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June 13, 2006

Topless Female Troubles

1) In Hot Springs, Arkansas, a 38-year-old sheriff's deputy, Dawn Rene Roberson (pic), lost her job for going topless at a campground.

From Local6.com:

According to incident reports, a marine patrol deputy and a park ranger told a topless Roberson to cover up in separate encounters Sunday.
Later, authorities received a complaint that a woman without a top was in view of children.
One report said a grandmother complained that the topless woman became "loud and disorderly" after she told the woman to cover up. Another camper told authorities the woman became belligerent when confronted.

Roberson must be eligible for some kind of an award for stupidity. She is due in court on July 18 to face charges of indecent exposure and disorderly conduct.

2) In Austin, Texas, the local school board wants to fire 29-year-old Austin High School art teacher, Tamara Hoover (pic), for publishing her topless picture on the Internet. The Austin School Board voted yesterday to commence the termination process for Hoover.

From Tamara Hoover's web page on MySpace.com:

ARTIST AND ART Teacher (termination pending) at a high school in Austin, Texas. Looking for help with funding the gathering of evidence to defend myself against the Austin Independant School District. (both civil and criminal). They are firing me for pictures of me being on a website (celesta) and claiming the website is pornographic. [sic all]

For those that donate, Hoover states that she will send them "something something sweet." Isn't that special?

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June 01, 2006

Woman Gives Boy Mercedes for Sex

(Garden City, New York) A 39-year-old putative "soccer mom" and married mother of two, Lisa M. Frodella (pic), culled a 16-year-old boy from her daughters' friends and groomed him for sex. At 16, the boy was old enough to deliver pizzas and, sure enough, soon he was regularly supplying the pepperoni deluxe to Ms. Frodella.

And, check this. Frodella would even call the boy's high school "pretending to be his mother, and say he was sick" so the pair could have sex during school hours.

In return, a gratified Ms. Frodella rewarded the boy with a souped-up black 2002 Mercedes-Benz S430, valued at $35,000. Understandably, the boy's mother was suspicious and alerted the police.

Yesterday, Lisa M. Frodella was arrested on two counts of rape and two counts of criminal sexual acts, each count carrying a maximum penalty of four years in prison. Bail was set by the Nassau County First District Court at $40,000 cash or $120,000 bond. Last I checked, she was still in the pokey.

By the way, the kid didn't get to keep the Mercedes.

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May 31, 2006

Teacher Lina Sinha - Nasty in Manhattan

(New York City) The convoluted story of Lina Sinha (pic), Manhattan Montessori school teacher and director, was exposed last October when she was charged with sodomy and rape of a student.

Sinha was accused of having a long-term sexual relationship with a student, starting when the boy was 13 years old and lasting until he was 17. She was arraigned and freed on her own recognizance, however, she was instructed to surrender her passport to prevent flight to India where she has relatives.

Since that last court appearance, more trouble has visited Sinha. Yesterday, additional charges were filed.

From NYPost.com:

The female director of an East Side Montessori school was a little-boy-crazy "predator," Manhattan prosecutors charged yesterday, as they accused her of bedding two of the school's students - often on school property, and starting when they were only 12 and 13 years old.
The disgraced administrator, Lina Sinha, 40, who has worked for almost 20 years at the East 55th Street school founded and still owned by her parents, was also charged with trying to cover her tracks through lies and bribes of sneakers, cellphones and cash.
In all, Sinha faces 81 charges of rape, sodomy, bribing a witness and tampering with a witness and evidence.
"It is the people's position that this defendant is a predator," lead prosecutor Florence Chapin told a judge in Manhattan Supreme Court, after Sinha pleaded not guilty.
The most serious charges in the shocking indictment are for first-degree rape - for allegedly having sexual intercourse with the 12-year-old for a year, beginning in February 2001.

Whoa! Hose her down!

Two boys and 81 criminal counts related to illegal sexual behavior at a school -- for years! -- and nobody noticed? Come on! I don't believe it. Many people associated with the school had to be looking the other way, intentionally.

In the meantime, Sinha allegedly has been impeding investigators while trying to frame the first victim, who is now an adult and an NYPD officer, with fabricated assertions that he was a rapist.

Sinha's bail was set at $50,000 by Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Carol Berkman and it was promptly posted. The next court appearance is scheduled for August 16. If convicted of the rape and sodomy charges, Sinha faces a possible 25 years in prison.

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1 >>>"Sinha allegedly has been impeding investigators while trying to frame the first victim, " There's no evil in the world, nope, none at all. It's all just differing points of view. I have MY point of view, she has HER point of view! And it's all relative too!

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at May 31, 2006 09:59 AM (8e/V4)

2 Yes Carlos and let there be no "Rush to judgement". The investigation is still continuing ! These are just allegations. Like Saddam and the marines all deserve their day in court to prove their innocence. lol Right ?

Posted by: john ryan at May 31, 2006 10:23 AM (TcoRJ)

3 john, the difference is that the Rightwing reserves judgment in defense of their country and our servicemen, while the Left reserves judgment in defense of pedophiles.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at May 31, 2006 10:40 AM (8e/V4)

4 Another one who should have been one of my teachers. Damn, I always miss out. My English teacher wouldn't put out.

Posted by: greyrooster at May 31, 2006 01:11 PM (a7z59)

5 Come on -- this is all about sex. Everybody lies about sex. Why are we even prying into this woman's sex life? Hillary For Senate/Bill For Secretary General!

Posted by: Rhymes With Right at May 31, 2006 02:55 PM (K3SSE)

6 Carlos I am not sure if you saw any pictures of her, but she was definitely HOT 10 years ago. At least one thing about GreyRooster he isn't gay. But he also probably doesn't really have many friends in the "Bronx"

Posted by: john ryan at May 31, 2006 08:51 PM (TcoRJ)

7 john, she may be hot, but when you try to frame one of your own victims that's pretty damn evil, lol!

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at May 31, 2006 09:17 PM (8e/V4)

8 My mother always said to never trust the Montessoris.

Posted by: Jester at June 01, 2006 02:46 PM (TuAMG)

9 Gay John Ryan. I have a few friends in the Bronx, Brooklyn also. Most of my friends live in Manhattan. Something you wouldn't understand since you are a liar.

Posted by: greyrooster at June 03, 2006 06:01 AM (V+JAR)

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April 26, 2006

Gorgeous Pamela Rogers Busted Again

(McMinnville, Tennessee) Gorgeous Pamela Rogers (pics), the 28-year-old teacher who was convicted of a child sex offense last year and sentenced to nine months in prison, was released and then arrested earlier this month for violating the terms of her probation.

Contrary to the court's order, Rogers had contacted the victim's family via the Internet. At a subsequent hearing two weeks ago, Rogers was allowed to remain free on $10,000 bond until a July 12 hearing.

Well, hush my puppies! It seems Gorgeous Pamela Rogers was arrested again on Monday for contacting and sending sexually explicit videos to the now 14-year-old victim.

From KnoxNews.com:

"These were videos of the defendant involved in sexual activity and she was nude in the pictures," arrest warrant records show. "The defendant requested from the victim he send pictures and videos, and phone records indicate she received the same on her phone."

It's not clear what happens next but letting Rogers out of jail appears to be a mistake. Treating her leniently doesn't seem to work very well. In my opinion, Gorgeous Pamela needs a serious attitude adjustment.

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1 Gee, that not giving hot chick child molesters, prison time is really working out.

Posted by: davec at April 26, 2006 08:05 PM (CcXvt)

2 Maybe she ought to send those videos to me instead of that 14 year kid...

Posted by: Agent Meatball at April 26, 2006 09:54 PM (30FRH)

3 Two Words: Obcessive Compulsion! Jail time does not treat a pysiological disorder. It is like putting a very fat person on a diet. It does not work, most of the time. Please research Epigenetics and DNA mythelation. Here is where you will find the problem; rooted in chemical attachments(codets), to human DNA. Compulsion is much like drug addiction; as a matter of fact, it involves the same mechanisms in the brain. Depending on the individual; the compulsion can vary, from people who eat themselves to death, to those who are violent, to those who can't resist shopping, hand washing, etc, etc. The compulsion for this person, may be as strong as pure grade Heroin; many times that of a healthy person. Prisons and homless shelters are full of people who can't control themselves. Many of them are physicaly sick in the head(chemicaly imbalanced). Also keyword TILT ( Toxican Induced Loss Of Tollerance) an emerging disease mechanism); and reference CIIN (Chemical injury information network) for statistics on teachers with Chemical intollerance. Also reference Chemical exposure (Ashford and Miller) for details on susceptibility and controls. Treat her like a criminal, and she will be a ward of the system for like(on our dollar); if she does not commit suicide first. Time for some serious research folks. Put down the remote control-and get a sniff of reality. Chemicals are driving some of us madd.

Posted by: chemocide at April 27, 2006 06:05 AM (XdoZS)

4 OK and if she were a man???? Sure treat her symptoms, but from inside a jail cell. This 14 year old is going to need some serious treatment also. He will always be attached to her. 10 20 30 years down the road she gets out of prison shows up in his life and ruins what ever he might have made of it because of her addiction. She needs to be treated but if the treatment doesn't work she needs to be kept away from this poor kid until either he can tell the difference between love and obsession, or he's old enough to really fall in love with someone and not allow her meddling in his life to ruin it.

Posted by: SPO at April 27, 2006 09:05 AM (OZn2O)

5 I think it might be time for the DA and Judge she made fools of to show her there are consequences for her actions. 20 years should do. That will protect the kids from her. Remember them?

Posted by: Brad at April 27, 2006 09:38 AM (gj4zU)

6 NO WONDER USA MEN ARE MARRYING LATINAS & REJECTING USA GIRLS--USA GIRLS ARE EITHER MAN HATING FEMINISTS OR DRUNK TRAMPS WHO HAVE NO LIMITS--EITHER WAY--THEY ARE TAUGHT TO LIE ABOUT RAPE AT AN EARLY AGE--WHO NEEDS A DUMB USA SKANK WHEN YOU CAN HAVE A PROPER FEMININE LATINA??

Posted by: NICOLO at April 27, 2006 11:09 AM (wZLWV)

7 Nicolo,your right. I think I met and married the last American woman who was still a virgin and had no tattoos and goes to Mass. I want you to meet my son in 8 years.

Posted by: Brad at April 27, 2006 11:42 AM (gj4zU)

8 I had to import one. Sad commentary on Denmerican culture and values.

Posted by: Last gasp Larry at April 27, 2006 08:59 PM (FCC6c)

9 The destruction of every civilization begins with the debasement of its women.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximusi at April 28, 2006 05:23 AM (0yYS2)

10 The woman took advantage of her looks and the Judge in this case fell for it. It's the American way to judge a book by its cover. Why is everyone so surprised?

