June 16, 2006
Krauthammer Hammers Gaza Terrorists
Charles Krauthammer
asks, "Who is to blame if Palestinians are setting up rocket launchers to attack Israel -- and placing them 400 yards from a beach crowded with Palestinian families on the Muslim Sabbath?"
This is another example of the Palestinians' classic and cowardly human-shield tactic -- attacking innocent Israeli civilians while hiding behind innocent Palestinian civilians. For Palestinian terrorists -- and the Palestinian governments (both Fatah and Hamas) that allow them to operate unmolested -- it's a win-win: If their rockets aimed into Israeli towns kill innocent Jews, no one abroad notices and it's another success in the terrorist war against Israel. And if Israel's preventive and deterrent attacks on those rocket bases inadvertently kill Palestinian civilians, the iconic "Israeli massacre" picture makes the front page ,of the New York Times, and the Palestinians win the propaganda war.
Being a terrorist who targets Israel seems like an easy job; you are never to blame for anything, you get to play with guns and rockets, and your victims give your government support. The whole "getting blown up by a missile strike" thing is definitely a downside, though...
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June 15, 2006
Suitcases of Cash
What is going on with the Palestinians? First, they lost $450,000 in a hotel room. Then they were caught with $80,000 at a checkpoint. Now they have
carried $22 million into the territories in 2 days in suitcases:
A Hamas government minister returned to the
Gaza Strip on Thursday with $2 million in his luggage for his money-starved government, a day after the foreign minister brought $20 million in cash into the coastal strip.
Security officials said Information Minister Yousef Rizka turned over the money to the Finance Ministry after crossing the border Thursday.
Fearing U.S. anti-terrorism sanctions, international banks have refused to allow Hamas to transfer money electronically to the Palestinian areas. In recent days, Hamas officials have taken matters into their own hands, physically carrying donations in their luggage.
Foreign Minister Mahmoud Zahar arrived with $20 million on Wednesday.
Where are the Ocean's 11 when we need them? The gang from The Italian Job? The Usual Suspects? All busy...anyone have a gun so we can go make some money?
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June 12, 2006
Hamas Shows Incompetence, Ends Ceasefire
Friday, 7 (or 8, depending on the source) Palestinian civilians were killed in an explosion on a Gaza beach. Hamas claims that Israeli artillery shells killed them and used the deaths as an excuse to end the fragile ceasefire with Israel.
Israel is now telling its side of the story:
An Israel Defense Forces intelligence officer has confirmed that the explosion that killed eight Palestinians on Friday, was caused by a stockpile of Hamas explosives.
"Shortly after we stopped defensive firing at Hamas rocket launch pads which were deployed behind Palestinian human shields, members of Hamas scrambled to fire more rockets at our positions," said Col. M. "We have eyes on every meter of Gaza, from the sky, from the ground and from the sea. One of their rocket tripods collapsed inadvertently setting off an explosion of a stockpile of Qassam rockets. The Palestinians killed their own children. And this was not the first time."
Hamas terrorists fired rockets and mortar bombs from a crowded Gaza beach at southern Israel. Some of the rockets fell near the Israel city of Ashkelon. Some 17 rockets were fired between Saturday and Sunday morning. A man at a school in the Israel town of Sderot was wounded, Israel officials said.
Israel Maj.-Gen. Yoav Galant said today that the Israel Defense Forces has additional evidence that it wasn't Israel artillery that hit the beach in Gaza. Galant, who commands Israel's southern command, said Israel stopped firing 15 minutes before the explosion. It's all on secure videotape from both sides of the conflict. Israel Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said he was sorry about the deaths, which included three children.
Hamas knows what happened, they know their own incompetent terrorists killed their own people. And they still use the incident as an excuse to end the ceasefire. Why? Hamas is in a nasty fight with Fatah over control of the PA government, and the best way to maintain support is to find an external enemy to bring the faithful back into the fold. Wag the dog, if you will.
Roll the video, Galant.
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They do it because it works. Once having accused Israel, and having the papers pick it up (and Israel of course, in a knee jerk reaction to the death of any innocent, offers remorse over the loss of life...) they get the best of all worlds. Israel is either guilty (even if it was an accident) or the papers are too fearful of making the same mistake twice (well, they always make this same mistake, just not twice in succession) so the papers, if they care to pretend to be unbiased at all, take a "neutral" stance, repeating the accusation against Israel and then adding something along the lines of "but Israel says..."
SO, Israel retains her guilt, while the Palestinaisn are the victims...
I'm not holding my breath waiting for the world to wake up.
Posted by: Rachel Ann at June 12, 2006 05:06 AM (OGPU0)
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How long did it take to make that bull shit up?
Time for you two to wake up
Posted by: david at June 12, 2006 08:26 AM (SL48Z)
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so where's the IDF video?
Posted by: black Death at June 12, 2006 01:35 PM (/B3gx)
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They are not Palestinians. That is a big fat lie that keeps being written. They are mostly from Jordan, and Egypt. They came to the area to work for Jewish people who were turning the land into something more than dry dirt.
These are the same people who went to war with Israel five times, and lost each time. They are about to go to war again, and this time we helped them get enough area to call it a state.
It is a terrorist state, and they worship Allah. If anyone thinks Allah is the same god the Jews pray to, please search Allah, or moon god. You will get the same result.
ROPMA
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May 23, 2006
Israel Captures Hamas Military Leader
Using an army bulldozer to break down the walls of his hideout, the Israelis captured Ibrahim Hamed, the most-wanted Hamas terrorist leader on the West Bank.
From Haaretz.com:
After an eight-year manhunt, Israeli security forces early Tuesday seized the Ramallah-area commander of Hamas' military wing, Israel's most wanted man in the West Bank.
Sheikh Ibrahim Hamed, 41, has been wanted since 1998 for terror attacks that claimed the lives of 78 of Israeli civilians and soldiers.
Hamed was arrested at a hideout in the al-Balua neighborhood of Ramallah, surrendering to a combined force of Israel Defense Forces Dukefat troops, the Shin Bet security service, and the police anti-terror unit.
Apparently, Hamed decided to surrender, alone and unarmed, when the walls started collapsing. An Israeli military spokesman stated that the capture will significantly impede Hamas' capabilities since Hamed will be hard to replace. He was known to be a creative bomber who allegedly masterminded attacks resulting in the deaths of scores of people.
From the BBC, check out this astonishing statement.
BBC correspondent Caroline Hawley in Jerusalem says it is not clear why the army moved against Hamad.
Excuse me! I'd suggest that the
BBC hire a new correspondent to report from Jerusalem.
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I thought these pali terrorists were ferocious fighters? Hands in the air wearing nothing but underwear and surrendering to Jews - my, my, talk about tarnishing an image. Now why isn't a picture of that being splashed all over the blogsphere? Hey, I'd even pay a couple of bucks to see a picture of that....
Posted by: goesh at May 23, 2006 06:40 AM (1w6Ud)
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"....it is not clear......" What stupendous ignorance.....
Posted by: n.a. palm at May 23, 2006 07:11 AM (jybaQ)
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>>>BBC correspondent Caroline Hawley in Jerusalem says it is not clear why the army moved against Hamad.
Naturally, because since Hamas won the election people like him are no longer "activists" but rather "government officials."
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at May 23, 2006 07:14 AM (8e/V4)
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I like how you can't seem to make any points without being dishonest:
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BBC correspondent Caroline Hawley in Jerusalem says it is not clear why the army moved against Hamad.
Hamas has not carried out any suicide attacks for 15 months and Israeli military operations in the past few months have focused instead on the militant Islamic Jihad group, which has been responsible for most of the recent bombs.
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The entire thought, then, makes perfect sense. The military has been focusing on Islamic Jihad because they've been the biggest threat lately, so it's unclear why the military shifted focus back to him all of a sudden. In other words, did they get some new information that he was about to do something, a tip, or did they simply see an opportunity?
It only implies innocence on the part of the terrorist if you don't quote properly.
If you can't make your point without lying, you don't have one.
Posted by: TxMxP at May 23, 2006 08:37 AM (gOPcw)
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TxMxP: The statement sounded stupid. Adding that Hamas hasn't claimed responsibility for attacks for 15 months and the Israelis have of late been going after other, more recent, terror groups does not make it sound any smarter.
That would be like saying,
Police bulldozed the Zodiac Killer's apartment yesterday and arrested him. It isn't clear why they moved against him. He hasn't committed a murder in years and the police have instead focused on other serial killers since then.
You'll have to do better than that.
Posted by: Oyster at May 23, 2006 09:09 AM (nBOAO)
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TxMxP,
just because Hamas may (or may not) have committed any atrocities LATELY doesn't mean someone (here Sheikh Ibrahim Hamed) who has been on a Most Wanted list simply falls off that most wanted list. So for an MSM to scratch their heads in puzzlement naturally shows they are quite dimwitted or intentionally obtuse about how Israelis view terrorism.
