June 09, 2006
Korean Hostages Freed
As predicted, the Koreans taken hostage by Nigerian rebels have been freed.
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Margaret Cho showed the Nigerian terrorists her cock and the terrorists scattered like cockroaches.
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June 07, 2006
Margaret Hassan Killer Sentenced to Life
(Baghdad) In late 2004, UK/Iraqi citizen and CARE International employee Margaret Hassan was kidnapped and murdered and her body has yet to be found. Hassan's death was known only because Al-Jazeera received a videotape of her execution.
Last May, five people were captured (See here and here) by U.S. Forces and admitted complicity in her killing. The trial of three of the suspected killers has concluded.
From Times Online:
The family of the British aid worker Margaret Hassan today said that a court's decision to acquit two of three Iraqis charged with her murder was a "green light" to kidnappers.
Mrs Hassan's relatives also criticised the British Government's "inept" handling of her abduction and chastised detectives for their "incompetent" investigation which led to today's acquittals.
One of the three accused, Mustafa Salman al-Jabouri, was jailed for life after a hearing lasting only two hours before a panel of judges in Baghdad. He was found guilty of aiding and abetting the kidnappers who snatched Mrs Hassan, 59, as she drove to work in October 2004.
Mrs Hassan's family believe that police failed to gather evidence which would have led to al-Jabouri's conviction for murder, for which there is a mandatory death sentence.
Consequently, three people who were directly complicit with the
execution-style murder of an innocent civilian will not be required to pay the ultimate penalty. Personally,
I believe the justice and law enforcement systems in Iraq have not developed sufficiently to properly investigate and adjudicate criminals, much less murdering terrorist thugs.
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Koreans Taken Hostage in Nigeria
Five South Koreans were taken hostage in Nigeria yesterday. Is this surprising? Of course not! Which part of this equation are people not getting?
Demand ransom + governments and firms pay ransom = more hostage taking
Forbes:
Gunmen kidnapped five South Koreans in an overnight raid on a gas plant in southern Nigeria owned by Shell, the militants and officials from the company and Seoul's Foreign Ministry said Wednesday.
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Though the southern christians certainly have many complaints about unfair treatment by the northern muslim controlled government most of the activity in the south seems to be more criminal than sectarian in nature. The southern part of Nigeria where much of the oil is located is heavily christian.
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John,
Good point which we've covered several times before, but it is interesting that the man behind the hostage taking is a confirmed jihadist and bin Laden supporter.
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They were freed today. Thank God for that. Here's the link.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=2054322&page=2
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Liliana Ake Keeping Hope Alive
Liliana is featured in an article today todayÂ’s Washington Post. The small town of La Porte Indiana waits for word on his fate. Jeff has been missing longer than any hostage ever to return alive. Still her hope and prayers for JeffÂ’s safe return is touching. The town, his wife and children await some word, any word, of his fate while praying for his safe return. Being from a small town myself, trust me the whole town
is his family.
Washington Post :Jeffrey J. Ake is 48 now, if he is alive. He is also a husband and son and the father of four children who miss him terribly. He is a storyteller, a Rotarian and a small-business owner who thrived in distant capitals.
He traveled to Iraq, tools in hand, on a private contract to repair machines at a water-bottling plant. Early one morning in April 2005, the telephone rang at a lakeside rambler in La Porte, 80 miles east of Chicago. An Iraqi man, talking fast in poor English, told Liliana Ake, "We have your husband."
Fourteen months later, nothing is known about his whereabouts, while his family waits and neighbors wonder what to expect after so much silence. No American has been held captive longer in Iraq and come out aliveÂ….
Â…"Nothing at all. For over a year, we haven't heard anything," Liliana Ake explained in her first newspaper interview since her husband's abduction. "We pray every night. My little boy says, 'Bad people in Iraq have my dad. It's not fair.' "
She believes he is alive, perhaps because she must. At the same time, she is bothered by the sense in LaPorte, where people have been supporting her and rooting for her husband, that Jeff is becoming mostly a memory. Signs like the one at the KarMel are fewer. It is as though Jeff Ake is slipping awayÂ….
Â…"Unfortunately, there are not many more cards coming," she said. "Time goes by."
Jeffrey Ake is specialist in water systems. And La Porte Indiana is hardly the center of a Zionist, Imperialist conspiracy. The abduction of Jeffrey Ake shows the callous indifference of the enemies if Iraq who routinely kidnap and murder innocent non-combatants in violation of all rules of warfare. These are the true war criminals! When our men loose their temper or commit a war crime, we bring them to justice. For the terrorist war criminals we fight there this is standard operating procedure.
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Thanks for the post and not letting us forget Jeffrey Ake!
Posted by: Mactastick Rstilicious at June 07, 2006 08:49 AM (JQjhA)
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Screw him. I feel nothing over the death of mercenaries.
Posted by: Markos Moulitsas Zuniga at June 07, 2006 09:26 AM (RIPcF)
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Shut up you bastard. He was a human being. Sadly I believe he's dead. Liliana waited too long to keep his memory alive. The kidnappers have no reason to keep him alive this long without saying a word. Jeffrey, Aban Elias and Dean Sadek are all but forgotten and most likely dead.
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As Jack said, he is after all another human being. I feel for his wife, family and friends. I know what she is going through to some extent as it was my father in Law Norman Kember to whom we owe something to someone for his rescue. What Liliana must be going through can only be shared by someone who has the T-Shirt!!! My thoughts are with her and het family and of course Jeffery.
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As Jack said, he is after all another human being. I feel for his wife, family and friends. I know what she is going through to some extent as it was my father in Law Norman Kember to whom we owe something to someone for his rescue. What Liliana must be going through can only be shared by someone who has the T-Shirt!!! My thoughts are with her and het family and of course Jeffery.
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Cool, I read about you in some internet sites. Sends Norman my regards. I was so relieved when he was rescued. I hope he is all right now. No one deserves to go what he went through.
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How did you find out about this website though? It's not that famous. I'm surprised about how many relatives of hostages find these sites.
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June 05, 2006
Eight Western Hostages, including American, Freed in Nigeria
An American, a Canadian, and six Britons have been freed in Nigeria. Authorities declined to say whether a ransom was paid or not---which is a polite way of saying,
yes, we paid ransom. Expect more hostage taking in Nigeria as this is turning into a lucrative business opportunity.
CBC News:
Eight foreign oil workers kidnapped in Nigeria — including a Canadian — were released Sunday, a local government spokesman said.
"All the hostages have been released. They are with the governor [of Bayelsa state] now," said Ekiyor Welson, a spokesman for the state in the southern Niger Delta region where the eight were kidnapped from an offshore oil rig on Friday.
Thanks to George, our unofficial hostage reporter.
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Hey you guys are kind of late on this information. I recall last year, you were like the first to report on the CPT'ers. And the naming of Tommy Foxy, the christian warrior of passion. What's going on over there?
The American's name is Texas Richards, who works for PEAK.
I still love Jawa, and you all still rock. Madcap
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Madcap,
It's all my wife's fault for believing I could remodel the bathrooms!
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Most Governments in this world pay ransoms. Britain and the U.S are the only ones that don't. Governments will never admit paying ransom though the news organizations will find out anyway. I know that they don't want to lose sleep for letting a hostage lose his head but they have to understand that more kidnappings will happen because of ransom payment.
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June 03, 2006
Four Russians Kidnapped, One Murdered in Iraq
A Russian diplomat was murdered and four embassy workers were taken hostage in Iraq today. It's not entirely clear if this is the act of terrorsists trying to make a political statement or if it is the work of criminals attempting to make money---or a combination of both.
Some sources indicate that the four may have already been rescued. We hope that this is the case.
We pray for the immediate release of these men.
WaPo:
Gunmen ambushed a Russian diplomatic car in Baghdad on Saturday afternoon, killing tne diplomat and kidnapping four others, Iraqi police and the Russian embassy reported.
The car came under attack from armed men in two cars in the Mansour neighborhood of western Baghdad, police Col. Sami Hassan said. An opening fusillade of gunfire killed one embassy worker. When the shooting brought the convoy to a halt, the gunmen kidnapped four others, Hassan said. Iraqi security forces cordoned off the area and began a search for the missing diplomats.
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I remember reading about Russia's handling of kidnappings when it was a cottage industry in Lebanon. The KGB made it clear that kidnapping Russians was a bad idea, so the dirtbags moved on to other targets.
Posted by: fluffy the spamhound! at June 03, 2006 08:55 PM (UxguT)
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What the russians should do is track down the kidnappers and start shooting till not one of them is alive then bring in the heads on top of the bayonnets
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We pray for the immediate release of these men?
I will pray for the release of Russians when they join the fray and quit working against us in Iran.
Perhaps this can me a wake up call for those nations not doing their share of protecting the world from the Islamofacists.
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June 02, 2006
American Among 8 Taken Hostage in Nigeria
Eight Westerners, including one American, working in Nigeria's oil fields have been taken hostage. Unlike other attacks which are usually claimed by the separatist MEND group within hours, this one was not. Whoever is behind the hostage-taking, we demand their immediate and unconditional release.
Reuters:
Gunmen abducted eight foreign workers in a night-time raid on an oil rig off the coast of Nigeria on Friday, raising new security fears after a series of militant attacks that cut output from Africa's top oil producer...
"Some unknown persons boarded the rig at 3 a.m. (0200 GMT) and took eight workers. They are six from the UK, one Canadian and one from the U.S.," said an executive from one of the companies that operate the Bulford Dolphin rig. He denied reports that eight Nigerians were also abducted in the attack.
