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September 09, 2006

Blogger Faces Return to Tolerant Pakistan

Say you were from Pakistan. Say you came to Canada and became a blogger speaking out against Islamic terror. Say Canada might send you back to Pakistan. Would you be say, "a bit worried", about the attachment of your head to the rest of you? Say you blog with Mushiloon? Does that result in an automatic link from The Jawa Report?

Via Michael van der Galien at Liberty and Justice: As all of you who have read (some of) his articles will know, Isaac is very critical about radical Islam. He witnessed the results of a culture of radical Islam, he saw the effects of this ideology of hatred and ignorance, how people are forced to live, first-hand. As a result, he understands that Muslim extremists do not just pose a threat to the West, but also to every single person living in 'Muslim countries'.
As a result, it should be obvious to anyone with any basic knowledge about this subject, it is not exactly safe for him, an apostate, to live in a country in which Muslim extremists have quite some power. He came from Pakistan, was educated in Saudi Arabia, later in the United States and now lives in Canada.
He is currently involved in the battle of his life: in January 2007 one judge will decide whether he should be granted refugee status in Canada or be deported to Pakistan.

You bet youÂ’re a$$ it does. To Liberty and Justice co-blogger Isaac Schrodinger click here NOW.

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June 12, 2006

I Think This Would Be A Good Place For Lunch

Courtesy of my high-powered super-duper Jack Bauer phone: more...

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June 07, 2006

Radical Islam in Mexico

Disturbing report by the ISN on the growth of Islam south of the border. I would be more frightened by it if I did not know that there is a much larger threat of home-grown Islamists here in the United States, than in Mexico. But still, the threat is real.

The ISN report tends to whitewash the rise of Islam in Mexico, citing lack of evidence of Muslim groups their to violent jihad. However, as we have said for a long time now, the threat is not just from jihadis committed to violence but to those who advocate the same goals as jihadis, even if they wish to pursue those goals non-violently. That goal, Sharia law and the Caliphate, is every bit as dangerous and evil as Communism was and must be fought with the same vigor.

In the same way that wherever Marxism has gone, political oppression followed, so to wherever Islam goes, radicalism must inevetably follow, since the core text of Islam, the Koran, advocates both violent jihad and the institution of Islamic law.

Here are some of the highlights from the ISN report. First, a this on an Islamic group with links to Nazi apologists: more...

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1 I've been waiting for someone to say something about this. How many countries in the world have we heard from or about where some terror cell has been routed out and the participators either disbanded or arrested or at least heard of an acknowledgement of their prescence? Lots and lots, huh? Hardly a nation has been spared. Have we heard one single word - even the merest utterance - of any radical Islamic activity or groups in Mexico? I'm listening ... what? Nothing? One of two things is happening. Either the Mexican government is handling it silently or they're not doing anything at all. Which do you want to bet it is? And guess who they share a border with - Oh, the US! They're working so hard to get their citizens across the the border into the US they don't care who goes across with them.

Posted by: Oyster at June 07, 2006 05:30 PM (YudAC)

2 Isn't Dick Morris down there trying to help Calderon win and stop some of this nonsensicle BS?

Posted by: War Horse 6 at June 07, 2006 05:39 PM (29xN5)

3 Well said Rusty, well said. These islamics that sit and wait need the same condemation as the ones actively participating in terrorism today.

Posted by: greyrooster at June 07, 2006 06:09 PM (di2KJ)

4 It's amazing when you think about it. Here we are with a wide open border and our govt. can't seem to figure out that it would be a great place for terrorists to quietly slither through. We've acknowledged that islamists aren't stupid. They've probably had cells crossing though mexico for years. I'm sure it wouldn't take much in the way of "compensation" to get the mexican govt. to look the other way.

Posted by: Richard at June 07, 2006 09:35 PM (7KF8r)

5 Er Rusty? I read that entire ISN report - especially the conclusion - there seems to be a disconnect here. My only difference with the report is the often made statement that islam is the world's fastest growing religion (according to the report - by intermarrige and conversion.) It is not by those reasons! Pure and simple - it is extremely high birthrates solely!

Posted by: hondo at June 07, 2006 10:07 PM (el7nZ)

6 >>>That goal, Sharia law and the Caliphate, is every bit as dangerous and evil as Communism was and must be fought with the same vigor.<<< Yep, it is ever bit as real or fake a threat as Communism was/is.

Posted by: iGNORANT jACKOFF at June 08, 2006 02:57 PM (ZucvC)

7 I knew it i knew it there will be AL QUEDA terrorist comming across the border with the illegal aleins and VINCENTE FOX should jump in the pacific ocean

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May 23, 2006

President Vicente Fox Visits Utah

(Salt Lake City) Mexican President Vicente Fox arrived in Utah earlier today on the first day of a three-day, three-state tour of the United States. Fox was greeted by Gov. Jon Huntsman Jr., first lady Mary Kaye Huntsman and local leaders. A dinner is planned for Fox at the governor's mansion this evening.

Fox's itinerary also includes visits to the states of Washington and California.

Tomorrow, Fox is scheduled to address the Utah Legislature prior to a noon departure. It is speculated that Fox will direct the lawmakers to implement measures which facilitate a timely Mexican takeover of the entire western United States.

Or, maybe he'll talk about something else.

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1 Because, gorsh, all mexican immigrants, legal and illegal, must be loyal first to Mexico and wish for the western United States to become just like the place they left for their very survival.

Posted by: MiB at May 23, 2006 04:30 PM (B9sDR)

2 Christ, I don't care as long as he actually LEAVES after he gives his speeches. We have enough unskilled Mexicans without this moron politician.

Posted by: Thrill at May 23, 2006 06:08 PM (DYb4r)

3 Who's this "we" stuff, Thrill? Apparently American employers don't seem to be included in it.

Posted by: MiB at May 23, 2006 06:33 PM (B9sDR)

4 Well, I'll agree with you on that one. Everyone, boycott Tyson Foods!

Posted by: Thrill at May 23, 2006 07:18 PM (DYb4r)

5 If he goes to the hospital, will the American tax payer pay for his stay also?

Posted by: Leatherneck at May 23, 2006 07:38 PM (D2g/j)

6 God not are we getting illegal aleins but the outlaw leader of a outlaw nation now dictating how we will be formed into one big nation the nation of bigger mexico why done he dare come to a nation where he is consitered a outlaw?

Posted by: sandpiper at May 23, 2006 09:59 PM (K3hNB)

7 Here's what's happening on the Left Coast. Theodore R. Kulongoski Governor NEWS ADVISORY FOR NEWS PLANNING May 23, 2006 Contact: Lonn Hoklin, 503.559.1034 Information on Obtaining Press Credentials for President Fox and Kulongoski Meeting Tomorrow (Wednesday, May 24, 2006) What: Governor Kulongoski to meet with President Vicente Fox Where: Yakima Air Terminal, McAllister Field in Yakima Media parking in employee parking lot. Media access gate and check in: Directed on-site. When: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 2:45 pm Â– meeting 3:45 pm Â– media availability Note: Governor Gregoire of Washington and President Fox will be departing the Yakima airport at approximately 3:30 pm; Governor Kulongoski will be available for media questions after their departure. Credential Contact: Please call Governor GregoireÂ’s office by 9:00 a.m. tomorrow morning (5/24) at 360.902.4136 Check-in Instructions: 10:30 a.m. - 12:00 p.m. - TV satellite/microwave trucks and other media with equipment (e.g. cameras, radio equipment) arrive at the employee parking lot (directly in front of airport administration building) at McAllister Air Field in Yakima. This early arrival is required to stage equipment for screening by security. 10:30 a.m. - 12:00 p.m. - Print media arrive at McAllister Air Field in Yakima Note: Print media should only bring a notepad, pen, and cell phone (no extra bags, cameras, or other equipment). - 30 -

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May 16, 2006

Bush Speech - Calling A Spade A Spork

Last night, President Bush tightroped his words outlining a plan for securing the U.S-Mexico border. In essence, the U.S. won't build a fence, and they will come. Two key elements struck me.

One is that the border will not be secured. Instead, the U.S. will allocate resources for the National Guard to assist the Border Patrol to monitor and document trespassers better. With better surveillance using high-technology devices, more illegal aliens will be caught, and more will be sent back. Unfortunately, the plan doesn't stop people from sneaking into the U.S., it only catches more of them after they have entered. So, rather than fixing the leaky boat, we're just going to employ more bailers.

Secondly, it appears that President Bush has gone to school and learned a technique from the mainstream media. The MSM frequently alters the English language to promote their political agenda and have flooded the public with such terminology as "undocumented workers" versus "illegal aliens" and "militants" versus "terrorists." Now, President Bush proposes to pardon millions of illegal aliens and implement a citizenship program and somehow not call it "amnesty." Instead, it's "rational middle ground." Despite President Bush mouthing "rational middle ground," I suspect that millions of people south of the border heard "amnesty." They are likely packing now.

Yes, the stuck bops with President Bush and he has boldly called a spade a spork.

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1 Do you hear that? Its the sound of victory for the illegals and their supporters. Oh yes.

Posted by: MiB at May 16, 2006 04:31 AM (XuEw/)

2 My liberal President has obviously bought into the "big lie" social psychology theory. In essence if you tell a lie over and over people will soon believe it is true. This is the umpteenth time he has told us his amnesty plan for criminals is not an amnesty plan in the last 7 weeks. He is still telling us a lie and few of us are thinking his lie is true. What he is doing is driving the Reagan people out of the GOP much like his father did 15 years ago. Bush's still have not got over losing the primary to a conservative in 1980. BTW a a full disclosure I think little of Social Psychologists. I am biased.

Posted by: Rod Stanton at May 16, 2006 05:40 AM (3tr7F)

3 Here is what I heard. If someone invades your home, eats your food, and demands title to the property since his ancestors lived there once; you roll over and give it to them. I also heard loud and clear that we are really NOT at war with terrorists. If we were then militarizing the southern border regions would be a no brainer.

Posted by: NOTR at May 16, 2006 06:49 AM (izx0t)

4 The government believes that Mexicans have a right to live in America, but Jews are forbidden to live in most of their holyland. We will all suffer a cruel fate for this.

Posted by: Steve Sharon at May 16, 2006 08:42 AM (N6m/K)

5 And to think that I voted for this left winger in 04! Well actually JFK would not have been any better; but I am no longer so sure. Bush tells one lie after another. I no longer trust him on anything!

Posted by: Jo macDougal at May 16, 2006 09:37 AM (UHmpM)

6 GWB context: voted for him twice. family context: My extended fam includes all the major food groups and "races", Heinz iow. Back when Reagan & Congress squished on the first 6 mil [+ -] my blood temp started to rise... I was so POed I wrote way way poorly written essays [but sincere as f'ing hell] and sent them to my extended family and newspapers all over the world. [fam thought I was totally wac] The writers in my clan btw, enjoyed them immensely and are still getting extended mileage out of them today. W plan item: How are they gonna do background checks of all the illegal applicators for "DA CARD"? Mexican records and docs? Finger print records for previous bust records here in the states? prediction: After the f'ing Senate gets done squishing the squishy W plan and after the F'ing lawyers sue the livin salsa out of the result, the Illegal Immigration Burrito Machine will still be farting up a storm. que the blood is now f'ing boiling pic, chup mi pendejos

Posted by: Rubin at May 16, 2006 09:38 AM (q2hzh)

7 Meet Fox and Bush

Posted by: Aaron's cc: at May 16, 2006 09:39 AM (ov6Vw)

8 cue chupa

Posted by: Rubin at May 16, 2006 09:50 AM (q2hzh)

9 Also, this whole reconquista idea that Mexicans have rights to California because we stole California from Mexico does not hold up. In 1840 (when we won the war which gave us California) California looked alot like Mexico. Barren. So even if you think we "stole" California - the California of today - the industry, jobs, schools, hospitals etc. did not exist back then - and this is what the Mexicans want - not more barren land.

