIPICS FOR YOU!!! ...you sophisticated raciste perdant, you!.
Maybe you can get Jacques Kerry to console you by massaging votre joues endolories de bout. After all, what ARE friends for, eh?
Posted by: coup-de-pied dans le pantalon at July 06, 2005 12:51 PM (2vX1h)
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Say what you will about the English, Monsieur Jacques, but....
"London was awarded the 2012 Olympics on Wednesday, defeating European rival Paris in the final round of voting to bring the games to the British capital for the first time since 1948."
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1120616707566
NO OLYMIPICS FOR YOU!!! ...you sophisticated raciste perdant, you!.
Maybe you can get Jacques Kerry to console you by massaging votre joues endolories de bout. After all, what ARE friends for, eh?
Posted by: coup-de-pied dans le pantalon at July 06, 2005 12:59 PM (o5z2M)
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Say what you will about the English, Monsieur Jacques, but....
"London was awarded the 2012 Olympics on Wednesday, defeating European rival Paris in the final round of voting to bring the games to the British capital for the first time since 1948."
(www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1120616707566)
ON OLYMIPICS FOR YOU, you sophisticated racist looser!.
Posted by: coup-de-pied dans le pantalon at July 06, 2005 12:59 PM (o5z2M)
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OOPS!
Sorry for repeats.
Kept getting odd error msgs., (saying things were wrong, when they apparently weren't) indicating post not accepted.
I'll only hit button once from now on, really.
Posted by: embarassed at July 06, 2005 01:03 PM (o5z2M)
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Hey Finn, if youÂ’re out there, check this out;
"You can't trust people who cook as badly as that," he said. "After Finland, it's the country with the worst food."Â…Chirac
What the heck do you guys eat in Finland anyway? Is it really just venison, eel and herring every day?
Posted by: Brad at July 06, 2005 01:39 PM (3OPZt)
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Finn's busy "fishing, drinking and working his "summer job"" so he can afford some French food.
Posted by: Oyster at July 06, 2005 07:46 PM (YudAC)
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Wait till he goes into the Army. If food in Finland is the worst in Europe, Finnish MREÂ’s must really suck.
Posted by: Brad at July 07, 2005 01:16 PM (3OPZt)
July 04, 2005
The Nightly News with Ron Burgendy and Brian Williams
The problem, Brian, is not that you equated our Founding Father's with terrorists, it is that you equated terrorists with our Founding Fathers. The first is disgustingly stupid, the second is stupidly disgusting. The fact that you can't see what the distinction is and think we're just not getting your point reveals you have the intellect of a third grader. In the future, please refrain from saying anything not on the cue cards. That's what you're paid for.
While I insist that a re-reading of my question will prove that in no way was I calling the framers "terrorists" (for starters, the word did not exist 229 years ago), I regret that anyone thought that after a life spent reading and loving American history, I had suddenly changed my mind about the founders of our nation.
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Where is every one today? You'd think it was,like, a holiday or something...
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at July 04, 2005 04:49 PM (JQjhA)
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We should all be thankful for people like Howard Dean, Brian Williams, Dick Durbin, etc. for pointing out to us just how incredibly stupid we are when we don't agree with them.
/sarcasm
Posted by: BorgQueen at July 04, 2005 05:28 PM (AxlwF)
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Honestly, it goes beyond disagreeing with them-- these people are just plain stupid.
Posted by: Carlos at July 04, 2005 05:38 PM (8e/V4)
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Why didn't he go with the standard MO that he was taken out of "context." I am so sick of these fill in the blank. I guess the good thing is at least we know where they stand? So much for the NASCAR, blue collar, apple pie image he was going for. Just like Little Russ he is just a moral relativist, left winger at heart. In the words of Kos screw him!
Posted by: bags75 at July 04, 2005 08:33 PM (leItU)
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Hold your horses, guys! Brian hasn't figured out yet that the good old days for legacy media are over. He still thinks he can say just about anything he wants to without there being any repercussions.
He forgot about Eason Jordan, Dickie Durbin, Ward Churchill, and all his other buddies who also found out the hard way that the good ole days are over. OVER!!!!!!!
Now the average citizen can find out about almost everything on the internet. Thank you, Al Gore! For the internet! Oh, crap, he got in trouble, too, for lying. Is everything bad that happened in the past going to come back good? Heh!
Posted by: jihad in the west at July 04, 2005 10:34 PM (DDXXI)
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After gunning down and torching another wasp's nest, I wondered maybe I was being a bit of a meany. Brian Williams didn't say anything bad - I actually used an encyclopedia and found that America's rebellion was illegal, and in the eyes of the British, treason! In their eyes, July 4 is a day of treason!
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 05, 2005 05:49 AM (ScqM8)
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BUSH LIES - you listen up punk and you listen good. I know you slimy bastard are out there reading this in your desert hideaway. You are a maggot-minded no good, lying poser. You're reading this.. I know it. I can smell the old rancid socks lying on your kitchen table. I'm MADDER THAN HELL - SHOW YOURSELF!!!!!!
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 05, 2005 07:14 AM (ScqM8)
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First off, I hope you all had a wonderful holiday and hope it was spent with loved ones.
Secondly, I'm worried about DSM. He seems obssessed with BL-SD. Someone get him a valium.
Thirdly, if "terror" were a word back in the revolutionary days, then I'm pretty sure that "terrorist" was. That was really dumb.
Fourth, if Brian williams reports news, then after this tourette's syndrome-like outburst, I'm inclined to believe he probably doesn't watch the news or he wouldn't be surprised at the backlash.
Posted by: Oyster at July 05, 2005 07:24 AM (YudAC)
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Downing Street:
What he said was stupid. The moral equivalence he imputed is repugnant. The people he referred to would not dream of conducting themselves in the manner of whoever that Iranian terrorist is.
The British would hardly feel the same about the colonists, either. Revolutionaries the colonists were, but certainly not terrorists. That had to wait for the French Revolution.
I am quite sure the British considered the French revolutionaries terrorists, as that is what they were. The Americans were never thought of in that way, because the colonists were not trying to eliminate the social order, as the French were.
Posted by: jihad in the west at July 05, 2005 11:42 AM (DDXXI)
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No comparison.
Posted by: Jonathan at July 05, 2005 12:38 PM (M7kiy)
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Rusty ... your trackbacks is malfunctioning ...
I was going to trackback a relevant post of mine from a few days ago ...
: /
Posted by: Jonathan at July 05, 2005 12:43 PM (M7kiy)
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Jonathan,
Yeah, sorry. Probably will be out all day!
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at July 05, 2005 01:32 PM (JQjhA)
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I like how he, like Dickless Durbin, is sorry not for the monumentally idiotic things he said, but that we might have been offended by them. It's like telling someone you're sorry that their mother is a whore. These talking heads should all be chopped off and mounted on pikes.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 06, 2005 07:53 PM (0yYS2)
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http://jmrtechservices.com/wwwboard/messages/1331.html currentmontgomerypause
Posted by: cigar at September 07, 2005 02:19 AM (iBgIV)
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http://milkinghoney.com/wwwboard/messages/1937.html iwasshoespilling
Posted by: slowing at September 26, 2005 06:27 PM (eNfqN)
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http://my.homewithgod.com/runo/bizar/626947/zoophile.html http://my.homewithgod.com/runo/ogay/dk664/anal.html http://my.homewithgod.com/runo/igirl/omjfzvlcsa/index.html destroyinggreetednod
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http://my.homewithgod.com/runo/bizar/626947/zoophile.html http://my.homewithgod.com/runo/ogay/dk664/anal.html http://my.homewithgod.com/runo/igirl/omjfzvlcsa/index.html destroyinggreetednod
Posted by: genuine at June 25, 2006 09:39 PM (x2XJI)
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http://my.homewithgod.com/runo/bizar/626947/zoophile.html http://my.homewithgod.com/runo/ogay/dk664/anal.html http://my.homewithgod.com/runo/igirl/omjfzvlcsa/index.html destroyinggreetednod
Posted by: genuine at June 25, 2006 09:41 PM (o5L7W)
Caption Contest Wieners: A fatwa on your house!
Brad: Ward Churchill’s girlfriend sits in the bedroom waiting to FRAG her lover when he gets home after finding out he was “CHIMPIN” another CU co-ed.
Carin: And I thought it took a while to get used to the "string in my ass" sensation.
William Teach: Conservative Dating. Meet the Red State girl of your dreams.
And for using super-insider blogger references, special mention goes to CCW Bass:
I discovered that while it was great for keeping whispy liberal boys at bay, Frank J. has suddenly begun stalking me.
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WOW! Thanks Rusty,
On the 4th of July I win the contest by taking a swipe at a traitor.
What a great country we live in.
ItÂ’s just too bad that due to the content, I canÂ’t show off my victory to the wife and kids.
Oh well, happy Independence Day everyone.
BTW....Is a fatwa on my house a good thing?
Posted by: Brad at July 04, 2005 11:10 AM (pO1tP)
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...and no picture of the blunderbustier that goes with it?
Posted by: Rodney Dill at July 04, 2005 12:21 PM (tGTSA)
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Hoooooly Smokes! Now THAT is one nice piece of hardware!
Posted by: Dr. Zubov at July 04, 2005 07:34 PM (lLExy)
July 01, 2005
Insert Fatwa -->HERE<-- (Do it yourself Festival of the Fatwas)
The following infidels, Zionist monkeys, and Crusador pigs get a fatwa for celebrating the Great Satan's anniversary! Click on the links below for blasphemy, heresy, and lies! Want to participate? Just link any of your most fatwa worthy posts to this post and send us a trackback. A fatwa will be issued below.
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I issue a fatwa on: http://satp.blogspot.com/2003/08/story-media-covered-up.html
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 01, 2005 05:52 PM (ScqM8)
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Then, I use the Washington Monument to symbolically flip off the White House liars, the fattest porkmongers of Congress and the Rummy Gang. Then I'm going wasp nest hunting!
Improbulus - you need medication, young man.
Osama binX - may the sounds of caterwauling keep you up at night.
Defense Guy - you still haven't pissed me off yet.
BUSH LIES - you're a punk, desert-dweller who poses with cactuses.
Thanos35 - help is on the way...
Babblar - you can run, but you can't hide.
Bradley - stay away from Rooster.
Rooster - may you use your tongue to clean the exhaust soot off the walls of the lincoln tunnel.
Jihadis - your days are numbered, punks!
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 01, 2005 06:08 PM (ScqM8)
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Blasphemy, heresy, and lies?! Wow, lemme see which of my relevant posts I should post....Well...I could post ALL of them, but....
Posted by: Feisty at July 01, 2005 08:40 PM (QBrm4)
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Osama may have to issue a fatwha on DSM for molesting his pet sheep again. Kaffir you were warned about neglecting your duties at the madrassa by attending the NAMBLA meetings. Your vile and filthy habits are of no concern to the holy warriors so long as you spread Osama message. So leave my sheep alone kaffir and get back to spreading lies, I mean the word of Allah.
Yes and prepare the next bomb for the kindergarden oh wretched offspring of a cross between Hildabeast and a goat.
Posted by: Osama at July 03, 2005 05:45 AM (DT110)
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Osama, you are like the one wasp that tried to get away from the nest I shot down last week.
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 04, 2005 06:09 AM (ScqM8)
Caption Contest
Caption the above photo, get a fatwa!
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What about the original caption first? Then we can go from there... 
That must be an Israeli girl... 
That must be an Israeli girl...
Posted by: Ariya at July 01, 2005 02:43 PM (IXXEm)
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Edward Klein releases a photo from his recent book, "The Truth About Hillary" he says is proof of two of his assertions: That Sen. Clinton was deeply involved with lesbos (Code Pink) and Vince Foster.
(Editor's note: Hillary Clinton involved with lesbos should not be constrewed not "good gay".)
Posted by: Editor at July 01, 2005 02:53 PM (adpJH)
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golldang it! I screwed that one up...
amend:
...Klein explained the lack of a face shot was to "hide his source".
And "constrewed"[sic; correct: construed] was to be "conscrewed", you know, for a play on words.
Is it Friday yet?
Posted by: Editor at July 01, 2005 02:57 PM (adpJH)
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Victoria's Secret Wants You!!
Posted by: Bubbe at July 01, 2005 02:57 PM (cbAi4)
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Ward Churchill’s girlfriend sits in the bedroom waiting to FRAG her lover when he gets home after finding out he was “CHIMPIN” another CU co-ed.
Posted by: Brad at July 01, 2005 02:58 PM (3OPZt)
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"If you think you're getting in here, guess again"
Posted by: Jonathan at July 01, 2005 03:03 PM (wdVtc)
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"Hipless 13-yeal old girl in big sister's thong plays with dad's gun."
Posted by: Carlos at July 01, 2005 03:12 PM (8e/V4)
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Nice!
The G in G-String stands for GLOCK.
Posted by: SayUncle at July 01, 2005 03:14 PM (CDrd/)
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Is that a gun in your thong or...no, that's pretty clearly a gun in your thong.
Posted by: Eric J at July 01, 2005 03:16 PM (hrQvk)
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Is that a gun in your pants or are you just happy to see me.
Posted by: Carlos at July 01, 2005 03:17 PM (8e/V4)
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sorry Eric, I guess you beat me to it.
Posted by: Carlos at July 01, 2005 03:18 PM (8e/V4)
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I'm going to blow your head off, but not before I fuck your brains out.
Posted by: Carlos at July 01, 2005 03:19 PM (8e/V4)
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Power X2
Posted by: Darth Redneck at July 01, 2005 03:20 PM (PX+vn)
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Basic Instinct II: No More Wussy-Ass Icepicks!
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at July 01, 2005 03:26 PM (JQjhA)
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"Howie just wait till you get home you SOB. I called your desk 12 times already, Where hell are you at. And turn that cell phone back on you bastard I have not run up the phone bill enough yet.
This usually occurs right after the last 4 calls when she did reach me. You think terrorists are scary.
Posted by: Howie at July 01, 2005 03:37 PM (D3+20)
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[1] "Penis envy" is now officially an outdated concept.
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[2] "I discovered that while it was great for keeping whispy liberal boys at bay, Frank J. has suddenly begun stalking me."
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[3] "Speak for yourselves, girls (especially you, Jane.)"
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Plink in the pink. (apologies to all an sundry for this one)
Posted by: ccwbass at July 01, 2005 03:40 PM (wVtIP)
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"Why do they hate us? Is it because we're murderous whores?" Thank YEEEEEW!
Posted by: sst at July 01, 2005 03:41 PM (zBFNs)
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And I thought it took a while to get used to the "string in my ass" sensation.
Posted by: carin at July 01, 2005 03:44 PM (3OUyp)
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LMAO! carin.
