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March 25, 2005

Akayev Denies Resignation, Russia Supports Kyrgyzstan's New Government

Russia announced today it's support of Kyrgyzstan's new government. Meanwhile, the ousted President of the Central Asian republic denies reports that he has resigned calling his ouster a 'coup' and saying he will return to Kyrgistan.

Some may take the Russian endorsement as a bad sign. The new orthodoxy of many on the right is a suspicion that Russia is fast becoming an autocratic state with interests at odds with the U.S.

My view is that the Russian situation is far more complex, especially when it comes to the former Soviet states of Central Asia. Many of these states have become bastions of radical Islamists. In this regard, Russia's interests in the region mesh nicely with our own.

Willism has the background on Kyrgyztan here and why it matters to the U.S.

Parenthetically the Bishkek Cafe, just off of Moscow's Pushkin sqare, has some pretty decent grub. You'll have to dodge the hookers that hang out in front of the bus stop at night, but it's worth it for the money. The food that is, not the hookers. Pervs. more...

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March 17, 2005

Former Russian PM Escapes Assassination Attempt (UPDATED)

Let me disagree with the Reliapundit on this one, although he's right to think the former top KGB man is a suspect. But Putin is only one suspect in this case, and it is doubtful that he was behind this.

I spent a year studying in Moscow and, trust me on this one, Anatoly Chubais has plenty of enemies. Chubais was the Prime Minister of Russia, closely allied to Boris Yeltsin, who oversaw the privatization of state owned industry. As a result, a few oligarchs grew wealthy while millions lost everything. Enemies a plenty.

Chubais is now head of a state run energy company and thus in close contact with many criminal elements. This is not beyond the mafia's doing. The mafia walked into a hotel run by a friend of mine one day and unloaded several hundred rounds into his Russian business partner simply because the hotel refused to lease space for a disco. They were never caught.

As a member of government, he could also have been targetted by Chechen terrorists. Chubais was Prime Minister when Chechnya declared independence and Russia responded with a massive invasion. Whenever something that might be construed as terrorism happens in Russia, it's wise to keep the Chechen mujahadin as part of the usual suspects. UPDATE: Scroll past article for possible motives for Chechen rebels to assassinate Chubais.Reuters:

Anatoly Chubais, head of Russia's state power monopoly, has survived an assassination attempt by assailants who detonated a roadside bomb and sprayed his convoy with a hail of automatic gunfire.
The 49-year-old Chubais, one of Russia's best-known figures, came to prominence as the architect of post-Soviet economic reforms under which two dozen "oligarchs" acquired vast wealth while ordinary people suffered a huge slump in living standards.
He is now chief executive of Unified Energy System, and the prime mover behind reforms to introduce competition to the power sector of the world's largest country.
Chubais told a hastily arranged press briefing that he had been aware of a plan to kill him, but would not say who he suspected of carrying out the attack.
"I have an idea of who could have taken out a contract on me," a shaken but defiant Chubais said from the safety of UES headquarters in Moscow after the attempt. "We had reason to believe something like this might happen."
Chubais was travelling to work from his country home along a narrow stretch of the Minsk Highway at 9:30 a.m. (6.30 a.m. British time) when a roadside bomb rocked his two-car cortege and two attackers opened fire with automatic weapons.
Chubais said his armoured BMW had been able to flee the scene despite being hit in the windscreen, hood and front tyre.
Security guards for Chubais travelling in a Mitsubishi Lancer returned fire at the hitmen, who later escaped.
Police said the bomb blast had a force equivalent to at least 500 grams of TNT. Television footage from the scene showed a large crater at the side of a two-way highway through forest.

UPDATE: Why would Chechen terrorists target Chubais?

Remember that Chechen rebel leader Aslan Maskhadov was recently killed by Russian forces. Anotoly Chubais was one of the main proponents of military strikes against Chechnya. For instance, in 1999 when leading Grigory Yavlinsky called for a pause in the bombing of Chechnya, Chubais called this former ally of the democratic movement a 'traitor'.

And how was Chubai seen by the Chechen rebels? Their propaganda wing calls Chubai a 'fascist' and claim one of his goals (linking Chubai to Putin) is 'extermination of the Chechens'.

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March 08, 2005

Chechen Terrorist Leader Killed

Aslan Maskhadov, the leader of Chechnya's rebellion, has been killed by Russian forces.

Muskhadov had a $10 million dollar bounty on his head and was considered the most wanted man in Russia. Maskhadov had led the Chechen rebellion in the early 1990s until a cease-fire was negotiated with then President Boris Yeltsin.

Maskhadov was a bitter rival to the al Qaeda linked Shamil Basayev. Basayev has been linked to the Beslan massacres and has promised more Beslan like attacks in the future. Maskhadov ran against Basayev in 1997 for the Chechen Presidency and won.

Maskhadov was later driven out of office by the Russians when he declared Chechnya an independent state.

The press reports that Maskhadov was simply a leader of a nationalist movement in Chechnya are mistaken. Maskhadov is accused of planning the hostage crisis at the Nord-Ost theater in Moscow. 129 hostages later died, mostly as the result of a botched rescue operation.

Further, the MSM likes to portray Maskhadov as a moderate, contrasting him to the al Qaeda linked Basayev, but Maskhadov's nationalism was tied closely to his Muslim identity. His army is composed of jihadis drawn from around the world to repel the infidel invaders (Russia). Clearly, Maskhadov was a jihadi who saw his mission to end the 400 year old Russian control of Chechnya as a religious imperetive.

Images: (top) Reuters photo of the dead Maskhadov. (bottom) Maskhadov pauses to say prayers with his army of jihadis. (below) Russian television station NTV airs video of Maskhadov dead on the street.

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1 A dead terrorist leader - THE BEST KIND!

Posted by: Editor at March 08, 2005 12:49 PM (adpJH)

2 That's GREAT news. We need more news like this. A constant barrage of dead terrorist news.

Posted by: Preston Taylor Holmes at March 08, 2005 12:52 PM (WsZ4F)

3 Hmmm, how about a "dead terrorist" counter?

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at March 08, 2005 12:57 PM (JQjhA)

4 was he just walking down the street with no shirt on when they popped him? Perhaps he was trying to get a tan, cause he sure is white. heh.

Posted by: mark at March 08, 2005 01:07 PM (mUdD1)

5 Wow I can't believe they finally got him. Although, this is not exactly going to help the situation. Aslan was one of the few bastards who was willing to negotiate with Russia. Now the Chechyans are really going to go crazy.

Posted by: Igor Kazakov at March 08, 2005 03:49 PM (xM3Dg)

6 The people who are commenting on the positivity of Maskhadov's death have no clue WHATSOEVER of what is and was going on on Russia and Chechnya. THIS WILL NOT HELP. Maskhadov was the "breaks" of the Chechen guerrilas. How can you put such miserably stupid and IGNORANT comments about him having white skin??? This is so very american, sorry to say. In the 10 years of fighting 200,000 chechens were killed by the russian troops, including 80.000 children. is that a kind of thing to make fun of?? I cannot believe how ignorant the world can be. Now we only have two worst people left in Chechnya - Basayev and Kadyrov. The fights will continue, just becoming more vicious. Maskhadov was NOT a terrorist. He was the last chance for peace. And, please, do not forget that he was constantly offering peacetalks to Kremlin (which they refused) and denied having participated in any terrorist acts. PEOPLE, WAKE UP!!!

Posted by: Gintare Eidimtaite at March 09, 2005 05:00 AM (HJRZT)

7 It is unsurprising Americans know more about the ME theater of the War on Terror, more than they know about AL-Qaeda's attempts to infiltrate the Chechnyan guerrila resistance. The Russians are trying their hand at violence in their former Empire, the Americans are trying our hand at violence in our new Empire. The difference is that the Chechnyans got fed up with Russia's idea of power and control, while the Middle East is just realizing the rejuvenating power of a US occupation. Russia obviously won't help us in Iraq for various reasons, and we have no reason to help them in Chechnya. Especially since Russia is making things worse in Chechnya. The Western Liberals keep talking bout Bush being a dictator and using emergency powers to strenghten government after 9/11, but the original model has always been Russia. America will clean up the mess in the Middle East as best we can, and then we will have the time and the energy to look at Indonesia, Europe's Eurabia problem, and Russia's immature attempts at "Empire" building. Until then, American ignorance of Chechnyan "terroists" and "guerrilas" are quite excusable.

Posted by: Ymarsakar at March 10, 2005 12:58 PM (F/G2E)

8 Well said Ymarsakar. It's just so hard not to cheer for someone killing muslim terrorists. Regardless of the reason.

Posted by: greyrooster at March 11, 2005 02:03 AM (gvOyZ)

9 Thank you for your comment Gintare. I don't have anything more to add but wanted you to know that I echo your sentiments - both about Maskhadov and about American ignorance.

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February 21, 2005

Al Qaeda Linked Terrorists Killed in Russia

Despite the many differences we have with Russia over Iran, the fact remains that they are a key ally in the War on Terror. The reason Russia supports the Iranian nuclear program is it is because it is in their national interest to do so--they are the ones that sold Iran their reactors. The Russians might be induced to support our policy of Iranian containment if we were more vocal in our support of Russia's fight against the jihadis in Chechnya. Our criticism of the harsh tactics used by Russia in that fight is a major source of tensin between the two countries.

MosNews:

An al Qaeda member known as Abu Dzeit has been killed in the Russian internal republic of Ingushetia, Russian authorities said Monday.
Â“A joint operation with the Interior Ministry was conducted in a private house in a village in Ingushetia on February 16,Â” spokesman for the Federal Security Service Sergei Ignatchenko told reporters on Monday.
Â“The operation first resulted in the death of two of his accomplices. Abu Dzeit hid in a special bunker built under the house. When the entrance was discovered, he blew himself up,Â” Ignatchenko said.
He said investigators identified the body as Abu DzeitÂ’s.
A source in the FSB, RussiaÂ’s domestic security service, told RIA-Novosti that Abu Dzeit, eliminated in Ingushetia, was the leader of the so-called Ingush Jamaat and an emissary of the international terror network al Qaeda. He was also known as little Omar, and Abu Omar of Kuwait.
Abu Dzeit reported directly to Abu Havs, a purported coordinator of all terrorist activities on Russian territory, a source said. Abu Dzeit had received special training in al Qaeda camps in Afghanistan. Later he was appointed al QaedaÂ’s envoy to Ingushetia.
He was in charge of distributing cash funds provided by al Qaeda to radical Islamists in the Northern Caucasus.

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1 "Our criticism of the harsh tactics used by Russia in that fight is a major source of tensin between the two countries." I think you're oversimplifying things with this statement. The tension that underlies U.S.-Russian relations goes far beyond and far deeper than the way they engage the Chechens. While it may have *some* kind of impact on relations, it's not a "major" source. As an aside, it's funny how Russia is now considered an "ally" by a lot of people, when the people who are running Russia are essentially the same as those who ran the Soviet Union. And the policies that have been drafted in the last 10 years in Russia are much more synchronous to what we all saw 20 years ago. I mean, with lines differentiating the pre-glasnost Soviet Union and modern-day Russia becoming increasingly blurred, it's interesting how people considered them "enemies" then and "friends" now. Islamic fascism makes strange bedfellows I guess, but I still wouldn't be throwing a parade for Putin and his ex-KGB cronies anytime soon.

Posted by: Venom at February 21, 2005 01:36 PM (dbxVM)

2 I like Putin. His policies are easy to understand. Very little bullshit. Actions speak best. The muslim trouble makers know where he and Russia stands. He's easy to read. He wants power. He wants Russia to make a buck. He wants his enemies dead. The proof is in the pudding. How many Americans have been killed by Russians? Hating Putin is hating without a reason. As of now we have no reason to hate Russia or its leaders. They have done nothing more than, lets say Canada. Russia didn't join us in Iraq and neither did Canada. Russia is certainly lower on the anti-America list than France. Remember, just a few years ago we armed a bunch of muslim animals fighting Russia. Many Russians died due to our sticking our nose in. Remember Putin has to face the parents of those dead Russian soldiers. I think he's walking a tight wire. The focus should be on those screaming for our blood. One thing at a time. One thing at a time. Syria and Iran first.

Posted by: greyrooster at February 21, 2005 07:28 PM (CBNGy)

3 Oh, I don't hate Putin. I just thought it was interesting how alliances quickly change. One year we (as you mentioned) love the same people we're fighting today, the next we side with the people we hoped they would rally against. Also, let's not make any mistake about the fact that Putin is quickly trying to turn his country into the 21st-century equivalent of the Soviet Union. Communism by name is a thing of the past, but his goals are as hardlined as the Soviet Union's were back in the Cold War. The only difference is that he doesn't have the Warsaw Pact countries to shield his country in the event of a conflict. Anyhow, it'll be interesting to see how things develop over the next 10 years. And I agree, his stance on Islamic fascists is pretty disciplined. I'm just saying let's not forget that these are the same people we "didn't like" 20 years ago. At any rate, this kind of struggle against Islamic fascism may help to mend a lot of fences and the goodwill generated now between the west and Russia may help to avoid conflict in the future.

Posted by: Venom at February 22, 2005 09:26 AM (dbxVM)

4 I say support their anti-terrorism in every way but keep an eye on 'em.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at February 24, 2005 10:03 AM (x+5JB)

5 hello.iam form iran.iam military secret.i want work for you.abut iam sorry i can not speak english.plz my answer me persian or azeri.thank you/

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February 03, 2005

Chechen Terrorist Vows More School Massacres on Video

In a video interview, Shamil Basayev claims that the Beslan massacre was a mistake. No, not like you think. He was hoping his terrorist followers would be able to take two schools full of children hostage. Oh, and yes, he probably will be forced to massacre more school children in the future. But it's not his fault. It's the Russians fault.

Russia, for their part, has asked the British TV station Channel 4 to refrain from broadcasting the video.

In related news, rumors have begun circulating that Basayev is dead. No tears shed here if true. A web-site linked to the Chechen terrorists has also called for a cease-fire, bolstering claims of the terrorist chief's death.

And what does the MSM call the man?

Australia's ABC News calls the man a Chechen warlord. The Canadian Globe and Mail calls him a Chechen leader.

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1 Then I say open hunting season on all Chechenian muslims. They want holy war, give it to them. Hell, I saw a show on the history channel after the theater incident where they pumped an anastetic into the air system. When the Russians came across a female bomber they said, "heres a bitch." then put a bullet into her head. They did this with I believe all the terrorists. And I must say that is the most effective way to deal with them, they never get another day to bark about allah and committ acts of terrorism thereafter.

Posted by: Andre at February 03, 2005 10:17 AM (2kPXV)

2 Effective, yes. Moral, no.

Posted by: Rusty at February 03, 2005 10:27 AM (JQjhA)

3 Moral no? They are butchering little kids, for Chris- sake! The civilized world need to hunt these people down and kill them! Before they kill us. This is not a case for legalities it is survival!

Posted by: Rod Stanton at February 03, 2005 11:09 AM (gVJtb)

4 Moral? They raped the school girls, because Mohommed said that any females captured in battle, can be kept as s3x slaves... it's not rape, because they're just enjoying the flesh of an infidel. And do you know why they released the children under one year in age? Because every child under a year, is considered to be born muzzie. They're animals, who need to be put down.

Posted by: Princess Kimberley at February 03, 2005 11:23 AM (6OBtC)

5 I mean it would be immoral to kill all Chechens simply because they were Chechens.

Posted by: Rusty at February 03, 2005 11:37 AM (JQjhA)

6 Canadians speak so much french they're starting to act like them.

Posted by: greyrooster at February 03, 2005 12:58 PM (n5v9Q)

7 According to anonymous and getto butch we should be watching the Russians because they are mean to the Chechens. Ya! Right!

Posted by: greyrooster at February 03, 2005 01:03 PM (n5v9Q)

8 Actually, that Globe and Mail article does refer to Basayev as a warlord: "It cited an unidentified aide to Shamil Basayev, another Chechen warlord, as the source." Anyhow, instead of arguing over what the correct terminology should be, I think it's safe to say that anyone who specfically targets children is the lowest of the low.