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p.s., add to that Hamas has not dissavowed terrorism or their intentions to destroy Israel and it makes the BBC reporter sound all that more clueless.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at May 23, 2006 09:12 AM (8e/V4)
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Uh, TexMexP, there is no statute of limitations on murder. Just so you know.
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All it says when quoted in context is "Some new development must have triggered this shift in focus, but we don't know what that development was".
It doesn't say anything about him not deserving to be arrested.
It doesn't say anything about some bizarre natural amnesty after so many months.
The only way you can rationally read those things into it is when the first sentence is quoted out of context.
What is your problem with that? Why does it bother you that the BBC doesn't know what the catalyst was for the focus shift?
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>>>"Some new development must have triggered this shift in focus, but we don't know what that development was".
TxMxP,
because there was no "new development" and there was no "shift in focus". What's so hard for you (and the BBC) to understand about that? Same ol terrorist, same ol Hamas. End of story.
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I don't believe that's the case. Israel could have rolled in and taken him anytime they wanted if he's just been sitting there for fifteen months.
The long period of inaction coupled with the sudden shift of focus strongly implies that some catalyst caused the raid.
Regardless, it's irrelevant. The point was that the single-line quote was out of context and the correspondent was in no way implying that she didn't know why he deserved to be arrested.
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TxMxP: It doesn't bother me. I just think it sounded stupid. They simply finally found him. That fact doesn't imply a "shift in focus". Unless of course, that is indeed what the writer is implying.
Posted by: Oyster at May 23, 2006 10:19 AM (nBOAO)
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No, I mean, this is what the entire relevant portion of that article seems to be communicating, to me:
"The military has been focusing on Jihad because they've been doing all the attacks. It's unclear why after 15 months they shifted their focus back to Hamad, but we think there's some sort of catalyst for the event"
The comment that's quoted sort of comes out of nowhere in the article, but that says more to me about poor editing of that particular section than it does anything else. I think it might be a bit clearer what the intent was if they'd placed in the actual quote rather than just saying "she said this".
I don't disgree that the quote is bizarre, but my point was that the blurb clearly misquotes it and creates an image that just isn't there.
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Why do you bother to list a trackback when it results in:
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Posted by: Don Singleton at May 23, 2006 10:30 AM (+Yrlm)
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Then you admit it's a matter of interpretation. If one is expecting this blog to be dishonest or to not be in line with one's thoughts, one will easily find any number of ways to interpret every post the way they want. We already have a few people here who do that regularly. Mike interpreted it as an "astonishing statement" then after a number of back and forth comments you finally admit that you "don't disgree that the quote is bizarre", but you continue to berate anyone else who thinks so too.
Allow me to try and make myself clearer even though this may seem petty:
The following statement,
"...Israeli military operations in the past few months have focused instead..." seems to be saying to me that the author is implying that they can't or aren't multi-tasking and have had no focus on his capture. What I'm saying is that this is assuming too much. If al Qaeda stops attacks for 15 months and we then capture Osama, have we 'changed focus' because other groups have vied for attention? And how would saying that justify a statement made like the stupid one we're arguing about?
Asserting that we should assume what they said really means a particular thing then why can't we assume that Mike didn't mean anything more than it was a stupid statement without qualifying it with other assumptions?
If they had merely said they don't know what led to his capture we could have avoided all this.
Posted by: Oyster at May 23, 2006 11:06 AM (nBOAO)
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My problem is strictly that the individual peice of text quoted is out of context. The entire thought forms the message, but only one small piece of it is conveyed here. Whatever you think the motivation may have been for that piece of text being in the BBC article, it creates the impression that the correspondent is saying "I don't know why they chose to arrest this man", when the entire thought doesn't convey that at all.
Regardless of whether you love or hate the BBC piece, the fact is that here it was quoted out of context.
>>If they had merely said they don't know what led to his capture we could have avoided all this.
I agree, but they didn't, so as far as the article goes the only thing that can be honestly concluded is that it's meaning is unclear due to a poor choice of words.
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"...it creates the impression that the correspondent is saying "I don't know why they chose to arrest this man","
I didn't get that impression. But hey, it seems you did. Whether or not it was intended is another thing. If you keep looking for a snake, you'll find one. I think you're looking for snakes.
Posted by: Oyster at May 23, 2006 11:52 AM (nBOAO)
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Interesting thread and Oyster is exactly right. My point was that the statement is bizarre. As for context, there is none. This comment thread attests to several contextual versions of what is possible. So, in reality, the statement wasn't taken out of context because the context was create-your-own. And, even if you disagree with that, the statement is still astonishing in my opinion.
Personally, I tend to think that TxMxP has a hard spot with me specifically, calling me dishonest and a liar. I have no idea where the ad hominem attack came from. I do know that attacking me won't make the BBC statement any less bizarre.
Posted by: Mike at May 23, 2006 04:47 PM (bRGNw)
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Anyone who hears something different than the texmexicanpee is a liar. This turkey should apply for a job with the Clintons.
Posted by: greyrooster at May 23, 2006 04:49 PM (BEvWK)
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>>Personally, I tend to think that TxMxP has a hard spot with me specifically, calling me dishonest and a liar.
Note in general, only as far as this goes. Beyond this, I don't know anything about you. It could have been an honest mistake.
The point remains: the context changes when you only quote that one little piece. The entire thought was contained in two paragraphs, and you should have quoted the entire thought, especially considering what you did quote was a summary of a statement, not an actual piece of speech.
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Why is it the lefturds are so quick to run their mouths when a terrorist gets killed or captured, but are deafeningly silent when one kills a bunch of innocent people?
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April 21, 2006
Hamas Appointment Reaffirms Terrorist Roots
Hopes held by some that Hamas' new responsibilities as the elected government of the Palestinian Authority would civilize the terrorist organization fade a little more each day.
From Reuters:
GAZA (Reuters) - A militant leader appointed to a senior security position in the Hamas-led Palestinian government said on Friday he would not abandon the fight against Israel which has long sought to kill him.
Jamal Abu Samhadana, high on Israel's most wanted list as leader of the Popular Resistance Committees (PRC), was appointed on Thursday to supervise the Interior Ministry and set up a new police force from militants to crack down on anarchy and chaos.
"Factions and security services should unite in one trench against the daily Israeli aggression against our people," Abu Samhadana told Reuters in an interview.
In case there was any hope that high office and its responsibilities would mellow Samhadana:
"I will continue to hold the rifle and will pull the trigger whenever required to defend my people," he said.
As has become apparent from recent events, "defending" the Palestinian people still means
killing Israelis in falafel houses.
Cross-posted at The Dread Pundit Bluto, Stop the ACLU, and Vince Aut Morire.
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Yes Hamas is screwing up I wonder how the elctorate will vote once they get hungry. But that may be Hamas' goal. Get the aid cut and foster hunger and unrest. Seems like a path to war to me. Like they are saying hick my ass please. With no home of winning coule they really be that silly. Probably.
Posted by: Howie at April 21, 2006 11:19 AM (D3+20)
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Guess who got this terror state next to Israel to exist? That's right, it is the good old USA.
Is it any wonder we have been getting hurricanes out the wazoo? How about back to back 500 year storms, mud slides, range fires, no rain like never before, and the Sun burning 30% greater than ever. That is just this country. Look at the rest of the world.
You say you do not believe in G-d? Fine, keep getting abortions, keep allowing homos to marry, keep having sex with children, worshipping false gods, not believeing in sin, etc...
Sorry folks, I'm just pissed off about that moon god worshipper they caught in Georgia.
Posted by: Leatherneck at April 21, 2006 02:38 PM (D2g/j)
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The Israelis should just exterminate the paleostinians like the vermin they are.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at April 22, 2006 05:12 AM (0yYS2)
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I am a coward from San Diego. I perform fellatio on random men to earn pocket money. My mother died last year. She got AIDS from being a crack whore. I have no idea who my father was.
Posted by: San Diego Hacker at April 22, 2006 11:04 AM (ahHK1)
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So you voted for Kerry, eh Hacker?
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April 17, 2006
Hamas Officially Endorses Suicide Attack
A Palestinian suicide bomber murdered 8 people outside a falafel house in Tel Aviv today, the carnage limited because a security guard prevented the teenager from entering the restaurant.
From the New York Times:
A Hamas spokesman, Sami Abu Zuhri called the attack "a natural result of the continued Israeli crimes against our people," adding that Palestinians were "in a state of self-defense and they have every right to use all means to defend themselves," according to Reuters.
