August 31, 2004
8 Killled in Moscow Metro Bombing
I used to ride this metro system everyday. I have friends in Moscow. I'm pissed. I'll update this post later. Via
Jeff Quinton.
According to Itar-Tass, the blast was just outside the Rizhskaya metro station. Below is a map of the Moscow metro system. Rizhskaya is on the light orange Kaluzhkaya-Rizhkaya line. It is near the center of the city, just one stop North of the ring line. To put this in perspective, I used to live near Belorusskaya on the brown ring line.
Update: Via McQ at QandO it appears that it was a Chechen Woman who was responsible. Also, via Ace, the evidence now seems to confirm earlier reports that pointed to Chechen women being behind the Russian airline explosions a few days ago. The women, it seems, hid the explosives in a very, er, "awkward place".
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I see that Al Queda is trying to alter elections there before coming here. I too have friends there, so this angers me too.
Posted by: Michele at August 31, 2004 12:56 PM (2c9qq)
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Russia doesn't have airline security in place. Yes, the women were Checkyn and they were suicide bombers but I do not believe that the bombs were in an "awkward place," Just because they were women doesn't mean they'd put bombs inside themselves. That's just sick. Russia needs to put security like ours in place to catch these bombers. What is with female suicide bombers? Only men could come up with the idea that because they were women, the bomb was in an "awkward place." How the hell would they know? There was no body left - incinerated so there is no way to prove that. No one has claimed responsibility for either the airplanes or the Moscow bombing, even the Checkynan's say it wasn't them, so who really knows? Right now we know Checkyn rebels are holding 400 kids and students in a school they'll bomb if Russia tries to go in and from experience, Putin has no patience for this kind of thing, so if Checkyna wants the blood of children on their hands, they better walk out of that school.
~C
PS You haven't brought up Darfur lately or the UN not doing anything about it lately. I think the UN needs to be replaced with people who will do their job right.
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August 28, 2004
Two Women Suspected of Russian Airline Bombings
Chechen ERA:
Russian investigators announced today explosives were found on both planes that crashed with the loss of 90 lives, as attention focussed on the roles of two dead female passengers believed to be of Chechen origin.
The Russian press was quick to paint the pair as the latest in a line of female suicide bombers from the strife-torn Caucasus republic to strike, citing their suspected ethnic origins and the fact no relatives have come forward to claim their remains.
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August 25, 2004
War Imminent Between Georgia and Russia
I've been warning my readers about
this for weeks. Background in these posts:
War Looms Between Russia and Georgia,
Ossetia: Impending War, Georgia vs. Russia,
Ossetia Ceasefire Broken,
Ossetia Rebels on the Run
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I'd like to know who brought down those planes...
Rusty, about the bombing... that's been done several times now. It didn't dawn on me at the time that it could be related but that's really the only honest reasonableness for continually trying to terrorize that spot. Good job of putting it together.
~Cindy
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411 on Russian 9/11
****Exclusive Analysis****
After careful research (meaning me looking at a map and slapping forehead) Dr. Rusty Shackleford retracts his earlier statement that the bombing at a bus station two days ago in Moscow was probably unrelated to yestereday's downing of two Russian Airliners. My Pet Jawa has learned that the two are probably connected.
From the Moscow Times:
An explosion went off at a bus stop at 30 Kashirskoye Shosse on Tuesday, injuring four people, a Federal Security Service spokesman said.
Initially, my thoughts were that the bus bombing was not terrorist related, or if it was, that
this act of terrorism was not connected to the airplane bombings because this particular location is nowhere near any logical terrorist targets. However, it turns out that the
both planes that went down took off from
Moscow's Domodedovo airport which is
22 km south of Moscow on
Kashirskoye Shosse.
So, we have two planes going down from the same airport. The day before, a bus bomb went off on a bus line that leads to that airport. Is it a coincidence? Not likely. Further, more recent reports reveal that the bus stop was located across the street from a police station and went off at a time when police shifts were changing, hence a motive for this particular location.
Further, this is not the first act of terrorism on Kashirskoye Shosse. On September 13, 1999 a bomb went off in a residential apartment building located on Kashirskoye killing 19 people.
Added together, we have a strong case that the bus bombing was related to airplane attrocities committed the next day. It is even possible that the same person/persons committed both acts given the close proximity of the airport.
Updates are being kept by Jeff Quinton, Michelle Cantalano, and Blogs of War
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C'mon Rusty, as an ex- ex-pat (like me) in Russia you know that those 1999 bombs were not set off by Chechens. A few days later they found FSB guys setting up another one.
The planes I can believe are terrorism. The bus stop bomb? I think you're stretching the link here. If you were there 9 years ago, well, that's just before we left (91-end 96) and 400 grammes of TNT equivalent was nothing unusual. I remember being in the American Bar and Grill and a Mercedes, belonging to diners at another table, blowing up outside. Famous actors not paying their protection money.