Posted by: Venom at February 03, 2005 01:15 PM (dbxVM)

9 I second that emotion.

Posted by: greyrooster at February 03, 2005 03:42 PM (n5v9Q)

10 Hey Chicken Little, if you are going to quote me do it right. I what Anonymous and myself said was Putin is a freaking sadistic lunatic much like you are, and that we need to keep tabs on him because later he can turn on us. Got you moron. In fact it is not the Chechens we were referring to but his own fellow Russians and other European countries. He had the Ukranian newly elected President poisoned. If he did it to them he can do it to you precious Bush. Just because a rabid dog kills a fox in the hen house does not mean we need to go hug the beast. But I wish you wood chicken little. One more thing chicken, I have enough faith in our government, even if it does include Bush, that we can kill terrorist and keep tabs on Putin at the same time.

Posted by: Butch at February 03, 2005 04:00 PM (Gqhi9)

11 (I what anonymous and) (do it to you precious Bush) ( got you moron) ( wish you wood ) Hilarious! ha, LOL Still speaking gettoees. The above says it all. Just goes to show, you can take a monkey out of the trees but you cannot teach him to speak correctly. Now go the the mail box, Mr Porch Monkey. Get your food stamps. This time do not trade all of them for crack. Save some and trade for a book on the english language.

Posted by: greyrooster at February 03, 2005 05:50 PM (n5v9Q)

12 http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/story.jsp?story=607560 Q) How do you know someone has a mental illness? A) they claim they're liberal and kiss up to terrorists.

Posted by: Andre at February 04, 2005 09:10 AM (2kPXV)

13 They think they are safe that way. Little do they know.

Posted by: greyrooster at February 04, 2005 02:37 PM (JHIKU)

14 Well, these allah barkers claim they are moral but hacking the heads off of non-combatians and shooting unarmed kids in the back leaves no doubt in my mind that they are little more than animals on their hind legs. Rabid animals at that and if the Russians did go after them once and for all the only thing the Russians would have done was put down a batch of cujos. Sorry, I just don't see any redeming value in them after they shot school aged children in the back.

Posted by: Andre at February 05, 2005 12:43 PM (2kPXV)

15 Ok people you really need to know what is happening to criticize. Russia invaded a defenseless Chechnya twice after signing a treaty to leave them alone. Not only have they killed 250 thousand people in five years in Chechnya but they destroyed almost all buildings and the economy. Also no one was raped in the schools. The hostages were interviewed during and after and stated they were treated humanly despite being in a hot gym.

Posted by: jap at April 18, 2005 02:30 PM (pOxaP)

16 I am gay! Right? YEah!

Posted by: Nell0 at April 22, 2005 04:49 AM (ZNUY/)

17 Princess Kimberly, Islam says that sex before marriage (with the person you have sex with) is a sin and punished (possibly with death). So I don't get where you got your info?

Posted by: PissedOff at June 13, 2005 12:54 PM (RPxzk)

18 Maybe the Russians should get out off Chechnya FOREVER!!. Its not their country Chechnyan ancestors have lived there for possibly 1000's of years so it is their ancestral land. I don't understand why everyone blames the Muslims when Jews occupy Palestinian land, India occupies Kashmir (and they won't allow a referendum in accordance with UN wishes which would wind up getting them kicked out of Kashmir), U.S is occupying Iraqi territory (and they went in on false pretenses and lies), Serbs (stinking animals) tried to kill off Bosnians. Before a lot of you start blaming Muslims look at yourselves and your own countries, its these countries who are they criminals/animals.

Posted by: PissedOff at June 13, 2005 01:00 PM (RPxzk)

19 I think the Iraqi/muslim suicide bombers who are killing innocent people r sick! They have been brainwashed into thinking they will be united with Alah if they commit these evil crimes! Its sad that these imbasils actually belive this and want to fight a holy war! I think its funny how everybody turns to religion in tragedies like this one in london on 7/7/05 when its religion which causes it in the first place! These sick people will not get away with the evil acts which they r committing and justice will be served! My opinion is that Iraq shud just b blown off the face of the earth!-we need to save ourselves, its survival of the fittest here!

Posted by: zoe at July 08, 2005 05:00 PM (iNWcu)

20 Taking children hostage is immoral, but so is dropping bombs on school. Who the fuck are you people to condemn the acts of basayev, sure killing children is evil but what if your kids were raped beaten then killed. You stupid people think that terrorists wake up one day and decide to commit atrocaties, and its because of you narrow minded people that the world look upon the chechens as muslim terrorists, I could garantee that 100% of chechens arn't fighting only for their religion, thir religion is what gives them the strengh to fight but you small minded people seem to think their goals are to blow themselves up and goto heaven.

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Georgian PM Found Dead of Gas Poisoning

The reformist Prime Minister of Georgia, Zurab Zhvania, has been found dead. Media sources indicate that the 44 year old's death was likely due to a gas leak at a friend's home. Russia has denied any involvement in the Prime Minister's death. more...

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January 13, 2005

Georgian Breakaway Republic of Abkhazia Elects President

Like South Ossetia, Abkhazia wishes to leave Georgia and become part of the Russian Federation. The election changes none of this. While war between Russian and Georgia is not imminent, it still remains a real possibility. Xinhua:

Opposition leader Sergei Bagapsh won a landslide victory in Wednesday's presidential election in Georgia's breakaway republic of Abkhazia, the republic's Central Electoral Commission (CEC) announced Thursday.
CEC chief Batal Tabagua said Bagapsh won 91.1 percent of the vote, demolishing his only rival, the People's Party leader Yakub Lakoba, who took just 4.5 percent, the Itar-Tass news agency reported....
Abkhazia has enjoyed de facto independence from Georgia since fighting a separatist war in the early 1990s following the collapse of the Soviet Union. The region has been seeking to integrate with Russia against the wishes of Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili who has vowed to regain control over the republic and another rebel region, South Ossetia.
Bagapsh said Thursday that any future dialogue between Abkhaziaand Georgia must be held under the premise that both sides are equal and independent states.
He regarded with great optimism relations with Russia and advocated further integration with Moscow, stressing that Abkhaziawill have no future without financial and legal assistance from Russia.

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December 31, 2004

Beslan Donates To Tsunami Relief

The Courier-Mail reports that the North Ossetian town of Beslan in Russia, still mourning 344 murders - half of them children - by terrorists, has contributed $37,500 to the tsunami relief effort.

"Our council decided to transfer a million rubles to help those suffering from the disaster in Asia," said Maerbek Tuayev, who is in charge of municipal council efforts to raise funds for families of the victims of the September hostage taking.

"The residents of Beslan have not forgotten how the whole world mobilised for them. We will always mobilise for people suffering from disasters or terrorism around the world."

Memories of the massacre in Beslan are ugly. The residents' resilience and generosity warm the heart.

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December 13, 2004

Pro-American President Elected in Romania

Left out of all the articles on the winner of the Romanian Presidential election, Traian Basescu, is the fact that he is supportive of the US Iraq policy. Even more telling is that both of the candidates in the election support our efforts in Iraq. New Europe pulls through again! Telegraph:

The pro-western mayor of Bucharest caused a serious upset in the Romanian presidential election yesterday, defeating the country's former communist prime minister.
Known as "The European", reform-minded Traian Basescu surged past Adrian Nastase as the votes from Sunday's poll were counted.

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December 09, 2004

Ukrainian Crips Poison Blood

Yushenko was poisoned? A drive-by with a Kalish would be more OG.

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1 They tried to be subtle and failed twice. Did not kill him; and called a lot of unwanted attention to themselves. The KGB seems to really be gone. Rod Stanton Cerritos

Posted by: Rod Stanton at December 09, 2004 01:15 PM (tHUgl)

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14 Fuck yall bitch ass Ckrabs i noe fo a fact that all yall are fake except dat bk,rk,dk ridah Ckrab. ne wayz dis is me Red Dawg B's up da true blood from the 40 blocks. Piru fo life i dare yall to come to my block my niggaz my block is on fire we kill dem GD niggas mostly dem bitch ass Dkonuts and fuck all my rivals caUSe aint nobody can handle a BLood.

Posted by: Red_Dawg at May 29, 2005 10:33 AM (lfRuE)

15 OaKLand MieN CriPz to The FuLLest.....C.F.G....CriPz FaMiLy GaNgsTa

Posted by: LiL DuCc at May 29, 2005 12:27 PM (pO1tP)

16 OaKLand MieN CriPz to The FuLLest.....C.F.G....CriPz FaMiLy GaNgsTa

Posted by: LiL DuCc at May 29, 2005 12:29 PM (pO1tP)

17 OaKLand MieN CriPz to The FuLLest.....C.F.G....CriPz FaMiLy GaNgsTa ......FucK aLL BLooD....NiGga ...BK..aLL day ByTch....CrIpZz CuZZ....fuck a sLoB....crip family nigga......OaKLaNd ..Murder boyZz.........23rd murder DUBbz.......OaKLand MieN CrIpz....BaNgKoK BoyZz......IU MieN 12 KLaN.......fucK with it nigga ....fuck..all ya'll slob ....niGGa.....BLOod KiLLer .....O.T.C....O.M.C....A.S.W.....A.C.E.....A.B.Z....X.R.C...L.O.C....C.F.G.....J.C.C..... A.P.C......AsIaN..CrIpZz..CuZzz....OaKLand Murder boyZz....2300.............

Posted by: LiL DuCc at May 29, 2005 12:35 PM (pO1tP)

18 OaKLand MieN CriPz to The FuLLest.....C.F.G....CriPz FaMiLy GaNgsTa ......FucK aLL BLooD....NiGga ...BK..aLL day ByTch....CrIpZz CuZZ....fuck a sLoB....crip family nigga......OaKLaNd ..Murder boyZz.........23rd murder DUBbz.......OaKLand MieN CrIpz....BaNgKoK BoyZz......IU MieN 12 KLaN.......fucK with it nigga ....fuck..all ya'll slob ....niGGa.....BLOod KiLLer .....O.T.C....O.M.C....A.S.W.....A.C.E.....A.B.Z....X.R.C...L.O.C....C.F.G.....J.C.C..... A.P.C......AsIaN..CrIpZz..CuZzz....OaKLand Murder boyZz....2300.............

Posted by: LiL DuCc at May 29, 2005 12:36 PM (pO1tP)

19 OaKLand MieN CriPz to The FuLLest.....C.F.G....CriPz FaMiLy GaNgsTa ......FucK aLL BLooD....NiGga ...BK..aLL day ByTch....CrIpZz CuZZ....fuck a sLoB....crip family nigga......OaKLaNd ..Murder boyZz.........23rd murder DUBbz.......OaKLand MieN CrIpz....BaNgKoK BoyZz......IU MieN 12 KLaN.......fucK with it nigga ....fuck..all ya'll slob ....niGGa.....BLOod KiLLer .....O.T.C....O.M.C....A.S.W.....A.C.E.....A.B.Z....X.R.C...L.O.C....C.F.G.....J.C.C..... A.P.C......AsIaN..CrIpZz..CuZzz....OaKLand Murder boyZz....2300.............

Posted by: LiL DuCc at May 29, 2005 12:36 PM (pO1tP)

20 fake nigga mien niggaz Ckridah

Posted by: Red_Dawg at May 29, 2005 09:42 PM (lfRuE)

21 niggaz fuk all ya'll crip bk ass'z, us blood niggaz repraznt mann we aint gon take no cip niggaz fruntin on our blok, u c ma hood u get blasted if u seen in blu, i repraznt ma clourz till i die foolz n if ya'll discriminate red, den im afta u foolz, fuk da cz up, fuk da cripz, blood 4 lyf, repraznt

Posted by: kuniva at June 02, 2005 05:44 AM (uvEEC)

22 Fucc u Kuniva where yo hood at ill roll up in yo hood neday nigga my hood at da 209 Locctown cali , LoccTownCrip fo life nigga lets see if u gone last wid dat slobk clothing on in my hood. Fuccin Slobk ass nigga. C's ride no b's alive all slobks die under my blue sky. Kill a Slobk u win a prize kill a Crip yo whole family diez. LTC Crip fo life cant fucc wit my set

Posted by: Locsta at June 03, 2005 09:48 AM (lfRuE)

23 BK FOE LIFE SLOBS WEAR red FLUE RAGS BK BITCH

Posted by: OREL WELLS at June 07, 2005 06:20 AM (IR+QR)

24 i KIll SLOBS with MA 2 FRESH bLue RAGS TIED on my faCE ya ALL slobs YA better WAtch out BK BK BK BK

Posted by: OREL WELLS at June 07, 2005 06:25 AM (IR+QR)

25 WEStside CRIps til i DIE FuKK SLObs FOE reaal X3-13ST GANGSTA CRIP c_murda-KIDD-

Posted by: insane clown at June 07, 2005 06:32 AM (IR+QR)

26 orel wells u aint real u bkitch. u dissin crips when u said flue rags dumb slobk. and i dont give a fucc who da rest u are asian gangkstas run shit

Posted by: Locsta at June 07, 2005 01:28 PM (g9zxn)

27 FUKK ALL YA XSLOBDX NIGGAZ C'z up bX down Kill.Slob.When.I.See.Slob.....ROLLIN60NHC/GLN DAT ME SET U DONT LIKE IT FUKK U BITCH BLOOD NIGGAZ.

Posted by: bKillah at June 11, 2005 07:43 PM (M7kiy)

28 dammm diz shiii iz dope just got ma comp ..stealing makes up 4 it huh haahah shiii well fucc dem slobkzzzz 6 poppin 5 droppinn C a crip peace a crip c a slobk bust his lip watch his favorite color drip cant stop wont stop BK till ma blue casket drop 3x reppin east side gangsta mafia crip......ayt now foe all ya cripz bkoo all my niccaz repp da shiit and 2 all ya slobkz BURN IN MUTHAFUKN HELL WHERE YA SO CALLED MUTHAFUKN TRU COLOR IZ...fucc dem nigaz and if yall wanna get bacc at me here ma screen name- Tru FB BaSzNo313

Posted by: ni666666aaa my name iz omar at June 12, 2005 08:58 AM (6YZsv)

29 fuck bloodz Bk til i die nigga

Posted by: teka at June 16, 2005 02:29 AM (pO1tP)

30 killa blood you win a prize killa crip ya family dies nigga bk til i die peace owt.....

Posted by: teka at June 16, 2005 02:33 AM (pO1tP)

31 FUCK YOU BLOOD T.C.G BITCH TONGAN CRIP FO LIFE NIGGA CRIP FO LIFE FUCK BLOOD BK ALL DAY.........CRIP NIGGA FUCK BLOOD ALL THEY DO IS SUCK DICK TO THE CRIP NIGGA FUCK THEM

Posted by: BABY LOC at June 16, 2005 12:46 PM (Qg+a+)

32 CRIPZ GO 2 HEAVEN CUZ DA SKY IZ BKLUE AND BLOODZ GO 2 HELL CUZ DA RED AIN`T AT TRU BITCH CAN`T STOP.. WON`T STOP B.K ALL DAY EVERYDAY! C`ZZ UPPP FO LIFE CUZZ FUCC DA SKLOBZ

Posted by: X3_LA_CRIPSTA_MAMI_X3 at June 16, 2005 09:51 PM (AM8oV)

33 y0 wa55 p0ppin ni99az..it B datt nine3 H.A.C. nitty-gritty ni99a bangin on brab niggaz..wass muhfucken poppin ni99a..fuck ya brab azz niggaz 188 piru gang fo life my nigga wass POPPIN..93 h.a.c. hawthorne ave piru bloodz nigga all day everyday we bangin on brabz nigga..ya kumm 2 mah blokk an pop all dis shitt son..i B in n.w.k. hawthorne ave nigga brabz kumm thru an get sent back to yo pussy azz blokk ina ambulance nigga 1 Blood In Blood Out 5/50 poppin ni99a..H-BLOCK!!!!BRRRRRAAAATTT BRAAAAAATTTTTT!!! !!!

