He won’t be surviving very long if a “moratorium" on executions is lifted. Nurpashi Kulayev was sentenced to die for his role in the siege of school which ended in the deaths of the rest of the terrorists and 300+ school children and teachers. At the very least he will rot for the rest of his life.

Euronews: The only man charged over the Beslan school siege two years ago has been found guilty and could face the death penalty. Reading out the sentence, the Russian judge said Nurpashi Kulayev had committed murder and attempted murder, taken part in a bandit group, taken hostages and illegally stored and transported weapons.

An official moratorium on the death penalty is in place.

However Deputy Attorney General Nikolai Shepel said he had asked for the highest punishment, the death penalty, but that he would not comment further and would wait for the court to decide.

A total of 330 people were killed when a group of gunmen, including suspected Chechen separatists, took over a school in Beslan on the first day of term. The other hostage-takers were killed in a shoot-out with Russian security forces.

Previous Jawa Report posts on the Beslan School siege here, here (video), here and here.

Related : More problems with Islamic terrorists in Dagestan.

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I had was always very sympathetic to charges of racism in my youth. But after I lived in Moscow for a year, I realized that minorities in the U.S. have no idea what the hell they are talking about when they talk about America being a racist country--as if it was somehow unique or worse here than in other parts of the world.

In Moscow, for instance, people who were from Africa or the Caucuses were always stopped by the police. Yes, I used the word always on purpose, because every time I got on the subway the police would be shaking down a person of color.

You never heard the word Chechen without a scowl--but Chechen was used to describe anybody who looked like they were from the Caucuses. Chechens, every one would tell you, ran the mafia.

Africans? Drug dealers. Not all of them, you know because every one had at least one African friend they could vouch for, just most of them.

Lowest on the racial totem pole were the Romani---they gypsies. No one could just say gypsy without using the modifier filthy.

Karol at Alarming News notes that racial tensions seem to be mounting in Russia, but according to this AP report everything was much better under Communism. Of course, what the article fails to mention is that under the Soviet System citizens were required to carry identity cards listing their race.

And "Jew" was a "race" according to the Communists.

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The Washington Times reports that large parts of an economics thesis written by President Vladimir Putin in the mid-1990s were lifted straight out of a U.S. management textbook published 20 years earlier.

Not surprised one bit. Long time readers know that I spent a year studying at a university in Moscow, Russia. Plagiarism is rampant and so is cheating. Russian students make American students look like angels. I'm completely serious. And I'm saying this while looking at an academic violation report on my desk right now because I caught a student cheating on the midterm. In fact, my experience was that professors not only expected what we would consider cheating, but they encouraged it. more...

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I'm not quite convinced--no, more than that, I'm highly skeptical--but that is one of the allegations made over the weekend at the Intelligence Summit. It looks like ABC News misled the nation when they claimed that the 12 hours of tape aired at the Intelligence Summit revealed no Saddam-WMD connection. However, as we have noted before, the Summit was not organized by the most reputable people in the world.

Renew America via Rocketsbraintrust:

The chief mischief-maker on the Russian side apparently was General Yevgeny Primakov, who headed the Soviet foreign intelligence service in 1990, served as Russia's minister of foreign affairs in 1996, and as prime minister in 1998. You may remember him as the post-Cold War general who was given to outrageous and threatening outbursts.

Despite Iraq's 8 billion dollar debt to Russia, Primakov convinced the Russian government to invest anew in rebuilding Iraqi military forces after Saddam's humiliating defeat in the Gulf War. "Secret agreements, signed between Iraqi intelligence and the Russian GRU, provided for clean-up operations to be conducted by Russian and Iraqi military personnel — to remove WMDs, materials for production, technical documentation, etc., from Iraq, so that the regime could announce that Iraq was 'WMD free.'"

Part of the plan — specifically dealing with chemical weapons — was described by a Romanian intelligence official now living in protective custody after briefing U.S. intelligence for three years. The Russians specified that all chemical/bio weapons were to be burned or buried at sea in the event of potential capture. Just before war against Iraq by the allied coalition, two Russian ships set sail for the Indian Ocean. Shaw says it's not known whether they then headed for Syria or were destroyed. The point is they were out of Iraq and out of the reach of any invasion force.

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Gribbit put this up at Conservative Thinking and I just figured it'd be a good idea to share it here as well:

This time it's Russia...

Shown are Jesus, Buddha, Mohammed, and Moses watching a crowd of clashing people while saying, "We never taught them to do that..."

Visit Pubilus Pundit for the full story why a Russian Mayor ordered the newspaper shut down.

H/T: Michelle Malkin

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The University of Toronto's student newspaper, the Strand, has published a cartoon of a gay Jesus kissing Muhammed. The cartoon was published as part of a debate over whether to show images of Muhammed from Danish papers. The image shows the face of Jesus, but does not show the face of Muhammed. Jesus is also seen disrobing Muhammed.

The same newspaper has refused to publish the Muhammed cartoons which have sparked worldwide riots, murders, and calls to impose the death penalty on all who blaspheme by misunderstanderers of the Religion of Peace.

Here is how they hypocritically defend not showing the Muhammed cartoons, but showing big gay Jesus:

But was it really freedom of the press, or a case of media martyrdom? Publishing these cartoons seems to do little more than fan the flames of already-existing controversy. Is it the press's responsibility to decide what people should absorb, or is providing an option more important? Articles are somewhat different; you can decide whether or not to read something based on the headline - which, admittedly, is questionable on the subject of giving audiences agency. A graphic or photograph, however, is much more intense: you don't really have the choice to view it or not.

More at Exposed Agenda with hat tip to Greg at Rhymes with Right.

Related from Publius Pundit via Michelle Malkin. Incidentally, I lived in Russia for a time and the newspapers often contain nude women. So, it's okay to have a centerfold in your newspaper but it's not okay to offend Muslims?

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The latest message from Osama Bin Laden may be an indication of weakness.

Slate : The conditions for this latest truce are of course impossible as well. All one needs, in order to earn Bin Laden's mercy, is to give up Afghanistan and Iraq. But this raises a more intriguing question. Why are formerly triumphalist jihadists using the language of "truce" at all? Not very long ago, God was claimed to be on their side and victory certain.

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Various Russian news agencies report that a lone knifeman entered a central Moscow synagogue and began randomly stabbing congregants. At least eight people were stabbed, four of them are in critical condition. Three of the victims were foreigners, including an American, and Israeli, and a Tajik. The name of the American victim is not known at this time.

Rabbi Yitzhak Kogan reports that the assailant said, "I've come here to kill." The assailant, 20 year old Alexander Koptsev, was apprehended by the Rabbi and his son. No known ties exist between Koptsev and antisemitic nationalist groups.

When I lived in Russia, ten years ago, antisemitism was rampant. I guess things haven't changed all that much.

UPDATE: Looks like he was a skinhead, or 'gooligan' as they say in Russia.

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The Russians want to make liquor available to the crew of the International Space Station.

"They fly in orbit for half a year and perform a heavy workload, especially during exhausting space walks when they shed several kilos in weight over a few hours," said a source in the Russian medical support teams for the manned space program. "Many people think a small ration of alcohol would help restore their strength."

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(Moscow) Russia's Federal Security Service, FSB, announced Friday that Sheikh Abu Omar Al Seyf, the top al Qaeda leader in the North Caucasus, was killed in the Russian Republic of Dagestan last month.

From Mosnews.com:

"Under the cover of the international non-governmental organization Al Haramein Islamic Foundation, he organized a terrorist cell in Dagestan, Chechnya and Ingushetia," the FSB reported. During the last few years Al Seyf was a chairman of the so-called shariah courts committee of the self-proclaimed Chechen republic of Ichkeria. He was reportedly informed of all the appointments made within the armed groups. He received and distributed all the money for terrorist activity inside Russia, the FSB report said.

The security officials claim Al Seyf took part in the planning and preparing of terrorist attacks, and extremist religious and political propaganda.

Details of Al Seyf's death were not reported. However, since he was simply a thug terrorist who measured success in the number of murdered civilians, I hope his death was slow and excruciatingly painful.

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(Moscow) I guess it's time to try and figure out which ex-communist will be allowed to take President Putin's place.

From The Moscow Times:

President Vladimir Putin said Monday that he would not seek a third term in 2008, but vowed not to allow "destabilization" in Russia following the vote, leaving the door open for drastic action in the event of a crisis.

In an interview with Dutch media on the eve of a visit to the International Criminal Court in The Hague, Netherlands, Putin reiterated that he opposed changing the Constitution to prolong his time in power -- a possibility that has been widely discussed because of his popularity and control of the parliament.

But Putin said that the 2008 presidential election would be a "serious, difficult test for Russia" and stressed that full power and responsibility for the fate of the country would remain in his hands until the new president has been sworn in.

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1 Two dictators gone in a single year! First ChimpMcBushHilter, followed by Rasputin , the Democrats heads are spinning.

Posted by: dave at November 01, 2005 04:14 PM (CcXvt)

2 Weird comment - whats it like to live in a perpetual hallucinagenic state? - do you see colors? - Oh! Sorry - red red red blue red red red blue red red red red etc.

Posted by: hondo at November 01, 2005 04:43 PM (ymtSt)

3 Dude, whatever you've been eating, smoking, shooting, or snortnig, you've either done too much or not enough.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 01, 2005 05:13 PM (0yYS2)

4 Greg, how many times you going to spin and take out of context the same 'dictatorship' comment. I'm sure you've never said anything imperfectly in your life, we are then expected to assume?

Posted by: dave at November 01, 2005 06:30 PM (CcXvt)

5 No Dave, 'cause when you assume, you make an ass + u + me. And you're going to pan this off on an imperfection? An imperfection is saying "strategery". Saying you wish you were a dictator is a fatal flaw, not an imperfection.

Posted by: menenzes' ghost at November 01, 2005 06:38 PM (TVaWo)

6 I think it is obvious to just about everyone reading the statement you provided, President Bush he is saying "as long as I am the one in charge" Taken completely out of context.

Posted by: dave at November 01, 2005 06:44 PM (CcXvt)

7 Greg, why don't drop the idiotic cut & paste crap? Do you actually think that anyone here is as stupid as you are, and take that shit seriously? Do you think you're going to change anyone's mind? How big a fucking idiot are you?

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 01, 2005 06:51 PM (0yYS2)

8 Pulease Dave, The quote is, "If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator." He didn't say, "as long as I am the one in charge" . Stop making stuff up.

Posted by: menenzes' ghost at November 01, 2005 06:51 PM (TVaWo)

9 You're an idiot, Impy. Now, run along.

Posted by: menenzes' ghost at November 01, 2005 06:53 PM (TVaWo)

10 Greg, fuck you, you stupid, dickless little liberal asswipe. If you were a man, you'd find a better way to spend your time, but as it is, do come here to waste ours, when you're not jerking off to kiddie porn. I hope to meet you one day, you cocksucking little troll.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 01, 2005 07:10 PM (0yYS2)

11 You're projecting Impy. You're projecting about one inch.

Posted by: menenzes' ghost at November 01, 2005 07:21 PM (TVaWo)

12 IM, Actually, I think I live pretty close to the little punk. I'm staying in Abilene this week, but my dad's family is from Kerrville, and I'll be down there next month for Christmas. I think he lives in Austin, and I'll be going right through there, so maybe he and I can meet for a beer. How about it, Greg, you want to meet for a cold one?

Posted by: jesusland joe at November 01, 2005 07:28 PM (rUyw4)

13 "If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator." when you dissect my comments, and ignore the obvious, it only points to an agenda greg.

Posted by: dave at November 01, 2005 07:39 PM (CcXvt)

14 No third term for putrid putin unlike the favorite commie of all the hollywood liberals GORBECHEV

Posted by: sandpiper at November 01, 2005 08:32 PM (9NBAS)

15 http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/cms.php?story_id=3266

Posted by: Route Irish at November 02, 2005 12:23 AM (Eh9tH)

16 Route Irish: GET YOUR OWN BLOG!!! You too, Greg and DSM. All three together don't have enough intellect to pose any real challenge. What's their life dream? To see how many people they CAN'T pull over to their side?

Posted by: Oyster at November 02, 2005 03:18 AM (YudAC)

17 Old news, he's been saying that for 3 years now.

Posted by: A Finn at November 02, 2005 04:34 AM (cWMi4)

18 Joe, if you do meet with him, send me a memento. An ear'll do.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 02, 2005 09:46 AM (0yYS2)

19 Hell, he won't answer me!

Posted by: jesusland joe at November 02, 2005 10:20 AM (rUyw4)

20 Of course not, he won't compromise himself by leavnig the safety of his mom's basement.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 02, 2005 03:55 PM (0yYS2)

21 Die, be murdered, or be pickled. Remember Yeltsen.

Posted by: BWS at November 03, 2005 04:52 PM (WIFkt)

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One of the the things that I've always admired about Rusty and his blog is his willingness to post images that the MSM never would.

The images tend to be graphic, and viewing them causes righteous anger, and more than a little heartache.

Thankfully, however, I've managed to find an image that should cause great joy among the Jawa faithful.

Because the only good terrorist is...

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1 Looks like they're all wearing the same thing. I'd call that "uniforms". That makes them legitimate targets, right?

Posted by: Oyster at October 14, 2005 05:59 AM (YudAC)

2 I like the cutline under the photograph. Bodies of apparent militants lie in the street. Oh, brother, the hypocrisy of the AP is also lying there for anybody to see.

