One of my blog sons, Brian B., tells me there is a new satire blog he's involved in--
. Personally I'm betting on October 5th, 2034 as the official date for the Constitution's demise. Anyhow,
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CHIMPY is on the loose again...
Posted by: BUSH LIES - SOLDIERS DIE at June 27, 2005 06:32 PM (FV4oJ)
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CHIMPY IS the Dark Side - your impersonal Jesus, distracting you from his oversea killing field, done in the name of his false God. Bless Him, Luke's Father, for he has sinned. His Kingdom lost, America double-crossed as in hell forever.
Posted by: BUSH LIES - SOLDIERS DIE at June 27, 2005 06:41 PM (FV4oJ)
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You guys are both retarded; the Constitution died 4/8/1913. [ratification of the 17th Amendment, which effectively eliminated the 10th Amendment]
Posted by: Leopold Stotch at June 27, 2005 06:46 PM (tt834)
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False Jesus CHIMPY keeps lying and soldiers keep dying:
Tuesday, June 28, 2005
Guerrillas Shoot Down US Helicopter
Bombings in Baghdad
Bush Presses Blair for More Troops
Guerrillas using a shoulder-held missile launcher, probably an SA-16, shot down a US Apache helicopter Monday north of Baghdad, killing both servicemen aboard. AP reports, ' "Witness Mohammed Naji told Associated Press Television News he saw two helicopters flying toward Mishahda when "a rocket hit one of them and destroyed it completely in the air" . . . Heavy gunfire was heard at the time of the crash and shots also were heard afterward, the AP reporter said. ' If this is the future of the guerrilla war, US casualties will rise dramatically.
In another attack on Monday, guerrillas detonated a massive bomb aiming at a US military convoy in Baghdad during the early evening, but missed. It went off between the al-Bida'a Cinema and the Sunni al-Samarra'i Mosque, killing at least four Iraqi by-standers and wounding 16 others. AP says people were shopping in the New Baghdad area "before the curfew." There's a night-time curfew in Baghdad?
Posted by: BUSH LIES - SOLDIERS DIE at June 27, 2005 07:00 PM (FV4oJ)
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King Phallus Monkeykeeper Steel-Teeth/Concrete-Jaws CHENEY lies even worse to support his HELLIBACON empire.
Dick Cheney should confront reality
Gen. Abizaid's testimony confirmed the Iraq insurgency is far from its 'last throes.' Still, the vice president shows persistent disdain for that truth.
The Roanoke Times
Dick Cheney, meet reality.
The vice president's long-overdue introduction to reality came courtesy of Gen. John P. Abizaid's testimony Thursday before the Senate Armed Services Committee that directly contradicted Cheney's rosy assessment of an Iraq insurgency in its "last throes." Abizaid made it clear that the insurgency was every bit as strong as it was six months ago and that foreign fighters were still joining the battle. A few days before, Abizaid told the Houston Chronicle that the United States was in for an indefinite fight that would "cost in blood and treasure."
Posted by: BUSH LIES - SOLDIERS DIE at June 27, 2005 07:04 PM (FV4oJ)
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Torture-monger C H I M P Y and Monkeykeeper C H E N E Y
TORTURE PRISONERS and KILL THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE
USA Reported to Have Confirmed Torture
Le Nouvel Observateur
Sunday 26 June 2005
According to a UN official, the United States has acknowledged cases of torture inflicted on prisoners in Afghanistan, in Iraq and at Guantánamo.
The United States has acknowledged to the UN that there are cases of torture inflicted on prisoners in Afghanistan and in Iraq, as well as on the American base at Guantánamo, a member of the UN's Committee against Torture pronounced Friday, June 24.
According to this official - who wished to remain anonymous - in a report handed over to the Committee, Washington acknowledged that the abusive treatment inflicted on prisoners at the hands of American forces could be considered torture in the sense of the International Convention against Torture.
The United States' Mission to the United Nations in Geneva could not be reached Friday evening to comment on this information.
Up until now, the United States has always maintained that the abusive treatment inflicted on prisoners at the hands of its Armed Forces could not be considered torture under American law.
Posted by: BUSH LIES - SOLDIERS DIE at June 27, 2005 07:08 PM (FV4oJ)
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C H I M P Y is YOUR FALSE JESUS torturing and killing in YOUR NAME - wrapping GUNS and BOMBS in BURNING AMERICAN FLAGS to KILL
Posted by: BUSH LIES - SOLDIERS DIE at June 27, 2005 07:10 PM (FV4oJ)
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YOUR TORTURING PSYCHO CHIMPY and HIS HANDIWORK
http://cryptome.org/bush-fist.htm
WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: BUSH LIES - SOLDIERS DIE at June 27, 2005 07:16 PM (FV4oJ)
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http://www.obleek.com/iraq/index.html
C H I M P Y the FALSE SHEPHERD leads people to DIE from IRON RAIN
Posted by: BUSH LIES - SOLDIERS DIE at June 27, 2005 07:18 PM (FV4oJ)
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CHIMPY's PLAN:
Articulating The Unspeakable: The Strategy Of Genocide:
The USA must begin dealing with Muslims as a people with a unique culture and religion, worthy of the respect and humanity which the USA says it has for all peoples. The Islam of the Qur'an is a righteous religion, supporting a unique form of culture and civilization. Let's make peace with its people.
By Casey Butler
06/27/05 "ICH" - - The real tragedy of the "War on Terror" is the religious ignorance of the secular Western nations who are waging it.
Or is it ignorance? Could the most experienced and, one assumes, most efficient intelligence agencies in the world have really failed to read the Holy Book used by the 'enemies' they are 'rooting out' today?
Please consider the following Islamic truism from the Qur'an:
"Tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter"
Over the last two years the American administration's successive justifications for pre-emptive war have been peeled away like the outer garments of Gypsy Rose Lee. We are finally getting down to the brass tacks of the neo-conservative vision for resolving the thorny issue of Fundamentalist "Islamic Terrorism."
Why is George Bush so dedicated to the idea that perpetual war is the only solution to extreme Fundamentalist Islamic Terrorism?
Conservatives credit Bush with the altruistic motive of "spreading democracy" by force into lands that have traditionally been tyrannized, tyrannized by tyrants which the USA has traditionally supported. Into lands being ruled by tyranny in order to maintain 'stability' in the region for economic exploitation by the USA. By spreading democracy, it is said, 'primitive' Middle Eastern culture will be brought quickly into the present, and self-sustainable stability will result at some unidentifiable point in the future.
Liberals, on the other hand, accuse Bush of ruthlessly and opportunistically attempting to establish an economic world empire through American hegemony disguised as the liberation of Middle Eastern nations. Liberals point out Bush's backing by the commercial and corporate interests whose ventures and holdings are at risk because they conflict with the culture and religion of the Middle East.