So here we have the raionale used by brave jihadi babyhunters everywhere: self-defense - a view endorsed by a majority of the Palestinian people.
All those Jews armed with falafels; who knows what they might be capable of?
Also posted at The Dread Pundit Bluto and Vince Aut Morire.
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Found this article from the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs - "Understanding the Direction of the New Hamas Government: Between Tactical Pragmatism and Al-Qaeda Jihadism"
This article should tell us what we expect to see from this new Hamas “government”...
“Hamas’ tactical agreement to play by the democratic rules was a Trojan horse. It exploited the fragmentation of Fatah and the weakness of the Palestinian Authority to achieve political dominance as a first stage toward establishing Islamic rule that will implement Sharia law and lead, in fact, to the eradication of democracy.”
“Hamas Interior Minister Said Sayyam, who is responsible for the Palestinian security forces, publicly committed himself on March 24, 2006, not to order arrests of operatives who carry out terror attacks…It should come as no surprise that the Palestinian Authority under Hamas rule is becoming a safe haven for Islamic terror organizations…”
If you want to see the rest of this article.. http://www.jcp a.org/brief/brief005-22.htm
Posted by: JerusalmBlogger at April 17, 2006 10:15 AM (4sL4v)
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A government endorses an attack by its citizens against the citizens of another country. That sounds like a declaration of war to me..........or rather, yet ANOTHER declaration of war.
Posted by: Graeme at April 17, 2006 10:20 AM (RJuG/)
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A government endorses an attack by it citizens against the citizens of another country. That sounds like a declaration of war to me........or rather, yet ANOTHER declaration of war.
Posted by: Graeme at April 17, 2006 10:24 AM (RJuG/)
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I like Hamas because it doesn't pussyfoot around like Fatah did. Hamas is the kind of enemy the IDF can do real business with.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at April 17, 2006 10:28 AM (8e/V4)
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They are sooooo bombed. Hamas is just asking for it on the chin.
Posted by: Ernie Oporto at April 17, 2006 10:30 AM (/lpvu)
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If there were no more palestinians then there would be no more problem...
Think about it.
Posted by: Victory for the USA at April 17, 2006 10:31 AM (y+196)
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"A Palestinian suicide bomber murdered 8 people outside a falafel house in Tel Aviv today..."
I'm waiting for the driveby media to get 6 or 7 Israeli generals together to start bashing the Israeli political leadership...
after all, Israel must be a poorly planned 'occupation'...because they haven't been able to ensure "the peace" and still suffer from suicide bombers. So by the logic of leftists and the MSM, the existance of Israel must be a failure also..right?
Posted by: mrclark at April 17, 2006 12:00 PM (S76hi)
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The Israelis need to quit screwing around and exterminate the paleostinian animals.
Posted by: Improbulus maximus at April 17, 2006 12:35 PM (0yYS2)
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I.M., the term animals is to good for them. I think something like demons, cancer, or worshippers of Satan. Something like that.
Animals do not throw their young in the fire, or ask them to blow themselves up for their false god. Perhaps, it is time for Israel to wipe them off the face of the earth. I can not stand those sick Hamas eaters of swine, and dog.
Posted by: Leatherneck at April 17, 2006 06:06 PM (D2g/j)
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Hey Victory for the USA--
Read your history books. It was the Zionist movement during WW1 that decided to move into Israel and claim it form themselves, ousting the Palestinians who lived there for centuries.
The real answer is maybe people shouldn't evict others from their ancient homelands. . . . . . tends to piss people off
And no, I do not support Hamas.
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April 10, 2006
UN Agency Handling Palestinian Aid Linked to Terrorism
On Saturday, I
wrote that the United States and the European Union are cutting off funding to the Palestinian Authority now that Hamas has taken control. Apparently, the announced aid cuts are merely a shellgame.
On April 7, the Washington Post reported that US aid to Palestinians is being redirected through the U.N. Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA). As the Wall Street Journal Opinion Journal discovered three years ago, the UNRWA has been infiltrated by terrorist sympathizers, and the "refugee" camps administered by UNRWA are, in reality, terrorist training camps (via IRIS Blog).
Thanks to Tel-Chai Nation who has more.
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April 07, 2006
US, EU Shut Off Money Tap to Palestinian Authority
As I pointed out
here after the Hamas election win, it is
illegal for the US to give aid to a designated Foreign Terrorist Organization.
From Reuters:
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States and the European Commission suspended aid to the new Hamas-led Palestinian government on Friday, pushing the Palestinian Authority closer to financial collapse.
The State Department, making its announcement, said it would boost humanitarian aid to the Palestinians through U.N. agencies to avoid widespread distress in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, but the United States would not fund an organization committed to the destruction of Israel.
But surely, their Muslim brothers will rush in to fill the gap?
Hamas has appealed to Arab states and Iran to fill the shortfall, but has not even been able to find a bank willing to handle its finances.
Maybe because its chief (only) export is terrorism.
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Well it's about damn time. Now to start killing them.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at April 08, 2006 05:57 AM (0yYS2)
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I've got some money for those heathens.........it's wrapped around a 20 kiloton nuclear warhead.
Posted by: n.a. palm at April 08, 2006 08:26 AM (eXs2X)
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Much of that money will instead go to U.N. relief programs in the palestinian territories...which means the actual palestinians will see little of it themselves.
Hamas was elected by an overwhelming majority of the paleostinian people, proving that indeed the paleostinians never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at April 08, 2006 08:41 AM (8e/V4)
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Good, though it took them long enough.
OT: looks like
aarons.cc got hacked
Posted by: RC at April 08, 2006 08:48 AM (PgcbG)
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Screw the paleostinians. The only help they need is in the form of a nuclear missile to send them straight to hell. They are verminous animals and should be exterminated.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at April 08, 2006 09:25 AM (0yYS2)
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Atheists are America's least trusted group, according to a national survey conducted by university sociology researchers. Based on a telephone survey of more than 2,000 households and in-depth interviews with more than 140 people, researchers found that Americans rate atheists below Muslims, recent immigrants, homosexuals and other groups as "sharing their vision of American society." Americans are also least willing to let their children marry athEISTS ..... The best way to understand the nature of atheism is to understand its author. Satan is its author.
It’s important to remain conscious of the fact that Satan had his origin in heaven, and is thoroughly familiar with the fact of the existence of God, heaven, the angels, hell and etc. Thus despite what you have been previously deceptively taught and despite the deceptive dictionary’s meaning of atheism, atheism is properly defined as a denial of the existence of God in the midst of full knowledge that the true God does indeed exist. Atheism knows God exists; it is quite familiar with that fact, but it says “under no circumstance or situation will I admit to God’s existence.”
Atheism clearly perceives the fingerprints of God on all of creation, but refuses to admit He is the Creator. Atheism perceives the divine authorship of the TEN COMMANDMENTS, but refuses to admit that God is their Author. Atheism perceives the decorousness and perfection of the TEN COMMANDMENTS, but refuses to admit they are superior to all other laws. Atheism clearly perceives the divinity of the Lord Jesus Christ, but refuses to admit His divinity. If an atheist could see the wounds in the body of Christ and actually feel them with his hands, he would deny that the wounds are there. Atheism is deliberate effort to never admit the existence of God.
Atheism is the ultimate of Satanism. Ask Satan does God exist and he will deny it. Ask him does Satan exist and he will deny his own existence even while in your presence. Atheism holds the Bible in one hand, but deny its existence by denying its truth with the other.
Posted by: The Dutch Guy at April 08, 2006 10:29 AM (zqsRN)
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Maybe it's just me, but why is the US sending money to the PA?? Is there really NOTHING else for us to spend our tax dollars on? I never have understood this. Why would the US support in any way an entity that appears to be the mortal enemy of Israel? What did I miss?
Posted by: Richard at April 08, 2006 02:10 PM (7KF8r)
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you missed your brains thats all!
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Jews Avoid Paying Taxes
A report, "House Agrees to Extend Holocaust Tax Break" (Associated Press, June 5, 2002), states that a bill proposing yet another tax break for Jews passed the house by a vote of 392 to 1.
The following comes directly from the Internal Revenue Service web page, www.irs.gov, and quite frankly, it speaks for itself.
"Any restitution payments made to holocaust victims and their heirs are excluded from gross income. Therefore, taxpayers should not include these payments as income when filing Federal tax returns.
"A victim of the holocaust is anyone who was persecuted on the basis of race, religion, physical or mental disability or sexual orientation by Nazi Germany, any other Axis regime or any other Nazi-controlled or Nazi-allied country."