Posted by: jesusland joe at October 14, 2005 10:08 AM (rUyw4)

3 It's not like the AP reporter can go over and ask them, "Are you terrorists?"

Posted by: IO ERROR at October 14, 2005 10:48 AM (vhWf1)

4 Well jj, at least they didn't call them "freedom fighters" like they used to in the 70's and 80's, but they still didn't call them terrorists either. I guess murdering 300 kids in a school doesn't qualify one as a terrorist.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at October 14, 2005 11:12 AM (0yYS2)

5 "apparent militants". Not only are they loathe to use the word "terrorist", but now they can't even bring themselves to say "Islamic".

Posted by: Oyster at October 14, 2005 12:51 PM (fl6E1)

6 Apparent=Clear,(but we cant say,why R they Chechen rebels? Reds have been tough on them for sure.

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Simultaneous attacks on government installations in the Russian city of Nalchik have resulted in at least 60 deaths with scores wounded. Chechen rebels have claimed responsibility for the attacks. Nalchik, capital of Kabardino-Balkaria province, is about 50 miles northwest of Beslan where Chechen gunmen killed hundreds last year, half of them schoolchildren.

From the BBC:

Kabardino-Balkaria, a Muslim region, lies close to war-ravaged Chechnya.

A regional leader told Itar-Tass news agency that a third of the 150 rebels that took part in attacks had been killed.

President Arsen Kanokov also said 12 civilians had been killed, although this figure has not been confirmed.

A source at Nalchik's Republican Hospital told Ekho Moskvy radio that the dead who had been brought in were "all people in uniform".

At least 40 injured people had been taken to the hospital, with more arriving all the time, the source added.

One unidentified security official has told Russian news agency RIA that the reason for the attack was the arrest on Wednesday of at least one radical extremist.

From ABC News Online:

One girl who ran out of the school said armed men were firing inside the building but security officials later made clear that armed police had entered the school to ensure its emergency evacuation due to its close proximity to the site of one of the buildings under attack.

Russian media said gun battles occurred at a number of locations in Nalchik and the city centre was saturated with security forces, while gunfire could be heard nearby.

A local journalist quoted by RIA-Novosti news agency said the gunmen were dressed in civilian clothing and took advantage of panic to blend in with the local population, hiding weapons under their clothes as they changed locations, before opening fire again on security forces.

[Update 0750 EDT, 10/13/05]

According to a senior Russian official, President Putin has ordered the city of Nalchik sealed and has given shoot-to-kill instructions for any person who puts up armed resistance.

[Update 1050 EDT, 10/13/05] by Rusty Shackleford:

This will not end well. Gateway Pundit also following crisis.

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While we are all wrapped up in our own problems right now letÂ’s also take a few minutes to remember the children of Beslan. Gateway pundit has a post reminding us all of how much the terrorists love kids.

Watching the young girls being brought into another room. Forced to clean up the blood off the floors. Drinking urine to stay alive. Dragging your younger brother through the halls. Pulling his limp body through a broken window.

Freedom Fighters Right? More like war criminals.

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I wonder how the five released Gitmo prisoners will find conditions in a real Russian gulag? Do you think their will be a massive outcry from the Left and the European elite?

Via ITB this from Mosnews:

Two former Guantanamo prisoners, extradited to Russia in 2002, have been detained in Moscow on suspicion of preparing a series of terrorist attacks, the Vremya Novostei newspaper reported Tuesday.

The two Russian citizens, Airat Vakhitov and Rustam Akhmyarov, who were seized in a counter-terrorist operation in Afghanistan and kept at the Guantanamo base in Cuba with other Taliban and terrorist suspects, and then extradited home to Russia, have been detained and are now being held in a Russian detention centre.

They are charged with preparing and carrying out a series of terrorist acts in the Central Russian Povolzhye region.

Three other former Guantanamo prisoners have been detained in RussiaÂ’s Tatarstan Republic on the same charges, the paper adds.

All in all, of the seven Russian Guantanamo prisoners extradited from Cuba in 2004, only two are not in custody.

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Ingushetia neighbors Chechnya and is racked by the same ROP inspired violence. Xinhua:

Two powerful explosions rocked a southern Russian republic Thursday afternoon, injuring the prime minister of the republic and killing one of his guards.

Ibragim Malsagov, the prime minister of Russia's North Caucasus republic of Ingushetia, was wounded in the leg in an assassination attempt in Nazran, the main city of the republic, at 2:25 p.m. Moscow time (1025 GMT), a regional interior ministry official was quoted by the Interfax news agency as saying.

Malsagov was rushed to hospital and doctors confirmed that his life was not in danger.

However, one of his guards was killed and at least two others were injured in the blasts.

Officials said attackers detonated two bombs as Malsagov's motorcade passed through central Nazran, with the first blast meant to divert attention.

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The difference between Stalin and Hitler? Hitler lost. WaTimes:

Amid all the chitchat, commentary and controversy over this week's celebrations marking the end of World War II, there is a question that has never been far from the surface, though it has rarely broken through: Which was really worse -- communism or Nazism?

One answer, a sensible one at that, is that both systems were so degraded, disgusting and unpalatable that it is impossible to establish a hierarchy of value in which one could possibly stand higher, or lower, than the other. When you've reached the deepest pit in Hell there's nowhere lower to go.

Unfortunately, though, that conclusion is often lost in a quagmire of ignorance and historical distortion. Not because anyone this side of decency really doubts the horrors of Nazism. But, sadly, because there are still large numbers of people (and judge for yourself which side of decency they stand) who still refuse to face up to the horrors of communism.

Take veteran Guardian columnist Jonathan Steele, writing in that paper just last week. In an irony that would certainly escape him, he makes it clear that one purpose of his polemic is to combat the "denial" in the West about the role of the Soviet Union in defeating Hitler. In attempting to foreclose on the argument that "Nazism and communism were somehow two sides of the same evil coin" he reaches a crescendo with the following, extraordinary statement: "Mass terror and purges," he says, "were not intrinsic to Soviet rule, as was clear after Stalin's death."

Yet, no one says, "Hey, those fascists weren't really all that bad. It was Hitler that perverted fascism." See how this works? As if any paper would stand up and call Mussolini a reformer, Franco an anti-Hitlerite, or Juan Peron an idealist.

Soviet mass terror, by contrast, was a feature of the regime right from the beginning. Lenin's core principle of Red Terror was applied in the slaughter of up to half a million class enemies in the very first years of Soviet rule. And that is before we add in the millions of victims of a civil war which was the direct result of communist despotism.

In Lenin's own words, the new Soviet system was "a special system of organized violence against a certain class." The use of terror against class and ideological enemies was thus a central, defining part of the communist system.

Lenin's Commissar for Justice Issac Steinberg well remembers in his memoirs a telling conversation with Lenin in which he (bravely) expressed reservations about the scale of that terror. "Then why do we bother with a commissariat of Justice?" he asked Lenin. "Let's call it frankly the commissariat for Social Extermination and be done with it!" Lenin jumped at the idea. "Well put," he said. "That's exactly what it should be...but we can't say that."

The full death toll, most of it accumulated in peace time, at the hands of Lenin and his political and ideological successor, Stalin, is estimated by the best authorities at somewhere between 25 million and 30 million people. Not bad in a system for which mass terror and purges were not "intrinsic" parts. In what passes for Steele's argument, he suggests the scaling down of the terror after Stalin's death is evidence the system was not inherently terroristic. Does it not occur to him that there was no one left to kill?

But by far the most significant category is made up by people who have a deep ideological need to save the reputation of the one by showing up its "better" qualities in comparison with the other. Neo-Nazis have thus long sought to stress the crimes of Stalin while diminishing or denying entirely the crimes of Hitler. It serves their perverted aims to do so. The old, Western Left has participated in exactly the same kind of enterprise in reverse. The difference is, of course, that they continue to get away with it, avoiding the contempt that both groups, not just one, so richly deserve.

One of the main speakers was an American from the CPUSA. Had he been 5 feet closer I would have punched that SOB right in the mouth. The utter drivel coming out of his mouth about how Russians were so much better off under the Soviet Union and how they enjoyed such a higher standard of living than Americans.

Being a Leftist is a lot like being a member of a cult. But at least in a cult they need to make you eat low-protein gruel to lower your resistance to suggestion. Leftist seem willing and able to buy into the ideological nonsense of their own free will.

Hmmm, I take that back. Maybe kashi (mush) and shi (cabbage soup) were Communist inventions to get the masses on board with the Fearless Leader's glorious seven year plan?

Hat tip: Kevin Aylward

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Ok, you know our position here at The Jawa, too many right-wingers are overly critical of Vladimir Putin. But this? These comments are beyond the pale. It's not so much that he's wrong about the immorality of the Dresden bombings as he's got a hell of a lot of nerve being critical of the Western Allies and saying the Soviets were, you know, just nice guys.

The last two night The History Channel has been running episodes on the final days of the Eastern front. The Soviets were every bit as bad as the Nazis in the way they handled the war. Millions of German POWs were starved to death or outright murdered by the Soviets. Hat tip Bill Dauterieve.

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1 The Red pot is calling the kettle black.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at May 05, 2005 01:45 PM (x+5JB)

2 But, how can you be hard on him with comments like this? Putin... said the civilian population in Germany had suffered greatly during the war but said it was not the Soviets’ fault. “The Soviet Union or the Red Army can’t be blamed for that... it wasn’t the Soviet Union that started the war.” See, while there was great suffering, it was a) not the Soviets fault because b) the Soviets didn't instigate war. How such logic would not apply to the UK and the US, I have no idea. Also considering that the Red Army routinely shot its own generals and soldiers without much care, you have to wonder what "special humanity" would logically be in store for German troops and civilians.

Posted by: Wine-aholic at May 05, 2005 01:45 PM (Wsn+K)

3 Like Greg Fonda here, Putin is a dick.

Posted by: Filthy Allah at May 05, 2005 01:47 PM (yBHNA)

4 I have not seen The History Channel series. Based on past shows about WW II and other wars, THC has a habit of always skewing things to make it look like America is always the angel in the war, while the others parties involved are barbaric heathens. I don't neccessarily agree with a few of the comments Putin made, but he absolutely correct about the Allies indescriminant blanket bombing of German cities. More often than not, it was civilians who suffered in these bombing campaigns. If recall correctly, the blanket bombing of German cities killed well over 100,000 civilians. People who had nothing to do with the war, other than being German. These bombings were done using what were known as Fire-bombs (the predessor to Napalm). The bomb would explode with a jelly-like gasoline substance that would in turn start fire-storms. The fire-storms would spread so quickly, the civilians would be trapped in city streets. In other words, tens of thousands of men, women, and children were burned alive. Sound familiar? There is no doubt Hilter was an evil, stupid man who deserved no less than the same treatment he gave european Jews, Muslims, Gypsies, and others. But to play out the Allies as somehow the avenging angels of mercy is equally dishonest. Our war-crimes were equally brutal and unforgiving. 23 million people died in WW II. Someday someone will take that number and figure out exactly who killed who and how many. Maybe then people won't be so high and mighty, and will accept the truth of war. That truth being: No one wins a war.

Posted by: deccles at May 05, 2005 01:50 PM (UCtX/)

5 Let's see - Japan just apologized and Rasputin is crying, "It wasn't our fault. WAH!" I don't know which is worse. Apologizing for something other people did or simply denying the past.

Posted by: Oyster at May 05, 2005 01:51 PM (fl6E1)

6 "...it wasn't the Soviet Union that started the war." - Tell that to the Finns. Has Putin forgotten which side his country started out on? Anybody remember the Ribbentrop Pact?

Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at May 05, 2005 02:01 PM (RHG+K)

7 Talk to my Polish and East German relatives, Mr. Putin, if you think *Russia* has any grounds for bragging about "special humanity" during WWII. You know, East Germany? The place where you personally worked with your Stasi buddies a little later? Denying that Moscow was to blame for Germany’s post-war division, Putin said Soviet leaders had worked hard “to preserve the integrity and unity of Germany” after the war. “But some of our allies unfortunately took the opposite position.” Yes, I have no doubt that the Soviets wanted to preserve the unity of Germany... under the Red Star, that is.

Posted by: Varenius at May 05, 2005 02:03 PM (pGHMt)

8 deccles: That truth being: No one wins a war. No, we won the war. Dumbass.

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at May 05, 2005 02:08 PM (JQjhA)

9 Uhhhh, we kicked much ass. We won. We continue to win. Only libs can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory

Posted by: Obsnooks at May 05, 2005 02:09 PM (yBHNA)

10 Rusty, Tell that to the families who suffered through that. Dumbass

Posted by: David Eccles at May 05, 2005 02:15 PM (UCtX/)

11 David, Ok. Hey families that suffered through that: We won the war. There is a difference between a war being just and actions within a war being just. All wars have unjust actions in them. Not all sides, though, are guilty of those unjust actions being systematic. The U.S. made some mistakes in WWII, but the war itself was just. Also, as the actions of the German 6th Army show, German soldiers were willing to risk life fighting the Soviets just so to have the opportunity to surrender to the U.S. That is telling.

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at May 05, 2005 02:26 PM (JQjhA)

12 I've got one word for Mr. Putin: Katyn.

Posted by: D. Carter at May 05, 2005 02:29 PM (Suv/B)

13 I never liked Putin, he's KGB after all. Hardly the type that's likely to cultivate democracy. Don't forget that asinine statement Bush made to the effect that he had looked into Putin's eyes and found a man he could trust. The immorality of Bush's war in Iraq has led us to lay down with this undesirable bedfellow. Essentially the deal is this: You Russians don't arm the Iraqi insugents and we'll let you do whatever you like in Chechnia and at home. One step forward and one step backwards. We're on a treadmill making up no ground.