Hat tip: George.
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May 30, 2006
UAE Diplomat Freed in Iraq after Ambassador Withdrawn
A diplomat from the UAE held hostage in Iraq since May 16th has been released. The man, Naji al-Nuaimi, was being held by a group calling itself the Banner of Islam and had demanded that the UAE break all diplomatic ties with Iraq and that the Dubai baised Al-Fayhaa TV channel be shut down.
On May 18th al Jazeera broadcast a videotape of the hostage. The next day the UAE withdrew its senior diplomat from Iraq. The TV station was not shut down.
AFP:
The captors of a United Arab Emirates diplomat held in
Iraq for a fortnight have freed their hostage, an Emirati foreign ministry official confirmed.
"Emirati diplomat, Naji al-Nuaimi, who was kidnapped in Iraq on May 16, was released this evening," the official said.
We're glad that he was released safely. However, by meeting at least one of the terrorists demands, this will only mean more hostages will be taken in the future.
Hat tip to George.
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Rusty if it was a member of yor family was being held would you pay a ransom ?
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May 24, 2006
Woman Taken Hostage in Iraq by Ansar al-Sunna
The Army of Ansar al-Sunna has taken a female Iraqi translator hostage. In an announcement released on the internet, the group claimed that it had captured
Mayada Salihi, a woman working as a translator for U.S. forces.
In the statement, the group claimed that Salihi was an "apostate" and among their most wanted targets. The Islamist group also claims that they had shot and wounded Ms. Salahi last year, but that she had escaped.
The group also posted several images to confirm that Mayada Salihi had been captured. Among them are several identification badges, including one for the U.S. embassy in Iraq. Two others identify Salihi as an employee of the Iraqi Ministry of Defense.
A series of other photos appear to show a woman posing with various Iraqi and U.S. forces, but her face is is blurred. The woman does appear to be Salahi.
The Army of Ansar al-Sunna is an active terrorist organization in Iraq. The group routinely murders hostages that it deems "apostates". Under Islamic law, the maximum penalty for apostasy is death. Thus, the Islamist groups justifies its murders as the carrying out of the death penalty under the guise of Islamic law.
The statement released by the group claims that two of its members were shopping in Baghdad when they spotted Salihi. They claim that Salihi was some sort of counter-intelligence officer that was hunting them down. Salihi initially fled the two "mujahidin" when they attacked her. They later found her in her car and kidnapped her, even though some Iraqi policemen saw what was happening and tried to stop them.
The group promised to upload a video to the internet in the near future. Unfortunately, this group has distributed dozens of videos of the murder and beheading of hostages in the past.
Mayada Salihi was featured in an article by Knight-Ridder in May of 2003. The author, S. Thorne Harper, describes Mayada Salihi as an outspoken advocate of women's rights in Iraq.:
She's definitely got the attitude – passionate and outspoken. In a country steeped in patriarchy, with little history of free speech, that's never been a problem for the 31-year-old, married mother of two.
"It is difficult here for some women," said Salihi, who prefers make-up, blouses and slacks to conservative Arab fashion. "For me, it's easy. I can say whatever I want."
Salihi first decided to learn English after listening to English language pop-music, including Wham, Paul Anka, and Barbara Streissand. She wanted to know what the lyrics said in their original language.
Salihi worked at a private school teaching English before the war until a U.S. bombe killed one of her neighbors:
Later, still seething, she approached the first U.S. soldier she saw and asked him a tough question.
"I said to him: `I need to know when you are leaving our country,' " she said, sipping on a Pepsi.
The soldier had no answer. Calming her anger, Salihi realized she had to use her English skills to work with the Americans.
She works long hours as a U.S. military translator. Her husband works as a driver and guide for journalists.
This brave woman, who was willing to stand up to the U.S. when she thought they were in the wrong, had been targetted by the so-called 'resistance' in the past:
Four days ago, she discovered four unexploded U.S. cluster bombs in her front yard. She said Iraqis who believe she is working with the U.S. government to arrest members of the former regime placed them there.
"I can't even let my children outside to play anymore," she said. "My house is like a prison."
Ah, yes, the
brave mujahidin terrorizing women and children.
More from Salihi:
She finds a paradox in postwar Iraq. Under Saddam Hussein, she said, there was no freedom of speech but there was adequate security. Under U.S. rule, Iraqis are free to express themselves but no one feels safe.
Salihi warned that Iraqis are beginning to consider this paradox. Unless the U.S. turns things around quickly, she said they might start longing for the old ways.
"There is an old Arab saying, `If you want to know the value of something – like a leader, try the value of another one for a while," she said.
This is the woman the Army of Ansar al-Sunna terrorists accuse of being a "captain" in the Iraqi security forces. This is the woman that they will murder in the name of "legitimate resistance".
We pray that U.S. forces will swiftly find the terrorists who have captured Mayada Salihi and free her before it is too late.
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Michael Moore's "minutemen" strike again. Viva la revolucion!
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at May 24, 2006 03:57 PM (8e/V4)
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Soon a video of a women with her head getting cut off will come from the ROP in Iraq. Of course, it will be America's fault for asking her to be a translator. At least, that is how lefturds will see it, and the U.N. (spit).
ROPMA
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You are actually surprised that they kidnapped a woman. They've been doing it for years. They will kill her though I'm not sure that they will air the video. By the way why are you dissing the minutemen. Sean Hannity likes them and he's a far right tepublican like you. They are just trying to protect the border. Please explain. Thanks.
Posted by: Johnathan Ramirez at May 24, 2006 04:05 PM (CnDtU)
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By the way, do let us know when and if the bastards show the hostage video.
Posted by: jonathan ramirez at May 24, 2006 04:06 PM (CnDtU)
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This be what #5003 or 5004?
Posted by: Brad at May 24, 2006 04:08 PM (3OPZt)
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The MSM will not show the video, it will be time for another Abu Garab picture.
Meanwhile, in New York City where the ROP individuals chant death to Israel, and burn the American flag.
Posted by: Leatherneck at May 24, 2006 05:35 PM (D2g/j)
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Video? It's may already be too late for that. God have mercy on her soul.
Posted by: Thrill at May 24, 2006 06:14 PM (DYb4r)
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Video? It may already be too late for that. God have mercy on her soul.
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May G-d have no mercy on the moon god worshipping POS.
ROPMA
Posted by: Leatherneck at May 24, 2006 06:55 PM (D2g/j)
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I wouldn't wish this on anyone. I hope she gets out of it okay. I can't imagine being subjected to these animals.
Posted by: Oyster at May 24, 2006 08:53 PM (YudAC)
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We won't have to worry about it Oyster, long as there is not much more delay in launching the first round of nukes ...
Posted by: Last gasp Larry at May 24, 2006 09:32 PM (FCC6c)
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Oh, you are saying Michael Moore called the terrorists minutemen. Well that's surprising.
Posted by: Jonathan Ramirez at May 25, 2006 05:13 AM (CnDtU)
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I just cannot imagine the horror she is going thru right now...
We must exterminate these cockroaches!!
We are at WAR and we are in for the FIGHT OF OUR LIVES.
if only we had the balls to unleash our military might...
I'm with Michael Savage, kill the 100 million or so jihadists, that still leaves 900 million Muslims - maybe then we'll have some fucking peace for a while.
Leatherneck - your comments are awesome.. fucking 5th column and ROPmA!
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I personally knew Mayada when I was stationed in Baghdad. She is a good woman who was trying to do her part to make Iraq a better place. She once told me about how in May 2004 she had been tailed home and shot when getting out of her car, and how three months later she was back on the job. When I asked her why she would go back to such a risky job that almost cost her life, she responded "It's my country, it is up to me to help make it better."
The thought of what is or has probably happened to her is sickening.
Posted by: U. S. Marine at May 25, 2006 09:59 AM (bTLPN)
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Well It looks like she's dead now. Stay safe out there Marine.
Posted by: Jack Miller at May 25, 2006 01:13 PM (CnDtU)
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May was a friend of mine, a good friend. I worked with her, day in and day out, for a year (I returned in Feb). I ate meals with her and her mother, played with H and M (her son and daughter), and we exchanged gifts for our kids.
I got word, when they found her body, last week.
I hate.
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My God. I'm terribly sorry. Thanks for the update. It looks like Ansar Al Sunnah decided not to air the video of her execution. They never do when it comes to women. Not even a video of their "confessions". Again I'm sorry.
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May 22, 2006
Ransom Paid for Iraq Hostages.
Why do the terrorists take hostages? Because sometimes it pays.
The Times: FRANCE, Italy and Germany sanctioned the payment of $45 million in deals to free nine hostages abducted in Iraq, according to documents seen by The Times.
All three governments have publicly denied paying ransom money. But according to the documents, held by security officials in Baghdad who have played a crucial role in hostage negotiations, sums from $2.5 million to $10 million per person have been paid over the past 21 months. Among those said to have received cash ransoms was the gang responsible for seizing British hostages including Kenneth Bigley, the murdered Liverpool engineer.
There is a lot more at the above link. IÂ’m glad these people are free. My concern is we have funded the enemy and only encouraged more kidnappings. The UAE Diplomatic hostage comes to mind. There is still no word on his release. Maybe the terrorists think they can get more and are holding out for a better deal. Given this, itÂ’s a reasonable assumption.
Hat Tip : Guy who getÂ’s pissed off too easy.