To put all views into perspective, one only has to imagine another terrorist attack in America on the scale of September 11th, 2001. It might be a nuclear attack, a biological weapons attack, or even a suicide bomber detonating him or herself in a busy shopping mall.
Should such an attack happen, Americans will again unite in a non-partisanship of shared terror as we are once again forced to evaluate the real truth of our policies towards others. Another attack will make the views currently propagated by both sides suddenly extinct - moot, in fact, as, in reality, they are now.
The true strategy of the war on terror is simply stated: The Armed Forces of the United States are battling terror by attempting to liquidate, terminate, eliminate, waste, take out, whack, button - whatever terminology you prefer - Fundamentalist Muslims 'of color' who obey the words of the Prophet Mohammed recorded in the Holy Qur'an.
The correct word for it is 'genocide'.
An unbelievable assertion? Please allow me to expound a bit.
Following the events of September 11th, during the weeks and months that led to the decisions for pre-emptive war by the United States, great pains were taken to assure the American people that "Islam is a peaceful religion". Islamic religious leaders and mullahs were paraded before the cameras, invited to the White House, and praised by the President in an effort to head off any kind of general feeling of revenge against Muslims that might arise in the American hinterland.
The problem is that the opinions expressed by moderate Islamic religious leaders and mullahs, and many Islamic scholars, do not accurately reflect the message that Muslim Fundamentalists believe the Prophet Mohammed received from God and recorded in the Qur'an.
Internationally, Americans are perceived as an arrogant people, and I am no exception. I'm not one to point fingers at others because I didn't get around to reading the Qur'an until fairly recently. I've now read it through twice and I am surprised at what I found.
If the Old Testament is considered inspired, the Qur'an is certainly inspired. It describes itself as the Word of God for Arabic-speaking peoples, and would not exist without the Jewish Torah and Gospels of Jesus, of which it is a continuance - ie. further 'revelation' in Arabic.
Today it is crucial that all of us know what the Qur'an says, especially those in our 'secular' government who are responsible for implementing policy supposedly representing the will of "we, the people".
When people are desperate and oppressed they tend to turn to their religion more earnestly than they do when when they're happy and comfortable.
When people become victims of poverty or war, natural disasters or oppression, etc... they will turn to their religion for relief.
In the case of Muslims, the Qur'an defines a religion based on the worship of the same God shared by Christians and Jews. So when Muslims experience poverty or oppression, invasion and occupation, as Christians and Jews might turn to the Gospels or the Torah in the same situation, many Muslims turn to the Qur'an.
Why would Islamic leaders say unequivocally that Islam is peaceful when the Qur'an says it is not? Well, why do many Christian leaders say that war against Islam is justified when Jesus Christ said killing is never justified?
Those who propagate religion make it compatible with their own opinions and circumstances, treating original religious truths as non-expedient for their own modern existence, modifying many and even completely annulling some.
Islam, within the borders of its mandate, is peaceful. Muslims are commanded to treat with respect other belief systems under their regional control, during conditions of peace.
When a region under Islam is challenged, when it is invaded, occupied, or oppressed, Islam is not a peaceful religion. In fact, in those cases, Muslims are admonished, nay, obligated, by the Qur'an to fight in self-defense, using "every stratagem of war", until they are no longer oppressed and occupied.
Below, I am presenting verses from the Qur'an you may be familiar with. They are regularly used by people who try to present Islam as a dangerous religion, a religion out to conquer the world by whatever means necessary, violence included.
I am presenting these same verses, but I'm asking you to reasonably think through what they really mean to Muslims and the rest of the world today.
To begin with, please consider the ramifications of the following verses from the Qur'an for the American troops now stationed in Afghanistan and Iraq, and those who oppose them:
"Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors.
"And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith.
"But if they cease, Allah is Oftforgiving, Most Merciful. And fight them on until there is no more Tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah; but if they cease, Let there be no hostility except to those who practise oppression." [Surah 2.190-193]
These verses are presented "out of context". However, they are also substantiated throughout the Qur'an as Islam's legitimate and divine right to self-defense when the structure of Islamic law, especially the institution of care and support of the poor and needy, are threatened from the 'outside'.
These verses are divine instructions. Unlike the recruiting problems the USA faces today, these words guarantee there will never be a shortage of Muslim fighters as long the Qur'an exists.
Further, note that it is every Muslim's duty to harbor fighters for the faith:
"Those who believed, and adopted exile, and fought for the Faith, with their property and their persons, in the cause of Allah, as well as those who gave (them) asylum and aid, these are (all) friends and protectors, one of another. As to those who believed but came not into exile, ye owe no duty of protection to them until they come into exile; but if they seek your aid in religion, it is your duty to help them, except against a people with whom ye have a treaty of mutual alliance. And (remember) Allah seeth all that ye do.
"The Unbelievers are protectors, one of another: Unless ye do this, (protect each other), there would be tumult and oppression on earth, and great mischief.
"Those who believe, and adopt exile, and fight for the Faith, in the cause of Allah as well as those who give (them) asylum and aid, these are (all) in very truth the Believers: for them is the forgiveness of sins and a provision most generous." [Surah 8.72-8.74]
Who can be designated a fighter for the Islamic faith? Any Muslim wishing to fight:
"Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not. They ask thee concerning fighting in the Prohibited Month. Say: "Fighting therein is a grave (offence); but graver is it in the sight of Allah to prevent access to the path of Allah, to deny Him, to prevent access to the Sacred Mosque, and drive out its members."
"Tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter.
"Nor will they cease fighting you until they turn you back from your faith if they can. And if any of you Turn back from their faith and die in unbelief, their works will bear no fruit in this life and in the Hereafter; they will be companions of the Fire and will abide therein." [Surah 2.216-217]
Whether you are religious or not, please consider the information in these verses.
These words are, and always will be, in the Qur'an. Nothing will eliminate them except the elimination of the people whose faith is based on them... The genocide of the people whose faith is in these words.
The words cannot be changed. The Prophet Mohammed was the last Prophet of Islam. According to the Qur'an, only the coming of the Judgment Day will fulfill the words of God recorded in the Qur'an, or the return of Jesus Christ. Hearing these words of the Qur'an ought to put into context the words of our President, George W. Bush, when he said: "Bring 'em on!".
The Bush administration's decision to invade and occupy Muslim nations in perpetuity, while intentionally keeping knowledge of the Qur'anic doctrine of self-defense from the American people, is the USA's politically correct, long-term, 'final solution' for "Islamic terrorism."
American and British troops are being used as the flypaper to attract terrorist flies to the slaughter - but there's a 'slight' problem.