Posted by: greg at May 05, 2005 02:42 PM (/+dAV)

14 Greg Fonda. Puh-lease. What-everrrrrr.

Posted by: filthy allah at May 05, 2005 02:45 PM (yBHNA)

15 David Eccles: Of course the US did commit some atrocities during the war -- the European family members I mentioned previously were also on the receiving end of American bombs, some in fact in Dresden itself. But you don't have to have a "Rah rah, American is always right" mindset to be bothered by Putin's statements. Russia has little grounds for criticizing its other Allies for their wartime conduct, both because of Russia's own list of wrongdoing AND its initial cooperation with Nazi Germany. Putin should at the very least keep his mouth shut. By the way, the death toll you give for Dresden is quite inflated. See this book review for more. Or to put it another way, be careful about learning history from Kurt Vonnegut.

Posted by: Varenius at May 05, 2005 02:45 PM (pGHMt)

16 "Ok. Hey families that suffered through that: We won the war." I guess you'll just never get it Rusty. This is for everyone reading. I been reading blogs for only a few months. Some of it is good, some of it is trash. There is one thing that amazes about people responding to comments I post sometimes. It's that as soon as I say something that doesn't neccessarily agree with the opinion of the author or the other bloggers, or perhaps attempts to give more than one point of view, out come these freaks who immediately assume I'm some kind of evil idiot who doesn't deserve to live. Here's my example for today - "There is a difference between a war being just and actions within a war being just." No where in my original post did I mention the war was just, unjust or anything else. I simply stated fact. "All wars have unjust actions in them. Not all sides, though, are guilty of those unjust actions being systematic. The U.S. made some mistakes in WWII, but the war itself was just." Notice the constant, desperate attempts to defend the position no matter how atrocious the action discussed may have been. I wouldn't call the intentional fire-bombing of tens of thousands a "mistake". A mistake is when you spill your milk on the carpet. This is the kind of thing I'm talking about. D-E-N-I-A-L. "Also, as the actions of the German 6th Army show, German soldiers were willing to risk life fighting the Soviets just so to have the opportunity to surrender to the U.S. That is telling." I bet they did. I wouldn't want to be forced to fight and starve to death either. But so what? What does this have to do with my original post? And why is it that when I post dissenting, or alternate veiwpoints I get comdemned as a traitor? Isn't it stated in not so many words in the Constitution and Declaration that speaking out about my government when I believe they are doing wrong is not only my right, but my duty and responsibility? I can't think of anything MORE American than doing just that. That's how America got here in the first place, was people speaking out against their government. I for the life of me cannot understand why some people are against this concept? Nevermind. Rusty, you brought out the best in me today. Thanks.

Posted by: deccles at May 05, 2005 02:55 PM (UCtX/)

17 Both the Germans and the Russians were Soc---ist countries. Hitler and Stalin both thought Marx was the man. So it should be no surprise that they were both vicious.

Posted by: Rod Stanton at May 05, 2005 03:03 PM (Kkge+)

18 BTW This is the man that was the head of the KGB in the USSR

Posted by: Rod Stanton at May 05, 2005 03:07 PM (Kkge+)

19 Actually, the Dresden bombings were done in response to a request by the Soviet Union to support its military operations by attacking key communications routes in Germany with respect to the eastern front. These bombing operations were coordinated with the Soviets and the subject of intense discussion at Yalta. Putin is a liar. Must be related to Greg.

Posted by: Robin Roberts at May 05, 2005 03:23 PM (xauGB)

20 While I'm not normally a fan of Wikipedia, this discussion of Dresden is quite good. It references more modern estimates of casualties and addresses the difficult question of what international laws of war applied.

Posted by: Robin Roberts at May 05, 2005 03:28 PM (xauGB)

21 The Soviets were every bit as bad as the Nazis in the way they handled the war. That's at the very least an understatement. The Soviets were so bad that Hitler feared them: he feared waiting for them to make their move and he feared not being able to defeat them. That Putin is who he is reflects his place in Russian history, and the nature of politics. And David, spare me the "patriot dissent" BS. You accuse others of knee-jerk, pro-America responses, but you are the mirror opposite. You've been pegged in your first post here, where you note an atrocious approach to war employed - the bombing of cities that cost "civilians" their lives. What you deny is that those were not unwitting innocents, they were supporters of the regime whether they wore a uniform or not. They went to work, paid their taxes, kept society going. If they weren't supporters, they should have gotten out of there rather than staying like parasites, or acted as covert counteroperatives, which makes them combatants. It's a perfect example of the bumper-sticker maxim: Evil thrives when good people do nothing. Then you summarize: Our war-crimes were equally brutal and unforgiving. You've just labled every action by Allied forces as a war crime, though you use the term slyly in an effort to disarm people in the wake of Abu Graib - who wants to be in denial about such things? But it's a nonsequitur; war was conducted with the objective of winning with least cost in lives and material. War crimes occur outside the order; the line is blurred by the war crimes the Germans were charged with. But they were the losers, the perpetrators, and they were acting as part of the greater plan. So let's lay down the gauntlet, David. What constitutes appropriate warfare? Killing is obviously out, because it will cause pain and suffering, and some people who we think shouldn't pay the price will, which is totally untenable to you. It appears that outside of submitting to any power that marches the face of the earth, you would allow us all to suffer exactly what you hate.

Posted by: tee bee at May 05, 2005 03:36 PM (q1JHF)

22 Greg, How does it feel to be the Israel on this website. Here and other posts I see, Greg is a devil, he is a traitor, he just sucks. And lot of the time you havenÂ’t even posted anything. It is much like the stupid Arabs saying US sucks for attacking Iraq (in both wars) and Israel sucks also. Well Israel is not attacking anyone, but they still suck and we are going to kill them anyway. Well,good luck routing these Arabs.

Posted by: Butch at May 05, 2005 03:44 PM (Gqhi9)

23 Butch, I view this phenomenon from a sociological perspective. A society needs the cohesive properties of external forces to hold it together. Boogeymen have provided this force since the dawn of man. To the readers of the Jawa Report I play the role of boogeyman by proxy.

Posted by: greg at May 05, 2005 04:05 PM (/+dAV)

24 Greg has confused "boogeyman" with "booger". The latter is that thing you find in your nose and are unable to get off your finger.

Posted by: Robin Roberts at May 05, 2005 04:16 PM (xauGB)

25 Rod: Didn't Hitler hate communism, ergo, Marx?

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at May 05, 2005 04:52 PM (iBKJj)

26 Boogey my *ss, you're a f*cking decoy in the pond, that's what you are

Posted by: Talking head at May 05, 2005 04:55 PM (a9tRx)

27 "It's not so much that he's wrong about the immorality of the Dresden bombings as he's got a hell of a lot of nerve being critical of the Western Allies and saying the Soviets were, you know, just nice guys." Whats what some dead people did 50 years ago got to do with him?

Posted by: actus at May 05, 2005 04:58 PM (CqheE)

28 Hitler and Communism Yes, Hitler disagreed with Communist theory; that the power should be held by the people, but that wasn't Communist practice, just propaganda, a means to an end. Hitler was fascist who put the State before the People, but at least he was honest about it. Lenin and Stalin did the same, but just lied about it. The key difference between the two systems was collectivization. Under the Nazis, German citizens lived very well and had full property rights within the law, but Soviet citizens had no property rights and lived or starved at the pleasure of the State. Hitler's system was the lesser of two evils, mainly because he actually did care about his own people to a certain extent, whereas the Russian leaders enjoyed starving their own people to death just to prove a point.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at May 05, 2005 05:12 PM (0yYS2)

29 IM: You are a gentleman and a scholar.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at May 05, 2005 05:54 PM (iBKJj)

30 Putin what in his Ass&%*& Enough of this filthy talk!

Posted by: sparky at May 05, 2005 06:32 PM (F1nba)

31 "Under the Nazis, German citizens lived very well and had full property rights within the law" WTF are you talking about? What was kristallnacht?

Posted by: actus at May 05, 2005 08:32 PM (CqheE)

32 Actus, What IMax should of said was those people Hitler to be true Germans enjoyed. (Blonde hair and Blue eyes.) Of course this does not extend to the Jews and others.

Posted by: Butch at May 06, 2005 07:36 AM (Gqhi9)

33 Yes, I think he was referring to Party memebers who supported him.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at May 06, 2005 08:47 AM (x+5JB)

34 Is anyone really surprised by anything Putin says or does these days?

Posted by: Venom at May 06, 2005 11:31 AM (dbxVM)

35 YEAH I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN I THINK THAT THEIR IS ANOTHER DICTATOR AT THE WHITEHOUSE ,,

Posted by: SANTOS GONZALEZ at May 14, 2005 09:42 PM (9tPxG)

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Chad has the report. Let me just remind our readers that my position on Russia is clear. Despite the fact that Russia has endlessly meddled in the affairs of its proximate neighbors, they are our natural ally in the GWOT in the region.

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Interesting findings of a Pew poll as published by the Union of Councils for Jews in the Soviet Union. Second place goes to the Germans and the French *shock*:

A survey conducted by the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press on global attitudes towards Muslims, Jews, and Christians found that among predominantly Christian countries, Russia is the most antisemitic, according to a March 18, 2005 report by the Regnum news agency.

Twenty-five percent of respondents to the Pew survey in Russia expressed hostility towards Jews, compared to 20% in Germany, 11% in France, 9% in the UK, and 8% in the US. Hostility towards Muslims was expressed by 46% of respondents in Germany, 38% in Russia, 32% in the US, 29% in France, and 18% in the UK.

Attitudes towards Jews and Christians in selected predominantly Muslim countries were generally more hostile, with a whopping 92% of respondents in Morocco expressing hostility towards Jews and 72% expressing hostility towards Christians.

Parenthetically I have seen hostility towards Muslims in both the U.S. and Russia. A survey cannot capture how this hostility is translated on the ground.

In Moscow, for instance, Tartars or people who appeared to be from the Caucuses are routinely sidelined by the police for questioning. And by routine I mean every time I went to a Metro stop the police were checking the I.D. on a darker skinned guy.

The summary of findings for the report also shows that 57% of the French think that the U.S. is overreacting to terrorism.

Other tidbits? 2% of Pakistanis have an unfavorable view of Muslims. Interestingly enough, Pakistan's Christian population is estimated at between 1.5-3%. Why would Christians in Pakistan have an unfavorable view of Muslims? Answer.

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1 Russians have hated Jews for centuries. They have also respected ruthlessness for a long time. That is why 100 years ago Lenin and Trotsky decided to start a series of pogroms against Jews to show the people how ruthless they were. They did this for two reasons: 1. The Tsar did not like Jews so he would not have the Army or the police give the Bolsheviks a hard time. 2. It would let the people know that they ment business so when 1917 came they would not support the Tsar. It worked. - Trotsky was a little too big for his britches and was murdered by the KGB about 250 miles SE of here 70 years ago. The Mexicans were scared of -or supported - Communists (as they cam to be called) and did nothing.

Posted by: Rod Stanton at March 29, 2005 05:37 PM (2zFlC)

2 When I was a young Jedi I had occassion to do unto the musselmen what they would have loved to do to my kirk. Qurans make lovely tamping for C4.

Posted by: Bullshark at March 29, 2005 06:36 PM (drVg7)

3 "Twenty-five percent of respondents to the Pew survey in Russia expressed hostility towards Jews, " Uh. . . could that be because 25% of Russians are muslim? Oh no, that's such a hateful thought . . .

Posted by: José Josephus at March 30, 2005 03:52 AM (QUQO2)

4 Does that mean 75% don't have a prolem?

Posted by: greyrooster at March 31, 2005 12:24 AM (CBNGy)

5 Since I just read your post and only answer to it, I bet a lot of people don't realize that, but it is so true. Amazes me, but it's so true. Arayan is what they want and it just floors me that after World War II, they have such a racist thoughts. I believe we had this conversation before, too. Cindy

Posted by: firstbrokenangel at March 31, 2005 10:00 AM (PEKrh)

6 hi i just want to say that jews are not humans so dont talk about them they are neither animals so they are stones and kill them destroy them like a concrete and use it in buildings .............

Posted by: kaka at April 01, 2005 04:30 PM (zWVkx)

7 Jose: Good thinking. KAKA: Did someone give you that name because you stink?

Posted by: greyrooster at April 02, 2005 10:51 AM (CBNGy)

8 Here is a topic of ongoing Hate.I found out my father was the Real bombadier that flew the Nagasaki mission.Check out page 80 in "Rain of ruin,History of Hiroshima & Nagasaki"Upper left hand corner.Thats not Howard Hues squatting below him is it? Those people changed when they returned from the mission,(they may have had second thoughts about getting there picture taken after the mission and refused to }and now most pictures are differnt.Most Americans dont know what he looked like,but I lived in the hawian islands when the book came out and you should have seen the looks I got by the japanize,I looked identical to him when I was young and still look quite abit like him.They put me with a differnt family and tried to hide me when I was a "baby".Now I have Military records and pictures and can prove it. and I'm sure the Japanize noticed the differance in the pictures,and they know my name anyway.Now my life realy sucks.I never seen to have any facts,just a lot of detremental coinsidences in my life,Like trying to get my taxes filed by a cpa in a timly fashon ect.Business deals suddenly going bad.Are these people being "ask" to quietly not do business with me?Do the japanize look at me like I'm the son of Hitler?Do I have to worry that some japanize whose grand parents or parents that were killed in the bombings might sneak up behind me and lop my head off? Are they,have they or will they "come around" and use there influance to cause me problems?I am curios as to what percentage of them think I should suffer,and how much of a percentage of power they hold. I'm in my early 40's and have always been strait and I am single.Does anyone have advice how to approch trying to find a wife,or would that only cause her and her family "problems"dgroot@tampabay.rr.com

Posted by: Dan Groot at April 03, 2005 11:56 AM (ktLgO)

9 I believe that the Jews are the God's chosen people.God might have chosen them for a very special purpose which is not known to ordinary human beings all over the world. Unless and until we discover the reasons Jews will remain a subject of hatred. Men should try to discover all the hidden attributes of God which are not revealed in any religious books,not even in Torah. In my personal opinion Jews should be perceived and understood in the right perspectives and allowed to be a teacher for peace, prosperity,righteousness,goodness and justice for all concerned,jews and gentiles, because they are blessed and protected by God, Almighty.