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The Euro weenies have been paying off terrorists since the Barbary pirates. Then along came Thomas Jefferson, president of the new kickass country called America, and he wiped them all out rather than pay the dhimmi tax. Our first war on terror. Same thing happenning today. The Euros pay the dhimmi tax and we don't.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at May 22, 2006 04:47 PM (8e/V4)
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More than likely the UAE Diplomat " hostage " is resting with his hookah comfortably on plush cushions while being entertained by belly-dancers and watching Al-queda training films.
Posted by: Last gasp Larry at May 22, 2006 05:25 PM (FCC6c)
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No Carlos maybe that was in some movie. If you look in Wikipedia you will find that Thomas Jefferson had to pay a ransom of 60,000 dollars at the conclusion of the First Barbary War 1805. (see aricle 2 of the treaty) in order to affect the release of some 300 American prisoners. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War The Second Barbary War 1815 was somewhat more successfull they paid the USA 10000 and agreed to stop enslaving our cirtizens. However after we left the failed to honor that treaty and it took the Anglo_Dutch and a 9 hour bombardment to settle things right. this is the link to the wikipedia Second Barbary Warhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Barbary_War
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john,
"Then-ambassador to France Thomas Jefferson argued that conceding the ransom would only encourage more attacks."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War
Jefferson had advocated war against the Barbarys for years, but the peacenik president John Adams chose instead to pay the dhimmi tax. Not Jefferson's fault. When he became president he quickly ended the dhimmi tax and when GWOT on them.
http://www.pccua.edu/keough/Thomas%20Jefferson%20and%20the%20Barbary%20Pirates.htm
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at May 22, 2006 10:21 PM (8e/V4)
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john,
but notice how you Libs always find yourself dissing your country no matter what the argument. I point out that our country's history is exceptional, you try to find a way to deny it. You're not even factual in your dissing! I guess if you're a Lib it just goes with the territory! No wonder so many people think you're all traitorous scum and want you hung from overpasses!
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at May 22, 2006 10:28 PM (8e/V4)
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I am just trying to set the historical record straight. At the end of the first Barbary Pirates War we did pay a ransom of 60000 dollars. Is that a fact ? It is in wikipedia. Carlos was a ransom of 60000 paid ? And when did we wipe them out ? Wasn't the major engagement done by the euro weenies ? the Anglo Dutch ? The ransom was paid durring the time Jefferson was president in 1805. Are these facts in dispute ? Also it was the federalists under Adams hardly a peacenik, that built up the navy, backed by New England shipbuilders and ship owners. here is more from wikipedia.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_jefferson
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Also according to wikipedia the US continued to make payments until 1815 POlewas see the section titled Barbary Pirates and the US Navy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_pirates
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>>>are these facts in dispute ?
Yes, they kinda are. I am not aware that a ransom was paid while Jefferson was president. It would obviously be contrary to his well-known feelings about paying such ransoms.
"On Jefferson's inauguration as president in 1801, Yussif Karamanli, the Pasha (or Bashaw) of Tripoli demanded $225,000 from the new administration. Putting his long-held beliefs into practice, Jefferson refused the demand. Consequently, in May of 1801, the Pasha declared war on the United States, not through any formal written documents, but by cutting down the flagstaff in front of the U.S. Consulate. Morocco, Algiers, and Tunis soon followed their ally in Tripoli.
In response, Jefferson sent a group of frigates to defend American interests in the Mediterranean, and informed Congress.
Although Congress never voted on a formal declaration of war (hmmm, sound familiar?), they did authorize the President to instruct the commanders of armed vessels of the United States to seize all vessels and goods of the Pasha of Tripoli "and also to cause to be done all such other acts of precaution or hostility as the state of war will justify.""
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War
Furthermore, the euroweenies did not wipe out the Barbarys. The extent of their engagements previous to America's efforts was the occassional bombing of Barbary ports, but never as part of a campaign to end their pillaging. Too much time and trouble, easier just to pay the dhimmi tax. They were weenies then, just as they are now. Nothing has changed. It took American resolve to get the Barbary's to start signing peace treaties. Nothing has changed apparently. If you want to know more, read:
Jefferson's War: America's First War on Terror
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0786712325/104-9077234-3113568?v=glance&n=283155
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at May 23, 2006 11:20 AM (8e/V4)
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It seems that during the War of 1812 against the Brits, the dhimmi tax was paid to the Barbarys because we couldn't afford to send a fleet over there. But once that war ended with the Brits we once again went to war with the Barbarys, and it was then that we finished the job in 1815.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Barbary_War
The Euroweenies apparently continued to pay the dhimmi tax until 1830. lol!!!!
"It was not until 1815 that naval victories ended tribute payments by the U.S., although some European nations continued annual payments until the 1830s."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_pirates#Barbary_pirates_and_the_U.S._Navy
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at May 23, 2006 11:35 AM (8e/V4)
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Not so. Terrorists take hostages because they are to cowardly to fight straight up.
Posted by: greyrooster at May 23, 2006 05:27 PM (BEvWK)
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Allways the them kidnapping people for ramson was the reason the America sent my beloved Marine Corps to kick their asses. A great tradition still in use today.
Posted by: greyrooster at May 23, 2006 05:35 PM (BEvWK)
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I can agree with marines kickine their asses as being great but not the kidnapping.
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May 19, 2006
UAE diplomat Naji al-Noaimi. Released
Good News!
Yahoo News :His brother, Mohammed al-Nuaimi, said the family had been told by the government that he was free, but they did not know how his release came about.
"The officials just told us that he was released and he was on his way to the embassy," al-Nuaimi said from his home in Dibba, a town in the southern Emirates.
"We have no details on how he has been released."
It could be insurgent leaders were uncomfortable with these illegal terror tactics. Still does not excuse taking him to start with. I like it when it ends this way ,especially after only three days. Reports are no demands (at least the public ones) were met.
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Update 18:51 CDT : Still no confirmation he has arrived safely.
Update 05/20 : Still no confirmation. We pray we have it soon. It seems there has been a snag develop.
NDTV : The government declined to comment on the reported release, but the official news agency WAM reported that the UAE charge d'affairs in Baghdad, Ali Seif al-Kaabi, had returned home to brief the Foreign Ministry on the latest developments in the kidnapping.
In Baghdad, Lt Col Falah al-Mohamedawi of the Iraqi Interior Ministry said the government has imposed an official blackout on news of any prospective release of the UAE diplomat
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Another ransom paid to help fund the terrorists!
Posted by: Last gasp Larry at May 19, 2006 12:16 PM (FCC6c)
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Most of the kidnapping in Iraq have done by criminal gangs with ransom profit being the motive more than any political agenda. The numbers have been changing of late as more have been kidnapped as part of a torture/murder reason as part of sectarian violence/civil war.
Posted by: john ryan at May 19, 2006 12:52 PM (TcoRJ)
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John Ryan's post was edifying, though woefully offbase.
Intel Guy
Posted by: Capster at May 19, 2006 02:25 PM (IARJ7)
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I blame the liberals for this one. Let the guy get his head cut off why fund the terrorists? Let start taking liberals hostage . . . .
Posted by: Garner at May 19, 2006 03:38 PM (x7v0S)
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Don't forget his driver was fatally shot in this event.
Posted by: Ernie Oporto at May 19, 2006 03:59 PM (/lpvu)
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Yeah. The drivers seem to always get the short end of the stick. By the way, get used to soon seeing road signs in Spanish/English. DamnBushsty!
Posted by: Last gasp Larry at May 19, 2006 04:16 PM (FCC6c)
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I wonder what would have happened had he been Christian or Jewish?
Posted by: greyrooster at May 19, 2006 07:31 PM (AWtJU)
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I don't think this hostage has been freed. Nobody can confirm this. Not even the guy's family. You might want to point that out. Hopefully we'll find out tomorrow.
Posted by: Kevin Spade at May 19, 2006 07:40 PM (CnDtU)
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meanwhile we'll just have to chew on the dozens of others that weren't so fortunate to make it out alive today ...
Posted by: Last gasp Larry at May 19, 2006 08:42 PM (FCC6c)
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No ransom has been paid but the top diplomat for the UAE has left Iraq. That was one of the demands for the release of Naji Al Noami. The diplomat has not been released yet.
Posted by: Charles Logan at May 20, 2006 05:49 AM (CnDtU)
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Are you sure you didn't see any money change hands Charles?
Posted by: Last gasp Larry at May 20, 2006 08:38 AM (FCC6c)
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If they did the government isn't saying anything. When terrorists found out Susanne Osthoff was released due to ransom, Two Germans were kidnapped and held for three months. They were released but how it happened has not been revealed.
Posted by: Charles Logan at May 20, 2006 11:53 AM (CnDtU)
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May 18, 2006
UAE Diplomatic Hostage in Video
al-Jazeera has aired a video of UAE diplomat Naji al-Noaimi. They threaten his life if their demands are not met. They demand that the UAE close itÂ’s Iraqi embassy and also shut down that Dubai broadcast station al-Fayha be shut down.
Reuters :DUBAI, May 18 (Reuters) - An Iraqi group on Thursday issued a video of a United Arab Emirates diplomat kidnapped in Baghdad, and demanded that the Gulf state close its embassy in Iraq, Al Jazeera television reported.
The channel aired the video from the group calling itself Islam's Banner which showed a man standing next to a wall. No audio could be heard on the brief footage.
The group issued a 24-hour ultimatum for its demands to be met.
Diplomat Naji al-Noaimi was snatched on Tuesday following a short drive from the embassy to visit a colleague. His driver was shot in the kidnapping and later died of his wounds.