As outlined recently, the Bush administration is looking to fight the "terrorists" on their own turf, and fight them outside of the USA. The big flaw in this thinking is that, while Muslim extremists like Osama bin Laden and his group have defined the world itself as the battlefield in which Islam must be defended by any means, the great majority of mainstream Muslims have always interpreted the doctrine of self-defense as nationalistic or regional.
By invading across international borders, Bush has put his stamp of approval on the Al-Queda view that Islamic fighters were justified to strike across international borders in defense of Islam.
Thus the USA's pre-emptive invasions, meant to attract 'international terrorists' to fight it in Islamic nations instead of on American soil, are in fact legitimizing the extremist Fundamentalist doctrine of its supposed enemy.
The result is that the majority of mainstream Muslims who would formerly have resisted violently defending themselves across international borders, are now religiously beholden to fighting the United States according to the Qur'an. They are obligated to fight with the full backing of God as they know Him. They also the backing of the real international terrorist networks the USA initially set out to eradicate.
Intentionally or not, perpetual war - genocide by war - is an American strategy borne of religious ignorance.
Despite all the military might being brought to bear on Muslim nations, the real international terrorist networks are still capable of attacks on American soil.
War is war. Causing death and destruction to force your opponent to submit is the object of war.
The object of the War on Terror is the eradication of Muslim Fundamentalists who obey the Qur'an's admonitions to defend Islam. Ironically, the more Fundamentalist Muslims the USA eradicates, the more fundamentalists it also creates... The more people from the ranks of Moderate Muslims who will turn to the Qur'an instead of their compromising leaders in order to make sense of the evil happening to their brothers and sisters around them.
This is the foreseeable future that our administration is promoting today: perpetual war - perpetual terror.
What can we do? Whether liberals or conservatives are in power, Democrats or Republicans, using the overwhelming force of the U.S. Military against Muslim innocents in their own land is executing the same cyclic strategy of genocide.
The USA is like a giant locomotive switched onto the wrong track. In its decision for war following 9/11, it blasted through the warning barrier reading: "Danger! Track Ends, Mountain Ahead!". Continuing to expedite this war, the locomotive's engineers are stoking the fire furiously, building up steam... planning to tunnel through a mountain using the forward motion of a derailed locomotive.
The only way to end this war, is to withdraw all Western troops from all Muslim nations, alter U.S. policy to oppose tyranny in those countries, and peacefully support home-grown movements for democracy. The USA must begin dealing with Muslims as a people with a unique culture and religion, worthy of the respect and humanity which the USA says it has for all peoples. The Islam of the Qur'an is a righteous religion, supporting a unique form of culture and civilization. Let's make peace with its people.
Until that day, our policy in this war is a policy of genocide, not only against the Muslim freedom fighters fighting for the cause of God, but also against the brave Coalition troops we've sent to die in our place, who are also fighting for the cause of God.
If any cause is going to unite America, it will be the cause of no war at all from now on.
"Casey Butler is the author of the award-winning, anti-war geography game series World Empire. Today he spends most of his time working towards understanding religious scriptures. He can be reached at jogger@xmission.com ."
Copyright: Casey Butler
Posted by: BUSH LIES - SOLDIERS DIE at June 27, 2005 08:24 PM (FV4oJ)
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Yawn !
you enjoying your kool-aid ?
Posted by: Jonathan at June 27, 2005 09:43 PM (wdVtc)
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Will someone PLEASE rid us of this moron?
Posted by: Oyster at June 27, 2005 09:49 PM (YudAC)
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dear lord, please ban this idiot permanently. Apparently tonight he isn't intoxicated and misspelling everything, which is a small mercy.
He is ruining this blog, he even posted his demented shit in the thread to help the girl who needs an operation to live.
if Greg. who at least makes intelligent debate can get banned why can't this testicle leech?
How much "BUSSSH IS A MMCC CHIMMPY WHO BATHES IN YUOR KIDS BLOODDDDDD" do we have to endure, before he's gone?
Posted by: dave at June 27, 2005 09:55 PM (fsJ2z)
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Do I have any more blog children? A couple that I know of, but hey, Rusty gets around.........
Whenever someone says "who's your daddy", I usually yell "Rusty!!!!"...does that count?
Posted by: Feisty at June 27, 2005 10:00 PM (QBrm4)
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someone let the air out that old windbag, please???...he's giving me a freakin headache reading all that drivel he posts.....and i thought Charles Manson could babble on like an idiot....B.L.S.D. makes him look intelligent
Posted by: THANOS35 at June 27, 2005 11:21 PM (kDAye)
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What are you afraid of, goofbag Thanatophoric35? The truth?
Alcohol screws everything up and makes typing difficult, Dave.
BUSH is SIMIAN, a heartless boll weevil who sends people to die.
Posted by: BUSH LIES - SOLDIERS DIE at June 28, 2005 02:11 AM (FV4oJ)
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THE BUSH CULT
by Paul Levy
It is a shattering experience to see through our imaginary projections and recognize that someone we thought was leading and protecting us does not have our best interest at heart. People who support Mr. George Bush resist and turn away from the irrefutable and readily available evidence that Bush is anything but a good leader, as if they are in denial with a capital D. Bush is saying one thing and doing totally the opposite, and many people are simply in denial of this and look away. It is truly as if people who support Bush are not only in denial, but are actually refusing to look and hence, blind to what to most of the world is very obvious. It is as if people who support Bush are under a hypnotic spell, and are suffering from a form of collective brainwashing. People who support Bush in his pathology are exhibiting nothing other than the groupthink of cultic behavior.
Followers of a cult unquestioningly give their power away to their leader?s version of reality. People in a cult have dis-connected from their discerning wisdom, which is the ability to discriminate between the opposites, between truth and lies, between good and evil. In a cult, any sort of reflection of the leader?s unconscious shadow is not only not allowed, but is severely punished. The cult leader is typically insulated from people who disagree with him, not even wanting to come in contact and have any connection with people who have a different point of view. People in a cult exhibit complete and total denial with regard to any evidence that contradicts the agreed upon belief of the cult. This perfectly describes people who are following Bush as their leader. People who follow Bush are completely in denial about his truly criminal behavior.
People who belong to a cult always get hooked through their unconscious fear and blind spot. The cult members? relationship with each other is based on mutual unconsciousness, as they reciprocally reinforce each other?s denial and illusion. In a cult, there is always some form of mind-control, such as the Bush Administration?s control and manipulation of the media. ?Staying on message? is the typical communication style within a cult. The cult leader plays with people?s fears so as to gain their trust and control them, which is a process that is not based on love but on power over others.