Posted by: Carlos at July 01, 2005 03:47 PM (8e/V4)
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Katie Holmes prepares to surprise her fiance, Tom Cruise, with some suggestions for her character in the upcoming film, MI3: Hubbard Comes In From The Cold.
Posted by: tee bee at July 01, 2005 04:13 PM (q1JHF)
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The worst part is getting a wedgie when I draw my gun. I gotta get a new holster...
Posted by: Gekkobear at July 01, 2005 04:14 PM (XWr9N)
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"I have a gub."
or
Happiness is a warm gun
Happiness is a warm gun
When I hold you in my arms
And I feel my finger on your trigger
I know no one can do me no harm
Because happiness is a warm gun
-Yes it is.
Posted by: Aaron's cc: at July 01, 2005 04:34 PM (ov6Vw)
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Daddy wanted to get us Uzis but couldn't find a concealed carry holster!
Posted by: Dan Melson at July 01, 2005 04:35 PM (8GGdx)
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"Take the Safety Off - Dial 976-GUNGIRLS"
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Find Her Silencer - Win a $25 Gift Certificate
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Calvin Klein Announces:
Brooke Shields - Reloaded
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Does This Handgun Make Me Look Fat?
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Posted by: BumperStickerist at July 01, 2005 04:48 PM (ZmivM)
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Shot in the ass and you're to blame...
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 01, 2005 04:53 PM (ScqM8)
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Stretching the boundaries of "concealed" carry....
Posted by: Russ at July 01, 2005 05:19 PM (zShs1)
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The question is, “What’s more annoying, the barrel against your cheek, or the lace in your crack”?
Posted by: Cindy at July 01, 2005 06:22 PM (48zd8)
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buy now and save 50%--the glock strap.
Posted by: shawn at July 01, 2005 07:23 PM (kuSz0)
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Ortho-Nova is marketing a new patch to the Second Ammendment Sisters.
______
Paris Hilton is ready the next time someone tries to steal her Blackberry.
[OK, guys: tell me we haven't seen enough of Miss Hilton to know that's her non-existent derriere and almost non-existent undies!]
Posted by: Quid at July 01, 2005 07:46 PM (72bu2)
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Conservative Dating. Meet the Red State girl of your dreams.
Posted by: William Teach at July 01, 2005 08:33 PM (HxpPK)
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Feisty was glad to find a thong that matched her sweater and a gun that matched her pants so she could BANG! BANG! BANG! in utter style.
Posted by: Feisty at July 01, 2005 08:46 PM (QBrm4)
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Do You really think you can handle this?
Posted by: Justin at July 01, 2005 09:30 PM (J7x9I)
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This is why WE are going to lose you stupid FUCKS.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,15797327%5E1702,00.html
Assholes.
No seriously, close your open browswer windows replete with porn, pull your pants back up, wipe the smirk off your face, and understand this at a fundamental level: WE are going to lose in Iraq at the current pace because the current climate of assholedom that you promote and/or subscribe to. And yes, I coined a term there. You're welcome... fuckstick.
Posted by: sst at July 02, 2005 12:08 AM (7VUbD)
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Taking "pop a cap in your ass" to a whole new level.
Posted by: Will Franklin at July 02, 2005 12:31 AM (mXBZN)
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Filing system for the anally retentive.
Posted by: greg at July 02, 2005 12:54 AM (3D/yw)
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Don't even think about picking my weggie.
Nothing gets between my calbins, except my automatic.
sugar and spice and everything ammo.
does my ass look big?
Posted by: Cav at July 02, 2005 02:21 AM (QGpLt)
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Do it yourself tattoos. Inquire within.
Posted by: Chris Short at July 02, 2005 03:02 AM (0OCQY)
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‘xcuse me while I whip this out.
Posted by: phin at July 02, 2005 06:40 AM (DGPlf)
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The newest Victoria's Secrets addition - "The Thongat Line"
For those romantic evenings on the range, in the hood, or the trailer park.
Posted by: greg at July 02, 2005 08:15 AM (PXESm)
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I didn't make the 8:15 post. Someone is impersonating me.
Posted by: greg at July 02, 2005 08:22 AM (3D/yw)
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" Go ahead, make my day !"
Posted by: Michael Marler at July 02, 2005 09:27 AM (M7kiy)
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If I get more more crack about my thong... I'll murderize ya!
Does this thong clash with my Glock?
Nice Glock! Thanks, I had it field stripped just for you.
Posted by: lawhawk at July 02, 2005 09:32 AM (It67r)
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"The day my f***buddy also became my bodyguard"
or
"Let's see the Code PInk chicks do this."
Posted by: ratan at July 02, 2005 10:13 AM (pdzQc)
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Yesterday, Senator Ted Kennedy presented evidence which he claims proves that Secretary of Defence Donald Rumsfeld has sent the US military, most notably female soldiers, into combat without proper equipment.
Posted by: Graeme at July 02, 2005 12:12 PM (nzuqL)
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The backstage competition was fierce for Tonya Harding,during the new Ice-capades mini tour "Trailer Tramps On Ice"
Posted by: Doug at July 02, 2005 12:38 PM (W+urw)
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When you pry it form my...
Nevermind.
Posted by: Stephen Macklin at July 02, 2005 12:51 PM (ics4u)
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Victoria's Secret reveals its new Gunderware line.
Posted by: Rodney Dill at July 02, 2005 01:29 PM (tGTSA)
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Butt floss & a .45...........
Posted by: oxen at July 02, 2005 02:30 PM (D3EOk)
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Hey ! I've saw that before ... thats a Redneck chastity belt !
The kind my daddy gave me growing up in North Carolina !
Posted by: Wanda at July 02, 2005 05:07 PM (ywZa8)
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>>>"WE are going to lose in Iraq at the current pace because the current climate of assholedom that you promote and/or subscribe to."
boo hoo hoo, I'm sure you're so worried about that. In fact you're hoping, nay, praying to goddess for it.
Posted by: Carlos at July 02, 2005 11:52 PM (UWO6N)
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"I'll be brief Â…"
Posted by: ZiPpo, Imperial Privateer at July 03, 2005 07:13 AM (QaNJ/)
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To me, that's a lady.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 04, 2005 09:41 AM (0yYS2)
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"This gun is a real pain in the ass."
or
"Note to self: next time, no silencer."
Posted by: Venom at July 04, 2005 10:34 AM (dbxVM)
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You are never wrong with a gun in your thong.
Posted by: Alnot at July 06, 2005 02:58 PM (pO1tP)
June 30, 2005
Puke Blogging (UPDATED)
I'm getting sick. RS v. 1.5 has been throwing up for the past 4 days. Looks like it's my turn. If I'm not back in a couple of days notify the authorities. Tell them Scott Baio has pinkeye and is on the loose.
UPDATE 6/30: I'm feeling much better now. Thanks for all the well wishes. But last night.......... more...
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Look out for Patrick Duffy on the way home.
Posted by: Leopold Stotch at June 29, 2005 11:35 PM (Dy2Pz)
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He's coming right for us!
Posted by: Beck at June 30, 2005 03:07 AM (ZyH0M)
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Watch out for Wackos!
Improbulus - you are one sick-minded young man who needs to see a shrink.
Carlos- you're too damned mellow, maybe you should counsel the nuts into reality.
Thanos35 - you wear a green mask and dance the conga dance.
OsamaBinX - you and me should go hunting for wasp nests.
Improbulus' dog - you drag pig guts back from the abbatoir.
Greg - you buddies with wildman Justin Raimondo?
BUSH LIES - you little maggot punk, desert-dwelling poser, slapped with the ban that never ends!
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at June 30, 2005 07:06 AM (ScqM8)
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I love South Park. I didn't know you were a fan too.
Posted by: George Ramos at June 30, 2005 07:47 AM (qhl8h)
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I am not sure if I should be glad or upset that I didn't make DSM's list. Get well soon Rusty.
Posted by: Defense Guy at June 30, 2005 08:15 AM (jPCiN)
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Get well soon.
Posted by: Howie at June 30, 2005 08:29 AM (D3+20)
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Yea, Rusty. Pink eye - now this?
Defense Guy: I feel so left out, too.
Posted by: Oyster at June 30, 2005 09:12 AM (fl6E1)
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Looks like the plane made it.
Posted by: Howie at June 30, 2005 09:50 AM (D3+20)
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DSM, in an analytical mood, pontificated thusly:
"Improbulus - you are one sick-minded young man who needs to see a shrink."
I saw a shrink once. I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti. Would you like to see my basement?
"Carlos- you're too damned mellow, maybe you should counsel the nuts into reality."
He just needs some anger-enhancement therapy.
"Thanos35 - you wear a green mask and dance the conga dance."
Yes, but he dances naked while waving a pair of machetes around.
"OsamaBinX - you and me should go hunting for wasp nests."
I think you're in one.
"Improbulus' dog - you drag pig guts back from the abbatoir."
There are no pigs in my abbatoir, only liberals. Oh, wait I get it, you were alluding to them... clever.
"Greg - you buddies with wildman Justin Raimondo?"
Greg can neither confirm nor deny knowledge of such a person. (The Jooooooooos are listening. They're always listening.)
"BUSH LIES - you little maggot punk, desert-dwelling poser, slapped with the ban that never ends!"
Amen.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at June 30, 2005 10:46 AM (0yYS2)
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DSM, I've been known to throw rocks into hornets nests....
Posted by: osamabeenhiding at June 30, 2005 01:36 PM (huFN9)
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You need to try the Feisty Cure for What Ails You (TM) yet...but you should. You'll at least forget your troubles and your worries for two or three minutes. Hee hee. Get well.
Posted by: Feisty at June 30, 2005 03:32 PM (QBrm4)
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Rusty, everyone knows a good laugh cures almost anything:
http://www.big-boys.com/articles/tomkills.html
Tom Cruise killing Oprah, sith style!
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Re: Tom kills Oprah.
It's a lovely fantasy, but then he would absorb her powers and become unstoppable, like in "Highlander". Then again, he lacks the ability to make people turn off their minds, and I don't think he could absorb that from her, it seems innate.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at June 30, 2005 06:44 PM (0yYS2)
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That's bad, but it's not Gary Johnston puke bad. That's good to hear.
Posted by: Editor at June 30, 2005 11:31 PM (WUwLB)
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DSM,
I do enjoy reading Justin Raimondos articles on Monday, Wednesday and Friday.
Im in Italy. What a strange keyboard, I cant find the apostrophe.
Posted by: greg at July 01, 2005 06:41 AM (3D/yw)
Time to release reporter notes
Also today we have the fact that Time magazine is going to turn over reporter notes. While the journalists have refused to reveal their source their employer has caved.
Hat Tip: See Dubya (your advice did help)
Also blogger John Cole has a post on the issue.
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I'm still wondering why Novak is running free and the press is getting fucked.
Posted by: osamabeenhiding at June 30, 2005 01:28 PM (huFN9)
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It's about time.
Looks like the MSM's smear of America will cost some one some time. Good!
Posted by: Rod Stanton at June 30, 2005 01:50 PM (Z6yVb)
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Sorry for the OT post but this is important. A fine young patriot named Rusten Currie wants to run against Maxine Waters in the upcoming election. As I said, this is important. Waters is one of the best friends terrorists could have, and must be dealt with, and Rusten's the man for the job. Did I mention he's an OIF vet? Yeah, a real-life hero against a real-life traitor. It should be a fun campaign. Anyway, go, NOW!, and offer your support here: http://currierd.typepad.com/currie_for_congress/
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at June 30, 2005 01:55 PM (0yYS2)
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Rod: You know, this is a double edged sword. Keeping sources confidential gives any reporter carte blanc to just make stuff up. We've seen what happened with NYT reporter Jayson Blair and how Dan Rather ran amok and now the fellow who "retyped" the alleged Downing Street memo. But, at the same time I understand that to be forced to reveal sources will dry up those sources. No one will come forward with what might be much needed information. So I have to say that I side with the reporters. We'll just have to use better investigative techniques than they do if we suspect any tom foolery.
Posted by: Oyster at June 30, 2005 02:15 PM (fl6E1)
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They don't want to give up the good because it either names a lib as the leaker or, since in the beltway apparently everyone knew she was a spook, the "journalists" outed her.
Posted by: Filthy Allah at June 30, 2005 02:15 PM (yBHNA)
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Send Novak down to Aruba. Maybe a local Dutchman will slip him a roofie, ass rape him and then feed his bloated, pastie white body to the local crabs.
Posted by: OB snooks at June 30, 2005 02:17 PM (yBHNA)
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Dayam, OB! Agreed though. Osama made a good point. Why is Novak skating if they're so insistent on punishing a crime?
See, Osama? I'm not so unreasonable. Kiss, kiss.
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Hahaha....*sticks ass in Oyster's face* Keep kissin'... Yeah, it does seem rather absurd that he's just chillin'. Those reporters aren't innocent either, but at least they have more of a right to expose/report the truth. I know...they don't do it that often, do they? I wish there was a value system in place to force the press to reveal sources and stick to fact. The same goes for politicians. I know Carlos, but let me dream away...
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I'm gonna let that one slide, Osama, because it was much too juvenile to take seriously. Allow me to make peace without you getting snide. Show your benevolent side. I know you have it in you. You and I don't disagree on all that much.
Posted by: Oyster at July 01, 2005 06:03 AM (YudAC)
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oyster:You and I don't disagree on all that much.
Osama,
I told Collin he needs to have a serious talk with you. Youve managed to ingratiate yourself with the neocons. WTF?
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Oyster: Ok, you're right. I do have a very nasty sense of humor. Don't let it get to you because we all need to laugh more and not be offended so easily.
Greg: Since my cell was activated, I was assigned to integrate into this blog and attack from within while making butt-loads of cash collecting email addresses to spam & scam. Yeah, right.
Posted by: osamabeenhiding at July 05, 2005 12:09 PM (klOV8)
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Also, been hearing that Rove is going to be confirmed as the main leaker...should be interesting to see what happens since Bush supposedly vowed to punish anyone in his administration if they were leaking classified info.
Posted by: osamabeenvotin' at July 05, 2005 12:18 PM (klOV8)
June 29, 2005
It's hot Don: WTW
It's White Trash Wednesday.
Yes it's been hotter than a firecracker on the fourth of July. Blackberries are getting ripe and I had best get out and pick some if I want to try out making some blackberry wine. I just pulled 3 fifths from the grape I had going and I must say it's pretty dawgone good. It went a little faster because the tin box I live in gets a little hard to keep cool when the old sunball starts shining on it. Speaking of blackberries I got my first chigger of the season this week. It's right on back of the old knee. Talk about itch. Whew!!. Hey the best over the counter remedy is Benadryl liquid or spray. I guess this weekend I'll have to strip down nekkid and apply deet. Then you put on your socks and underwear and apply more deet. Then you put on your jeans and a long sleeve flannel shirt and apply more deet. You are now ready to pick blackberries. Remember though strip and bathe right afterwards because chiggers love tender places if you know what I mean.