"The group demanded in a message accompanying the video ... that the UAE embassy in Baghdad be closed and al-Fayha channel which broadcasts from Dubai be shut down," Al Jazeera said.
The group name seems to me a cover for an al-Qeada type terror cell. This has all the hallmarks of previous kidnappings only the name is new.
Related: UAE diplomat Kidnapped in Iraq.
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Maybe Al-Jazeera is just trying to shut down competition from al-Fayha ??? And using their friends in Al-Qeada to do it.
Posted by: memphis761 at May 18, 2006 02:22 PM (D3+20)
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Who cares? The only good arab is a dead arab.
I pray they slaughter this arab piece of filth and then our soldiers in turn slaughter them.
Death to all arabs!
Posted by: Unashamed Patriot at May 19, 2006 01:00 AM (y+196)
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It's not Al-Qeada. A lot of people mistake the Islamic Jihad Army for Al-Qeada becuase it's media figure head 'Abu Musab al-Zarqawi' got all fired up during one of his taping sessions and began spouting off about how they were throwing thier lot in with Bin Laden and Al-Qeada.
Bush was quick to trumpet this detail due to the fact that his Bin Laden - Hussien connection had already run dry. In the months that followed however, Bin Laden released a tape that responded to Al-Zarqawi's declaration and illustrated a difference in ideals between the two factions. The Islamic Jihad Army never again reffered to themselves as Al-Qeada and went even further to consistantly state that they were not responsable for 9/11.
Thier organization is very loose. Loose enough to have differences of opinion that go on for some time before the administration corrects it. There have even been a few occasions when hostages were released at the last minute not becuase thier demands were met but instead becuase a higher up pulled the plug at the very last minute. It would therefor outline the difficulty of contacting smaller squads if you beleave they have kidnapped say... A human rights activist instead of a Haliburton employee.
BTW- Don't bad mouth arabs. When you talk about killing them you are basically justifying 9/11 to the rest of the world. Be ashamed. Be very ashamed.
Posted by: Calist at May 19, 2006 05:15 AM (dybt/)
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UP is banned seven days.
Calist : He does that on purpose. It's us he is attacking and you at the same time. I've been wathing him. Tired of it.
Posted by: Howie at May 19, 2006 07:48 AM (uZUQx)
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Why can't you ban Improbulus Maximus. He's worst than UP. He threatens to rape teenagers'parents.
Posted by: Kevin Spade at May 19, 2006 09:15 AM (CnDtU)
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So how much money do they want from UAE?
Posted by: bigfire at May 19, 2006 09:43 AM (i5qPG)
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I didn't realize that both Howie and Calist are Arabs! If Arabs were worth a crap they would hunt down their own terrorists ... but no, they are silent because they like what they see!
Posted by: Last gasp Larry at May 19, 2006 12:32 PM (FCC6c)
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Yeah yeah. whatever. So now you are defending UP?
Of course I knew you would say that. UP is a cheap copy crap false flag troll.
To make it fair I'll do the same to IM based upon his posts. The amount annoyance he makes me feel. I'll also factor in the amount of time I have to spend supervising him. As well as the amount of respect shown the blogger.
Improbulus Maximus is banned for 15 seconds.
Happy now assholes?
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Posted by: Howie at May 19, 2006 01:29 PM (D3+20)
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No need to be a prick!
Posted by: Kevin Spade at May 19, 2006 01:43 PM (CnDtU)
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I'm not defending him. I'm not a racist. I have a few arab friends. I'm just saying don't single out UP when other bloggers have insulted arabs too.
Posted by: Kevin Spade at May 19, 2006 01:44 PM (CnDtU)
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Kevin Spade is probably George Ramos.
Posted by: Oyster at May 19, 2006 03:12 PM (QQzPp)
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I don't know folks, Don't know why I keep scrolling for IM's comments, ignoring most of the rest, I must be coming down with a case of Maximus Improbulitis!
Posted by: Last gasp Larry at May 19, 2006 04:23 PM (FCC6c)
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Gosh, and after all the ado about the Dubai Ports deal, I was CONVINCED that UAE is a terrorist nation! You mean that a UAE diplomat getting kidnapped by other terrorists is BAD? Whoa, my worldview has been warped.
Posted by: Thrill at May 19, 2006 09:27 PM (DYb4r)
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Kevin Spade: Are you a spade. You think like one.
Posted by: greyrooster at May 19, 2006 09:44 PM (AWtJU)
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Just a ploy to shake down rich arabs to fun(d) the terrorists. Didn't take long either by Jill Carroll standards. Instead of hunting down the terrorists they stick out like a sore thumb as terrorist enablers.
Posted by: Last gasp Larry at May 19, 2006 09:54 PM (FCC6c)
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Who the fuck is George Ramos? This is my first time on the board. You do realize that there are billions of people in the world with lots of views. Oh and get a real name Oyster. What kind of name is that?
Posted by: Kevin Spade at May 20, 2006 05:32 AM (CnDtU)
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Who the heck is Kevin Spade?
Posted by: Howie at May 20, 2006 07:15 AM (D3+20)
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Kevin Spade thinks he can waltz right in sit right down and start slamming. No one ascends to that status without doing the groundwork. Take a tip from me, you got to go the distance and be subject to ridicule, hazing and slander before you can assume the ranks of the exalted!
And leave Oyster alone. I am Oyster's official heckler!
Posted by: Last gasp Larry at May 20, 2006 08:51 AM (FCC6c)
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Ain't it the truth. Sorry if I upset anyone. I have no beef with anyone. Sorry for being a jackass. I'll calm down.
Posted by: Kevin Spade at May 20, 2006 11:54 AM (CnDtU)
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No problem Spade, I'm just funnin' ya! And preparing you for the likes of IM and Jesusland Carlos ... they will surely ream you a new one ....
Posted by: Last gasp Larry at May 20, 2006 01:34 PM (FCC6c)
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"I'll calm down." Now I'm sure Kevin doesn't know ehere he ended up.
Get in there Kevin and post all you want. Get em. You reacted exactly the opposite as you should. the more hell they give you the more you go. Get it. they are regulars but don't let em get to you. Go for it. speak freely and it's free too!
Posted by: Howie at May 21, 2006 11:00 AM (D3+20)
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Kidnapping in Iraq.
one of My buds who's been in Iraq for the last two years [spook, green zone] says that the mix between organized crime, militias and the terrorists is something to behold. He's also getting depressed because he sees the Pols/Generals pulling back now instead of increasing op tempo and kicking some muj ass.
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May 17, 2006
UAE Diplomat Kidnapped in Iraq
Another war crime in Iraq, an UAE diplomatic official has been kidnapped in Iraq. The kidnapping and murder of diplomatic officials in Iraq has been a hallmark of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and al-Qeada.
Reuters : A United Arab Emirates diplomat in Iraq is believed to have been kidnapped, the UAE's state news agency WAM said on Tuesday.
It said that contact was lost with one of the diplomats based in the UAE embassy in Baghdad. "We believe he has been kidnapped," WAM quoted a foreign ministry official as saying.
He said the UAE was actively involved in humanitarian efforts in Iraq and is closely working with the Iraqi government and regional states to protect Iraq's unity, WAM reported.
Iraqi police sources said on Tuesday evening gunmen broke into the house where the UAE diplomat, Naji al-Noaimi, was staying and abducted him. They gave no further details.
"We lost touch with him," Noaimi's brother Mohammed told Dubai-based Al Arabiya TV by telephone. "Everyone knows that the UAE embassy is doing a lot of good work in the humanitarian field," Mohammed said, his voice choking up in tears.
More than 200 foreigners and thousands of Iraqis have been kidnapped since the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003.
Last year, al Qaeda militants in Iraq killed the Egyptian mission chief in Baghdad, two Algerian envoys, and two Moroccan embassy staff. The group has sworn to kill other Arab diplomats if their countries recognize Iraq's government.
It does seem to fit the pattern of al-Qaeda to kidnap and murder those attempting to help the people of Iraq even fellow Arabs. Many times these high value diplomats and other hostages are held while the terrorist release demands that the target nation withdraw all assistance from Iraq.
The trend IÂ’ve noticed lately is that while the Sunni/baathist insurgernt groups are co-operating with al-Qeada, the al-Qaeda methods of car and suicide bombing are being replaced by the more direct targeted killings.
This man is a diplomat and kidnapping or harming his is against all the principals of war. He must be released immediately. One email calling my attention to this issue suspects that only ZarqawiÂ’s al-Qeada in Iraq would stoop so low. He also feels itÂ’s likely he will appear in a video or be killed. Knowing al-QaedaÂ’s record, IÂ’m afraid I agree. Our thoughts go out to this mans family and the UAE. We pray he will be released quickly and safely.
The Jawa Report will update as more news becomes available or if any demands surface.
Jawa Report Hostage archive here.
Related : Still no word on American hostage Jeffrey Ake who was kidnapped while working to supply fresh water to the people of Iraq.
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Jeffrey Ake, Dean Sadek and Aban Elias are unfortunately dead. Their kidnappers have said nothing since May 6 2004, December 24, 2004 and May 1, 2005 respectively. Roy Hallums has the record for being held the longest at 10 months in captivity.
Posted by: Jonathan Ramirez at May 17, 2006 09:27 AM (CnDtU)
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Aban Elias, Dean Sadek and Jeffrey Ake are unfortunately dead. Their kidnappers have said nothing since May 6 2004, December 24, 2004 and May 1, 2005 respectively. Roy Hallums has the record for being held the longest at 10 months in captivity.