Posted by: Heroic Dreamer at May 16, 2006 10:19 AM (aH6Zf)

10 I think it's almost time for the Democrats, and the MSM to declare victory -- after all they have taken two issues, and applied so much spin to it most conservatives think that not voting in the next election will "punish" the Republican party. I see a lot of "news" about open borders without any data backing up the claim that Bush's term has an influx of illegal immigrants, they publish costs per state for illegal immigrants [unadjusted for inflation, and without comparison of previous years] so now two issues that have non-stop negative press in the MSM (Gas prices, and Mexican border) have rose to such a crescendo that Conservatives are turning in on themselves, with infighting that the Democrats are famous for. The Democrats have neatly packaged security + borders (Wasn't the last arrested Terrorist coming in through Canada?) and the MSM have pitched it for over a year now, I have seen nonstop talk of punishing the Republicans by not voting, or voting Democrat in the next Election, what a great victory for the MSM/Democrats.

Posted by: davec at May 16, 2006 10:20 AM (CcXvt)

11 >>>because we stole California from Mexico And the Mexicans stole it from the prior owners, so it's one thief judging another thief.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at May 16, 2006 10:43 AM (8e/V4)

12 Please get rid of the asshole. Take a course on character judgement before the next Presidential election.

Posted by: Last gasp Larry at May 16, 2006 11:17 AM (FCC6c)

13 Larry, character isn't the issue, choice is. And in this case the choice is between a conservative-lite Republican vs a socialist Democrat. The choice is pretty clear.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at May 16, 2006 11:22 AM (8e/V4)

14 Everyone note ... Larry (like others like him) is an anti-Bush lib/left Dem - you all know where they stand (or wiggle/wobble) reference the immigration thing ... Totally expect them to jump into this as against ... its a tomato/tomatoe kind of thing ... nothing else ... he is irrelevant.

Posted by: hondo at May 16, 2006 12:32 PM (SeBrl)

15 Boy, you got that right, Hondo. I can only imagine LGL bouncing in his chair and clapping his hands with glee everytime someone says they disagree with Bush on anything. If you ever had an opportunity to read his swill on Kevin Sites' blog, sometimes times as many as five and six comments in a row, blathering on about McChimpybushhitler. It's really quite impressive - in a rubbernecker-staring-at-a-car-wreck kinda way.

Posted by: Oyster at May 16, 2006 01:11 PM (ASk6Y)

16 Yep! Oyster, I'm just waiting for you to join the ranks of the 71% remaining who are blessed with good judgement so we can have our last laugh together. However, I know you will hang on to the bitter end in the face of defeat because that is what thick people do... Jesus! If you want to vote in an idiot just to avoid a Democratic there's not much I can do beyond giving Katherine Harris a call.

Posted by: Last gasp Larry at May 16, 2006 01:31 PM (FCC6c)

17 71% and 2 dollars will get you on the NY subway - ask john ryan what that means. Only "poll" that counts is taken on the first Tueday of November '06/'08 ... see you there. Oh - at the moment I am part of that 71% (don't have an orgasm yet) ... you seem to believe that if 71% of the people have disappointments or complaints about Bush ... then they must automatically agree with you ..... now that's funny! ... and one of the big reasons why you continually come up short ... you actually believe your own BS.

Posted by: hondo at May 16, 2006 01:49 PM (SeBrl)

18 Hey guys, the socialists just called. They want to thank the Republicans for voting their way in '04.

Posted by: MiB at May 16, 2006 02:15 PM (Uesws)

19 Another classic example.

Posted by: hondo at May 16, 2006 02:22 PM (SeBrl)

20 That Bush is a feelgood socialist and you guys thought he would be significantly different from Kerry? Yes, it is.

Posted by: MiB at May 16, 2006 03:12 PM (Uesws)

21 He is not a socalist, he is a CFR member, and their agenda is 10 economic regions across the globe. This last nation state must be weakened for that to happen. We are being attacked on many fronts. Debt ceiling is at 9 trillion dollers, the Federal Resurve controls the money, not Congress, and the Federal Reserve does not answer to anyone but themselves. Child sacrifice, (abortion), same sex marraige, child sex, Christianity as hate speech, untaxed income going south to the tune of 70 billion a year, welfare programs increasing, Hospitals closing due to unpaid illegal alien ER vists, the U.N. etc... It smells like a conspiracy to me. But, this is just one man writing.

Posted by: Leatherneck at May 16, 2006 04:07 PM (D2g/j)

22 " Satan laughing spreads his wings "

Posted by: Last gasp Larry at May 16, 2006 04:28 PM (FCC6c)

23 >>>Oyster, I'm just waiting for you to join the ranks of the 71% remaining who are blessed with good judgement so we can have our last laugh together. Larry, I wouldn't put too much Liberal stock in those numbers. They primarily reflect the fact that Bush's conservative base is leaving him BECAUSE HE ISN'T CONSERVATIVE ENOUGH. That should give him kudos in your Liberal book---but it doesn't because bushitler hatred knows no rhyme nor reason. If bushitler hatred made any sense, our reasons for disliking Bush should be your reasons for liking him...if bushitler hatred made any sense.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at May 17, 2006 12:38 AM (8e/V4)

24 >>>Jesus! If you want to vote in an idiot just to avoid a Democratic there's not much I can do beyond giving Katherine Harris a call. Larry, that one's easy. I would vote for an idiot, a retard, and even a box of rocks before I'd vote for a Liberal. That goes without saying.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at May 17, 2006 12:40 AM (8e/V4)

25 You get what you pay for ...

Posted by: Last gasp Larry at May 17, 2006 01:18 AM (FCC6c)

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May 02, 2006

Dear Congresscritter

Just wanted to let you know that Ã‚Â±280,000,000 legal American citizens did not march in the streets demanding open borders and amnesty for illegal immigrants.

Just about the same number didn't march in the streets claiming that Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California, and Colorado still belong to Mexico.

Thanks for not listening,

- Vinnie

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1 And while their not listening to that maybe they won't listen to this either. Once one makes the decision to come into this country illegally, they become a criminal. Everything they do after that is tainted by that one fact. When they pay their taxes with their fake Soc. Sec. number thats a crime. When they put their children in school thats a crime, as is when they get a drivers license, get married, divorced or disabled. Illegal immigrants are criminals. It is time we started treating them like it. It is also time we understand that these illegals and their supporters don't care about our laws. They didn't care about them when they entered the country illegally and the will ignore and avoid them as long as they are allowed to.

Posted by: seanmahair at May 02, 2006 11:32 PM (Pncyg)

2 Hey Vinnie, mind if I use that?

Posted by: Oyster at May 03, 2006 04:27 AM (YudAC)

3 In these United States thiy is the Executive branch that is tasked with enforcing the laws that are made by the Legislative branch.

Posted by: john Ryan at May 03, 2006 04:52 AM (TcoRJ)

4 As a man whose family has been in Cal for 200 years I agree America stole California. But J. Knox Polk stole it from Russia in 1847. He did not steal it from Mexico. Cal was a Russian colony in 1811 when my family sailed around the Horn from Boston. Russia stole Cal from *France* in the 18th century. Nobody stole it from Mexico!

Posted by: Rod Stanton at May 03, 2006 05:07 AM (A+A3B)

5 Our nation's downward spiral continues in pick up speed, and where is our government? Stuffing their bags with everything they can steal, as usual. It's time for a housecleaning. It's time for We the People to get serious about whether or not we want to keep our country, and how we're going to go about it. Elections won't work because politicians are all whores who would sell anything to anyone for a vote, and besides, the system is rigged against an honest person ever winning office. At this rate, within five years our nation will be fractured and parts of it will be out of the control of the corrupt, impotent, and incompetent Federal government, while other parts will be muslim enclaves where terrorists freely live and play without fear of reprisal. Anyone who isn't prepared to fight should either leave or accept the idea that being an American no longer means anything and welcome their new masters with open arms, learn Spanish, and convert to islam. Or you could pick up a gun and fight for what is yours.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at May 03, 2006 05:40 AM (0yYS2)

6 I marched, I was the one wearing the -- REMEMBER THE ALAMO T-shirt (snicker snicker)

Posted by: Rodney Dill at May 03, 2006 05:45 AM (6zCyl)

7 I resent the assertion that all of the people who marched for illegal immigrant amnesty/rights, were also with this crazy atzlan crowd. I know its a lot to ask of a fearmongering xenophobe, but please do not attempt to incorrectly stereotype the people involved in the marches, protests and supporting the illegal immigrant cause. Lastly: Welcome to democracy. The majority decides nothing; the vocal, agitated minority decides everything. I guess no one told you about that part in school.

Posted by: MiB at May 03, 2006 05:49 AM (5kwsD)

8 Sure thing, Oyster.

Posted by: Vinnie at May 03, 2006 05:51 AM (/qy9A)

9 People with weak arguments alway label the opposing side as being motiviated by fear or phobia'a or hysteria. You can be against illegal aliens/immigrants coming to this country due to economic, cultural, or social impact concerns without fear being involved. As soon as the 'fear' card is laid on the table you can be sure that someone is trying to bolster their argument through emotional means. As far as the vocal minority being in charge. The statement is a little jaded, but also a little too close to the truth at times

Posted by: Rodney Dill at May 03, 2006 06:18 AM (6zCyl)

10 Ever notice that that the words 'immigrant' and 'militant' are the msm's favorite words? Did you also notice the similarities of the behavior of 'immigrants' and 'militants. Today they march, tomorrow they attack.

Posted by: n.a. palm at May 03, 2006 07:33 AM (REygf)

11 I support Selma Hayek's right to be here. Not the rest of them ...

Posted by: tuffbeingright at May 03, 2006 08:05 AM (6pAmW)

12 I'm supporting the Minutemanhq.com with money and labor to build the fence. If you go to their web site they will send email to our Congress for you (for a fee.) A partially built fence is one huge step towards a completed fence. I think the new open drug policy being adopted in Mexico will seriously push any undecided towards adoption of a real fence. Afterall, good fences make good neighbors. IM - it's not that bad. have a little faith.

Posted by: Heroic Dreamer at May 03, 2006 08:54 AM (aH6Zf)

13 I'm looking forward to the next " immigrant " march. I noticed too how the media seems to deliberately leave out the " illegal " part. I took a little mini-vacation to celebrate and noticed hispanics working as waiters and room cleaners at the motel I was staying. Monday on my return home I noticed white, caucasions were doing the dirty work. As I drove home I saw again white, caucasions doing yardwork. As before, I'm sure a lot of these dumb illegals who probably lost their jobs would have done best for themselves by just keeping quiet! Now what are they to do? Illegal stranger in a strange land with no job? You do the math!