Posted by: ninethreeNTG at June 16, 2005 11:05 PM (zQCH1)

34 NUKKA HOW DA FUC DO I NO IF YALL AINT FAKE ??????? CROSS OR CROWN CUZZ? becuzzz i canttt stand fake assssss niccazzz so tell me where ya fo and who ya fo NOW GET BACC AT ME BY MY SCREEN NAME Tru FB BaSzNo313 pCe bkoo 6^

Posted by: Tru C at June 20, 2005 09:14 AM (6YZsv)

35 let it rain let it drip let hit a crip in the lip what my color drip ck ck iam from sky line any promble let catch fade i will hunt you down iam a trun female that a ryder and iam baby sun kizs and promble come ee me in cali san diego i will get my bros sister and my low ryder to come to the front of your house you wip your ass bittch b's up fo sho nicca sont mess with me or bloods none l,p,sl,none i mean chang your was befor i kill a crip in front of you then gret my crew to kill you sky line 4 life we dont give a fuck nicca 104% no muthafuckin kut bitchh a real blood no more bk or i will hunt you down on the reall iight 1 i can et into the computer and meet you on your door remeber o-blood was here baby sun kizs

Posted by: saexii mamii at June 20, 2005 07:47 PM (kbx/K)

36 ayy0 bitch 1st off i kill slob hoes 2 and 2nd off slob u cant spell 4 fukin blood shit so shut ya fukin face up .....ill kill ur mutherfukin kidz taht come outta ur pussy u fuking handycap muthafuker C'ZZZZ UPP - B'zz downn 6 poppin 5 droppin whass poppin cuzz EAST SIDE GANGSTA MAFIA CRIP + knightsBKridge watts street mafia cripz + 7 mile gangsta cripz + dont come in ma muthafukin hood wit yo slob clothe on it'll jus be anotha muthafukin slob dead off da fury of a drive by..slob shot 6 times wit da tech 9..CcCCccrRRrRrRaAaaAaAtttttTt CcCCCCrRrRraAaatttTtTtt and i kant stand fake ass internet thugz dat c sayin they crip or slob well if ya fake i piss on u 2 da fullest 1-8-7 on ya ass die cunt ass fukd up aol thugz

Posted by: omar at June 25, 2005 03:17 PM (6YZsv)

37 fuck all the crabs up in dis world. ck all day niggaz. B's up C's down. 5 poppin 6 droppin. fuck the flu clothin.if someone with blue on looks at me wrong, i'll smash them in the face with the lock tied on my bandana. fake niggaz thinkin they bad till they get fucked up. u gotto fuck sum1 up bad cause if wen u fuck them up they jus gonna try to get u back worse. so u put they ass in a fuckin coma. fuck crabs. all bloodz keep it real niggaz.im out

Posted by: ck all day at June 28, 2005 04:35 PM (1WVvl)

38 ayyo u muthafuka fuck u and your whole slob crew .....BK all day everyday ..suck my bklue dicc ..ill shove my mutherfukin tech 9 in yo mouth nigga and den ill pull da trigga and den ya gutz be comin out yo ass nugga so fucc u and yo momma nugga C'zz upp B'zz down wut nugga wut nugga wut ill kill ya muthafuking kidz muthafuka u handycap mutherfukin slob ...CcCrRrAaAaTTTt cCcRrAaaTtTtT

Posted by: omar at June 29, 2005 01:30 PM (6YZsv)

39 yo fuck ckrab niggaz. stop thinkin u bad omar even if u got a tec u ent doin shit wit it. yous a punk, i'll shoot ur ass up and put u in my trunk. fuck a tec nigga my sets rollin wit ak47s so fuck u. i dont even need a gat ill hit u with the lock and den ill carve ck in ur chest wit the razor in my hat. so fuck ckabs, blood niggaz keep it real and go through the everyday struggle kill as many ckabs as u can a day.

Posted by: ck all day at June 30, 2005 10:12 AM (1WVvl)

40 All yall niggaz is from Ukraine talkin bout bangin? Come to Kali where its real muthafukkas.. cK hK bdK gdK till i die, nigga B's up schmee's down

Posted by: 59PiruDamu at July 06, 2005 06:34 PM (Fz7uy)

41 fuCK all yall Ã‚Â¢rab ass niggaz..its all about dat B^lood fam hoffa atcha gurl! B^loodz poppin Ã‚Â¢ripz droppin I PLeDGe ALeGeNÃ‚Â¢Ke TO THe ALMIgHTY ReD FLAG OF THe UB^N. AND FOR THAT B^LOOD B^ATH FOR WHICH We 5TAND ONe 5eT UNDA B^LOOD AND ALL MY B^LOOD B^ANG FOR B^LOOD 5 POPPIN` B^IX DROPPIN Ã‚Â¢KT MYÃ‚Â¢A$KET DROP 5 LIVe B^IX MU5T DIe RE5T IN PEACE TO OG TYe. Ashe5to Ashe5 Dust 2 Dust In *B^lood* We Trust On Ã‚Â¢rabs We B^ust U Kill A Ã‚Â¢rab You Win a Prize U Kill A *B^lood* Ur Whole Famliy Die5 LetIt Rain, LetIt Drip B^u5t A Ã‚Â¢krab In Da Lip LetemFall Let em Trip Flip Da Ã‚Â¢klip Drop A Ã‚Â¢rip WatÃ‚Â¢kh My Favorite Ã‚Â¢kolor Drip Red^ To The Head, B^lu To Tha 5hoe Flip a Ã‚Â¢klip, b^u$t a Ã‚Â¢krip WatÃ‚Â¢kh That R3d^ JuiÃ‚Â¢k3 Drip What Do You Ã‚Â¢kon5id3r a Ã‚Â¢krab?? -A Fag Wit A Flu rag *B^lood^5* Are Red Ã‚Â¢krabs AreFLUE D35r35p3Ã‚Â¢kt My 53t And WeB^ummin 4 U ON BIG B's...B's ^ til my DEATH!!!

Posted by: Diamond at July 07, 2005 04:40 PM (M7kiy)

42 WHAS DA DAMN DEAL TO ALL MY CRIPS. MANN WHAT THA FUCC IS UP WITH THIS SLOBk BkULLSHIT U FUCCN SLOBkS YALL ALL NEED TO GET A FUCCN LIFE. CUZZ, CRIPS CAME FIRST IN THIS WORLD, AND THEN THESE LIL BkITCH ASS LIL SLOBkS CAME THINKN THEY ALL BkIG N SHIT MANN FUCC YALL LIL WANNABkES!!! AND JUST A LIL HELP 4 YALL, WE FUCCN CRIPS, NOT CRABS GET IT THROUGH YO LIL SLOBk ASS HEAD BkITCHES!!! CHUNK A LA DUCE TO ALL MA CRIPS LOVE YALL C'S UP b's down BkITCHES

Posted by: lil julie at July 07, 2005 07:45 PM (pK6gh)

43 dammmm hahahah who da fucc kuld say diz shit 2 me ....nigga who da fucc r u..2 tell me u gonna carv CK in ma chest hahahahahahhhah niggaaaa shut ya fake ass up ..niga jus tell me where ya hooood at ill make sure 2 come up dere wit sum tru blue on nd ima make ya ass say blood killer whasss poppinnnnn CcRrAaATtTtTT cCcCRrRaAaAATtTtTt and lil julie my niccca das all tru wut u sayin bkoo cuzz 6^^^^^^^^ c'zz up b'zz downnn

Posted by: omar at July 08, 2005 10:21 AM (6YZsv)

44 Fuck all yall bkitch a$$ $loc$ IM A TRUE CRIP FO LIFE NIGGA 52 HXXVA$ fo eva Stay Lockin Cuzz Any $loc wanna $tep $$C NO CHANGIN IT BK Bk Bk Bk Bk

Posted by: Taxi at July 08, 2005 01:08 PM (4sOBb)

45 C'$ ^ FO LIFE DONT EVA CHANCE IT YALL STAY LOCKIN IF A $LOC TRY 2 $TEP BKITCH $LAP THAT HO WIT YOUR BKLUE RAG AND $END THAT NIGGA PACKIN TRUE BLUE FOR LIFE YALL ITS YOUR BKOY TAXI THROWIN IT ^ FO THE SOUTH SIDE C'$

Posted by: Taxi at July 08, 2005 01:13 PM (4sOBb)

46 yo cuz i give a shout out to my uncle reggie alvarado who's in prison for representing the CRIPZ..u got my respect for teaching those haters who the CRIPZ are..i give respect to all the latinos out there representing for the blue flag...Jane sheppard is my hood..see an outsider i pull out my 9mm..boom..boom..stay out of my hood unless u dressed in blue

Posted by: Joker at July 08, 2005 05:42 PM (Qt0Xe)

47 Latinos and blacks run the game...ya heard cuz.. i give a shout out to all my latino homies, pedro melara AKA LATIN DOG,reggie alvarado,Yuri alvarado,Jonathan Rivera,MR.PELON, Osvaldo,Michael Duenas luna,Luis,euner,jose, and to all my JANE AND SHEPPARD, Jane & Finch, and woolner homies..respect i give as long as i get that back ya heard cuzz..

Posted by: Joker at July 08, 2005 06:03 PM (Qt0Xe)

48 I wanna give a shoutout to my cuzzin stephanie lucas and her sisters boyfriend for representing the blue flag ..you have my respect cuzz...fuck miss small shes a shit ass pregnant teacher..i give my props to haseeb khan ..rocky ganesh..gwels.and kashief bobb...peace out cuzz..

Posted by: Joker at July 08, 2005 06:15 PM (Qt0Xe)

49 .Red Lady. See A Crip, Kill A Crip, See My Favourite Colour Drip. B'z Up All Day Everyday. C'z Down, Knock Dem Fucken Crabz Til Dey Hit Da Ground. - Red Lady Representinggggg -

Posted by: RedLady at July 09, 2005 12:15 AM (MBTqo)

50 look a blood,tastea blood,fuck da dam bloods

Posted by: blue boi at July 09, 2005 10:26 PM (nHORG)

51 Wuz da deal im holdin it down for that $outh$ide oh h-town throwin ^ dat c fo eva baby yall crip$ out there dont eva change $tay locin im out 3pc 3pc 3pc BK BK BK

Posted by: taxi at July 10, 2005 01:28 AM (lXLJK)

52 WHASSUP 2 ALL MA CRIPZ ..YALL KEEP IT LOCK ND MUCH LOVE 2 ALL MA C'Z......FUCC ALL DEM SKLOBK BKITCHEZ 6 POPPIN 5 DROPPIN WHASSUP

Posted by: OMAR at July 10, 2005 11:23 AM (6YZsv)

53 FUCK Them B's cuzz The Crip Dominate cRip HOp 4 life dead to all them pussy Blood and a good blood is a dead 1

Posted by: Big West at July 11, 2005 12:20 AM (PS4iU)

54 Dizz 6e dat nigga young locc from dem 7 crownz niggas dat gansta crip set in norfolk virginia cuzz bkangin on these muthafuckin slo6s cuzz dees niggas thankin they can scare sum fuckin body cuzz they slo6s aint no6ody scared a dem yall fukin piru niggaz thank they can come to crip city va and take ova dont thank so 15 hoodz gat crips when 2 just slo6s hoodz we wiped out dat 9 tre bkitch azz set fuk slo6s and yo bkitch can suk my diack czzzzzz up cllllllllllat 7 crownz come 2 va bkangin dat ded red u ghost crackin kemo

Posted by: young locc at July 11, 2005 08:41 PM (te81p)

55 ay yo u motherfukin sklobk hoez ill make ya bitch luv me so im comin ta ya wedding and ima rape ya muthafukin momma u bkitch ass niggazzzz 6 poppin 5 droppin

Posted by: omar at July 14, 2005 07:43 PM (6YZsv)

56 Fuck Red Slob Bloods Killah Cripz da Cuzz / Crip 4 life slappa French Crip Block 75020 EastsideParis

Posted by: lil French Soldierz at July 17, 2005 01:55 AM (+Ehdz)

57 C^ a c^rip Pc^e a c^rip C^ a sloBK^ Flip da C^lip shoot em watch his favorite c^olor Drip 6^ poppin 5 droppin C^ant stop Wont stop BK^ till ma bk^lue c^ask3t Drop 6 crownz 5 motherfukin frownz Kill a slobk^ win a prize KILL A C^RIP YOUR WHOLE MOTHERFUCKIN FAMILY DIES slobz think there tru but dat tru iz dat blue If u Disre6pe3c^t my S3t we C^ummin foe you

Posted by: omar at July 17, 2005 01:21 PM (6YZsv)

58 yeeeeee whassupppp c^uzzz k33p It Cr1ppIn

Posted by: omar at July 17, 2005 05:41 PM (6YZsv)

59 Bustas Live Only One Day

Posted by: omar at July 17, 2005 05:43 PM (6YZsv)

60 FUCK fKoLK5 K!N999 WURLDK RLK 5 ALIVE !|!G26K CK X3K LCK VLK IGK GDK ER-DKAY 5 MERKIN 6K HURTN AMOR DE REY \^5^/ RLK

Posted by: ALKQN at July 18, 2005 06:03 PM (nDERP)

61 By now you should know that this is the B-K, nigga Slobs kinda deep but the Crips much bigger Blue Ben Davis and I keep this shit saggin' I'm proud that the K gang straight blue raggin' Nigga, what do you gonna do about a nigga like me? A Slob run up, I say: nigga, that's the C! That everybody know that I'm a muthafuckin' Crip I got a Glock 9 waitin' for you slip So Slob get gaffled like bitches when they chin checked Start wearin' the blue I got to peel cap That's in effect he's tryin' to fuck with me While I'm slangin' the ki's and makin' my G's, G What's the use in the Elm with a dead rag Leuders Park chopped up in the empty bag Holly Hood in a slip knot Moma's boy chopped up in a C block No pipe but I do smoke weed though A 20 sack got a bomb-ass endo Did it once and I do it again I'm from the C-O-M-P-T-O-N nigga

Posted by: omar at July 18, 2005 10:50 PM (6YZsv)

62 fuck punk ass slobs ill beat all ya'll asses u aint bout shit C'z up and b'z down crip 4 life and thats neva gonna change imma crip fo life and u should kno dis/ready to empty my clip in any slob dat trips/tryin to throw they shit up like they hard or somethin/come around my hood best believe imma start dumpin/on slobs like u that think they true/i keep tellin ya'll u cant fuck wit tha boiz in blue/dumb ass talkin bust a crip in tha lip/fuck dat how bout i bust u in yo shit and u can see yo shit drip/then leave a slug in yea head/anotha in yo chest to make sho ya dead/im tha throwedest crip that u will eva meet/when eva a slob disrespect they end up 6 feet deep/to every slob readin this YOU A BITCH/im tha type of nigga to put a toilet pipe in yo mouth so u can talk that shit/then when u done leave u in a puddle of blood/cuz i dont take that shit imma true thug/not no fake nigga a cake nigga unlike ya'll/i cock tha 9 back then blast ya brains on tha wall!!! ^^^rememba dat u slobs

Posted by: bkrian at July 19, 2005 03:38 PM (bgdNq)

63 to ckrip nigga ckrip niggaz ill kill a ckrip nigga split his wig nigga leave a nigga layin dead nigga im da thow'dest blood u will eva meet catch me red flag hangin bust a ckrab in da streets its me da yung blood nigga G.I.C.B nigga catch a ckrip let em trip n pull out da heat n hit em pull out da sheets n lay em n burn dey blue ckasket ima blood ill lay u out u fuckin punk bastards yall wanna kno watz real its me poppin yall droppin 5 poppin 6 droppin blood walkin non stoppin if a ckrab think he bad try to brag dat he real grab my steal bust his grill like my ice make em chill wats da deal ya wanna tho yall blue flagz up ill pull my red one out n den see if u tuff u wanna rumble wit dis texas blood i think not ima thow'd blood ill make snoop ckrip ass drop like its hot n if not ill show yall niggaz how to really gang bang im thow'd it even says blood on my chain ill let yo brains hang n let ya blood drip out n dey tell yo ckrab ass ckrew to shut dey ckrab ass mouf bitch ck all day nigga bet dat G.I.C.B 4 life 6^ c down blood crabz love run overcomes as our bloods depression shoot ima piru blood bussin dem slugs pushin dem drugz gettin dem guh'z im stealin yo bitch n shootin yo whip cuz i found out u a ckrab ass bitch if its blue or sky im not gon die if its red im there so ckrabz b ware aint no cuz bcuz its relative i flip my b'z up n ck cuz im true wit dis piru shit its neva gon stop not even afta my red ckasket drop if u see me on da left side im doin business its killin a ckrab dat make me love dis red flag hangin out back right side matchin my outfit aint no way out dis i aint tryna leave cuz dez cuz ass niggaz no longa bout to breathe i precede to proceed yall all find a exit i got 2 homeboiz n there name is smith and wessen