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May 07, 2006
The Bloody Murder of Muslim Jouralist Atwar Bahjat
Sickening
Via The London Times Online :
Update: See Rusty here who says, "Ah young Paducan learn to trust your feelings". (Note extended entry was posted yesterday.)
Nobody but her killers knew just how much she had suffered until a film showing her death on February 22 at the hands of two musclebound men in military uniforms emerged last week. Her familyÂ’s worst fears of what might have happened have been far exceeded by the realityÂ….
...We now know that it was not that swift for Bahjat. First she was stripped to the waist, a humiliation for any woman but particularly so for a pious Muslim who concealed her hair, arms and legs from men other than her father and brother.
Then her arms were bound behind her back. A golden locket in the shape of Iraq that became her glittering trademark in front of the television cameras must have been removed at some point — it is nowhere to be seen in the grainy film, which was made by someone who pointed a mobile phone at her as she lay on a patch of earth in mortal terror.
By the time filming begins, the condemned woman has been blindfolded with a white bandage.
It is stained with blood that trickles from a wound on the left side of her head. She is moaning, although whether from the pain of what has already been done to her or from the fear of what is about to be inflicted is unclear...
...A large man dressed in military fatigues, boots and cap approaches from behind and covers her mouth with his left hand. In his right hand, he clutches a large knife with a black handle and an 8in blade. He proceeds to cut her throat from the middle, slicing from side to side.
Her cries — “Ah, ah, ah” — can be heard above the “Allahu akbar” (God is greatest) intoned by the holder of the mobile phone.
Even then, there is no quick release for Bahjat. Her executioner suddenly stands up, his job only half done. A second man in a dark T-shirt and camouflage trousers places his right khaki boot on her abdomen and pushes down hard eight times, forcing a rush of blood from her wounds as she moves her head from right to left.
Only now does the executioner return to finish the task. He hacks off her head and drops it to the ground, then picks it up again and perches it on her bare chest so that it faces the film-maker in a grotesque parody of one of her pieces to camera.
The voice of one of the Arab worldÂ’s most highly regarded and outspoken journalists has been silenced. She was 30....
...I found it hard enough to bear the news of her murder. When I saw it replayed, it was as if part of me had died with her. How much more gruelling it must have been for a close family friend who watched the film this weekend and cried when he heard her voice.
The friend, who cannot be identified, knew nothing of her beheading but had been guarding other horrifying details of BahjatÂ’s ordeal. She had nine drill holes in her right arm and 10 in her left, he said. The drill had also been applied to her legs, her navel and her right eye. One can only hope that these mutilations were made after her death.
Also see the Mudville Gazette who adds:
Regardless of which side in the conflict killed her (and I have my own thoughts on that - in the eyes of her killers her greatest crime was most likely being a woman outside of a kitchen) the London Times reporter can't resist a mild apology for their act:Just as Bahjat bore witness to countless atrocities that she covered for her television station, Al-Arabiya, during IraqÂ’s descent into sectarian conflict, so the recording of her execution embodies the depths of the countryÂ’s depravity after three years of war.
In truth, it represents a depth of depravity achieved over centuries. From the description, her killers hadn't just conceived or improvised their method execution on the spot - they seem to have been well practiced. But such is the nature of the enemy in this war, and perhaps this is their most sacred and well honed knowledge: if a brutality can be inflicted that exceeds all human ability to comprehend, the humans will find a way to deny it
Blue Crab Boulevard says :
This is the face of evil itself. That the monsters choose to hide behind masks shows how deeply depraved and cowardly they really are. We must remember we are at war. Or that face will show itself again and again.
Robert Spencer at Jihad Watch chimes in with the following: Anyone who thinks that God's greatness is established by such acts of barbaric cruelty must be resisted at all costs.
I want to add one thought. I know this is a horrid thing. IÂ’ve seen several of these things and they turn my stomach. I dread having the even think of it. But this video should be released as respectfully and responsibly as possible. Hard to do I know, but the public must be shown this evil. Otherwise how are they to know the truth. Also I have an all too realistic awareness of what the
threat below really means. We don't
want to release it but we feel we
have to release it. The Jawa Report will bring you updates if and when it becomes available. Our prayers go out to Atwar Bahjat and her family.
Others : Malkin and Captains Quarters.
See our beheading archive; Warning Graphic Images.
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>>> This is the face of evil itself
There's just no other way to describe it.
Posted by: Graeme at May 07, 2006 11:59 AM (XF1Ly)
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True Graeme, although liberals will fall all over themselves to make excuses for the animals who do such things.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at May 07, 2006 12:01 PM (0yYS2)
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The people that did this were not social or political liberals I have yet to see any liberals making any excuses for this. IM could you provide us some links ?
Posted by: john Ryan at May 07, 2006 12:37 PM (TcoRJ)
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DING DING DING. I thunk he's talking about the reporter. It does boggle the mind you can see the struggle of the liberal in that one quote. It's admirable that she wants to understand shows she is a caring person in my book But she can't it's beyond evil. Satanic I'd call it in a chilling way. I think it underscores the stuggle on the left how to be left and still fight these people who have no respect for life. It's beyond a moderate liberal democracys imagination Left Right Middle whatever. It's freaking evil doubleclutch!
Posted by: Howie at May 07, 2006 12:56 PM (D3+20)
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I don't know why this surprises anyone. The animals learned this behavior and received plenty of practice under the regime of Saddam. The hate they display is a learned behavior, not something that comes natural to anyone. Saddam was a great teacher.
Posted by: jesusland joe at May 07, 2006 01:44 PM (rUyw4)
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John Ryan: Excuses include, but are not limited to A) blaming America and the West for being the cause for these actions and/or B) not saying anything at all - as if it isn't.even.happening.
WE have those who constantly harp on how bad the West is, how they're the "oppressors" yet, when this is the reaction, they're strangely silent. They know damn good and well there is no excuse for what happened to this woman and to bring it up detracts from their argument.
When cornered, they often say, "Well, er, uh, of course that's wrong ...... but," Why must they equivocate?
Sometimes, something is just so evil - there
IS nothing else. There
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Posted by: Oyster at May 07, 2006 02:42 PM (YudAC)
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Anyone have a link to the video?
Not to put the cruelty and stupidity of this act into the shade, but the depiction brings to mind something that I've noticed in all the Angry Arab beheading videos.
Why can't Arabs sharpen a knife? Historically they've always used slashing weapons, and a dull scimitar is pretty useless, so when did they forget how to use a whetstone?
One of the videos I've seen featured a beheading so botched it could have passed for a Saturday Night Live skit if the knife had been fake. Maybe you've seen it--the victim is in a chair, bound hand and foot, and some lumpy goombah in a homemade ninja suit comes up behind him to do the deed. Problem is, not only is the knife dull but the idiot (obviously not a Boy Scout) is cutting toward himself. Naturally, as he tries to saw the dull blade through the skin, the victim squirms out of the chair and tucks his chin, so the executioner and his buddies end up sliding around in a puddle of blood trying to wrestle the guy while avoiding getting cut by their own knife. After some minutes of this there is a break in the video after which the killer displays the freshly detached head and holds forth on God's greatness, utterly oblivious to the irony of the scene. (My thought was, if this clusterfark is an example of God's greatness, what does it look like when He isn't really trying?)
I suspect the dull-knife phenomenon is Arab rather than Muslim, because I've seen the infamous Chechen beheading video and it's worlds apart. If there can be such a thing as a good beheading video, this is it. In fact, the whole thing is handled so businesslike it resembles an instructional video for people who want to take up beheading as a hobby (and knowing the Chechens it may well be.) They've got all the cardinal points covered. The victim on the ground, so he can't flop over. The killing is done outdoors, so everyone keeps their traction and nobody has to mop up. The victim's head is firmly clamped to a large flat rock by the executioner's boot, so there will be no writhing about. The knife is big and razor-sharp. There is no posturing nor ecstatic ululating nor reading from the Scripture, though all celebrants apart from their guest are zealous Muslims. The executioner carefully places the point just below the victim's ear, edge away from himself, and strokes easily through the neck in less than 5 seconds. Presumably the head was removed for taxidermy after the twitching was over, but this was rightly judged a separate task.
Posted by: ShannonKW at May 07, 2006 02:59 PM (dT1MB)
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Hey! Dont knock the Religion of Peace! My liberal President says you narrow minded xenophobes are just making trouble. We need to give the Jihadists a chance! The Jihadist is just like you and me.
If you cant believe my liberal President who can you believe?
Posted by: Rod Stanton at May 07, 2006 03:04 PM (EgoYF)
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No! Its ot the left winger in the White House that likes Jihadists. Its his less than capable PC AG Alberto that like Jihadists.Your liberal President does not car either way.
Posted by: Jo macDougal at May 07, 2006 03:43 PM (EgoYF)
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The knife is dull to insure maximum pain & suffering.It is like trying to behead someone with a huge butter knife.The people doing these things are "Satanists" & they KNOW that they are "Satanists."Everybody has their own opinion of Islam.To me,whats the difference between yelling "Allahu Akbar" & "Hallelujah,Praise the Lord" while doing this vile crime.My point is that these people are trying their best to villify the religion of Islam,just like they would Christianity &/or Judaism.These very same people could be beheading people here in the U.S. or say,Northern Ireland in the "name" of the Christian's God.This is not about belief,this is about attacking a belief & misrepresenting the belief in order to damage it.This killing was not done in the name of religion but to attack religion & to cast the certain targeted religion in a bad light & we are more than happy to take the bait.