Well I had intended to put up our Friendly Wayne Co Sheriff but while WTVW blared on about the arrest of this fine gentleman they ignored my request to post a link and the story. Just want the Sheriff and his buddies to know we know what he is dealing with. I hope they change their tune and fess up the mistake and set a good example. Yes your right Sheriff every one is looking at you and you probably feel picked on. What a good time to set an example by taking responsibility and I'm sure you will be better for it and if you do I hope you all get to keep your jobs. I'll put a link to WTWV in case they ever decide to put up that story. Be nice guys because the little weather girl. Well she's my sweety I like to get up to the TV and pinch them little cute cheeks. pinch em pinch em pinch em. I bet she had a rough childhood. She says a big cool down for this weekend. I hope so. more...
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Howie--Agreed. It's hard enough to have decent thoughts these days without television. (That's why we don't have it in YBP's casa.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at June 29, 2005 11:38 AM (x+5JB)
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Got a chigger on my trigger and I cain't get it off. There's another on my brother and a dozen on my cousin.
Posted by: Howie at June 29, 2005 12:42 PM (D3+20)
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YBP.. Yea I only do over the air TV. But since the rotor broke. I've tried to fix it but all I can do while 50 feet off the ground is hold on. Work at that point is out of the question. So I get the two stations that the blasted thing was pointed at when it quit. Fox & PBS. I'm about 6 months from paying the whole place off and then I'll fix all kind of stuff. Except I still won't pay some cable of dish service to watch commercials. If the sponsor can't cover the cost in my opinion the business plan sucks for the customer. Plus I get my Andy every Sunday night at 10:00.
Posted by: Howie at June 29, 2005 12:53 PM (D3+20)
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Hope I don't collapse from the deet or the heet.
Posted by: Howie at June 29, 2005 01:05 PM (D3+20)
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YBP: Is your mailbox full again? Get rid of that huge huge file I sent you the other day. Sorry one more time.
Posted by: Howie at June 29, 2005 02:53 PM (D3+20)
Gods Slay Titans: Natalee Hollo-who?
I'm really happy for Dan Riehl and Tom and Red of Scared Monkey's. Seriously. And by happy I mean pissed off and jealous. Despite the fact that every bone in my body says, "Blog on Natalee Holloway, because of the hits, man, THINK ABOUT THE HITS!" I just can't bring myself to do it. Pretty blonde Alabama girl in Marine corps goes missing in Iraq. Jordanian police detain father of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi for questioning.
Why? I agree with Michelle Malkin, "I just wish there were a way to take this story's magical ingredients and add them to neglected threats that affect far more people."
How about this for a headline:
Would somebody please remind the American people that THERE'S A F*CKING WAR ON!!
Ok. Got that out of my system. Now, where was I? Oh, yeah. Hey Dan, Red, or Tom, how about throwing us a link............
UPDATE: Thanks to Tom for throwing us the link. In case you can't tell, we go way back and I see he can still take a joke. I agree, his stories are not my stories, and my interests not necessarily his. And we are still just effing bloggers and not Dan Rather anchors, so I guess I'll lighten up on you guys. They've found a cause and a niche--most people only find niches and never causes--good on you.
My own cause and niche are American hostages still in Iraq. And Red, Tom, Dan Riehl are right: bloggers like us have made contacts and have sources that the MSM are oblivious to. My posts on these hostages and their posts on whats-her-name in Aruba a case in point.
Anyway, my criticism still applies to the MSM. Yes, the Halloway story is important to some people--those in Aruba, in Alabama, or among those who knew Natalee personally. Very important. But why is it on all three news 24 hr news networks every day? This story is not worthy of being in national headlines for weeks. It is worthy of bloggers and local news outlets, but certainly not the national news.
UPDATE 2:*** MPJ EXCLUSIVE *** MUST CITE MY PET JAWA ***
Dan Riehl uses 'erudite' and 'ardent' in same sentence without belching.....
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Come on now. This is a sure sign that we're winning the war. The media is in a feeding frenzy over the disappearance in Aruba (gee, can I get media credentials to go cover that story?!), sharks are attacking people (can you hear the theme from Jaws playing in the background? I knew you could), and no one is paying attention to the real problems of the day.
Exactly like what was ongoing on 9/10/01 (Chandra Levy, shark attacks, and blissful ignorance of militant Islam).
Posted by: lawhawk at June 29, 2005 10:07 AM (AcoYr)
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Some Bim from Bama gets herself pissy drunk and poked in the Whiskers by an uppity dutchman and it is 24/7 news. If she wasn't white with trashy make-up and reasonable boobies, we would never had heard of her.
She is probably crab meat now anyway.
Posted by: Filthy Allah at June 29, 2005 10:10 AM (yBHNA)
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Filthy, you have surpassed yourself with a lack of taste today.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at June 29, 2005 10:24 AM (x+5JB)
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Funny, her so called "friends" let her go off with this Dutchman and too dusky fellows and non go after her or offer to go with? What the F kind of friends are they then what??
All those so called pals of Natalie crying their crocodile tears for the friend they would not even bother stopping from leaving with native goofballs.
She is dead. She is crabmeat as Filthy Says. Get over it.
Posted by: Ob Snooks at June 29, 2005 10:34 AM (yBHNA)
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Good Point Snooks!
First off, any friend worth her salt should have and would have cockblocked the dutchman right off the bat faster than you can say Roofie. A real friend would have prevented Natalie Crabmeat from going with those dusky brutes let alone, a dirty dutchman.
Friends my ass.
Posted by: Filthy Allah at June 29, 2005 10:37 AM (yBHNA)
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I completely understand your point, Rusty, but (you knew there was a "but" coming, didn't you?) I get berated all the time by people who think I should have posted about something else when I post just about anything at all. As if I can't display concern for more than one thing at a time. Your posts mostly constitute events on the war or exposing terrorism in all its guises. This is the task you have selected to take on. Others have different priorities at different times.
I keep coming back here to get information and read links for exactly the reason you have taken on this task. That's what makes the blogosphere so great. Each person has a different idea of what's important at that moment.
However, you, as an individual, probably sleep well at night knowing you are doing your part in countering the crap that passes as news for others. That's your "crusade", for lack of a better term. And you're more focused than most. But an occasional segue is not exactly a crime.
Posted by: Oyster at June 29, 2005 10:46 AM (fl6E1)
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I will tell you what, It will be a long time before I order the crab meat salad in any hotel in Aruba.
Posted by: Filthy Allah at June 29, 2005 10:48 AM (yBHNA)
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No, Filty's right, she and her friends exercised a decided lack of judgment that night, and she paid for it with her life. She was one of those perfect girls from a rich family who was destined for a good life, and decided she wanted to go be a whore for a week or so and then go back home where she was all sweetness and light, but it didn't work out like that. I'd lay even odds that she died sometime during the love-train, or has been sold as a sex slave in Columbia or Venezuela.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at June 29, 2005 11:00 AM (0yYS2)
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GET A LIFE PEOPLE AND QUIT SPEWING YOUR FILTY SCUMBAG LIES ! SHAME ! JERKS.....
Posted by: MARY at June 29, 2005 04:43 PM (hif5L)
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Rush made a great point this morning:
We got into Iraq, and then couldn't find the WMD, so obviously, the conventional wisdom says, THERE NEVER WERE ANY WMDs.
Well...
We have police and investigators swarming all over Aruba, which is a tiny little island, and no one can find Natalee Holloway. I guess that means THERE NEVER WAS A NATALEE HOLLOWAY!
Posted by: Gullyborg at June 29, 2005 04:58 PM (L+RaQ)
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ana,
terrible pictures indeed, but failure to stop at any military checkpoint in the world is going to lead to trouble.
5 U.S Soldiers killed in suicide bombing at roadside checkpoint in Tikrit:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/14/AR2005061400395.html
4 Iraqi national guard killed at checkpoint:
http://www2.chinadaily.com. cn/english/doc/2004-10/23/content_385093.htm
4 U.S soldiers killed at checkpoint in Najaf.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/bomb_03-29-03.html
16 people killed at checkpoint in Baghdad:
http://www.sptimes.com/2004/10/07/Worldandnation/Bomb_kills_16_at_chec.shtml
5 Iraqi soldiers killed at checkpoint suicide bomb:
http://www.pjstar.com/stories/061505/AP__B6N662TC.025.shtml
This is the problem when insurgents use tactics like these, because it means innocent civilians get killed when they fail to stop at a checkpoint, I read a comment on the site that soldiers could have stopped the car with shots through the engine block, seeing as most insurgents detonate the bombs themselves the normal method of stopping that is by killing the occupants.
It is the same with insurgents wearing civilian clothing and blending in with the general populace it means innocent people get shot, because soldiers are not willing to risk their life, or their fellow soldiers life on the chance of a misunderstanding when many people manning checkpoints have been killed by suicide bombers.
Posted by: dave at June 29, 2005 10:40 PM (fsJ2z)
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Dave thanks for these links - these are "not your normal news" and they must be shown. I do think that photo records such as the ones in the URL i sent earlier are fundamental. For what?
How can a president lead an entire nation to believe *his* rationale for the war after his lies about WMD, and his ficticious 9/11-Iraq connections .
I talk daily to several supposedley "informed" people that believe that indeed such a 9/11-Iraq link exists!
However I bet those same folks know precisely the latest developments in Natalee's case... Meaning that I completely agree with Rusty!!!Shark attacks, Natalees and fingers in chili are more important than the coverage of the war on *both* sides - more images like.
Posted by: ana at June 30, 2005 03:53 AM (siPLc)
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Thank Goodness others see this over-coverage
ad -nauseum for what it is....NOTHING! I am considering
cancelling cable "news" because if I want to read a rag I will buy national enquirer.
To CNN, MSNBC, FOX get some class and show viewers what we really need to see.
Small hick town gets on the map with this missing person, obnoxious mother with the most annoying voice ever, are attacking any poster on the SM and RW blogs, they are all small minded from small town narrow-minded idiots who are impressed because they are getting all this media attention.
Go and post something what they consider negative about their idol bethie and you will get lambasted. These are some sick small town hicks who are excited that they are finally in the limelight with their designer everything knockoffs, who may have a little more than most of the hicks in their state. Just please stop all the
media or you will LOSE a lot of viewers.
And to you small minded, narrowminded hicks on SM
get a life and get over yourselves, believe it or not majority of us could care less about BT the twit and her daughter!
Posted by: brooke at August 29, 2005 07:00 AM (x2QOL)
Wednesday's Blast Around the Blogosphere (UPDATED: Awesom-O Edtion)
Round the Reader for today is up. Need something to blog about? Go and see the myriad of topics you can discuss either there or on your blog.
UPDATE: Can I dump a few links here Chris? Because my e-mail is pretty much full up with requests for links today......Be sure to check out Chris's Blast Around the Blogosphere, then check out the links below.
Dave at Garfield Ridge must have his own Awesom-o unit. Check out the funny.
Awesom-o warns you not to go here unless you are into sick humor at the expense of the Religion of Peas. Warning: NC-17 Rated--NSFW.
Ever wondered what happens to jihadis when they get out of their yards? They go feral, that's what happens. Please have your jihadis spayed or neutered. The Ebb and Flow Institute take us through feral jihadi control methods.
John Hawkins as Right Wing News interviews Mark Steyn. Steyn, perhaps the best anti-idiotarian columnist out there, names his favorite bloggers and includes the lovely and talented Kate McMillan of Small Dead Animals. Awesom-o!
Awesom-o just went down to Gitmo with a bunch of Democrats---it turns out that most of them had pretty good things to say about the 'gulag of our times'.
Simon has an awesom-o column on the prospects of post-Communist China.
Confederate Yankee has moved to the mu.nu conspiracy. Welcome aboard!
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Much obliged for the link, thank you.
Cheers,
Dave at Garfield Ridge
Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge at June 29, 2005 02:33 PM (y1hCN)
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Oy. I didn't click the link, but I DEFINITELY know what Goatse is.
Don't stare directly into it.
Posted by: Kazmin at June 30, 2005 11:14 PM (P8PxM)
June 28, 2005
Do-it Yourself Fatwa Festival: A fatwa on your house!
Yesterday's do-it-yourself fatwa festival was a big hit, so why not go two days in a row? Plus, I'm sort of on vacation with no time to do my usual blogosphere surfing in search of the most fatwa worthy posts! Have an interesting link? Want me to issue a fatwa against you? Just make sure you link this post and then send a trackback here.
Ok, so it's not an Instalanche, but it might get you a little notice. Plus, remember that part of the secret of Goolge hits is to have incoming links. A trackback sent here shows up as a link to you, hence, helps you out with the long-term hits. Win-win.
Check out the fatwas issued below.
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I can't participate because your blog still says my site is of "questionable content". [imagine my bottom lip hanging to the floor here as I pout like a four year old]
Posted by: Oyster at June 28, 2005 03:58 PM (fl6E1)
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How did mine ever get through then? I figure half of the firewalls in America are fighting me like crazy.
Posted by: Feisty at June 28, 2005 04:44 PM (A4U2y)
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I need a fatwa baby!
Posted by: Butch Morgan at June 28, 2005 05:25 PM (pSM02)
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Butch: Here ya go
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v99/daoyster/Journal/fatwah.gif
Posted by: Oyster at June 28, 2005 05:38 PM (YudAC)
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Oops. I submitted my "Developer seeks Souter home" post before noticing that you already had it covered. Oh, well, I've picked another one: "Don't count on conservatives" is a long rant occasioned by some pro-Kelo nonsense by the conservative Carl Frank at No Oil for Pacifists.
Posted by: Richard G. Combs at June 28, 2005 10:27 PM (BKHUr)
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Issue a cursed "Fawa" on the Punk BUSH LIES - who after you banned his sorry desert-dwelling keister, showed up all over the place like wasps from the basketball-sized hive I shot down from the tree. They were pissed!! WHen they calmed down I took a 3' x 5' cloth down from the clothesline where it was hanging, soaked it in kerosene, draped it over the hive and burned their asses!!
Since BUSH LIES can't write back, HA HA, you little piece of degenerate scum - you got what you deserved. Bow down to Downing Street, Bow down!
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at June 29, 2005 06:18 AM (ScqM8)
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he only writes when he's all sugared up on his kool-aid anyways.
Posted by: Jonathan at June 29, 2005 07:08 AM (6krEN)
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That little sh*t turned up at my blog too. All he posted was his usual "BUSH LIES AND SOLDIERS DIE". Naturally, I deleted the comment and in so doing disbursed it back into the ether as the disconnected, meaningless electrons it began as.