There are always aspects of a cult that are kept hidden and secret, which is the mechanism that keeps its hierarchical power in place. In a cult, this inequality of power ensures that a form of abuse always gets unconsciously acted out. In a cult, the members identify with only one side of an inherently two-sided polarity, projecting out the marginalized shadow. Hence, people who disagree with the cult are seen to have fallen under the spell of the Devil. Members of a cult are convinced of the rightness of their point of view, which they consider non-negotiable. Hence, there is no room for the open dialogue and debate which is at the core of a true democracy. Cults will even suppress and distort science to serve their ends, just like the Bush Administration is doing for partisan political ends. And the cult leader is (arche)typically either identified with God or feels he has a special relationship with God. Cult leaders and their followers see themselves as agents of apocalyptic, end-time scenarios, which is one of the more disturbing aspects of Bush and his supporters from the religious right.
At their root, cults are based on a mass, collective unconsciousness which feeds and reinforces itself. The cult is of the nature of an infinitely-perpetuating negative feedback loop, fueled by its members? (?the elect?) unwillingness and resistance to self-reflect, look in the mirror and see what they are doing. Because it is so insular and unable to integrate any reflections from the outside, a cult always becomes self-destructive and ultimately destroys itself. This is why it is an extremely dangerous situation if Bush and his cultic followers take over our country, as it will create endless, unnecessary suffering for all of us. Bush might not just take down our country but our very planet as well. Another name for cults is collective psychosis.
It is profoundly important for us, as citizens of this country to recognize the nature of the collective madness that is expressing itself through Mr. Bush and Company. People who are following Bush have become entranced and have fallen asleep. What the great psychiatrist Jung would call a psychic epidemic pervades our country and world right now. If our country gives our power away to and elects a madman such as George Bush for another four years, we would in one sense be like the Germans during World War II, who, to quote Jung, ?follow a mediumistic Fuhrer [which means leader] over the housetops with a sleep-walkers assurance, only to land in the street with a broken back.?
Paul Levy is a spiritually-informed political activist. He can be reached at paul@awakeninthedream.com. Please visit his website at www.awakeninthedream.com, where his article ?The Madness of George Bush: A Reflection of Our Collective Psychosis? is available. Please feel free to pass this article along to a friend if you feel so inspired.
© 2004 Paul Levy
Posted by: BUSH LIES - SOLDIERS DIE at June 28, 2005 02:16 AM (FV4oJ)
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(I tried to warn you.. but you would not listen...)
CHRIST WOULD NOT SUPPORT BUSH
by Paul Levy
One of the most interesting aspects of George Bush being president is that he is a born-again Christian and recognized leader of the religious right. Like any fundamentalist group, the religious right are identified with only one side of the polarity (the light), and split off from their own shadow, projecting it outside of themselves. Interestingly, Jung refers to projecting the shadow as ?the lie.? People who project the darkness inevitably dream up someone into materialization who they experience as being the embodiment of the ?Devil,? whose inner meaning is both ?the adversary? and ?the liar.? People who disagree with the fundamentalist are seen as agents of the Devil, who need to be destroyed. By projecting the shadow, however, the fundamentalist becomes possessed by the very thing they are trying to destroy. Fighting the Devil is radically different than loving God.
Just like we can interpret our dreams symbolically, and we can interpret our life as a dream, we can contemplate any and all events in this universe as we would a dream being dreamed by a deeper, dreaming part of ourselves. Certain events in world history are uniquely illuminating to contemplate in this way, such as, for example, the Christ event. Seen symbolically, as if it were a dream, the Christ event is an unmediated expression of a deeper process going on inside the psyche of humankind that both literally, as well as symbolically, got dreamed up into materialization in, through and as this very universe of ours. In the life of Christ it is as if an archetypal, transcendental dynamic ?irrupted? into and out of this universe, incarnating itself in linear time so as to become visible and actualized. Through the Christ event, which is a higher-dimensional out-pouring of an atemporal process that exists outside of space/time itself, our true nature is being symbolically reflected and revealed, but only for those who have eyes to see.
The language of dreams is symbols; the secret of the Christ event is revealed by viewing it symbolically. Christ himself expresses this very point in the apocryphal (literally, secret book) Acts of John. Christ shows John a "cross of light," saying "this is not the cross of wood which you will see when you go down from here; neither am I he that is on the cross." The great psychiatrist C. G. Jung understood very well that Christ was a symbol of our wholeness which he called the archetype of the ?Self.? As Jung points out, there is "a visible split between the historical event down below on earth, as perceived by the senses, and its ideal, visionary reflection on high, the cross appearing on the one hand as a wooden instrument of torture and on the other as a glorious symbol."
"Christ," to quote Jung "is merely the projection [ie- a dreamed up phenomenon] of an entirely human mystery [in that he?s reflecting something back that?s deep inside of our soul]." Jung continues, "the real mystery does not behave mysteriously or secretively, it speaks a different language. It adumbrates itself by a variety of images which all indicate its true nature." The different language is dreamspeak, whose articulation is symbolic, not literal. Symbols are very different than signs (ex, "one way, do not enter"), whose meaning is literal, known and can be conveyed in words. A symbol is an expression or emanation of a deeper mystery, as it points to something beyond itself. When we decode and get in resonance with a symbol, it becomes a doorway into and actualizes this deeper state that it itself is a manifestation of. Symbols are psychic energy transformers which reflect and effect a change in consciousness itself.
Like any symbol, the Christ event expresses and constellates analogous psychic processes in the beholder. The Gospel of Phillip says "Some indeed see him and realize that they are seeing themselves." This is why Christ says in the apocryphal Acts of John, "A mirror am I to you that know me?.if you understand me, you shall be in your understanding as I am?.behold what you are, I have shown you?behold what is thine through me."
Christ is giving a mystic transmission of true "gnosis," of a knowing that is not separate from its object of knowledge. He is reflecting back how to view life symbolically and perceive experience as a reflective mirror, which provides and evokes a deeper sense of meaning. This is why, after this experience, John, "held fast this one thing," in himself, "that the Lord contrived all things symbolically and by a dispensation toward men, for their conversion and salvation."
To quote Jung, "For the believing Christian, Christ is everything, but certainly not a symbol, which is an expression for something unknown or net yet knowable. And yet he is a symbol by his very nature. Christ would never have made the impression he did on his followers if he had not expressed something that was alive and at work in their unconscious."
A symbol brings together, reconciles and unites contraries or opposites. Christ on the cross is a living, breathing symbol, a true ?coincidentia oppositorum? (a co-incidence, or conjunction of opposites). To quote Jung ?The life of Christ is just what it had to be if it is the life of a god and a man at the same time. It is a symbolum.? Seen as a symbol, Christ brings together and unites the heterogeneous natures of God and humankind in one being. Here in the figure of Christ on the cross we have God himself in all his infinitude, bounded and limited to the max, nailed to the third dimension of space and time. Here in the figure of Christ we have God himself feeling totally human and completely alienated from God, which is to say, from himself. This is perfectly expressed by Christ?s cry ?My God, why have thou forsaken me.? This moment of the utmost distance from God, paradoxically, was at the same time an experience of the greatest divinity.