Posted by: Roy Smith at May 07, 2006 03:50 PM (AoEIx)
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Roy, I'm not sure I understand your post, but if you are saying this killing was not done in the name of religion, of course it was. Islam needs to undergo the same reformation and reexamination that Christianity did coming out of the Middle Ages. Jews annihilated non-Jews (read the old testament, they took over entire towns, killed all the men (down to infants), raped all the women, all at God's orders). Christians for centuries behaved with extreme brutality, towards heretics and non-believers, beheading, burning, etc. Islam has come into confrontation with modernity all at once, over a 100 year period, as an external, foreign, dominating power, whereas for us it was internal, gradual, and positive for our relative power in the world. This is NOT making excuses for the animals who beheaded this women--they should be treated as military enemies--but it is to say that this IS a problem of religion, within a major religion. The president is right: what is needed is not a war against Islam but a war within Islam. We must take sides with people like this woman, against people like these beheaders. Samuel Huntington, who predicted in the late 80s that "the borders of Islam will be bloody" was prescient on just this point.
Posted by: jd at May 07, 2006 04:25 PM (aqTJB)
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Roy do you really believe that crap.
Posted by: Howie at May 07, 2006 04:28 PM (D3+20)
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Good points JD, but the difference is that when muslims commit atrocities, their behavior is sanctioned by the koran, so there can be no reformation.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at May 07, 2006 04:30 PM (0yYS2)
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Shannon : I've not come across the video yet. As I inderstand I was sent to the family and they shared it with the Times. Obviously it would be very difficult for the family to release that. I've requested it and or selected images and will keep looking as well.
Posted by: Howie at May 07, 2006 04:31 PM (D3+20)
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If I said who I really believe was doing these killings,Then my house would be filled with aluminum foil for making those hats to protect my brain.Somebody is doing all of the killing in Iraq.I would not be surprised if all of a sudden a "Christian" version of Bin Ladin &/or Zarqawi will come on the scene & in the name of "Jesus" proclaim himself a "Crusader" & commit acts of terror which will of course be a misrepresentation of all who would consider themselves Christians.If you can understand what I am saying from this angle then you can understand how people who call themselves Muslims would say that the persons doing this crime must be Israelis & or the Mossad.This is NOT to blame Israel at all,they are just saying that they cannot believe a muslim could commit such a crime.I could just as easily blame the illuminati,freemasons,...Opus Dei,you get the picture.It is hard to believe that what we Christian Americans would call "true Christians" or what Iraq would call "true Muslims" would commit such a crime.I believe these people who killed this women are "Satanists."They may not call themselves that,but they knowingly embrace evil.They have an agenda to cause unrest in Iraq.They could be Iraqi or foreign fighters from surrounding countries,they could be Israel,they could be Iranian,They could be American(which I know is a very cynical thought).NOBODY REALLY KNOWS who is doing all of these killings.We just know who we want to believe is doing it.
Posted by: Roy Smith at May 07, 2006 04:57 PM (AoEIx)
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Seeing as how the Old Testament calls for stoning homosexuals, killing people who refuse to honor their parents, or blaspheme against God, along with many other extraordinarily violent responses, including wars of extermination, all supported by God, I'm encouraged by modern Judaism's disavowal of those things. Even the Orthodox and ultra-Orthodox do not practice those. There are passages in the Koran that are equally or more disturbing. I'm confident that moderate interpretations and reinterpretations can prevail, although I'm not convinced they will, or will do rapidly.
As for Christianity: yes, it does preach, in the New Testament, a much more loving attitude than the Old Testament (altho not without its brutality). It is clear to me that Christianity is, as doctrine, a better fit for modernity than Islam. It did, however, take us hundreds of years to stop violently waging war in the name of God, massacring those who took a different view of God, etc. Ironically enough, it is the one aspect of Islam that is most "modern" compared to historic Christianity that has prevented its authoritative evolution: its diffuse lines of authority. Christians, for whatever reason, have tended to organize around established lines of ecclesiastical hierarchy (Baptists excepted). Thus, when Christianity reformed, each denomination could do so in a relatively organized fashion. Islam lacks any such organized leadership, a tragedy as they try and reform.
Of course, I know, IM that you don't consider any of these faiths worthy of your support, so it is to some extent an academic debate for you, isn't it? And if you don't have any religion, upon what morality do you base your wars of extermination against liberals and Muslims? Randian objectivism? Nietzschean ubermenschery? Nihilistic libertarianism? Secular humanism? Neofascism?
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It is about ideology, with religion as the driving force, I posted this @ jihad watch but it's worth repeating here:
I was reading this the other night, and it jumped out at me, while it discusses Communism, and Nazism et al, it really applies to Islam too:
Ideology -- that is what gives evildoing it's long-sought justification and gives the evildoer the necessary steadfastness and determination. That is social theory which helps to make his acts seem good instead of bad in his own and other's eyes, so that he won't hear reproaches and curses but will receive praise and honors. That is how the agents of the Inquisition fortified their wills: by invoking Christianity; the conquerors of foreign lands, by extolling the grandeur of their Motherland; the colonizers, by equality, brotherhood of future generations. Thanks to ideology, the twentieth century was fated to experiment evildoing on a scale calculated in the millions. --
Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago.
Posted by: davec at May 07, 2006 05:06 PM (CcXvt)
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YOu guys seem so amazed- The muslim is an animal. They walk like an animal, talk like an animal and you seem su-prised when they act like animals.
It is high time we treated them like the animals they are.
Butcher them. Put them to sleep. Put them in cages.
Jebus, I won't let one of the buggers step on my lawn. Bad for the grass.
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Evil is a force in this world and yes, there are evil people. Don't let Liberals tell you otherwise. They live in a fantasy world were closing your eyes to the obvious is considred a virtue.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at May 07, 2006 05:45 PM (8e/V4)
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What a sick ass world we live in. There are people who probably deserve to die like that, but this victim wouldn't seem to be one of them. The fact that one human being can do this to another is incomprehensible. Which leads me to the unavoidable conclusion that the killers are SUB human.
Posted by: Richard at May 07, 2006 05:51 PM (7KF8r)
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jd,
"Islam needs to undergo the same reformation and reexamination that Christianity did coming out of the Middle Ages."
Are you sure Islam "needs" this, or that we in the West would approve of them more if the Koran stopped being an obstacle to adopting our moral beliefs?
The West has greatly benefited by rubbishing some of the more inconvenient of the Bible's teachings. But you should be careful to distinguish between teachings that are truly impractical and those that are merely incompatible with modern moral vogue. For example, the requirement to forgive wrongdoers would make justice and civilization impossible, so we gain a real demonstrable benefit by ignoring it; but rules about modest dress and sexual conduct don't restrict anything but your right to party, so we could impose these on our people and be just as civilized as we are now (though grumpier.)
I mention this because when Westerners look at Islamic countries with an eye toward junking the rules that are supposedly holding them back, they always pick the wrong ones. The plight of Muslim women, for example, wets no end of hankies in the West, but there is no point in emancipating the women in some countries. The U.S. could afford to do this after we industrialized and babymaking became a burden rather than blessing. Sure, we take a self-congratulatory attitude toward it now as though we suddenly awoke to how evil it was to keep 'em barefoot and pregnant, but it's no coincidence that we had this epiphany when the economy had found better things for them to do.
Personally, I think the biggest things holding back Muslim countries are their penchant for nationalized industry combined with a lack of rule of law, but it's unclear how this can be pinned on the religion (not that I'd be surprised if it could...)
Posted by: ShannonKW at May 07, 2006 06:41 PM (dT1MB)
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JD, I'm not really into "isms", so I don't need any ideological support for my opinions, just simple logic: Kill my enemies before they kill me. Survival is the prime imperative in life, and anything that threatens survival must be destroyed without mercy or remorse. It is no secret that global liberalism and terrorism go hand in hand, and that liberals have always supported whatever psychopaths came along as long as they were preaching some ideology that promised to destroy civilization, and nothing has changed, except now the liberals support islamic terrorism rather than communist terrorism, but only because muslims look like they stand a good chance of destroying civilization.
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well I did not really expect that anyone would provide any links showing "liberals" justifying the especially brutal murder of this brave woman. The demonization of all who are not in 100% agreement has polarized and weaken our nation.
Posted by: john Ryan at May 08, 2006 07:57 AM (TcoRJ)
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John Ryan, read Oyster's comments above. Sometimes a lack of condemnation of an action is a justification, or at least tacit support, even though the method itself may not be to someone's liking. Does the term "insurgent" ring a bell?
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>>>Does the term "insurgent" ring a bell?
john ryan,
does the term "minuteman" ring a bell?
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at May 08, 2006 09:53 AM (8e/V4)
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I see Islam degenerating in that part of the world..organized murder and mayhem led by thugs who parade as Mullahs. There is a power vacuum...which we created. And, God is crying....
Posted by: sharon spry at May 08, 2006 01:04 PM (BdT9X)
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Ah me a suck you a sucker he a sucker she a sucker wouldn't ya like to be a sucker too.
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Re the news media's seeking to tone down the barbarity of these acts:
"Every villain is followed by a sophist with a sponge." -- EM Forster, misquoting
a Lord Acton lecture
Posted by: The Sanity Inspector at May 08, 2006 03:47 PM (uw+0A)
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John--you don't think the majority of people feel the need to back up what they say, do you? That's betraying your bias for "reality". And as Stephen Colbert so insouciantly put it: reality has a well known liberal bias.