As I say, planes down quite possibly terrorism, the apartment bombings in '99 almost certainly FSB giving a pretext for the second Cechen war and the bus stop, might be terrorism but more likely just "krisha" business as usual.
Posted by: Tim Worstall at August 26, 2004 05:23 AM (czhuR)
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August 24, 2004
Russian Airliner Down, Another Missing (Update: Hijack Signal Sent)
My regular readers know I follow Russian politics fairly closely. This just in from
Jeff Quinton,
news of two airplanes:
Air controllers on Tuesday lost contact with the second airplane with 44 passengers on board, Interfax news agency reported.
It quoted Emergencies ministry as saying contacts with Tu-154 flying from Moscow to the Black Sea resort of Sochi were lost at 3 p.m. EDT when it was expected to be 90 miles from the southern city of Rostov-on-Don.
Earlier Russian news agencies said that around the same time one more Russian passenger plane with more than 40 people on board went missing near the town of Tula south of Moscow.
When I was in Russia, some 9 years ago, it was not an uncommon experience for Aeroflot (the national airline) to land midway between destinations on domestic flights such as these. The crew would then tell the passengers they were out of gas, and unless the passengers forked over some cash they would be stuck. That was the sorry state of Russian airlines, but surprisingly crashes were few and far between.
One Russian airplane going down would not surprise me. Two, and I'm thinking terrorism. Remember, the Russians are fighting a hot war in Chechnya and a cold war against Georgia over South Ossetia. Updates in extended entry.
Update: A few thoughts
1) Chechnya. There is an election in Chechnya Sunday. While Spain continues to deny that the Madrid bombing affected elections, terrorist organizations assuredly read the elections that way. They bomb, Spain elects a government wishing to pull out of Iraq--no brainer. For liberals making their way to this blog for the first time and who have been led to believe that war in Chechnya is a simple war of liberation unrelated to the War on Terror, I would ask them to look at this pic of what Chechens 'freedom fighters' do to Russian soldiers they capture (Warning: Very Graphic!!!). There is a vast army of jihadis in the world stretching from the Phillipines to the Balkaans and connected by common ideology, tactics, and goals.
2) While I suspect Chechens are behind this, let's not forget that Russia is involved in another war in Georgia's South Ossetia. Ossetians are ethnically Russian and have been fighting a low intensity war of independence for the past decade. In the past two-weeks, the new Georgian Prime Minister vowed to take South Ossetia back and the shooting began again. The Georgian government has accused Russia of supporting the rebels (--probably true) and both governments have warned that there could be international consequences for the escalating violence. It is not likely that these planes were brought down by Georgians, but it remains a remote possibility. Background on the fighting in Ossetia can be found in this post.
3) A bomb went off at a bus stop in Moscow yesterday. Allah in public and Jeff Quinton in a private correspondence wondered if there was a connection since the Moscow Police have stated they think the bomb was the work of terrorists. While not ruling out the possibility, it should be noted that the bus stop where this bomb went off is on the outskirts of town--or at least, not in the central district in Moscow. It would be an odd location for a terrorist to set off a bomb. Moscow is not set up like New York of Los Angeles. There are no real 'suburbs' as we think of them and the farther you get from the center the farther you get from everything. Unless the Chechens are adopting Hamas style bus bombing tactics, it seems an odd location. My experience is that the Moscow Police are quick to shoot off their mouths and to blame anything out of the ordinary on Chechens or other 'undesirables'. Think Sherrif Roscoe P. Coletrain, only a heavy drinker, slightly corrupt, and a whole lot more of a biggot--that's your average cop in Russia.
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Posted by: firstbrokenangel at August 24, 2004 06:22 PM (t0rjm)
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Is there any word on these planes? Were they shot down, do you think? I have pictures of Checkyn rebels, small video, doing to a russian solder a wee bit worse than the one you have and if you need it, I will find it for you; it's a good one to show the brutality of these rebels.
I know and follow what is going on in Georgia as well as what is going on in Sudan, Chad and Bulgaria. Although there are a few of us who are concerned about this - and everyone should be - the little video shows the barbarism of their actions to the Russian soldiers.
Let me know and I'll find it among the thousands of bookmarks I have; people should see because crualty like this should never be tolerated. There is also a video of a guy who has a shoulder RPG after a helicopter. This terrorism has got to stop; it's getting way out of hand. Let me know what you need and I'll send it to you.
~C
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at August 24, 2004 10:47 PM (t0rjm)
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Wizbangblof on their site said both planes crashed.