Just like Christ is a symbol of the Self, the cross is a symbol for Christ. Jung continues "even for the knower of divine secrets the act of crucifixion is a mystery, a symbol that expresses a parallel psychic event in the beholder." The cross is symbolic of what Jung would call ?holding the tension of the opposites.? When we identify with only one side of a two-sided polarity, splitting-off from and projecting out the other side, we will develop a symptom, a ?dis-ease? in the core of our being, and will create nothing but suffering and destruction, and in the ultimate sense, death. To hold the tension of the opposites, however, is to be able to embrace and contain both the dark and light parts of our nature simultaneously without dissociating and projecting the shadow outside of ourselves. To hold this tension is truly a crucifixion for the ego, a genuine ?agonia,? but it activates a deeper process inside the core of our being, which is to say that it constellates life in the deepest sense. To be holding the tension of the opposites is to be genuinely ?imitating Christ,? as to be holding this creative tension without splitting-off from our darkness is to be living our lives as fully and authentically as Christ lived his. Out of this creative tension emerges what Jung calls a ?reconciling symbol.? This is a living symbol which both transcends and unites the opposites in a greater totality. We experience this as grace, as it is an expansion of consciousness and thereby something we could not think of by ourselves, but occurs to us with the force of a revelation, as if it comes from God. Christ himself is an example of such a symbol.
Instead of holding the tension of the opposites, George Bush, on the other hand, is an embodiment of someone who is completely dissociated from and has split-off and projected out his darker half. Like anyone who is fanatically identified with only one side of a polarity, George Bush has to dream up his darker side ?out there,? in this case on the world stage, to do battle with. To quote Jung ?The psychological rule says that when an inner situation is not made conscious, it happens outside, as fate. That is to say, when the individual remains undivided [not in touch with both the light AND the dark parts of themselves] and does not become conscious of his inner opposite, the world must perforce act out the conflict and be torn into opposing halves.?
Jung points out, ?It is perfectly possible, psychologically, for the unconscious or an archetype to take complete possession of a man and to determine his fate down to the smallest detail.? People who become so seized by an archetype could be said to be the embodiment of the archetype in human form. They become the instrument through which the archetype becomes both visible and actualized. Jung conjectures that Christ himself is an example of such a situation. To quote Jung ?Since the life of Christ is archetypal to a high degree, it represents to just that degree the life of the archetype.? Christ is symbolic of the archetype of the Self, which is the God within, or we could say our divine wholeness (?holiness?).
When the archetypal dimension is activated and accessed to such a degree, the environment will even synchronistically reflect back this state of identification with the archetype. When someone becomes possessed by an archetype, to quote Jung ?the archetype fulfils itself not only psychically in the individual, but objectively outside the individual.? This state of embodying the archetype is a situation where the inner process expresses itself synchronistically through the medium of the outside world, as the boundary between the inner and outer has dissolved.
Like Christ, George Bush has become possessed by the archetype of the Self. By being so unconsciously taken over by the more powerful archetype, Bush?s inner dissociation becomes visible as the boundary dissolves between his inner process and the outer world. Because of the position of power that he finds himself in, Bush?s inner conflict externalizes itself as he is able to play it out on the world stage.
Just like a photograph has a negative, Christ is the image of our divine wholeness (holiness), while Bush is the complete and polar opposite, or ?negative? of this image. In Bush?s case, unlike Christ, who was consciously channeling the positive aspects of the archetype of the Self, Bush is unconsciously possessed by the negative aspect of this archetype, which is to say that he is incarnating the archetype destructively, creating trauma and suffering for anyone in his sphere of influence, which in this case is the whole world. Becoming unconsciously ?seized? by an archetype like this always results in total self-destruction. Interestingly enough, the word ?seized? is related to the word ?rapture.?
To say Christ is a symbol is in no way to devalue him or take something away. On the contrary, to say the Christ event is symbolic is to say that it points to something greater than itself, that it is an actual portal into a deeper dimension of our being. If this universe is viewed in its dreamlike nature, it becomes clear that phenomenon such as the Christ event are configured in a way so as to reveal and activate something deep in our nature. To be truly ?born-again? is to recognize that this 3-D universe of ours is embedded in and an emanation of a higher-dimensional synchronistic matrix that is both literally, as well as symbolically, arranging events in this waking dreamscape of ours so as to reflect and effect certain archetypal processes that are happening deep inside the dreamer, which is us.
For the linear and literal-minded such as George Bush and the religious right, to see the Christ event symbolically is considered blasphemous and heretical. For example, a book written in 1835 implying that the Christ event could be viewed symbolically was reviewed as "the most pestilential book ever vomited out of the bowels of hell." Speaking of the apocryphal Acts of John, Pope Leo the Great condemned it as "a hotbed of manifest perversity," which "should not only be forbidden, but entirely destroyed and burned with fire."
Why is the mere suggestion to see the Christ event symbolically evoking such a violent reaction? What Christ is saying is both psycho-activating and liberating to contemplate, which is threatening to those who are attached to being in a position of power. To quote Jung ?The story of the Temptation clearly reveals the nature of the psychic power with which Jesus came into collision: it was the power-intoxicated devil.? What Christ is saying is particularly threatening to those in power, as Christ?s teachings are totally egalitarian. People like George Bush, who have become corrupted, attached and addicted to power, are particularly threatened by Christ?s teachings. Because he is addicted to power, Bush is trying to conquer and dominate the universe instead of being in relationship to it. As if talking about our current times, Jung comments ?The reigning prince of this world shuns the light of knowledge like the plague.?
What Christ is saying is threatening to those who interpret the Bible literally, such as Bush and the religious right. Interpreting the Bible literally is the very opposite of the way Christ himself wanted us to view his incarnation. Interpreting the Bible literally protects us from having to look in the mirror (whose inner meaning is ?shadow holder?) and deal with our own darkness. Interpreting the Bible literally ensures that we can project out and locate the evil ?out there,? thereby shielding ourselves from coming to terms with the evil in our own hearts. As Jung points out, when people such as Bush project the shadow ?this negligence [in dealing with their own darkness] is the best means of making him an instrument of evil.?
Seeing symbolically, whose inner meaning is that which unites, is the antonym and antidote to ?diabolos,? whose inner meaning is that which separates and divides. To see the Christ event symbolically would be to recognize, to quote Jung, that ?as we take the Christ projection [reflection] back into ourselves, each one of us is Christ." Jung continues, "the self, or Christ, is present in everybody a priori, but as a rule in an unconscious condition to begin with." Jung points out that everything unconscious, such as our divinity, once it was activated, always gets projected out and approaches us from outside, which is to say it gets dreamed up into actual incarnation. Jung goes on, that the self, or Christ, "is only real when it happens, and it can happen only when you withdraw your projections from an outward historical or metaphysical Christ, and thus wake up the Christ within?.an act of introjection is needed, i.e., the realization that the self (i.e, Christ) lives in you and not in an external figure separated and different from yourself."