Did you hear that, America? More special privileges for Jews and homosexuals. Don't you just have to ask yourself the question - Why should Christ-hating Jews get special tax privileges when white Christian Americans don't? In the near future, the Jews will give themselves more special privileges to include special tax exemption and "restitution payments" if they have ever been "persecuted" by any Christian Church. Wouldn't it be great for the Jews to get several billion dollars a year from the Southern Baptists? Let's not forget the Catholics and those mean old Mormons.
You better stand up now, decent white man and woman.
Posted by: The Dutch Guy at April 08, 2006 02:28 PM (zqsRN)
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U.S. Aid to Israel: What U.S. Taxpayer Should Know
This morning as I was walking down Shuhada Street in Hebron, I saw graffiti marking the newly painted storefronts and awnings. Although three months past schedule and 100 percent over budget, the renovation of Shuhada Street was finally completed this week. The project manager said the reason for the delay and cost overruns was the sabotage of the project by the Israeli settlers of the Beit Hadassah settlement complex in Hebron. They broke the street lights, stoned project workers, shot out the windows of bulldozers and other heavy equipment with pellet guns, broke paving stones before they were laid and now have defaced again the homes and shops of Palestinians with graffiti. The settlers did not want Shuhada St. opened to Palestinian traffic as was agreed to under Oslo 2. This renovation project is paid for by USAID funds and it makes me angry that my tax dollars have paid for improvements that have been destroyed by the settlers.
Most Americans are not aware how much of their tax revenue our government sends to Israel. For the fiscal year ending in September 30, 1997, the U.S. has given Israel $6.72 billion: $6.194 billion falls under Israel's foreign aid allotment and $526 million comes from agencies such as the Department of Commerce, the U.S. Information Agency and the Pentagon. The $6.72 billion figure does not include loan guarantees and annual compound interest totalling $3.122 billion the U.S. pays on money borrowed to give to Israel. It does not include the cost to U.S. taxpayers of IRS tax exemptions that donors can claim when they donate money to Israeli charities. (Donors claim approximately $1 billion in Federal tax deductions annually. This ultimately costs other U.S. tax payers $280 million to $390 million.)
When grant, loans, interest and tax deductions are added together for the fiscal year ending in September 30, 1997, our special relationship with Israel cost U.S. taxpayers over $10 billion.
Since 1949 the U.S. has given Israel a total of $83.205 billion. The interest costs borne by U.S. tax payers on behalf of Israel are $49.937 billion, thus making the total amount of aid given to Israel since 1949 $133.132 billion. This may mean that U.S. government has given more federal aid to the average Israeli citizen in a given year than it has given to the average American citizen.
I am angry when I see Israeli settlers from Hebron destroy improvements made to Shuhada Street with my tax money. Also, it angers me that my government is giving over $10 billion to a country that is more prosperous than most of the other countries in the world and uses much of its money for strengthening its military and the oppression of the Palestinian people.
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NOTE TO THE DUTCH GUY:
You may have noticed that I changed the "posted by" on all your posts to the same name. That's because I don't allow sock puppets or posers on my threads. If you want to play that way, go somewhere else.
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at April 08, 2006 03:07 PM (RHG+K)
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at April 08, 2006 03:40 PM (0yYS2)
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Wow, two genocidal maniacs in one post--Our neonazi dutch guy, and the guy who thinks ALL Palestinians should be annihilated like vermin. Even the toddlers and babies, my little Hitler-in-training? What a gem you are, IM, a sparkling example of humanity. You and Dutch guy should set up a competition to see who can eliminate more of the groups you hate.
I'm glad we aren't funding Hamas, as they are killers without remorse. But I do have a serious question. Now that they are in government, are they terrorists? Every definition of terrorism that the US uses that I've seen has "non-state" actor in it. This is how things like mining Nicaraguan civilian harbors don't count as terrorism. They can be state sponsors of terrorism, for sure. But if a government commits an act of violence against civilians of another country...that's war, not terrorism. Right?
Of course, we could avoid this for some time by saying that there is no Palestinian state, just an embryonic authority.
And to answer the question--we have been funding the PA since its formation, in the hopes (perhaps vain ones) that it would contribute to peace emerging. We spend upwards of 3 billion a year for aid to Israel, about 2 billion and change to Egypt, and a nice chunk (used to be a billion, but it is down now) to Jordan, along with about 500k (?) to the PA in the hope that if we pay enough, the four of them can be bribed not to kill each other. If, someday, peace comes, think of the cost savings! But more seriously, the poverty under the PA is unbelievable, and without foreign aid, there would be a vast humanitarian crisis. A Somalia, next to a strategic ally.
Posted by: jd at April 08, 2006 07:48 PM (uT71O)
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Yesterday, it was reported, "US freezes aid to Palestinian government."
If only, look closely at the statement from the State Department - "while increasing humanitarian aid to the Palestinians through U.N. agencies."
Thursday, Abdul had to worry about beans OR bullets. Thanks to those compassionate conservatives, now he only has to worry about bullets. Sweet.
How clever was this of Dr. Rice, and on a Friday afternoon. Not just another pretty face.
Posted by: allen at April 08, 2006 10:58 PM (n8vUh)
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JD, you're either with civilization or with the islam, and all mulsims are enemies of civilizations. We must exterminate them or they will destroy us.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at April 09, 2006 07:08 AM (0yYS2)
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Maybe it's just me, but why is the US sending money to the PA??
Because we're sappy dumbasses.
People need to understand the consequences of their actions. The Palestinians are about to get a dose of hard financial reality.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 09, 2006 08:33 AM (l6Jdw)
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Uh, IM--you do realize that the vast majority of Kurds are Muslims? The people you are defending on the other thread are the ones you want to genocidally eliminate here.
I'm not one of those liberals that looks on with happy smiles at Islam, and imagines that there are not huge problems with even moderate Islamists. At the same time, it is worth noting that prior to the Renaissance, it was a better deal to be a Jew in most Islamic cities than it was to be a Jew in the West. We underwent a historic shift in our views of the intersection between temporal and religious authorities, our views on the rights of individuals. The Islamic world is in desperate need for such a reformation. What is needed is not a war on Islam, a war of extermination like you propose. What is needed is a war within Islam, a war sometimes fought with bullets and bombs, and sometimes fought with words and ideas. In that war, given our current image, we will sometimes hurt the side we want to win by allying too closely with it. But with deft actions, we can assist Islam to come into the 21st century.
Are you really serious that all Muslims must be killed? I'd like to think you are just being bombastic and extreme for effect.
Posted by: jd at April 09, 2006 08:42 AM (uT71O)
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How are the Kurds our unconditional allies that we should trust them? They are allies of convenience, nothing more. As long as one muslim lives, civilization is threatened.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at April 09, 2006 09:47 AM (0yYS2)
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I'll take that as a yes to the question of whether you support genocide against the Muslims. I can't tell you how sick I think that idea is. Islamic civilization has produced many things of beauty and utility. Read the Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam sometime. Many works of Islamic literature have inspired writers in the west and elsewhere. Islamic jurisprudence was influential on many Talmudic scholars when Islam was far more open to Jewish discourse than anywhere in the West. Islam for centuries best-preserved the learnings of the greeks. And there is great humanity in Islam, amid the activities you and I both abhor. Read Bernard Lewis for a neo-con account of the good, great, and awful in Islam. There have been architectural and scientific contributions as well.
But more importantly, even without all those contributions, advocating genocide is morally repugnant. I cannot think of a worse thing to advocate. It is Hitlerian in its moral outlook. You are the mirror image of bin Laden, although even he does not go as far as you. He has not called for the killing of Christians and Jews all over the world. That sick bastard wants to kill us until he can set up his caliphate, but he doesn't want to kill us in New Jersey after that happens. You, apparently, want to kill all Muslims, everywhere. That makes you worse than bin Laden...congratulations!
Posted by: jd at April 09, 2006 10:16 AM (uT71O)
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For example: Muslims saved my ex-girlfriend's family in 1991. They were going to be killed by Saddam, trapped in the invasion of Kuwait. They disguised themselves, and fled north. Only with the assistance of Kurds did they make it Turkey. The Kurds refused payment, saying it was a religious obligation to aid the persecuted. Islam is not the monster you make it out to be. It is a religion in need of a reformation, not in need of genocidal eradication.
Posted by: jd at April 09, 2006 10:19 AM (uT71O)
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I agree with jd on the point of a Muslim Reformation being preferable to a war of extermination against Islam.
And the way to bring about that Reformation is...exactly what we have been doing; promoting liberal (in the classical sense) democracy in the Middle East so that Fundamentalist regimes suffer by comparison.
More has been accomplished in the past four years of active engagement than in the past forty of misguided
laissez-faire and realpolitik non-action.
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at April 09, 2006 10:59 AM (RHG+K)
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"Now that they are in government, are they terrorists? Every definition of terrorism that the US uses that I've seen has "non-state" actor in it." Yes, they're still terrorists. Palestine is not a state.