~C
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at August 25, 2004 12:00 AM (t0rjm)
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Found this on NEIN:
In an obvious act of coordinated terrorism, two Russian passenger airliners originating from Moscow's Domodedovo Airport were blown from the skies within minutes of each other, killing all 90 passengers and crew from both aircraft. In the wake of Chechnyan elections scheduled for this Sunday, Russian officials had expressed previous concerns of terrorist acts in the days leading up the elections. The upcoming elections will choose a successor to Akhmad Kadyrov, who was assassinated on May 9th in the Chechen capital of Grozny.
Debris from the Tupolev TU-154 that carried 38 passengers and 8 crew members from Moscow was discovered in the Rostov region; debris from the second flight also originating from Moscow, a Volga Avia Express TU-134 carrying 35 passengers and 9 crew members was found in the Tula region, 125 miles south of Moscow. Witnesses in Tula reported seeing an explosion before the plane plunged out of the sky.
Sources within US Intelligence Agencies have expressed concern for an increase of terrorist events in the United States in the days leading up to the November presidential elections. Intelligence analysts from the Northeast Intelligence Network have found signs of cooperative efforts between Chechen separatist rebels and Islamic fundamentalists from al Qaeda, especially in recent months, based on Internet communications and US government sources. This incident appears to have the signature of al Qaeda, and is privately causing further concern for the November elections here in the US.
Cindy
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Does anyone have a list of the passengers who died on this plane. I have dear friends that live in the region and I want to make sure that they were not on the planes. Thanks
Posted by: Ros at August 29, 2004 11:08 AM (efpyF)
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Bomb chechnya and kill all the muslim chechen dogs
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August 19, 2004
Ossetia Rebels on the Run
Once again, this is not looking good. I have no bone to pick with Georgia, I just worry this could lead to a regional conflict. Background
here. More below.
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death to all russians ossetians and abkhazians!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: q at April 14, 2005 08:35 AM (3m0k7)
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for god's sake
Give the Abkhazians and the Georgian Ossetians, and the Chechens, Dagestanis, Ingushetians etc. etc. for that matter, their own nations
What difference does it make to you Russians and Georgians?
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August 16, 2004
Ossetia Ceasefire Broken
Thanks to
Jane for e-mailing me about a surprisingly cogent analysis of the crisis that looms between Georgia and Russia over Ossetia--found in all places the
Arab News. Unfortunately, it looks like the cease-fire brokered over the weekend may already be collapsing. Story in extended entry.
Background on the conflict here. For other Russia related news, see Winds of Change which has a monthly roundup on the region.
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August 13, 2004
Georgia and Separatist S.Ossetia Agree Cease-Fire
I know I may be the only blogger out here who cares about this. What can I say?
Ya za Rossii. If you are one of the three readers who have been following this, go to the extended entry for some good news. Hopefully, this is not the calm that preceeds the storm.
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Good news. You don't hear much about this situation, or the rest of the Caucasus for that matter.
Posted by: mal at August 13, 2004 06:31 PM (eKX+H)
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You are fulfilling one of the great tasks of the blogosphere, keeping people updated on things that they don't hear much about in the "major media" or "mainstream news organizations." Bravo.
Posted by: The Maximum Leader at August 13, 2004 09:18 PM (WGsVg)
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Rusty,
I devote some time to Russia area items too. Glad to see I am not the only one.
I do a monthly Russia briefing at WindsofChange.net, if you are intersted. Would love to hear from you on some of the issues covered.
Posted by: Joel (No Pundit Intended) at August 14, 2004 09:50 AM (YbRgb)
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I hope this works. There is too much stuff over there to let things get so out of control that any of these little countries made after the Fall of the Soviet Union, could end up nuking the entire world. Checknya (sp?) has been a thorn in Putin's side and if these people start fighting them too - anything and everything could go and that is NOT a good thing at all!
~C
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at August 14, 2004 10:59 AM (t0rjm)
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Keep it up, man - we can't let events in Russia slip under the radar. We've got to keep one eye on Putin at all times.
Posted by: Johnny Walker Red at August 14, 2004 12:30 PM (TLLNn)
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Ossetia: Impending War, Georgia vs. Russia
The fighting between ethnic Russians in Ossetia and Georgia is
escalating. This is not good. Up til now, Russia has fought this war through it's proxies in the Ossetian resistance. If Russia refuses to withdraw it's 'peacekeepers', this could escelate from civil war to full fledged international conflict. Further, other regional actors could get drawn into the fight in an effort to exploit the instability.
I have been speculating for some time that the reason Putin suddenly decided to improve relations with the US, by backing our pre-war claims of WMD in Iraq, was that he wanted a free hand in dealing with the Chechen rebels. I now wonder if Ossetia was part of his calculations? It should be noted that Georgian troops are US trained, while Ossetian rebels are backed by Russia. News and other info in extended entry.
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