The literal interpretation of the Christ event that Bush and the followers of the religious right believe in is a deluded and distorted interpretation of what Christ was actually teaching. Christ himself would be appalled at Bush?s perversion of his teachings. When we contemplate George Bush through the lens of Christ?s teachings themselves, it becomes clear that Bush, with all his pious vows of compassion, is actually ?missing the mark,? which is the inner meaning of the word ?sin.? Like Jung says ?Our blight is ideologies- they are the long-expected AntiChrist.?
Is George Bush the incarnation of evil? Or is he the highest level bodhisattva playing a very unpopular role, spurring on the greatest numbers to unfathomable heights of awakening? This is analogous to the dilemma that confronts quantum physics- is it a wave or a particle? Like quantum physics points out, it all depends on how we observe it. Like a symbol that contains and unites both of the opposites, George Bush is simultaneously both the instrument of the darkest evil co-joined with being the bringer of the light, which is the inner meaning of ?Lucifer.?
Ours is a situation of open-ended potentiality, with the question becoming, how do we want to dream it? The choice is truly ours. Do we go belly-up as we get drafted into endless wars, to quote Jung, allowing ourselves ?to be driven to the slaughterhouse by [our] leading psychopaths like hypnotized sheep?? Or do we access the highest level of our creativity and power as we connect with each other and unite (which revealingly, is the inner meaning of the word ?symbol?) in lucid awareness? Never before in all of human history has consciousness itself played such a crucial role in how our universe will manifest.
Like Christ, George Bush has been collaboratively dreamed up into incarnation by all six billion of us. Seen symbolically, the way Christ himself would instruct us to see it, George Bush is a living, breathing embodied reflection that unites the contradictory natures of God and the Devil in one being. This vision is a true ?coincidentia oppositorum,? which is the reconciling symbol that emerges out of holding the tension of the opposites. To quote Kazantzakis, author of the Last Temptation of Christ ?Someone came. Surely it was God, God??or was it the devil? Who can tell them apart? They exchange faces: God sometimes has become all darkness, the devil all light, and the mind of man is left in a muddle.?
Recognizing that this dreamlike universe of ours is a living, breathing symbol that is speaking symbolically allows it to resume its revelatory function. Speaking of Christ, Jung says ?the image of the God-man lives in everybody and has been incarnated (projected) in the man Jesus, to make itself visible, so that people could realize him as their own interior homo, their self.? Seen as a dreaming process, in an analogous way, we have all collaboratively dreamed up George Bush into actual incarnation so as to see and potentially integrate this dissociated, unconscious and asleep part of ourselves that he is a reflection of.
George Bush is a living, breathing symbol of this dark, ignorant, traumatized, afraid and pathological part of ourselves. When we recognize that George Bush is a mirrored reflection of a sick part of ourselves, compassion spontaneously arises, as we are embracing the darkest part of ourselves. George Bush challenges us to come to terms with the deepest evil inside of ourselves. To quote Mahatma Gandhi ?The only devils in the world are those running around in our own hearts- that is where the battle should be fought.?
Viewed as the symbol that it is, the Christ event is revealing that this state of co-joining, interpenetration, and union between God and humankind has already happened, has already been accomplished in the pleroma (the eternal fullness of the collective unconscious), and simply needs to be recognized to be made real in time. This is why Jung says, "Although (God) is already born in the pleroma, his birth in time can only be accomplished when it is perceived, recognized and declared by man."
In other words, the process of the incarnation of God through, in and as humanity is seemingly playing itself out in linear, sequential time in our world, yet in the atemporal, higher-dimensional reality in which our universe is contained, this process of divine incarnation through, in and as humanity has already been accomplished. We simply need to recognize what is symbolically being revealed. Like Christ himself says ?The Kingdom is spread all over earth and people just don?t see it.?
Paul Levy is a spiritually-informed political activist. He can be reached at paul@awakeninthedream.com. Please visit his website at www.awakeninthedream.com, where his article ?The Madness of George Bush: A Reflection of Our Collective Psychosis? is available. Please feel free to pass this article along to a friend if you feel so inspired.
© 2005 Paul Levy www.awakeninthedream.com
Posted by: BUSH LIES - SOLDIERS DIE at June 28, 2005 02:18 AM (FV4oJ)
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CHIMPY's EVIL UNLEASHED!
Shedding Light On Evil
by Paul Levy
Whether we see evil in the terrorists or in George W. Bush, I simply cannot imagine anyone would dispute that the face of evil has emerged in this world of ours. There is something about looking at evil, however, that is very different than when we passively witness something that we remain unaffected by. No one can see evil and stay untouched. To quote the great doctor of the soul, C. G. Jung, who to my mind has the deepest insight into the nature of evil of anyone I?ve encountered, ?The sight of evil kindles evil in the soul- there is no getting away from this fact?..the wickedness of others becomes our own wickedness because it kindles something evil in our own hearts.? In dealing with evil we have to recognize that it is not something we can see and remain separate from, as if we are safely in the audience, out of harm?s way. When we see evil, something inside of us gets ignited and set aflame.
At the sight of evil, to quote Jung, ?Indignation leaps up, angry cries of ?Justice!? pursue the murderer, and they are louder, more impassioned and more charged with hate the more fiercely burns the fire of evil that has been lit in our souls.? When we see evil, if we react with moral indignation, cocksure of our own innocence and righteousness, this itself is an expression that we ourselves have become infected by evil and have become a conduit for evil to act itself out through us. To quote Jung, ?True, we are innocent, we are the victims, robbed, betrayed, outraged; and yet for all that, or precisely because of it, the flame of evil glowers in our moral indignation.?
When we see evil it triggers a resonant darkness inside of us, as if we have secretly recognized a part of ourselves. It is important to recognize that we could not look at the face of evil and see it unless we had that very same evil in ourselves. We wouldn?t be able to recognize it otherwise.
It is then a question of whether we can integrate what has gotten triggered in us, or do we inwardly dissociate from our own darkness, imagining it to be separate from ourselves, and project the evil ?out there? onto some ?other.? Projecting the shadow like this, to quote Jung, ?strengthens the opponent?s position in the most effective way, because the projection carries the fear which we involuntarily and secretly feel for our own evil over to the other side and considerably increases the formidableness of his threat.? The nature of this world is such that if we project out our own darkness, the world will shape-shift and provide convincing evidence that the evil really does exist out there, which simply confirms to us our delusion in a never ending, self-generating feedback loop.