Posted by: Mr.Hariprasad Bhusal at April 17, 2005 04:14 AM (AhA2Q)

10 i just dont understand why people hate jews so much. whats one reason why? i dont get it.

Posted by: saso at May 02, 2005 02:19 PM (K7XjK)

11 I think some people are stupid enough not to understand why "Others" hate jews so much. Look at the history of ancient Egypt, long time before they became an arabs and accepted islam they were treated very bad by jews. Jews were stealing their wheat fields and waiting till egyptians start starving they would re-sell that wheat to "real" owners! They've been always smart enough to fool people and get on the top position! Have you seen a jew working as a taxi driver? Or some kind of servant? NEVER! they would never let themself to have a shitty job. Go to every bank and ask who is the manager? of course jew. Would you let jews to come over your motherland and take all over it? get all good positions? Of course not! I believe that there should be reason that germans hated jews, and not only jews. majority of worlds money is under their control. There are so many reasons. Why instead of being modest they think they are special nation? And they like to show it so much. I am christian and I dont like jews because they are greedy!

Posted by: Christina at May 09, 2005 10:59 AM (TagNI)

12 France is far lower than Russia or Germany. I find it hard to see why you put it joint second other than the usual fatuous French-bashing.

Posted by: santori at May 14, 2005 03:47 PM (vVsL3)

13 The reason jews dont have shitty jobs is because there hard workers if anyone works hard they can acheive, so why be so jealous of them my best friend is jewish and i love her. The jews have one small state a dot on the map while the arab countries surrond it and they still want more land there greedy fuckers. The media doesn't what goes on in Israel, a judge is someone who listens to both sides of the story and than decides but as there is no media coverage your bond to think like that. The suicide bombers are the arabs killing innocent jews and innocent people. If you got to accuse anyone accuse the arabs there the ones who cause the trouble they want to take over the world.

Posted by: denise at May 15, 2005 03:54 PM (NXpgd)

14 Hi Denise, You do have a point, I was very pro Arab untill I researched a bit into the jewish religion. I was at uni and there was an arab girl she was trying to turn everyone against the jews and started up Isslam groups. The jewish people are the ones who achieve and anyone can turn jewish so i dnt understand why everyone is so judgemental, there not a race there normal people and after everything they went through they still remain.....!

Posted by: perla at May 15, 2005 04:00 PM (NXpgd)

15 i swear that palestine used to belong to the jews until it was invaded by the roman and then ottoman empires? so i dont see what all those wars are about...the land is theirs fair and square. and as for the fact that jews tend to have such prestigious and well-paid jobs, it is, i agree, all down to hard work. not like some arabs i know who sit on their fat asses all day watching al jazeera tv,smokin sheesha and getting up occasionally to receive their benefits and/or income support.

Posted by: blablabla at May 16, 2005 04:31 PM (Lm0Q0)

16 Hate ALl Fucking Jews. Jews are the cause of all problems in the world. Hail Hitler!!!88

Posted by: Jim Minor at May 17, 2005 06:59 PM (dRJAE)

17 YOU SICK BASTARD HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT, YOU MUST BE ARAB. ARABS ARE TAKING OVER THE WORLD WHERE EVER THERE ARE HOLLY PLACES THEY CLAIM ITS HOLY FOR THE EG, HOLLY WALL FOR THE JEWS WHERE THE TEMPLE WAS THEY PLANT THERE MOSQUE THERE, HINI PEOPLE IN IND, THEY PLANT THERE MOSQUE THERE. THEY DESERVE TO DIE AND JEWS DESERVE THE BEST AFTER WHAT THEY SUFFERED.

Posted by: dave at May 26, 2005 03:40 PM (kCmAr)

18 The reason Jews are hated are many, but mainly three: 1) they're a closed and somehow isolated group, who did not have a nation for centuries, so they were and are convenient scapegoats for just about every problem. Come on, there is growing anti-semitism even in Germany, where after nazism remained less than 1% of jews there, how can you seriously believe that they are responsible for any problem? 2) they value hard work and achievement, and in this sense achieve more than other cultures more prone to violence or fanaticism or self-delusion. Many great artists or scientists were Jews. Coincidence? I think not. And envy is a very common source of hate. 3) There are a lot of idiots out there, who become fascinated with nazi fashion (their kitsch uniforms and gestures, their kitsch propaganda) and having no idea of History or Reality, think they're doing something "cool" imitating nazis. Poor idiots. In a real nazi state, they would probably be thrown in sanatories for the mentally ill and then gassed.

Posted by: Mr Jack at June 02, 2005 02:38 AM (dqkH/)

19 Ahh, the old religious debate. 1) No one will EVER win a debate about religion. We all have our beliefs and have taken sides depending upon what information we've been told and how just/unjust we feel it to be at the time. I've heard so much information from all sides in my lifetime (Jew/Muslim/Christian) that all it does is give me a headache trying to work out who is doing wrong to whom. 2) Sorry guys, but it's obvious that not one of you have really looked at the facts here and cannot argue what you don't know about. If you want to argue the facts about Palestine and who it 'belongs' to, then read it in detail here - http://www.ifamericansknew.org/history/. This is the reality - like it or not. 3) Something I've always wondered is, when someone asks where you are from, what do you say? Why is it that Jewish people always reply that they are Jewish when it's not a place, it's a religion? Being Jewish could mean you're from Russia, Germany, Hungary, Poland, Israel, South Africa, the USA...anywhere. Why not say that instead of your religion? Strange. I don't know of any other religion that 'trains' their followers to answer in this way. 4) I once asked a Rabbi (no, not a Rabbit - RABBI) why it was that Jewish people (even my closest friends) wanted to squeeze every last drop of $ from you when they did business with you. It was frustrating and annoying and always left a bad taste in my mouth. He replied: "thousands of years ago, the Jews had ALL of the world's wealth. It was taken from them and ever since, we've always been taught it still belongs to us, so our natural instinct in business is to try and get it back, leaving little, if nothing for anyone else." Of course I can see his point, but talk about burning bridges everywhere you go. That explains a LOT! And my last little gem of the day - like it or not, Jews and Muslims are VERY closely related in their traditions, beliefs and mindset. Take a good look at the religious holidays, prayer times, dress code, the place of women and TOLERANCE in either religion. VERY similar if not sometimes identical. As a matter of fact, I don't know why they even give the two religions a different name! So let's not start another war over something so trivial and focus on bringing an end to what has already been going on for centuries. Only now though, they're using much deadlier weapons with CNN watching. J

Posted by: JohnJohn at June 08, 2005 08:23 PM (T24Gm)

20 Most Americans are not aware how much of their tax revenue our government sends to Israel. For the fiscal year ending in September 30, 1997, the U.S. has given Israel $6.72 billion: $6.194 billion falls under Israel's foreign aid allotment and $526 million comes from agencies such as the Department of Commerce, the U.S. Information Agency and the Pentagon. The $6.72 billion figure does not include loan guarantees and annual compound interest totalling $3.122 billion the U.S. pays on money borrowed to give to Israel. It does not include the cost to U.S. taxpayers of IRS tax exemptions that donors can claim when they donate money to Israeli charities. (Donors claim approximately $1 billion in Federal tax deductions annually. This ultimately costs other U.S. tax payers $280 million to $390 million.) When grant, loans, interest and tax deductions are added together for the fiscal year ending in September 30, 1997, our special relationship with Israel cost U.S. taxpayers over $10 billion. Since 1949 the U.S. has given Israel a total of $83.205 billion. The interest costs borne by U.S. tax payers on behalf of Israel are $49.937 billion, thus making the total amount of aid given to Israel since 1949 $133.132 billion. This may mean that U.S. government has given more federal aid to the average Israeli citizen in a given year than it has given to the average American citizen. The Israeli government and military receive $15,139,178* from the U.S. every day; Palestinian NGOÂ’s receive $232,290** from the U.S. each day. Put things in perspective anyone???

Posted by: JohnJohn at June 09, 2005 11:58 AM (T24Gm)

21 Without the West I am sure that Israel would not exist today. You have to understand that the USA is run by Jews, they pull the strings and make most of the decisions. So what were you saying about financial and military aid? Oh yes, the Palestinians get some money also, that could though be called window dressing....

Posted by: J.Walker at June 20, 2005 06:57 AM (NNoFy)

22 I think Israel would excist today, the jews went through the holocaust and look where they are today it seems that they are strongest religion even though there is not many of them anymore, they seem to suffer and yet go on. The romans tried to destroy them, the Germans tried and now the Arabs are trying but they are the chossen people and we should respect that. WE ARE ALL HUMANS AND SHOULD RESPECT EACHOHER BUT NOT ANIMALS LIKE ARABS!

Posted by: danni at June 21, 2005 07:13 PM (Ibtyw)

23 How dare u call arabs anaimals, for every jew killed jews have killed 20 arabs. I have dated many jewish girls and let me say even they know its true. Israel uses America they run almost all the government in the U.S, all the media and have a group called the free maisions which at least the last three presidents of the us have been. The jews have used america to get all the Christian countrys around the world involved in there problems. Once Israel is removed watched the world settle down, israel is basicly a bunch of murders jews are just leaches there weak but they control the strong we mustn't let them countinue to exist. Arabs have there faults but compared to the jews there angels.

Posted by: Here at July 11, 2005 08:15 AM (y8/BH)

24 Tell me why did the middle east with an exception of israil start hating america.... why did it start... for no reason? Because there white? no.... Jews The middle east know that america is controlled by jews and that september 11 was planned by israil, why else would not 1 jew die in september 11? they all happened not to show up, they claim some jewish holiday... how convinent, jews did it america cant u c. u wanna know y u cant find osama... He's in Fucking Israil! and i promise u if they claim 2 find him it wont be hom just a stunt 2 try and fool the world. jews are the cause of all evil

Posted by: once a jew converted to islam at July 11, 2005 08:22 AM (y8/BH)

25 Why do u think jews are hated so much......through the hole of history jews have been hated. they are cruel stingy and using people. they think there better than every 1 else and they kill middle eastern children

Posted by: bj at July 11, 2005 08:29 AM (y8/BH)

26 jews should die. they should all be shot and hung fuck jews there filth and child killers. Bring on the black army and destroy israel it will be done sooner or later

Posted by: hg at July 11, 2005 09:37 AM (y8/BH)

27 Fuckin israel racist pricks all jews hate black people they should all be killed. Jews are racist pigs who hate gays blacks arabs and any1 who isnt jewish fuckin filthy jews only good to put in the oven. meckain jew perfection put in oven at 200 degrees and bake till there nothing left

Posted by: Black girl at July 11, 2005 09:41 AM (y8/BH)

28 J.Walker ur a dick the jews r weak they do need some one else like the christians who are strong to survive. The christians and muslems should team up and wipe out the jews

Posted by: Gay jews at July 11, 2005 09:44 AM (y8/BH)

29 "The uniqueness of anti-Semitism lies in the fact that no other people in the world have ever been charged simultaneously with alienation from society and with cosmopolitanism, with being capitalistic exploiters and also revolutionary communist advocators. The Jews were accused of having an imperious mentality, at the same time they're a people of the book. They're accused of being militant aggressors, at the same time as being cowardly pacifists. With being a Chosen people, and also having an inferior human nature. With both arrogance and timidity. With both extreme individualism and community adherence. With being guilty of the crucifixion of Jesus and at the same time held to account for the invention of christianity."

Posted by: copy and pasted at July 12, 2005 09:32 PM (QqIRv)

30 Historians have classified six explanations as to why people hate the Jews: Economic -- "We hate Jews because they possess too much wealth and power." Chosen People -- "We hate Jews because they arrogantly claim that they are the chosen people." Scapegoat -- "Jews are a convenient group to single out and blame for our troubles." Deicide -- "We hate Jews because they killed Jesus." Outsiders -- "We hate Jews because they are different than us." (The dislike of the unlike.) Racial Theory -- "We hate Jews because they are an inferior race."

Posted by: copy and pasted at July 12, 2005 09:35 PM (QqIRv)

31 Jews r soooo fuckin dirty!!!!! every1 hates the fuckin Jews! the bastard jews cause trouble where ever they fuckin go! that's why they get chucked out 4rm every bleedin country!!!! well do u wat? i'm fuckin glad they got killed in Germany! it serves them fuckin right! Jerusalem has always belonged 2 the Muslims and Christians!but then when the fuckin jews got chucked out 4rm where ever they bleedin came 4m! so they came 2 Jerusalem and the Muslims and christians were bein dead nice 2 em and the muslims and christians gave them a land called bleedin Isreal! but like i say it's in the fuckin jewish blood 2 cause trouble!!! so they stole the whole of Jerusalem 4rm the Muslims and Christians! and started 2 claim it was fuckin theirs!!!! and now they still fuckin causin trouble! they're killin all the Muslims and Christians in Jerusalem!!!!!! The mother fuckin jews r tryin 2 rule the world, well as u can c they're rulin America! but they're obviously not suceedin anywhere else! The fuckin Jews r greedy pigs, fraudsters!,trouble makers,weirdoz,freaks,mingers etc 1 day the Muslims and Christians will show the fuckin jews wat they're made of! and Jerusalem will belong 2 the Christians and Muslims like it always did!!!!!!!! The fuckin Jews r killin the Christians and Muslims all over the world! just like the bastard jews killed our Jesus!!!!!! well the time will come when we'll get our own back!!!! can't wait!