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German Hostages Rene Braeunlich and Thomas Nitzschke Freed
Good news indeed! These men were last seen in a terrorist video released on January 27th. The terrorist group called Tawhid and Sunnah brigade had threatened to kill them unless Germany met their demands which were that Germany cut off all diplomatic and trading ties with the new Iraqi government.
Reuters via Alertnet :The two men were abducted on Jan. 24 outside their workplace in the industrial town of Baiji, 180 km (110 miles) north of Baghdad. Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier said they had been freed without warning and appeared to be unharmed.
"I am very pleased to inform you that the two kidnapped men from Leipzig, Rene Braeunlich and Thomas Nitzschke, have been freed today," Steinmeier said in a statement. He said the men, being looked after in Germany's embassy in Baghdad, were expected to return home on Wednesday.
"After spending more than three months under inhumane conditions they are in German care," added Steinmeier, who was on an official visit to Chile.
Since the kidnapping, hundreds of people had gathered in their hometown of Leipzig, eastern Germany, for weekly vigils, placing flowers and lighting candles.
Rusty said in his January 27th post, “We pray for their speedy release.” Our prayers and the prayers of these men’s families and of the German people have been answered. And may they have a safe and speedy journey back to Germany to their loved ones.
Additional background here and here.
The Jawa ReportÂ’s Hostage Archive.
Hostatge support and news is one of our missions here. If any reader knows of a hostage story that needs attention email Rusty or I at the addresses on the contacts page.
Update : Braeunlich and Nitzschke have arrived in Germany and have given a brief statement. The German government refused to release details on how their release was secured.
ABCNEWS : "We are very happy to still be alive, which we don't take for granted," Nitzschke said.
"I am happy to be back home," Braeunlich said. "We had a difficult time."
After their statements, they boarded a minivan that government officials said would take them to a private reunion with their families.
The pair were released Tuesday after being held hostage since Jan. 24. The Foreign Ministry declined to provide details on how the pair were freed including whether a ransom was paid citing safety reasons.
Sounds like they may have paid a ransom. I hope not. The release could be a product of ongoing negitiations between the Iraqi government and some insurgent groups.
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Alex Jones best film:
9-11 Martial Law
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Posted by: Greg at May 02, 2006 07:41 PM (q5wwn)
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Glad they are safe... but how much were their kidnappers paid? :\
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Somewhere, General McAuliffe Is Smiling
The Screaming Eagles once again say "nuts," straight from Centcom:
Title:
KIDNAPPERS STOPPED; VICTIM RESCUED
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4/27/2006
Release Number:
06-04-02P
Description:
MULTI-NATIONAL DIVISION - NORTH
101ST AIRBORNE DIVISION (AIR ASSAULT)
TIKRIT, IRAQ (FOB SPEICHER)
APO AE 09363
TIKRIT, Iraq– An Iraqi civilian kidnapped in Samarra was rescued April 27 when Soldiers from 3rd Brigade Combat Team, 101st Airborne Division stopped the would-be kidnappers’ vehicles and released the citizen.
Units stationed in Samarra had already been aware of a “be on the lookout” (BOLO) report for a silver sedan suspected of being involved in a kidnapping when some alert Soldiers noticed a pair of silver sedans along a major thoroughfare in southern Salah ah Din province.
The two automobiles were parked next to each other as observers noticed the occupants passing what appeared to be a rifle between the two vehicles. Soldiers began pursuit of the vehicles but were unable to maintain contact.
The pursuing Soldiers radioed other troops in the area to be on the lookout for the two sedans.
Soon afterward another patrol spotted one of the sedans and was able to stop the vehicle. Three occupants inside the car were detained while the vehicle was searched. While searching the vehicle Soldiers soon discovered the bound and gagged kidnap victim inside the trunk of the car.
Shortly thereafter Soldiers stopped two more cars matching the description of the suspected criminals involved, and detained their two occupants.
The victim was promptly transported to a nearby military medical facility and the five detainees taken to a secured location for further questioning.
Anti-Iraqi Forces, to include criminals, continue to victimize the common people of Iraq as they threaten and extort its citizens. Coalition and Iraqi security forces will continue to work together to eliminate this type of criminal threat so that the streets will be safe for all Iraqis.
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But they're just
freedom fighters!!!
Posted by: Improbulus Maximusi at April 28, 2006 05:14 AM (0yYS2)
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I see no mention here of the issuance of warrants by a proper legal authority.
Such detentions are clearly illegal and the persons who are being held MUST be released immediately!
Meanwhile, someone alert the ACLU to start a lawsuit for the violation of the 4th Amendment. And if they didn't read them a Miranda warning, those troops had better watch out!
/I wish it was sarcasm.
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April 26, 2006
Terrorists Murder Civilians in Iraq on Video (Images)
A new video released by the Army of Ansar al-Sunnah shows insurgents in Iraq committing attrocities contrary to the Geneva Conventions. The video shows three Arab civilians being murdered by the group.
The video can be seen here.
The terror organization calls the murders 'executions' after condemning the three for 'apostasy'. The maximum penalty for apostasy under Islamic, or Sharia, law is death.
After the three 'confess' to the 'crime' of working in a civilian capacity for the U.S. in Iraq, the three are shot in the head with pistols. Their bodies fall into a grave which has already been dug.
Unlike U.S. and other Coalition forces who have been accused of Geneva Convention violations, the Army of Ansar al-Sunna openly boasts of this murder. So far, the U.S. has prosecuted over two-dozen American soldiers over the Abu Ghraib scandal alone.
The Army of Ansar al-Sunnah has released dozens of similar videos in the past. It is common practice for the group to murder any civilians working in any capacity with the Iraqi government.
The group is based in Northern Iraq in areas with large Kurdish minorities. It is thought to have split off from the more well known Ansar al-Islam, once part of the larger al Qaeda network. The head of al Qaeda in Mesopotamia, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, had been in Iraq prior to the U.S. led liberation working with the group. The U.S. operation all but annhialated the group, with Arab remnants forming Tawhid and Jihad (later al Qaeda) and Kurdish remnants forming Ansar al-Sunnah. Peshmirga forces have effectively wiped out al-Sunnah remnants in Kurdistan.
Where is the outrage? Where are the protests? Where is the U.N. investigation?
Reuters:
A statement accompanying the recording said the video showed "the confessions of three apostates working in ... a company dealing with American forces that destroyed weapons and ammunition of the former Iraqi army".
"I'm Ammar Nasser ... I work with the Americans," said one man with long hair. The other two men made remarks in response to an off-camera speaker, but the audio was not clear.
Thanks to Doubletap for finding the video.
Warning: Two graphic images follow.
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Rusty, the UN did nothing when their top man in Iraq, Sergio Vieira de Mello, was killed in 2003 by a truck bomb. However, start talking about ending corruption and politcal in-fighting within the UN, then you get the delegates pissed off enough to speak out.
Posted by: Graeme at April 26, 2006 04:31 PM (nMkrr)
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I feel bad for those three men. I bet, they just wanted to feed their families.
May I suggest, if you go where Islam is a majority, make sure you are armed, and do not give up if anything happens. Better to die fighting, than with your hands tied behind your back, and having to hear allah akbar before some moon god worshipper pulls the trigger.
Posted by: Leatherneck at April 26, 2006 06:30 PM (D2g/j)
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What brave muhajideen we have here. They are the epitome of the noble Muslim warrior, merciful and kind, attacking only in self defense, upholding the grand tradition of the noble warrior.
/sarcasm off
Actually, they are cowardly bastards who shoot men when their hands are tied behind their backs. If I were a Muslim, I would hang my head in shame.
Posted by: jesusland joe at April 26, 2006 06:55 PM (rUyw4)
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Keep Ammar Nasser and all those like him in mind on the road to Tehran. Once Iran goes down, major funding for these terror groups will go down the drain. Then let them throw rocks.
These three guys just wanted the freedom to work and live in the pursuit of happiness. They have contributed to the progress of freedom with their lives. These muslims, in seeking to stop people from earning a living on pain of death, just continue to show what monstrous evil they are. Fifty years from now they will have gone the way of the Barbary pirates.
Posted by: Ernie Oporto at April 26, 2006 07:09 PM (WvUov)
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Perhaps, Ernie, or they will destroy all civilization off the face of the Earth. Time will tell, Ernie, time will tell.
Posted by: jesusland joe at April 26, 2006 07:19 PM (rUyw4)
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It gives me chills to think of the fear those men must have had, seeing their own grave in front of them, and waiting for their turn to die, and hearing the guy next to them be executed.
unfortunately these insurgents only have to fear three square meals, air-conditioning and an arrow pointing the direction to Mecca for them if captured. The Iraqi's should be handing out the justice real soon for some of these guys, that were captured and prosecuted.
Posted by: davec at April 26, 2006 07:40 PM (CcXvt)
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Looks like they've traded Saddam Hussein for... alqaeda. This is just going to make people mad. With each trigger the "insurgents" pull, they toll their own death bell.
Posted by: RepJ at April 26, 2006 08:45 PM (+6FAX)
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The leftists will squeal like pigs with hot pokers up their bums if one of these terrorist scum were shot like that by the US, but no no oh no, quiet as a church mouse when it comes to the actions of their terrorist allies.
Despicable..