Posted by: ThOw'd Ck at July 20, 2005 11:24 AM (bgdNq)

64 cuzzzz nun of yall sloBKz iz CK'IN get dat mothafuccin str88888 dayummm cuzzzz AND WE AINT NO CRABKZ u lil BKITCH we mothafuccin cripzzzzz...and witt out us u slobz wuldnt of even been here right now ..... blue rag on ma head blue dickies on my legs STR8 BK'IN equals piru killa but i neva gave a fucc BK^out a damu nigga slobz C WARE 6 poppin 5 droppin cuzzzz whass poppinnn

Posted by: omar at July 20, 2005 04:09 PM (6YZsv)

65 AYY YAOOOOOOOOOO//////////// YALL NIGGAZ CAN SUCK MA SHYT AI....COZ ONCE IM ON DA BLOCKK ...IMMA CLOSE DA SHYT OF URZ FO GUDD>... EC Afghanz n Pashtunz

Posted by: EC at July 20, 2005 07:35 PM (Hx6o1)

66 BUSTAZ LIVE ONLY ONE DAY

Posted by: omar at July 20, 2005 09:08 PM (6YZsv)

67 cricket the crip is on your block so you better bow down before you get dropped represent ogden ut. west side crip 55th

Posted by: cricket the crip at July 21, 2005 01:42 PM (p2ZbK)

68 bang a crip when i see a crip let my favorite color drip more or less more or less y are ya talkin on the net anyways? fake ass niggaz 5.9 brims one of the originators of this blood shit all u crabs fall the fuck back

Posted by: CK4Lyfe at July 21, 2005 08:45 PM (PdGmF)

69 bang a crip when i see a crip let my favorite color drip more or less more or less y are ya talkin on the net anyways? fake ass niggaz u poisoned a blood nigga?! thats some real scram shit. u know he would of killed ya niggaz 5.9 brims one of the originators of this blood shit all u crabs fall the fuck back

Posted by: CK4Lyfe at July 21, 2005 08:46 PM (PdGmF)

70 ALL OF YA SLOBZZ IMA MAKE YA BITCH SUCC MA DICCCCC YEEEE THEY CAN SUCC DIZ BK^^LUEE DICCCC AND DEN IMMAA MAKEE YALL MOMMAZZZ LUVV ME 2 DEATHHHHH C'ZZZ UPPPP B'ZZ DOWNNNNNNN 6POPPPIN 5 DROPPPINNN CUZZZZ HOLLA ATT YA BOIIII

Posted by: CoMpToNiNthEhOuSeeEeEE at July 25, 2005 04:45 PM (6YZsv)

71 ni66a cripz rule INSANE PIRU bloods suck bk^lue dic^c^ listen you anit never going 2 beat cripsz asses so stop fuck trying you weak ass bk^itc^h ass bk^loodz my fucken grama who is what 90 yearss old she can beat you asses ahhah a shout out to my cuzzin omar and his wholeeeeee settt Eastsyde undergrounf gangsta cripz 2 the fullestt babyyy

Posted by: jassmine at July 29, 2005 08:56 PM (6YZsv)

72 ni66a cripz rule INSANE PIRU bloods suck bk^lue dic^c^ listen you aint never going 2 beat cripsz asses so stop fuck trying you weak ass bk^itc^h ass bk^loodz my fucken grandma who is what 90 yearss old she can beat you asses ahhah a shout out to my cuzzin omar and his wholeeeeee settt Eastsyde underground gangsta cripz 2 the fullestt babyyy ...... =] =] =] c'z up b'z down

Posted by: jassmine at July 29, 2005 08:58 PM (6YZsv)

73 Fake a$$ Ã‚Â¢KraBÃ‚Â¹5 uPP1n herKe! Ã‚Â¢K rK all day 5POPP1N 6DROPP1N.

Posted by: Brazy at July 31, 2005 02:17 AM (jaZO0)

74 watch ur back bitch cuz im a straight crip and ill put ur munky ass in a 6 feet ditch i luv the kula blu cuz i keep my word tru we make bluds go pop cuz crips lets unite and take it to the top crip crip BOOYA MOTHA FUKA

Posted by: never underestimate maori style at August 04, 2005 08:41 PM (LxMnb)

75 fuCK all ya CKrabs out ther. i'll cut ya fuCKin CLAlls off n eat that shit. C's DOWN B's UP. so fuCK all CKrabs ya shoulda been BLOODS

Posted by: CK at August 04, 2005 11:04 PM (ft/95)

76 Tai Kinh. Fuck yall FaKe azz slobk bkitches I kill U muTha FuccAz BkuRn In HeLLL!! Los ANgeLes ASian Crips foe 3vAAa.sup 2 Alz My CrIp Dogz n Da AsIan Gangz wez d0wn wiT.

Posted by: Tai Kinh at August 05, 2005 08:15 AM (xt3HZ)

77 W/S crip dont get caught slip up in la, niggaz dont play, lay ya to rest, cuz b's da best nigga

Posted by: Crip KiLLa at August 09, 2005 09:16 PM (kznob)

78 B"S HIGH C"S LIE BLUE RAG = BODY BAG, NO LAG, STUPID FAGS, GOT A MACK, U BEST LAY BACK, CUZ CRABS GON NEED ALOTTA BACK, LAY U TO REST, B'S THE BEST, FROM THE WEST, DUCK TAPE, HOG TIE U, CUZ ITS AL BOUT PIRU, MY RULES, YALL CS FOOLS, WE RUNNIN SHIT, YALL FUCKIN BITCH, DONT GET STICHED, CUZ I JUST GOT U RIOPPED, B"S uP stil bangin

Posted by: Crip KiLLa at August 09, 2005 09:22 PM (kznob)

79 good job crips rule

Posted by: nick at August 11, 2005 12:16 PM (TAZmy)

80 Fuck ya'll SLOb ass niggas. Imma a Houston, TX Crip. Ya'll niggas runnin' ya'll mothafuckin pussy ass mouth....FUCK BLOODS!!!! This tha H-Town Crip motto nigga: We ain't cool wit' tha bLOODS, nigga we ain't 'bout that. Keep poppin' off at tha mouth, SLObS about ta get they mouf cracked. SLObS cake assholes, they fuck ups, they scumbags. Instead of babies nigga, they should've been cum rags. BK ALL DAY CUZZ

Posted by: Houston at August 11, 2005 09:48 PM (WbVc7)

81 MAN FUÃ‚Â¢K ALL DEM WEAKA55 Ã‚Â¢KRAB5 Ã‚Â¢OME 2 MY G 5POT WIT DAT B^LU N ILL LEAVE YA WHOLE FUÃ‚Â¢KEN Ã‚Â¢HE55 SEE THREW N 2 DA RE5T OF MY DAMUs NI55A5 GET YA HEAD5 2 DA SKY N STAY KEEPEN DAT RED FLAG HIGH FUÃ‚Â¢K DEM Ã‚Â¢KRAB5 MO5T DEM GAY N IF DEY KEEP WIT WALKEN WIT DAT B^LU ON DEY GOIN 2 GET MURK N BLOOD5 GOIN 2 RULE DA EARTH 1DAY UBN Bs UP 5EX MONEY MURDER 031 Ã‚Â¢=Ã‚Â¢RIP5 R=RESPEÃ‚Â¢T A= ALL B=BLOOD5

Posted by: BLOODY DUTÂ¢H at August 12, 2005 03:57 PM (M7kiy)

82 AYe WaTuP wE aiNT oN hErE 2 TalK 2 u StuPid AsS slO6z wEre hEre 2 puT U muthafucCaz n yAllZ PlaCe u stUpId lIl oFF 6RaNdZ NoW lOoK hErE Dum6fUcCz how yall goN SaY YaLL RuNn thAngZ aNd thEreS oNly 75+ noT oVa 100 Slo6 gAngZ aNd thERs 100+ oVa 200+ CriP GaNgZ CuM ON nOW.......iF u LoOk CLosE aT dA #s so FaR U MUTHaFUcCaz r dyEn moRe THaN cuMn uP......WeRe ProUd 2 heRE thAT......CrIpz iS dOn THe DaMn thaNG anD wE alSO proUd Of DaT 2 6LeSs A cRiP soUl alL cRiPZ sOuLZ WhIle THeSe 6iTch ASs 6Lo6z dIe UndA r SKy wE alReAdy Kno U 6lo6z Iz GoN SaY suMTHn lIke U 6iTchEz alWaYz Do Go AHeAd WRitE wHAtz On Ur 6Lo6Y lIl MiNDz And PoSt It Cuz U mAKe Our DaY 6eTtEr JUs 2 kNO u MuTHaFUcCaZ rEaD oUr PoSt ANd didNT lIKE it....CaNT wAt 2 hErE 4RuM u 6ItHEs....wRiTe BaCc SoOn...........................BK wE hAVe IT oUR wAy

Posted by: 2LAdyzBkanGnCUzzBK at August 15, 2005 12:29 AM (6mUkl)

83 YEA YEA YEA WUZ GOOD!!! DIZ B YAH GUH 4RM DAT KALI BABY. I GOTTA GIVE 5UM MAD LUV TO MY BLOOD BROTHAZ AND 5I5TAZ 4 5HO. IF YOU GOT 5OME 5HIT YOU WANNA 5AY YOU BE5TA GET DAT 5HIT KORRECTED, ITZ BOUT DEM ~*~BLOODZ~*~ AND YALL MOTHAFUKIN KRAB AZZ NIGGAZ BEZTAH RE5PEKT IT. B'Z UP C'Z DOWN!!! HOLLA BACK AT YAH GURL ON DA B'Z AND FUCK DEM C'Z!!!

Posted by: ~*~KaLi LuV bAbY~*~ at August 22, 2005 04:59 PM (Gxp6J)

84 NIGGA THIS THAT MUTHAFUCKIN EASTSIDE LEUDERS PARK BOMPTON PIRU CRABS IS NOT FUCKIN WITH US IN THATS ON P FUNK CRABS AINT MOVIN SHIT AND THATS ON PIRU WE BE FUCKIN UP THEM BITCH ASS SMELLY MARKS AND IF YOU THINK IIM LYIN NIGGA GO TO BOMPTON AND ASK ABOUT US NIGGA WE PUT IT DOWN FUCK THEM BITCH ASS SMELLY MARKS YALL NIGGAZ IS ALMOST WHIPED OUT AND THATS ON PIRU NIGGAS CANT BEE US WE STAY BUSSIN ON CRABZ ASS NIGGAZ SO DON'T TRY TO SAY SOME FAKE SHIT LIKE YALL NIGGAS PUT IT DOWN BECAUS NIGGA SMELLYS AINT MOVIN SHIT WE DON'T EVEN BUSS ON YALL NIGGAZ NO MORE BECAUSE YALL BITCHES NIGGA YALL KNOW WHERE THE PARK AT BLOOD COME ON THREW WE THICK THAN A MUTHA FUCKA BECAUSE YALL CRAB NIGGAZ IS THREW FUCK A CRAB YOU SHOULD OF BEEN A PIRU I THOUGH YOU KNEW BITCH FUCK CRABS!!!!!!!!!! LEUDERS PARK PIRU HAHAHAHA

Posted by: ben at August 31, 2005 09:18 PM (U3D4K)

85 WERE MY PIRU BLOODS @??? repin Meadville PA nigga, all day nigga, fucc them crabs CK allday poped 5 and got 20 more to go peace PBL to the fullest nikka

Posted by: gregg at September 03, 2005 11:20 AM (8hT5c)

86 down w/ gregg... PBL all tha time flyin my flag 24/7, and if u a crab dont bring ur punk a$$ round me, get blowed off tha map... props to PBL,and GCVB, ck all day, and if u a blood word up homie...

Posted by: t-bag at September 03, 2005 11:30 AM (Ulj1x)

87 BLOOD PRAYER Let it rain let it drip Let a blood kill a crip Let it rain let it thunda Bury a crab six feet unda When i die dont show no pity Send my soul to gangsta ckity

Posted by: allan at September 05, 2005 09:25 AM (M7kiy)

88 FUCK YALL CKRABS LHCB LIME HOOD BOMPTON BLOOD FUCK CKRABS SURENO GD'Z FOLK N ALL YALL WEAK NIGGA'Z REPPIN DAT WEAK ASS 6 B'Z UP C'Z DOWN MOST OF YALL CKRABS FAKE FALSE CLAIMIN N SHIT DIE SLOE CKRABS N IT HAPPENS N MY HOOD ALL DAY EVERYDAY WHAT UP 2 ALL MY BLOOD BITCKHES N NIGGA'Z 2 ALL DEM PUSSY'Z REPPIN DA 6 LAY N STAY LIKE ALWAYS 1 B'Z UP 4 LIFE CK 4 LIFE

Posted by: YOUNGBLAZE at September 20, 2005 08:57 PM (Zcp0v)

89 di$ c jloc $ayin fuk $lo6 a$$ nigga$ pkiRu 187 $hoot a $lo6 in da head wit a mac 11.... di$ i$ a mothafukin c.r.i.pk aint no love for no nex lo6 cuzz.. 6 flyin 5 dyin .. we$t central pkarkway cripkz cuzz get at me slo6 niggaz ill $how ya'll wut$ really 6lood ... free q for $hankin dat $lo6 to death homie u ju$ did ur thang jus a lil 6ait area cuzz... c'z up all day everyday it$ crip all day u talk $hit n im gonna 6u$t ur lip.... da way da homie$ come through all 6lu nigga wuh u gonna do? c'z up 3 point crown up 6 point $tar GD, LA RAZA niggaz keep it crackin folk$...wut$ crackin loc$ keep doin ur thang WCPkC all day everydae...

Posted by: J-Loc at September 23, 2005 12:30 PM (mLA1k)

90 what's g shines 031?

Posted by: bG LO at September 23, 2005 05:20 PM (tGZIL)

91 Nigga fucK all you cKrabB a55 ni99a5, BrAaAaaTtTttt, ni99a, Blood5 Rule All Territories, What the fucK you bet Ni99a!? Homi3ide Holli5, cKrip Killa Queen5, New York Bity ni99a, 031. BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAT. Me33a - Murder Every cKrab cKhildren Alive. You aint a gang5ta without heart, and without heart you dont pump BLOOD. 5o all you cKrabB5 get PIRU 5lug5. RED fi5h 5wimmin' in a Flu 5ea, But Ice don't 5wim on fire, 5o let me B. Flu Bird5 Dont Fly Over The BLOODy Bay, Ni99a! Bet That, H.H.F. 5-50 BLOOD. 3-11 All Day Ni99a, cKrippppppppp Killaaaaaaaa!!! rK, dK, cK, cK, cK, cK, cK.... BLOOD Love OvercKomes Out Depression. R.I.P to the O.G. Tye. We B Mi55in' You.

Posted by: VenomScare at September 24, 2005 03:04 AM (M7kiy)

92 j-loc suck a dick n die ckrab this piru love allday flue aint tru if u got a problem 2 all da ckrabs ckome see me n bompton on piru blvd 5poppin 6 droppin da noturious untoucable blood gang 4 eva cant fade us ckrabs crips=cowards runnin in packs lol pussy'z get buck da fuck down fuckin wit us bompton bloods

Posted by: YOUNGBLAZE at September 24, 2005 01:45 PM (Ym93r)

93 FuCKin gay ass ckrabs lol. Alwayz talkin' shit. We Bloodz always flowin' biatckhes, like the veins in yo body ya snitckhes. Everyday cK ya fucKin' hos. Blood repin'209.