To the extent that any of us have withdrawn our projection of the shadow ?out there? we have begun, to quote Jung, ?the only struggle that is really worthwhile: the fight against the overwhelming power-drive of the shadow.? For as Jung points out, every person ?harbours within himself a dangerous shadow and adversary who is involved as an invisible helper in the dark machinations of the political monster. It is in the nature of political bodies always to see the evil in the opposite group, just as the individual has an ineradicable tendency to get rid of everything he does not know and does not want to know about himself by foisting it off on somebody else.? Both the individual as well as the body politic have a tendency to project the evil outside of themselves. An individual projecting the shadow outside of themselves actually feeds into, supports and helps to create the shadow projection of the greater body politic.
We are all complicit in what our country is doing in Iraq. We all share in the guilt. The bombs dropping on innocent civilians have our names on them. We are not separate but interconnected and interdependent beings, all part of the greater world community. To quote Jung, ?Since no man lives within his own psychic sphere like a snail in its shell, separated from everybody else, but is connected with his fellow-men by his unconscious humanity, no crime can ever be what it appears to our consciousness to be: an isolated psychic happening.? This collective guilt, what Jung calls ?guilt by contagion? belongs to everyone, there is no getting away from it. To again quote Jung, ?the murder has been suffered by everyone, and everyone has committed it??we have all made this collective psychic murder possible?.in this way we are unavoidably drawn into the uncleanness of evil; no matter what our conscious attitude may be. No one can escape this.?
The evil that is playing out on the world stage is something all six billion of us are mutually creating and ?dreaming up? together. This is to say the evil that is incarnating in our world is something we are not separate from but are all playing roles in and collaborating with. To quote Edmund Burke, ?Evil can only happen when good people do nothing.? By being a ?dreamed up phenomenon,? the evil that is appearing in our world is a full-bodied reflection, in living, breathing color of the evil inside of ourselves. It is as if an inner process happening deep within the collective unconscious of all of humanity has gotten externalized and projected outside of ourselves, which is to say that it has gotten ?dreamed up? into materialization. If the evil that is manifesting prompts enough of us, however, to recognize that it is a mirrored reflection of a part of ourselves and we self-reflect, we can collaboratively metabolize the evil in such a way that it catapults us into a collective expansion of consciousness.
Jung says it is only those among us who are self-reflective who have ?the realization of the immense and overwhelming power of evil, and of the fact that mankind is capable of becoming merely the instrument [italics mine].? The realization of our potential susceptibility to self-deception that could lead to unwitting acts of evil serves as a psychic immunization, so to speak, and creates true humility which itself is a safeguard against evil. This is why, to quote Jung, ?The true leaders of mankind are always those who are capable of self-reflection.? Jung points out that ?only relatively few individuals can be expected to be capable of such an achievement, and they are not the political but the moral leaders of mankind.? Compared to the moral leaders of humanity, Jung points out that the ?so called [political] leaders are the inevitable symptoms of a mass movement.? When there is a mass unconsciousness, such as there is in our country right now, the political leaders literally get ?dreamed up? to be the embodied outer reflection of this collective inner unconsciousness.
If we refuse to look at our own darkness and continue to try and destroy the evil we perceive to be outside of ourselves, we fall prey to it and unwittingly become an agent of evil. If we fight evil in our habitual way, which is to try and murder it, we ourselves become a murderer. (Interestingly, one of the inner meanings of the word ?Satan? is ?murderer?) By fighting evil we become possessed by it. Is this the meaning of Christ?s teaching ?resist not evil?? It is like in wrestling with the devil, the devil penetrates into our body, pulsates through our very cells and incarnates itself in, through and as us.
To deal with evil as it manifests in the world we have to be able to look at and embrace the evil inside of ourselves. To quote Gandhi, ?The only devils in the world are those running around in our own hearts- that is where the battle should be fought.? If we refuse to look at the evil inside of our own heart, however, our refusal itself just feeds the evil. If we look away and allow evil to get acted out, thinking that we are innocent, we are unconsciously colluding with evil. To quote Dr. Martin Luther King Jr, ?One who passively accepts evil [by allowing it to happen] is as much involved in it as the one who perpetuates it.?
The evil that is playing out in the world today is a deeper, archetypal energy that has been re-enacted many times throughout human history. Yet what is unique about our current situation, to quote Jung, ?is not that present-day man is capable of greater evil than the man of antiquity or the primitive. He merely has incomparably more effective means with which to realize his propensity to evil. As his consciousness has broadened and differentiated, so his moral nature has lagged behind. That is the great problem before us today: Reason alone no longer suffices.? It has become clear that our rationality alone cannot resolve our world crisis, something else is needed. It is like we are at an event horizon in the process of the expansion of consciousness itself. To quote Jung, ?we need the illumination of a holy and whole-making spirit- a spirit that can be anything rather than our reason.?
We are living in an extremely dangerous time, but it is also a time of great opportunity. To quote Jung, ?We are living in what the Greeks called the Kairos- the right moment- for a ?metamorphosis of the gods,? of the fundamental principles and symbols. This peculiarity of our time, which is certainly not of our conscious choosing, is the expression of the unconscious man within us who is changing. Coming generations will have to take account of this momentous transformation if humanity is not to destroy itself through the might of its own technology and science.? The unleashing of atomic energy, Jung continues, ??.has given the human race the power to annihilate itself completely. The situation is about the same as if a small boy of six had been given a bag of dynamite for a birthday present??the danger that threatens us now is of such dimensions as to make this last European catastrophe [World War II] seem like a curtain-raiser.?
To quote Jung, ?For, as long as Satan is not integrated, the world is not healed and man is not saved. But Satan represents evil, and how can evil be integrated? There is only one possibility: to assimilate it, that is to say, raise it to the level of consciousness??[this is a state] in which the devil no longer has an autonomous existence but rejoins the profound unity of the psyche. Then the opus magnum [the ?great work? of alchemy] is finished: the human soul is completely integrated.?
Evil can?t stand to be seen, though, for once it is seen and made conscious it loses its omnipotence and autonomy, as it can no longer act itself out through us. Our task, as Jung reminds us, is ?making the darkness conscious.? As each of us recognizes and integrates our own darker halves, we liberate the energy that was bound up in the compulsion to unconsciously act out and dream up our darker side in the outside world. Instead, this archetypal energy of the shadow gets assimilated into the wholeness of our personality and becomes available for the expression of creativity and love.