Posted by: Trunks at April 28, 2006 01:23 PM (MwlDS)

11 I sorta agree with the chem person.. I think it has to do with physiology tho.. ya see its like this..when she thinks about about her teenage boyfriend all the blood rushes from her brain down to her clitoris. This makes for bad desision making because she can't think straight..i mean she can't think right. I'm availible for probation work.

Posted by: Rubin at April 28, 2006 11:15 PM (73HpO)

12 Where can I find the videos?

Posted by: Futuristic Funk at April 29, 2006 04:19 PM (QPFkz)

13 I know it's wrong, but why didn't I have sex machine teachers like this when I was in school? I had 300 pounds of Mrs. Deninger. It's just not fair.

Posted by: sex machine at May 03, 2006 11:07 AM (xYcC2)

14 Totally agree. Where is she when I was in school? This would totally keep me from cutting classes.

Posted by: zachahuy at May 04, 2006 07:07 PM (tZe/M)

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April 12, 2006

Gorgeous Pamela Rogers Violates Probation

(McMinnville, Tennessee) In February, Pamela Rogers (Turner) was released on probation from jail after serving nine months of an eight-year sentence for a conviction of sex with a 13-year-old student. Yesterday, Pamela Rogers (pic) was arrested for violating the terms of her probation.

From WBIR.com:

Authorities say Pamela Rogers Turner may have committed as many as seven violations of terms of her probation. She had served six months in jail and was released February 26th. But terms of her conviction included an eight-year sentence and the prosecutor says his office might ask that Turner be sent to prison for the balance of it.
Terms include registering as a sex offender, performing community service, having no contact with the boy's family and not using the Internet.

Contrary to the court's orders, 28-year-old Rogers has been using the Internet to communicate with her victim's sister. In my opinion, Pamela needs a leash. She currently resides in the Warren County Jail.

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March 22, 2006

Courtus Interruptus for Debra Lafave

Prosecution drops charges. More details here, here, and here.

Previous Jawa Report on Debra Lafave: here, here, here, and here.

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1 She's hot. Let her go.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at March 22, 2006 09:36 AM (8e/V4)

2 she gives me a stiffy

Posted by: Rubin at March 22, 2006 10:56 AM (M7vZ+)

3 only closeted gays would want to see her locked away.

Posted by: john Ryan at March 22, 2006 11:04 AM (TcoRJ)

4 I am torn in response. I know at fourteen I would have hit it, like a force of nature, however if it was my fourteen year old daughter and her twenty-five year old boyfriend or a teacher I would be outraged. She maybe hot, but how many 20-25 year old male offenders are in jail for the same thing? The law should be blind to her hotness, and treat her the same.

Posted by: davec at March 22, 2006 11:16 AM (CcXvt)

5 Not ever having been a fourteen year old boy I too am torn. But I can't help but think that just because a fourteen year old boy's hormones are raging, it doesn't mean he's emotionally ready for such a relationship. I could more fully understand it if she had also been fourteen. But this is an adult woman in the capacity of an educator and should set an example of moral behavior as much as any male should. This boy is not likely to suffer any adverse emotional problems and will probably brag about it when he's older, but that's not the point. What might it do to his perception of women later in life?

Posted by: Oyster at March 22, 2006 11:44 AM (g9UJq)

6 You seriously think he's gonna wait until he's older to start bragging about it? This kid's palms are still healing from the high fives.

Posted by: Eric at March 22, 2006 02:07 PM (UHKaK)

7 lol!

Posted by: Oyster at March 22, 2006 02:25 PM (g9UJq)

8 She looks like my wife. If my wife were young that is. And beautiful. And blond. And petite. And hot. And delicious. And desirable.

Posted by: James West at March 22, 2006 02:26 PM (UHKaK)

9 James, I feel you pain! namwarts

Posted by: Namwarts at March 22, 2006 02:39 PM (Y2ILH)

10 shes a loser if she has to get it from a 14 year old...

Posted by: ginger at March 22, 2006 02:39 PM (mf6AW)

11 davec, you right, but she has gone through so much. Plus, she is just to hot. Sorry davec.

Posted by: Leatherneck at March 22, 2006 02:39 PM (D2g/j)

12 She's a skank whore, if she was a he and having sex with little 14 year old girls everyone would pipe a different tune about this whole situtation. I for one am sick of these loser women getting treated with kid gloves for doing things that would land a man in prison for a good long time. Throw her away with the older women in cell block D and watch that overly makeupped face wither. bottom line, she's a skank.

Posted by: Andre at March 22, 2006 05:50 PM (/u+1F)

13 I can't believe you guys! She's a sexual predator! She fracked a 14 year old kid! No normal, adult woman looks at a 14 year old boy and wants to have sex with him. He was victimized, and he's not emotionaly mature enough to realize what a sicko this woman is.

Posted by: Princess Kimberley at March 22, 2006 06:30 PM (9xjdU)

14 Princess K, ok..Im way sick then.

Posted by: Rubin at March 22, 2006 06:51 PM (FlPMW)

15 Princess, Davec, Ande: I agree with you! What was the old adage? Pretty is as pretty does? I have 2 children, one of each sex. Male or female, I would expect the law to sentence anyone that molests a child to the maximum sentence allowed by law.(yes, I know - she's hot, she is a 14 year old's wet dream!) What on earth am I saying? After reading some of the guys'comments here, it appears that maybe boys don't grow out of it after all! I must say, I believe this is the first time that "she's too pretty to be in prison" thing has worked. I quite frankly, as a woman and a mother, am appalled! (BTW, I happen to be 5'3", 122 lbs and petite - doesn't mean I'm going to chase my son's 14 year old friends!) I am quite happy being the "hot, cool mom" (Embarrasses my son to no end when his buddies tell him that!) Debra should be in prison and have her makeup taken away!

Posted by: Melissa in Texas at March 22, 2006 07:09 PM (bbxLM)

16 I realize you ladies are right, and I know we are not living in the 50's, and 60's. However, there is still a double standard, and I am a pig when my wife is not around. If it was my son, I would be angry, and realize the event would be premature. If it was my daughter, ( with a male teacher ), the only chance for the teacher to stay out of the hospital would be for the police to get to him first. Sorry ladies, this is planet earth, not heaven.

Posted by: Leatherneck at March 22, 2006 07:30 PM (D2g/j)

17 I don't know about getting the high five's from his peers. Most likely they would be saying "Dude why did you tell your mom ?" And look at the age that both boys and girls are having sex now. Mom would you rather have your son banging one of his classmates or the teacher ? At least you know with the teacher there won't be an angry parent of the girl having the boy arrested.

Posted by: john Ryan at March 22, 2006 11:44 PM (TcoRJ)

18 The thought that sex somehow damages a boy's psyche is not just idiotic, it's hilarious. Boys and girls are different, people, and not just physically, but psychologically, but all the liberal gender-equality crap that's been force-fed to us over the years seems to have driven that fact from peoples' minds.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at March 23, 2006 06:31 AM (0yYS2)

19 Here's one for you...in my own father's high school in his northern Minnesota town of 2,000 or so bored souls, it was common knowledge that a female high school teacher had had a sexual relationship with one of her students. She quietly left the area not terribly long after. Wonder why this didn't make the TV news? Well, because no one had TVs...it was spring, 1950 ya see. You all act like this is some kind of new phenomena signaling the end of civilization and morals. Well, kids were banging each other, teachers leaped on their students, and guys were screwing the neighbors' wife long before this crap hit the social conciousness and Entertainment Tonight. So relax, the kids are alright.

Posted by: Eric at March 23, 2006 10:12 AM (UHKaK)

20 Y'all cannot tell me that you have not seen the story (Drudge) about the ugly, fat woman that is facing 4 to 20 years for having sex with boys under 16? Hmmm, I honestly think her story sounded better than Debra's! This is preposterous! Sorry, this whole thing just gets my thong in a wad!

Posted by: Melissa in Texas at March 23, 2006 08:27 PM (bbxLM)

21 does anyone have the video clips of her on the news?

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March 10, 2006

Judge Balks at Debra Lafave Plea Deal

(Ocala, Florida) Former middle school teacher Debra Lafave (pic) and her lawyer, John Fitzgibbons, listened attentively in Marion County Court yesterday as unsympathetic Judge Hale Stancil expressed his concerns regarding a plea deal negotiated between the defense and the prosecution. The plea agreement specified no jail time for a sex crime committed against a 14-year-old boy.

In addition to having questions about the criminal justice and education systems, Judge Stancil stated that he is seriously considering throwing out the plea agreement and sentencing Lafave in accordance with established guidelines, meaning 16.9 years in prison. Being undecided, Stancil postponed Lafave's sentencing for a week to ten days to allow himself more time to think about the case.

As a reminder, Lafave received no jail in adjacent Hillsborough County when she was sentenced for related crimes.

So, the soap opera continues as everyone waits to learn what Judge Stancil will decide.

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1 My middle-aged, conservative self says 'Enforce the law, lock her up.' My inner teen still lives and says 'Where the H*ll was she when I was 14!' Maybe instead of wasting her in prison they should have her provide 'community service' to all the seniors after the last football game or something.

Posted by: Glenmore at March 10, 2006 07:46 AM (zLneW)

2 Make her perform her community service to the seniors at the community senior center.

Posted by: john ryan at March 10, 2006 08:42 AM (TcoRJ)

3 Lock her up and give her 16 years - a man in her position that had sex with a 14 year old girl would get no such treatment or sympathy. Equal treatment under law = women must face the same penalties for crimes that are metted out to men. No exceptions.

Posted by: Good Lt at March 10, 2006 09:38 AM (yT+NK)

4 The issue with age of consent laws really stems from how piss-poor a science psychology is. Its an ad-hoc solution to the question: Is the individual minor involved sufficiently developed and mature to bear responsibility for his actions? This applied whether the person was male *or* female. If they are, its not a crime; if they aren't, its a crime. The age of consent is a place holder in the abscence of legitimate scientific evaluation of a child's maturity level. The difference is, most of the readers (male, almost universally) can think back to when they were 14 and, as Glenmore so eloquently put it, think "Where was she when I was 14?!" A girl, however, they have been taught by societal mores to protect and revere as an innocent being - certainly not one mature enough, at that age, to make a decision regarding sex! However, they do not have any problems at all thinking of their 14-year-old selves It has highlighted that the age of consent is, indeed, an imperfect and unobjective place holder. However, a complete lack of objective psychological standards to measure these children by also exists. Given that, we must enforce the age of consent rule absolutely. This woman should be punished no different than if she was a male teacher having sex with a 14 year old girl, for that reason. In this specific case it is possible that the boy is emotionally stunted and was manipulated by the teacher - and it was also possible that he was just a kid having a good time. But its entirely besides the point. We have no way of evaluating that objectively, right now - so the age of consent law is proper and good. When we do, perhaps some day that won't be a crime (and, for that matter, perhaps some day a 14 year old girl will get into a similar situation and be judged mature enough to account for her own actions,) and perahps it would still be judged a crime. It depends on the kid involved. But as it stands now this woman is getting off lightly for a dire crime.