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I call this entry, "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Penis". http://princesskimberley.blogspot.com/2005/06/crouching-tiger-hidden-penis_29.html
Posted by: Princess Kimberley at June 29, 2005 06:25 PM (LNA9X)
Die Troll, Die
You-know-who has been banned. Let the celebrations begin!
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You mean the fellow who commits Durbin everyday?
Posted by: Filthy Allah at June 28, 2005 09:50 AM (yBHNA)
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I love my trolls -- because the Cavalry comes in and wipes them out.
But that's just me.
Posted by: don surber at June 28, 2005 09:51 AM (OIxNx)
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Darn...
Posted by: Chris Short at June 28, 2005 09:58 AM (0OCQY)
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Are you talking about Bush Lies, the poet and disciple of the prophet Orwell? What a shame. He was very entertaining.
Posted by: greg at June 28, 2005 10:05 AM (/+dAV)
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But... but how will I get my daily dose of Paul Levy, "spiritually-informed political activist"? I need a constant IV of poor quantum physics discussions twisted into the claim that Bush stole the 2004 election. Why, oh why did I not experience BUSH LIES until too late. It's always the good that die young.
Though in retrospect, he did not blame the Jews enough for my tastes. To hell with him.
Posted by: Wine-aholic at June 28, 2005 10:12 AM (Wsn+K)
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Rusty, you have to stop doing this. Trolls are like salt and pepper to blogs. I enjoyed the BUSH LIES buffoonery. He made us look so damn smart!
Posted by: Carlos at June 28, 2005 10:15 AM (8e/V4)
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Carlos: Fellow idiot, I think he went beyond this, though, posting book-length drivel by Jung and spouting out Carrolian gibberish. And those were his good points!
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at June 28, 2005 10:19 AM (x+5JB)
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Debate is one thing, what this guy was doing was quite another.
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at June 28, 2005 10:21 AM (JQjhA)
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Some of you guys will probably never believe me when I say this, but I have never hung out at "leftard" blogs or posted on them...my question is, do they ban people too? BLSD was pretty damn funny, but I can see how his drunk postings could really piss some people off.
Posted by: osamabinchimpin' at June 28, 2005 10:33 AM (huFN9)
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Rusty,
I think you should ban him for 2 weeks, clearly delineate the rules and then invite him back if he is agreeable to adhering to them.
Just a thought. He WAS highly entertaining.
Posted by: greg at June 28, 2005 10:38 AM (/+dAV)
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Thank you, Rusty, thank you. May Filthy Allah sacrifice another goat for you tonight.
Osama. Yes they delete comments and ban people regularly. And I've see it happen even when the poster is respectful. But, it happens on both sides. Usually only the most partisan and most shrill sites, so those blogs are not really worth reading anyway.
Posted by: Oyster at June 28, 2005 10:39 AM (fl6E1)
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osama,
it depends on the size of the blog. On bigger Lefty blogs a rightwinger moves under the raydar. But on smaller blogs the Lib totalitarian tendencies will get you banned faster than you can say politically correct fascists. They don't see it as a free speech issue, they see it as giving "hate" a platform, and they don't do that.
Posted by: Carlos at June 28, 2005 10:40 AM (8e/V4)
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BL-SD was anything BUT entertaining. Copying and pasting monolithic essays half the time and complete gibberish the other half is incredibly annoying. At first it was funny. That wore off quickly.
Posted by: Oyster at June 28, 2005 10:43 AM (fl6E1)
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Come on, admit it, the guy was a riot. I miss him already.
Posted by: greg at June 28, 2005 10:50 AM (/+dAV)
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It was all the cutting and pasting that got annoying.
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at June 28, 2005 10:50 AM (JQjhA)
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Rusty,
I'm sure he would agree to cease and desist if he knew the rules.
Posted by: greg at June 28, 2005 10:58 AM (/+dAV)
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Greg should be permanently banned this time, because he openly supports the terrorists. He thinks the gif of Bush as Nick Berg is funny. I hope he finds his neck under the knife, and the sooner the better. Being a good dhimmi won't save him. No quarter for enemies or their supporters.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at June 28, 2005 11:04 AM (0yYS2)
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Improbulus should be banned for his violent fantasies.
Posted by: greg at June 28, 2005 11:18 AM (/+dAV)
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raspberries. phhhhttttttttttt
Posted by: Howie at June 28, 2005 11:38 AM (D3+20)
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and that's to Mr. lies himself see that phhhhttttt. na na na nya nya nya.
Oh now I'm acting like him sorry.
Posted by: Howie at June 28, 2005 11:43 AM (D3+20)
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well i see that its not greg......hmmmmmm, well that leaves either B.L.S.D or someone esle more annoying and on the fringe than that....well anyways...lets have three cheers for the Colonel....HIPHIPHURRAY!!! HIPHIPHURRAY!!!HIPHIPHURRAY!!!...id sing "for he's a jolly good fellow" but my voice aint for singing cept in the shower.....sorry, ive been watching "The Bridge on The River Kwai" too many times i think...
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Oyster: "At first it was funny. That wore off quickly."
I'll top you one. I don't think it was EVER funny! I suspect Colon.
What about "Downing Street"???
Greg: "I'm sure he would agree to cease and desist if he knew the rules."
"Rules? In a knife fight?!" (from "Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid")
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at June 28, 2005 12:20 PM (x+5JB)
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Either way...I hope he comes back on only because I laughed so fucking hard when reading some of his posts.
Posted by: osamabeenvotin' at June 28, 2005 12:26 PM (huFN9)
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I may not be able to offer up a goat however, I do have some left over Habbab Kabbabs in the fridge I would be happy to sacrifice to the honorable Rusty Sahib for ridding the site of the noseless son of a motherless he pimp, BUSH LIES.
Habbab Kabbabs are very tasty indeed. YOu can reaaaaly taste the Chutney!
Posted by: FIlthy Allah at June 28, 2005 12:29 PM (yBHNA)
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I am glad he's banned. I was somewhat tolerant of his comments, until he spammed the help Emily thread with his venom. Then he went from inane babbling to pasting whole essays, how is that even entertaining?
Posted by: dave at June 28, 2005 01:20 PM (fsJ2z)
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Greg wants him back and is even lobbying for his return and Osama thinks he was "hilarious"? Okay guys. This says way too much about the level of your maturity.
YBP: When I say it was funny at first, I meant the first one or two posts because it confirmed a lot for me about the left wing nut cases.
Posted by: Oyster at June 28, 2005 02:15 PM (fl6E1)
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Oyster: I understand.
I still think they were invited here...
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at June 28, 2005 02:35 PM (x+5JB)
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Oyster...sure filtering through spammy posts is a drag, but his original posts were funny as hell. I'm sorry if you think I'm immature for saying that, but I find humor in almost anything. The nut never liked me, but he still made me laugh.
Posted by: osamabeenvotin' at June 28, 2005 02:58 PM (huFN9)
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Okay, let's take a vote then. Who should Rusty ban, me or greg? Voting should be restricted to regular contributors only please. If I am chosen I will accept your decision gracefully.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at June 28, 2005 06:07 PM (0yYS2)
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Maximus,
neither. You both make me laugh.
Posted by: Carlos at June 28, 2005 07:07 PM (8e/V4)
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Ok Rusty. Now he's over at my blog posting crap. Thanks alot.
Posted by: MKL at June 28, 2005 10:13 PM (lo+6D)
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Yep - he was crapping in my comments, too.
Emphasis on the "was" - I apparently have a low troll-threshold, and bannination hastily ensued.
[BTW, Rusty, the comments popup has an oddity or two; it doesn't like resizing (which, stupidly, is the MT default behaviour) and the text entry box is somewhat wider than the popup itself is - at least as I'm seeing it in Firefox and IE. Easy to tweak, if you want to. Drop me a line... I work cheap.]
[Actually, free.]
Posted by: Russ at June 29, 2005 01:10 AM (zShs1)
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One word to LOSER BUSH LIES - HHAAAAAAA! What a punk!
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at June 29, 2005 06:36 AM (ScqM8)
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I wouldn't ban Greg or IM either. I still want to send IM in a box as a care package to the Saudi Royal Family though...trigger ready, of course.
Posted by: osamabeenhiding at June 29, 2005 12:24 PM (huFN9)
June 27, 2005
Luke, I am your father...
One of my blog sons, Brian B., tells me there is a new satire blog he's involved in--The Constitution Death Pool. Personally I'm betting on October 5th, 2034 as the official date for the Constitution's demise. Anyhow, go check it out.
Do I have any more blog children? A couple that I know of, but hey, Rusty gets around.........
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CHIMPY is on the loose again...
Posted by: BUSH LIES - SOLDIERS DIE at June 27, 2005 06:32 PM (FV4oJ)
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CHIMPY IS the Dark Side - your impersonal Jesus, distracting you from his oversea killing field, done in the name of his false God. Bless Him, Luke's Father, for he has sinned. His Kingdom lost, America double-crossed as in hell forever.
Posted by: BUSH LIES - SOLDIERS DIE at June 27, 2005 06:41 PM (FV4oJ)
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You guys are both retarded; the Constitution died 4/8/1913. [ratification of the 17th Amendment, which effectively eliminated the 10th Amendment]
Posted by: Leopold Stotch at June 27, 2005 06:46 PM (tt834)
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False Jesus CHIMPY keeps lying and soldiers keep dying:
Tuesday, June 28, 2005
Guerrillas Shoot Down US Helicopter
Bombings in Baghdad
Bush Presses Blair for More Troops
Guerrillas using a shoulder-held missile launcher, probably an SA-16, shot down a US Apache helicopter Monday north of Baghdad, killing both servicemen aboard. AP reports, ' "Witness Mohammed Naji told Associated Press Television News he saw two helicopters flying toward Mishahda when "a rocket hit one of them and destroyed it completely in the air" . . . Heavy gunfire was heard at the time of the crash and shots also were heard afterward, the AP reporter said. ' If this is the future of the guerrilla war, US casualties will rise dramatically.
In another attack on Monday, guerrillas detonated a massive bomb aiming at a US military convoy in Baghdad during the early evening, but missed. It went off between the al-Bida'a Cinema and the Sunni al-Samarra'i Mosque, killing at least four Iraqi by-standers and wounding 16 others. AP says people were shopping in the New Baghdad area "before the curfew." There's a night-time curfew in Baghdad?
Posted by: BUSH LIES - SOLDIERS DIE at June 27, 2005 07:00 PM (FV4oJ)
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King Phallus Monkeykeeper Steel-Teeth/Concrete-Jaws CHENEY lies even worse to support his HELLIBACON empire.
Dick Cheney should confront reality
Gen. Abizaid's testimony confirmed the Iraq insurgency is far from its 'last throes.' Still, the vice president shows persistent disdain for that truth.
The Roanoke Times
Dick Cheney, meet reality.
The vice president's long-overdue introduction to reality came courtesy of Gen. John P. Abizaid's testimony Thursday before the Senate Armed Services Committee that directly contradicted Cheney's rosy assessment of an Iraq insurgency in its "last throes." Abizaid made it clear that the insurgency was every bit as strong as it was six months ago and that foreign fighters were still joining the battle. A few days before, Abizaid told the Houston Chronicle that the United States was in for an indefinite fight that would "cost in blood and treasure."
Posted by: BUSH LIES - SOLDIERS DIE at June 27, 2005 07:04 PM (FV4oJ)
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Torture-monger C H I M P Y and Monkeykeeper C H E N E Y
TORTURE PRISONERS and KILL THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE
USA Reported to Have Confirmed Torture
Le Nouvel Observateur
Sunday 26 June 2005
According to a UN official, the United States has acknowledged cases of torture inflicted on prisoners in Afghanistan, in Iraq and at Guantánamo.
The United States has acknowledged to the UN that there are cases of torture inflicted on prisoners in Afghanistan and in Iraq, as well as on the American base at Guantánamo, a member of the UN's Committee against Torture pronounced Friday, June 24.
According to this official - who wished to remain anonymous - in a report handed over to the Committee, Washington acknowledged that the abusive treatment inflicted on prisoners at the hands of American forces could be considered torture in the sense of the International Convention against Torture.
The United States' Mission to the United Nations in Geneva could not be reached Friday evening to comment on this information.
Up until now, the United States has always maintained that the abusive treatment inflicted on prisoners at the hands of its Armed Forces could not be considered torture under American law.
Posted by: BUSH LIES - SOLDIERS DIE at June 27, 2005 07:08 PM (FV4oJ)
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C H I M P Y is YOUR FALSE JESUS torturing and killing in YOUR NAME - wrapping GUNS and BOMBS in BURNING AMERICAN FLAGS to KILL
Posted by: BUSH LIES - SOLDIERS DIE at June 27, 2005 07:10 PM (FV4oJ)
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YOUR TORTURING PSYCHO CHIMPY and HIS HANDIWORK
http://cryptome.org/bush-fist.htm
WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: BUSH LIES - SOLDIERS DIE at June 27, 2005 07:16 PM (FV4oJ)
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http://www.obleek.com/iraq/index.html
C H I M P Y the FALSE SHEPHERD leads people to DIE from IRON RAIN
Posted by: BUSH LIES - SOLDIERS DIE at June 27, 2005 07:18 PM (FV4oJ)
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CHIMPY's PLAN:
Articulating The Unspeakable: The Strategy Of Genocide:
The USA must begin dealing with Muslims as a people with a unique culture and religion, worthy of the respect and humanity which the USA says it has for all peoples. The Islam of the Qur'an is a righteous religion, supporting a unique form of culture and civilization. Let's make peace with its people.
By Casey Butler
06/27/05 "ICH" - - The real tragedy of the "War on Terror" is the religious ignorance of the secular Western nations who are waging it.
Or is it ignorance? Could the most experienced and, one assumes, most efficient intelligence agencies in the world have really failed to read the Holy Book used by the 'enemies' they are 'rooting out' today?
Please consider the following Islamic truism from the Qur'an:
"Tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter"
Over the last two years the American administration's successive justifications for pre-emptive war have been peeled away like the outer garments of Gypsy Rose Lee. We are finally getting down to the brass tacks of the neo-conservative vision for resolving the thorny issue of Fundamentalist "Islamic Terrorism."
Why is George Bush so dedicated to the idea that perpetual war is the only solution to extreme Fundamentalist Islamic Terrorism?
Conservatives credit Bush with the altruistic motive of "spreading democracy" by force into lands that have traditionally been tyrannized, tyrannized by tyrants which the USA has traditionally supported. Into lands being ruled by tyranny in order to maintain 'stability' in the region for economic exploitation by the USA. By spreading democracy, it is said, 'primitive' Middle Eastern culture will be brought quickly into the present, and self-sustainable stability will result at some unidentifiable point in the future.