Posted by: Last gasp Larry at May 03, 2006 10:41 AM (FCC6c)

14 Have a little faith? Tell that to the women who was gang raped by illegal aliens, or the police office who was shot in Denver by an llegal alien, and the list goes on. President Bush did nothing when so many illegal aliens were out in the open. Why? Yes, I have faith. I have faith in myself, my weapons, and dry ammo.

Posted by: Leatherneck at May 03, 2006 01:50 PM (D2g/j)

15 Why you ask? Bush is a pathetic loser, that's why!

Posted by: Last gasp Larry at May 07, 2006 07:03 AM (FCC6c)

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April 30, 2006

Finish The Sentence

Since the much ballyhooed "Day without (illegal) immigrants" is now upon us, let's have some fun with it.

Finish this sentence:

A day without illegal immigrants is like a day without...

Related: Professor Chaos calls for Make Your Own Taco Day II.

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April 24, 2006

It's Not Fair to Pick on Men Named Mohammed!

So a dude named Mohammed is pissed because it's taking his Visa a little longer to process than Brits with names like "Cecille" & "Roderick"? Fascists. People with the name Mohammed are no more likely to commit acts of terrorism than any one else, right?

Manchester Evening News:

A YOUNG Muslim fears his dream trip to America is threatened after US officials forced him to undergo extra security checks - because his name includes "Mohammed".
Umar Khan, 22, a student from Didsbury, was made to fork out Ã‚Â£50 more than everyone else to have prints taken of all his fingers and checked with a terrorist database in Washington.
Umar - whose full name is Mohammed Umar Haleem Khan - is still waiting to hear if he will get his visa and fears he may now have to cancel his trip to work at a Camp America project in Pennsylvania....
"I feel completely discriminated against," Umar said. "I was supposed to be going on June 20 but if I don't get the visa soon I will have to do something else."

Mucho kudos to Flea, again.

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1 Mohammed? Get the hell over it and STFU!

Posted by: Dick at April 24, 2006 05:05 PM (XlQVK)

2 Wow, I guess it sucks to be my cousin then...because his name is Mohammed Mohammed. Bummer

Posted by: fantasy fan at April 24, 2006 05:26 PM (rjg51)

3 Finger prints, pictures, what a great idea. Again, why does he want to come to America?

Posted by: Leatherneck at April 24, 2006 05:29 PM (D2g/j)

4 Mohammed, I get that shit all the time.

Posted by: Lee Harvey Oswald at April 24, 2006 05:40 PM (QT5fX)

5 lol, Lee!

Posted by: Oyster at April 24, 2006 06:35 PM (YudAC)

6 Wow, the ignorance of everyone posting here amazes me. I'd give a long lecture about how there have been far more Christian terrorists than Muslim ones (you just choose not to label Christians who have bombed places and killed people as terrorists), how Islam teaches peace, etc., but I doubt it would have any effect. If the facts don't fit your beliefs, people like you will just throw out the facts. George W. Bush has repeatedly demonstrated this. By the way, I'm not Muslim. I just happen not to have a single-digit IQ, so I realize that the way they are stereotyped is horribly off target.

Posted by: mike at April 24, 2006 10:10 PM (z9W53)

7 So Mike. How many Christian terrorists blew up people today? Yesterday? The past decade? STFU. You have school tomorrow. Go to bed!!!!

Posted by: REMF at April 24, 2006 10:46 PM (7RMSi)

8 How do you know it's the religion of Peace, Mike -- did CNN tell ya so? or was it the whole "Islam means peace" Taqiya they gave you. You might not be a Muslim, but you sure are a Muppet.

Posted by: davec at April 25, 2006 12:04 AM (CcXvt)

9 My (Chinese) girlfriend just had her visa application rejected, also after being fingerprinted, and after I paid $150 or thereabouts in processing fees. But the consulate told me I was welcome to try again! So, forgive me if I'm having trouble working up much sympathy for ol' Mo there.

Posted by: The Unabrewer at April 25, 2006 01:37 AM (CDwI3)

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April 15, 2006

Mexicans Declare 'Nothing Gringo Day'

May 1st has been dubbed "A Day Without Immigrants" for the U.S. and, presumably, many illegal aliens will stay home from work to show the American public that trespassers from Mexico are indispensable. To coincide with the illegals playing hooky in the U.S., Mexican unions, political groups, media and government offices have called for a boycott of all American companies in Mexico.

Dubbed "Nothing Gringo Day," the intent is to discourage all Mexicans from conducting business with any American company on May 1st, ostensibly to harm sales and demonstrate the influence of a cross-border Mexican power-lobby. Paradoxically, the campaign to hurt American businesses south of the border targets the illegal aliens' strongest supporters for guest-worker and legalization initiatives. Of course, this is consistent with the ridiculousness of demonstrating for U.S. citizenship while carrying Mexican flags. Leave it to the Mexicans to be their own enemy.

For news junkies, May 1st will likely be very entertaining. From a personal perspective, if employees of my business took a unauthorized day off from work to demonstrate their political activism, they would likely be fired.

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1 Interesting indeed! Last time they took off work to rally many of them got fired or suspended from school. I am looking forward to " Nothing Gringo " day. Maybe a job will open up for me!

Posted by: Hailus at April 15, 2006 04:06 PM (FCC6c)

2 Nothing like using the communist labor day to make your stand. Take a second and learn about American culture and when our Labor Day is. It sounds like May First would be a good day to get a driver's license or do anything else where you would normally have to wait in line a couple of hours to get done.

Posted by: Fred Fry at April 15, 2006 04:16 PM (HJnrm)

3 I'm lovin' it!!! When all is said and done - this and the other stunts have to be the worse most idiotic public relations approaches imagined! Yes Yes! More of it! Mass demonstrations of/for illegals in every major city! Shut down traffic! Block roads and businesses! Please! Get tons of news coverage - 24 hours!!! Pols won't react unless its an actual crisis! All this will help fan the perception of pending crisis in the eyes of the overwhelming majority of Americans! Yes! Bring it on! Please!

Posted by: hondo at April 15, 2006 04:33 PM (4mgfY)

4 Yes, these fools are burning their bridges and alienating a LOT of legal American citizens (who vote by the way). How appropos to hold this charade on May 1st. And why aren't they demonstrating against the mexican govt. for allowing their country to wallow in poverty and ignorance since time immemorial? They've copped a very strange attitude indeed. I think a little adjustment may be necessary.

Posted by: Richard at April 15, 2006 05:02 PM (7KF8r)

5 I am officially changing my handle to Last word Larry instead of Hailus. It has a nice ring to it. I hope that flys and I don't get booted! I hereby repent from my trolling, spoofing ways! Nothin' but the truth as I see it! Which is: No need to strike the enemy of the American middle class as long as he is busy shooting himself in the foot! For years I have been saying: Not to worry, Pres Bush is so stupid and arrogant that he will continue flying in the face of the American people and making bad decisions and nominations of convenience until his ratings are so low he will be impeached! Now just waiting for the remaining 37% of idiots to come around. Nothing unAmerican about wanting to save the country ASAP! Whether or not we should have attacked Iraq we do need sensible leadership at the helm so we can get the job done! So it goes also with the illegal immigrant issue. No need to strike the enemy as long as they are busy shooting themselves in the feet!

Posted by: Last word Larry at April 15, 2006 05:29 PM (FCC6c)

6 Since you have no interest in any of the tread topics yet need to write commentary, why don't you simply write your own blog? Its not hard. You are not annoying if that's your goal - its very easy to simply ignore you - its all rather sad actually - some of us would help you if we can.

Posted by: hondo at April 15, 2006 05:43 PM (4mgfY)

7 Why don't legal American citizens have a "no illegal Mexican day"? Don't hire them, don't let them mow your lawn, don't eat at Mexican restaurants, not even Taco Bell. My patience is wearing thin with them.

Posted by: RepJ at April 15, 2006 06:21 PM (yedv2)

8 But Oh no! What if they havn't finished my roof and it rains that day? Point being, this country guided by big business and the almighty dollar will cave in like they have for the last several decades!

Posted by: Last word Larry at April 15, 2006 06:38 PM (FCC6c)

9 What really pisses me off the most about this is how these parasites are creating a social divide in this country nad poisoning the melting pot, intentionally in my opinion, and screwing it up for the ones who only want to make a better life for themselves and their families. I have known many Latino immigrants and guest workers, and most of them have been damn fine people, not like this scum that wants nothing but to take what someone else has earned. Liberals, socialists, et al, should be shot on sight so that everyone else can live in peace without their constant instigation, agitation, and irritation. A good liberal is a dead liberal.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at April 15, 2006 06:49 PM (0yYS2)

10 Unfortunately, one day isn't enough to show how much illegals cost the taxpayers in social benefits such as welfare, medical costs, housing, etc.

Posted by: Norma at April 15, 2006 07:06 PM (i+b69)

11 Boot all illegals from our schools and hospital emergency rooms and deport illegal alien prisoners and let's see how much money we save that day.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at April 15, 2006 07:27 PM (8e/V4)

12 Maybe they could really teach us a lesson and stay away for a whole year.

Posted by: slug at April 15, 2006 07:58 PM (wYW63)

13 Yes, all Americans should refuse to allow Mexicans at Hospital Emergency Rooms, grocery stores, government offices, schools, or any other place they gather and use up free services. I, for one, am tired of their crap, and while I USED to feel sorry for them, my sympathy is now turning to anger. I want something done with these illegals, and it is immediate deportment. And I want the border secured, even if we have to call out the National Guard. And get rough with those who try to cross illegally, not legal immigrants, who are welcome. The fact that we are even having this arguement 5 years after 3000 of our fellow citizens were murdered by some ILLEGAL ALIENS is disgusting.

Posted by: jesusland joe at April 15, 2006 08:19 PM (rUyw4)

14 Unfortunately this "immigration" issue will never be resolved until America takes the proper and tough stance. It is not an immigration issue in the first place it is a criminal trespassing issue. They are not immigrants they are people who have entered our contry illegally for the sole purpose to commit crimes, traffic drugs, and rape our women. Until our border patrol policy is "put a bullet in every mexicans head" we will continue to have this problem. America is collapsing under this tide of disease ridden illegal aliens.

Posted by: Victory for the USA at April 15, 2006 09:46 PM (y+196)

15 i think that not all of the illegal immigrants are mexicans there are some from guatamala, el salvador, and other countries from south america. and i also think that they need more than a day to prove us that they can affect us.

Posted by: gabb* at April 15, 2006 09:49 PM (JPo1q)

16 Victory, you are a liberal troll trying to make us look bad, or you are stupid. If you are serious about trying to solve the problem, suggest something besides genocide. That takes away from the discussion.

Posted by: jesusland joe at April 15, 2006 11:18 PM (rUyw4)

17 Genocide?? Genocide?? Protecting our borders and *real* citizens by shooting the filthy criminals that cross our borders is not genocide, it is justice. Genocide would be going illegally into THEIR country and killing large sections of their population. Your the one who sounds like a liberal whiner, at least get your definitions right. I stand up for America and am not afraid to put down the filth that tries to invade this country.