Posted by: MiB at March 10, 2006 12:06 PM (VeYWn)

5 Where was she when we were in grade school. All we had were two fat teachers and an ugly one with mental problems. Lock her up, WITH ME! lol

Posted by: Travis 35 at March 10, 2006 01:06 PM (Ntr4E)

6 Teachers are put in a very important position of trust over our children. She violated that trust no matter how cool it may have been to a 14 year old. She deserves nothing less than the death penalty. A swift execution would certainly serve as a warning to other teachers not to defile our children.

Posted by: USA Patriot at March 10, 2006 01:40 PM (p74Yq)

7 USA Patriot, people look at me like i'm insane when I say that should be the penalty for defiling a child. Seems like we are on the same page atleast.

Posted by: Andre at March 12, 2006 06:22 PM (/u+1F)

8 USA Patriot, People like you scare me more than this lady does. Yah what she did was wrong, but you sound like the Taliban to me.

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February 27, 2006

Pamela Rogers Released From Jail

(McMinnville, Tennessee) Convicted child sex offender and former teacher, 28-year-old Pamela Rogers, was released from jail yesterday after completing about six months of her nine month sentence. Rogers (aka Pamela Turner) earned an early release through good behavior.

To refresh everyone's memory, Pamela Rogers Turner (photos) was arrested and charged in February 2005 with 15 counts of sexual battery by an authority figure and 13 counts of statutory rape of one of her students, a 13-year-old boy. In August, she pleaded no contest as part of an agreement with the prosecution and was sentenced. The agreement provided for dismissal of most of the 28 counts against her.

I think it's important to remember that Rogers was convicted of having a three-month sexual affair with a 13-year-old boy. Her crime was a clear case of child sexual abuse by a person in a position of authority and many observers believe Rogers received very lenient treatment by the court.

Her sentence includes seven years probation which, if violated, will send her back to jail. Rogers is already entered into the Tennessee sex offender registry with her photo posted on its website. In addition, she must complete 90 hours of community service.

In summary, the former teacher and former homecoming queen opens a new chapter in her life as an ex-convict and registered sex offender on probation. She forfeited her career, her good name and her marriage. In return, she's blanketed her life and her future with a dark cloud.

Poor decision-making skills produce poor results.

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1 "Poor decision making skills" - that's funny. I wonder if its OK to say that when its the man with girl? And would he get 6 months? Nooo

Posted by: Javapuke at February 27, 2006 07:13 AM (HbfST)

2 The real emotional effect of a story is when it reduced to an individual with their name beside a picture. This is what has happened to Pamela Joan Rogers. I started studying this story on 11.August.2005, when she took the plea. I watch the coverage on television that night and said she is not guilty. I have spent many hours since then studying the case. Talking with attorney about how it was conducted, talking to investigators about how it was not investigated correctly, talking to individuals that had some knowledge of the case. All this information makes me one hundred percent sure that I am correct when I say she is not guilty of anything. Her ex-husband and several of his friends and several people that did not like Pamela stung Pamela Rogers. I now know why the 13-year old boys' family could not say anything about the case. I now know why the 19-year old boy had to say what he said about the case. I now know why Pamela had to take the Plea. I now know who the 8 men and one woman involved in the sting are. I now know what the connections between Pamela and these 8 individuals are. This complex case is very simple when you put the time into it to understand what was happening. The case was completely made up for humiliation of Pamela at the time her ex-husband was asking for a divorce. Nothing improper happened between her and the 13-year-old boy. The case became public on the 28.January.2005 and she was indicted on 04.February.2005. No investigator or Distract Attorney could have understood a case this complex in that short of time. I am completely sure I am correct about the case. There is no evidence for Pamela to be guilty; there is no circumstantial evidence for her being guilty. The study of this case shows a Pamela Joan Rogers that is so nice that everyone at Centertown School simple adore her. Dan Bass danba@usit.net

Posted by: Dan Bass at February 27, 2006 07:43 AM (I11kX)

3 IP seems to only post these types of stories. Quite frankly I would say that I think the most "harm" that has happened is to the reputations of the "victims" Imagine having to go thru your adolescence being constantly teased that you had told your mom that you were "molested" by the prettiest teacher in school. Every other kid in his class will be saying "Nice going *ssh*l* You ruined a good thing. If you didn't want it any more give her my number. Hook me up "

Posted by: john ryan at February 27, 2006 09:17 AM (TcoRJ)

4 Ummmm.... How can an attractive older woman "molest" a teenage boy, exactly? This is the stuff that adolescent fantasies are made of!

Posted by: docjim505 at February 27, 2006 09:58 AM (MC8cP)

5 You guys make it tough to take a side. On one hand, I agree with john ryan just from my own personal experiences with puberty. If it were my child, I would be on the warpath. But when I was 13, I spent many an afternoon or night in my treehouse with a pair of binoculars staring at the 20-something divorcee either in her shower (bedroom window was always open) or watching her getting a tan in the backyard. I would have loved for her to teach me a thing or two back then. I even used to go over and do things for her - like mow her yard, carry in groceries, etc. As an adult now, I suspect she knew I was her own personal peeping tom. I believe the open window was payment for the chores I did for her or she just liked to be watched. That was one pretty young lady and, if not at age 13, I'm sure my dad would not have been too upset by the time I was 15 to hear I was boning the single woman that every man on the street talked about. Of course, I was too young and stupid to even think about making an awkward move. Ironically, she was also an elementary school teacher. But Dan, it's hard for me to believe anyone would give up their career, reputation, and future unless she did more than what you say. Under most circumstances, a truly innocent person would fight like crazy for the sake of their own name. What you're saying is that she rolled over (no pun intended) due to a conspiracy. If the 13 y.o. were lying, a good lawyer would have had him on the witness stand and have him in tears confessing to the JFK assassination. I would only advocate putting a 13 year old through this IF I was sure he were lying, BTW, so we don't get into a mode of blaming the victim. I would demand to put the evidence on trial. If she really didn't do it, then what possible evidence could there be other than his word against her word unless he went straight to the police and had them break out a rape kit? That's why I find your story difficult to believe. I'm not saying it's not true because I'm not familiar with the case other than what I've heard on TV but if you can come across (again, no pun intended) with some hard information instead of vague statements, I'll give you a chance to win me over but our prisons are littered with people who are inside due to some grand conspiracy against them - their words, certainly not mine. What I see happening is a kid who gets lucky. He knows he's lucky and, like all 13 year old boys, brags about it to all his friends. Word gets around and one parent calls his parents and the story blows wide open. Again, I'm willing to read further if you can point me somewhere but it would have to be pretty convincing because any half-way decent lawyer and/or judge wouldn't allow all of the 'chatter' that has nothing to do with the case, to be presented. I'm also not naive enough to think that evidence can't be manufactured but you mention a lot of people involved and when there are that many, sooner or later, the perjury will start to get out. Give us more details.

Posted by: slug at February 27, 2006 11:42 AM (wcNc2)

6 By the way - just to clarify: I, in no way, condone predatory action by an adult onto a child. I'm just saying when I was 13 and having all these new things happening to me (think Joseph Gribble when he grew up over the summer), I would have clawed through 6 feet of granite to get the opportunity to get into my neighbor's pants.

Posted by: slug at February 27, 2006 01:32 PM (vQoK9)

7 What is it was a male teacher and male kid? Should a same-sex affair be seen as more or less predatory? Often times young gay kids dream about the older men in their lives.

Posted by: ColeWake at February 27, 2006 04:14 PM (xQltn)

8 This isn't about gay kids. It is about one really hot lady. Man, is she hot, or what?

Posted by: Leatherneck at February 27, 2006 06:12 PM (D2g/j)

9 The difference has a lot to do with the perception by the parent and the age of of the child and his awareness. A mentally retarded (or PC equivalent) 13 year old would never (hopefully) be acceptable to the parent or by society as a teacher's sexual partner. There have been lot of movies where the teen boy spends the whole two hours trying to get with the older woman. Most people don't seem to have a big problem with a 'normal' hormonal boy and an older woman. The line gets a lot fuzzier when it's the kid's teacher but, otherwise, they're considered normal feelings. Many fathers would just be relieved to find out their son isn't gay. Even most liberal parents don't want their son to be gay though they might tell you otherwise. It's kind of like the hypocritical anti-gun leftists who only think it should apply to everyone but themselves and their bodyguards. I'm not saying it's right or wrong. It just is. A normal, 13 year old heterosexual male trying to get laid isn't considered taboo. It's considered normal. How many of us men can honestly raise their hand and say they didn't want a chance to nail every teacher they had that was within reason when their hormones kicked in? To a 13 year old, any woman under 80 years old and 400 pounds is within reason. But at 13, a teenage boy is not likely to have come to accept any homosexual feelings he may have nor has it become acceptable for that type of relationship that NAMBLA is trying to make legal, much less a teacher and a student. Just my 2 cents.

Posted by: slug at February 27, 2006 08:04 PM (vQoK9)

10 Slug, you're 2 cents is worth a million. And it makes all the sense in the world.

Posted by: Oyster at February 28, 2006 10:29 AM (7YTVr)

11 Crap! "your" 2 cents ....

Posted by: Oyster at February 28, 2006 10:30 AM (7YTVr)

12 Pamela Joan Rogers 26. February.2006 Pamela Joan Rogers has now completed her jail time. In the 198 days she was in the Warren County Jail, I was able to befriend her and find out that she is a very sweet nice kindhearted person. This is exactly what people that know her have said about her from the beginning of this ordeal. I have studied the case for hundreds of hours and know that she is not guilty of anything. Ms Rogers was just too trusting and she let herself get involved in a sting. I have talked with her parents, I have talked with the young manÂ’s family, I have talked with teachers at Warren County High School were the young man is now a student, I have talked with teachers at Centertown School, and talked with people in general around Warren County and have figured out who was involved in the sting. I have received information that the young man has told several different people that there is nothing to this case. There is no question Â“Pamela Rogers is not guilty of anythingÂ”. Her plea was nodo contendere, which means that she said not guilty. Even the DA said it was no admitting of guilty. The boyÂ’s mother told me the last thing that Pamela told her when this mess started was that she would not do anything to hurt her son. So she went to jail to keep the boy from having to testify at a trial. The mother told me that Pamela did not do anything to be humiliated like she has been. She also told me her family had been treated like criminals and that the case had been handled very poorly. Remember we are talking about people that were very close friends although the District Attorney has forced them to stop talking now. One member of the boyÂ’s family told me that Pamela was like a sister or daughter and before this mess came up they all adored her. My analysis of the case is that the ex-husband was very close friends with a few people that were very close to the investigator for the District Attorney and the District Attorney himself and this group of men and one woman decided to sting Pamela Rogers because of the nasty divorce between her and her husband. Also the mother told me that the woman involved in the string most likely was PamelaÂ’s ex-husband lover. There was also an earlier major problem between the boyÂ’s family and several of the people involved in the sting according to the boyÂ’s mother, which reinforces ideas of a sting. So one can draw the conclusion that the sting was not only directed at Ms Rogers, but also at the boyÂ’s family and it all was for the purpose of humiliation and belittlement. An analyzation of the films made of the District Attorney more than shows that he was getting a very big high out of talking on National TV shows about this beautiful lady performing sexual related acts on this 13 year old boy. His performance on films made at the trial verifies this conclusion. With the closeness of the investigator for the District Attorney and the District Attorney to this group of people, one could most reasonably conclude that they all knew about what was to happen back in October 2004, when the ex-husband was trying to get Pamela connected with this boy. What the Pamela Joan Rogers case reduced to is that there was a group of men and one woman in McMinnville Tennessee that got the District Attorney to humiliate these two families and Ms Rogers had to take the Â“no contestÂ” plea to keep these friends of the District Attorney from putting her in prison for many years. This is just another example of the pit falls in our legal system and shows why we have the right to expect the people that enforce our laws to be of the highest moral and ethical character.