Posted by: MathewK at April 26, 2006 11:00 PM (pVHqF)
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Ansar is one of the most barbaric of all the insurgent groups in Iraq right now. Did anyone see the video of them killing those 12 poor bastards from Nepal? I didn't sleep for 2 days after seeing that because I was so disgusted and pissed off. They display just how much of a dispicable creature man can be, especially hiding behind the bullshit guise of "Holy Warrior". They should be hunted down and killed like the animals that they are.
Posted by: Jack's Smirking Revenge at April 27, 2006 03:47 AM (CtVG6)
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Of all the leftard blogs and media outlets, the chances of this getting time on even one is about zero. Liberals are scum and should all be shot.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at April 27, 2006 05:06 AM (0yYS2)
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"They display just how much of a dispicable creature man can be"
It's wrong to call them men or members of the human race. They're animals, no much lower than animals. Don't know what to call them. Would like to call them dead.
Posted by: Steve at April 27, 2006 07:27 AM (K5WFQ)
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Jack,
Here is a link to the post about the Nepalese murdered by Ansar al-Sunna, one of them was beheaded.
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/043601.php
But check out this post, which has the reaction of Nepalese who showed up at the website. Big difference between their response and, say, Spain's.
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/043601.php
Posted by: Rusty at April 27, 2006 08:26 AM (JQjhA)
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Rotten terrorists have no respect for life of anyone they sound like liberals to me
Posted by: sandpiper at April 27, 2006 08:32 AM (kexrr)
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People every where get what they pay for and what they deserve. If a country has the balls to be democratic, then it will be that. Too bad that wasn't taken into consideration before we poured $billions down a rathole.
Posted by: Last gasp Larry at April 27, 2006 10:13 AM (FCC6c)
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Yes, Larry, but you have no problem pouring billions down the rathole of the UN and all its spawn. Too bad someone didn't take that into consideration as well, perhaps this crap in Iraq would never have happened.
Posted by: jesusland joe at April 27, 2006 06:44 PM (rUyw4)
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No problem here, long as it's your money, jj.
Posted by: Last word Larry at April 27, 2006 08:50 PM (FCC6c)
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Yep, Larry, that is what every sorry ass liberal believes.
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Great work!
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I've managed to save up roughly $22615 in my bank account, but I'm not sure if I should buy a house or not. Do you think the market is stable or do you think that home prices will decrease by a lot?
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April 25, 2006
Remembering the Forgotten: Steven Vincent, Slain Reporter
Steven Vincent left for Iraq one year ago yesterday as a freelance journalist for several publications--including the Christian Science Monitor. He never returned. Although this article is a few weeks old, it is a fitting
tribute to a Steven Vincent, who never played the moral equvialency card. R.I.P.
Here is a taste of Vincent's own words:
"Were we wrong in Iraq? Yes, in one major sense, beyond even the shortage of troops, failure to anticipate the Baathist-led insurrection and Abu Ghraib: we did not, and still don't understand the regressive, parasitical, unreasonable presence of tribal Islam - the black hole in Iraqi and Arab cultures that consumes their best and most positive energies. Because of our blindness, we find ourselves fighting an enemy we do not see, comprehend, or even accurately identify."
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April 15, 2006
Norman Kember is Thankful to Be Free
Peace Activist Norman Kember has given an interview to BBC. Kember is one classy peace activist. Norman was on eof the four CPT hostages. Kember also speaks well of Tom Fox who was murdered by the terrorists who held them.
Via BBC :Peace campaigner Norman Kember has given an emotional account of his ordeal as a hostage in Iraq.
Mr Kember, 74, of Pinner in north west London, was held in Baghdad for four months before his rescue on 23 March.
American peace worker Tom Fox, 54, was killed weeks before the rescue. When asked about his fellow hostage, Mr Kember said he was a "remarkable man".
His voice breaking with emotion, he spoke of the moment his rescuers arrived.
"We had this sort of futon thing on the floor, and we were lying there, and suddenly we heard noise outside and then somebody calling out and then the breaking of glass and then up the stairs came these SAS gents," he said.
"It's unbelievable because it was so sudden and first of all, because they were British, they wanted to know if 'Mr Kember' was there, and I said, 'Yes' and then they said, because I was the person at that stage chained to the door, 'This is a bolt-cutter job,' so they went down and cut the padlock and released me."
Mr Kember said he "continues to thank" his rescuers.
"They were brave. I disagree with their profession, but it is ironic isn't it - you go as a peace activist and you are rescued by the SAS, which is perhaps the most violent of all the British forces.
"Anyway I am grateful to them. I met one of them by chance on the way out of Baghdad and he was quite happy to chat to me and I was happy to chat to him."
We are glad you are safe too Mr. Kember.
Norman Kember Acrchive here.
The Jawa Report's Hostage Archive Here.
Don't forget hostage Jeffrey Ake and many others are still missing.
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"They were brave. I disagree with their profession, but it is ironic isn't it - you go as a peace activist and you are rescued by the SAS, which is perhaps the most violent of all the British forces.
Violence comeasurate to the threat. I'm only sorry they didn't get the opportunity to kill their captors, a job they do efficiently and expediently.
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"I disagree with their profession, but it is ironic isn't it - you go as a peace activist and you are rescued by the SAS, which is perhaps the most violent of all the British forces."
Of course he gave no word about how violent the terrorists are that he loves so much. Classy my ass; he's a piece of shit liberal, and I'm sorry he didn't get the chop.
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Charlie Sheen takes his 9-11 Truth Movement message to the Jimmy Kimmel Show. 10,000,000 viewers. Boooya!
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2006/150406sheentv.htm
Posted by: Greg at April 15, 2006 10:33 PM (q5wwn)
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I saw the Kember interview, he was very upset, at the part where he mentions the SAS breaking in and asking for "Mr Kember" he broke down in tears.
I truly think he is grateful and it might even have changed his angle on the use of violence.
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Man alive, with Charlie Sheen on the bandwagon now, I'm definitely buying stock in Reynolds and Alcoa!
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I doubt if Kember learned anything, as his sort is usually so full of self-righteous delusion that they can barely function in the real world. It's too bad they didn't gack him, because one fewer leftard would have been a good thing.
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Improbulus you make yourself laughable when pointing the self-righteous delusion finger in any direction than your own! Ha Ha! You and Oyster breath make a good team! Ha Ha!
Posted by: Last word Larry at April 16, 2006 02:20 PM (FCC6c)
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Okay Larry. Oops, you didn't get the last word! Sorry dumbass.
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Oh Yeah? Now who looks like the dumbass?
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So Larry, do you have to work at being stupid, or is it a natural talent?
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at April 17, 2006 05:34 AM (0yYS2)
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Maximusm, your first post killed me thanks for the humor!
What we think--but are hesitant to say!
Peace...
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In-probe Assimax: Something tells me that Mr. Kember is a much better man than you, if indeed you are a man. I'm sure he has a lot more balls than you as he was over in the hot-bed trying to make a change while you are here hiding behind a keyboard and ranting and raving violence. You are a snivelling coward!
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Wife of American Hostage Jeffrey Ake Speaks Out
The wife of American hostage Jeffrey Ake has spoken out for the first time since her husband was taken hostage in Iraq a year ago today. Jeffrey Ake is one of two Americans still being held hostage in Iraq.
Dean Sadek, also held hostage, was kidnapped in November 2004.
We applaud Liliana Ake for breaking her silence. It is difficult to go against the advice of the U.S. State Department and private 'experts' working for insurance companies who have little knowledge about how the hostage situation in Iraq is different than in other areas of the world.
Many of Jeffrey Ake's friends and family have dropped comments or e-mails to me thanking The Jawa Report for keeping Jeffrey's memory alive. Now that Liliana has given us the green light, let us never let a day pass without mentioning Jeffrey Ake publicly.
As former hostage Terry Anderson once said, "The tragic thing is that the torment is as much from the outside by countries and people indifferent to their fate as on the inside by their captors."
We demand the immediate and unconditional release of Jeffrey Ake and Dean Sadek. No politcal cause can ever justify the taking of civilians hostage. It is a form of barbarity with no excuse.
We can only hope that the media, Muslims, and Leftist organizations will begin to pay attention to the plight of hostages who may not be one of their political allies.
For more, visit the Jeffrey Ake hostage archive here. Visit our extensive hostage archives here. And please, keep Jeff and his family in your prayers.
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Posted by: Jaybreak at April 11, 2006 09:19 PM (5SH/0)
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How sobering it is to go through that hostage archive.
Posted by: Vinnie at April 11, 2006 09:33 PM (/qy9A)
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I think the reason Jill Carroll got so much attention was frankly because she is a journalist, and that made the media sit up and take notice. I've found that the international media -- particularly the British press -- paid far more attention to the CPT hostages than did the U.S. press. In fact, after the first few dramatic hostage takings, starting with Nick Berg and Danny Pearl, then ultimately really fizzling out with Keith Maupin, I have found the media pretty much asleep on this story. And I really haven't seen too much excitement, even about the "peace protester" hostages, on the left.
I think the left mainly caught onto the Carroll story because of the negative reaction she got.
That said, this is an important story that all Americans should be following, and it's great that you keep up with it. I'm sure the families appreciate the effort.
Posted by: JoyReid at April 11, 2006 10:47 PM (o1EiK)
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media, muslims, and leftys,
yep, thats the problem right there.
Posted by: Rubin at April 12, 2006 04:11 AM (AYuS7)
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RELEASE JEFF AKE - How else can we make a difference? War or not - Iraq needs clean water and other bottled items. Releasing him would be what God wants.
Posted by: mary at June 08, 2006 02:52 PM (6yv4x)
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