Posted by: BloodLuv at October 02, 2005 08:19 PM (IiMu5)

94 nigga n my hood we say fuck all crab azz niggaz e-ricket azz nigga

Posted by: da 6dropper at October 06, 2005 10:38 AM (H8ETq)

95 Wuts Poppin' all my tru dawgs thats down for tha *5* all yall craB ass niggas is fake as hell craBs dont say homie ********* 5 poppin N*T*G DaMu Eastside blatttt************

Posted by: eastsidemyhome at October 06, 2005 10:47 AM (/8hrJ)

96 Nine TRe Gansta*

Posted by: eastsidemyhome at October 06, 2005 10:49 AM (/8hrJ)

97 Nine TRe Gangsta*

Posted by: eastsidemyhome at October 06, 2005 10:50 AM (/8hrJ)

98 cK allday

Posted by: eastsidemyhome at October 06, 2005 10:51 AM (/8hrJ)

99 Yea i fucks wit u 5 poppin BhB***********

Posted by: B's up at October 06, 2005 10:53 AM (/8hrJ)

100 i down for that 5 Vice Lord Kill all hoovers

Posted by: C.V.L at October 06, 2005 10:54 AM (/8hrJ)

101 Conservative Vice Lordz People nation all day * * * * *VICE LORDZ

Posted by: C.V.L at October 06, 2005 10:56 AM (/8hrJ)

102 EAST SIDE BLOOD BANG 5 poppin stix droppin *** ***MILLER GANGSTA BLOOD*****

Posted by: leiutinant*blood in* at October 06, 2005 11:04 AM (/8hrJ)

103 B's up c's down 5*****poppin stix on tha ground cK allday blattt **********Miller GANGSTA BLOOD******* im in a class all bymyself pitch forks down crips respect all blood******* ***************blood love overcomes our depression************************5 poppin" FUcK all cRaB"s Blattttttttttt*********************

Posted by: Bloody*nell at October 06, 2005 11:10 AM (/8hrJ)

104 im G-mackin on these craB ass as niggas *****031*****im out

Posted by: Bloody*nell at October 06, 2005 11:18 AM (/8hrJ)

105 i aint blud or crip, but if yall was really bangin, u wouldnt be on this weak ass site talkin shit, youd be in the fuckin street, doin somethin, "LOUD NIGGAS TALK SHIT, QUIET NIGGAS KILL"

Posted by: dave at October 06, 2005 11:18 AM (iCfPB)

106 where u from

Posted by: Bloody*nell at October 06, 2005 11:20 AM (/8hrJ)

107 G's up

Posted by: GD'74 at October 06, 2005 11:23 AM (/8hrJ)

108 HE WEARS A REEEEEE~~EEEE~EEEEED BANDANNA!!!!!

Posted by: THE KING at October 06, 2005 06:05 PM (nnL/x)

109 eh yo, you cats don't know that this here shit is all typed in by old white men who want y'all to keep killing each other. shit niggas, y'all better pick up a book and learn that shit, i'm saying.

Posted by: what?y'alldon'tknow at October 07, 2005 12:28 AM (UiSun)

110 5 poppin 6 droppin yall know what it iz c a crip cut a crip watch my favorite color drip

Posted by: B-Red 93 at October 07, 2005 12:38 AM (9tBKN)

111 whats brackin, amor d. r. to all mah bloods out therr, so whats ckrackin, 5 poppin 6 droppin, fuck all of you muffuckaz crab. yall can't walk da walk, yall talk shit evry day but yall can't do shit, i hate c monstaz, 5 points all da wae. thas how i roll, fuckin flu, r.i.p. crab. , whoeva come n see me, get at me me muffucka crab ass hoes, ugly fuck, 183 piru gang, lay yo muffuckin ass hoes down, wooop wooop. 001 041 to all my bloods, we spread love, not flu like ck ck ckrab get at me, blaaaaat 5 poppin 6 dripppin

Posted by: piru luve baby at October 07, 2005 03:55 AM (fGFQl)

112 IGH 1 OF ALL U ALL ON THIS WEB SITE TALKIN ISH LIKE LIL AOL THUGS OF U BLOOD THEN GOOD REP YA RED IF U CRIP THEN REP YA BLUE IGH AND FOR ALL U LIL FAGS ON HERE SPITTIN YA KNOLEDGE U ARE STUPID U KNO HOW MANY BLOODS N CRIPS GUNNA BE USIN THAT NOW N FAKIN IT EVEN THEM WANNA BE PEOPLE WATCH WHA U SAY 2 COPS ALL ON THIS IGH C U LATA

Posted by: MIKE at October 11, 2005 09:06 AM (6krEN)

113 YO REMEMBER THIS: B'S^ ck'S DOWN. BLOOD ALL DAY EVERYDAY. PIRU, OUTLAWS, DIPSET, ALL THEM BLOOD SET STAND UP. EVERY BLOOD STANDTHE FUck UP NAH MEAN. I'M OUT. 5 POPPIN 6 DROPPIN, 5 BANGIN 6 HANGIN YEA. i WATckH A BLOOD KILL A cKRIP AND WATcKH HIS FAVORITE ckOLOR DRIP. REMEMBER THAT 5 POINT STAR AND CROWN.....~~~~~~~~WUN~~~~~~~~~~

Posted by: MZ.Thang at October 11, 2005 04:42 PM (6krEN)

114 WorldWide EastSide Rollin 40s Fruit Town Blood Gang 41 to 48 other Fruit Town Blood Gangs 35,30s,54,50s, 61,62,64,Las Vegas,Saint Louis,Sherevport,Oklahoma,Saint Paul,Seattle,Pasadena,and Pomona,much love to all Bloods AND Bloodalets on here C187um fuck all krabs and yall flue rags on here let it be a lesson to all you busta ass krabs on here there's a old Blood saying when the sky turn red all Bloods are never sckare kill all krabs till our red kaskets drop raise those B'S and B-Rags in tha air to show dem krabs that we rule tha world but a Blood makes sure the kolor red stays the most dominant till they bury him or her in Blood Bity.

Posted by: Tiny Stretckh at October 11, 2005 11:09 PM (CpCr7)

115 WorldWide EastSide Rollin 40s Fruit Town Blood Gang 41 to 48 other Fruit Town Blood Gangs 35,Rollin 30s, Rollin 130s,54,Rollin 50s,61,62,64,Las Vegas,Saint Louis,Sherevport,Oklahoma,Saint Paul,Seattle,Pasadena,and Pomona,much love to all Bloods and Bloodalets on here C187um fuck all krabs and yall flue rags on here let it be a lesson to yall busta ass krabs on here there's a old Blood saying when the sky turn red all Bloods are never sckare kill all krabs till our red kaskets drop 6 feet raise those B's and Red Rags in tha air to show dem krabs that we rule the world but a Blood makes sure the kolor red stays the most dominant till they bury him or her in Blood Bity.

Posted by: Tiny Stretckh at October 11, 2005 11:42 PM (CpCr7)

116 Amor to all my bloods brothaz n sistaz/wazz braCkin bloods/5 flaggin6 draggin/b-more/don't trip Ckrab face/day one/dime n nickle. 009/000/001/015/015/025000/031/041/buss 0001/12/no 13/130/357/ set trip u foolz b's up c's bow down 5 points sta5 re5 holla wun

Posted by: Lady-pirublood at October 12, 2005 10:08 AM (Ys2dx)

117 yo all ya pussy niggaz stop fukkin forceclaiming im a real o.g straight up cuzz if u got beef holla at ya boy in nyc bratttttttttt killa all day baby czzzzzzzzz'up

Posted by: youngcrip at October 12, 2005 07:58 PM (JyWne)

118 young krab that mouth is gonna git you in a wooden kasket one day who gives a fucc about krabs anyway yall dirty ass sea animals aint shit you a fake krab you wouldn't say that in a real blood facke bet that EastSide Rollin 40 Fruit Town Blood B's up CKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK all day Bitckh don't you krabs forget that.

Posted by: Tiny Stretckh at October 13, 2005 10:00 AM (CpCr7)

119 TY Stretckh keepin it gangsta on here this is what us blood dawgs do to fake ass krabs on here shoot em in the head and throw they krab asses back in the ockean where they came from bottom line every krab nigga and krab bitckh can suck on this teck 9.

Posted by: Tiny Stretckh at October 13, 2005 10:09 AM (CpCr7)

120 69, Crips wz started, we stand strong from the north to the south, east to the west to my nest, i promise i will do my best, i will never deny, always ride to i lay, in my nest, but till then King David will have my best, im a gangsta no turning bacC, kiss my flag, cuz i love my rag, guard my C's till i bleed, if i should die, please dont cry, take my flag, and use it to ride, never set trip, always Crip, love my Folk and my LoC, till i die C's ^ high.

Posted by: 8ball_bitch at October 13, 2005 03:54 PM (zHFSA)

121 NEXT TIME U MOTHA FUKAS SAY CRIPS R REAL NIGGUS THINK 4 A MOMENT WHICH GANG WAS MADE TO PROTECT THE OTHA BLOODS WERE FORMED TO PROTECT U PUSSIES UNTIL U DRIP MOTHHAFUKIN CRIPS TURNED ON US N THAN THERE WAS A RIVALRY U BES BE TAKIN URE SHIT UP CUZ TODAY BLOODS ARE THE MOST FEARED AND GANG THAT OUTNUMBERS EVRY OTHA GANG SPECILLY CRIPS.CRABS R NUTIN NO MORE INFRONT OF BLOODS. LET IT RAIN LET IT THUNDA BURRY A CRIP 6 FEET UNDA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCK ALL DAY ON YALL FUCKING CRIP NIGGAS BLAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BLAT!!!!!!!!! BLAT!!!!!!!!!!!! BLAT!!!!!!!!!!!!! BLAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!BLAT!!!!!!!! HATE BLOODZ ALL U WANT IF U CUT YO SELF BLOOD COME OUT MY FAVORIT COLOR RED BLAT!!!!!!!!!!! BLAT!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: BLOOD MOB CKCK at October 15, 2005 12:49 AM (M7kiy)

122 LET IT RAIN LET IT DRIP LET A BLOOD KILL A CRIP N WATCH MY FAVORITE COLOR DIRP CK ALL DAY NIGGAZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FUKK A CRAB

Posted by: BLOOD MOB CKCK at October 15, 2005 12:58 AM (M7kiy)

123 CRAB CILL RIP ASS BICTH LMAO FUCK A CRIP SUCK A BIG DICK AND DIE BLAT!!!!!!!!!!!!! BLAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!BLAT!!!!!!!!

Posted by: BLOOD MOB CKCK at October 15, 2005 01:03 AM (M7kiy)

124 FLUE FLUE MORE LIKE GAY GAY YALL CRABS NEED TO GO SEA WALK SOME WHERE DAME I CANT WATE UNTILL CRAB SEASON CHACH SOME CRABS AND EAT THE SHIT AND BUY SOME CRIP AND SMOKE THAT BICTH BLAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BLAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BLAT!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: BLOOD MOB CKCK at October 15, 2005 01:11 AM (M7kiy)

125 ~1~ LOVE TO ALL MY BLOODZ NIGGA KEEP YALL BS UP AN YO C DOWN CKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCK BLAT!!!!!!!!!!! BLAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BLAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BLAT!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: BLOOD MOB CKCK at October 15, 2005 01:20 AM (M7kiy)

126 5POPPIN 6DROPPIN AM OUT ~1~ LOVE TO ALL MY BLOODZ NINE TRE GANGSTA

Posted by: BLOOD MOB CKCK at October 15, 2005 01:34 AM (M7kiy)

127 IF U HAVE ANY INFO ON HAWTHORNE PIRU GANG TELL ME

Posted by: PYTHON91 at October 15, 2005 11:27 AM (Y8R9O)

128 WHAT'S BRACKIN ON THA BLOOD BOARD THIS IS TINY STRETCKH FROM THAT BACK THEN ROLLIN FOETY FRUIT TOWN BLOOD GANG B'S UP TO ALL MY BLOODS AND BLOODALETS AND PIRUS AND PIRALETS AND BOUNTY HUNTERS AND HUNTALETS AND SWANS AND SWANALETS AND PUEBLOS AND PUEBALETS IN THA WORLD FUCK EVERY KRAB GANG ALL OVER THA WORLD BECKAUSE THA BEE IS FOREVER AND MUCH LOVE TO ALL MY HOMIES AND HOME GIRLS BLOOD IN PEACKE FROM THA HOOD WHO'S NOT HERE I LOVE YALL BEE YALL WHEN I GIT THERE TO THAT BLOOD BITY ALL BLOODS STAY HIGH ALL KRABS CKHOKE ALL BULLETS

Posted by: Tiny Stretckh at October 16, 2005 07:23 PM (CpCr7)

129 Why do you all want to fight one another thats whats wrong with our race today. Too much killing not enough loving. I know that I am a girl and we are really not into all that gang realated stuff. But one of these days it's all got to cease ya know. It's getting played out innocent people are dying for no apparent reason just so you guys can make people scared

Posted by: Krystal at October 18, 2005 02:22 PM (p0Rbb)

130 fUcK CKRAbS OrIgINAl BlOOD gAnG ShoUTOuTS TO DAh ShirLEy AVEnUE'S FInEst FuCk EriCkEtS DEf StepiN oUT WiT MAh frESh red ChuCkS kHMer PrYDe ShO yaLL NiGGAs ThA REALESt StEp thA 781 ReVEre MAss muRdA WhOOp WhoOp brRrrRrACKKK

Posted by: YOung GangStA ShoRtyB at October 18, 2005 05:10 PM (hlA3J)

131 Its ya boy c lock from da rollin 20 s ya heard and n e of you fuck ass wanna bees dont like it come holla at me cuz im guaranteed to make ya colors drip to da floor to all my rivals go choke on a slob rag bitch rollin 20 and rover crips bitch

Posted by: c lock at October 21, 2005 05:14 PM (ywZa8)

132 LOL SHYT FUCK ALL U HATIN ASS MUFUCKAZZ OUT THERE..YALL BUSTA ASS LIL E-RICKET WANNABE'Z AINT SHYT...ALL TRYNA ACT HARD LOL YALL NEED 2 SNAP 2 REALITY AND GET IT THROUGH YALL HEADZ THAT BLOODZ RUN THIS BITCH AND AINT NOBODY EVER GON STOP THAT. 5 POPPIN 6 DROPPIN B'S UP MA NIGGAZ GET UR CHEEZE UP C'S DOWN WIT THERE DICKZ IN THA GROUND...WATCH ME KILL A CRIP AND SEE MA FAVORITE COLOR DRIP MUFUCKAZZ___C.K.A. CRAB KILLA ALWAYZ__BLOODS 4 LYFE TILL I DIE

Posted by: BaddBitch at October 21, 2005 11:59 PM (+dsBl)

133 it's always 5 guunnin 6 runnin bitch bbbbblllaaattt cllllaaaattt killaz all the way i read this lil wack shit and it's nothin to these chicks ya'll wanna dis us fucc ya'll mutha fuccas see it's crips like ya'll that get that 5 popped in yo ass bbbbblllaaattt bitch

Posted by: kita and esha at October 22, 2005 05:06 PM (TAwhf)

134 Alright, You Guys Are All Fuckin Losers If You Were True Blue, Or Real Red Than You Wouldnt Be On A Fucking Computer.. I Mean Shit Im Down Fer Both I Dont Even No What The fuck Im Talkin About i'm Just Tryin To Learn How TO Fold A Bandana.. I DOnt Get WHy You People Have To Kill Each Other i Mean There Reallly Aint No Point Except Revenage.. If You Have Dead Family its probly because you Killed SOmeone elses family or friends.. soo why dont you just be a fuckin american and stop this gang shit .. really just stop. from, True American Oh Yeah This Aint No Offence To Any One, Im Just saying That id Rather live a normal life than having to worry about getting killed or getting locked up or anything soo everyone just think about that peace

Posted by: True American at October 23, 2005 02:58 PM (UCswk)

135 5 poppin 6 droppin 5 gunnin 6 runnin 5 ridin 6 dyin 5 flaggin 6 draggin 5 alive 6 must die hit a brip upon da lip and watch the true colour drip

Posted by: G.K.B. at October 24, 2005 08:08 PM (NoXze)

136 DAmN!!!! yall bloods n criPz hate each otha so fukin much!!!

Posted by: Brittany at October 24, 2005 10:00 PM (UHP6S)

137 jus 2 let yall knoe im down wit da bloodz.

Posted by: Brittany at October 24, 2005 10:16 PM (UHP6S)

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November 30, 2004

I didn't even know Wierd Al was Ukranian...

....let alone Prime Minister.