Posted by: Victory for the USA at April 15, 2006 11:51 PM (y+196)

18 Hell.......Most of them buy American products with our own money....Welfare

Posted by: IR at April 16, 2006 12:23 AM (PlDGv)

19 How stupid do they think any of us are? Notice how no one said they'd refrain from using our emergency rooms for a day or said that they'd not use one day's worth of their welfare checks or that they'd keep their kids out of our schools for a day or sleep out under the stars for a night instead of the housing handed to them by the tax payers or ... I think it would only be fair. Then we'd get to see how much we've saved in one day's housing, one day's emergency room use, one days food stamps, etc ...

Posted by: Oyster at April 16, 2006 05:13 AM (YudAC)

20 I have a simple solution for the whole illegal immigration thing, so now I will present my arguments and state my case. Even with millions of illegals in the country, unemployment is at one of the lowest levels since World War II, so obviously, they aren't ruining the economy. Quite the opposite, they seem to be stimulating the economy in certain sectors by providing reliable, affordable labor, both skilled and unskilled, and boosting real estate markets by renting down-market properties, thus providing a dual benefit to the economy. We need them, but we need to know who they are, where they are, and how many of them there are; ergo, we need a better guest worker program which addresses our economic and security needs simultaneously. Because they are illegals, they are vulnerable to expolitation by unscrupulous employers and landlords, the coyote smugglers, and every other sort of scumbag, such as democrats. They also risk their lives every time they cross the border. From a human rights standpoint, this is unacceptable regardless of the politics involved. They're here, and we need them as much as they need us, so for the sake of humanity if nothing else, we should have a guest worker program which takes all the scumbags, including democrats, out of the equation. I propose this; a program which allows people who are native born to any nation to our South to go the the US consulate or embassy, or a border station, present themselves for fingerprints, retinal scans, dental X-rays, and DNA samples, give them a smart card identifying them as a guest worker, and let them come work without having to risk their lives or pay thousands to smugglers. This program would also take literally millions of smugglers' mules out of the system, because if they're able to pass back and forth legally, they won't be so inclined to break the law, knowing they will lose their guest worker status if they do. Time spent in the US under this program should not count toward citizenship, but could be used as evidence of good conduct when applying for citizenship; a probationary period of sorts. Once this system is in place, it will be easier to seperate the desirable workers from the undesirable criminal element, and more vigorously prosecute anyone found in the US illegally. Fines for citizens hiring illegals could be made so high that financial ruin would be the result, and lifetime prison sentences without the possibility of parole for smugglers of humans and drugs would almost immediately break smuggling rings and stop repeat offenders. The political element would be defused, and those who would be here legally could earn better wages and pay for their own medical care rather than relying on emergency rooms because they only make crap wages. We need them, and they need us. What's more, we're neighbors, and should not behave as enemies just because our politicians are idiots.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at April 16, 2006 07:20 AM (0yYS2)

21 Improbulus, that is about as improbable as peace and democracy in the middle east! Might be some credibility to your argument if we were actually winning any wars be it against drugs, poverty, homelessness, health care or global terrorism! Not to mention sterotypism and bigotry!

Posted by: Last word Larry at April 16, 2006 08:50 AM (FCC6c)

22 if employees of my business took a unauthorized day off from work to demonstrate their political activism, they would likely be fired. Did you see this?

Posted by: rightwingprof at April 16, 2006 09:15 AM (hj1Wx)

23 It sounds like a reasonable plan IM, but will it be practical? There are several issues that would still need to be addressed. Firstly, you mentioned that this plan will be for any nation south of the US. There are alot of people south of the US in Central and South America alone, not to mention the caribbean. It's possible that the bureaucratic system could become bogged down to the point where it becomes easier and faster to once again to sneak across the border. Secondly, once all these guest workers enter the US, many will find jobs, but many will not. Who will then support these people? A condition for continued participation in the guest worker program might be proof of employment with a period of no longer than four months between jobs. Thirdly, what will be the impact on the countries as the skilled workers in the high demand professions (engineering, research, IT, financial) start heading to the US to find better jobs? Conditions will become worse and the US may find that in exchange for an abundant immigrant workforce it will have to support to a greater extent the populations that stay behind in their home countries. To solve the problem of illegal immigration will unfortunately call for some unneighbourly behaviour.

Posted by: Graeme at April 16, 2006 11:00 AM (JvxNP)

24 Just one day? Let's see how well we do without illegal immigrants for a month, or better yet, a year, or how 'bout perpetuity? We can get convicts to pick the fruit and high school students need to re-learn the American work ethic. They might actually enjoy their summer landscaping jobs if they weren't isolated from their coworkers due to a language barrier. May 1 should be celebrated by Gringos and legal immigrants all around!

Posted by: NuclearTinkerbell at April 16, 2006 11:45 AM (r78od)

25 I admit the plan is far from complete, but at least it's something, and I challenge anyone else to do better off the top of their head in just a few minutes. Or we could just go on the way we are, in a downward spiral to our doom.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at April 16, 2006 05:53 PM (0yYS2)

26 I'm afraid spiralling towards our doom is the inevitable outcome. In the 60's people were of one mind and of one culture. They rioted and taught the government a lesson. Then the government said there is too much unity. Plan: Let as many immigrants in of diverse cultures as possible so they are not likely to unite and cause problems with the bigger picture of corporate profit run big government. Big business has no concern these days for individual countries. With global economy in their sights they are not bound by any single country's laws and bylaws. So it's big business as usual and they could give a rat's ass about America or any other country.

Posted by: Last word Larry at April 16, 2006 06:50 PM (FCC6c)

27 Oh! and if the immigrants are illegal and cannot speak English, all the better!

Posted by: Last word Larry at April 16, 2006 07:01 PM (FCC6c)

28 Ok victory will you support going into Sudan and kicking ass and taking names there? If your aim is no genocide that is.

Posted by: Howie at April 16, 2006 07:06 PM (D3+20)

29 Woooooo! I can't wait for this day!! I hope the army is ready to go knocking at every door and start deporting filth out of here! Yaaay! for a day I will feel the real America, with its legal people, white, black, yellow and brown altogether with the power of LEGAL immigration! I will prolly miss work just to go out and see the beautiful country without the ugly people.

Posted by: Dave at April 17, 2006 01:10 AM (QAzSm)

30 Maxie, I agree with you on many levels, but I don't see any empirical evidence that they're stimulating any particular sector of the economy. Yes, we should have had a guest worker program decades ago, but in the eighties all they wanted to do was grant illegals amnesty and sweep the real problems under the rug. Now they want to do it again. They're focusing on who's here already and how many more to allow instead of controlling the border. We can't go through this every twenty years. The Democrats are too busy trying to make the Republicans look bad to really do anything and the Republicans are too busy kow-towing to businesses who like the cheap labor. The Mexican government has to do something too. A guest worker program has to have a limit or we'll have a stampede over the border because Mexico has no incentive, still, to make any overtures toward a solution. And when that limit is reached annually, if we don't have our borders under control, we're back to square one. Without a limit, too, the whole idea of "Buy American" is further eroded because even more American dollars aren't recycled back into our economy as much of their paycheck gets sent back to Mexico; the guest worker program is for the workers, not their entire families. The only one's who'll make out great is the government with the tax dollars. I have nothing against Mexicans. I lived in Texas on and off for years and met and grew fond of many of them. As a whole they're fine people, but we have to be practical.

Posted by: Oyster at April 17, 2006 04:13 AM (YudAC)

31 Newt has a great idea. Give the illegals a work permit, but 20% of their pay goes to a lockbox and can only be collected when they go home to Mexico.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at April 17, 2006 08:35 AM (8e/V4)

32 The Democrats have no need to make Republicans look bad. The Republicans are doing a splendid job of that on there own! Now they are caught between a rock and a hard place. Do they distance themselves from the incompetent President or do they side with him and look stupid?

Posted by: Last word Larry at April 17, 2006 10:09 AM (FCC6c)

33 Is very interesting to see what is happening there in USA. I'm mexican, but I'm fine living here in Monterrey, Mexico. Thanks good here in Mexico we don't have that trouble, perhaps, if USA weren't where it is, all sudamericans would come to Mexico. I think that the probably new laws won't change nothing. SINCERE WORRY: What to me make me nervous is the path that all this is taking. I have seen provocative acts for both sides. I think that what comes is something that exceed our imagination. Sadly, I think it had just begun. Thanks God, i'm far, out there. FACT I: Poor people ALWAYS will be moving to places where people pays well, NO MATTER any law. FACT II: Smart and competitive people ALWAYS will try to save money paying low salaries, even if they have to make it "under water". SOLUTION: Help Mexico to be a better country (give ideas), it will be the best fence for americans. Greetings from some peaceful place in Mexico.

Posted by: Martin Regio at April 17, 2006 03:20 PM (VafwI)

34 I think that maybe I'm dreamin' .... down in Monterey! I think Regis means under the water table don't you? Or maybe water pipe?

Posted by: Last word Larry at April 19, 2006 10:38 AM (FCC6c)

35 I think it will be great to have a day without any mexicans clogging our roads.

Posted by: jack at April 19, 2006 08:03 PM (hvOaZ)

36 Wow, where do I begin? First of all, the idea of illegal immigrants staging marches and boycotts against the country that they invited themselves into is offensive to me as an American. How odd that I, a lifetime liberal, find myself agreeing with George F. Will of all people, when he says that illegal immigrants have assimilated enough to have an Â“entitlementÂ” mentality regarding their demands. How dare they claim to have Â“rightsÂ” under the very laws that they snubbed when they came here illegally? Then thereÂ’s the criminal element. IÂ’ve read all the previous posts, and the only mention I saw was by Victory for the USA. There is indeed a huge gang problem in most large cities; where I live in the MD/DC/VA area, we have an infestation of the Mara Salvatrucha, or MS-13, gang. They are Salvadoran immigrants who are particularly vicious in their attacks (their weapon of choice is the machete), and they donÂ’t take deportation seriouslyÂ—they lie that theyÂ’re from Mexico and just come right back over the border. ThereÂ’s a case being prosecuted in MD right now that the Feds took over to make sure these guys got put away for real: four MS-13 members robbed a brothel within walking distance of where I grew up; they attempted to rape the female police officer who busted up the robbery, and it took a SWAT team to make the arrests. I donÂ’t know about everyone else, but I was hoping to die of old age in my home country without being forced to learn a foreign language (in addition to the one I learned in school). If the immigrants who do want to stay here peacefully would just freakinÂ’ melt already, instead of trying to have it both ways, it would go a long way towards making everyday Americans (as opposed to the bloodsucking businesses that enslave them) feel more comfortable. HereÂ’s another radical idea: how about taxing the hell out of all the millions of dollars being sent out of this country as a way to recoup some of the payroll taxes that arenÂ’t being collected? I do like the idea, however, of jailing the greedy business owners who repeatedly break the law instead of just fining them. I donÂ’t think many of them want to be some big hairy guyÂ’s Prison Bitch. Hallelujah!

Posted by: momosity at April 24, 2006 10:47 PM (tKREw)

37 Boy what a rats nest this entire issue is becoming. Its amazing that think-tanks do not take the lessons of the past and anticipate the future with them. I live in South Florida, we have experienced the so-called open border syndrome (wet-foot,dry-foot policies)it has been no picnic, and the cost to our cities is incalcuable. I will make it easy..check out Florida's department of corrections website. The gangs, the crime, is unfathomable. Someone mentioned the brutality of some of these people, you better believe it, its not enough for some of these criminals to put a gun to your head and take your money, they feel the need to rape you if your a woman, and slash you and your children's throats in the process.Even if this country comes up with a fair and equitable solution, it will never work, I say take a firm hand now and deport,trust me..enough will slip thru the cracks to make it fair.