Posted by: Dan at February 28, 2006 02:02 PM (I11kX)

13 So, Dan, Pamela went to jail to avoid the boy having to testify in a sting operation conducted by her husband, her husband's lover, an investigator for the DA, the DA, and the boy. And the primary purpose was to humiliate two families? That's some conspiracy.

Posted by: Mike at February 28, 2006 03:38 PM (7JhpN)

14 No. Mike, the boy did not have anything to do with it. His family was also the Objective of the sting.

Posted by: Dan at March 02, 2006 08:26 PM (/yC9R)

15 Hey everbody, do you all like apples? I'm a male model, live in East Tennessee, not far from where Pam lives, 'bout 2 hours away. I've been writing her letters for the duration of her short prison sentance. Gotten to know her pretty good. Is she guilty as charged? Well, I never really gave a red rats ass, hey she's beautiful, intelligent and single. Thats all the reason I need to ask her out on a date. And she's actualy considering my offer. All the media and legal hype about her is just background noise to me. I don't know what the big fuss was all about she's just a woman for crying out loud. Everyone acts as tho' she fell from outer space. Whats up with that.Why was this thing with her case so blown out of proportion and hyped up way outta' control? Our society is so hungry for a new slant of sex gossip that they will trample all over themselves to get to it. Pathetic. I'm not concerned with trusting her.....I worry about you people, you know, the giant collective pervert known as the general public. If the American general public were one person, I wouldn't trust him alone with a one-eyed-purple-people-eater in a pink-polka-dot-bikini. So excuse the hell out of me if I see this woman in a nuetral light free from all the crazy opinions and charges railed against her. The bottom line is......I've gotten to know her pretty close, and she's about as respectful, kind, sincere and normal a woman as I've ever met. Beleive me, I've dated enough wacko women and sex crazed nut-bags to know one when I see one. Pam ain't it. So all you out there in hype land who thought they had a sleezy story to masterbate over.... Read it and weep. Looks like you'll have to turn your prurient attentions elswhere. Pam is now free, free to go and free from all you. How do you like them apples?

Posted by: Brian at April 04, 2006 08:01 PM (fkaXX)

16 Oh and for the record.....Dan is 100% correct.

Posted by: Brian at April 04, 2006 08:02 PM (fkaXX)

17 By the way Dan.....why you ignoring my Emails bro?Either that or you have one heck of a sensitive spam filter. I just wanted to ask if Pam is under some code of silence right now I haven't heard from her or her family and they don't return my calls anymore....everything ok? I realize she can't talk about her case but....she can still go out on a dates and see new friends right? Is there some personal restrictions being placed on her I wasn't informed of by her? Is she and her family paranoid? They never avoided me before. Man I haven't heard a peep out of her since her release and trust me....we are close. I became her new best friend, now for no apparent reason my attempts to contact her get no response. That ain't like her....at all....she'd never treat anyone like that, most of all me....so who is putting her up to this? Is she ok? You obviously are allowed contact with her presently....how's she holding up?

Posted by: Brian at April 04, 2006 08:20 PM (fkaXX)

18 I am French with a case in Detroit and travelling from France for this... I read this morning USA Today and I see the Pamela story, and I move on the WEB to know more about the story. This are clear Pamela are in love and abandonned and the messages or any in the web are not SEX messages but claims for love only I think about you think about me ! My wife are 19 years younger than me and the first days I said do not love me I am too old for you !! and now we are married from 12 years ago with two childrens... Love are nos pure SEX but sex follow the love. Poor Pam I hope US citizens can help you. Jean-Claude

Posted by: Jean-Claude at April 13, 2006 07:34 AM (7XQUQ)

19 Nevermind Dan....I got my answers from Pam....but thanks anyway...you mute, catatonic creep.The only time you broke your silence with me is when you discovered I did indeed have letters from Pam.....that was rude man. But thats ok....I know everything I need to know now. Go screw yourself.

Posted by: Brian at April 15, 2006 12:21 AM (aUgVW)

20 I would like to know how I could send this lady a letter with my condolances and an invitation to be with a guy her own age and give her a third chance at life. Anyone know how I could possibly get this done?

Posted by: Steve at May 02, 2006 04:06 PM (wZLWV)

21 All I gotta say is that this kid is lucky as hell! Have you seen the video of her dancin? I mean, c'mon! She's fine as heck, especially for a 30 year old. She was "Miss Nitro" too. I would not be traumatized by an "experience" with her, I guarantee that. Man... she can dance like a stripper. Wish she were my teacher...

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January 07, 2006

Sarah Bench-Salorio Gets Prison for Child Sex

(Orange County, California) Following up on previous reports (here and here), former teacher and prominent child molester, Sarah Bench-Salorio (photos), was sentenced to six years in prison after pleading guilty to 29 counts of lewd conduct with three schoolboys.

From NBC4.tv:

In pronouncing sentence, Orange County Superior Court Judge Richard Toohey said Sarah Bench-Salorio, 29, had violated the trust parents put in teachers.
"One thing the court cannot escape as it relates to this matter ... is it involved the violation of trust ... the defendant being a teacher in the school system," Toohey said.
The judge said parents "expect there will be appropriate conduct" when they put their children in school.
"I realize there is no excuse for what I did," Bench-Salorio said Friday.
Bench-Salorio, an English teacher, entered her guilty plea Sept. 28 and could have been sentenced to a term between three and six years. She would have faced up to 64 years in prison had she gone to trial, defense attorney Allan Stokke said.
According to evidence at a hearing, Bench-Salorio molested three boys ranging in age from 12 to 14.

I contend that Bench-Salorio is being given a gift. Think of the damage she's done. Think of the victimized boys, their families, her own family, the school. Think of what would be the punishment for a man committing similar crimes.

We must also remember that one boy "estimated the number of times he and his teacher had sex by the condoms in a box that he went through -- 22 of them, he said -- and added that sometimes no condom was used." Bench-Salorio experienced no momentary lapse of judgment. She was engaged in the seduction and long-term, serial sexual molestation of children. The victims' parents called her a "pedophile and sexual predator." I agree.

Given all the circumstances, is six years reasonable punishment? I don't think so. Not even close. Bench-Salorio should be looking at double or triple that amount or more.

Nonetheless, her attorney, Allan Stokke is planning on wheelbarrowing a buttload of boo-hoos on the judge to get her sentence reduced. He'll say the married mother of three foster children is bipolar and suffers from depression and he will present doctor's reports and "all kinds of information" from "various people to show her absolutely excellent background."

What happens next is anyone's guess. Will the judge reduce the sentence? Maybe. It's a California judge in a California court.

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1 Could you imagine what sentence I, a 40-something male teacher, would get if I did something like this with female students? Or male students, for that matter.

Posted by: Rhymes With Right at January 08, 2006 10:38 PM (iy7Eg)

2 Hmmn. I think it's very interesting that you haven't heard anything in the media from the boys involved. I wonder if they feel victimized, or if this was consensual. If they feel no harm, and they do not feel victimized, six years is far too harsh a sentence. J

Posted by: Jordan at January 08, 2006 10:55 PM (kTN4S)

3 Jordan, by law an underage child cannot be "consensual". Feeling "no harm" or not "feeling victimized" has no merit on child rape.

Posted by: Son Of The Godfather at January 09, 2006 05:57 AM (maXzk)

4 Sara made mistakes in her life, and we cannot let it go unpunished. Does she deserve 6 years NO. She needs to be sentenced to a program where she can get the help she needs. I think it runs far deeper then we will ever know. Maybee look to her parents, and what happend to her as a child. Who can ever tell, but Sara is a good person, and has done 2 year almost in OCJ, I think she should be in a program where she can get the help she deserves, instead of set to prison where she will learn nothing, and have no responsability for her actions, in prison you only lose time, and DONOT get the help that as a human being you should recieve.

Posted by: PC OCJ 01 at January 09, 2006 03:13 PM (D+Me0)

5 Yes, "BY LAW" no minor may be consensual. I think that's pretty stupid. What exactly happens.. .what epiphany occurs on your 18th birthday? I know there's no easy answer to this (and I'm playing devil's advocate a bit

, but I think that it's somewhat silly to arbitrarily set an age. I just think it's interesting that the world is drawn to these "newsporn" stories... but we never get to hear from the "victim". I think it's because we want to impose an innocence on them that may or may not be there. And we're afraid to hear the truth. J

Posted by: Jordan at January 09, 2006 11:48 PM (kTN4S)

6 I think she just went into the wrong line of work.

Posted by: Cindy at February 23, 2006 11:32 AM (sMpRz)

7 No matter what anyone thinks, the boys were victims. They were underage and the teacher is in a position of authority over them. You might consider now what are parents or society to think if our morals and values are no longer upheld or respected. It's a shame that our society has anyone who pursues children to satisfy their deviant sexual behavior. What puzzles me is how many view a female predator differently from a male one. This woman got 6 years because she should have known better first of all, and secondly she was an authority figure. She is NOT a victim herself. I agree she may have underlying conditions which lead to her deviant behavior, but it was also her responsibility to seek help when she first realized her thoughts towards the young boys was more than acceptable friendly. We can't feel more sorry for her because she is female. A male or female should be given the same punishment for the same crime. I see some have also questioned why 18 year old is the age that society has chosen to use as the magic age children become adults. This was the most logical age based on mental development of MOST, not all. Maybe it's not the best age to choose, but society needs to set an age for many legal reasons. Some states say as young as 16. But, in order to give children the best chance at being ready to face lives in society as adults that line the sand is drawn at 18 years old as being the age an child is mentally capable of making a reasonable, educated decision for themselves. Consider just how ready is a 14 year old to make a decision that will affect them long term like having a child ??? I think most of us when we're young understand that what we thought we knew at that age.. when we got older we understood things in a different light. So, yes, those boys were victims and they may not realize it until later in life. The fact that the one boy told her parents of the incident says something to that effect. Nobody forced him to talk. Just my 2 cents worth. She got what she deserved...and it probably should be been more considering it was 3 boys.