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March 09, 2006
On Hamas as OK, somewhat equivalent to Israel
Hello hello again, readers. I have been AWOL as of late, but I wanted to share an interesting hobby that I have acquired before I return into my wine-induced slumber.
Reading college newspapers, especially the editorials, always provides a chuckle or two. I think it's something about the mix of idealism of change yet the laziness to enact change that just nails the irony bone in the right spot. Of course, there are those creative editorials that attempt to advance typical left-wing talking points; I guess there is something to be said for truly mimicking the national media, just it seems too easy to do on a college campus as those places generally are leftist echo chambers.
That said, I found an editorial today that even took the wind out of my sails. The race between "sad" and "mind-bendingly funny" is pretty close, so I leave it to others to judge.
The jist is that Hamas' rise to power isn't really so bad. So what? We have heard that a thousand times before in stories of Hamas' "pragmatism". No, what makes this great (and something that could only be pulled off in print on a college campus) is the stated position that Hamas and Israel are in fact very similar. The editorial, from the student newspaper of George Washington University, tries to toe a fine line -- both validate Hamas through comparisons with Israel, yet still twist facts to demonstrate Israel's villiany. Logically, that makes little sense, but don't worry. The author is a senior, majoring in Middle East studies, so I sure he just knows a more subtle version of the truth than we do.
I provide some of my point-by-point opinions behind the fold, but I leave you with a taste of what the editorial has in store...
While it refuses to recognize the state of Israel, there is a historical point worth noting: at the initiation of the Oslo process in 1993, Israel had not recognized the Palestinians right to a state. Even informal recognition did not come until Ehud Barak was elected prime minister several years later. A formal public statement acknowledging the right of Palestinians to a state was not made until Ariel Sharon became prime minister. In spite of this lack of recognition, the Palestinians pursued negotiations with the Israelis, hoping that a viable state would come in the final agreement. The precedent exists for engaging in negotiations without recognition at the outset.
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As I said to Background Noise on another thread, you have to look at the "product" of the organization, not their PR.
Hamas' "product" is dead Jewish babies. I don't really give two shits in a flying rat's ass about the healthcare PR they push.
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at March 09, 2006 11:40 AM (RHG+K)
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While it's true, attacks did diminish in 2005, it has also diminished each year since a peak in 2002 of 452 fatalities caused by Palestinian terrorists in general. What proof is there that this is due to Hamas' restraint in particular? None. Looks more like a trend than anything to me. I'd venture to guess the decline in '05 has as much to do with the demise of Arafat and those too busy jostling for position afterward to coordinate attacks and other factors as in previous years.
Palestinian terror attack fatalities:
2000 - 47
2001 - 206
2002 - 452
2003 - 214
2004 - 117
2005 - 45
As you can see, the total number of Israeli deaths by Palestinian terrorists has decreased by about half each year from '02 - '05
In 2002 Hamas, in particular, claimed responsibility for 144 of those deaths. In '03 they claimed 77 and in 04 they claimed a total of 30. I can't find much data for 05 but it's, at the very least, 6. The death rate was cut by half for them as well each year since 2002. None of these include the many failed attacks.
That's 257 deaths total and at least 895 injured.
So a claim that the reduction in terror related deaths is due to restraint initiated by Hamas in February of last year is not supported by the facts. This "self-imposed ceasefire" came only after a double suicide attack which killed 6 and wounded 5 in Jan 05 and then there was at least one other, also Hamas related, in August which seriously injured two, but only because the bombers were stopped from entering a mall where the damage and death count could have been much bigger.
And that's just fisking one paragraph. This guy is talking out of his nether regions.
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February 15, 2006
On Heroism True
Sometimes, maybe once in a generation, a true hero stands up. An epic figure who does not care what others say or what others may think. These giants of humanity are not afraid to be alone and hold their ground in the face of overwhelming odds. We see these people and think they are John the Baptist reborn, a lone voice in the wilderness.
Today, ladies and gentlemen, we have seen one of these heroes. I present to you, the Honorable Representative of the 1st District in Hawai'i, Neil Abercrombie.
When presented the chance today to vote on the bill "expressing the sense of Congress that no United States assistance should be provided directly to the Palestinian Authority if any representative political party holding a majority of parliamentary seats within the Palestinian Authority maintains a position calling for the destruction of Israel," Representative Abercrombie had the courage to oppose the votes of Reps. Jackson (D-IL), Jackson-Lee (D-TX), Conyers (D-MI), and Minority Leader Pelosi (D-CA). He also managed to oppose the vote of Majority Leader Boehner (R-OH) at the same time.
Represenative Abercrombie was the lone 'Nay' vote.
For some reason, I am reminded of an old Monty Python sketch on the value of not being seen. Really, if you feel this way, maybe it would have been best for you to not stand up. Though it helps me weed out the mega-loons from the regular nuts.
Take some time to let Rep. Abercrombie know how you feel here.
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Well it doesn't surprise me it came from a Democrat. I am surprised those Dems you mentioned voted for it
Posted by: Javapuke at February 15, 2006 09:07 PM (enHFQ)
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Where's his boyfriend Fitch?
Posted by: Leopold Stotch at February 15, 2006 09:57 PM (2oQaU)
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Did anyone bother to click on his "Iraq watch" button ? He also voted yes on one of the bills with the strongest language to bring the troops home from Iraq.
Posted by: john ryan at February 15, 2006 09:57 PM (TcoRJ)
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You are the only one to publish his name. The press is silent on who voted against this. Talk about secrecy!
Posted by: Fred Fry at February 15, 2006 10:31 PM (HJnrm)
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I'm not American. I'm an Aussie, so I don't think I should criticise how your poli's vote. I'm glad Australia stuck with the US in Iraq.
Posted by: jonny at February 15, 2006 11:32 PM (nytWC)
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No one could ever be further out there than Neil ( pronounced Kneel ).
He's lampooned in the Movie classic "Joe vs The Volcano". The scene with the yellow taxi: it's his personal campaign car, unique in all Hawaii.
All of the jibes about a counter-dependent personality are spot of for Neil.
He has been a terrible child all his 'adult' life.
Posted by: blert at February 16, 2006 02:22 AM (kxhLo)
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Maybe he was just intellectually incapable of understanding what the vote was about?
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"We are a blood-drinking people"
Palestine Media Watch
reports on a video added to a Hamas website this week, that features the parting messages of two suicide bombers:
Each terrorist had a separate message for Jews. This first said,
"My message to the loathed Jews is that there is no god but Allah, we will chase you everywhere! We are a nation that drinks blood, and we know that there is no blood better than the blood of Jews. We will not leave you alone until we have quenched our thirst with your blood, and our children's thirst with your blood. We will not leave until you leave the Muslim countries."
The second terrorist said the following:
"In the name of Allah, we will destroy you, blow you up, take revenge against you, [and] purify the land of you, pigs that have defiled our country... This operation is revenge against the sons of monkeys and pigs."
These are the folks with whom Israel is being urged to seek accommodation.
Also posted at The Dread Pundit Bluto and Vince Aut Morire.
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Whoever writes their material has spend far too much time watching old sword & sorcery movies!
Posted by: hondo at February 15, 2006 01:31 AM (fyKFC)
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Ah, aren't they banned from fighting with 'the people of the book' by their prophet.
and 'the people of the book' are jews, christians, and any cult that uses the bible in any of its shapes.
Posted by: anon at February 15, 2006 03:49 AM (XhBbd)
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That statement is just flat out lame. When it comes to war talk, the West has Patton and Churchill quotes. They have snicker-inducing prose like the example above. Yet one more thing we do so much better.
Posted by: Graeme at February 15, 2006 04:18 AM (X4Wbb)
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So true Graeme. But Churchill and Patton were not Abdid or Mamoud...
- Max
Posted by: Max at February 15, 2006 07:23 AM (+kFf8)
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I think the second guy forgot something: "In the name of Allah, THE COMPASSIONATE AND MERCIFUL, we will destroy you, blow you up, take revenge against you..."
You almost expect him to start talking about the holy hand grenade.
Posted by: John at February 15, 2006 07:37 AM (wg4FW)
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And how many people from the ME have told us over the past few days how much they respect the religion of the Christians and Jews, and that is why we must respect theirs?
More than a few, I suppose. That would make them all liars.
Posted by: jesusland joe at February 15, 2006 10:23 AM (rUyw4)
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If they consider the JOOOOOOOOOOS as pigs, why in the name of Allah would they drink their blood?
Couldn't they just take a bottle of it, each take a sip, pass it along and then burst into flames or something?
So much more efficient that way don't ya think?