Posted by: Sk8rgirl at July 14, 2005 08:25 AM (siFAl)

32 Jews r soooo fuckin dirty!!!!! every1 hates the fuckin Jews! the bastard jews cause trouble where ever they fuckin go! that's why they get chucked out 4rm every bleedin country!!!! well do u know wat? i'm fuckin glad they got killed in Germany! it serves them fuckin right! Jerusalem has always belonged 2 the Muslims and Christians!but then when the fuckin jews got chucked out 4rm where ever they bleedin came 4rm! so they came 2 Jerusalem and the Muslims and christians were bein dead nice 2 em and the muslims and christians gave them a land called bleedin Isreal! but like i say it's in the fuckin jewish blood 2 cause trouble!!! so they stole the whole of Jerusalem 4rm the Muslims and Christians! and started 2 claim it was fuckin theirs!!!! and now they still fuckin causin trouble! they're killin all the Muslims and Christians in Jerusalem!!!!!! The mother fuckin jews r tryin 2 rule the world, well as u can c they're rulin America! but they're obviously not suceedin anywhere else! The fuckin Jews r greedy pigs, fraudsters!,trouble makers,weirdoz,freaks,mingers etc 1 day the Muslims and Christians will show the fuckin jews wat they're made of! and Jerusalem will belong 2 the Christians and Muslims like it always did!!!!!!!! The fuckin Jews r killin the Christians and Muslims all over the world! just like the bastard jews killed our Jesus!!!!!! well the time will come when we'll get our own back!!!! can't wait!

Posted by: sk8rgirl at July 14, 2005 09:02 AM (siFAl)

33 to all anti israel, anti semits and all the other stupid creatures like muslims, it wont help u, nothing will extinct us , jews , from this world , indeed we shit on u fucking racist, if u think that history will repeat and jews will be again garbege of someone , guess again... u r so wrong and your fucking mama that gave u life too. the state of israel a master pice that the jews created after 2000 years in exile in just 60 years , the strong army , the strong economy , every thing in israel is great,and was made only thanks for the jews ,no favores from any one else.indeed we resive 3.5 bilion dollars a year from the usa of america, but just like eygept with 3 bilion ,and many other countries in the world so fuck u all stupids,indeed go to school and learn,maybe becouse of your lack of brain and the fact that u dont know any fact (poetry) make u look like u r looking like.for the arabs criminals that r comming and blowing people away is like muskito bites its nothing ,dont be glad , they wont come forever ,and after we will finish dealing with them i am garantting to all of u fuckers that we will come after u garbege shit, and than we will make soap from u like u did to us 60 years ago... its a promise.

Posted by: we will live forever!!! at July 24, 2005 08:57 PM (whmdG)

34 JEWS R THE FRIGGIN TERRORISTS! ALWAYS AV BEEN AND ALWAYS WILL B JEWS R TROUBLEMAKERS! JEWS R THE CRIMINALS! FUCK U BASTARD JEWS! ISREALIS R FUCKIN STUPID,WEIRD AND BLEEDIN MENTAL!!! THE FUCKIN ISREALIS R KILLIN THE CHRISTIANS AND MUSLIMS AROUND THE WORLD 4 NO FUCKIN REASON!!!!!!!!! JEWS R MURDERERS!!!!!!! THE CHRISTIANS AND MUSLIMS R INNOCENT!!!!!!!!! jews stink! I'M GLAD THAT THE JEWS GOT CHUCKED OUT 4RM GERMANY! IT SERVES THEM RIGHT! WELL,ONE DAY THE CHRISTIANS AND MUSLIMS WILL GET RID OF THE BASTARD JEWS! THE CHRISTIANS AND MUSLIMS WILL RULE ISREAL JUST LIKE THEY'RE ALWAYS DID! WE WILL COME AFTER THE FRIGGIN JEWS! AND WE'LL GET RID OF THEM! just like they did b4! U'LL C!

Posted by: WE WILL WIN! AND WE WILL GET RID OF THE JEWS!!!!! at July 28, 2005 10:04 AM (siFAl)

35 YOU SCREWED UP PEOPLE ARE YOU BLIND OR JUST IGNORANT? WHO ARE CAUSING ALL THE PROBLEMS IN THE WORLD, THE FLIPIN ARABS. THEY WANT TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD AND WIPE OUT JEWS AS WELL AS CHRISTIANS, CAN YOU NOT SEE IT HAPPENING??? JEWS GET WIPED OUT FROM EVERY COUNTRY BUT WE ALWAYS MANAGE TO SURVIVE SO HATE US, BUT WE HAVE G-D TO PROTECT US....

Posted by: yael at August 01, 2005 07:36 AM (wFMfh)

36 chrisyst was a fucking dirty jew , hes disgusting disgrace to humanity. YE WE ARE GOING TO WIPE ALL YOU MOTHER FUCKERS OUT U DUMB FUCK, YE CARRY ON HATING US , IT WILL FUEL TO WHAT EXTENT WE ARE GOING TO TORTURE UR DIRTY HORRIBLE CANCEROUS CHILDREN U ARE NOTHING BUT FLESH AND BLOOD, U HAVE NO SPIRIT, BUT EVEN FLESH AND BLOOD WE WILL NOT ALLOW YOU. THE TIME WILL COME WHEN YOU PARASITES WILL BE GONE !!. TRY AND DESTROY US WE HAVE NUKES AND WILL USE THEM AND NUKE YOU BEFORE WE WILL GO DOWN . CRYST WAS A JEW A FUCKING JEW A DIRTY JEW AND ALL THE GOSPELS WERE JEWS THEY ARE A DISGRACE , CHRIST IS A MOTHER FUKING DISGRACE MAY HIS SOUL BE CURSED FOR ALL OF ETERNITY. HIS JEWISH SOUL IS CANCEROUS AND MUST BE ELIMINATED FOR EXISTENCE. YOU STUPID FUCKS YOURE OWN LEADER IS JEWISH UR SO DUMB U DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR SAYING U FOOLS, NO WONDER WE CALL YOU FOOLS YOU ARE TRUELY A BUNCH OF DUMB IGNORAMOUSES. Your basic instict is to hate jews and you cant controll it because your animals, your are only one level off animals but even that i would say is an overestimated view. The time will come (very soon) when you will all kill each other arabs and edomites (dumbases), and we will be supreme, and use ur dirty children as slaves and get revenge for what you did too us over the ages. NOTHING GOES UNPUNISHED BY THE LORD KING OF THE UNIVERSE THE ONE WHOME WE WILL DIE FOR AND KILL ALL OF YOU FOR ASWELL. Yours sincerly a christian convert to the religion of JUDIASM.

Posted by: Ben winnick at August 01, 2005 07:54 AM (wFMfh)

37 FELLOW MUSLIMS , do not be sucked up by the christians trying to be ''freinds'' with us. We have no freinds apart from fellow muslims. Do not be scared when the day calls to rise up and slaughter both the JEW and the christians. It is the christians who are the true enemy of G-D they have idolised sex and lust, the jews have followed them like fools and have assimilated to what extent they can. The chiristians must be punished for this abomination against ALAH. They must be anhilated first and then we can deal with jokobites. The chirstians are the enemy of G_D and their views of ''democracy''. Rise up in the aid of ISLAM

Posted by: Abdull hantisis at August 01, 2005 08:16 AM (wFMfh)

38 Ben winnic you are a truely mad !!!. I am a religious jew and i know everyone hates us but thats because of us it says in the bible similarly '' If you take me casualy (G_D), i will exile you among the nations and they will surely hate you''. The hate in peoples hearts is divine you cannot change it !!!. They follow it because they are degenerates and cannot help it, the clever people also feel provocation to hate jews yet are clever enough to repress this thought. When i get a anti semite comment on the street because of my Kipa , I smile and look down and Thank G_D that he gave me a chance to atone for my sins through embarasment. The assimilate jews in the USA is the problem they believe by assimilating they can be like them. If only they know it is only G_D that we should imitate and not the dirt of humanity. We have been punished through the ages because of our own sins yet we never learn the lesson and carry on sining. Ben winnik i advise you remove the hate from your heart if you want to become a jew and replace it with love for all of humanity even the person who hates you with all his heart. G_D bless all and have a good day. SHALOM PEACE> !!!

Posted by: I am a jew ben winnick go back to christianity at August 01, 2005 08:24 AM (wFMfh)

39 WHO'S RULIN THE WORLD 2DAY? THE FRIGGIN JEWS!!!!! THE FUCKIN JEWS R TRYIN 2 TAKE OVER THE BLEEDIN WORLD! THEY'RE ALREADY RULIN AMERICA AND JERUSALEM! THE JEWS R THE 1'S THAT R CAUSIN THE FRIGGIN WARS! JESUS WAS A JEW! BUT HE WAS A TRUE JEW! NOT LIKE THE JEWS 2DAY! JUDAISM HAS CHANGED! THE BLEEDIN JEWS HAVE CHANGED IT! SO IT'S NOT A TRUE RELIGION ANYMORE! ISREALIS R THE FUCKIN TERRORISTS! AND THE BLEEDIN JEWS R MURDERERS! ALWAYS HAVE BEEN AND ALWAYS WILL BE!!! THE JEWS R THE BLEEDIN ANIMALS! THE JEWS R THE WEIRDOZ! THE JEWS CALL THEMSELVES THE CHOSEN PEOPLE! CHOSEN PEOPLE? MY ARSE! MORE LIKE CHOSEN 2 KILL AND CAUSE TROUBLE! I'M NOT SURPRISED NO1 LIKES THE JEWS! BCOZ THEY'RE FILTHY!AND THEY'RE FREAKS!

Posted by: JEWS R THE ONES THAT R CAUSIN PROBLEMS ALL OVER THE WORLD! at August 02, 2005 06:30 AM (siFAl)

40 YEAH YOU MUST BE A MUSSLIM, U DICKHEAD COS THE JEWS AREN'T THE ONES WHO ARE SUICIDE BOMBERS ITS THE ARABS WHO DO THE JEWS KILL NO ONE, IF SOMEONE STARTS THEY ATTACK BACK. WOULDN'T YOU ATTACK BACK IF SOMEONE STARTED? THE ARABS ARE THE ONES WHO ARE BRAINWASHED FROM AN EARLY AGE AND TAUGHT THAT IF THEY ARE SUICIDE BOMBERS THEY GET SENT TO HEAVEN. WHO ARE THE ONES WHO BHOMB EVERY COUNTRY THE ANIMALS CALLED ARABS WHO ARE EVIL AND SICK AND WHO WANT TO TAKE OVER THE FUCKING WORLD. WATCH YOUR BACK IT AINT THE JEWS IS ITS THE ARABS!!!!!!!!

Posted by: samj at August 02, 2005 10:38 AM (ffdlM)

41 Most if not all americans are enraged about the 9/11 attacks. Now take that hatred and apply it to the Palastinians, Heck I'd hate you too if you came to my land, stole it, stole my house, my business, and life. Wouldnt you? Ohh, and by the way, if I were you ppl, I'd sit down and investigate the fact why 4,000 some Jewish/Israeli people who worked at the twin towers were missing 9/11. I mean, there is so much evidence spread around the so called "homes of the hijackers", it looks like a cheap, low budget detective movie. And as soon as this happened, that old fart Sharon called and said "Israel has the answer". Hello people, get a frikkin clue, It's a conspiracy to make a certain people look bad. Investigate it for yourselves if you dont believe me!!!!!

Posted by: JEWS R THE TERRORISTS! at August 02, 2005 10:59 AM (siFAl)

42 omg you stupid ediots! all of you ! we r ALL HUMAN just because we belive in a different faith or come from a different country doesnt mean we have 2 h8 eachother I WANNA TALK SOME SENSE INTO ALL OF YOU!

Posted by: david cosher at August 02, 2005 11:01 AM (ffdlM)

43 DAVID COSHER IS RIGHT!

Posted by: YES at August 02, 2005 11:04 AM (ffdlM)

44 Well exuce me but y does every1 h8 jews im a cristian and i belive that jews hav suffered alot! first egyipt Then spain then Germany what the hell is rong with u people

Posted by: STIRONE at August 02, 2005 11:11 AM (ffdlM)

45 IM A JEW AND I LOVE BLACKS, well i did until they called me a fuking jew!

Posted by: bn at August 02, 2005 11:17 AM (ffdlM)

46 BACK TO CRISTINA'S POINT IF U SCROLL UP- well fuk u cos wen u go 2 israel there r LOADS OF taxi drivers! fuk off u bitch go bak 2 i h8 jews land cos ull c wen moshhhhiach comes he will kill u! u just rememba what im saying now

Posted by: gfju at August 02, 2005 11:20 AM (ffdlM)

47 THE BASTARD JEWS R THE 1'S THAT R ROBBIN EVER1Y! THEY'RE THE FUCKIN TERRORISTS! EVEN THE JEWS KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOIN IN ISREAL IS WRONG! http://www.netureikarta.org/ http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com Israelis r racist, MURDERERS, thieving, hideous freaks- therefore I hate em- they're evil! DEATH 2 JUDAISM! THE CHRISTIANS AND MUSLIMS R GETTIN KILLED BY THE ISREALIS ALL OVER THE FRIGGIN WORLD! SO DO YA THINK THAT THE CHRISTIANS AND MUSLIMS R JUST GONNA STAND THERE AND WATCH EVERY1 GET KILLED? I DON'T THINK SO! THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY GONNA DO SUMMAT! DUH! WHO R THE 1'S THAT KILLED JESUS? BLEEDIN jews!!!!