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January 03, 2006

British Sex-For-Visas Scandal

(London) Authorities have initiated an investigation into an alleged sex-for-visas scam by British immigration officials.

From Sky.com:

A former worker at an immigration centre in Croydon told The Sun that women were allowed to stay in the UK in return for sex.
Anthony Pamnani, 23, said he quit after four years in disgust at the goings-on.
He said "ugly" applicants were often made to queue for hours while those considered good-looking would be seen straight away.
The whistleblower also told the paper that vital security checks on immigrants were not carried out.

Since this story has hit the newspapers and involves alleged inadequate security screening, the public will likely demand a comprehensive review of the entire immigration department. I believe it should be simple to verify the accuracy of specific claims. However, if true, it may be more difficult to determine how widespread the corruption is and how long it's been occurring.

It will be interesting to see how the British public reacts if it's found that people are discriminated against because they're ugly.

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December 27, 2005

Cow Rapist Gets Off

Rural Temptress (Neillsville, Wisconsin) Last March, Harold G. Hart, 64, was arrested and charged with illegal sexual gratification with an animal (typical victim at right) along with disorderly conduct and two counts of obstruction.

Last Thursday, Hart pleaded no contest to the charges. Hart was sentenced to two years probation and ordered to undergo psychological counseling.

Since Hart was convicted of illegal sex with an animal, I must assume that there is some act that's considered to be legal sex with an animal. Frankly, I'm afraid to ask.

On a different subject, congratulations to Howie for receiving his P.H.D. As a Jawa blogger, it's assumed that the distinction was awarded by the Big Ten, which everybody knows is actually the Big Eleven.

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December 09, 2005

Debra Lafave Plea Deal Rejected

(Marion County, Florida) As most people know, teacher Debra Lafave (photos) pleaded guilty to irresponsibly and criminally engaging in sex with a 14-year-old boy. Subsequently, she was sentenced in Hillsborough County Court to no jail in accordance with plea deal which some people considered outrageous. But the story doesn't end there.

Unfortunately for 25-year-old Lafave, when she was engaging in sex with the boy, she was committing crimes in two different jurisdictions. Although her case has been settled in Hillsborough County, it remains to be adjudicated in Marion County.

Yesterday, Marion County prosecutors and Lafave's attorney, John Fitzgibbons, presented a plea agreement to Judge Hale Stancil to resolve the charges against Lafave. Unexpectedly, Judge Stancil rejected the plea agreement and set April 10 as the trial date.

According to Ric Ridgeway, a spokesman for the State Attorney's Office, Judge Stancil said he had some concerns which needed to be addressed. The attorneys have promised to have a new plea agreement before the scheduled trial date.

Consequently, the soap-opera sex saga of Debra Lafave continues. Stay tuned.

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November 22, 2005

Debra Lafave Gets Off

(Tampa, Florida) Debra Lafave pleaded guilty today to two counts of lewd and lascivious battery for having sex with a schoolboy. She originally planned to plead insanity but was encouraged to accept a plea deal with the stipulation that she would not go to jail. Lafave was facing a possible 15 years in prison on each charge if she went to trial. But there will be no trial and she gets no jail.

People should reject the delusion that Lafave's sentence is having the punishment fit the crime. She regularly had sex with a student with total diregard for the law and absolute refusal to exercise her responsibilities as a teacher. In my estimation, justice has not been served.

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1 GAWD! She is hot! Sorry mike - trying to collect my thoughts on this and get a handle on it before commenting like an adult. Lotta weirdness going around.

Posted by: hondo at November 22, 2005 06:15 PM (Jvmry)

2 It seems I started hearing about these things a year or so ago. Now I see a case like this about once a month. IÂ’m not surprised about this plea bargain and the fact the this rapist gets off pretty much scott free. Even on this blog, most of the posters donÂ’t think itÂ’s really any big deal. This decision is just a reflection of society and how it views these incidents. I can only think that somewhere in the future there will be a parent, not one of those white or black trash parents who donÂ’t give a shit. But a parent who did all the right things and raised a good kid harmed by one of these predators. The parent will be told it is not really a crime. One day a good parent will kill one of these criminals and he will be punished. Our country is good in so many ways, but it is also Fu#@ed up in so many ways.

Posted by: Brad at November 22, 2005 06:26 PM (3OPZt)

3 I think it's a damn shame...that a 14 year old boy is getting much better-looking ass then I am.

Posted by: Billy at November 22, 2005 08:17 PM (oxMjD)

4 Brad, You are so right. Also, there is a chance I will be in Seattle this summer, and I would like for my wife and I to get together with you and your wife. Is that possible? Could we go out to eat, etc.?

Posted by: jesusland joe at November 22, 2005 09:39 PM (rUyw4)

5 Our laws should be color blind and should also be gender blind. It is one thing for some of us to kid about "where were teachers like that when we were teens." It is a whole nother matter for the criminal justice system to let her off for a crime that if the genders were reversed we'd be saying "castrate the bastard." Don't know if rape is the right word for what she did but I have no doubt that her actions were wrong.

Posted by: LargeBill at November 22, 2005 09:59 PM (9g0u+)

6 I would have loved getting "raped" by a teacher like that.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at November 22, 2005 10:23 PM (8e/V4)

7 Joe, that would be cool. FYI August and September are the best months to visit. It's almost always 80+ and it almost never rains. Give me as much notice as you can as my son plays lots of baseball. After the Little League season, we play on a select 10-year-old team and we have about 5 weekend tournaments this summer so we will be on the road most weekends. Weekdays, we are always around. If you want, I'll send you our Christmas card with photos and contact info. If you catch up with Greg, save the story until you come out here. Brad

Posted by: Brad at November 22, 2005 10:42 PM (6mUkl)

8 Lafave's attorney, John Fitzgibbons - "To place an attractive young woman in that kind of hell hole [JAIL] is like placing a piece of raw meat in with the lions," he said in July. "I don't think Debbie could survive it." Perhaps that might have discouraged others from doing the same.

Posted by: MathewK at November 22, 2005 10:48 PM (pVHqF)

9 I can't believe nobody's commented the title of this post.

Posted by: Eric Kephas at November 23, 2005 12:59 AM (6WIGh)

10 The relevant question to determine whether or not she's a perverted freak: 12-14 or 15-17? If victims in the first category, shame on her, those kids will go gay because of the fuss about their field trip to where babies come from. If in the second category, they definitely loved that lesson of sex education, it's just their parents crappy yapping and that should not be a reason to jail people.

Posted by: A Finn at November 23, 2005 03:36 AM (cWMi4)

11 Bullshit! I prayed for a teacher like her when I was 12. AFIN when you reach puberty you will understand.

Posted by: greyrooster at November 23, 2005 04:05 AM (ZaAd/)

12 I bet the punishment would fit the crime if the teacher had been a guy. Rape and divorce laws need a serious revamping in this country.

Posted by: Jack's Smirking Revenge at November 23, 2005 04:20 AM (CtVG6)

13 Just saying boys 12-14 still listen to other people, since many of the other people seem 3 times bigger than them, so the fuss makes them think what they did was the biggest wrong they can ever do =and=they=go=tumbling=down=the=road=to=insanity=> gay/a-sexual. (This is valid info only in countries where media is used to control peoples thinking, it is not to be taken to consideration outside Usa, China and dictatorships. Author of this text thinks religion also counts as a media, and generously donates all responsibility to who ever cleans up comments) 15-17 is more of a "Oh yeah?! Well fuck you, I'll do it again"-season. This group can be stretched to earlier in overpopulated areas with social pressure to become an adult fast.

Posted by: A Finn at November 23, 2005 05:46 AM (cWMi4)

14 Didn't I hear that the parents are okay with it? That should hold some weight in the issue, shouldn't it? If I heard wrong, please correct me.

Posted by: Oyster at November 23, 2005 05:51 AM (YudAC)

15 Jack's Smirking Revenge, dude, of course. Women are emotionally and mentally unstable from birth to menopause, they need the extra protection. (This comment is not to be used in feminofascist propaganda)

Posted by: A Finn at November 23, 2005 05:54 AM (cWMi4)

16 Eric Kephas: I noticed it too. Mike's so clever.

Posted by: Oyster at November 23, 2005 05:55 AM (YudAC)

17 Brad, We would be going on an Alaskan cruise. My wife has to decide whether she wants to go on the cruise, or she has another option which is too drawn out to tell you and you wouldn't care anyway. I'm pushing for the cruise, which probably means she will pick the other option, but if we take the cruise, it will be in August or September. I think we will have two days in Seattle, if I read the schedule correctly. I'll let you know for sure.

Posted by: jesusland joe at November 23, 2005 10:06 AM (rUyw4)

18 It's easy to dismiss these cases as being the answer to every teenage boy's dream. I'll admit that my jaw dropped (which through Newton's third law caused an opposite reaction in other parts) the first time I saw a photo of Miss Lafave. However, regardless of gender, it's still completely wrong for a teacher to be having sex with a student - and a student who's a minor at that. I'm still trying to figure out where all these cases are suddenly coming from. Is it a dominance thing? Is it that these women don't feel that they have control in their lives so they assert their dominance over someone else the only way they can?

Posted by: Graeme at November 23, 2005 11:12 AM (oMlBu)

19 Graeme, these cases aren't new. They're just being prosecuted now because a few parents are bringing it about. An old boyfriend, years ago, bragged to me how he slept with one of his teachers all through his senior year. My husband bragged about "tagging" one of his teachers too. No. It's not right. But even so, neither the old boyfriend or my husband were psychologically marred by it either as they were both in high school and quite eager to "partake".

Posted by: Oyster at November 23, 2005 12:12 PM (fl6E1)

20 I think the fact that so many people are getting their drawers in a wad over this is just idiotic. I'm sorry to have to be the bellwether of reality, but the fact is that a teenage boy having sex with an adult woman is not the same as a teenage girl having sex with an adult man, no matter what anyone says. Males and females are different, and no amount of PC gender equivalency will change that. Sex for males is different than for females, with different goals and motivations, and especially with different psychological effects. I don't advocate such behavior, but if I found out that my son had sex with his teacher, I'd put a stop to it, but not get the vapors over it, whereas if I found out my daughter was having sex with a teacher, there'd be a dead teacher. It's only because of liberalism that we've come to treat boys and girls the same, and with noticably disastrous results, as too many boys are failing to become men, but rather exist in a state of suspended adolescence wherein they are neither held accountable for their actions, nor expected to become productive members of society, i.e. good husbands and fathers. Likewise, too many girls are just becoming amoral whores who see nothing wrong with having sex with many anonymous partners, often at the same time, and while many of them get pregnant with frightening regularity, fewer of them are becoming good mothers. The result is that more and more children of each new generation are fatherless bastards who have only negative role models who give only bad examples, and the fabric of society frays a little more with each generation. This is what gives us teachers who crave sex with immature children, because those teachers are themselves still children psychologically, because the current generation of adults is a product of the first divorce generation of the 1970's, and themselves have backgrounds of devoid of solid moral guidance. Liberalism is killing our society, just as Marx intended.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 23, 2005 01:12 PM (0yYS2)

21 You got it, Max! Right on!

Posted by: large at November 23, 2005 01:43 PM (fEUSs)

22 I'd agree that the psychology of sex differs in males and females but I don't think that the issue can be reduced to being: it's kind of okay for boys but very wrong for girls. For someone whose 25, I really have my doubts that a 14 year old makes a fantastic sexual partner. Therefore the motivation for having sex with the student has to be something darker. Not 'take over the world' darker but enough that it is the teacher using the student for his /her convenience (granted I can't say what the actual motivations by the teacher are). A 14 year old is not going to turn down advances by a hot looking 25 year old and the teacher knows this. That's what makes the whole thing wrong - an adult (regardless of gender) knowingly using a minor's lack of wisdom and self control against them. I don't think that she should spend the rest of her life in jail, or even 15 years for that matter. Three years may be appropriate, but those three years should be spent in jail, not under house arrest.