Posted by: valigator at April 27, 2006 07:18 AM (QAKXw)

38 We will regain this country to its original owners: the native american , which for the uninformed, is the same native that moved south into central and south america. Europeans, back to Europe, with your syphillis!!!

Posted by: Fidel at April 28, 2006 01:28 PM (o37J4)

39 We will regain this country for its original owners: the native american , which for the uninformed, is the same native that moved south into central and south america. Europeans, back to Europe, with your syphillis!!!

Posted by: Fidel at April 28, 2006 01:28 PM (o37J4)

40 WHAT A DAMN MESS. THE INACTION OF OUR SO CALLED GOVERNMENT IS RUINING THIS COUNTRY. FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE I FEAR FOR THIS COUNTRY. TO STAND IDLY BY WHILE THE U.S. IS BEING OVERRUN BY PEOPLE THAT HATE US IS OUTRAGEOUS. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS THINK ABOUT THE "NOTHING GRINGO" DAY TO REALIZE WHAT THEY THINK OF US. AND THEY GET UPSET IF THEY ARE LABELED "ILLEGALS" WHICH THEY ARE. THE GREED OF THE BUSINESSES AND THE POLITICIANS WORRYING ABOUT THEIR CAREERS INSTEAD OF THE GOOD OF THIS COUNTRY IS GOING TO BE OUR DOWNFALL. WHERE ARE THE THOMAS JEFFERSONS AND GEORGE WASHINGTONS OF THE PAST? I FEAR IT IS TOO LATE, AND NO ONE BUT TANCREDO HAS THE GUTS TO STAND UP FOR THE CITIZENS OF THE U.S. LOOK AT THE CORRUPTION AND VIOLENCE SOUTH OF THE BORDER. DO YOU REALLY THINK IT WILL STAY SOUTH OF THE BORDER? NOW THEY ARE GOING TO LEGALIZE DRUGS IN MEXICO. WHAT A GREAT COUNTRY WE HAD BUT IT IS SLIPPING OUT OF OUR HANDS. WITHOUT BORDER ENFORCEMENT THIS COUNTRY WILL DIE, WHILE THE POLITICIANS SIT IDLY BY, WHILE THE BORDER IS BEING OVERRUN NOT DOING A DAMN THING ABOUT IT WORRYING ABOUT THEIR NEXT ELECTION. I HAVE NEVER SEEN THE AMOUNT OF ANGER IN THE U.S. ABOUT THIS ISSUE. GIVE ME A POLITICIAN WHO WILL STAND UP FOR THE U.S. CITIZENS AND HE HAS MY VOTE.

Posted by: Fed Up at April 29, 2006 05:19 AM (FWVPp)

41 Try living in my town...pickup the newspaper while your at it. Every police record, every drive by shooting involves the last name of Hernandez, Perez, Garcia and the list goes on. There was even an 18 yr old girl the other day (Mexican of course) that gave birth in the back yard of her apartment complex and then threw the baby in the dumpster. Now the tax paying people are paying for a funeral and headstone. I saw a bumper sticker the other day on a truck...It said "Make welfare as hard to get as a building permit" Thought that was rather amusing. These people have already taken over our country. We are building low income housing for them as fast as we can put them up. In our great town they are the only ones that own their own businesses anymore. You can't even buy a good paying city, state or government job here that pays well.....unless of course you are bilingual. Should we as Americans go back to night school and learn Spanish, just to get a good paying job with benefits? In our own country? Wake up America! They are already here.....we are not going to send them home. They are now well established. There is no American dream anymore for any of us. It is theirs. What it boils down to is the politicians are lining their pockets as well as big business. They want them here. Therefore they will stay.

Posted by: Gwen at April 29, 2006 08:55 AM (CiU7S)

42 Lets all make a deal...go out of your way not to employ or contract goods and services that come from either illegals or companies employing them. I read where if you had companies paying a decent wage there wouldnt be this problem. But look out, the minimum wage will increase, but only for the illegals...so your damned if you do, damned if you dont....all I can say is start asking, you dont get the answer you want dont give your money to them...

Posted by: valigator at April 29, 2006 10:05 AM (0/BHZ)

43 first and foremost.....mexicans beaners hispanics, whatever ya wanna call em, do contriubte to our ag. society, such as apples, and asparagus picking. Believe it or not this is very hard work, that ill admit i dont want to do! BUT the way that these individuals fuck the system and the government is unreal, how can they get approved for an auto loan on a 50000 dollar escalade when they live in a tuna can trailer house, but yet their car is sittin on "dubs" as they call it. Where i live in the great or what used to be great northwest, it is just over populated with these gangster wannabee welfare taking beaners, but yet, they are having a no gringo day in america? Id say they owe us gringos for putting up with there shit for the last 30 years....the murders, the drugs, the baby making, which not to mention that is all they are good at is makin meth and contaminating the rest of the world with there offspring, know what im sayin? With this whole "no gringo day" shit goin on, i think i am starting to like the blacks more and more everyday! POWER TO THE GRINGO POPULATION!! (if there is any left)

Posted by: Travis at April 29, 2006 12:40 PM (CiU7S)

44 I'm angry at our government for aiding and abetting illegal immigration. If only we could deport them all and secure our borders-yes-even with the aid of the National Guard. I have a question: Isn't Mexico supposedly a wealthy country? Aren't they supposedly sitting on top of massive amounts of oil? Yet their Govt. wants to keep its' people down and in turn is actually angry at the U.S. Govt. for attempting to secure our very own borders. The Mexican Govt. wants to keep their rich people rich while WE take care of their poor!!

Posted by: Judith at April 29, 2006 04:01 PM (BJYNn)

45 Nothing Gringo Day? Ok two can play that game. I am declaring the month of May, 2006 Nothing Mexican Month. No Mexican Beer , No Mexican Food and boycotting Mexican Restaurants. I suggest anyone who travels to Mexico, cancel the trip. This includes Acupulco, Cancun and other places. There are other places to to see in the world.

Posted by: ejhickey at April 30, 2006 02:42 AM (Avuuf)

46 I am already there...no more eating establishments ....thats big here, a mexican rest. on every corner...not happening, my dollars are not going towards this crap if I can help it...

Posted by: valigator at April 30, 2006 08:27 AM (ozLpm)

47 I rarely go to Walmart - I should definately go tomorrow; maybe I could actually get a decent parking space!

Posted by: csiegel at April 30, 2006 03:34 PM (5RC10)

48 I'm in agreement with ej hickey and valigator; boycott anything Mexican. Anyone out there with even an ounce of loyalty to our country shouldn't even think about "celebrating" Cinco De Mayo!! The Mexicans can take their Cinco De Mayo and shove it couth of the border, if you get my drift.

Posted by: Judith at April 30, 2006 04:53 PM (BJYNn)

49 How about a "Nothing Wetback" day. That means no trips to mexico, no Corona(piss water anyway!), or any mexican "cuisine"(if mashed beans and unleavened flour discs cooked in squalor can be considered as such). Lets teach these illiterate unwanted guest workers just who calls the tune here. Lets hope Homeland security has the cameras rolling on these protests,and massive deportations ensue.

Posted by: hombre at May 01, 2006 02:30 PM (QMrCf)

50 Well folks, the worst and best day of the year is almost over....did ya know that 1000000 immigrants from mexico find there way to america a year from the old mexican territory ? Sick and wrong is what it is...Today i have witnessed restaurants closed, mechanic shops, shipping and recieving plants, and even a Mcdonalds!!!!!!!!! Can you believe that shit? There are countrys with people and children starving to death, but yet these immigrants feel they need special treatment when they are illegal anyway?? Im down with what ol hombre said, nothing wetback day!!! Id like to see even taco bell go out of business, though it would never happen, it would be quite comical! From this day foward, today will be the designated "can" hunting day from the good ol american tradition! Get my drift?! Have a good day!

Posted by: redneck at May 01, 2006 06:02 PM (CiU7S)

51 Oh yea I get your drift, I am not usually into canned hunts ...but for this I'll make an exception.....

Posted by: valigator at May 02, 2006 10:00 AM (E47WC)

52 PS did you notice how most of the newscasters made a big deal about how peaceful the demonstrations were all day, then the sun went down and all hell broke loose....kinda like vermin coming out after dark....trust me if you just read the present crime stats in most cities, its a forecast of things to come...oh and by the way, think of this...the illegals get to come in, they lay low for six months..then they start protesting and walking off jobs for pay raises...dont laugh they are doing it here, they even have a union for illegals in Florida...now wouldnt you say, the old argument of illegals doing the jobs Americans wont do flies out the window that very day...Illegals will hold business's by the balls until they get paid what a citizen who jumped thru hoops to be here legally gets paid...mark my words...dont hire them, dont get near them, they will screw you the first opportunity...

Posted by: valigator at May 02, 2006 10:07 AM (E47WC)

53 ok... i just heard about this nonsince. you gotta be kidding me. a racial slur in another language is STILL a slur. They were defended saying "gringo" is just a word they use for white people. Bull. so who decides which slur is ok and which is not? They celebraited no gringo day, do we get a no spic day? while we're at it lets go all the way. May 1st-no honkey day May 5th- no beaner day May 20th- no nigger day May 30th- goomba day no kike, mick, maple-leaf, yank, limey, kraut, dot-head, carpet beater, pillow biter, muff diver dates to be posted thanks

Posted by: capthowdy at May 04, 2006 08:19 PM (MxLkj)

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April 12, 2006

Oh the Irony

After seeing this photo while reading Michelle MalkinÂ’s blog the other day I just could not help but giggle a bit today when I read this.

Clarification: Right now, unlawful entry is a civil violation -- technically not a crime; a majority of House Republicans wanted to elevate the violation to a misdemeanor; but Democrats proposed making it a felony -- to undermine the entire bill by making it appear too harsh, according its sponsor, Rep. F. James Sensenbrenner (R-Wis.).
(CNSNews.com) - House Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) and Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tenn.) issued a joint statement on Tuesday making it clear that it was Democrats who insisted on making unlawful presence in the United States a felony rather than a misdemeanor.
"In December, the House of Representatives passed a strong border security bill aimed at securing our borders and preventing illegal immigration," the statement said.
"However, on December 16, 2005, there were 191 House Democrats who voted to oppose House Republican efforts to reduce the crime of unlawful presence in the United States from a felony to a misdemeanor. Instead, they voted to make felons out of all of those who remain in our country illegally. (Some conservative Republicans also favored making unlawful presence a felony.)
"While we are disappointed with the House Democrat's lack of compassion and the continued efforts by Senator Reid to block action on immigration legislation so that Congress can proceed to conference, it remains our intent to produce a strong border security bill that will not make unlawful presence in the United States a felony."

Yes vote Democrat! It is the party of stab you in the back traitors these days. Pretty neat how the Democrats painted the Republicans and the right as the enemy of immigrants, while at the same time screwing immigrants over.

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1 It would have been smart politics for the Republicans to stay quiet on the issue giving the impression that they are intractable and therefore demoralizing those organizing the AMNESTY RALLIES. If they wanted to drop the felony provision they should have waited until a later time so that it didn't appear they were buckling under intense pressure. However, the Republican leadership has never been noted for intellect so they are going the impression that the AMNESTY RALLIES effected change.