Liberals, on the other hand, accuse Bush of ruthlessly and opportunistically attempting to establish an economic world empire through American hegemony disguised as the liberation of Middle Eastern nations. Liberals point out Bush's backing by the commercial and corporate interests whose ventures and holdings are at risk because they conflict with the culture and religion of the Middle East.
To put all views into perspective, one only has to imagine another terrorist attack in America on the scale of September 11th, 2001. It might be a nuclear attack, a biological weapons attack, or even a suicide bomber detonating him or herself in a busy shopping mall.
Should such an attack happen, Americans will again unite in a non-partisanship of shared terror as we are once again forced to evaluate the real truth of our policies towards others. Another attack will make the views currently propagated by both sides suddenly extinct - moot, in fact, as, in reality, they are now.
The true strategy of the war on terror is simply stated: The Armed Forces of the United States are battling terror by attempting to liquidate, terminate, eliminate, waste, take out, whack, button - whatever terminology you prefer - Fundamentalist Muslims 'of color' who obey the words of the Prophet Mohammed recorded in the Holy Qur'an.
The correct word for it is 'genocide'.
An unbelievable assertion? Please allow me to expound a bit.
Following the events of September 11th, during the weeks and months that led to the decisions for pre-emptive war by the United States, great pains were taken to assure the American people that "Islam is a peaceful religion". Islamic religious leaders and mullahs were paraded before the cameras, invited to the White House, and praised by the President in an effort to head off any kind of general feeling of revenge against Muslims that might arise in the American hinterland.
The problem is that the opinions expressed by moderate Islamic religious leaders and mullahs, and many Islamic scholars, do not accurately reflect the message that Muslim Fundamentalists believe the Prophet Mohammed received from God and recorded in the Qur'an.
Internationally, Americans are perceived as an arrogant people, and I am no exception. I'm not one to point fingers at others because I didn't get around to reading the Qur'an until fairly recently. I've now read it through twice and I am surprised at what I found.
If the Old Testament is considered inspired, the Qur'an is certainly inspired. It describes itself as the Word of God for Arabic-speaking peoples, and would not exist without the Jewish Torah and Gospels of Jesus, of which it is a continuance - ie. further 'revelation' in Arabic.
Today it is crucial that all of us know what the Qur'an says, especially those in our 'secular' government who are responsible for implementing policy supposedly representing the will of "we, the people".
When people are desperate and oppressed they tend to turn to their religion more earnestly than they do when when they're happy and comfortable.
When people become victims of poverty or war, natural disasters or oppression, etc... they will turn to their religion for relief.
In the case of Muslims, the Qur'an defines a religion based on the worship of the same God shared by Christians and Jews. So when Muslims experience poverty or oppression, invasion and occupation, as Christians and Jews might turn to the Gospels or the Torah in the same situation, many Muslims turn to the Qur'an.
Why would Islamic leaders say unequivocally that Islam is peaceful when the Qur'an says it is not? Well, why do many Christian leaders say that war against Islam is justified when Jesus Christ said killing is never justified?
Those who propagate religion make it compatible with their own opinions and circumstances, treating original religious truths as non-expedient for their own modern existence, modifying many and even completely annulling some.
Islam, within the borders of its mandate, is peaceful. Muslims are commanded to treat with respect other belief systems under their regional control, during conditions of peace.
When a region under Islam is challenged, when it is invaded, occupied, or oppressed, Islam is not a peaceful religion. In fact, in those cases, Muslims are admonished, nay, obligated, by the Qur'an to fight in self-defense, using "every stratagem of war", until they are no longer oppressed and occupied.
Below, I am presenting verses from the Qur'an you may be familiar with. They are regularly used by people who try to present Islam as a dangerous religion, a religion out to conquer the world by whatever means necessary, violence included.
I am presenting these same verses, but I'm asking you to reasonably think through what they really mean to Muslims and the rest of the world today.
To begin with, please consider the ramifications of the following verses from the Qur'an for the American troops now stationed in Afghanistan and Iraq, and those who oppose them:
"Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors.
"And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith.
"But if they cease, Allah is Oftforgiving, Most Merciful. And fight them on until there is no more Tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah; but if they cease, Let there be no hostility except to those who practise oppression." [Surah 2.190-193]
These verses are presented "out of context". However, they are also substantiated throughout the Qur'an as Islam's legitimate and divine right to self-defense when the structure of Islamic law, especially the institution of care and support of the poor and needy, are threatened from the 'outside'.
These verses are divine instructions. Unlike the recruiting problems the USA faces today, these words guarantee there will never be a shortage of Muslim fighters as long the Qur'an exists.
Further, note that it is every Muslim's duty to harbor fighters for the faith:
"Those who believed, and adopted exile, and fought for the Faith, with their property and their persons, in the cause of Allah, as well as those who gave (them) asylum and aid, these are (all) friends and protectors, one of another. As to those who believed but came not into exile, ye owe no duty of protection to them until they come into exile; but if they seek your aid in religion, it is your duty to help them, except against a people with whom ye have a treaty of mutual alliance. And (remember) Allah seeth all that ye do.
"The Unbelievers are protectors, one of another: Unless ye do this, (protect each other), there would be tumult and oppression on earth, and great mischief.
"Those who believe, and adopt exile, and fight for the Faith, in the cause of Allah as well as those who give (them) asylum and aid, these are (all) in very truth the Believers: for them is the forgiveness of sins and a provision most generous." [Surah 8.72-8.74]
Who can be designated a fighter for the Islamic faith? Any Muslim wishing to fight:
"Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not. They ask thee concerning fighting in the Prohibited Month. Say: "Fighting therein is a grave (offence); but graver is it in the sight of Allah to prevent access to the path of Allah, to deny Him, to prevent access to the Sacred Mosque, and drive out its members."
"Tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter.
"Nor will they cease fighting you until they turn you back from your faith if they can. And if any of you Turn back from their faith and die in unbelief, their works will bear no fruit in this life and in the Hereafter; they will be companions of the Fire and will abide therein." [Surah 2.216-217]
Whether you are religious or not, please consider the information in these verses.
These words are, and always will be, in the Qur'an. Nothing will eliminate them except the elimination of the people whose faith is based on them... The genocide of the people whose faith is in these words.
The words cannot be changed. The Prophet Mohammed was the last Prophet of Islam. According to the Qur'an, only the coming of the Judgment Day will fulfill the words of God recorded in the Qur'an, or the return of Jesus Christ. Hearing these words of the Qur'an ought to put into context the words of our President, George W. Bush, when he said: "Bring 'em on!".
The Bush administration's decision to invade and occupy Muslim nations in perpetuity, while intentionally keeping knowledge of the Qur'anic doctrine of self-defense from the American people, is the USA's politically correct, long-term, 'final solution' for "Islamic terrorism."
American and British troops are being used as the flypaper to attract terrorist flies to the slaughter - but there's a 'slight' problem.
As outlined recently, the Bush administration is looking to fight the "terrorists" on their own turf, and fight them outside of the USA. The big flaw in this thinking is that, while Muslim extremists like Osama bin Laden and his group have defined the world itself as the battlefield in which Islam must be defended by any means, the great majority of mainstream Muslims have always interpreted the doctrine of self-defense as nationalistic or regional.
By invading across international borders, Bush has put his stamp of approval on the Al-Queda view that Islamic fighters were justified to strike across international borders in defense of Islam.
Thus the USA's pre-emptive invasions, meant to attract 'international terrorists' to fight it in Islamic nations instead of on American soil, are in fact legitimizing the extremist Fundamentalist doctrine of its supposed enemy.
The result is that the majority of mainstream Muslims who would formerly have resisted violently defending themselves across international borders, are now religiously beholden to fighting the United States according to the Qur'an. They are obligated to fight with the full backing of God as they know Him. They also the backing of the real international terrorist networks the USA initially set out to eradicate.
Intentionally or not, perpetual war - genocide by war - is an American strategy borne of religious ignorance.
Despite all the military might being brought to bear on Muslim nations, the real international terrorist networks are still capable of attacks on American soil.
War is war. Causing death and destruction to force your opponent to submit is the object of war.
The object of the War on Terror is the eradication of Muslim Fundamentalists who obey the Qur'an's admonitions to defend Islam. Ironically, the more Fundamentalist Muslims the USA eradicates, the more fundamentalists it also creates... The more people from the ranks of Moderate Muslims who will turn to the Qur'an instead of their compromising leaders in order to make sense of the evil happening to their brothers and sisters around them.
This is the foreseeable future that our administration is promoting today: perpetual war - perpetual terror.
What can we do? Whether liberals or conservatives are in power, Democrats or Republicans, using the overwhelming force of the U.S. Military against Muslim innocents in their own land is executing the same cyclic strategy of genocide.
The USA is like a giant locomotive switched onto the wrong track. In its decision for war following 9/11, it blasted through the warning barrier reading: "Danger! Track Ends, Mountain Ahead!". Continuing to expedite this war, the locomotive's engineers are stoking the fire furiously, building up steam... planning to tunnel through a mountain using the forward motion of a derailed locomotive.
The only way to end this war, is to withdraw all Western troops from all Muslim nations, alter U.S. policy to oppose tyranny in those countries, and peacefully support home-grown movements for democracy. The USA must begin dealing with Muslims as a people with a unique culture and religion, worthy of the respect and humanity which the USA says it has for all peoples. The Islam of the Qur'an is a righteous religion, supporting a unique form of culture and civilization. Let's make peace with its people.
Until that day, our policy in this war is a policy of genocide, not only against the Muslim freedom fighters fighting for the cause of God, but also against the brave Coalition troops we've sent to die in our place, who are also fighting for the cause of God.
If any cause is going to unite America, it will be the cause of no war at all from now on.
"Casey Butler is the author of the award-winning, anti-war geography game series World Empire. Today he spends most of his time working towards understanding religious scriptures. He can be reached at jogger@xmission.com ."
Copyright: Casey Butler
Posted by: BUSH LIES - SOLDIERS DIE at June 27, 2005 08:24 PM (FV4oJ)
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Yawn !
you enjoying your kool-aid ?
Posted by: Jonathan at June 27, 2005 09:43 PM (wdVtc)
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Will someone PLEASE rid us of this moron?
Posted by: Oyster at June 27, 2005 09:49 PM (YudAC)
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dear lord, please ban this idiot permanently. Apparently tonight he isn't intoxicated and misspelling everything, which is a small mercy.
He is ruining this blog, he even posted his demented shit in the thread to help the girl who needs an operation to live.
if Greg. who at least makes intelligent debate can get banned why can't this testicle leech?
How much "BUSSSH IS A MMCC CHIMMPY WHO BATHES IN YUOR KIDS BLOODDDDDD" do we have to endure, before he's gone?
Posted by: dave at June 27, 2005 09:55 PM (fsJ2z)
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Do I have any more blog children? A couple that I know of, but hey, Rusty gets around.........
Whenever someone says "who's your daddy", I usually yell "Rusty!!!!"...does that count?
Posted by: Feisty at June 27, 2005 10:00 PM (QBrm4)
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someone let the air out that old windbag, please???...he's giving me a freakin headache reading all that drivel he posts.....and i thought Charles Manson could babble on like an idiot....B.L.S.D. makes him look intelligent
Posted by: THANOS35 at June 27, 2005 11:21 PM (kDAye)
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What are you afraid of, goofbag Thanatophoric35? The truth?
Alcohol screws everything up and makes typing difficult, Dave.
BUSH is SIMIAN, a heartless boll weevil who sends people to die.
Posted by: BUSH LIES - SOLDIERS DIE at June 28, 2005 02:11 AM (FV4oJ)
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THE BUSH CULT
by Paul Levy
It is a shattering experience to see through our imaginary projections and recognize that someone we thought was leading and protecting us does not have our best interest at heart. People who support Mr. George Bush resist and turn away from the irrefutable and readily available evidence that Bush is anything but a good leader, as if they are in denial with a capital D. Bush is saying one thing and doing totally the opposite, and many people are simply in denial of this and look away. It is truly as if people who support Bush are not only in denial, but are actually refusing to look and hence, blind to what to most of the world is very obvious. It is as if people who support Bush are under a hypnotic spell, and are suffering from a form of collective brainwashing. People who support Bush in his pathology are exhibiting nothing other than the groupthink of cultic behavior.
Followers of a cult unquestioningly give their power away to their leader?s version of reality. People in a cult have dis-connected from their discerning wisdom, which is the ability to discriminate between the opposites, between truth and lies, between good and evil. In a cult, any sort of reflection of the leader?s unconscious shadow is not only not allowed, but is severely punished. The cult leader is typically insulated from people who disagree with him, not even wanting to come in contact and have any connection with people who have a different point of view. People in a cult exhibit complete and total denial with regard to any evidence that contradicts the agreed upon belief of the cult. This perfectly describes people who are following Bush as their leader. People who follow Bush are completely in denial about his truly criminal behavior.
People who belong to a cult always get hooked through their unconscious fear and blind spot. The cult members? relationship with each other is based on mutual unconsciousness, as they reciprocally reinforce each other?s denial and illusion. In a cult, there is always some form of mind-control, such as the Bush Administration?s control and manipulation of the media. ?Staying on message? is the typical communication style within a cult. The cult leader plays with people?s fears so as to gain their trust and control them, which is a process that is not based on love but on power over others.
There are always aspects of a cult that are kept hidden and secret, which is the mechanism that keeps its hierarchical power in place. In a cult, this inequality of power ensures that a form of abuse always gets unconsciously acted out. In a cult, the members identify with only one side of an inherently two-sided polarity, projecting out the marginalized shadow. Hence, people who disagree with the cult are seen to have fallen under the spell of the Devil. Members of a cult are convinced of the rightness of their point of view, which they consider non-negotiable. Hence, there is no room for the open dialogue and debate which is at the core of a true democracy. Cults will even suppress and distort science to serve their ends, just like the Bush Administration is doing for partisan political ends. And the cult leader is (arche)typically either identified with God or feels he has a special relationship with God. Cult leaders and their followers see themselves as agents of apocalyptic, end-time scenarios, which is one of the more disturbing aspects of Bush and his supporters from the religious right.
At their root, cults are based on a mass, collective unconsciousness which feeds and reinforces itself. The cult is of the nature of an infinitely-perpetuating negative feedback loop, fueled by its members? (?the elect?) unwillingness and resistance to self-reflect, look in the mirror and see what they are doing. Because it is so insular and unable to integrate any reflections from the outside, a cult always becomes self-destructive and ultimately destroys itself. This is why it is an extremely dangerous situation if Bush and his cultic followers take over our country, as it will create endless, unnecessary suffering for all of us. Bush might not just take down our country but our very planet as well. Another name for cults is collective psychosis.