Posted by: Graeme at November 23, 2005 03:28 PM (PKbLu)

23 I hate you. I now go to the 'No Shirt' pic more often than that Stars Wars one. I hate you.

Posted by: CUS at November 23, 2005 03:39 PM (bbXZq)

24 Graeme, I have a 15-year old boy so I can say that I have observed some of the behavior we are discussing on this thread. We had meetings with the students-teachers about a month ago and I saw quite a lot of behavior that I considered inapropriate. There was quite a lot of hugging, touching, feeling contact that I believe teachers should avoid at all costs. One reason is that it prevents a teacher from being objective about a student or group of students, and it also reinforces familiar behavior on the part of students. My observation is that it is mainly a lack of maturity on the part of teachers, but also, I have to say, a lifestyle choice by the teachers themselves. Many of the younger teachers frequent nightclubs where music and dance mix with casual drug use. Many more of the teachers are younger, female, and drug users. Sex is bound to follow.

Posted by: jesusland joe at November 23, 2005 04:22 PM (rUyw4)

25 I'm stumped as to what could be done to prevent this kind of behaviour. Maybe it's as simple as only hiring really unattractive older teachers. In high school I was taught mainly by Catholic priests and the few female teachers that were present were......well let's just say that no amount of hormones flooding my brain could make them seem more attractive. Heck one of them didn't even shave her legs. Now that's incentive to keep your eyes on the black board.

Posted by: Graeme at November 23, 2005 04:43 PM (PKbLu)

26 Graeme, You identified part of the problem. There are way too few male teachers at the public schools these days. We have 3000 students in our school system, and we have 4 schools where there is not a single male teacher or administrator. There is a male janitor who makes an appearance after school is out. I'm not saying that having males at a school would change everything, but I do think there would be an improvement to a certain degree.

Posted by: jesusland joe at November 23, 2005 04:59 PM (rUyw4)

27 Sorry mike - still trying to collect my thoughts on this and answer as an adult - but GAWD DAMN! The NY Post has a photospread on Debra ... I can't think straight!

Posted by: hondo at November 23, 2005 05:15 PM (Jvmry)

28 Let's just be honest. If the older teacher is ugly she is an old woman taking advantage of boys' almost uncontrollable horniness = manipulation and rape. If the older teacher is hot she is an older woman teaching a young man the joys of the human body = dreams really DO come true. In my experience teenage girls aren't horny like teenage boys are = any male teacher with a student = rape.

Posted by: Harkonnendog at November 23, 2005 06:04 PM (hHi5E)

29 I wasn't aware of those other cases that 'Interested Participant' referenced... That was an informative blog entry. It shows that this is not an isolated incident, and the problem of light punishments for major offenses such as this seems to be a serious one.

Posted by: Aakash at November 23, 2005 06:22 PM (kxzuC)

30 hahahahahah jesusjoe " isaw laots of touching and feeling...inapproroate" you perv. dude, you are screwed. that explains it all reading your posts, you guys are like closet gay jeff gannons or something. all wacked out on sex, or lack of, or whatever, but goddamn you got issues. how funny. all conservative bleat "me peepee makes me a bad boy...my peepee makes me a bad boy...gotta kill...gotta hate...everyone elses fault my pastor says my peepee makes me a bad boy" thanks for the entertainment you impotent dicks. it gives us insight why you cant stop talking about killing and oppressing everything for your "moral values" america hates you jeff gannon america. ernie

Posted by: ernie at November 23, 2005 10:29 PM (ocmaF)

31 Wow ernie! You really have a way with the English language! Guess all I kin sez's you sure do have a purdy mouth!

Posted by: hondo at November 23, 2005 10:38 PM (Jvmry)

32 Sounds like ernie's a fan of the Big Gay Porn C*ck!

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 24, 2005 08:20 AM (0yYS2)

33 Ernie obviously didn't go to school, or if he did he was like Jethro Bodine and didn't finish 5th grade, so he wouldn't know what I was talking about. Ernie, so you are how a person acts when all he has to look forward to in life is flipping burgers, or armed robbery. What a loser!

Posted by: jesusland joe at November 24, 2005 10:50 AM (rUyw4)

34 For someone accusing people of hate, Ernie is displaying a lot of it himself.

Posted by: MathewK at November 24, 2005 05:24 PM (pVHqF)

35 He's only angry because he's confused and ashamed over his love of Big Gay Porn C*ck.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 24, 2005 05:54 PM (0yYS2)

36 lil' ernie kinda reminds me of the Rick Moranis character in Ghostbusters - the lil' Keymaster - hyper, incoherent, babbling off in all directions! I keep waiting for him to praise the coming of Gozer. 1) lil' ernie is young - mid teens probably. 2) I suspect (but can't swear to) that he (not a female) is not native-born based on the type of mistakes he makes with English. 3) He may be searching for his identity - but in his ignorance defines it by "association against" rather than self - in other words - he needs us for him to be something 4) He's angry - over what? Its complex - we just happen to be handy. In the holiday spirit sympathy is in order - there are two parents out there (probably hard-working immigrants) who have to deal with this 24/7. Try to imagine what they are going thru.

Posted by: hondo at November 24, 2005 10:53 PM (Jvmry)

37 Oyster's husband: My kind of guy. The man is a saint. Much smarter than I. I tried to nail my English teacher for two years and failed. Did do the preacher's well endowed daughter thou. This gave me hero status in the eyes of my classmates. But the English teacher would have given me God like status. Damn, she was hot.

Posted by: greyrooster at November 25, 2005 07:09 AM (ZaAd/)

38 Why couldn't that pimple faced idiot keep his mouth shut, at least until after he made a baby with Debra? That reminds me of MY early sex... I was four, and my Aunt Bertha was 48. She would volunteer to babysit me, and the first night, she mounted me! I learned quickly, and I was soon pumping my tiny hog as fast as I could... I fondly recall squirting my first load of tadpoles deep inside her!!! I porked her until she died, age 81, good ol' Aunt Bertha, she was the best hunk of meat I ever had!! I miss her every day...

Posted by: brainbuster at November 25, 2005 08:46 AM (i3qFG)

39 Brainbuster, you had it made! I always wanted to pork one of my aunts, but she turned out to be a lezzie! She had one great bod, tho... I saw her naked a bunch of times, or maybe she planned it that way... hmmmm... I think she knew that every time I saw her naked, I would rush off to whack my meat. She would wait about a minute or so, and then call for me, knowing that I had a huge boner going! That was one evil lezzie! I would have to really speed things up, and then when I came out, she would smile, knowing that I had just squirted my load!

Posted by: wisepunk at November 25, 2005 11:59 AM (i3qFG)

40 This is BS, Bi Polar has become an excuse for just about anything. Great for the drug companys and well great for this chick. If it had been me I would be in jail for a long time. Don't get me wrong, I am a guy and wish I had a teacher like this when I was 14, but as a father I am disgusted. I am disgusted with this case and have just lost more faith in the US justice system. I got more time for a joint and 1/4 ounce of weed, think about that...

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November 21, 2005

Sandra "Beth" Geisel Sexually Abused by Students Says Judge

(Albany, New York) Today, Albany County Judge Stephen Herrick formalized a six-month jail sentence as punishment for Sandra "Beth" Geisel (photo) after she pleaded guilty to one count of rape. And then, astonishingly, the judge made all her excuses for her by stating:

"At the time this occurred, you were needy, drinking heavily and had a low self esteem. While you looked at this as affection, you were being used, abused and sexually abused. You became their playmate."

So, it appears that 42-year-old Geisel wasn't really responsible for her behavior. She had low self esteem and was victimized by the teen boys she met for sex. Holy-freaking-moly! The prosecution is outraged. The parents are outraged. And it's all because Judge Stephen Herrick is filled with boo-hoo logic which says a stupid woman can't be held responsible for her behavior.

Nevertheless, with credit for time served, Geisel skates out of jail next month with a hand slap and an apology. Poor thing. Note to all future defendants appearing before Judge "Bleeding Heart" Herrick: Wear a dress.

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1 Dude, none of my teachers ever looked anything like that. My teachers were all frumpy hausfraus who wore denim skirts and necklaces made out of wood.

Posted by: Jeff Harrell at November 21, 2005 08:40 PM (QPe2p)

2 Why should she be punished just because the parents don't want their teenage boys to have sex? As if it would hurt the hormone-crazy dimwits in any way... Pfft, just lowers their opinion of women, and that quickly bounces back if they watch TV.

Posted by: A Finn at November 22, 2005 03:25 AM (cWMi4)

3 Absolutely astounding. Using Judge Herrick's logic, does this mean that sexual assault charges with be brought against the students involved? After all, they did supposedly take advantage of a woman who at the time was incapable of consenting to the act.

Posted by: Graeme at November 22, 2005 05:11 AM (xE2S7)

4 Good point, Graeme.

Posted by: Oyster at November 22, 2005 06:30 AM (YudAC)

5 Didya ever notice how the somewhat attractive female pedophiles get little jail time, or, in this case, is considered the VICTIM by this asshat judge and the, shall we say "aesthetically challenged" ones get 30 years?? http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/11/15/national/main1043917.shtml

Posted by: disgruntledinca at November 22, 2005 08:46 AM (IpG/2)

6 Obviously, either all you guys Pissing and Moaning about a 42 year year old broad who doesn't look half bad, jumping a teen ager's bones and getting 6 months for it, don't remember being a horny 15 year old wishing for something like that or you've turned into anal recluses . . . She did 'em a favor, helped herself out a little . . and got six months . . I think the judge might be just a little off to the left on this one . . . both on the sentence and his remarks . .