Posted by: jews r murderers! ALWAYS AV BEEN AND ALWAYS WILL B at August 02, 2005 11:28 AM (siFAl)

48 OMG UR RASIST SAYING THAT BOUT THE JEWS !!!!!!!!! YOUR GONNA BURN IN HELL U BASTARD!

Posted by: henny at August 02, 2005 01:43 PM (ffdlM)

49 YOU MUPPETS OPEN YOUR EYES THE ARABS ARE THE ONES WHO ARE BOMBING AND SPREADING ISLAM AROUND!!!!!!11

Posted by: joey at August 03, 2005 05:52 AM (2Gkuw)

50 DUH!!! U BLIND FUCKERS! OPEN UR EYES!!!!!!!! WHO'S TAKIN OVER THE WORLD? THE JEWS! WHO'S CAUSIN ALL THE WARS? THE JEWS! WHY DO YA THINK THAT THE JEWS GOT EXPELLED 4RM MOST OF THE EUROPEAN COUNTRIES? COZ THEY'RE NOT PEOPLE! THEY'RE ANIMALS! ALL THEY DO IS CAUSE TROUBLE AND TRY AND TAKE OVER EVERYTHING!

Posted by: BURN IN HELL JEWS! at August 03, 2005 07:18 AM (siFAl)

51 ISREALIS R THE FRIGGIN TERRORIST! U JUST AV 2 LUK AT ISREAL 2 KNOW THAT! THE JEWS R THE FRIGGIN 1'S THAT R KILLIN THE CHRISTIANS AND THE MUSLIMS! THE CHRISTIANS AND THE MUSLIMS R THE INNOCENT 1'S! GO ON:community.webshots.com/album/69692851YfBkOk IF YA DON'T BELIEVE ME!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: ISREALIS R THE TERRORIST! at August 03, 2005 10:38 AM (siFAl)

52 I am a arab, i will give you the truth, You lot dont know anything, we are brainwashed from a young age and get taught to hate jews and christians anyone who is not like us. We want to spread islam around the world. I HATE MY RELIGION!

Posted by: saham at August 03, 2005 11:12 AM (2Gkuw)

53 I DONT GET WHY YOU PEOPLE ARE AGAINST THE JEWS ALL MY FRIENDS ARE JEWISH THERE THE NICEST PEOPLE YOU LOT SHOULD GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT. They are strongest religion around after the holocaust, they pulled through and rebuilt there lives. Only unhuman people can do what the nazis did and talk like you lot do.

Posted by: NAT at August 03, 2005 11:20 AM (2Gkuw)

54 I AGREE i have to say i like jews but i hate those ARABS THERE DISEASED MOTHER FUCKERS WHO BOMB AND KILL PEOPLE TO GET INTO POWER I DONT SEE JEWS DOING THAT.

Posted by: josh at August 03, 2005 11:25 AM (2Gkuw)

55 YOU IDIOTS SEPT 11TH, WAS A JEWISH HOLIDAY THATS WHY NOT MANY JEWS GOT KILLED COS THEY DIDN'T WORK THAT DAY. WHO DID THE BOMB NOT THE JEWS THE ARABS. ISRAEL IS SURRONDED BY ALL THOSE ARAB COUNTRYS AND THERE A DOT IN THE MAP.

Posted by: ALAN at August 03, 2005 11:29 AM (2Gkuw)

56 Yeah i feel sorry for Israel what country do the jews have hardly anything a bit of land, while the arabs have loads of country and they even want to takeover Israel, what country will the jews have than?

Posted by: jess at August 04, 2005 04:04 AM (BtJjY)

57 Israel is mentioned in the torah loads of times, how many times is it mentioned in the koran=none. The torah was written thousands of years ago so it is our land and were not giving anymore land to the Arabs. WERE SUCCESSFULL PEOPLE AND YOU OT ARE JEALOUS.

Posted by: jon at August 07, 2005 08:24 AM (gA6Kc)

58 JEWS WAKE UP YOU ARE HATED AROUND THE WORLD. WHY BECAUSE YOU TRY AND BE LIKE THE DIRT LIKE THE CHRISTIANS WHO AHTE YOU AND ALWAYS WILL HATE YOU. LOOK AT THIS FORUM THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE HATE YOUR GUTS. YOU ARE DEALING WITH STUPID FOOLS WHO DONT EVEN KNOW THAT JESUS WAS A JEW. THEY ARE STUPID INFERIOR, STOP TRYING TO BE LIKE THEM AND INSTEAD TRY TO IMITATE THE LORD G-D KING. When we are united we are unstopable look at 1948 6 arab armys agains a guerillla force everybody though we were about to be wiped out. WE WON THANKS TO G-D. Look at 1967 5 highly eqipeed armys outnumbered us 7-1 . We won again and conquered JERUSALEM> The end is coming revenge against these pathalogical parasites will be sweet and will truely indulge together as one. '' DO NOT PUT YOU TRUST IN MORTAL MAN WHOS PLAN GOES WHEN HE DIES, PUT YOUR TRUST IN THE IMORTAL G-D WHO TOOK US OUT OF EGYPT''. DOU NOT UNDERSTAND WE DONT NEED ANY ''FREIND'' WE ONLY NEED OUR G-D. WE HAVE NEVER PUT OUR TRUST IN G-D, ONLY WHEN WE WERE FORCED TOO IT IS TIME TO CHANGE, BECAUSE THE END IS SOON. TO ALL THE JEW HATERS YOU ARE DOING GOOD CARRY ON PLEASE IT HELPS US STAY MORE UNITED. P.S the Gemara says a goy (non jew) wanted to convert to Judaism)he called up the soul of 4 people to see weather he should convert , one was titus, the other crist, and the other nebacheneser. 2 of which destroyeed our temples and one killed millions of jews through rebeling against the sages. He asked them all should i become a jew, titus and nebachenzer said hate jews you will be big and mighty in material world, but you are horror in this world. Jesxs said become a jew you will be great in both worlds. ONE thing I DONT UNDERSTAND ABOUT CHRISTIANITY IF MARY WAS A VIRGIN THEN HOW COMES HIS SUPPESED DAD IS JOSEPH. YOUR SO STUPID YOU DONT EVEN THINK OF THESE THINGS, FOOOOOOOOOLS YOU WILL PAY FOR YOUR HORRORS SOONER OR LATER EVERYONE DIES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: JEW WHO HAS HAS ENOUGH!! at August 07, 2005 08:54 AM (gA6Kc)

59 Pour forth Your fury upon them and let Your burning wrath overtake them. Pursue them with anger and destroy them from beneath the heavens of the Lord." My God! What to think! What do the gentiles in the room think?! What a litany of anger, and above all, vengeance! An open prayer and call for the Almighty to avenge Himself upon the nations, to destroy them for what they did to Israel! Is this Judaism? And did not the "rabbi", the temple paragon of Jewish wisdom, the fount of Jewish knowledge admonish us that Jews oppose vengeance, that it is not a "Jewish" concept? And is that not why we are supposed to feel ashamed at the conduct of the Israeli army? And, above all, what will John and Kathy, the gentile neighbors think about the Jews? About us? Ah, poor Jews; sad little Jews. Conceived in ignorance and born in Jewish know-nothingness. Raised in Jeffersonian and Kennedyian democracy and all the westernized, gentilized culture that is American, and lied to and deceived and defrauded by secular Jewish ignoramuses-leaders, and Reform-Conservative-Reconstructionist ones; people whose ignorance is so awesome that only their fraud surpasses it. The fraud that was created by the counterfeiters of Judaism is astonishingly awesome. They lied to the Jew because they could not bear to admit the truth to themselves. Vengeance. Un-Jewish? If so, let us cast out the Bible and Talmud as "Un-Jewish..." "The Lord is a God of vengeance; O God of Vengeance, arise!" (Psalms 94). And the rabbis say: "Yes when vengeance is needed, it is a great thing" (Brachot 3a). "The righteous shall rejoice when he sees vengeance, he shall wash his feet in the blood of the wicked." (Psalms 5 And why? For it is only vengeance that proves that there is a God in the world, there is Good and Evil and punishment for that evil. When the wicked kill and injustice reigns, surely the wicked cry out, "There is no God, for if there was, He would punish me." And the victim, in his agony, agrees. When there is no vengeance and punishment and the wicked reign, God is pushed from His throne; it is the greatest Hillul Hashem extant, it is "proof" that there is no God. And that is why the chapter of Psalms (ibid) concludes, following the cry for rejoicing over vengeance: "And men shall say: 'Verily, there is a reward for the righteous; verily, there is a God that judges in the earth.' " Passover. A holiday that was created to commemorate the sanctity of vengeance; the punishment and destruction of Pharaoh and Egypt that mocked and humiliated God by crying: "Who is the Lord? I know not the Lord..." Vengeance for the suffering and murder of Jews. Vengeance so that the world shall know the Lord and cry, "Verily, there is a God that judges in the earth..." There is no help for it. Passover is a holiday of sanctification of God's Name. Of vengeance against the wicked. If the temple rabbi is unhappy, let him stop templing. If the gentile neighbor will be embarrassed, do not invite him. If the Jew is troubled, let him hie himself to the House of Study, a genuine one, and learn real Judaism. Then he will celebrate Passover the proper way, the Jewish way, "Pour forth Your wrath.."

Posted by: Abdull hantisis at August 07, 2005 09:08 AM (gA6Kc)

60 Dear World, It Appears That You Are Hard To Please. I understand that you are upset over us, here in Israel. Indeed, it appears that you are quite upset, even angry and outraged? Indeed, every few years you seem to become upset over us. Today, it is the brutal repression of the Palestinians; yesterday, it was Lebanon; before that it was the bombing of the nuclear reactor in Baghdad and the Yom Kippur War campaign. It appears that Jews who triumph and who, therefore, live, upset you most extraordinarily. Of course, dear world, long before there was an Israel, we, the Jewish people - upset you. We upset a German people who elected a Hitler and we upset an Austrian people who cheered his entry into Vienna and we upset a whole slew of Slavic nations - Poles, Slovaks, Lithuanians, Ukrainians, Russians, Hungarians, Romanians. And we go back a long, long way in the history of world upset. We upset the Cossacks of Chmielnicki who massacred tens of thousands of us in 1648-49; we upset the Crusaders who, on their way to liberate the Holy Land, were so upset at Jews that they slaughtered untold numbers of us. We upset, for centuries, a Roman Catholic Church that did its best to define our relationship through Inquisitions. And we upset the arch-enemy of the Church, Martin Luther, who, in his call to burn the synagogues and the Jews within them, showed an admirable Christian ecumenical spirit. It is because we became so upset over upsetting you, dear world, that we decided to leave you - in a manner of speaking - and establish a Jewish State. The reasoning was that living in close contact with you, as resident-strangers in the various countries that comprise you, we upset you, irritate you, disturb you. What better notion, then, than to leave you and thus love you - and have you love us? And so we decided to come home - to the same homeland from which we were driven out 1,900 years earlier by a Roman world that, apparently, we also upset. Alas, dear world, it appears that you are hard to please. Having left you and your Pogroms and Inquisitions and Crusades and Holocausts, having taken our leave of the general world to live alone in our own little state - we continue to upset you. You are upset that we repress the poor Palestinians. You are deeply angered over the fact that we do not give up the lands of 1967, which are clearly the obstacle to peace in the Middle East. Moscow is upset and Washington is upset. The Arabs are upset and the gentle Egyptian moderates are upset. Well, dear world, consider the reaction of a normal Jew from Israel. In 1920, 1921 and 1929, there were no territories of 1967 to impede peace between Jews and Arabs. Indeed, there was no Jewish State to upset anybody. Nevertheless, the same oppressed and repressed Palestinians slaughtered hundreds of Jews in Jerusalem, Jaffa, Safed and Hebron. Indeed, 67 Jews were slaughtered one day in Hebron - in 1929. Dear world, why did the Arabs - the Palestinians - massacre 67 Jews in one day in 1929? Could it have been their anger over Israeli aggression in 1967? And why were 510 Jewish men, women and children slaughtered in Arab riots in 1936-39? Was it because of Arab upset over 1967? And when you, World, proposed a U.N. Partition Plan in 1947 that would have created a Palestinian State alongside a tiny Israel and the Arabs cried and went to war and killed 6,000 Jews - was that upset stomach caused by the aggression of 1967? And, by the way, dear world, why did we not hear your cry of upset, then? The poor Palestinians who today kill Jews with explosives and firebombs and stones are part of the same people who - when they had all the territories they now demand be given them for their state - attempted to drive the Jewish State into the sea. The same twisted faces, the same hate, the same cry of "idbah-al-yahud" - "Slaughter the Jews!" that we hear and see today, were seen and heard then. The same people, the same dream - destroy Israel. What they failed to do yesterday, they dream of today - but we should not "repress" them.............. Dear world, you stood by the Holocaust and you stood by in 1948 as seven states launched a war that the Arab League proudly compared to the Mongol massacres. You stood by in 1967 as Nasser, wildly cheered by wild mobs in every Arab capital in the world, vowed to drive the Jews into the sea. And you would stand by tomorrow if Israel were facing extinction. And since we know that the Arabs-Palestinians daily dream of that extinction, we will do everything possible to remain alive in our own land. If that bothers you, dear world, well - think of how many times in the past you bothered us. In any event, dear world, if you are bothered by us, here is one Jew in Israel who could not care less. And now you touch us we will wipe you out with 350 hydrogen bombs enough to destory the world 1.2 times over. soo sorry world but we are untouchable for the moment untill we sin against G_D. HEAVEN FORBID>.