Posted by: memphis761 at February 15, 2006 10:33 AM (D3+20)
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Unfortunately, it's not just fevered rhetoric. I once saw photos of an Palestinian kneeling down to joyfully lap the blood of a Jew who they had just murdered.
So why not bury these animals with a stake through the heart?
Posted by: pst314 at February 15, 2006 01:09 PM (OA547)
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Trying to understand muzzie logic:
If we are what we eat, and the muzzies tell us that Jews are pigs, then are they not in fact damning themselves to hell for eating a pig?
Inquiring minds want to know.
/Pig piss be upon allah and his pervert "prophet".
Posted by: Princess Kimberley at February 15, 2006 01:41 PM (J2xFI)
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What is with all this hostility and hatred directed at pigs! What's wrong with pigs? I love bacon, sausage, pork chops ..... RIBS! OH GOD! WHAT A JOY!
I've even had friends who've had pigs as pets - and swear by them!
I loved Porky Pig as a kid - even my grandkids do to this day!
What's with all this pig shit? What did a pig ever do to Mo & his boys to deserve all this animosity?
Now I once got into a fight with a 400lb boar (busted a Philly Rod over it's head - for all you engineers out there) - but I didn't take it personal and blame all pigs! since it was a German boar, I kinda figure it was a "German" thing.
We got several pigs at the local zoo - in the petting section no less! Kids love'em!
So - muslims - listen up - what is your problem with pigs! I want to know!
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Posted by: hondo at February 15, 2006 04:40 PM (fyKFC)
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What do you get when you cross a pig with a Muslim.
Nothing. There are some things a pig won't do.
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February 06, 2006
$700 Million Missing From Palestinian Accounts
Now, here's a situation where money turns up missing in a kleptocracy. Not unusual. In all candor, I would have been falling-down astonished if the books had even come close to balancing with all funds accounted for.
From ArabNews.com:
At least $700 million of funds from the Palestinian Authority's coffers have been misused or stolen by officials over the past few years. Citing an internal investigation, Palestinian Attorney-General Ahmed Al-Moghani told reporters yesterday that 50 cases of "financial and administrative corruption" had been discovered and 25 officials arrested so far.
He said 10 officials had fled abroad but that the Palestinian Authority was seeking their extradition.
"The amount of money that was squandered and stolen is more than $700 million," Moghani said. "Some of these millions were transferred into personal accounts here and abroad."
Hamas spokesman Mushir Al-Masri said it will be a top priority for the new government to go after the corrupt officials who stole the money and bring them to justice. Good luck with getting the money back.
I expect Hamas will begin complaining and whining about the sorry state of finances, blaming it all on the corrupt previous administration. Then, fresh corrupt officials will go to work in the Hamas government and it will be business as usual.
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Uh, Mike, what is really happening here is that the PA is building a case for foreign aid. With Hamas coming into power, the PA has decided to help Hamas obtain more funding from the West by pointing out the corruption of the PA. Hell, we all knew they were corrupt, so why was money sent to these people to begin with.
Whether Hamas is corrupt of not doesn't matter, because any aid sent to them will either be used to purchase arms or to free up other funds for the purchase of arms. They should receive nothing from the West, not one red cent!
Posted by: jesusland joe at February 06, 2006 08:40 AM (rUyw4)
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Hamas is much more interested in buying weapons to use against Israel than stealing. Remember, Hamas consists of religious zealots.
Posted by: MCPO Airdale at February 06, 2006 09:11 AM (WOQ34)
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joe - I agree with you. Hamas will whine and whine for millions more dollars and most of it will disappear. Just like it did before.
Chief - I agree with you except I think plenty of cash will be diverted into the foreign bank accounts of the money handlers. Sure, they'll buy weapons but they'll skim some for themselves.
Posted by: Mike at February 06, 2006 10:19 AM (oHj+z)
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No, I don't think they will be nearly as venal. Hamas is actually fairly honorable in regards to corruption.
Terrorists, yes, but relatively honest terrorists.
Posted by: TallDave at February 06, 2006 10:36 AM (lZMuK)
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TallDave,
Honest terrorists? I can see it now.
"I am Abdullah, and I want kaffir money to buy rockets to kill the Zionists. I will burn and kill if you don't hand it over. Is that clear to you Western dogs?"
Honest terrorists. You bet. And we don't need to send them one damn thing.
Posted by: jesusland joe at February 06, 2006 10:44 AM (rUyw4)
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Hitler was pretty damn honest. He put it all in a friggin book called Mein Kampf for crying out loud. The book is still wildly popular with Arabs by the way.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at February 06, 2006 10:58 AM (8e/V4)
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I'll give 'em one thing, they don't waste time on subtlety.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at February 06, 2006 01:44 PM (0yYS2)
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They'll be "transparent" with any funds they get overtly from the EU and a few others as promised. If they get any at all. But what they get from Iran and Syria and elsewhere will create fungible assets, and what is acquired under the table - will be spent under the table.
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Exactly, Oyster, they will use money from the West for day-to-day activities, which will free up other funds to buy weapons.
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February 02, 2006
Too Stupid To Draw Their Own Cartoons, I Guess
How apropos.
GAZA CITY — Armed militants angered by a cartoon drawing of the Prophet Muhammad published in European media surrounded EU offices in Gaza on Thursday and threatened to kidnap foreigners as outrage over the caricatures spread across the Islamic world.
Like they really, really need an excuse to kidnap foreigners.
These guys, they're ready for anything. Look how they dress up to post leaflets at the EU office in Gaza. Maybe they're afraid a cow might be catapulted out of the building onto them, and they armed themselves appropriately.
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Foreigners in Gaza are also virtually all sympathic to their "cause". Should prove interesting.
Posted by: hondo at February 02, 2006 11:05 AM (3aakz)
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I donÂ’t know Rusty, are you sure you have this right?
Those look like Catholics at the doors of the studio demonstrating against the release of the Da Vinchi Code movie staring that piece of shit Tom Hanks.
I get my wires crossed sometimes too. ItÂ’s just so hard to tell them apart since there is absolutely no difference between those right wing Christian fanatics and the oppressed and misunderstood Islamic fundamentalists. Both will kill you over what they perceive as the slightest insult to their faith.
Yep, IÂ’m sure those are Catholics.
Posted by: Brad at February 02, 2006 11:06 AM (BJYNn)
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I'd like to see this cartoon...
if you have it please send it to my email or post it on your blog :]
Posted by: Billy Faeth at February 02, 2006 11:06 AM (Lc35u)
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Let me repeat again for anyone, like the lady who read my comments and emailed me: Muslims are scum and should be exterminated like the vermin they are.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at February 02, 2006 11:10 AM (0yYS2)
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http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/698
NEVERMIND I found them all there half way down the article. 12 of them
Thanks anyways
Posted by: Billy Faeth at February 02, 2006 11:21 AM (Lc35u)
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Brad,
I think the give away are the AK-47's but then again the IRA used them as well, aren't they Catholic?
Hmm....
Oh wait, it's the head scarves. Got to be the head scarves.
Yeah, just the other day I told an off color joke about a priest, a rabbi and a Baptist minister. Unbeknownst to me, there were several Baptists in the group. They threatened to kill me and rape my wife and daughters.
Posted by: WunderKraut at February 02, 2006 01:37 PM (3dJYw)
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Mohammed is in hell right now cooling off satans hot member.
Posted by: Andre at February 02, 2006 02:47 PM (bQ3vG)
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Kraut,
Your little attempt at humor would get you beheaded at my Parish.
Posted by: Brad at February 02, 2006 03:27 PM (3OPZt)
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Brad,
No, no. The priest came out good in the joke.
Now the Baptist.....
Posted by: WunderKraut at February 02, 2006 03:38 PM (3dJYw)
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>>>Foreigners in Gaza are also virtually all sympathic to their "cause". Should prove interesting.
It'll be interesting to watch the Libtards defending the slamotards even as their heads are getting sawed off.
Liberalism is a mental disorder.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at February 02, 2006 03:45 PM (8e/V4)
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The boys posting the note have their faces covered. Now how is the great prophet going to know who the little punks are when they get in line for the 72 raisins?
Posted by: jesusland joe at February 02, 2006 03:50 PM (rUyw4)
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C'mon guys, don't you see? It's Luther nailing his theses to the Wittenburg door.
Man, now I know why Palis are the favorite pet cause of Berkeley-ites; they're intellectual peers.
Posted by: Gordon at February 02, 2006 04:54 PM (i0N3d)
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Ok, ok, sarcasm off.
Nice talking to everyone, but IÂ’ve got to run. The wife and I are actually on vacation and she wants me to get off this computer. We have been enjoying the sights in the beautiful city of Riyadh. Saudi Arabia is such a beautiful country and we have plenty more to see.