Posted by: Thomas Galvin at April 12, 2006 10:55 AM (KjUHH)

2 Democrats aren't stupid, that's for sure.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at April 12, 2006 10:55 AM (8e/V4)

3 "...a majority of House Republicans wanted to elevate the violation to a misdemeanor; but Democrats proposed making it a felony -- to undermine the entire bill by making it appear too harsh,..." This is just their way of getting back at the Republicans for forcing a vote on the draft legislation Charley Rangel sponsored in '04 and for forcing a vote on Jack Murtha's pull-out.They called it a "dirty trick". Well then, what do they call this? And Ted "Blowhole" Kennedy's and Hillary Clinton's speeches the last couple days made me want to puke. It seems that everytime a Democrat gets in front of a microphone they think they have to yell and get "passionate" when all it is is pandering to the entitlement crowd. Meh.

Posted by: Oyster at April 12, 2006 11:31 AM (GLcRB)

4 Uh...if Hastert's statement bears any relationship to what actually happened...then how did the felony provision get into the bill in the first place, given that Sensenbrenner's bill was a Republican written, Republican supported bill when it came out of his Republican dominated committee with almost all Republican votes? Face it--Repubs thought that the country WANTED harsh anti-immigrant measures (and some evidence says they were right, at the time). So they put the tough measures, with no guest worker or legalization into the bill. When the Catholic church and some other groups said--hey, this will criminalize the nun who gives shelter to a destitute Mexican family...the Repubs tried to downgrade it to misdemeanor. The Dems, for once not being stupid, said--hold up there, you guys are stuck with the hate-bill you passed. It is a more complicated story than the one you are telling, Howie. And how many times have Republicans stuck Democrats with a roadblock--because they wanted the issue for the elections? It's just smart legislating by the opposition. The majority got what it said it wanted--and then decided to try and change it. Dems are not going to help Repubs when they are behaving incompetently, and perhaps incoherently. And I think many Dems sincerely wanted NO criminality.

Posted by: jd at April 12, 2006 11:36 AM (aqTJB)

5 Personnaly the reason many Americans won't do these jobs is becuase they don't have to. I think a few of these welfare to work jobs should be this type. And if you can identify the father of little Susie welfare's kids put him in the field too to cover her expense. I've throw hay chopped thistles cut grass. But hey I draw the line at detassleing corn. Never been that desparate. Ranther than these guys have to sneak across to do the jobs and suck up out services for free I'd much rather they not have to cross illegally. If you have a job waiting I'm all for work so come on. But here in ILL some misdemeanors can become a felony. for instance battery if you have the same guy in court 3 times over and over it can become a felony. Or if there are aggravating circumstances a change can be eleaveted to a felony. I would support the same thing here. First time misdemeanor. But if the same guy gets caught over and over on a regular basis or say is here illegally and commits a serious crime then also I would support that. But just some guy trying to feed his kids it's a bit harsh. Get our people to put down the chips and sweat for about 12 hours and our medicare cost will go down too. But if not got to have workers.

Posted by: Howie at April 12, 2006 12:13 PM (D3+20)

6 I reckon since the author did not put that in it was an ammendment. Also some on the right would suppprt a felony I'm just not that guy. We need workers yes but we can't hand out servicers for free forever and we also need some control. Maybe not total control of the border but a good balance. A guest worker bill could help.

Posted by: Howie at April 12, 2006 12:17 PM (D3+20)

7 "If they wanted to drop the felony provision they should have waited until a later time so that it didn't appear they were buckling under intense pressure." You mean they're not? Its good when the right side wins, for once. In a time when Americans are all about ready to retreat (or never engage) from righteous battles going on around the world - from the cartoons of stupidity to Iraq and Iran - its good to see at least one segment of the American population can stand up for whats right. Good job to the immigrants (legal and illegal) who protested and the businesses who exerted pressure on the repubs for this.

Posted by: MiB at April 12, 2006 12:18 PM (Ra10h)

8 Drop all welfare payments and you'll see Americans doing those jobs. Wages would be pretty decent too I bet. Liberalism is what caused this problem in the first place with welfare and open borders. Now the GOP is going to take the fall for wanting to fix the problem. Liberalism is a cancer on society. It's like an AIDS virus, weakening our resistance to social ills. Look at France. It's killing them too. Riots 24/7 and the weak kneed government caving to no-good lazy malcontents. Same thing here in America. The GOP doesn't have the balls.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at April 12, 2006 12:23 PM (8e/V4)

9 MIB I see it a bit differently. We are trying to help. Every guest worker would be one less guy that has to sneak across. The Dems can't afford for the right to be the source of help they have to throw a wrench into and stir up a whole mess of made up trouble. Too many hispanics go conservative as they age once in the US anyway. The perception that conservatives like people who work and would help do what they can while still trying to control the problems is a perception the left has to fight tooth and nail. If they don't they loose big.

Posted by: Howie at April 12, 2006 12:40 PM (D3+20)

10 Jesusland Carlos - Hey lets drop the welfare, open the borders, and then see what happens. Oh wait, you can't, because Americans are socialists. Nice fantasy tho. "MIB I see it a bit differently. We are trying to help. Every guest worker would be one less guy that has to sneak across. The Dems can't afford for the right to be the source of help they have to throw a wrench into and stir up a whole mess of made up trouble. Too many hispanics go conservative as they age once in the US anyway. The perception that conservatives like people who work and would help do what they can while still trying to control the problems is a perception the left has to fight tooth and nail. If they don't they loose big." I already presented a workable solution. Why is no one asking about the arbitrarily set limits and hoops you need to jump through to get into the USA? And why does everyone seem to take without question the arbitrary assertion that the USA can only assimilate "so many" people? We assimilated a huge percentage of foreigners in a ratio to the population already here in the past, but all of a sudden any more than 0.33% is too much?

Posted by: MiB at April 12, 2006 01:00 PM (Ra10h)

11 It should ne noted that the communist WORKERS WORLD PARTY are behind many of these protests just like they were behind many antiwar protests

Posted by: sandpiper at April 12, 2006 01:02 PM (stdEd)

12 MIB : Well becuase it's not an open continent any more. It was but no longer. And it's the cost. When we assimilated many of the prior generations they did not get free this free that. Why should a Mexican have to follow he same rules everyone else does? Lot's of people want to come and we should let as many come as we can that being said w can't take everyone. It's not fair to say Graeme the Brit. She would like to come over. I'm sure she would like to do it fairly and by the rules. So if the mexicans take all the slots kind of screws every one else including Brits, Costa Ricans so and and so forth. If we still had a big frontier to settle that's different. Now it's just cities. Our need for immigrants is not as large as it used to be. Bummer but true.

Posted by: Howie at April 12, 2006 01:12 PM (D3+20)

13 Posted by Howie at April 12, 2006 12:13 PM I reckon since the author did not put that in it was an ammendment. Howie--there was no amendment making it a felony. That was part of sensenbrenner's original REPUBLICAN bill. He thought that would work to bring out the base. Turns out he got it wrong. Democrats voted down (along with the pro-felony Repubs) an amendment to weaken it, but make no mistake--felony was a Republican idea, a Republican proposal, and it is the Republicans who will and should pay a political price for it.

Posted by: jd at April 12, 2006 01:23 PM (aqTJB)

14 Whatever the bill came out of committee with the felony part and 191 Dems voted against reducing the charge so now who's playing tough. Seems the Dems want to be on both sides except they want to say to the unions, "We'll make em felons" And to the immigrants, "we're your buddy". I always thought the felony was too much for a first offense no other crime invlolved.

Posted by: Howie at April 12, 2006 01:40 PM (D3+20)

15 Well, the Dems were voting to make it non-criminal at any level to be here. Combined with the repubs who wanted it to be a felony, they won. The Republican majority then had a choice--go back, and do a comprehensive bill, like the Senate was planning, or vote for this monstrosity. They chose to vote for this one, gambling that the Dems would be hurt by having voted no on immigration toughness. They guessed wrong. It's going to suck to watch Pete Wilson II hit the Repubs, bigger and harder this time. Hispanics are the WORST voters of any ethnic group, in terms of turnout, even when you control for income and education. But now....the sleeping giant has been awakened, and even Cubans are going to vote against Repubs in record numbers, I think. Not to mention other minorities. Oops...

Posted by: jd at April 12, 2006 02:05 PM (aqTJB)

16 MiB: Many of us fully understand that the "arbitrary" requirements of coming to the US or even becoming a ctitzen are cumbersome (to understate it). What you're missing is not whether we can assimilate any prescribed number of people, but that assimilation becomes more slipshod as the numbers get bigger. You can't deny that assimilation is absolutely necessary to maintaining our national identity. Especially those who are here illegally; they will tend to huddle with those who will protect them and will not feel a part of our society because they know they're not. They don't mingle or interact and by this, they don't learn the language or customs. Those who protect them have a tendency to withdraw too because they know what they're doing is against our laws and there is a certain level of fear in getting caught. I don't think you ever read my response to you a few days ago when this subject was discussed. This current issue has no bearing our social programs. It's the last comment here: http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/169113.php Feel free to respond here if you like. While you've spent a great deal of keyboard time telling us what is wrong with us, you have not given us your solution. So I'll give you mine in brief points: 1) First, secure the borders. Not close them, but secure them - (control them, if you will.) 2) Revamp the system whereby guest workers can come here on a temporary basis. If they abuse it, they lose their status permanently. There are a lot of honest, hard working people that come here and I think we should welcome them, but legally and with comensurate wages and to be certain they pay their fair share of taxes. After they renew and continue to be good, productive societal members they can be eligible for citizenship without a lot of hassel. 3) Lose the PC bull and start profiling. There is no good reason why honest people are refused admission and Taliban officials get to go to an ivy league school. 4)Screw the Democrats in their bid to issue regular licenses to anyone who wants them and to let people vote without ID. Issue the proper ID's and issue "specially marked" licenses to those who are working under the guest worker program. Can't prove citizenship? Well, sorry, you can't vote. 5) Punish "sanctuary" cities. 6) Punish corporations who hire illegals. 7) No social services to those who cannot prove they're here legally. (of course, we'll not ignore those who may be under threat of life and limb and need emergency medical help. But then they go right back to where they came from.) Start showing those who want to be here that being here is a priviledge; not a right. And that they'll be treated with respect if they respect our laws and we won't undermine their doing things right by being lax on everyone else who wants to sneak in. Sounds like a lot? It's not. And it's not unreasonable.

Posted by: Oyster at April 12, 2006 02:11 PM (GLcRB)

17 Yes there were right before the weren't. Yeah the pooch has been screwed. We tried. They did a good job turning it on it's head. Personlly I'd like for a guest worker to be able to come and work. Cross a the border like an ordinary person. Be able to go home the same way and visit. I'm not mean. Probably not going to happen now so this poor guy gets to keep on hiding and sneaking and getting screwed with no minimum wage no workers comp not seeing his family etc etc. He could have been better off if both sides had worked for a reasonable bill. Politics ate this one. (you can blame both sides or one or the other won't bother me much)

Posted by: Howie at April 12, 2006 02:15 PM (D3+20)

18 Most immigrant groups didn't want the Sensenbrenner bill, even with the amendment, so Dems made a smart parliamentary maneuver. It isn't often that they have figured out stuff like this, in advance, not believed today's polls, but thought about where the issue was heading over the next month or year. but this time, they got it right, and Republicans are on the hot seat now. Incidentally, I personally favor building the highest tech, tightest wall the world has ever seen on our border...and legalizing most of the 11 million that are here. From here on out, though, we control our borders. This is the land border with the greatest income disparity in the WORLD. In no other part of the world does a pretty poor country have this kind of land border with a very rich one. If we don't build a heck of barrier, they will keep coming. We need to have legal, controlled, safe immigration. If Jose and a coyote can get across, Ahmed and a bomb can get across, too.