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November 23, 2004

Terrorist Attack Averted in Russia

A large scale attack terrorist attack has been averted in the Russian province of Ingushetia. Ingushetia neighbors Chechnya and is largely Muslim. Just yesterday Russian forces arrested a top al-Qaeda linked terrorist. Russia is fast becoming one of our closest allies in the GWOT. Why? Because it is in their interest to do so. They stand at the front line between the West and Islamic civilization. Thanks to Jeff Quinton for e-mailing me this Russian Info article:

A large-scale terrorist attack was averted in Ingushetia, a republic neighboring Chechnya. The attack was ordered by Chechen separatist leaders Shamil Basayev and Aslan Maskhadov, spokesman for the North Caucasus antiterrorism headquarters Ilya Shabalkin said Tuesday.
"Operatives from the republic's FSB and Interior Ministry obtained information that terrorists under Maskhadov and Basayev's command were preparing a new large terrorist attack in Ingushetia," Mr. Shabalkin said.
He said that according to the plan, during a provocation, bandits wearing Russian solider uniforms would attack several public buildings and apartment houses with 120mm mortar and several large-caliber machine guns.
"The republic's law enforcement agencies conducted a series of search operations," he said, "and found a cache of weapons to be used in the terrorist attack in a forest in the Malgobek district."
A 120mm mortar, 74 120mm mortar shells, 35 antitank mines, four barrels for a 14.5mm machine gun modified for single round firing, and more than 8,000 14.5mm cartridges were removed from the cache.
An operations and investigation group is currently searching for the militants who were preparing the attack, he said.

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November 22, 2004

Russia Arrests Leader of al-Qaeda Linked Group

Russia's 9/11 was the Beslan Massacre. You may recall that Russian President Vladimir Putin was a strong critic of the Bush administration during the build up to the Iraq war. After Beslan, those criticisms stopped. America's new foreign policy must take this into account. Mosnews via Internat Haganah:

Russian law enforcement officials have detained the leader of a terrorist cell from the internatial Hizb ut-Tahrir organization, which intelligence has linked to Al Qaeda.
Alisher Usmanov, who headed a cell in central RussiaÂ’s Tatarstan, was arrested Wednesday, carrying explosives and Al Qaeda training manuals and flyers, the Lenta.ru news site reported, citing police sources in the republic.
The explosives indicate that the man, who was already suspected of organizing a number of terrorist attacks, including a deadly blast in Uzbekistan last March, was planning yet another attack, Interior Ministry officials told the Russian Information Agency Novosti.

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November 18, 2004

Two Arrests Made in Russia over Beslan Massacre

More good news in the GWOT. From what I hear, federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison takes on a whole other level of meaning for terrorists in Russia. As a side note, the evidence against Marina Korigova seems pretty weak. It wouldn' surprise me in the least if she was let go in the future. It also wouldn't surprise me if she was never let go, guilty or not. That's how they play in Russia. MOSNEWS:

Russian security forces have arrested two young people suspected of having assisted the terrorists involved in the Beslan hostage taking in September this year, Russian media reported on Thursday.
One of the alleged accomplices Marina Korigova, 16, was detained in the town of Nalchik in RussiaÂ’s North Caucasian republic of Kabardino-Balkaria. Investigators claim the construction college student had talked 16 times with Musa Tsechoyev, one of the rebels who took part in the hostage-taking in Beslan. TsechoyevÂ’s body was found among the rebels killed during the storming and later identified....
Another alleged accomplice of Beslan hostage-takers, Akhmed Merzhoyev, 28, was detained in the village of Sapapshi, according to a report by the Vremya Novostei newspaper. Merzhoyev Â“initially was among the terrorists who masterminded the operationÂ”, the paper reports citing sources in law enforcement agencies. In particular, Merzhoyev is believed to have provided a rebel base in the Magolbek district with provisions.
Furthermore, investigators claim that Merzhoyev had been aware of the terroristsÂ’ plans and intended to take part in the seizure himself. He changed his mind at the last minute.

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November 09, 2004

Hostage Standoff in South Ossetia Over

Long-time readers know that I have been following the low-level war in South Ossetia between the proxy armies of Georgia and Russia. The potential for this to turn into a 'hot war' between the two nations is real. I missed this news over the weekend, but apparently 40 hostages were taken by villagers on both sides of the conflict. While the hostages have been freed, it should be noted that the standoff started during a cease-fire agreement between the two sides. Despite numerous such agreements, the fighting always seems to start again. Both sides have agreed to withdraw troops from the region by Nov. 20th, but it seems unlikely that the agreement will hold. Like all such conflicts, peace will only be achieved when one side or the other realizes that it cannot obtain it's goals. Cease-fires, withdrawals, and negotiations do not solve the underlying causes of the problems. more...

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Car Bomb Kills One in Russia

Deepikaglobal:

Car explodes in Moscow, one killed person and injuring another, Russian news agencies reported.
It was not immediately clear what caused the blast. A police spokesman declined to comment on the incident and local prosecutors were not immediately available.
Police across Russia are braced for attacks by Chechen separatists who have claimed responsibility for numerous acts of violence in recent years, including suicide bombings in Moscow and the seizure of a school in southern Russia in September, where more than 330 hostages died.

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November 04, 2004

Russian Leaders Call for Taking Terrorists' Families Hostage

Last week Pravda reported that Russia's Prosecutor General, Vladimir Ustinov, suggested that a part of any future Russian special forces anti-terrorism contingency plan may be to take hostage-takers' families hostage. The comments were made during a session of Russia's lower parliamentary house, the Duma, earlier this week.

The St. Petersburg Times translates his suggestion this way: "Detaining relatives and showing terrorists what may happen to their relatives could help save people's lives, so let's not close our eyes or put a diplomatic face on it. When you live by the sword, you die by the sword."

Although his speech was met by applause, the suggestion seemed to have been met negatively in the Russian press. However, one important figure that has endorsed the plan is the Russian backed President of Chechnya, Alu Alkhanov. One source translates his endorsement: "We should do everything allowed by law, I think." He added that if the Duma were to pass such a law, then he would support it.

Chechnya's representative to the Russian Duma also chimed in: "Every terrorist has relatives, and they should bare responsibility for the criminal acts of their family members."

The reaction from the world community seems to be to unanimously condemn Ustinov's statements. Reuters, which has a special news service devoted to human rights abuses, reports that UN human rights experts have expressed concern:

Leila Zerrougui, chair of the United Nations working group on arbitrary detention, and Stephen Toope, head of the U.N. working group on enforced or involuntary disappearances, said this would "run counter to the principles of international law".
"Detaining innocent people as hostages of the state in order to combat abductions and terrorism is contrary to the most elemental international human rights principles and norms," the independent experts said in a joint statement.

No word from UN Human Rights Commission members Syria (a prominent state sponsor of terrorism), or from Libya (the country that trained terrorists for the past 20 years).

I do not endorse such tactics, but it seems odd that the UN would condemn what is really just an idea (probably with no chance of actually becoming policy) with such force and outrage, while they turn a blind eye and give official sanction to terrorists who actually engage in the practice of hostage taking and murder. I'm looking at you soon-to-be corpse Yasser Arafat and friends.

Linked at the BTJ, because I think it's a cool story and word should get out.

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1 Nov. 4, 1979 Let us remember that 25 years ago today, Iran took 44 Americans as hostage. That was the day terrorism really began, not in '93, not in '98, not on 9/11, but on that day, in 1979. If our govt. took notice of this back then, we may not have had those other attacks. Think about it.

Posted by: Laura at November 04, 2004 03:28 PM (ptOpl)

2 Hasn't Russia done this before though? It is my impression that they had already taken families of terrorists "hostage" to help end a crisis.

Posted by: Chad Evans at November 04, 2004 03:40 PM (0pEfd)

3 During the Beslan siege they rounded up some pro-seperatist leaders, but later released them. It was my impression that the officers in the Army responsible did so on their own, and not as a part of any larger policy.

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at November 04, 2004 03:45 PM (JQjhA)

4 Real simple, I'm in.

Posted by: Dick at November 04, 2004 03:47 PM (hu9UN)

5 The bin Ladens wouldn't have been able to leave the country so easily after 9/11.

Posted by: LMAO at November 04, 2004 03:53 PM (p5xDI)

6 This will never take off... there are too many soft lefties in the world today. I must say, however, that if my great uncle Egbert were to suddenly convert to Islam and start bumping off "Infidels" with alarming regularity and I got caught up in his madness, I would feel a tad pissed off. However tenuous, the people Al Zarqawi et al have been bumping of HAVE had links to the situation in Iraq (they're there in Iraq for a start-off). Personally, rather than family members, I think we should start bumping off those prisoners they are demanding be released as "payment-in-kind" for every "Infidel" they murder. Those two women (Madame Anthrax and her friend Doctor Death) should be beheaded and a tape sent into Al-Jazeera for world-wide Internet snuff addicts' delight and delectation. These monkeys won't care if their family gets killed, the sane half of their family probably disowned THEM many years ago. They will simply see it as a further affront to their "just cause"... they will see the death of these "important" captives as a similar affront but at least there is some military gain to be had from killing these insurgents. The election is over... Bush is in command for another 4 years... bring on the fireworks. Black Watch suffered fatalities today (probably by means of a suicide bomber) ... time to just get stuck in with every weapon in the arsenal. Come on Bush, play dirty for me. For once show that the huge great bomb is mightier than the rusty knife.

Posted by: Red Devil at November 04, 2004 04:49 PM (3e5Z+)

7 I see CooqarUK in the Bigley blog is now blaming Bush for the three British soldiers who got killed today....first fatalities from there too. Red Devil, I agree, we should behead those women the insurgents are wanting us to free and send the tape back to Al Jazeera. See what happens. Then, start beheading the Iraqi prisoners that were abused by our soldiers, remember the pics that got in the media's hands? Someone on here somewhere made a comment that disturbed me however. He said there are over 60 Arab nations that hate us...how are we going to fight this war on terrorism? Go to every nation and nuke all of them? Wipe them all out? Those that escape to another country and start spreading their terror there, what then? Nuke them and so on and so on? Makes you think, among all the nuke em comments, including mine!

Posted by: Laura at November 04, 2004 05:42 PM (ptOpl)

8 I seem to remember reading (some where) about Russia taking families of hostage takers hostage, chopping them up into bits, and shipping the boxed up parts in as a negotiating method. Am I thinking about medievil Russian history? The theory is the only way to fight an enemy like this, is to be more ruthless then they could ever hope to be. I'd give it a whirl!

Posted by: Princess Kimberley at November 04, 2004 05:57 PM (1qKIw)

9 Its a similar strategy to the Israeli practice of demolishing terrorists family's homes.

Posted by: Jane at November 04, 2004 06:03 PM (6krEN)

10 Hey Rusty: Negative reactions from the Russian press? Maybe their press is as much filled with liberal assholes as ours is. I think its a great idea.

Posted by: greyrooster at November 04, 2004 06:10 PM (CBNGy)

11 Damn it Laura: Quit worrying about CougarUK. He's an America hating, terrrorist supporting prick. Always has been, always will be. Nothing good can possibly come from reading that foreign piece of shits posts. Forget him. Take the families of the terrorists hostage. Treat them well but keep them until the terrorist turns himself in or is captured/killed. The victims of terrorism should have rights too.

Posted by: greyrooster at November 04, 2004 06:22 PM (CBNGy)

12 I actually don't think the policy is moral and I also don't think it would work.

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at November 04, 2004 07:11 PM (JQjhA)

13 Morality will not win this one. We've tried the moral approach. Doesn't work with these people. How do we know it wouldn't work if we don't try? I always thought that major mosques and perhaps Mecca should dis-appear and no one know who done it.

Posted by: greyrooster at November 04, 2004 08:21 PM (CBNGy)

14 i think its a great idea. these people may not care about us but they must care about their families. I dont think we should kill them just keep them imprisoned until they are caught. It must be worth a try.

Posted by: a sc ot at November 04, 2004 08:35 PM (SgQqe)

15 Rooster: I know, I know...but it's hard to ignore, he just pushes all the right buttons on me. I can't help it. I have to defend us. You're right though, he's not worth the time. Anyway, in my paper this morning, they interviewed two of the original hostages that were taken in '79. They said if they were taken today, they'd be dead for sure. They thought about it while they were being held captive, that maybe they might be killed, but it was unheard of then, and the kidnappers were AFRAID of what American might do.....gee, I wonder why they were afraid THEN and not NOW? Maybe because we haven't hit hard enough yet? Find some of these bastards' wives, sisters, mothers, and hold them hostage...then see what happens...yeah baby.

Posted by: Laura at November 04, 2004 09:39 PM (ptOpl)

16 Well, you have to remember this is the same organization that screamed murder at south africa at the slightest thing the white minority government did, yet just a year ago in zimbabwe this same lovely organization turned a blind eye to Robert Mugabe's "war veterns" commit acts of force sex (can't say the R word), pilliage and murder of the tiny white minority in Zimbabwe. So nothing now suprises me. Matter of fact, most of the states in the UN voted down any sanctions to be placed or offical condemnation. Go figure they'd get up on their hindlegs and cause a ruckus over a mear statement. Some people are ass backwards!

Posted by: Andre at November 04, 2004 10:28 PM (hD5mx)

17 ROBERT MUGABE's ULTIMATUM TO WHITE FARMERS WAS ''GIVE UP YOUR LAND TO BLACK ZIMBABWEANS OR FACE THE CONSEQUENCES''- In other words death. After reading the last posting I thought about this killing of white farmers. Why did Britain or America not send troops in there. Surely this was a former British colony and therefore Britain had a responsibility to protect the white farmers that for the most part held dual British/Zimbabwean nationality,as far as I am aware. It is common knowledge that most of the white farmers that decided to stay and refused to give up their land were murdered. Some of these Farmers famillies had owned,lived and worked the land for over 200 years. I'm all for land reforms but this was taking things a bit far. In many cases their black Zimbabwean employees were also murdered when they tried to stop Mugabe's henchemen taking the land, which was their only source of employment or earned income. Most of this land has now returned to shrub as the people that understood the land and the importance of alternating the crops are now dead. Forgive me but is there something I'm missing here. Why the silence and inaction from Britain and America there,what was the motive to do nothing? Why were they not inrerested in going in there? What's the catch? I'm getting a bit of a feeling of deja vu. You can guess what I'm thinking right. I'm just hoping its not so. The big 'o' word.No,couldn't be could it.

Posted by: sopotamia at November 05, 2004 12:20 AM (nW3Wc)

18 RHODESIA: Once the most modern progressive nation on the African continent. Now Zimbabwe, just another backward African nation full of crime and suffering. After they murder, kill and r word white people(and progressive blacks & browns) and starvation sets in, they will call on the nations with a majority of white people to save them. Zimbabwe is the product of liberalism. South Africa is going the same way. Just a matter of time. Heh! America why don't we import the white Zimbabweans and South Africans instead of raghead muslims. They have a hell of a lot more to offer. When I drive through New Orleans and some other American cities I wonder if it could happen here? Zimbabweans probably would have voted for Kerry. I know, I know, sounds racist. Not intended to be. Sometimes when you tell it like it is, it comes out that way.

Posted by: greyrooster at November 05, 2004 07:30 AM (CBNGy)

19 Anyway the taking of hostages by America, Russia or any country in an effort to save lives in the long run is okay with me. Countries, religion, families are responsible for what they spawn. If one of my children committed such horrible acts. I would want to hide my head in a hostage camp. The parents and families should feel shame for what they produced.

Posted by: greyrooster at November 05, 2004 07:37 AM (CBNGy)

20 LAMO and the greyrooster are in agreement on the Bin Laden family thing. They gave Osama the money that he started his terrorist network with. Probably, still do.

Posted by: greyrooster at November 05, 2004 07:40 AM (CBNGy)

21 Another note on south africa. The blacks in that country have been making this nice little terroristic threat of genocide. It goes to the extent of "when Nelson Mandela dies, we'll be killing you like flies." Nice, no UN condemnation once again. But Russia makes a statement about dealing with terrorist hostage takers and once again the UN member nations stand up on their hind legs in opposition and condemnation. Ass backwards I tell you.

Posted by: Andre at November 05, 2004 07:52 AM (hD5mx)

22 Greyrooster: Would figure they still are giving sonny boy cash. We should never have let the family members in this country go.