I'm a little concerned. I have not missed mass in a while and so far, have been unable to locate a Catholic church. That reminds me of a funny little story:
I asked the concierge at the hotel where the closest parish was and I thought he replied:
“I will feed your testicles to my pig and rape your wife with my sandy broomstick”. Man, it’s amazing how screwed up a translation can get with one of those Arabic-Infidel dictionaries they give you at the hotel. Oh well, I'm sure I'll stumble across one by Saturday evening.
WeÂ’re both looking forward to a good meal this evening followed by a movie. That new western is playing here and I'm told it's very good. Heck, 8 Oscar nominations it should be huh?
Hope everything is going well in the States.
Brad
Posted by: Brad at February 02, 2006 05:05 PM (3OPZt)
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On vacation in Saudi Arabia????? Please clarify.
Posted by: jesusland joe at February 02, 2006 05:44 PM (rUyw4)
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Brad,
Next time the boss wants to go to lunch, just say no to Makers Mark. A few beers is just fine.
Man, 3 hours and who knows how many doubles later we get back to the office and I start writing about a vacation in Saudi Arabia.
Like the concierge would actually have a pig. More like goat right?
I wish I had one of those women who wear berkka and spoke only when spoken to. My wife is going to be pissed.
Posted by: Braaan at February 02, 2006 06:06 PM (3OPZt)
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I've been to Saudi Arabia on vacation too. It's beautiful. And the people are equally nice.
Boy, they sure are misunderstood in our part of the world!
Posted by: Mia at February 03, 2006 10:16 AM (dMWB/)
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But, Mia, where would I go to church on a Sunday morning? And I take my Bible everywhere I go. Would it be allowed there? I think there are other beautiful places in the World that have advanced out of the Dark Ages. I'll go to those places, thank you very much.
Posted by: jesusland joe at February 03, 2006 10:34 AM (rUyw4)
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FUCK IRAQ AND ALL THOSE GODDAMN MUSLIMS. I HOPE THEY ALL DIE WITH SHIT ON THERE FACES. I'm gonna go eat some bacon now.
Posted by: Marvin Woods at February 03, 2006 04:55 PM (OYAE5)
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Fuck'em if they can't take a joke.
Posted by: Bill at February 03, 2006 06:24 PM (f6PWQ)
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Remember when they ordered the death of SALMON RUSHDE over his books THE SATANIC VERSUS? this is very simular
Posted by: sandpiper at February 03, 2006 08:23 PM (sUgrV)
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If Muslims have never depicted Mohammed, how do they know those cartoons are him?
Posted by: Ginny at February 03, 2006 10:47 PM (0WUmx)
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Yo guys, really like the drawings. And NO, we're not outta virgins. Unfortunately the remaining has beard, but wth. Shooting innocent defenceless danes isn't worth much
- Mohammed
Posted by: Mohammed at February 04, 2006 02:53 PM (IEbE9)
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This is a great website, I like all the comments, I thought I was alone but now know I am not, thanks again for great reading, press on...
Posted by: Zakky at February 04, 2006 11:54 PM (nUbkE)
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KILL Those who have no sense of Humor. Mutilate their children. Sodomize their camels with their severed penises and deliver the penises to their mouthes. An Arm For An Eye. A Life for a cartoon. I learned this from the muslim example. I promise I will do you Psycopaths proud. Muhammad was a camel humper. He sucked baby penises. He wore poop masks!
Posted by: Liv4Evr at February 05, 2006 12:51 AM (K9axD)
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January 26, 2006
On post-Weimar Hamas
Abbas [singing]: Oh Hamas! You repaid my abuse with raw hatred. But I need you today. Oh Hamas! When you blew up some Jews and you framed me. So they locked me away...
Maybe it's my recent re-reading of Shirer's The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich talking, but someone stop me if I am crazy in seeing a few hard and fast similarities between Hamas and the late-1920s/early-1930s Nazi Party:
- both elected during times of minimal government control of the territory and in an area with a "poor" economic prospects, at best
- both groups gained fame as organizations for street thugs through open and unabashed violence
- both love a good outdoor ralley with pretty flags, weapons, and nationalistic chanting
- both love artistic posters in public places
- both appealed to the population with the promotion of territorial unification and seeking retribution against the Jews
- both were hoped to be "toned down" through elections and elevation within democratic offices, as world leaders rationalized that previous thuggish activities could never play well from a ruling government
Then again, there is one dissimilarity that really hits me. In November 1932, the last election before Hitler became Chancellor and the Nazis truly solidified power, the NSDAP only had 33.6% of parlimentary seats (down from the previous July, in which the Nazi held their greatest Weimar-era seat percentage at 37.8%). It seems that Hamas picked up about 57.5% of seats, with 76 out of 132.
I'm just sayin', is all.
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There's one big difference this time, though: the Jews are armed.
Heavily armed.
Posted by: Damian P. at January 26, 2006 02:04 PM (AVn2f)
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Hey there you are! Welcome back Wine-0-Holic
Posted by: Howie at January 26, 2006 02:38 PM (D3+20)
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I'd like to say regarding Damian's remark, I really would like to see another attempt by the assorted islamic scum of the ME to invade Israel again.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 26, 2006 03:08 PM (0yYS2)
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One more similarity...they both elected HITLER...
a Hamas member who goes by the nickname Hitler was elected yesterday.
Posted by: Steve Sharon at January 26, 2006 03:24 PM (Hj2fX)
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This whole situation in the so-called Gaza strip and West Bank is a creation of the UN. After Israel was born out of the disaster that was WWII, the Arabs who were displaced should have been absorbed by the Arab nations all around them, but they were herded into refuge camps where they have stayed to this day. Of course, rather than assimalate with the Arab states all around them, they have been encouraged to sit around and do nothing while being taken care of cradle to grave by the UN.
They have been allowed to do nothing. This breeds hate and gives hate the time to turn into genocide. Had these people carried on with their lives, they would be too busy to hate. But now, we see with our own eyes the situation that continues to unfold. We will be lucky if this area is not engulfed in a conflagration that could turn global.
Posted by: jesusland joe at January 26, 2006 03:48 PM (rUyw4)
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Another similarity between the two: Both were given a free pass for not being as corrupt as the government they replaced (se Jimmy Carter's comments today). At least the trains run on time....
Posted by: Brian B at January 26, 2006 03:51 PM (rGfpg)
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The big difference is that the Nazis were Germans, a people renowned for having their act together. The Palestinians are Arabs...
I'm sure they must be good at something aside from making noisy displays and long speeches, but I'm drawing a blank here.
The Germans applied their orderly mindset to asswhuppage and the problem of ethnic diversity with famously extreme results. Their tall bodycount has less to do with the extent of their hatred than with their talent for killing people and the serious, methodical, German way they tackled the project. They pioneered mass murder as an industrial process.
Arabs are not Germans or anything like them. Seriously, picture a concentration camp run by Arabs. Here's a hint if you're having trouble: They wouldn't manage it any better than anything else. Half the Jews would escape in weeks through holes in the fences because the guy hired to repair them is the commandant's son-in-law and never comes to work; or maybe they'd just climb out because the only thing the guards can hit with their AKs is the sky when they fire them at weddings. Not many Jews would die inside because the gas chamber would fall into disrepair, start leaking and kill people standing near it, so the guards would be afraid to use it.
However ill-suited to running Auchwitz the Palestinians would be, they are even less able to arrange the situation in the first place. This would require a victory on the battlefield. Not only do they lack the talent for this, but they show no interest in acquiring it. Their idea of armed struggle against Israel involves showy but pointless things like sporadic suicide attacks on discos and firing one 81mm mortar round per day in the general direction of Tel Aviv. A German (or an American) would save up that ammo for a proper bombardment, bring it down on an identifiable target, and follow up with an assault.
I don't see Hamas turning this around. The worst they could do is raise the meyhem level some.
Posted by: ShannonKW at January 26, 2006 04:17 PM (dT1MB)
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If I might, since we're bringing up Germans here, relay a brief story that happened recently. I opened my big fat mouth the other day and had my foot halfway to my tonsils before I realized what I was saying. We were discussing a new local German restaurant with our bartender who is also German. She said the food was authentic and very good, great weiner schnitzel, etc., but that the restaurant used to be a pizzeria with a large brick oven so they still carried pizza on the menu to utilize it. Then me - in my infinite curiosity - I asked her,
"Well isn't there something that Germans do with big ovens?"
I thought everyone in the bar was going to choke to death before I realized what I'd said. Thankfully the bartender thought it was as funny as everyone else. I was a little embarassed to say the least.
Posted by: Oyster at January 26, 2006 05:11 PM (YudAC)
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Heh, good one Oyster. D'Oh!