It is profoundly important for us, as citizens of this country to recognize the nature of the collective madness that is expressing itself through Mr. Bush and Company. People who are following Bush have become entranced and have fallen asleep. What the great psychiatrist Jung would call a psychic epidemic pervades our country and world right now. If our country gives our power away to and elects a madman such as George Bush for another four years, we would in one sense be like the Germans during World War II, who, to quote Jung, ?follow a mediumistic Fuhrer [which means leader] over the housetops with a sleep-walkers assurance, only to land in the street with a broken back.?
Paul Levy is a spiritually-informed political activist. He can be reached at paul@awakeninthedream.com. Please visit his website at www.awakeninthedream.com, where his article ?The Madness of George Bush: A Reflection of Our Collective Psychosis? is available. Please feel free to pass this article along to a friend if you feel so inspired.
© 2004 Paul Levy
Posted by: BUSH LIES - SOLDIERS DIE at June 28, 2005 02:16 AM (FV4oJ)
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(I tried to warn you.. but you would not listen...)
CHRIST WOULD NOT SUPPORT BUSH
by Paul Levy
One of the most interesting aspects of George Bush being president is that he is a born-again Christian and recognized leader of the religious right. Like any fundamentalist group, the religious right are identified with only one side of the polarity (the light), and split off from their own shadow, projecting it outside of themselves. Interestingly, Jung refers to projecting the shadow as ?the lie.? People who project the darkness inevitably dream up someone into materialization who they experience as being the embodiment of the ?Devil,? whose inner meaning is both ?the adversary? and ?the liar.? People who disagree with the fundamentalist are seen as agents of the Devil, who need to be destroyed. By projecting the shadow, however, the fundamentalist becomes possessed by the very thing they are trying to destroy. Fighting the Devil is radically different than loving God.
Just like we can interpret our dreams symbolically, and we can interpret our life as a dream, we can contemplate any and all events in this universe as we would a dream being dreamed by a deeper, dreaming part of ourselves. Certain events in world history are uniquely illuminating to contemplate in this way, such as, for example, the Christ event. Seen symbolically, as if it were a dream, the Christ event is an unmediated expression of a deeper process going on inside the psyche of humankind that both literally, as well as symbolically, got dreamed up into materialization in, through and as this very universe of ours. In the life of Christ it is as if an archetypal, transcendental dynamic ?irrupted? into and out of this universe, incarnating itself in linear time so as to become visible and actualized. Through the Christ event, which is a higher-dimensional out-pouring of an atemporal process that exists outside of space/time itself, our true nature is being symbolically reflected and revealed, but only for those who have eyes to see.
The language of dreams is symbols; the secret of the Christ event is revealed by viewing it symbolically. Christ himself expresses this very point in the apocryphal (literally, secret book) Acts of John. Christ shows John a "cross of light," saying "this is not the cross of wood which you will see when you go down from here; neither am I he that is on the cross." The great psychiatrist C. G. Jung understood very well that Christ was a symbol of our wholeness which he called the archetype of the ?Self.? As Jung points out, there is "a visible split between the historical event down below on earth, as perceived by the senses, and its ideal, visionary reflection on high, the cross appearing on the one hand as a wooden instrument of torture and on the other as a glorious symbol."
"Christ," to quote Jung "is merely the projection [ie- a dreamed up phenomenon] of an entirely human mystery [in that he?s reflecting something back that?s deep inside of our soul]." Jung continues, "the real mystery does not behave mysteriously or secretively, it speaks a different language. It adumbrates itself by a variety of images which all indicate its true nature." The different language is dreamspeak, whose articulation is symbolic, not literal. Symbols are very different than signs (ex, "one way, do not enter"), whose meaning is literal, known and can be conveyed in words. A symbol is an expression or emanation of a deeper mystery, as it points to something beyond itself. When we decode and get in resonance with a symbol, it becomes a doorway into and actualizes this deeper state that it itself is a manifestation of. Symbols are psychic energy transformers which reflect and effect a change in consciousness itself.
Like any symbol, the Christ event expresses and constellates analogous psychic processes in the beholder. The Gospel of Phillip says "Some indeed see him and realize that they are seeing themselves." This is why Christ says in the apocryphal Acts of John, "A mirror am I to you that know me?.if you understand me, you shall be in your understanding as I am?.behold what you are, I have shown you?behold what is thine through me."
Christ is giving a mystic transmission of true "gnosis," of a knowing that is not separate from its object of knowledge. He is reflecting back how to view life symbolically and perceive experience as a reflective mirror, which provides and evokes a deeper sense of meaning. This is why, after this experience, John, "held fast this one thing," in himself, "that the Lord contrived all things symbolically and by a dispensation toward men, for their conversion and salvation."
To quote Jung, "For the believing Christian, Christ is everything, but certainly not a symbol, which is an expression for something unknown or net yet knowable. And yet he is a symbol by his very nature. Christ would never have made the impression he did on his followers if he had not expressed something that was alive and at work in their unconscious."
A symbol brings together, reconciles and unites contraries or opposites. Christ on the cross is a living, breathing symbol, a true ?coincidentia oppositorum? (a co-incidence, or conjunction of opposites). To quote Jung ?The life of Christ is just what it had to be if it is the life of a god and a man at the same time. It is a symbolum.? Seen as a symbol, Christ brings together and unites the heterogeneous natures of God and humankind in one being. Here in the figure of Christ on the cross we have God himself in all his infinitude, bounded and limited to the max, nailed to the third dimension of space and time. Here in the figure of Christ we have God himself feeling totally human and completely alienated from God, which is to say, from himself. This is perfectly expressed by Christ?s cry ?My God, why have thou forsaken me.? This moment of the utmost distance from God, paradoxically, was at the same time an experience of the greatest divinity.
Just like Christ is a symbol of the Self, the cross is a symbol for Christ. Jung continues "even for the knower of divine secrets the act of crucifixion is a mystery, a symbol that expresses a parallel psychic event in the beholder." The cross is symbolic of what Jung would call ?holding the tension of the opposites.? When we identify with only one side of a two-sided polarity, splitting-off from and projecting out the other side, we will develop a symptom, a ?dis-ease? in the core of our being, and will create nothing but suffering and destruction, and in the ultimate sense, death. To hold the tension of the opposites, however, is to be able to embrace and contain both the dark and light parts of our nature simultaneously without dissociating and projecting the shadow outside of ourselves. To hold this tension is truly a crucifixion for the ego, a genuine ?agonia,? but it activates a deeper process inside the core of our being, which is to say that it constellates life in the deepest sense. To be holding the tension of the opposites is to be genuinely ?imitating Christ,? as to be holding this creative tension without splitting-off from our darkness is to be living our lives as fully and authentically as Christ lived his. Out of this creative tension emerges what Jung calls a ?reconciling symbol.? This is a living symbol which both transcends and unites the opposites in a greater totality. We experience this as grace, as it is an expansion of consciousness and thereby something we could not think of by ourselves, but occurs to us with the force of a revelation, as if it comes from God. Christ himself is an example of such a symbol.
Instead of holding the tension of the opposites, George Bush, on the other hand, is an embodiment of someone who is completely dissociated from and has split-off and projected out his darker half. Like anyone who is fanatically identified with only one side of a polarity, George Bush has to dream up his darker side ?out there,? in this case on the world stage, to do battle with. To quote Jung ?The psychological rule says that when an inner situation is not made conscious, it happens outside, as fate. That is to say, when the individual remains undivided [not in touch with both the light AND the dark parts of themselves] and does not become conscious of his inner opposite, the world must perforce act out the conflict and be torn into opposing halves.?
Jung points out, ?It is perfectly possible, psychologically, for the unconscious or an archetype to take complete possession of a man and to determine his fate down to the smallest detail.? People who become so seized by an archetype could be said to be the embodiment of the archetype in human form. They become the instrument through which the archetype becomes both visible and actualized. Jung conjectures that Christ himself is an example of such a situation. To quote Jung ?Since the life of Christ is archetypal to a high degree, it represents to just that degree the life of the archetype.? Christ is symbolic of the archetype of the Self, which is the God within, or we could say our divine wholeness (?holiness?).
When the archetypal dimension is activated and accessed to such a degree, the environment will even synchronistically reflect back this state of identification with the archetype. When someone becomes possessed by an archetype, to quote Jung ?the archetype fulfils itself not only psychically in the individual, but objectively outside the individual.? This state of embodying the archetype is a situation where the inner process expresses itself synchronistically through the medium of the outside world, as the boundary between the inner and outer has dissolved.
Like Christ, George Bush has become possessed by the archetype of the Self. By being so unconsciously taken over by the more powerful archetype, Bush?s inner dissociation becomes visible as the boundary dissolves between his inner process and the outer world. Because of the position of power that he finds himself in, Bush?s inner conflict externalizes itself as he is able to play it out on the world stage.
Just like a photograph has a negative, Christ is the image of our divine wholeness (holiness), while Bush is the complete and polar opposite, or ?negative? of this image. In Bush?s case, unlike Christ, who was consciously channeling the positive aspects of the archetype of the Self, Bush is unconsciously possessed by the negative aspect of this archetype, which is to say that he is incarnating the archetype destructively, creating trauma and suffering for anyone in his sphere of influence, which in this case is the whole world. Becoming unconsciously ?seized? by an archetype like this always results in total self-destruction. Interestingly enough, the word ?seized? is related to the word ?rapture.?
To say Christ is a symbol is in no way to devalue him or take something away. On the contrary, to say the Christ event is symbolic is to say that it points to something greater than itself, that it is an actual portal into a deeper dimension of our being. If this universe is viewed in its dreamlike nature, it becomes clear that phenomenon such as the Christ event are configured in a way so as to reveal and activate something deep in our nature. To be truly ?born-again? is to recognize that this 3-D universe of ours is embedded in and an emanation of a higher-dimensional synchronistic matrix that is both literally, as well as symbolically, arranging events in this waking dreamscape of ours so as to reflect and effect certain archetypal processes that are happening deep inside the dreamer, which is us.
For the linear and literal-minded such as George Bush and the religious right, to see the Christ event symbolically is considered blasphemous and heretical. For example, a book written in 1835 implying that the Christ event could be viewed symbolically was reviewed as "the most pestilential book ever vomited out of the bowels of hell." Speaking of the apocryphal Acts of John, Pope Leo the Great condemned it as "a hotbed of manifest perversity," which "should not only be forbidden, but entirely destroyed and burned with fire."
Why is the mere suggestion to see the Christ event symbolically evoking such a violent reaction? What Christ is saying is both psycho-activating and liberating to contemplate, which is threatening to those who are attached to being in a position of power. To quote Jung ?The story of the Temptation clearly reveals the nature of the psychic power with which Jesus came into collision: it was the power-intoxicated devil.? What Christ is saying is particularly threatening to those in power, as Christ?s teachings are totally egalitarian. People like George Bush, who have become corrupted, attached and addicted to power, are particularly threatened by Christ?s teachings. Because he is addicted to power, Bush is trying to conquer and dominate the universe instead of being in relationship to it. As if talking about our current times, Jung comments ?The reigning prince of this world shuns the light of knowledge like the plague.?
What Christ is saying is threatening to those who interpret the Bible literally, such as Bush and the religious right. Interpreting the Bible literally is the very opposite of the way Christ himself wanted us to view his incarnation. Interpreting the Bible literally protects us from having to look in the mirror (whose inner meaning is ?shadow holder?) and deal with our own darkness. Interpreting the Bible literally ensures that we can project out and locate the evil ?out there,? thereby shielding ourselves from coming to terms with the evil in our own hearts. As Jung points out, when people such as Bush project the shadow ?this negligence [in dealing with their own darkness] is the best means of making him an instrument of evil.?
Seeing symbolically, whose inner meaning is that which unites, is the antonym and antidote to ?diabolos,? whose inner meaning is that which separates and divides. To see the Christ event symbolically would be to recognize, to quote Jung, that ?as we take the Christ projection [reflection] back into ourselves, each one of us is Christ." Jung continues, "the self, or Christ, is present in everybody a priori, but as a rule in an unconscious condition to begin with." Jung points out that everything unconscious, such as our divinity, once it was activated, always gets projected out and approaches us from outside, which is to say it gets dreamed up into actual incarnation. Jung goes on, that the self, or Christ, "is only real when it happens, and it can happen only when you withdraw your projections from an outward historical or metaphysical Christ, and thus wake up the Christ within?.an act of introjection is needed, i.e., the realization that the self (i.e, Christ) lives in you and not in an external figure separated and different from yourself."
The literal interpretation of the Christ event that Bush and the followers of the religious right believe in is a deluded and distorted interpretation of what Christ was actually teaching. Christ himself would be appalled at Bush?s perversion of his teachings. When we contemplate George Bush through the lens of Christ?s teachings themselves, it becomes clear that Bush, with all his pious vows of compassion, is actually ?missing the mark,? which is the inner meaning of the word ?sin.? Like Jung says ?Our blight is ideologies- they are the long-expected AntiChrist.?
Is George Bush the incarnation of evil? Or is he the highest level bodhisattva playing a very unpopular role, spurring on the greatest numbers to unfathomable heights of awakening? This is analogous to the dilemma that confronts quantum physics- is it a wave or a particle? Like quantum physics points out, it all depends on how we observe it. Like a symbol that contains and unites both of the opposites, George Bush is simultaneously both the instrument of the darkest evil co-joined with being the bringer of the light, which is the inner meaning of ?Lucifer.?
Ours is a situation of open-ended potentiality, with the question becoming, how do we want to dream it? The choice is truly ours. Do we go belly-up as we get drafted into endless wars, to quote Jung, allowing ourselves ?to be driven to the slaughterhouse by [our] leading psychopaths like hypnotized sheep?? Or do we access the highest level of our creativity and power as we connect with each other and unite (which revealingly, is the inner meaning of the word ?symbol?) in lucid awareness? Never before in all of human history has consciousness itself played such a crucial role in how our universe will manifest.
Like Christ, George Bush has been collaboratively dreamed up into incarnation by all six billion of us. Seen symbolically, the way Christ himself would instruct us to see it, George Bush is a living, breathing embodied reflection that unites the contradictory natures of God and the Devil in one being. This vision is a true ?coincidentia oppositorum,? which is the reconciling symbol that emerges out of holding the tension of the opposites. To quote Kazantzakis, author of the Last Temptation of Christ ?Someone came. Surely it was God, God??or was it the devil? Who can tell them apart? They exchange faces: God sometimes has become all darkness, the devil all light, and the mind of man is left in a muddle.?