Posted by: EVERY PARASITE READ THIS at August 07, 2005 09:16 AM (gA6Kc)

61 Hi, I was once a Jew but saw the light. I converted to Islam after spending years studying my own religion, Christianity and Islam. I am not sure why Jews think Muslims are speeding Islam. As it is the will of God, there are no missionaries who will Kill you and trick you with leaflets. Such deceitful behaviour does not exist. In the Holy Koran it states that the religion will spread through the world. At the time when there were just a few thousand Muslims. Surly this prophecy has come true. Yet the reason for my conversion was through curiosity in the Prophet Abraham. For years my Father never explained to me that the Arabs and Jews were descendants of the two Sons of Abraham. I had been lied to for years! Truly humans need Laws. I hear freedom and democracy. Yet in Islam there is freedom and democracy but it is balanced. The west has taken everything to the limits and look at the society they have created. Murderers, violence sex offenders. How long before it will all collapse? As far as Jews, I hate not my Family or fellow Jews. But as a Jew who has found Islam, I can only say the truth. The truth is that Jews have created the hatred the Nazi's created in ww2. The truth is Islam. Please Jews donÂ’t hate. For I or Muslims donÂ’t hate you. You are from Egypt not Palestine. I hope Bush the Christian fundamentalist gives you Texas and you leave in Peace and live there forever. You have tried to make the world think how good you are but the truth is you hated Jesus my Prophet (peace be upon him) and the Prophet Mohammed (Peace be upon him) and you were never forgiven. You never will be. You will not destroy the Masque in Jerusalem. Islam has grown by the will of God. I wish my fellow Jews to look closely. For the truth is facing you in the face. Peace be with all.

Posted by: David at August 08, 2005 09:45 PM (z3qsE)

62 Im afraid i cant believe that what you are saying is true, a jew would never turn there back on jews, as its like seeing light and going into dark as you say you have done converting to isslam. I am soproud to be jewish to be in a religion that leads you to be a good person while need i point out, religions talking about death. We are a small yet strong nation the jewish people and the reason for this is we got G-D watching down on us.

Posted by: Yaely at August 09, 2005 03:29 AM (m3Cej)

63 Dear Mr Yaely, If what you say is true, than if you look at the big pictures why is it that Jews have been punished since Jesus (Peace be upon him), I was a Jew, why is it so difficult for you to believe. Just like so many Jews have converted to Chrisianity over the years. There are only 13 million Jews in the World. The only thing the Jews have watching them us the United States. Jews are in congress, Hollywood is owned by the Jews, New York is Jew York. Were ever there is money the Jew will be first in the line. Jews and Arabs are from the same line of family tree. I do not hate Jews. I only want whats good for Jews and Muslims to respect one another. But when you see so much unfairness it is only fair for people like me to speak out. The Bible and the Torah have been changed so many times over the years that the real meaning has now disappeared. The Holy Koran has not been touched since it was revealed to the Prophet Mohammad (Peace be Upon Him). God promised it will not be changed and be protected; look and you will see I speak the truth. When the Prophet Mohammed (Peace be upon him) spoke to the head RabbiÂ’s they converted to the religion and those Rabbis showed their tribes the truth and Islam. Remember in the old testimonies it states that there is only one God. But is it not true that Jews have made Prophets of God comparable to God. God loves those who say there is only ONE God. If you believe in One God, Than Islam is the only true religion. Just one Final point. Has anyone noticed that all this Terrorist finger pointing has occurred since Monkey Boy Bush has come to Power? Can all this be a huge conspiracy by the Christian Fundamentalists who fear that Islam has grown too big and is the Fastest Growing religion! Christianity is declining so they think by marking Muslims as terrorists they will decrease the numbers, but this is a time in history. If Muslims truly follow the word of God, God will always be with us. One correction to all. Jihad is to defend, not to attack. This word "jihad has been used in the wrong context by Americans to make Islam look so frightening. Can Bin Laden really be protected by Bush? Why have they not captured him? The terrorist is the US. Only the Americans have used Nuclear weapons how did the Jews get Nuclear weapons? Peace be upon all.

Posted by: David at August 09, 2005 03:14 PM (z3qsE)

64 Dear David, How much of the jewish religion did u know/practice before u converted to islam? and if u dont mind me asking how did ur family react to ur decision?

Posted by: Natalie at August 10, 2005 06:15 AM (vGa6D)

65 You want proof the Jews are the chosen people, look at our history!! We have been geting wiped out of countrys for the last 2000 years. Surely G_D hates the jews. NO in fact this prooves that we are the chosen people, like you punish a child when he follows the wrong direction, G-d punishes us when we sin. We sin alot !!!. The holacaust occured only after the Reform and Conservatives ''forms of Judaism'', was brought about. This was an abonimation gainst G-d, and the bible curses which are so explicit came to life. ''I will exile you amongst the nations of the four corners of the earth, and you will be hated by the nation, if you sin aginst my Word''. You are a ''holy nation to me forever''. The bible has not !! been changed in the last 2000 years at least , they got a scroll from Yemen and a scroll from poland, in 1949. These comunities have not met for 2000 years since the exile first began. They compared the 2 scrolls and not one difference in any of the writings were evident. Compare this to the christian ''book'', there were 48 difference with 23 of them making a change in the meaning. The koran which you say has not been changed, there was found one recently with 13 changes . The truth is Judaism is the only religion which has experienced national revalation ''the spliting of the sea, the 10 comandments'' . How do we know mohamed had dreams you dont know naything but myths, how do u know jeses did any miracles without black majic which is common practice. We know for a fact that judaism was being kept 3200 years ago through artefacts etc. The TORAH says that it was given 3300 years ago. Thus in the measly 100 years which is even contradicted to a large extent (some say 3300 years), one man had to go to everyone and say there parents and grandpaents have experienced a national revalation, and they had to abide by 613 commandments, and that the TORAH was given only 100 years ago. These people would spit in the guys face and say you are a mad man. Furthermore the TORAH says you will work the land 6 years and allow it to rest on the seventh, ''because it is my land''. on the 6th year G-d assures that everyone will get 3 years worth of crop. Whcih fool who is trying to convince a people to keep this Book, would make such a ludicrous prophecy, which he can defiantly not impliment and would show the book is falsifiable. Indeed when the nation came to the land the 6th year there were huge crops in the land, as documented even by josephus a heritic. The muslim religion when you read the koran flows like a book , because it ws written by mad there are no bible codes in the koran with 1 billion to 1 possibilities like in the TOrah (nazi, hitler, mass destruction) all in the same paragraph in codes. or (flying carrier, 2 towers, crash, and beggining ) all on the same paragraph aswell. You wont find any of this in the koran because it was written by man. It sounds even more divine then the Toorah when you read it , with mad prophecys which cant be proven or the preach of Hate.. It is truely a master piece,, at pone point it nearly convinced me untill it syays ( Abraham was not a jew he was a muslim '' . Ok because muslim relighion was a;read fromed then was it. Sorry David you have the wrong religion . What did it say in the Kabala 1300 years ago when everyone thought the world was flat. ''at 2 points in the world there is laways light and always dark'', ''as you are standing there are people standing below you on the other side of the ground''.. What a bunch of nutters , until columbus came around.. You cant deny it , the jews are siners but we have much more potential then the muslims, because we are the chosen nation. Thats why we have Israel despite the whole worlds hate and iwe will never surrender!!!

Posted by: I will now explain David you have the WRONG religion at August 10, 2005 06:16 AM (TuPjU)

66 David, i think you were never jewish and a pure arab from birth, a jew would rather die than convert to isslam. Next time dont choose such a jewish name as it is so obvious that your a liar. Why is it so easy to convert to isslam, if you want to be a jew it takes years as we are the chossen people and we dont want any converts. We even put people off when they want to convert, but in isslam your desperate for people as you wannt take over the world.

Posted by: Yaely at August 10, 2005 08:11 AM (TuPjU)

67 Yaely You clearly are lost. Like the lost tribe of the Jew. The only reason why you don’t want people to convert into being a Jew is because Jews are so greedy. "As stingy as a Jew”. You even want the next life. Talk about greed. Why on earth would I want people to convert to Islam? There are 1.5 billion Muslims, why would I want to convert anyone? I only wanted to speak of what is happening and how Jews have used America to hide behind its skirt. Like I said its Gods will who he chooses to guide. Stay Jewish, be good, follow the 10 commandments and stop the killing and unfairness in Palestine this is all I ask of Jews. Peace be with all. Thank you and this will be my last reply.

Posted by: David at August 10, 2005 07:36 PM (z3qsE)

68 Dear Yaely/ Natelie You clearly are lost. Like the lost tribe of the Jew. If you examine the earth closely you will see the earth was once one continent. In the Koran God has said that the world was flatened (not flat!) ( being very mountains, and streched). Do you know what the meaning of streched is? do you know what the Gonwanda is? ( Meaning - a composite continent, made up of South America, Africa, Antarctica, India, and Australia, and even at one time included Florida and part of southwest Europe. Have you noticed the whole world is streched? as it states in the Koran? I want to thank Natalie for trying answer my question, beleive me Natalie when I was a Jew (and my family hate me now, but I still feel comfort for them) I was not convinced. I am sorry, I do not want to say any more. But I thank Natalie. Yaely The only reason why you donÂ’t want people to convert into being a Jew is because Jews are so greedy. "As stingy as a Jew". Talk about greed. Why on earth would I want people to convert to Islam? There are 1.5 billion Muslims, why would I want to convert anyone? I only wanted to speak of what is happening and how Jews have used America to hide behind its skirt and the conspiracy of what has happened since Bush has come to power. Like I said its Gods will who he chooses to guide. Stay Jewish, be good, follow the 10 commandments and stop the killing and unfairness in Palestine this is all I ask of Jews. Peace be with all. If you are the chosen people, do you not think God would have made your religeon the biggest in the world, would have have made sure everyone of Gods Servents in this world followed judism. Truly God is Great and the Kingdom of Heaven is vast beyond humon belief. You were given the first revelations, but you could not bear to accept anything else that folowed. Why? If Judism was right and lets not forget judism being 4 thousand years old should have had the biggest followers. But it does not. Your Father amd their Father etc..did not accept the comforter when he came along. Thank you and this will be my last reply. Peace be upon all.

Posted by: David at August 10, 2005 08:09 PM (z3qsE)

69 Dear David,(im not expecting a reply) however i notice that u replied to everyone but "I will now explain David u have the wrong religion" in order to base an argument u must have knowledge on both sides however u dont seem to have any kind of knowledge towards the jewish religion. You cannot base ur argument just on what u know from islam!this leads me to believe u were never jewish otherwise u would have embraced ur religion as opposed to betray it! not to mention the fact that if u had been jewish u would have known that in fact judaism welcomes anyone who truely wants to convert although may make the process challenging! This is not an attack on ur beliefs, however if ur so proud to be islamic dont pretend to be someone else! And if u claim to be the chosen ones, why are u all so scared of the jewish nation such a small religion and yet u all come up with ur bullshit conspiracies of reasons to fear them and how they are taking over the world. Well if thats the case then there must be a stronger force supporting them (G-D perhaps).?

Posted by: Natalie at August 11, 2005 08:39 AM (vGa6D)

70 Dear David, I totally agree with Natalies comments on this matter. We struggle everywhere we go because we are the chosen people and G-D is with us, we are given tests and we always manage to pass, after the holocaust we could of gone the other way and left are religion behind, we went on. Im so proud to be jewish and you arabs should give up now, there is too many arabs and so little jews but we have Israel and you will NEVER GET IT BACK

Posted by: Yaely at August 11, 2005 09:55 AM (cGeZ2)

71 I have to just comment on these animals you call arabs..... let me ask u if a guest comes to your house and they misbehave you sent them packing, this is the case with arabs, they come to our country cause problems and continue to stay here. They should go back to where they came from, if they continue to kill people.

Posted by: sara at August 12, 2005 05:26 AM (cGeZ2)

72 DAVID YOU THANK G-D YOU CONVERTED TO ISLAM WOULN'T WANT SOMEONE LIKE YOU TO BE JEWISH

Posted by: chris at August 12, 2005 12:49 PM (cGeZ2)

73 There are 1.5 billion muslims in the world and rising...There are about 15 million jews in the world(most from usa in new york). There are 10 times more hindus and sikhs in this world than there are jews...it's just proof that jewish religion isn't going anywere.....

Posted by: Muslims always Fight Back at August 12, 2005 03:01 PM (F1nba)

74 Just a few comments from an interested bypasser. Jews HAVE converted to Islam throughout history, more so than have converted to Christianity. Many prominent Muslims of the past in Persia and Spain were actually from Jewish families originally. Sometimes the conversions were ones of convenience but sometimes ones of religious conviction too. Mostly based on verses like in Deuteronomy 18:18 18.I will raise up a prophet from among their countrymen like you, and I will put My words in his mouth, and he shall speak to them all that I command him. 19. `It shall come about that whoever will not listen to My words which he shall speak in My name, I Myself will require it of him . and also the verses where Jesus prophesies another helper/prophet in the Christian Gospel of John etc 7. "But I tell you the truth, it is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you. 8. "And He, when He comes, will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment; 9. concerning sin, because they do not believe in Me; 10. and concerning righteousness, because I go to the Father and you no longer see Me; 11. and concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world has been judged. 12. "I have many more things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. 13. "But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come. 14. "He will glorify Me, for He will take of Mine and will disclose it to you. 15. "All things that the Father has are Mine; therefore I said that He takes of Mine and will disclose it to you " For various reasons, some Jewish people have come to feel that Jesus is indeed the Messiah and the branch of David spoken of in Isaiah but cannot accept the Trinitarian theory that makes him G-d. For that reason, some have converted to Islam as it maintains the strict belief in monotheism but also allows for the belief that Jesus was an important prophet of G-d and that his return will signal the end of Times and the Day of Judgement. That said, most good Jews, Christians and Muslims know that it is not important what you say you are but what you do and whom you truly worship. A G-d fearing Jew or Christian does not need to convert to Islam and those Muslims who insist upon it are wrong. Each of the three religions has those who are totally obsessed with power and greed. There is no one solution for this except for all of us worship G-d with our hearts, soul and might as we are all commanded to do.