Posted by: large at November 22, 2005 01:20 PM (fEUSs)

7 The judge was right in both cases screwing thar ulgy womay must have been terrible torture. This chick whey brag city she was young too so. let me see checking the age fo the boys here to see if they are you know that age. Uh oh 16 on Britain thats legal unless the ager for botys ther is higher. I've seen this with young techers before when I was a yonnd stutterer in grade school my speech teacher was gorgeous. Coach found her in playboy and she wa fired. no she never did me damn I was inn third grade bit no more stutter and I loved speech so. When I was in HS it was not unheard of for younnger hip yeachers to show at student "parties" upon occasion. wrong. So it looks like a by statute yep she's guilty but both were wrong and at a party so he's no angel either. I bit easy maybe. Got to figure she was not the only girl he was trying to poke. But not escuse she knew better but I won't shake if I see her coming down the street. So 1st offense clear record. Parents choice so and I'll so that's cool. I ight hve went 364 days + some watch time. The judge judged and at at least when I live it she screw up later I can voe to off him.

Posted by: Howie at November 22, 2005 06:09 PM (D3+20)

8 If my son had scored on a good looking teacher I would be a proud dad. I fact I'm pretty sure he did. But being a gentleman he won't discuss it. A proud dad.

Posted by: greyrooster at November 23, 2005 04:28 AM (ZaAd/)

9 Reading the comments of your viewers indicates to me an astounding lack of knowledge. As a polygraph examiner who specializes in sex offenders, I have examined thousands of pedophiles. Many of the offenders I have tested, when interviewed over their sexual histories, ultimately admit when they were 14 or 15 they had sex with an adult teacher or an adult girlfriend of their mother or another adult relative. The ones who admit to this usually have a lifetime of dysfunctional activity thereafter. Ms. Geisel crossed the line with four children and six months is an extremely light penalty for assaulting these boys. A male teacher who did this with four female students (at least here in Texas) would be doing some very serious penitentiary time and most probably a life sentence. These four boys did not "get lucky". They'll be all screwed up for years and probably end up in therapy as well.

Posted by: john at November 25, 2005 08:59 PM (GEBk7)

10 John, you have pointed out an important issue, although you have it backwards. The way you state it, it would appear that the teenage sexual encounters are the cause of future sexual dysfunction. Now, did you consider that the kinds of boys that seek or are enthusiatic participants in this type of early sexual play may be already predisposed to all kinds of sexual involvement as they get older. What sort of sexual play were they into before the teacher came along? We all know that puberty brings on a lot of experimentation and these boys were 16 and 17 and not your innocent wall flower types either. On thing I have always wondered though, is how does a women rape a man? If a man is not into it or frightened, wouldn't his willie refuse to cooperate?

Posted by: laura at November 26, 2005 09:42 AM (iiunC)

11 I beg to differ with John, the pedophile examiner. I encountered the same experience with a lovely, and much older woman, when I was just 16 years old. I am today neither a dysfunctional child molester or any type of pedophile, nor do I require "therapy". Please don't generalize! In fact, looking back, a few memories of those wild times spent with her are some of the most poignant and memorable which I can recall experiencing with anyone. My parents too, were quite upset upon finding out (principly my mother), and threatened to take care of the matter by turning her in. At his point, I let them know any such action would preclude my future relationship with them. They quickly decided to let it go. It ran it's course in about 3 years or so. The woman is long out of my life, my relationship with my parents is wonderful, and once in awhile when it's brought up, I still defend her, and we all realize we made the right decision. All in all, it was probably the best learning experience from my adolescence, and helped mold me into the sexually knowledgable and caring man that I became. I also have three teenage sons, and if they happened to encounter the same occurrence, I indeed would consider them fortunate or "lucky". Today's Dad

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November 14, 2005

Cool Mom Johnson Gets 30 Years

(Denver, Colorado) Last July, 41-year-old 'Cool Mom' Sylvia Johnson (photo) pleaded guilty to two misdemeanor sex-assault counts and nine felony counts of contributing to the delinquency of a minor. Today, Cool Mom Johnson was sentenced to 30 years in prison.

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November 08, 2005

Good Gay Cheerleaders Busted

This is an outrage!!!!!!

Yahoo News : Carolina Panthers cheerleaders, Renee Thomas, left, and Angela Keathley, shown in these Hillsborough County, Fla., Sheriff's Office booking photos, were arrested early Sunday, Nov. 6, 2005 after a bar dispute that broke out after patrons complained the women were allegedly having sex in a bathroom stall. (AP Photo/Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office)

All charges must be dropped immediately. In fact is there any way we can work this into the halftime or like maybe they all kiss after a Touchdown? I would appreciate it.

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November 04, 2005

Tammy Imre Gets Six Years for Sex with 8-Year-Old

(Bridgeport, Connecticut) In September, 30-year-old Tammy Imre (pic) pleaded guilty to a charge of risk of injury to a minor in accordance with an agreement which eliminated the need for the 8-year-old victim to have to testify in court.

Today, Imre was sentenced to six years in prison and ten years probation along with being required to register as a sex offender.

From NewsDay.com:

Imre admitted engaging in sexual acts with the boy but said it stopped short of sexual intercourse.
"When this was first in the paper, it was almost a joke, because of the role reversal," prosecutor Cornelius Kelly said. "It conjures up thoughts of, 'Oh, that's a young man's dream.' But as we stand here today, we still don't know what damage this will have on the young boy's self-esteem, his interpersonal relationships. We don't know what damage the young girl suffered."
Imre's daughter, who witnessed some of the acts, is now in foster care, authorities said.
"She has hurt a lot of innocent people, including her own daughter, who not only lost her mother, but her best friend, who was my son," the boy's mother told the judge.

Imre said she was truly sorry.

Is six years enough? Turn it around to be a 30-year-old man mixing it up with an 8-year-old girl. Now, ask if six years is enough. In my opinion, six years is not even close to being enough. Frankly, though, given the customary leniency that courts show toward female pedophiles, I'm surprised she got that much.

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1 Thank God the little boy didn't knock her up! The way the system works, they would have required him to pay child support to this wacko for the next 18 years.

Posted by: joe at November 04, 2005 08:15 PM (KjTic)

2 Ah, back to the Jawa Report.

Posted by: Greyrooster at November 04, 2005 08:22 PM (ZaAd/)

3 Funny , that aint much. How much would I get if if bottomknocked an 8 year old boy

Posted by: FIlthy ALlah at November 04, 2005 09:27 PM (bikuR)

4 Thats disgusting. She deserved much more jail time. Its a total violation. Eight? oh please.

Posted by: Jane at November 04, 2005 10:14 PM (ywZa8)

5 I'm sick and tired of the judicial system allowing these creeps to plead out for any reason. Why don't they allow videotaped testimony for young children in sexual assault cases? That way the child wouldn't have the trauma of being in a court room facing his accuser. I'm sorry, but I think if one of my little ones were in that situation, I'd make them testify and just continue the therapy. All these kids are gonna grow up one day and look at their parents and say "I was already traumatized. Why didn't you make me testify so s/he could die in prison instead of getting off with a slap on the wrist?!" I'd be pissed wouldn't you?!

Posted by: Impatient Girl at November 04, 2005 10:18 PM (ftixA)

6 Eight is a bit young. Now 12 years old would have been a different matter. I wanted my english teacher, Mrs. Arce, something bad when I was 12 years old. That was a fine piece of horseflesh. It's not as bad for boys to get molested by their (female) teacher as it is for girls to. It's every little boys dream actually. Cmon guys, admit it.

Posted by: dcb at November 05, 2005 01:10 AM (8e/V4)

7 Criminalizing drugs and sex is what makes people criminals. Since the sadists enjoy punishing folks and seeing the suffer it will be difficult to see change. We have to oust the sadists and vote in rational legislators. America is supposed to be the land of second chances.

Posted by: gw at November 05, 2005 05:21 AM (DFQHK)

8 The prison time is definitely not enough. Taking advantage of an 8 year old is just sick. There can be no defense for it. It seems as though since the LeTourneau case there has been an increase in number of these cases - at least one per year. I can't come up with an explanation for it. Is it that it was always fairly common? Also these cases tend to involve teachers who already have families.

Posted by: Graeme at November 05, 2005 05:38 AM (WLPYW)

9 At least she did not teach at a Catholic School like so many of the others we've heard of the last few years.

Posted by: Rod Stanton at November 05, 2005 06:56 AM (R3FcZ)

10 Sixteen? Not a crime, but maybe she should find a different job. Eight? She's a child molester. Send her to jail.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at November 05, 2005 07:03 AM (QriEg)

11 How in the hell does a woman have sex with a 8 year old. I thought I started early at twelve. Don't believe I could have sex at 8. The woman is sick. At 8 the boy was molested. At twelve he would have been a hero to all the other twelve year olds.

Posted by: greyrooster at November 05, 2005 07:19 AM (ZaAd/)

12 Crazy persons what with these crazy persons whats becoming of the world?

Posted by: sandpiper at November 05, 2005 08:23 AM (slksM)

13 8 years old or 12 years old, the level of mental maturity isn't much different. Just because a young boy has begun to have sexual thoughts or inclinations doesn't mean he's mentally prepared to act them out, or be acted upon by an adult, and come out of the ordeal with a stable psyche.

Posted by: Oyster at November 06, 2005 08:17 AM (YudAC)

14 Oh I was prepared to act them out allright. Just ask the local Baptist preachers 15 year old daughter. The girl matured early and taught me much. Shame I wasn't the first.

Posted by: greyrooster at November 06, 2005 09:00 PM (ZaAd/)

15 This entire story has me turned on!!! Does anyone know if she has a video of them porking? I would pay BIG bucks for it.... I would settle in with some booze and some popcorn and watch that lucky little halfwit pump his puny, hairless sex organ into that nutty slut!!!! But, I bet that little creep orgasmed after four pumps... forget the video, I don't want to get cheated!

Posted by: brainbuster at November 26, 2005 04:44 AM (0U4Uv)

16 this is extremely disgusting and inappropriate, how can anyone have that kind of interest in having sex with someone's who's 8?..it's very disturbring that someone can be sexually interested in someone that young, and then to actually do things sexual is remarkably sickening and an adult doing something to someone's who's 12 is still sick and very immoral and that kind of behavior is awful and even if a preteen or younger teen would be interested in someone older, it's still not right and not ok and very immoral and a lot of people don't care about morality of one's actions and having sex around 12 is still quite young and some people attitude's towards young people having sex is very demeaning to our society and a lot of preteens/teens make bad moral decisions and have degrading behavior, and she should've had a minimum of 20 years for doing something that sick and courts are too lenient toward female pedophiles and toward most sexual criminals anyways and they should know that this kind of behavior should never occur and some people probably don't deserve 2nd chances if they do something so disgusting and the US gives too many 2nd chances to people who have sickening behavior, and she's going to be out in just 6 years and she may find that boy when he's 14 or other boys that age, or she's at least going to have a free life after only just 6 years when she shouldn't after doing something that despicable..how in the world can she have that interest and want to do such things with someone that young?..ugh!