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 26, 2006 10:46 PM (0yYS2)
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I don't see the similarity.
The Nazis were snappy dressers - if anything - they did know how to make a fashion statement without being ostentatious. Can't see arabs coming even close with towels and sheets.
Posted by: hondo at January 27, 2006 12:58 AM (3aakz)
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The attraction that Nazism holds for muslims is predicated mainly on hatred for the Jews, but secondarily, it combines ethnic nationalism, xenophobia, aggressive military and cultural expansionism, and socialism, all of which appeal to persons of low intellect, and especially those from a backward culture. Ironically, Nazism is finding fertile ground among various and diverse groups around the globe, and it's not unusual to go over to Stormfront and find Nazi white supremacists and communists taking sides with muslims and liberals against their own countrymen. The Stormfront message board in places looks as if the comments were lifted from Kos or DU verbatim.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 27, 2006 01:29 PM (0yYS2)
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Reactions to Hamas' Win From Middle Eastern Press
While most Middle Eastern news outlets still have stories posted projecting a Fatah victory based on exit polling, a few have reacted to the real story. These two, from opposite sides of the Israeli-Palestinian fence, offer similar Pollyanna takes:
al Jazeera sees a tiny ray of sunshine:
And in a first sign of pragmatism, Mahmoud Zahar, a top Hamas official, said the group would extend its year-old truce if Israel reciprocates. "If not, then I think we will have no option but to protect our people and our land," he said.
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Jerusalem Post looks on the bright side:
"Now that they are in power, Hamas will have to take responsibility for the future. They will have to become more moderate. Now they are part of the democratic game and they will have to play by the democratic rules," Siniora said.
Siniora, a 69-year-old east Jerusalemite Christian, is publisher of The Jerusalem Times and a co-CEO of the Israel/Palestine Center for Research and Information. An early proponent of negotiations with Israel, he has long been involved in pro-peace activities. He was one of seven candidates contending for one of the two seats reserved for Christians in the Jerusalem district, but is unlikely to win the seat.
Unfortunately, the reality will probably be much grimmer, at least in the short run. For years, it's been obvious that Palestinian society has been undergoing a forced evolution. The smart Palestinians have found ways to escape their role as tools of Pan-Arabism, and gotten out.
What's left are the dregs, mentally damaged barbarians who have bred a sick, twisted culture based on celebrating terrorist acts. What else can you say about a society that deifies degenerates who deliberately seek out children to murder?
Are there enough intelligent, mentally healthy Palestinians left to build a civilized society? I don't think so, but I'd be very glad to be proved wrong.
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Now if they can only have a state of their own, we can invade them properly and exterminate them like the vermin they are.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 26, 2006 01:13 PM (0yYS2)
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Maxie
You are a far too violent and ham-handed in your appoach to such problems! Get creative! Explore some alternative possiblities!
Say, a small size asteroid - a nice secret lil' challenge for NASA - diverted and redirected for a global impact - in the immediate region. Putting those Space and High Tech Defense dollars to work! Keeping our hands clean and options open.
Posted by: hondo at January 26, 2006 01:28 PM (3aakz)
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Quick! Call Al Gore! Call John Kerry and Jimmy Carter! Call Keith Olberman and Jim Lampley! The exit polls don't match the outcome! The outcome must be fraudulent. The exit polls are never wrong! Quick, somebody file a lawsuit!
Posted by: geobandy at January 26, 2006 01:50 PM (T1l1O)
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HAMAS WINS: NOTHING WILL REALLY CHANGE
Before the election, Israel had no partner for a negotiated settlement, and it still doesn't have one.
Arafat said he recognized israel and then secretly ran a terror campaign to destroy Israel.
Abbas was either ineffective, or willingly allowed the terrorists REMAIN ARMED and to attack Israel however and whenever they wanted.
Now - through elections - Hamas gets control of the so called "Palestinian's" so called "government" and I predict that - effectively speaking - they will do the same things as Arafat and Abbas: claim they have reformed and claim they are willing to negotiate, but continue to attempt to destroy Israel and to continue to commit genocidal terror against Israelis.
Israel has only one way forward (KADIMA is hebrew for "forward"):
To continue to do what it has been doing for the last few years: to unilaterally disengage according to parameters which are solely in its own interest and to build a wall keeping Palistinians out, and to monitor all transport and communications into and out of Arab Palestine. And to retaliate with extreme force to any attack or any provocation of any attack.
NOTE: Hamas may claim to reform (as Arafat did) - in order to get funding from the USA and the EU and the UN, but their members - and the members of the other jihadoterrorist groups - won't suddenly become believers in (or practioners of) peaceful co-existence. The children these Arabs have raised to proudly become "human-guided/genocidal missiles" will not suddenly become doves or lambs. The war will go on.
FURTHER NOTE: I predict that Israel will IMMEDIATELY, AND WITH ALL DUE HASTE, move toward total and final separation by closing down the less defendable West Bank settlements and finishing and fortifying the "wall of separation." This will be along a line of Israel's choosing and it will include all of Jerusalem.WHY?! So that they will be in the BEST POSSIBLE militarily defensive position to withstand the "firestorm" which will be ignited when they and/or the US demolish Iran's nuke program and destroy Iran's offensive military capability. The pre-emptive attack against Iran will occur as soon as this is completed.
UPDATE: There's an UPSIDE to this election result: after the next jihadoterrorist attack, Hamas biggies will be much easier for the IDF to assassinate - unless they intend to rule from a bunker!
Posted by: reliapundit at January 26, 2006 02:19 PM (+z3qw)
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Maybe Bush could point his hurricane/tsunami generator at the paleostinians?
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 26, 2006 03:09 PM (0yYS2)
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I guess it's now safe to say that the terrorists are no longer a tiny minority of Palestinians, but the vast majority of Palestinians.
Posted by: jesusland joe at January 26, 2006 05:12 PM (rUyw4)
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Nah! I want a celestial impact - its got a certain quality to it. Of course portions of Israel might be toasted - but its not personal - just good business.
Posted by: hondo at January 26, 2006 06:22 PM (3aakz)
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I personally don't give a good flying damn about Israel really, and whether it continues to exist is of no concern to me whatsoever one way or another, but the paleostinians, along with all other arabs and muslim scum, need to be exterminated for the good of humanity.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 26, 2006 10:45 PM (0yYS2)
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Hamas Hires Spin Doctor
With generations of Jew-hating suicide bombers as members, Hamas has been perceived as a group of fanatical murderers. This apparently conflicts with a desire to be seen as a peaceful community outreach organization. As a result, Hamas has hired a spin doctor to establish a new image among the Europeans and Americans.
From the Guardian:
The organisation, also known as the Islamic Resistance Movement, has hired a media consultant, Nashat Aqtash, to improve its image at home and abroad because it expects to emerge from next week's Palestinian general election as a major political force, and wants recognition and acceptance by the US and EU.
"Hamas has an image problem. The Israelis were able to create a very bad image of the Palestinians in general and particularly Muslims and Hamas. My contract is to project the right image," said Mr Aqtash, who also teaches media at Birzeit University in Ramallah.
That's it. Hamas has an image problem because it was created by the Israelis.
I suspect Mr. Aqtash may have difficulty selling that notion.
Aqtash has encouraged Hamas' leaders to quit saying they want to destroy Israel and to stop celebrating suicide bombings. Unfortunately, the destruction of Israel is in the founding charter of Hamas. Take it away and there is no reason for Hamas to exist. With regard to stopping celebrations after murders, good luck. Hamas has successfully created a whole culture centered on weapons, explosives, and hatred of Jews.
Nevertheless, Mr. Aqtash will reportedly get $180,000 for his efforts. It's not clear whether he has to achieve results to get paid. On a related note, if Mr. Aqtash is getting paid to paint Hamas in a positive light, one has to wonder how much the BBC, Reuters, NYTimes, WaPo, Ass. Press and others are collecting.
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I hate to tell you this, but the next publicists for Hamas are going to be the United States, Western Europe, and the Israelis who make their decisions based on FEAR of America...
Posted by: Steve Sharon at January 21, 2006 06:15 PM (5Hrts)
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So this Aqtash guy is the first publicist?
I thought Hamas already had Anderson Cooper and Crescent News Network on the payroll.
Posted by: Brad at January 22, 2006 08:34 AM (BJYNn)
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True, Brad, how true it is, and pathetic. The Terrorist Enabler Network(TEN) would be a better logo and more accurate. Kinda catchy, don't ya think?
Posted by: jesusland joe at January 22, 2006 10:28 AM (rUyw4)
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Joe it is catchy,more honest, and the "smart 50%" would probably not have a problem with it.
Posted by: Brad at January 22, 2006 12:55 PM (BJYNn)
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