Posted by: Andre at November 05, 2004 08:56 AM (hD5mx)

23 The UN doesn't give "official sanction" to ANY terrorism or human rights abuses against innocent civilians, if that's what you're implying. Not Sharon's Sabra and Shatila incident from the early 80's, not Palestinian terrorism, and not heavy-handed Israeli military operations that kill innocent people and bulldoze the houses of innocent people. Contrary to what many hard-line Israel advocates say, the UN tries not to discriminate on these matters. (No, I've seen NO evidence that Kofi Annan is anti-Semitic, so give it up.) But you know, what the f**k do you expect from people when you control their territory for several decades and run their economy and society completely into the ground? Just innocent victims. Israel has nothing to do with anything. I'll get out my violin. Why do we have such low expectations for Israel? I happen to think Israelis are pretty smart people, and I think they can do a lot better job than they're doing. We shouldn't appease terrorists, but Christ, do we really have to try so hard to tick people off? As for Russia's proposed policy, it sounds tempting but it's pure idiocy. You can't defeat terrorism by adopting the tactics of the terrorists. If you do that, you lose. The only way to beat the terrorists is to act with grace even when threatened with barbarity. The Bush administration has allowed the terrorists to force them into end-justifies-the-means policies, particularly abroad, but that's COMPELTELY WRONG. We cannot allow the terrorists to damage our national character. We can do better than this. Rush Limbaugh said of the prisoner abuse scandal, "This is no different than what happens at the Skull and Bones initiation, and we're going to ruin people's lives over it, and we're going to hamper our military effort, and then we are going to really hammer them because they had a good time. You know, these people are being fired at every day. I'm talking about people having a good time, these people, you ever heard of emotional release? You [ever] heard of the need to blow some steam off?" Give me a break. This is America. We don't judge our morals by the standards of terrorists. We use our own standards. If they're beheading people, that doesn't mean it's OK to chop off peoples' fingers, just because it's not quite as bad. We have to define our own ethics and priorities, and not let the terrorists screw with us. If we do anything else, we lose. p.s. William Kristol, he of Cold War II neoconservatism -- a.k.a. one of "The Bombers" -- said people were "obsessing...about a small prisoner abuse scandal." But Rumsfeld's comments on it were perhaps the most disturbing of all. "I haven't been focused on the war of ideas, to be honest with you." Just f'ing great!

Posted by: trr at November 05, 2004 09:56 AM (j3Q+I)

24 QUOTE: "You can't defeat terrorism by adopting the tactics of the terrorists. If you do that, you lose. The only way to beat the terrorists is to act with grace even when threatened with barbarity." Hmmm... so the USA should have simply ignored what happened on 9/11, shrugged it off and gone about its business. I'm guessing that if that was the policy, there would have been a few more 9/11 incidents since... heck why not make it "National Terrorist Day" whereby any terrorist can enter a competition to see who can produce the most spectacular terrorist attack each year? We'll create a new "Terrorist Oscars". Picture Osama Bin Laden walking onto the stage to the applause of thousands of Americans, receiving his award from Dubbya... "Yeah, you really got us there, that was great. Here's your Golden WTC Award". Bin Laden, looking slightly embarrassed at the standing ovation, "thank you America, we are currently working on an even more evil and diabolical plan for next year. I don't want to give anything away because that would spoil the surprise. But if you want a tiny clue, make sure you order your burgers to 'take-away'". Fast forward a few years and Al Zarqawi is receiving the award... "Al, the way you lopped off that Engineers head showed just how committed you are to your cause... do you have anything to say?" Al Zarqawi : This really is an honour. To follow in the footsteps of a great man such as Osama Bin Laden is truly humbling. I guess I didn't think about it too much, I just stuck the knife in and wiggled my hand around a bit until his head came off. And then I was there with his hair in my hand and his head was outstretched before me, I thought, 'we've gotta get this on camera, this looks COOL!'", cue rapturous applause from the audience.

Posted by: Red Devil at November 05, 2004 06:01 PM (txiKb)

25 When are we going to realise the Russians are now our allies in this thing. Its time to move on fom the cold war Even if you don't believe in religion bet you'd rather have have an orthodox christian brother living next door to you than a crawling sand nigger.

Posted by: sopotamia at November 05, 2004 10:54 PM (KP9De)

26 Yeah, skew what I said if it's the only way you can make your point. >"You can't defeat terrorism by adopting the tactics of the >terrorists. If you do that, you lose. The only way to beat the >terrorists is to act with grace even when threatened with >barbarity." > >Hmmm... so the USA should have simply ignored what >happened on 9/11, shrugged it off and gone about its >business. Yup, this is the way you guys win arguments. You ignore what the other person said and simply pretend he said something else. It's what the Bush campaign did all season. Kerry was trying to turn the American healthcare system into the Canadian one. We can't let that happen! Only problem is Kerry never mentioned anything about a system remotely approximating the Canadian healthcare system, but what do Bush supporters care? They aren't really the policy types. They're more into following along behind a man with approximately elementary-school-level intelligence. Aside from the actual blog posts by Dr. R, I have seen not a single coherent argument here for Bush's policies. And I can only argue for so long with a brick wall. So, you guys believe in kidnapping innocent family members in order to deal with the threat of "terrorism." That's just grand. Reduce terrorism by becoming a terrorist. Excellent. >I'm guessing that if that was the policy, there would have been >a few more 9/11 incidents since... heck why not make it >"National Terrorist Day" whereby any terrorist can enter a >competition to see who can produce the most spectacular >terrorist attack each year? Yeah, heck, why not. Really funny. What would be even cooler is if you actually did a smidgen of research into the facts. Or, say, respond to my actual arguments rather than pretending I said something else. The society you seem to be envisioning is absolute hell on earth. National Gestapo Day. What happened to "give me liberty or give me death"? Your credo seems to be, "Thinking makes my brain hurt. And who cares about liberty?" It's a good credo. Joseph Stalin would have been proud of you. I also love this line: "I'm guessing that if that was the policy..." Lots and lots of guessing out there for Bush fans. Shore do beat in-depth analysis, don't it Billy Bob? That stuff is fer liberal sissies. Commies, traitors, ya know them people who wear them bell-bottoms 'n' stuff. P**sies. >Picture Osama Bin Laden walking onto the stage to the >applause of thousands of Americans, receiving his award >from Dubbya... > >"Yeah, you really got us there, that was great. Here's your >Golden WTC Award". > >Bin Laden, looking slightly embarrassed at the standing >ovation, "thank you America, we are currently working on >an even more evil and diabolical plan for next year. I don't >want to give anything away because that would spoil the >surprise. But if you want a tiny clue, make sure you order your >burgers to 'take-away'". Perfect, more fantasy for the fantasy-based community. In fact, bin Laden does have a lot to thank Bush for, notably: - before 9/11, John Ashcroft removed Janet Reno's counterterrorism bulletpoints from the FBI's planning memo. Former FBI counterterrorism chief Dale Watson said he almost "fell out of his chair" when he saw it, according to the 9/11 commission. Then, with threat warnings escalating, Ashcroft turned down a request for a modest increase in anti-al-Qaeda funding. The official notice of rejection for the funding arrived on September 12, 2001. - Bush held not a single cabinet meeting on terrorism until September 2001 - the Pentagon did not appoint anyone to its counterterrorism spot until after 9/11 (their focuses included Iraq, and ridding the Pentagon of anything having to do with Clinton -- who had made fighting al-Qaeda a high priority) - Bush spent all but a few days of the MONTH AND A HALF leading up to 9/11 on vacation, despite spectacular threat warnings that summer. Once, when he received a memo called "Bin Laden Determined to Strike Inside the United States," he broke off early and went fishing for the rest of the day. (This despite the fact that Bush easily had less foreign policy experience and knowledge coming into the office than any incoming president in history.) - after 9/11, rather than focus on tracking down those who mindlessly slaughtered 3000 American civilians -- bin Laden, Ayman al-Zawahiri, and the man who sheltered them, Mullah Omar -- Bush decided to go on a little foreign policy adventure the neocons had concocted in the 90's. A few months after 9/11, Bush said, "I don't know where [bin Laden] is. No, you know, I just don't spend that much time on him to be honest with you." He said, "I don't know where he is. I have no idea and I really don't care." He said, "I'm not that concerned about him." - Bush also said, "I am deeply concerned about Iraq." Iraq, of course, being a country that had nothing to do with Islamic extremism OR al-Qaeda. The invasion of Iraq has been the biggest boon to anti-American terrorist recruiting of any American policy in history. The State Department tells us that terrorism around the world has increased "sharply" since the war began, and that anti-American anger in the Middle East has reached "shocking levels." (Yeah, and for the record, it happens to be known as "take-out" here in America, mate, not "take-away." Blimey that bloody stonker; ain't it a littler bugger? A word of advice for you, though, bloke: make sure you mind the gap, but remember, no fags allowed on the lift. By the way, do fags over there still come wrapped in alumiminiunium? If not, can I get an aluminiuniuiunum laurie to take away please my good man? Make sure you check under the bonnet first, though. Last week I had a shagged propeller shaft and I hit a dumper truck on the carriageway. It would be a pisser if she wrecked during my holiday. And throw in a meat pie and couple of fags while you're at it. I like my meat raw and with lots of entrails. Ta. And ta ta. Oh, and tell your mum she was bloody brilliant last night.) >Fast forward a few years and Al Zarqawi is receiving the >award... > >"Al, the way you lopped off that Engineers head showed just >how committed you are to your cause... do you have anything >to say?" > >Al Zarqawi : This really is an honour. To follow in the >footsteps of a great man such as Osama Bin Laden is truly >humbling. I guess I didn't think about it too much, I just >stuck the knife in and wiggled my hand around a bit until his >head came off. And then I was there with his hair in my >hand and his head was outstretched before me, I thought, >'we've gotta get this on camera, this looks COOL!'", >cue rapturous applause from the audience. Really funny. Great to come up with stories about these guys, since you don't seem to have a grasp of the reality. Zarqawi was in the Kurdish region of Iraq (not controlled by Saddam) before the Iraq invasion. He was targeting the Kurds and the Jordanians, and to a lesser degree, Saddam himself. The US could have bombed his camp before the war but chose not to because it didn't want to undermine a supposed justification for going to war. After the invasion, Zarqawi had virtually no one left to target except the US (although he can still try for Jordan as well). He wasn't aligned with al-Qaeda until a few weeks ago, when al-Qaeda and Zarqawi's organization, Tawid and Jihad, decided to join forces against a new larger foe -- the United States. In other words, not only has Bush not nabbed the original leaders of al-Qaeda, thanks to his policies al-Qaeda now has YET ANOTHER big-time leader. And how is it that this incompetent administration cannot even catch these guys in nations it now has under its thumb? But no one seems to care whether or not Bush is competent. You know what? Writing these comments is too disheartening for me, I think. I knew America didn't understand the threats, and wasn't paying much attention, but the more I read on some of these blogs about just how skewed peoples' sense of reality is, I just wonder whether there is any hope for this country. (And it looks like the UK may be slipping as well.) How do you reason with people who don't want to embrace reason? When people care more about a leader than they do about what's best for the country, what arguments can one possibly make? It all seems pretty pointless. You know what? You guys enjoy your little obliviousness love-in. I can only take so much of it at once. It's too disturbing to me. So I give up. You win. When you think about it, how can reason ever prevail over ignorance? I mean, it's ignorance, after all, right? So screw it. It's useless. You guys want to be oblivious. Be oblivious! When you wake up from your coma, give me a call and we can chat.

Posted by: trr at November 06, 2004 06:41 AM (ASZ8c)

27 trr: Again, no solutions, no ideas to help just a tirade against Bush. Exactly, what Kerry did. Exactly, why Kerry lost. America wants to listen to solutions not crying and future forecasting of doom. Bush was re-elected because we (America) decided he would take action. Kerry wished to talk to the frogs and the UN thats full of little jealous countries who would love to see us lose. Wish you could channel your efforts in a positive direction and help America instead of throwing in the towel. Remember this. You too may be the victim of future attacks by these barbaric Islamic idiots.

Posted by: greyrooster at November 06, 2004 07:59 AM (t/n9o)

28 Simple,just dont argue. That way you will have an easier life. Then you will not feel the need to moan so much. Nobody is skewing your argument. Please just condense your comments a little. That way you will give us all a breake.

Posted by: sopotamia at November 06, 2004 08:07 AM (XwiPi)

29 You need to calm down a bit. Dont get so worked up about everything. If every one of you armchair moralist liberals actually had the gumption to to get off of your chair and get out there and do something about your convictions, myself and others might begin to have a bit more respect for you. You dont give any solutions . Talk is cheap and to you its cheaper than most.

Posted by: sopotamia at November 06, 2004 08:28 AM (XwiPi)

30 I'm getting sick of this blog. The more I read some of these comments the more I want to go and live in Austria! Even if I have to learn German, theyre more my kind of people. They dont take bogus assylum keepers or refugees and no begging bowl spongers. Thats my kinda people!

Posted by: sopotamia at November 06, 2004 08:44 AM (XwiPi)

31 RUSTY: MORAL. I respectfully submit that I feel that it is Immoral not to do everything and anything that can be done to save the lives of innocents. Which is worse. 1. Taking hostages and caring for them to prevent horrid deaths? 2. Killing innocent hostages? It ain't always fair but sometimes you have to do what you have to do.

Posted by: greyrooster at November 07, 2004 08:36 AM (JDP+5)

32 SOPOTAMIA: I wonder why Vienna is considered the best city in the world to live in? I guess the proof really is in the pudding.

Posted by: greyrooster at November 07, 2004 08:40 AM (JDP+5)

33 GREYROOSTER: Can't argue with that.If there were more countries where their governments actualy did what the people want, namely stopping their countries beeing over run by undesirables there might not be the tensions in society that there are between different ethnic communities. Whatever the politaical correcters might say it is well documented that most people of a particular race, ethnicity or religion prefer there own types.What perplexes me is that why when South African Whites are trying to sell up and get out before the country goes 'tits up',yet apparerently Whites from The USA and the UK are buying homes there.You can can get what is effectively a 2 million dollar home for a fraction of the price its worth. However I wont be tempted. When I go to sleep at night I want to kow i'm not going to be rudely awakened in the middle of the nighy with the Zulus at my door.

Posted by: sopotamia at November 07, 2004 05:32 PM (d/RQ4)

34 sopotamia: The Zulus are the good ones.

Posted by: greyrooster at November 07, 2004 07:18 PM (qxfuv)

35 You havent seen Zulu dawn.

Posted by: sopotamia at November 08, 2004 04:46 PM (6Wly/)

36 So who are the bad guys?

Posted by: sopotamia at November 08, 2004 04:48 PM (6Wly/)

37 Let me see now. That famous British defeat was in 1899. I'd be prepared to accept that things might have changed a little in 105 years. Have they realy changed that much? I'm intrigued to know more.

Posted by: sopotamia at November 08, 2004 04:55 PM (6Wly/)

38 Prior to apartheid's ending the Zulus were fighting the terrorist leftest leaning ANC. ANC was known for its attacks on defenseless citizens. For several years the Zulus were a force that kept the ANC off the streets. It can't be said that the Zulu nation was pro existing government but they did contain the ANC and as a result probably saved many lives. For not I fear.

Posted by: greyrooster at November 09, 2004 12:19 AM (aq8Ok)

39 yeah,its just a term I have heard some Brits use when on vacation.I think they mean it in the the back then sort of way,a time when Either that or its the Michael Cain movie Zulu Dawn

Posted by: sopotamia at November 09, 2004 04:54 AM (7ikgO)

40 Strangely enough though at the time when you said they are the good guys I mistakenly took it as a play on words e.g. (and they are the good guys) meaning they are not all that bad cause theirs worse.Having said that I was thinking of the name for ages and couldnt remember it,the African National Congress party or the (A.N.C).Thanks GREYROOSTER,I stand corrected.