Posted by: jd at April 12, 2006 02:23 PM (aqTJB)

19 JD, you have a point in saying that it was likely originally Republican wording that suggested making it a felony to be here illegally. But when they were seeking to downgrade it, if the Democrats wanted to really get something done and do the public servant work they swore to do, it was wrong for them to block that change and try to make their political counterparts looks like Satans. Maybe I'm interpreting you wrongly, but it sounds like you're defending the bad actions of the Democrats, when in fact they're both screwed up. The Democrats nor the Republicans even WANT to face this problem. They're behaving like children who don't want to clean their bedrooms as they pout and mess each others beds up when the American public is telling them they're tired of the mess.

Posted by: Oyster at April 12, 2006 02:23 PM (GLcRB)

20 Ooops. We posted at the same time. I get it now.

Posted by: Oyster at April 12, 2006 02:25 PM (GLcRB)

21 I had to go consult my Democrat buddy. Ok so he's not a really a hard left Democrat, he is from Texas. He thought felony was a bit much. He understands why they come. He suggested a 12 foot 5000 volt high amperage fence to "charge" em with. He also is against letting illegals stay just because they are already here. So he is more harsh on the issue than I am but I expected that from my Texan buddy.

Posted by: Howie at April 12, 2006 02:36 PM (D3+20)

22 Meanwhile, if Americans leave and come back without notifying the proper authorites, we can be fined thousands of dollars. Of all the enemies we face, our own government is the worst.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at April 12, 2006 02:46 PM (0yYS2)

23 IM, you make an excellent point. We're more scared of our government than illegal invaders are. There is something deeply, deeply wrong with that.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at April 12, 2006 03:07 PM (8e/V4)

24 Okay, Howie already has this in his WTW post, and thanks again dude. BUT, I feel it kinda goes here better. Dear President Bush: I'm about to plan a little trip with my family and extended family and I would like to ask you to assist me. I'm going to walk across the border from the US into Mexico, and I need to make a few arrangements. I know you can help with this. I plan to skip all the legal stuff like visas, passports, immigration, quotas and laws. I'm sure they handle those things the same way you do here. So, would you mind telling your buddy, President Vicente Fox, that I'm on my Way over? Please let him know that I will be expecting the following: 1. Free medical care for my entire family. 2. English-speaking government bureaucrats for all services I might need, whether I use them or not. 3. All government forms need to be printed in English. 4. I want my kids to be taught by English-speaking teachers. 5. Schools need to include classes on American culture and history. 6. I want my kids to see the American flag flying on the top of the flag pole at their school with the Mexican flag flying lower down. 7. Please plan to feed my kids at school for both breakfast and lunch. 8. I will need a local Mexican driver's license so I can get easy access To government services. 9. I do not plan to have any car insurance, and I won't make any effort To learn local traffic laws. 10. In case one of the Mexican police officers does not get the memo from President Fox to leave me alone, please be sure that all police officers speak English. 11. I plan to fly the US flag from my house top, put flag decals on my car, and have a gigantic celebration on July 4th. I do not want any complaints or negative comments from the locals. 12. I would like to have a nice job without paying any taxes, and don't enforce any labor laws or tax laws. 13. Please tell all the people in the country to be extremely nice and Never say a critical word about me, or about the strain I might place on the economy. I know this is an easy request because you already do all these things for all the people who come to the US from Mexico. I am sure that Pres. Fox won't mind returning the favor if you ask him nicely. However, if he gives you any trouble, just invite him to go quail hunting with your VP. Thank you so much for your kind help.

Posted by: memphis761 at April 12, 2006 03:43 PM (D3+20)

25 It should be a felony to be in the US illegally. Do any of you remember a terrorist attack that KILLED 3000 Americans about five years ago? Several of these terrorists took advantage of our weak system to kick the hell out of us, and we are still argueing about this. It's time for the citizens of the US to handle this problem. The government doesn't have the balls to do it.

Posted by: jesusland joe at April 12, 2006 04:34 PM (rUyw4)

26 Yes Carlos, there's plenty wrong with it. I no longer respect or recognize the authority of the Federal government on any level, because by its collective refusal to perfom its duties to its citizens by giving more sway to the wishes of criminals and declared enemies of our nation than to We, the People. The government is absolutely corrupt from root to branch, and absolutely unreformable due to the mechanisms put in place to ensure continuity of that corruption. Voting is masturbation, because no honest person can ever be elected or appointed to any position of power; with rare exception, only criminals or those willing to sell out to criminals can attain power; this is demonstrable, incontrovertable fact. America is, or was, a Constituional Republic. The Constitution is the only law of the land; not the government, which would be imperialism, and not the demos, which would be mob rule. No citizen of the United States is Constitutionally bound to recognize any law, obey any directive of the government, or recognize the results of any ballot which contradicts the Constitution, but we are forced to by the threat of violence. I do not believe this is what was intended by the Founders. Soon we will be fighting illegals, muslims, and their liberal Quislings in the streets, and they will have the forces of the government on their side, because they have the power of Political Correctness, which always stands against the Constitution and those who uphold it. We are besieged by enemies, and those of us who are able will have to fight or surrender to slavery at worst and second-class-citizen status at best, which is just about the case now. Or we could just let ourselves and our families be killed by the subhuman savages. The only viable solution is that of 1776. We must arm ourselves and prepare to fight for our very survival, because we have nowhere to go and nobody to help us. Every loyal citizen should buy a military type rifle and at least one thousand rounds of ammunition, because as soon as the shooting starts, there will be no more to be found, except in the hands of illegals, muslims, and the government, of course. Prepare to fight or die; those are your choices.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at April 13, 2006 07:32 AM (0yYS2)

27 Man, I thought they killed Tim McVeigh...

Posted by: jd at April 13, 2006 10:20 AM (uT71O)

28 Hey, gutcheck for all you cons here--are you, by your silence, just going to let this go? Read what IM is advocating. Imagine, just for a moment, that someone had posted something a tad liberal. I think that posting would have had volumes of responses. Someone from the far right fringes advocates violent revolt against our government, calls them "subhumans"....and we get what...silence? Someone says elections are entirely fraudulent, and all of our leaders are criminals...and you guys go, ho-hum, just another day at the office? I'm not saying you agree with him. I'm not trying to paint all conservatives by their most radical assholes (as Fox does with blacks, for example, or many here do with Cindy Sheehan and Michael Moore and the left). I'm just saying--by your silence (particularly compared to your noise when anyone posts anything to the left of Barry Goldwater) you leave yourselves open to those who would take that interpretation.

Posted by: jd at April 13, 2006 01:37 PM (aqTJB)

29 round 'em up and rope 'em off.

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April 11, 2006

Wild Bill Designs New Flag

Bill sends along his new flag for Amerexanada and a new National Anthem too.

Wild Bill : It looks like our government is not going to do anything about illegal aliens, so we should start calling North America what it really is, Amerexanada (or like some like to call it Mexamericanada). Here is my idea for our new flag.

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April 10, 2006

Immigration Tit for Tat

I've been largely silent about the immigration issue because, frankly, I'm conflicted. But check out these immigration laws from Mexico. Draconian, to say the least. Thehomosayswhat:

Foreigners may not in any way participate in the political affairs of the country. This ban applies, among other things, to participation in demonstrations and the expression of opinions in public about domestic politics.

What?

UPDATE: No Speed Bumps says the Democrats have sold out the working class by supporting amnesty for illegals. I dunno. That kind of assumes the Ds cared in the first place....

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1 And your point is? Are you implying that we should be like Mexico? A corrupt nation that has serious trouble proving for its people. I would hope that we aspire to better than that.

Posted by: Peter at April 10, 2006 07:50 AM (QBHjR)

2 No, Peter, his point is that Mexico is a two-faced liar of a nation.

Posted by: jesusland joe at April 10, 2006 08:09 AM (rUyw4)

3 >>>>Democrats have sold out the working class by supporting amnesty for illegals. Democrats haven't stood for the working class since they became the party of "exotic" fringe special interests-- including illegal aliens. The more fringe, the better.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at April 10, 2006 08:55 AM (8e/V4)

4 Actually, Draconian immigration policies are the norm in the vast majority of nations on this planet - even Western Europe until relatively recently (past several decades). Many nations in the world Peter can not provide for all their people - and many of them use emmigration (often illegal) as a means for disposal and safety valve to maintain their own status quos. 20 years ago the argument was over 3-5 million illegals - now its over 8-11 milion (some say as many as 20 mil) - tomarrow it will be over 20-30 milion. As it stands now - the shit hits the fan when the next severe recession comes (inevitable) - and depending on the severity, it could be disasterous and violent. Make no mistake about it - here in NYC high immigration convienently and benignly allows for quiet discrimination against African Americans, Puerto Ricans (weird huh!) and other select groups (depends on who is doing the selecting). There is also a fair degree of discrimination between immigrant groups and legal/illegal status. all this in an economic environment that is extremely good! (though seldom reported for patisan political reasons). When the bubble bursts - watch out!

Posted by: hondo at April 10, 2006 09:27 AM (4mgfY)

5 Amazing isn't it? ...that hundreds of thousands of people each year literally swim rivers, scale walls, suffer desert heat stuffed in closed container boxes, etc etc., all to get into the "GREAT SATAN" (ie. "country with the most corrupt administration in its history"). If I didn't know better, I'd say that this illustrates how tired and weak that condemnation of our country is. What's almost more amazing, is that there are literally MILLIONS of people who believe this Democrap about our nation and President Bush.

Posted by: mrclark at April 10, 2006 09:34 AM (S76hi)

6 Well said, Mrclark!!! If we're so bad, then why the hell are people from damn near EVERY NATION IN THE WHOLE WORLD trying to get here?!?!?!?

Posted by: Lonevoice at April 10, 2006 09:39 AM (CvGtv)

7 hondo, Good to hear from a voice who is right just about every damn time. Haha! It looks like I might have to come up with that Micky D. gift certificate after all.

Posted by: jesusland joe at April 10, 2006 09:44 AM (rUyw4)

8 JJ May need that certificate soon - technically between civilian jobs (unemployed) - will retire soon from Mil Reserve after 27 years total Active/Reserve - got a good solid disability claim pending from LOD injury last Mil activation - hoping for 50% - but could take a long time. Not looking too hard for work - like a vacation - want something close to home - no commute - something mellow - not overly ambitious - modest pay ... 30K is fine (if pension comes thru (tax free!). Spend time working on restoring house - brought 2 years ago cheap - 1880 cottage set in heavily wooded hillside/park overlooking NY Harbor - big time gentrifying area - already doubled in value - fully restored expect 400%+ return. I'm busier now than when I was working for one incredibly corrupt Fed Agency. Spending less time on the net - except job search and computer home design projects. Weather is nice - lots to do - less time for blogs.