Recognizing that this dreamlike universe of ours is a living, breathing symbol that is speaking symbolically allows it to resume its revelatory function. Speaking of Christ, Jung says ?the image of the God-man lives in everybody and has been incarnated (projected) in the man Jesus, to make itself visible, so that people could realize him as their own interior homo, their self.? Seen as a dreaming process, in an analogous way, we have all collaboratively dreamed up George Bush into actual incarnation so as to see and potentially integrate this dissociated, unconscious and asleep part of ourselves that he is a reflection of.
George Bush is a living, breathing symbol of this dark, ignorant, traumatized, afraid and pathological part of ourselves. When we recognize that George Bush is a mirrored reflection of a sick part of ourselves, compassion spontaneously arises, as we are embracing the darkest part of ourselves. George Bush challenges us to come to terms with the deepest evil inside of ourselves. To quote Mahatma Gandhi ?The only devils in the world are those running around in our own hearts- that is where the battle should be fought.?
Viewed as the symbol that it is, the Christ event is revealing that this state of co-joining, interpenetration, and union between God and humankind has already happened, has already been accomplished in the pleroma (the eternal fullness of the collective unconscious), and simply needs to be recognized to be made real in time. This is why Jung says, "Although (God) is already born in the pleroma, his birth in time can only be accomplished when it is perceived, recognized and declared by man."
In other words, the process of the incarnation of God through, in and as humanity is seemingly playing itself out in linear, sequential time in our world, yet in the atemporal, higher-dimensional reality in which our universe is contained, this process of divine incarnation through, in and as humanity has already been accomplished. We simply need to recognize what is symbolically being revealed. Like Christ himself says ?The Kingdom is spread all over earth and people just don?t see it.?
Paul Levy is a spiritually-informed political activist. He can be reached at paul@awakeninthedream.com. Please visit his website at www.awakeninthedream.com, where his article ?The Madness of George Bush: A Reflection of Our Collective Psychosis? is available. Please feel free to pass this article along to a friend if you feel so inspired.
© 2005 Paul Levy www.awakeninthedream.com
Posted by: BUSH LIES - SOLDIERS DIE at June 28, 2005 02:18 AM (FV4oJ)
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CHIMPY's EVIL UNLEASHED!
Shedding Light On Evil
by Paul Levy
Whether we see evil in the terrorists or in George W. Bush, I simply cannot imagine anyone would dispute that the face of evil has emerged in this world of ours. There is something about looking at evil, however, that is very different than when we passively witness something that we remain unaffected by. No one can see evil and stay untouched. To quote the great doctor of the soul, C. G. Jung, who to my mind has the deepest insight into the nature of evil of anyone I?ve encountered, ?The sight of evil kindles evil in the soul- there is no getting away from this fact?..the wickedness of others becomes our own wickedness because it kindles something evil in our own hearts.? In dealing with evil we have to recognize that it is not something we can see and remain separate from, as if we are safely in the audience, out of harm?s way. When we see evil, something inside of us gets ignited and set aflame.
At the sight of evil, to quote Jung, ?Indignation leaps up, angry cries of ?Justice!? pursue the murderer, and they are louder, more impassioned and more charged with hate the more fiercely burns the fire of evil that has been lit in our souls.? When we see evil, if we react with moral indignation, cocksure of our own innocence and righteousness, this itself is an expression that we ourselves have become infected by evil and have become a conduit for evil to act itself out through us. To quote Jung, ?True, we are innocent, we are the victims, robbed, betrayed, outraged; and yet for all that, or precisely because of it, the flame of evil glowers in our moral indignation.?
When we see evil it triggers a resonant darkness inside of us, as if we have secretly recognized a part of ourselves. It is important to recognize that we could not look at the face of evil and see it unless we had that very same evil in ourselves. We wouldn?t be able to recognize it otherwise.
It is then a question of whether we can integrate what has gotten triggered in us, or do we inwardly dissociate from our own darkness, imagining it to be separate from ourselves, and project the evil ?out there? onto some ?other.? Projecting the shadow like this, to quote Jung, ?strengthens the opponent?s position in the most effective way, because the projection carries the fear which we involuntarily and secretly feel for our own evil over to the other side and considerably increases the formidableness of his threat.? The nature of this world is such that if we project out our own darkness, the world will shape-shift and provide convincing evidence that the evil really does exist out there, which simply confirms to us our delusion in a never ending, self-generating feedback loop.
To the extent that any of us have withdrawn our projection of the shadow ?out there? we have begun, to quote Jung, ?the only struggle that is really worthwhile: the fight against the overwhelming power-drive of the shadow.? For as Jung points out, every person ?harbours within himself a dangerous shadow and adversary who is involved as an invisible helper in the dark machinations of the political monster. It is in the nature of political bodies always to see the evil in the opposite group, just as the individual has an ineradicable tendency to get rid of everything he does not know and does not want to know about himself by foisting it off on somebody else.? Both the individual as well as the body politic have a tendency to project the evil outside of themselves. An individual projecting the shadow outside of themselves actually feeds into, supports and helps to create the shadow projection of the greater body politic.
We are all complicit in what our country is doing in Iraq. We all share in the guilt. The bombs dropping on innocent civilians have our names on them. We are not separate but interconnected and interdependent beings, all part of the greater world community. To quote Jung, ?Since no man lives within his own psychic sphere like a snail in its shell, separated from everybody else, but is connected with his fellow-men by his unconscious humanity, no crime can ever be what it appears to our consciousness to be: an isolated psychic happening.? This collective guilt, what Jung calls ?guilt by contagion? belongs to everyone, there is no getting away from it. To again quote Jung, ?the murder has been suffered by everyone, and everyone has committed it??we have all made this collective psychic murder possible?.in this way we are unavoidably drawn into the uncleanness of evil; no matter what our conscious attitude may be. No one can escape this.?
The evil that is playing out on the world stage is something all six billion of us are mutually creating and ?dreaming up? together. This is to say the evil that is incarnating in our world is something we are not separate from but are all playing roles in and collaborating with. To quote Edmund Burke, ?Evil can only happen when good people do nothing.? By being a ?dreamed up phenomenon,? the evil that is appearing in our world is a full-bodied reflection, in living, breathing color of the evil inside of ourselves. It is as if an inner process happening deep within the collective unconscious of all of humanity has gotten externalized and projected outside of ourselves, which is to say that it has gotten ?dreamed up? into materialization. If the evil that is manifesting prompts enough of us, however, to recognize that it is a mirrored reflection of a part of ourselves and we self-reflect, we can collaboratively metabolize the evil in such a way that it catapults us into a collective expansion of consciousness.
Jung says it is only those among us who are self-reflective who have ?the realization of the immense and overwhelming power of evil, and of the fact that mankind is capable of becoming merely the instrument [italics mine].? The realization of our potential susceptibility to self-deception that could lead to unwitting acts of evil serves as a psychic immunization, so to speak, and creates true humility which itself is a safeguard against evil. This is why, to quote Jung, ?The true leaders of mankind are always those who are capable of self-reflection.? Jung points out that ?only relatively few individuals can be expected to be capable of such an achievement, and they are not the political but the moral leaders of mankind.? Compared to the moral leaders of humanity, Jung points out that the ?so called [political] leaders are the inevitable symptoms of a mass movement.? When there is a mass unconsciousness, such as there is in our country right now, the political leaders literally get ?dreamed up? to be the embodied outer reflection of this collective inner unconsciousness.
If we refuse to look at our own darkness and continue to try and destroy the evil we perceive to be outside of ourselves, we fall prey to it and unwittingly become an agent of evil. If we fight evil in our habitual way, which is to try and murder it, we ourselves become a murderer. (Interestingly, one of the inner meanings of the word ?Satan? is ?murderer?) By fighting evil we become possessed by it. Is this the meaning of Christ?s teaching ?resist not evil?? It is like in wrestling with the devil, the devil penetrates into our body, pulsates through our very cells and incarnates itself in, through and as us.
To deal with evil as it manifests in the world we have to be able to look at and embrace the evil inside of ourselves. To quote Gandhi, ?The only devils in the world are those running around in our own hearts- that is where the battle should be fought.? If we refuse to look at the evil inside of our own heart, however, our refusal itself just feeds the evil. If we look away and allow evil to get acted out, thinking that we are innocent, we are unconsciously colluding with evil. To quote Dr. Martin Luther King Jr, ?One who passively accepts evil [by allowing it to happen] is as much involved in it as the one who perpetuates it.?
The evil that is playing out in the world today is a deeper, archetypal energy that has been re-enacted many times throughout human history. Yet what is unique about our current situation, to quote Jung, ?is not that present-day man is capable of greater evil than the man of antiquity or the primitive. He merely has incomparably more effective means with which to realize his propensity to evil. As his consciousness has broadened and differentiated, so his moral nature has lagged behind. That is the great problem before us today: Reason alone no longer suffices.? It has become clear that our rationality alone cannot resolve our world crisis, something else is needed. It is like we are at an event horizon in the process of the expansion of consciousness itself. To quote Jung, ?we need the illumination of a holy and whole-making spirit- a spirit that can be anything rather than our reason.?
We are living in an extremely dangerous time, but it is also a time of great opportunity. To quote Jung, ?We are living in what the Greeks called the Kairos- the right moment- for a ?metamorphosis of the gods,? of the fundamental principles and symbols. This peculiarity of our time, which is certainly not of our conscious choosing, is the expression of the unconscious man within us who is changing. Coming generations will have to take account of this momentous transformation if humanity is not to destroy itself through the might of its own technology and science.? The unleashing of atomic energy, Jung continues, ??.has given the human race the power to annihilate itself completely. The situation is about the same as if a small boy of six had been given a bag of dynamite for a birthday present??the danger that threatens us now is of such dimensions as to make this last European catastrophe [World War II] seem like a curtain-raiser.?
To quote Jung, ?For, as long as Satan is not integrated, the world is not healed and man is not saved. But Satan represents evil, and how can evil be integrated? There is only one possibility: to assimilate it, that is to say, raise it to the level of consciousness??[this is a state] in which the devil no longer has an autonomous existence but rejoins the profound unity of the psyche. Then the opus magnum [the ?great work? of alchemy] is finished: the human soul is completely integrated.?
Evil can?t stand to be seen, though, for once it is seen and made conscious it loses its omnipotence and autonomy, as it can no longer act itself out through us. Our task, as Jung reminds us, is ?making the darkness conscious.? As each of us recognizes and integrates our own darker halves, we liberate the energy that was bound up in the compulsion to unconsciously act out and dream up our darker side in the outside world. Instead, this archetypal energy of the shadow gets assimilated into the wholeness of our personality and becomes available for the expression of creativity and love.
We need to understand the nature of the ?beast? we are dealing with when we are confronted with evil. The fact that the way we are dealing with evil is itself the very thing that propagates evil is showing us something. Evil is revealing something to us. This is why Jung refers to Satan as ?the godfather of man as a spiritual being,? by which he means that Satan can activate in humankind a process of spiritual awakening that would have been impossible without his intervention. Similarly, Jung points out that Lucifer was ?necessary and indeed indispensable for the unfolding and completion of the divine drama.? Interestingly, one of the inner meanings of the word ?Satan? is the ?shadow of the Lord.? As Jung points out, ?We like to imagine that God is all light, but St. John of the Cross has the truly psychological notion of the darkness and the seeming remoteness of God as an effect of the divine presence.? In other words, shadows are an expression that light is nearby.
Whether the evil that is wreaking havoc on our planet right now will destroy us or further the evolution of our species and awaken us to deeper levels of our being is totally up to us. The key is if enough of us become the aforementioned moral leaders of humanity and look in the mirror (whose inner meaning is ?shadow holder?), self-reflect and recognize our complicity with the darkness that is playing out in our world. Self-reflection is the very best service we can do for the divine and the highest way for us to love God. Self-reflection is a true retrieval of our soul- it has an integrating effect, as it is a gathering together and a re-collecting of what had previously been projected out, divided and separated by the dis-integrating effect of evil (the inner meaning of the word ?diabolos? is that which separates and divides). To quote Jung, ?Self-reflection or- what comes to the same thing- the urge to individuation gathers together what is scattered and multifarious, and exalts it to the original form of the One, the Primordial Man. In this way our existence as separate beings, our former ego nature, is abolished, the circle of consciousness is widened, and because the paradoxes have been made conscious the sources of conflict are dried up.?
Jung recognized that whenever evil appeared in an individual?s personal process, some deeper good always came out of the experience that wouldn?t have emerged without the manifestation of evil. Could the same thing be true on a collective scale? Could the evil that is coming out of hiding in the shadows and becoming visible for all who have eyes to see be the harbinger of a deeper process of collective realization that is becoming available to us because of its emergence? Jung openly wonders whether ?in this very power of evil God might not have placed some special purpose which it is most important for us to know.?
With the appearance of evil it is like we are invited and even prodded to participate in an evolutionary quantum leap in and of consciousness itself. A doorway has opened up for us to collectively snap out of our imagined identities as ?separate beings? and realize that we are all interconnected, on the same side and part of a greater whole.
The inner meaning of the word apocalypse is ?something hidden being revealed.? We are experiencing the revelation of the hidden God, the deus absconditus, the dark side of God. Will we not recognize what the ?shadow of the Lord? is revealing to us and continue to unconsciously act it out and destroy ourselves? Or will the evil propel enough of us over the edge to self-reflection, precipitating a mass spiritual awakening unimaginable until this moment in history? Evil is a true quantum phenomenon, in that it contains both of these possibilities in potential, and how it will manifest depends on how we interact with it. Fighting the devil is radically different than loving God. The choice is truly ours.
Posted by: BUSH LIES - SOLDIERS DIE at June 28, 2005 02:22 AM (FV4oJ)
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He is now grand master of the church of paul levy and jung.
please don't let him read l ron hubbard next ... please !!!
Posted by: Jonathan at June 28, 2005 03:05 AM (wdVtc)
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Dianetics - the power of CHIMP over Reality
Posted by: BUSH LIES - SOLDIERS DIE at June 28, 2005 03:42 AM (FV4oJ)
Posted by: Pixy Misa at June 28, 2005 05:55 AM (+S1Ft)
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BUSH LIES!! you are one disgusting young ferret, desert-dwelling loser who has no sense of common decency. How much drivel can you expect me to put up with? Either sober, drunk or on drugs - you are a disgrace to the blogging scene and a thug - go back to your cave and wait for your "CHIMPY" in your nightmares. GO AWAY!
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at June 28, 2005 06:02 AM (ScqM8)
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Jaysus on a Pony, and I thought having my comments spammed by "Texas Hold*m" bots was bad!
BL-SD is just trying to bring about a worldwide modern Caliphate and railing against the people who took down his hero Saddam is, at the moment, his only outlet.
Posted by: Darleen at June 28, 2005 08:36 AM (FgfaV)
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OMG! Is that blog (TIWWWB) for real?