Posted by: sopotamia at November 09, 2004 05:04 AM (7ikgO)

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October 18, 2004

Putin says what everyone is thinking

Via the Commissar and Kevin this novestiy Putin: International terrorists have set as their goal inflicting the maximum damage to Bush, to prevent his election to a second term. If they succeed in doing that, they will celebrate a victory over America and over the entire anti-terror coalition

Let me just gloat for a minute and remind y'all that I've been saying that Putin was our ally for awhile. I wish some out there would stop there bitching and realize that, yes Putin is a flawed autocrat with anti-democratic tendencies, but so the freak what?!?! He's our ally. Allies are built on mutual interests. Who cares if Putin appoints governors or if Yukos has to sell off a few assets? Hell, if appointing governors was akin to fascism then half the unitary states on earth would qualify. After Beslan, Putin woke up and realized what a tragic mistake he had made in Iraq. He believed, wrongly, that by appeasing Muslims by opposing the Iraq war he would by some sympathy. How wrong was that? It is only a matter of time before Islamic terrorists massacre French school children. When that time comes, France will be lucky that Americans have such a short memory span and we are willing to forgive so quickly.

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1 "It is only a matter of time before Islamic terrorists massacre French school children. When that time comes, France will be lucky that Americans have such a short memory span and we are willing to forgive so quickly" speak for yourself, the way I figure it once a backstabbing nation of weasils allways a backstabbing nation of weasils. I will never knowingly buy french products again, they can eat cake... made from crap for all I care.

Posted by: rumcrook at October 18, 2004 11:00 PM (s6c4t)

2 Putin said after 911 "We told you so, but you busted our balls over Chechnya" Putin has found that tapdancing in and out of the fray like schoolchildren skipping in a group in the playground won't work when dealing with terrorists.

Posted by: qpr jon at October 19, 2004 07:00 AM (mXWnw)

3 Both you guys-so what? We ought to do what is in our interests, and when the Frogs find a dirty-bomb in Paris it will be in our interests to help them hunt down the SOBs who did it. Emotionally I'm with you, but let's not act on our emotions.

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at October 19, 2004 08:01 AM (JQjhA)

4 "...Putin is a flawed autocrat with anti-democratic tendencies, but so the freak what?!?!" Wow, the drivel that comes from your mouth keeps getting worse and worse. I can't believe someone thought you were qualified enough to teach kids. Hey, Saddam fit those qualifications 15 years ago...how come we're not friends with him anymore? Oh yeah, I forgot...because dictators (read: "flawed autocrat" if their "allies") can't be trusted. But in the meantime, let's just look the other way, right? You know what's awesome? How 20 years ago people like you hated Soviet citizens for the same reasons you're so quick to dismiss now. I bet in 20 years, you'll love hard-line Muslims.

Posted by: Venom at October 19, 2004 10:30 AM (dbxVM)

5 Bush defeated himself when he started an illegal invasion(no, revenge killing is more accurate) based on presumptions that were laughably skewed at the outset. i'm far from being an expert on the Middle East but even i was able to predict the outcome of: chaos in Iraq, and global contempt for the USA.

Posted by: jack at October 19, 2004 10:44 AM (AaBEz)

6 Bush stuck a stick into a hornets nest and stirred, and now we blame the hornets for stinging him? everyone knows you can walk within inches of a hornets nest without being stung, if you so desire. its amusing to see redneck america(redundancy?)using France as a whipping-boy; at least france attempts to come up with solutions, and changes tack when the boat obviously flounders. ......and i'm sure the likes of Rumcrook up there sip Bordeux and nibble escargot frequently

Posted by: jack at October 19, 2004 10:59 AM (AaBEz)

7 nibble this jack, I just pulled it out of your mother.

Posted by: rumcrook at October 19, 2004 02:49 PM (s6c4t)

8 JACK: If jack is your 1st name. I'm sure that ass is your last name.

Posted by: greyrooster at October 19, 2004 06:32 PM (CBNGy)

9 May I remind some. This is not a war against individual countries. This is a Religious war. This is a war because one religion teaches the attacking and killing of others simply because they don't belong to that religion. The religion itself is the terrorist. Look at a map. Islamic nutso Pakistan is between India and Afganistan. Islamic nutso Iran is between Afganistan and Iraq. Islamic nutso Syria is between Iraq and Israel. Keep it simply stupid.

Posted by: greyrooster at October 19, 2004 06:47 PM (CBNGy)

10 Jack: Was able to predict the outcome. News for you fellow, the outcome hasn't come yet.

Posted by: greyrooster at October 19, 2004 08:19 PM (CBNGy)

11 greyrooster: Interesting hypothesis that Islam teaches that it's ok to kill others that aren't Muslim. I guess that's why there are so many killings of foreigners in Quatar, Bahrain, Oman, etc, all sanctioned, of course, by their respective governments...oh, wait. I guess you're theory's not right. The Muslim religion has the same notion about peace and respect to others and their religions as Christianity. As an aside, did you know that Iran actually has a small (but sizeable) Jewish demographic that is remarkably well-treated by the Iranian government? Jewish! So, how come they're not dead? Anyone that thinks this is about religion has lost all grip on reality. This is about power, under the guise of religion. It's in the U.S. best interests to take out Saddam because he wasn't playing ball anymore (see: Noriega), and it was in the best interests of those who despise American foreign policy to resist American encroachment in their homeland. This isn't about human rights, this isn't about democracy, this isn't about religion (despite what murderous Iraqi fanatics might think), and this sure as hell isn't about liberation. This is about neutralizing a former ally who had all his power go to his head in a BAD way for American interests in the Middle East. If you think this is about religion, you're being as short-sighted as those who are committing those awful atrocities over there.

Posted by: Venom at October 19, 2004 09:30 PM (h7+qE)

12 "This is about neutralizing a former ally who had all his power go to his head in a BAD way for American interests in the Middle East. " Annnndd.......soooo........what? It's bad to neutralize despotic dictators? Even ones that were strategically useful at one point? Even now that we don't worry about the USSR being in forced in to a game of chicken with ICBM's anymore? Now we just have to turn over the rock once and for all and clean off the maggots? Why not call it what it is? And what is essentially wrong with the way it is? What's the dealio? Sheesh...

Posted by: Tman at October 20, 2004 01:31 AM (yJWsz)

13 VEMON: Shortsighted? Or having the common sense to simplify to what actually is. The countries you mentioned have reason for welcoming the non-muslims. It's called technology and work. They have oil. we have technology and money. If Jews are in Iran theres a reason Iran can gain from them being there. Now you're telling murderous religious fanatics they don't know why their killing innocents. That's strong. You know more about their religious convictions than they do. Why bring up Christianity as a comparison for Islam? Muslim don't get along with any other religion either. You need to study Islam. Religion is power. That's the purpose of it.

Posted by: greyrooster at October 20, 2004 09:08 AM (CBNGy)

14 VENOM: I just checked a video to see if you are correct? While the ISLAMIC pigs were cutting the head off an innocent man they were not screaming power is great. They were yelling that god is great. If you cannot understand this you are as shortsighted as the killers. The Koran states that muslims must attack any neighbors that are not believers. Wake up and smell the shit! ISLAMofacists (get it) are real!

Posted by: greyrooster at October 20, 2004 09:22 PM (CBNGy)

15 Tman, So, just so I understand your position, you're saying one of two things: 1) it's ok to let despotic dictators to run free in the world, but only as long as they're useful to the U.S., or 2) all despotic dictators should be eliminated from power, acknowledging that they may have been useful at one point. If it's #1 (which I imagine is the case regarding U.S. foreign policy - see: Pinochet, Rios Mont, Cerezo, etc.), then it's pretty a pretty hypocritical attitude. How does a country claim that it wants to uphold democracy by removing tyrants like Saddam Hussein while turning a blind eye to dictators in its own hemisphere. If you're going to go around the world and take out dictators, take them all out. If it's #2, so be it - but I don't see that happening, otherwise Kim Jong Il wouldn't still be in power. And you know that the U.S. isn't going to try anything over there, especially with China looking over matters.

Posted by: Venom at October 22, 2004 10:06 AM (dbxVM)

16 greyrooster: Attibuting the actions of an extremist group to a general population is, again, pretty shortsighted. After all, that's why they call them "extremists" - because their actions are of an extreme nature compared to the overall majority. I don't see the entire U.S. population as murderous scum because John Wayne Gacey, Ted Bundy, and Burkowitz all went on killing sprees. I don't think the U.S. population is a drug-addicted nation because the major cities have drug addicts in them. And I'm not going to assume that Muslims say it's ok to kill non-Muslims just because a bunch of murderous CRIMINALS decide to bastardize the word of God and decide for themselves what's right and wrong. Again, your theory that Muslims say it's ok to kill non-Muslims doesn't hold water or we'd all be dead right now. Oh, wait, I forgot - your excuse for this glaring irregularity is that they keep us alive for their own benefit. C'mon, lay off the crazy pills, greyrooster. I don't see Christians as being a murderous religion just because there happens to be a line in the Bible that says "An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth," even though some Christian fundamentalists may say it's ok. "You need to study Islam." Thanks, and you need to study some grammar skills. Here's a tip: when you write a nonsensical blathering, try to make it somewhat intelligible. Oh, and thank you also for using one source (of an extreme nature) to try and prove your point. Far be it from you, I guess, to make a generalized comment about a billion people and not use anything other than a beheading video as your proof. Good job, here's hoping that master's thesis of yours pans out (though you might want to use more than ONE SOURCE to back up your ideas). But then again, YOU must know Islam, otherwise you wouldn't take that kind of attitude here.

Posted by: Venom at October 22, 2004 10:28 AM (dbxVM)

17 VENOM: Talk about nonsensical blathering. You make excuses for them while others are dying because of them. Why not take a trip to Iraq! I'm sure all the good muslims will protect you from the bad muslims. My grammer skills. Never had any interest in proper grammer. Sad but true. My children remind me all the time. However, since they are all driving new cars to college paid for by me they don't complain too much. I spent my life building America. Not tearing it down. Poor literary skills? yes, but I can design and install a bank of elevators in a 70 story building. Think you could? I don't think Gacy, Bundy and such sicko's killed in god's name. There lies the difference. The bible does say an eye or an eye. It doesn't say a head for nothing. If we did attempt to remove all the despotic leaders in the world people like you would piss and moan like you do everything else. If you are equating the actions of modern day Christians with modern day Islamics I can only hope the muslims get you first. Just how would the Muslim world have destroyed the non muslim world? It seems to me the capabilities are the other way around. We had better keep it that way. I don't know where your hated for America and its policies comes from. Maybe nature wasn't nice to you. You're one sick puppy. Maybe educated, but still a sick puppy. I reserve my hatred for those who hate me. Not my own. Anyway since you have nothing good to say about my country. Kiss my ass.

Posted by: greyrooster at October 23, 2004 02:11 AM (CBNGy)

18 greyrooster: Good for you for deciding that poor grammar skills aren't a necessity in life. I guess that's why you're installing elevators and not riding in them. But hey, if that's what floats your boat, again, good for you. And I think it's admirable that you bought all of your kids cars instead of teaching them the "hard work" mantra that you're trying to shove down my throat. Hypocrite. 1) I don't hate America. You might view that as such, but I think you're jumping to conclusions (I guess because it's convenient and you don't have to back it up). Please, show me where it says I hate America. I hate idiots that blindly follow leaders (Democrat or Republican) without questioning them when it seems they've messed up. My thinking that the current American president is a complete fuck-up doesn't mean I hate America. Far from it. 2) "Talk about nonsensical blathering. You make excuses for them while others are dying because of them." Are you this stupid that I have to reply to this? Apparently so. I was responding to your comment that all Muslims want to kill non-Muslims. Suddenly you equate back to the terrorists in Iraq (who, if you had actually bothered to READ my reply, I described as CRIMINALS). Let me re-iterate what I said before you decided to move the goalposts and change the argument: All Muslims DO NOT want to kill non-Muslims. Understand? If that was the case, relations with Muslim countries (like those I mentioned in the earlier reply) would be tenuous at best, instead of the cozy friendships that have evolved over the last 30-40 years. Stop being an idiot and learn some comprehension skills before you decide to reply. 3) "I don't think Gacy, Bundy and such sicko's killed in god's name. There lies the difference. The bible does say an eye or an eye. It doesn't say a head for nothing." Again, you're missing the point. My point was that you can't draw conclusions from a small segment of the population. I could try explaining this to you (again) but I doubt you'd understand (again). 4)"If we did attempt to remove all the despotic leaders in the world people like you would piss and moan like you do everything else." Nope. I would applaud. It would be commendable. But again, it's convenient for you to assume otherwise. 5)Your "us vs. them" mentality doesn't surprise me. And wishing me personal harm? ("...I can only hope the muslims get you first.") A bit extreme, don't you think? Or is that how you try to come out on top in a debate? I doubt a Muslim would want to kill me for no reason, but a terrorist/criminal (Muslim, Irish, Red Army, Shining Path, etc.) probably would. These terrorists in Iraq bastardize the name of God to justify their killing, so you hate all Muslims. So, does this mean that you hate all blacks because South Africa has one of the highest murder rates in the world? Or that you hate Asians because North Korea is still technically at war with South Korea (and, by associate, the U.S.)? Because these are the same kinds of generalizations you're making, regardless of the generalizations' content.

Posted by: Venom at October 25, 2004 09:30 AM (dbxVM)

19 A payday loans secured by a personal check - such as a payday loan - is very expensive credit. Let's say you write a personal check for $115 to borrow $100 in quick cash for up to 14 days. The check casher or payday lender agrees to hold the check until your next payday loan cash. At that time, depending on the particular plan, the lender deposits the check, you redeem the check by paying the $115 in cash, or you roll-over the check by paying a fee to extend the payday loans for another two weeks. In this example, the cost of the initial loan is a $15 finance charge and 391 percent APR. If you roll-over the loan three times, the finance charge would climb to $60 to borrow $100 payday loan cash advance.

Posted by: Payday Loan Cash at November 11, 2004 12:38 AM (5t/qY)

20 russia for ever!!!!

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October 06, 2004

Beslan Terrorist's Mother Banished from Village

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A peopleÂ’s gathering in the village of Elkhotovo in the Russian internal republic of North Ossetia, has ruled that Aleksandra Samoshkina, the mother of Vladimir Khodov, must leave the village where she lives as well as the republic, the Itar-Tass news agency reports.

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1 Banishment, while a favorite of mine; sadly wouldn't get past the dreaded ACLU Test in these Untied States...let alone any Global Test that would be applied. ... :: shrug :: ... One and one half cheers for North Ossetia! Mike

Posted by: Sergeant America at October 06, 2004 03:20 PM (qYUR6)

2 Do you suppose - after the election - we could banish all the democrats to France or Canada?

Posted by: Walter E. Wallis at October 06, 2004 05:10 PM (7XPVo)

3 HA Walter, I'm with you but send em to France, Canada is too close. Canada should also be very careful because they are part of this continent and Al Qaida keeps saying "will be coming to North America soon." Idiots. I'm not sure the mother should have been banished. She may have raised the guy but that doesn't mean she instilled in him this barbaric savagery these people deploy on a minute to minute basis. Once they reach a certain age, no matter what, the only person responsible is the person itself, not his mother. His mother should not be to blame for something he consciously did with his own free will. She didn't do it, her husband didn't do it - her kid did and he's an adult - saw the pictures - why should she suffer because her son made a wrong choice? Hell my kids make the wrong choices all the time but that's not the way I brought them up - it's who they hang with that does not help in that regard. Sorry but I don't think Mom should be to blame. ~Cindy

Posted by: firstbrokenangel at October 08, 2004 12:05 AM (D39Vm)

4 To continue, I feel sorry for her; she has to live with the shame of what her son did and that's hard enough. Banishing her from the village and tossing her out of her home only shows several things - women are nothing and can be tossed away without a thought. Human rights does not come into play at all. Banishing her is not going to change what happened and I'm sure she was just as sick about it as everyone else in the world was, but to throw her out of her home because of what her adult son with free will did? No, that's wrong but then women are nothing in that peace-loving religion, so they might have just as well shot her at the same time instead; banishment is no different than an exiled life. Where does she go? Where does she live? It's not her fault; she could have had grandchildren in that school and they'd probably still banish her because of what her son did - not her. Wrong. ~C

Posted by: firstbrokenangel at October 08, 2004 12:11 AM (D39Vm)

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October 05, 2004

Terrorists on the Run

Zarqawi becoming unpopular, even among jihadis.

Zarqawi wants to release Bigley, but fears Coalition pinpointing him during transport.

Israel kills Islamic Jihad leader. Hooray!!

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