Posted by: Miriam at August 13, 2005 01:03 PM (vhn84)

75 remember that 100% of the violence in the present intifadia has been initiated by the palestinians, not the israelis. It was not the israelis who massacared olympic athletes in Munich, or highjacked Americans on an airliner and held them hostage at Entebbe, or threw crippled man to his death in the seaon the Achille lauro, but the palestians. It is not the israelis going to installations and checkpoints to riot and shoot, but the palestinians. I is not the Israelis who cooperate with terrorist organisations on the united states list of terrorists, some of what are linked to osama bin laden, who joined with saddam hussein in the gulf war against America and still revere the iraqui dictator as a hero, but the palestinians. It is not the Israelis indiscriminately murdering men, women and children in their cars it is the palestinians. It is not the Israelis who hold mass rallies condemning the us burning american flags, stagging mock murders of Jews and setting fire to models of jewish temple to cheering crowds, it is the palestinians. It is not the Israelis who train young men by hundreds to brcome suicide bombers and send them into cities to blow up buses, cafes, shopping malls and supermarkets, it is the palestinians. It is not the Israelis who danced with joy in their streets at the news of the attack on America and cheered bin laden, it is the Palestinians.

Posted by: THE REAL TRUTH at August 14, 2005 07:25 AM (cGeZ2)

76 The TRUTH as you want to say is that you Jewish big nosed liars do thinks so cunningly and deceitfully that you fool the world that you have not done anything wrong. You manage to torture Palestinians in Jail, shoot them, and bomb them! and still get away with murder. If a Irealy gets hrt you have to kill 100 by bombing them! You Call every other nation as "ANIMALS" and use America to do you dirty work. Like the devil You black clothed (sign of evil) wall fuckers put shit into the dumb Americans head to bomb Muslims... not to forget the fact they are Muslims..."human beings" Muslims do not hate anyone. You are all pathetic scared wimps. Christians should realise that only Muslims and Christians are getting killed in Gaza...

Posted by: Jews are serpents at August 14, 2005 01:36 PM (z3qsE)

77 YOU COMPLETE IDIOT, WHAT A SILLY THING TO SAY 'JEWS HAVE BIG NOSES' GET SOME EDUCATION. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE COMMENTING, YOU SHOULD KNOW TOMORROW THE DESINGAGEMENT WILL TAKE PLACE, WHERE THE ISRAELIS WILL FORCE OTHER SETTLERS (ISRAELIS) TO LEAVE GAZA. 7000 JEWS WILL HAVE TO GIVE THEIR HOMES UP FOR THE ARABS, WE GIVE GIVE GIVE AND THEY TAKE, TAKE, TAKE.

Posted by: you thicko at August 15, 2005 06:06 AM (cGeZ2)

78 The only reason why the Jews are leaving is so cunning its beyond the stupid Arab's minds. You want to give them the land, they will use there fireworks on you, you will than show no mercy and kick them out, but you will make sure you get more than you have lost. What a clever plan. Jewish = Devils. The Jewish secret laws are based on the fundamental principle which states: Only the Jew is human. In contrast all non-Jews are animals, they are beasts in human form. Anything is permitted against them. The Jew may lie to, cheat and steal from them. He may rape and murder them. There are hundreds of passages in the Talmud which the non-jews are described as animals. Some of them are as follows: 1). "The Jews are called human beings, but the non-Jews are not humans. They are beasts." (Talmud: Baba Mezia 114b) 2). "The Akum (Negro) is like a dog. Yes, the scripture teaches to honor the dog more than the Akum." (Ereget Raschi Erod. 22 30) 3). "Even though God created the non-Jew they are still animals in human form. It is not becoming for a Jew to be served by an animal. Therefore he will be served by animals in human form." (Midrasch Talpioth, p. 255, Warsaw 1855) 4). "A pregnant non-Jew is no better than a pregnant animal." (Coschen Hamischpat 405) 5). "The souls of non-Jews come from impure spirits and are called pigs." (Jalkut Rubeni gadol 12b) 6). "Although the non-Jew has the same body structure as the Jew, they compare with the Jew like a monkey to a human." (Schene Luchoth Haberith, p. 250b) So that the Jew will never forget that he is dealing with animals, he is reminded by eating, by death, and even by sexual intercourse constantly. For The Talmud teaches: 1). "If you eat with a non-Jew, it is the same as eating with a dog." (Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b) 2). "If a Jew has a non-Jewish servant of maid who dies, one should not express sympathy to the Jew. You should tell to the Jew: ?God will replace ?your loss,' just as if one of his oxen or asses had died." (Jore Dea 377, 1) 3). "Sexual intercoms between non-Jews is like intercourse between animals." (Sanhedrin 74b) It is written in the Talmud about the murder of the non-Jew: 1). "It is permitted to take the body and the life of a non-Jew." (Sepher Ikkarim IIIc, 25) 2). "It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah (Talmud - Sanhedrin 59b). The Christians belong to the denying ones of the Torah (Talmud)." (Coschen Hamischpat 425, Hagah 425

Posted by: Consipracy/ Christians against the Jew at August 15, 2005 12:56 PM (z3qsE)

79 Did Islam steal everything from the Jews. Yep sounds just like Islam.

Posted by: Howie at August 15, 2005 01:00 PM (D3+20)

80 mate I study the torah, (jewish bibble) and your sayings are rubbish all it has is possitive saying, you must be getting your facts from someone else, its certainly not written in the torah THATS FOR SURE!

Posted by: factless at August 15, 2005 03:04 PM (cGeZ2)

81 1- KILL ALL THOSE WHO ARE NOT ISLAM 2-TAKEOVER THE WORLD 3-IF YOU BECOME A SUICIDE BOMBER YOU GET 75 VIRGINS 4- IF YOUR WIFE HAS AN AFFAIR, CANT COOK, GETS RAPED HER HUSBAND CAN KILL HER. 5-WOMEN SHUT UP MEN SPEAK OUT 6-BRAINWASH KIDS FROM A YOUNG AGE 7-IF U EVEN LOOK AT A CHRISTIAN YOU WILL BE SLAUGHTERED, SLOWLY BUT SURELY

Posted by: fAMOUS ISLAM SAYINGS at August 15, 2005 06:06 PM (cGeZ2)

82 Leave the Christians alone you Jewish Scums. The Murderous People: The Jews are under a terrible suspicion the world over, and for good reason. Anyone who does not know this, does not understand the Jewish problem. Anyone who merely see the Jews as "a tribe which secures its existence with exchange and old trousers, and whose uniforms are the long noses," is being misled. But anyone who knows the monstrous accusation which has been raised against the jews since the beginning of time, will view these people in a different light. He will begin to see not only a peculiar, strangely fascinating nation; but criminals, murderers, and devils in human form. He will be filled with holy anger and hatred against these people of Satan. (John 8:44) On page 19 of this work the Jew Teofito confesses how he was initiated into the knowledge of Ritual Murder. And how the Jews for thousands of years have concealed it from the Christian and non-Jewish world. Teofito writes: "This secret of the blood is not know to all the Jews, but only to the Chakam (doctors) or the rabbis and the scholars, who therefore carry the title ?Conservatori del mistero del sangue' (Conservators of the mystery of blood!). They pass it on by word of mouth to the Jewish fathers. They in turn reveal it to their sons who regard this as a great honor. At the same time they make terrible threats of punishment if one of them betrays this secret... Rabbi Reichorn, speaking at the funeral of Grand Rabbi Simeon Ben-Judah, 1869, Henry Ford also noted that: 'It was a Jew who said, 'Wars are the Jews' harvest'; but no harvest is so rich as civil wars.' The International Jew: The World's Foremost Problem, Vol. III, p. 180) The history of the Jews is written with Christian blood. Their history proves that the Jew is extremely cruel and at the same time a coward. The Jew is not a born soldier; he is a born sadist and murderer. (John 8:44)

Posted by: Jesus will return at August 15, 2005 07:54 PM (z3qsE)

83 You lossers, why are you so jealous of jewish people? You have to make up all these quotes, that aren't true. The jews are good people and not one quote is mentioned in any of the jewish sources. Go get yourselves a life as you clearly dont have one and leave the jewish people alone. They dont take any notice of you guys or of what anyone says they are hard workers and prove to be a sucess and you lot just get jealous.

Posted by: wow at August 16, 2005 03:53 AM (OyE0V)

84 http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/ PLEASE JEWS READ THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: True Torah at August 16, 2005 07:15 PM (z3qsE)

85 IM A REAL JEW I BELIVE PEACE IS THE ANSWER WE'RE ALL HUMANS! IS RAEL HAS THIS LITTLE TINY COUNTRY AND BOOM U WANT 2 GIVE IT 2 ARABSS WHO HAV SOOO MANY COUNTRYS ARABS R GONNA TAKE OVER THE WORLD AND THEN IT SEZ CLERLY IN KABBALA THEN OUR LEADER MOSHIACH WILL COME AND DESTROY RASIST PEOPLE SO IM TELING U NO BEFORE THE YEAR 6000 IN JEWISH YEAR IT IS NOW 5765 SO IN 6000 OR B4 OUR MOSHIACH WILL COME AND WIPE OUT ALL U ANTI- JEW PEOPLE YOU'LL SEE!

Posted by: FG at August 18, 2005 10:47 AM (OyE0V)

86 listen you thick jews. The only person who will come next will be Jesus. You better all start preying for forgiveness. Mosquito will not return. Got that? Shut up or Il nuke you.

Posted by: george bush at August 20, 2005 09:11 PM (z3qsE)

87 look i dont want to take a stand but please for god's sake, for humanity sake, u guys stop fighting and hating each other. cant u see its not going to serve any purpose, violence never served a noble cause, loss of a loved one, pain disease, war and wounds will hurt an arab same as it will hurt a jew or a christian. every human being suffers irrespective of his religion, so please stop fighting and killing

Posted by: BUDDHA at August 28, 2005 01:33 AM (Mccwd)

88 Fascinating... all the stupid people and comments out here. Simple fact of the matter is that every group of people NEED another group of people to be the scapegoat. Unluckily for jews, they have that role generation after generation... That said, and this goes for ALL religions, there is NO utopia. What do I mean? Well, let's say Islam rises up and slaughters all Christians and Jews. Islam will now need a new scapegoat. So, what they'll have to do (and they already do it now) is attack certain sects of Islam and wipe those people out. This is typical of all religions. They not only believe their religion is the right one, but only their sects. Sunni vs. Shiite Catholic vs. Protestant Orthodox vs. Reform (Jew) Then when you throw race into the mix... it never ends. Blacks kill blacks. Whites kill whites. Lastly, I'm amazed at all the stupid comments of how Jews rule America. Last I looked, George Bush was an extreme Christian who'd rather have Jesus heal us than stem cells. You can't believe Jesus will heal and be a Jew at the same time anymore than you can be a Christian who believes in Allah and Mohammed as the true path. Of course, I don't expect a well-thought rebuttal. I expect someone like sk8rgrl to say stuff like "JEWS AND ARABS ARRT THE SCCUMM OF THE UNIVERCE!" Who says the world is heading downhill? Don't worry humans. When the earth has had enough of our bullshit, it will extinguish us like it did the dinosaurs. Then you can all cry to your respective Gods.

Posted by: Earthbound at October 09, 2005 12:00 PM (9bH1N)

89 All i got to say is where are the Romans,spanish,babilonians, nazis now thet tried to wipe the jews out yet there still around!

Posted by: ann at October 23, 2005 08:45 AM (nz0Dv)

90 hey everyone. I just think that jews are using christians to gang up on muslims. and christians just do what jews say because jews own all of the worlds biggest companies (mainly through lying, cheating, etc) I was brought up in a quarter jewish and christian family, but now at the age of 29 i realised that Islam is the mosy fair and honest religion. People hat jews because jews do stuff which make people hate them. Some people say that people hate jews for NO reason, thats just stupid because it doesnt make sense. Be a muslim!!!!

Posted by: Yusuf Beck at October 27, 2005 07:30 PM (n8d/p)

91 hey everyone. I just think that jews are using christians to gang up on muslims. and christians just do what jews say because jews own all of the worlds biggest companies (mainly through lying, cheating, etc) I was brought up in a quarter jewish and christian family, but now at the age of 29 i realised that Islam is the most fair and honest religion. People hat jews because jews do stuff which make people hate them. Some people say that people hate jews for NO reason, thats just stupid because it doesnt make sense. Be a muslim!!!!

Posted by: Yusuf Beck at October 27, 2005 07:30 PM (n8d/p)

92 Hey all jews (the rest fuck off). Here are the most IMPORTANT rules of being the REAL jew 1) Hate on ALL muslims 2)Hate on ALL christians (but dont be blatant) 3)HATE ON EVERYONE THATS NOT JEWISH 4)Lie, cheat, kill or whatever you have to do to become rich 5)Have a meeting with all the fellow BIG nosed jews, and plan a world destruction. 6)Make fun, and make lies about black people 7)Create a biased society (in favour of us the ugly jews) Serve warm, soft and moist shit in the skull caps to all our shit eating jews on the gay temple which we go to 9)Pretend to be innocent after destroying anything and everything around you 10)Last but not least - CONVERT TO A CHRISIANS BECAUSE THEY RULE!!!! THEY ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT STEPS OF BECOMING A SHIT FACED JEW. IM 100% SURE ALL MY FELLOW UGLY JEWS ARE FOLLOWING EACH STEP PERFECTLY!!!! KEEP ON GOING FUCKERS!!!!!

Posted by: adam goldberg at October 28, 2005 07:32 AM (PTarp)

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