Posted by: hondo at April 10, 2006 10:29 AM (4mgfY)

9 My neighbor complained that the Republicans were selling the country down the river by coddling up to the illegal immigrants. When I pointed out that it was the Democrats who were doing this, she was very surprised and didn't believe me. She does watch the nightly news so this is where I think she gets her information on every subject.

Posted by: eeyore at April 10, 2006 10:37 AM (7CmAn)

10 Know that you are missed, my friend! And we will look forward to a time when you will blog more often. Good luck on your job search, and your disability claim. Actually, I have had more time on my hands since I have been working in Arkansas. I'm living in an apartment where I have no yard work or home duties, so through the week I have lots of time to surf the blogs. On weekends, however, when I go home, the wife has a long list of chores for me to do. But I have two teenage sons who work well when you crack the whip! Haha!

Posted by: jesusland joe at April 10, 2006 10:43 AM (rUyw4)

11 Two posts back, hondo centers on the other little mentioned aspects of illegal immigration. There are many 'moral' problems which are created from allowing unabated, unhindered illegal immigration. This isn't only bad for the US....its bad for MEXICO. Google Delinquency and Crime statistics for Mexico and you'll understand that to which I refer. Illegal immigration is having the same effect on Mexican families (in Mexico) as it had on innercity African American families here in the US in the 80 and 90's. The creation of millions of one parent households in Mexico in a relatively short period of time CANNOT BE A GOOD THING.

Posted by: mrclark at April 10, 2006 10:44 AM (S76hi)

12 JJ - Ha ha No sons - one grown daughter - had custody - it was an experience doing it alone - she's the only woman I had paticence with and could tolerate! She dreads coming over 'cause I tend to put her to work - "lets gut the third floor - tear out that retaining wall - grab that chainsaw - drag these concrete blocks up the hillside" - stuff like that! She loves the pets though - cat, 3 raccoons, 1 possum - damn squirrels in the attic and walls! (lil' bastards keep tearing up the new insulation!). Tells me I need a small army of Mexicans! Her husband's Equadorian - him and his buddies just fix cars - don't know jack about construction! Need Mexicans!

Posted by: hondo at April 10, 2006 11:08 AM (4mgfY)

13 Just reference to Hispanic immigration .... Mexico, Central America, South America are on a treadmill to nowhere for 200 hundred years now - they should have been by now on par with at least Europe as far a development - but it hasn't happened - and probably won't. Their own elites (left & right) are perfectly satisfied with their positions - and can always blame the US for their failures. What's different now is modern communications - down there they know its hopeless and the only real opportunity is here. I feel sorry for them - I like them - but .... We argue about the number 8-11 million - make no mistake about it - it can easily jump far beyond that! Right now anywhere between 100-150 million people south of that border would make the jump when the conditions ripen - and I don't mean here! When conditions worsen there! It will happen - its inevitable - and the consequences will be disasterous.

Posted by: hondo at April 10, 2006 12:08 PM (4mgfY)

14 As usual, hondo makes a connection that the rest of us don't see. I had not thought about how economic conditions south of the border might impact illegal immigration. I should have, but this makes it even more imperitive that the southern border be secured.

Posted by: jesusland joe at April 10, 2006 01:12 PM (rUyw4)

15 JJ Most Americans view immigration (legal and illegal) though the rose-colored glasses of American mythology - peoples wanting to come here for opportunity, advancement, freedom etc. etc. Its a two-sided coin - and Americans conveniently forget the other (ugly) side. Peoples are fleeing conditions where they come! FLEEING! Fleeing not just limited opportunity - but REAL poverty, disease, violence, oppression, discrimination (YES! non-whites discriminate massively) etc. Those conditions in many parts of the world will worsen and are as we speak. You can feel sorry for them (I do), but the sheer numbers are potentially staggering! I am not joking when I say the numbers of people who would flee to the US (don't use immigrate!) is in the hundreds of millions. The only thing that stands in the way is ease of access. Remember - we only have one significant border access - otherwise we are surrounded by oceans and Canada. I expect economic and political conditions south of the border to worsen - its almost like a freakin' cycle! They are coming - and it will increase even more dramatically - I would.

Posted by: hondo at April 10, 2006 03:41 PM (4mgfY)

16 Hondo, isn't that why they're building more ICE facilities? To be prepared for a full on invasion of illegals? Or am I just imagining things?

Posted by: Oyster at April 11, 2006 06:01 AM (YudAC)

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April 03, 2006

Populists Beware Of Immigration Reform?

America is a melting pot because people of varying races and backgrounds come to the U.S. and bring their culture, and they choose to learn about America and our way of life. Many immigrants have assimilated. That is what ties us together as a family. When there are millions of illegal immigrants who do not wish to assimilate and go about the proper way to immerse themselves in American culture, and become legal, they undoubtedly isolate themselves. Americans should not feel that, in order to bridge the divide to communicate with an exploding Latino population, that we must take Spanish. - Felicia Benamon (an American first, an Afro-American second)

Edward Gillespie, former chairman of the Republican National Committee in the 2004 election cycle, has a piece titled "Populists Beware" in the Opinion Journal today in obvious support for a temporary guest worker program (surprise - his firm, Quinn Gillespie & Associates, represents clients who support a temporary guest worker program). He warns Republicans that the GOP must not become an anti-immigration party, and he irrationally draws a connection between being "anti-illegal immigrant" and being "anti-immigrant".

According to Gillespie, Republicans in Congress must choose either a comprehensive immigration reform package including a guest-worker program or a narrowly focused border-security bill. He then offers that the former would improve homeland security, help our economy and build greater Republican majorities, but the latter, conversely, would ignore fundamental problems, hurt our economy and risk the party's majority status. To support his premise, Gellespie accurately points out that between 2000 and 2004, President Bush increased his support in the Hispanic community by nine percentage points. Had he not, John Kerry would be president today (Perish the mere thought).

While Gillespie certainly knows his business, and who am I to argue with a political expert, reading his entire piece convinces me that while many of his points are valid, he, like so many of those supporting the guest worker program, fails to look at the issue in a balanced perspective. There's a very big difference between those that have come to America legally, and those that sneak into the country illegally.

No matter how you cut it, those that cross our borders illegally are criminals, and the fact that the U.S. government has failed to protect our borders and has also failed to enforce the enforcement of our laws is itself also criminal. To further fail to enforce the laws that have been criminally ignored is simply encouraging more criminal behavior and the continued invasion of America by an what has clearly become and "army" of illegal aliens in more ways than one.

And while I'm blowing my top, why is it that I keep hearing from politicians and the news media, even Fox TV, that we can't simply throw out 12 million criminals? Why not? Every time one goes to the doctor, a hospital, a school, receives a traffic ticket, applies for any program or job, aren't all of these opportunities to arrest them and spirit them back to where they came from? Shouldn't this have already been done during the last ten years while the federal government has sat back and allowed the problem to now reach a crisis point?

Frankly, I'm getting damned tired of having to go through a bilinqual menu every time I call a business, tired of paying to support services for people that have invaded my country illegally (although I certainly support caring for them during a very brief few days while we are arranging their transportation out of the country), tired of seeing Mexican flags flying over the streets of America, tired of hearing people that barely can speak English tell me on television about all of their rights and telling me what we legal Americas have to do for them while they are trampling all over ours (we have to obey laws, pay taxes, and behave responsibly (as do my kids who are not allowed to skip school), and yes, I'm also very tired of seeing politicians place politics way in front of what's good for America.

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1 If you look back in history, these so called illegal immigrants were here before any americans were!!! Read your history book guys. The english came over here and pushed the indians south and took thier land from them forming what is now the United States and the indians became Mexico. We took from them, go live the life that Mexicans have to live for 1 week, you'll never make it! I have been there and it is not easy! Why can't we just live together and be happy instead of all the bull we put each other through? Do u think in Heaven the Lord is going to separate us?

Posted by: April Castro at April 03, 2006 03:04 PM (msYTX)

2 April, Yes, I can see and have a much better idea of what life in Mexico must be like than many. However, ILLEGAL immigration lets the Mexican government off of the hook of fixin the Mexican economy and giving Mexicans an oppurtunity at home. Up here, the government has to make sure it doesn't pursue economy killing policies because what happens if the economy is driven into the ground? Where would all of our unemployed go? There are Mexican workers up here where I live. I talked to one last year who was tending bar at a local establishment. He is up here working, where are his wife and children? At home apart from him. Is that what the people of Mexico want? There is one other nation on earth in a similar position. Its biggest source of foreign currency is its labor force and that is not what the people want, but it is what they must deal with. I'm all for liberal immigration quotas but not for immigration law violation.

Posted by: Marcus Aurelius at April 03, 2006 03:33 PM (ffPYG)

3 The problem is the quota system. Immigration was last reformed in 1986, a lot has happened since then. People are coming from different place for different reasons today. Rather than having a quota for each country, there should be one number that doesn't pay any attention to country of origin. I'm also not a big fan of the idea that it takes a decade for people to come to the US going through the proper channels - I think we could take a few years off that process with some new technology. As far as the guest worker/blue card program. It's a bad idea to limit people to only "agricultural" jobs. It's damn near immoral to condemn people to entry level jobs with no chance for advancement.

Posted by: KG at April 03, 2006 04:41 PM (SZsz5)

4 Liberals, be they Republicans or Democrats, always resort to ad hominem attacks on those using facts to shut down their arguments. Bush and the liberals who have been, and are heading the GOP have been doing this the last few weeks. Gillespe is just the latest in a long line of liberal (we used to call them Rockerfeller) Republicans to call conservatives names. Liberals of both parties have no shame and not much honor.They play the race card at will. Bush and the "leaders" of the GOP are in the process of destroying the GOP. But we saw this happen in 1992 with another liberal Bush President. Remember Bill "won" with only 42% of the vote, while Bush pulled in 33%. This is not the first time; and will not be the last either.

Posted by: Jo macDougal at April 03, 2006 06:17 PM (c2Gyu)

5 Excuse me, but is "Juan" an Aztec name? Is "Pablo" a Mayan name? No, they are Spanish names -- as in "European Spanish". As in the U.S., there are very few pure-blooded Indians/aboriginals left, so get over yourselves, amigos. The 9% increase among Hispanic voters in the last election was from LEGAL citizen voters. They don't want law-breakers HERE any more than the other Americans.

Posted by: Veritas Regina at April 03, 2006 06:39 PM (jXE2n)

6 "...aren't all of these opportunities to arrest them and spirit them back to where they came from?" Not as long as we keep allowing Los Angeles, New York and other cities to make their own rules by declaring themselves "sanctuary cities". The fact is they're in violation of a federal law, but no one cares. We can't even get a law passed which says they must obey an existing law. Is that ridiculous, or what?

Posted by: Oyster at April 04, 2006 05:50 AM (YudAC)

7 April, you stupid liberal whore, we didn't push the natives out of North America; we pretty much wiped them out. Oh, and by the way, there is now evidence that Europeans crossed into North America some few thousand years before Asians did, so we win again you stupid tart.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at April 04, 2006 06:15 AM (0yYS2)

8 The answer is really quite simple, Its time to "Annex" Mexico. With all we have to offer,Health care, unions and cable TV. lets let the mexicans vote on it! Viva La Annexation!!

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