Posted by: Chris at December 02, 2005 01:17 PM (WIvD8)

17 "...long kisses could be substituted if they couldn't have daily sex." Sounds like marriage

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September 29, 2005

Sarah Bench-Salorio Pleads Guilty to Child Sex Crimes

(Los Angeles) Following up on a previous report, former English teacher at Santiago Charter Middle School, Sarah Bench-Salorio (photos), 29, was arrested and charged with multiple counts of lewd contact for having sex with three young boys. Bench-Salorio taught the boys, aged 11 to 13, during the years 2003 and 2004. She seduced the boys over dinners, through e-mails and telephone calls for months before she molested them.

Yesterday, Bench-Salorio pleaded guilty to 29 counts of lewd acts with the three boys before Judge Richard Toohey in Orange County Superior Court under an agreement that she be sentenced to three to six years in prison. As an aside, this equates to a range of about one to two months prison for each felony child sex crime. In other words, Bench-Salorio had no books thrown at her.

According to Mark Macaulay of the Orange County District Attorney's Office, Bench-Salorio will also be required to register as a sex offender for the rest of her life. Deputy District Attorney John Christl pegged her as a "sexual predator." Bench-Salorio's attorney, Allan Stokke, stated:

"My client concluded it was in her best interest to plead guilty and get a sentence of between three and six years as opposed to 64 years," which she could have faced as a maximum term if the case had gone to trial, Stokke said.

Bench-Salorio, jailed in lieu of $500,000 bond, is scheduled to appear in court for sentencing on November 18.

For several reasons, my take is disgust. First is what she did to the boys. As an example, one boy "estimated the number of times he and his teacher had sex by the condoms in a box that he went through -- 22 of them, he said -- and added that sometimes no condom was used." Bench-Salorio experienced no momentary lapse of judgment. She was engaged in long-term, serial sexual criminal behavior with children.

Now, couple that with the fact that she is married with three foster children and listen to her apologists claim that she suffers from depression and a bipolar condition. Well, boo-freakin'-hoo! She can be bipolar and a convict. She can be depressed and a convict. Just make her a convict for a long time.

Unfortunately, she'll be in prison for no more then six years and I seriously doubt that she'll get the full six. Think of the damage she's done. Think of the victimized boys, their families, her own family, the school. Think of what would be the punishment for a man committing similar crimes. Given all the circumstance, is six years reasonable punishment? I don't think so. Not even close. Bench-Salorio should be looking at double or triple that amount or more.

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1 I have often wondered about the double standard being applied to female sex offenders and male sex offenders. It makes me sick. This lady has major issues and will most likely prey on young boys again. Think back to Mary K. Laturno. Would any person in the world, on the Left or Right, say it was ok for a MAN, who had raped a 14 year old girl, to marry that girl after he did his time in prison? I doubt it. A sex crime is a sex crime. But for some reason the underlying thought is that a woman can not really rape a man/boy. All men are dieing to have sex with women, don't you know? That may be true, but the age of consent laws in this country and the laws against sex crimes should be applied evenly to male and female perpetrators. Again, if this chick had been a man.....he would be locked up for LIFE.

Posted by: WunderKraut at September 29, 2005 08:11 AM (XEnMj)

2 What's the problem? She's a teacher. She was teaching the boys how to have safe sex. When I was 13, I prayed for a 29 year old teacher like that. I would have been a better student. You know, trying to stay in her good graces so I could get more instruction.

Posted by: greyrooster at September 29, 2005 08:53 AM (M7kiy)

3 Good one, Greyrooster. HaHa!

Posted by: jesusland joe at September 29, 2005 10:05 AM (rUyw4)

4 Greyrooster, I am not sure if you are joking or not, but regardless, yes at 13, I would have given my left nut to have had sex with an actual woman! What boy didn't fantasize about hooking up with the new English teacher? While that is true, it does not make it less of a crime. If this had been a male teacher seducing his young female students, he would be crucified in the press and would be shunned by society. We would not be having this conversation about how girls would give anything to have sex with the sophisticated, older teacher. It would not even enter into our heads. All we would think is, "What a sick Bastard." And rightfully so. Why does she essentially get a pass and men who do the same thing don't? Just because us me are horn dogs who would stick it in a knot hole if we had to? That line of argument does not make sense.

Posted by: WunderKraut at September 29, 2005 10:22 AM (XEnMj)

5 Wunderkraut: Because in truth we are horny dogs. By the way. Knot holes hurt.

Posted by: greyrooster at September 29, 2005 08:35 PM (ywZa8)

6 No matter the moral panic, consensual sex between adults and children is simply not wrong; in fact, it is beneficial on a multitude of moral and philosophical levels. Right now the hysteria is convicting innocent adults like Nazi Germany rounded up Jews, and children are being deeply harmed by the very system that is supposed to protect them. ItÂ’s time we start looking rationally at sexuality, not through the lenses of social construction.

Posted by: L.A. at September 30, 2005 02:17 AM (93bjw)

7 Greyrooster is cracking me up! Splinters can be a bitch, especially there, and explaining to the doctor, now that would call for an imagination.

Posted by: jesusland joe at September 30, 2005 04:49 PM (rUyw4)

8 And i,ll bet she belongs to the NEA

Posted by: sandpiper at October 02, 2005 07:06 PM (xt8mX)

9 Those lucky kids!!! I wish I had a horny slut around when I was eleven.... I didn't, so I used to pork "Winky", my stuffed giraffe. I squirted so many loads into it, it was soggy, and weighed around 7 pounds! One day, my mommy found it under my bed and threw Winky away! I cried for three months... until I starteds killing pigeons with my BB gun, and then I would pork them before I threw them in the trash! A pigeon has nice tight pork hole! Try it yourself!!!

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September 26, 2005

Sandra "Beth" Geisel Gets 6 Months

(Albany, New York) Updating a previous report and as anticipated, Christian Brothers Academy teacher, Sandra "Beth" Geisel, accepted a plea deal this morning which gets her six months in jail and ten years probation. She will also have to register as a sex offender and she gets credit for time served since her DWI arrest. By my calculations, that puts her on the street in about four months.

From Capitalnews9.com:

Defense Attorney Donald Kinsella said, "A trial would have been a spectacle for her family. As you can see, you all are invited by the DA's office saying this isn't something you should miss. A trial would have been a total spectacle."
District Attorney David Soares said, "This is a person who is going to be subjected to probation for the next 10 years, will have to register as a sex offender, whose life is totally changed now as a result as her behavior. We held her accountable. This is the best disposition in this case."

It's not clear what happens if she violates her probation which, frankly, I think is likely.

Companion post at Interested-Participant.

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September 14, 2005

Debra Lafave Genitalia Photo Blocked

(Tampa, Florida) Remember Debra Lafave? She's the gorgeous 24-year-old teacher who claims she was insane during mad sex romps with a 14-year-old student. She's scheduled to be tried in December, however, there's a new development in her case.

Apparently, during the investigation of her alleged crimes, the authorities obtained a search warrant to photograph her genitalia to collect evidence corroborating the statements of the 14-year-old boy. The photos are public records and, as such, any citizen can request access. As a result, Lafave's lawyer, John Fitzgibbons, has filed a motion to block public access to the pictures on the basis that they are an invasion of privacy.

From the St. Petersburg Times: more...

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1 And some people don't like the FIA........

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at September 14, 2005 05:29 PM (JQjhA)

2 What is the FIA?

Posted by: George Ramos at September 14, 2005 05:36 PM (hrpbg)

3 Truth is stranger than fiction.

Posted by: jesusland joe at September 14, 2005 05:41 PM (q9AWQ)

4 I wonder if it was shaved to look like an animal or dolphin.. Ya know, like some people cut their hedges. If the kid says he saw a dolphin , and the photos show a dolphin, I vote that sheÂ’s guilty!!

Posted by: Brad at September 14, 2005 05:43 PM (3OPZt)

5 FIA-Freedom of Information Act. I demand to see bush!! It's my right as an American citizen!!!!!!!!!!!!! FASCISTS.

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at September 14, 2005 05:52 PM (JQjhA)

6 ...Judge Michelle Sisco issued a search warrant authorizing investigators to collect evidence that would verify the "victims" account. Victim? Please, may I be a victim of Mr. Lafave? J/K Randy!

Posted by: jesusland joe at September 14, 2005 05:52 PM (q9AWQ)

7 Oh, brother, is this one going to HURT? That would be Ms. Lafave, Randy. Damn preview!

Posted by: jesusland joe at September 14, 2005 05:54 PM (q9AWQ)

8 Dammit. Just... dammit.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at September 14, 2005 07:08 PM (0yYS2)

9 Real blonde?

Posted by: traderrob at September 14, 2005 07:29 PM (3al54)

10 Gawda'mighty I wish I was 16 and just a strappin' schoolboy again, but all my teachers were hags.

Posted by: Impobulus Maximus at September 14, 2005 10:29 PM (0yYS2)

11 Where were these teachers when I needed them.......

Posted by: Lonevoice at September 14, 2005 10:33 PM (6uVdZ)

12 This woman deserves a medal. No, a statue next to Lincoln in Washington. Maybe add it onto Lincoln so it looks like she's giving him a lapdance.

Posted by: OB Kenobi at September 15, 2005 05:21 AM (p8hE4)

13 Where's the smoking gun when you need them? A head shot? We need more!

Posted by: JM at September 15, 2005 07:03 AM (3B0r5)

14 "I demand to see bush!! It's my right as an American citizen!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Oh! Is this the bush Sheehan has been demanding to see? I was confused. I thought she meant President Bush.

Posted by: Oyster at September 15, 2005 08:36 AM (fl6E1)

15 You just KNOW some Farker living down there is on line at public records room the right now.

Posted by: TC@LeatherPenguin at September 15, 2005 11:09 AM (kiH79)

16 Her close-up genitals photos and other four explicit photos are public records, and should be always on the internet for free.

Posted by: debra at September 21, 2005 10:23 AM (xEImE)

17 Her close-up genitals photos and other four explicit photos are public records, and should be always on the internet for free. I heard that Debra LaFave actually wants them on the internet (what a bitch!), but her lawyer wants them to be blocked.

Posted by: debra at September 21, 2005 10:30 AM (xEImE)

18 Jesus, a pussy is a pussy. Whether it's bald, trimmed in a heart, a bouffant, or just plain hairy as a baboon. Now boobies.....that's a different story........

Posted by: Shannon at September 23, 2005 02:11 AM (3uRub)

19 since Debra liked to prey on a young black boy I am looking foward to her residing in a state prison in a wing of big black mamas to prey on her

Posted by: gray at October 04, 2005 12:43 AM (iDs0E)

20 Debra is very beautiful. Owen is so stupid that he gets divorced from Debra. If I were Debra's husband, I would let her fuck any guy that she likes and act in porn movies in order that she can show her fucking talents to the public. I will become aroused at the sight of Debra spreading her legs to get fucked.

Posted by: Charles at October 08, 2005 12:48 AM (67cW7)

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