Posted by: Oyster at June 28, 2005 08:47 AM (fl6E1)
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Leopold Stotch:'You guys are both retarded; the Constitution died 4/8/1913. [ratification of the 17th Amendment, which effectively eliminated the 10th Amendment]'
Leo,
I'd point to the 16th amendment, authorizing an income tax, as the day our Constitution died. It was never actually ratified. Two people have recently beaten tax evasion charges because the government couldn't prove that the 16th amendment was actually ratified.
'For years, those who have asked for the exact details of the laws underwhich the government takes half our lives have been rebuffed, dmismissed, insulted, harassed, and attacked, everything but answered. Only with the Holocaust does the mere asking of a question draw greater scorn and abuse by those in power. We The People have asked to see the actual bills of ratification of the necessary 3/4 states on the 16th amendment, which reversed the prior Constitutional ban on income taxes. The government refuses, insisting that we simply assume that Secretary of State Philander Knox would not lie about ratification in his letter to Congress (even though Knox scrupulously avoided using the word "ratified" and simply declared the amendment to be "in effect"). The government insists that we assume the laws are what we are told they are, even though (as has now happened in two trials) nobody can actually locate the law in question. ' M. Rivero
Posted by: greg at June 28, 2005 08:58 AM (/+dAV)
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No, it was the 19th Amendmnet.......
Pause.
Smirk.
Wink.
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at June 28, 2005 09:25 AM (JQjhA)
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Bush Lies: 'There's a night-time curfew in Baghdad?'
Yes, the city is under Martial Law. Oh, the joys of liberation!
Posted by: greg at June 28, 2005 09:26 AM (/+dAV)
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Deus absconditus, this chimpy guy sounds interesting.
I think we have to clarify whether a mortal wound equals the date of death, or if we're projecting a date that liberals will actually run in the streets with torches, raping, pillaging and plundering, condoned by the justices.
Posted by: tee bee at June 28, 2005 09:26 AM (q1JHF)
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Oh.
BANNED!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at June 28, 2005 09:27 AM (JQjhA)
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Rusty, the 19th amendment. Women's sufferage?
Posted by: greg at June 28, 2005 09:52 AM (/+dAV)
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yea, B.L.S.D. i can tell you are most def. in need of some counseling for that alchol problem you got there...better lay off that moonshine, boy, youll go blind....freakin goofball....and you talk of truth, sheesh, yea, youre telling the truth but its about what crazy idiots extremists like you and a few others who come here and post long rambling, meaningless drivel filled posts....you related to Fidel Castro or maybe Hugo Chavez?? they both like to ramble on while saying nothing, just like YOU....get a life and try and not watch so many X-File episodes, youll be more fit, mentally that is....
Posted by: THANOS35 at June 28, 2005 09:54 AM (kDAye)
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oh, yea greg, during times of war Martial Law would and should be imposed in a country such as Iraq...there are still TERRORISTS running loose...no, i do not in any way consider those fighting against the American and coalition troops, insurgents or as fat ass Mikey Moore likes to call them, Minute Men...they are TERRORISTS, pure and simple....these curfews are more for the average Iraqi citizens safety and well being as it is for the American soldiers who are conducting the sweeps and patrols...would you be running around on the streets at 2am if you knew that gangs of violent people want to abduct, murder or perhaps sell you into slavery????...if you do, than you got problems and you better hope that an American patrol gets its hands on you first before the terrorists do as they have no respect for whatever religion you are.....im sure, if you have a good reason for being out that time of nite, the patrols have ways to get info, and no, i dont mean beating it out of you as i sense you would say that....i mean in getting in touv=ch with the authorties or a HQ...Curfews are the best way to weed out the criminal element from the innocent just doing an errand or a job...so in a way, yea, it is freedom for the average Iraqi citizen...freedom from the terrorists who really want to impose a brutal regime that will make the imposed curfew look like nothing more than a slight inconveniance...its just like when the State Troopers or local County or town police set up a DWI stop...yea, its a pain, but compared to being run over and killed by some drunk driving asshole, ill gladly put up with it, and in fact i support such actions...it gets those who break the laws off the roads and in jail where they cant ruin the day for some innocents...look at it the same way in Iraq
Posted by: THANOS35 at June 28, 2005 10:27 AM (kDAye)
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Thanos35;'im sure, if you have a good reason for being out that time of nite, the patrols have ways to get info, and no, i dont mean beating it out of you as i sense you would say that.'
Thanos,
If you're out past the curfew, they shoot you dead. HELLO! Anybody home?
Posted by: greg at June 28, 2005 10:42 AM (/+dAV)
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Rusty or Greg...do you have some links you'd recommend on the whole tax amendment thing you mentioned? Carlos...you heard of this?
Posted by: osamabeenhiding at June 28, 2005 10:55 AM (huFN9)
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do you know that for sure greg???....youre saying that the American troops shoot you on sight without giving you a warning first????....youre presuming alot right there and youre supposing that our troops are shooting without prevocation and are killing innocents...this is war and thay have to have ways to tell one another apart...passwords or some other sort of way...yea, im sure if you shoot at them they will fire back in self defense, but if youre strolling down the street they are going to have you identify youreself or risk being shot on.....see, by you saying that they will just shoot you offhand, you are making it easier for me to see as one who would go out and shout from the rooftop that the American troops are shooting at every Iraqi without reason...thank you for telling me the truth about you, greg...yea, you REALLY support the American troops, dont ya??....fool
Posted by: THANOS35 at June 28, 2005 10:55 AM (kDAye)
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Thanos,
Under Martial Law, if you're out past the curfew, you get shot. Do you not understand Martial Law?
Posted by: greg at June 28, 2005 11:13 AM (/+dAV)
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Osama,
It's quite true about the 16th amendment not being ratified. The IRS has repeatedly failed to respond to inquiries on the subject. They have also quietly withdrawn tax evasion charges against those who invoke a 'there was no ratification defense'.
I won't provide links because I don't want to piss Rusty off. But google, 16th amendment ratification.
Posted by: greg at June 28, 2005 11:39 AM (/+dAV)
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Aight. But tell me this...since I haven't researched it yet, how come this isn't HUGE news? I would imagine if everyone knew this everyone would be hoarding and the "gubbamint" would be freaking.
Posted by: osamabeenvotin' at June 28, 2005 12:31 PM (huFN9)
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and greg, youre still not getting what i said....youre are supposing that the US troops will shoot ANYONE, ANYONE at all without having them identify themselves first....just because they have imposed a curfew doesnt mean that they have imposed a Shoot on sight order...think a little.....youd love it to read about an American patrol shooting an Iraqi citizen trying to get over to their familys house and he wasnt given a warning first before he/she was shot, wouldnt ya??...so you could continue screaming youre Anti-American drivel....maybe the Chinese or Russians would shoot first without warning first, but American troops, being under attack by the MSM as being brutal, would attempt to identify the person/persons first before opening fire....youre as funny and as goofy as B.L.S.D. go sit in the corner now
Posted by: THANOS35 at June 28, 2005 12:44 PM (kDAye)
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Osama:'Aight. But tell me this...since I haven't researched it yet, how come this isn't HUGE news? '
Are you joking? Don't you understand how the country works? The MSM has become a branch of the US government.
Posted by: greg at June 28, 2005 12:52 PM (/+dAV)
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OMMFG!!!!....greg, you should have an HBO comedy special!!!..youre one funny mfer, lemme tell ya.....another George Carlin is born right here on The Jawa Report.....pardon me while i wipe Coca-Cola off my keyboards after reading that post from greg
Posted by: THANOS35 at June 28, 2005 01:10 PM (kDAye)
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Hi Greg,
I might not be a rocket scientist, but one would assume one way to not get shot in times that martial law is enacted, is to obey what it demands.
I don't believe that it's secret that the curfew is in place either, and from the footage they ran most curfew violators are given a nice set of flexi-cuffs and sent back for questioning.
Posted by: dave at June 28, 2005 01:25 PM (fsJ2z)
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thank you dave....greg was assuming that ANY and ALL violaters of the curfew would be shot on sight, which is something i think he would like to see happen, as it would give himself and the MSM more to scream and rant about.....
Posted by: THANOS35 at June 28, 2005 02:05 PM (kDAye)
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The wacko bush lies has completely lost control. Rusty?
Posted by: The main man's daughter at June 29, 2005 11:42 PM (CBNGy)
Do-it Yourself Fatwah Festival
Have an interesting link? Want me to issue a fatwa against you? Send a trackback here. Ok, so it's not an Instalanche, but it might get you a little notice. Plus, remember that part of the secret of Goolge hits is to have incoming links. A trackback sent here shows up as a link to you. Win-win.
Plus, I just don't have time to link any one today. So check out the fatwas below.
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YBP: it appears you may be over quota on your email.
Posted by: Howie at June 27, 2005 12:15 PM (D3+20)
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Thanks, Howie. I'll take care of it.
The hate mail really builds up.
:>)
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at June 27, 2005 01:16 PM (x+5JB)
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More of the same. Who cares?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050627/pl_afp/pakistanusafghanistan_050627142105
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at June 27, 2005 01:22 PM (x+5JB)
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How about Morgan Spurlock's conclusion already scripted for his '30 days' as a Muslim :
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2005/06/morgan_spurlock.html
http://www.opinionjournal.com/taste/?id=110006868
Conclusion:
"No, the producers told me. "Morgan wants the show to demonstrate to America that we are Islamophobic and that 9/11's biggest victims are Muslims."
Also check out the caliber of the people associated with instruction of 'Islam' in the show.
Posted by: dave at June 27, 2005 01:36 PM (fsJ2z)
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Dave: I read Debbie Schlussel's post and had to comment myself. Thanks to the Internet, this kind of propaganda can be countered somewhat before it hits the general public. It's really shameful what they call a "documentary" anymore. Michael Moore's entire staff is in on this one. And CAIR? Sheesh. Greg ought to lap this one up with a big spoon.
Posted by: Oyster at June 27, 2005 02:27 PM (fl6E1)
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What do you think about this, vets?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050627/ap_on_re_us/unearned_medal
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at June 27, 2005 02:31 PM (x+5JB)
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Quote of the day.
"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. '
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
Posted by: greg at June 27, 2005 03:28 PM (/+dAV)
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Oyster,
I was pretty disappointed to read that they're scripted to reach the conclusion of the point he wants to make. After watching the 'life on minimum wage' show I thought it was well presented and hit home. However it brings into question now, how much was scripted for the agenda ? were the emergency room visits scripted to show an agenda? etc.
Now he's saying the real victims in 9/11 were the Muslims? outrageous - I am sure he will not say that on the show however, that will be just the conclusion he wants you to reach.
Posted by: dave at June 27, 2005 03:46 PM (fsJ2z)
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Rumsfeld pointed out, on Fox News, that "insurgencies tend to go on five, six, eight, 10, 12 years."
Which is it Rummy? 5, 6, 8, 10, 12 or more years? Can the Iraqis fight their own damn war or must we stay another 12 plus years?
Posted by: greg at June 27, 2005 03:50 PM (/+dAV)
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US acknowledges torture at Guantanamo; in Iraq, Afghanistan - UN
06.24.2005, 11:37 AM
‘GENEVA (AFX) - Washington has, for the first time, acknowledged to the United Nations that prisoners have been tortured at US detention centres in Guantanamo Bay, as well as Afghanistan and Iraq, a UN source said.
The acknowledgement was made in a report submitted to the UN Committee against Torture, said a member of the ten-person panel, speaking on on condition of anonymity.
'They are no longer trying to duck this and have respected their obligation to inform the UN,' the Committee member said.
'They they will have to explain themselves (to the Committee). Nothing should be kept in the dark,' he said.
UN sources said this is the first time the world body has received such a frank statement on torture from US authorities.Â’
http://www.forbes.com/work/feeds/afx/2005/06/24/afx2110388.html
OK, no more bullshitting. We have now acknowledged that we have tortured people in Guantanamo and in Afghanistan and in Iraq.
Posted by: greg at June 27, 2005 04:49 PM (/+dAV)
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Nice tee-shirt banner add. If I see someone wearing that should I take it to understand the he or she would like to be tasered, dragged to my basement and beaten? Not tortured of course- just some light beatings that wont result in death- unless I get a little carried away. Would be happy to do so to any nitwit idiotic enough to wear one. Of course if they have taken the time to make sure it was color co-ordinated with thier WWJD braclet, I might let them walk on by.
Posted by: Max at June 27, 2005 05:36 PM (HFKAk)
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just follow my link below ... have composed a Rove "apology", etc.
Posted by: Jonathan at June 27, 2005 05:40 PM (wdVtc)
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Maxwell, young man, where do you get off talking like that - threatening people who wear T-shirts. You are an uncultured urban ruffian who needs to learn some manners.
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at June 28, 2005 07:18 AM (ScqM8)
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Venom:'In the meantime, everyone can do their bit to make the U.S. a safer place by enrolling in UConn for a degree in homeland security:'
Venom,
I'm already schooled in the wonders of duct tape.
Posted by: greg at June 28, 2005 08:09 AM (/+dAV)
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Dave & Oyster...Morgan Spurlock has nothing on the scripted radio and TV "news" that our taxpayer dollars paid for, courtesy of our current administration. I guess FOX wasn't good enough for Bushie?
Posted by: osamabeenhiding at June 28, 2005 11:12 AM (huFN9)
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osama,
how is that again? I hear nothing on the news but futility in Iraq, Gitmo torture, Abu Gharab references, Downing street Memo etc.
Posted by: dave at June 28, 2005 03:05 PM (fsJ2z)
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Dave...exactly. FOX news ain't cuttin' it for Bushie. That's why there has been govt. funded (by our tax dollars) to create what is essentially propaganda. Did you not hear about this? There were "newscasts" which weren't news promoting Bush's agenda where the speaker would sign off as "so and so reporting..." and they also paid off a big radio guy as well as a few others to promote Bush. It's no moon-bat claim either, Bush actually publicly disapproved what was going on later, but I think he had to rather than let it get blown up worse.
Posted by: osamabeenhiding at June 29, 2005 12:34 PM (huFN9)
Is that a RINO in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?
The first edition of the RINO Sightings festival is up. Fatwas forthcoming.......
For those that care, I'm around. I've been chained to my computer in the fetal position by my editor and he's threatened to turn the air way up and begin playing Christina Aguilera's Genie in a Bottle at 20 decibels above legal if I don't crank out 5 pages a day. Torture indeed.
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Cool dude, you're getting it done. Im impressed. I must be a killer to write a book. Kudos to you.
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Cool dude, you're getting it done. Im impressed. It must be a killer to write a book. Kudos to you.
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kind of like stuttering when you press the post button twice
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