We need to understand the nature of the ?beast? we are dealing with when we are confronted with evil. The fact that the way we are dealing with evil is itself the very thing that propagates evil is showing us something. Evil is revealing something to us. This is why Jung refers to Satan as ?the godfather of man as a spiritual being,? by which he means that Satan can activate in humankind a process of spiritual awakening that would have been impossible without his intervention. Similarly, Jung points out that Lucifer was ?necessary and indeed indispensable for the unfolding and completion of the divine drama.? Interestingly, one of the inner meanings of the word ?Satan? is the ?shadow of the Lord.? As Jung points out, ?We like to imagine that God is all light, but St. John of the Cross has the truly psychological notion of the darkness and the seeming remoteness of God as an effect of the divine presence.? In other words, shadows are an expression that light is nearby.
Whether the evil that is wreaking havoc on our planet right now will destroy us or further the evolution of our species and awaken us to deeper levels of our being is totally up to us. The key is if enough of us become the aforementioned moral leaders of humanity and look in the mirror (whose inner meaning is ?shadow holder?), self-reflect and recognize our complicity with the darkness that is playing out in our world. Self-reflection is the very best service we can do for the divine and the highest way for us to love God. Self-reflection is a true retrieval of our soul- it has an integrating effect, as it is a gathering together and a re-collecting of what had previously been projected out, divided and separated by the dis-integrating effect of evil (the inner meaning of the word ?diabolos? is that which separates and divides). To quote Jung, ?Self-reflection or- what comes to the same thing- the urge to individuation gathers together what is scattered and multifarious, and exalts it to the original form of the One, the Primordial Man. In this way our existence as separate beings, our former ego nature, is abolished, the circle of consciousness is widened, and because the paradoxes have been made conscious the sources of conflict are dried up.?
Jung recognized that whenever evil appeared in an individual?s personal process, some deeper good always came out of the experience that wouldn?t have emerged without the manifestation of evil. Could the same thing be true on a collective scale? Could the evil that is coming out of hiding in the shadows and becoming visible for all who have eyes to see be the harbinger of a deeper process of collective realization that is becoming available to us because of its emergence? Jung openly wonders whether ?in this very power of evil God might not have placed some special purpose which it is most important for us to know.?
With the appearance of evil it is like we are invited and even prodded to participate in an evolutionary quantum leap in and of consciousness itself. A doorway has opened up for us to collectively snap out of our imagined identities as ?separate beings? and realize that we are all interconnected, on the same side and part of a greater whole.
The inner meaning of the word apocalypse is ?something hidden being revealed.? We are experiencing the revelation of the hidden God, the deus absconditus, the dark side of God. Will we not recognize what the ?shadow of the Lord? is revealing to us and continue to unconsciously act it out and destroy ourselves? Or will the evil propel enough of us over the edge to self-reflection, precipitating a mass spiritual awakening unimaginable until this moment in history? Evil is a true quantum phenomenon, in that it contains both of these possibilities in potential, and how it will manifest depends on how we interact with it. Fighting the devil is radically different than loving God. The choice is truly ours.
Posted by: BUSH LIES - SOLDIERS DIE at June 28, 2005 02:22 AM (FV4oJ)
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He is now grand master of the church of paul levy and jung.
please don't let him read l ron hubbard next ... please !!!
Posted by: Jonathan at June 28, 2005 03:05 AM (wdVtc)
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Dianetics - the power of CHIMP over Reality
Posted by: BUSH LIES - SOLDIERS DIE at June 28, 2005 03:42 AM (FV4oJ)
Posted by: Pixy Misa at June 28, 2005 05:55 AM (+S1Ft)
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BUSH LIES!! you are one disgusting young ferret, desert-dwelling loser who has no sense of common decency. How much drivel can you expect me to put up with? Either sober, drunk or on drugs - you are a disgrace to the blogging scene and a thug - go back to your cave and wait for your "CHIMPY" in your nightmares. GO AWAY!
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at June 28, 2005 06:02 AM (ScqM8)
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Jaysus on a Pony, and I thought having my comments spammed by "Texas Hold*m" bots was bad!
BL-SD is just trying to bring about a worldwide modern Caliphate and railing against the people who took down his hero Saddam is, at the moment, his only outlet.
Posted by: Darleen at June 28, 2005 08:36 AM (FgfaV)
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OMG! Is that blog (TIWWWB) for real?
Posted by: Oyster at June 28, 2005 08:47 AM (fl6E1)
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Leopold Stotch:'You guys are both retarded; the Constitution died 4/8/1913. [ratification of the 17th Amendment, which effectively eliminated the 10th Amendment]'
Leo,
I'd point to the 16th amendment, authorizing an income tax, as the day our Constitution died. It was never actually ratified. Two people have recently beaten tax evasion charges because the government couldn't prove that the 16th amendment was actually ratified.
'For years, those who have asked for the exact details of the laws underwhich the government takes half our lives have been rebuffed, dmismissed, insulted, harassed, and attacked, everything but answered. Only with the Holocaust does the mere asking of a question draw greater scorn and abuse by those in power. We The People have asked to see the actual bills of ratification of the necessary 3/4 states on the 16th amendment, which reversed the prior Constitutional ban on income taxes. The government refuses, insisting that we simply assume that Secretary of State Philander Knox would not lie about ratification in his letter to Congress (even though Knox scrupulously avoided using the word "ratified" and simply declared the amendment to be "in effect"). The government insists that we assume the laws are what we are told they are, even though (as has now happened in two trials) nobody can actually locate the law in question. ' M. Rivero
Posted by: greg at June 28, 2005 08:58 AM (/+dAV)
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No, it was the 19th Amendmnet.......
Pause.
Smirk.
Wink.
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at June 28, 2005 09:25 AM (JQjhA)
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Bush Lies: 'There's a night-time curfew in Baghdad?'
Yes, the city is under Martial Law. Oh, the joys of liberation!
Posted by: greg at June 28, 2005 09:26 AM (/+dAV)
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Deus absconditus, this chimpy guy sounds interesting.
I think we have to clarify whether a mortal wound equals the date of death, or if we're projecting a date that liberals will actually run in the streets with torches, raping, pillaging and plundering, condoned by the justices.
Posted by: tee bee at June 28, 2005 09:26 AM (q1JHF)
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at June 28, 2005 09:27 AM (JQjhA)
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Rusty, the 19th amendment. Women's sufferage?
Posted by: greg at June 28, 2005 09:52 AM (/+dAV)
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yea, B.L.S.D. i can tell you are most def. in need of some counseling for that alchol problem you got there...better lay off that moonshine, boy, youll go blind....freakin goofball....and you talk of truth, sheesh, yea, youre telling the truth but its about what crazy idiots extremists like you and a few others who come here and post long rambling, meaningless drivel filled posts....you related to Fidel Castro or maybe Hugo Chavez?? they both like to ramble on while saying nothing, just like YOU....get a life and try and not watch so many X-File episodes, youll be more fit, mentally that is....
Posted by: THANOS35 at June 28, 2005 09:54 AM (kDAye)
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oh, yea greg, during times of war Martial Law would and should be imposed in a country such as Iraq...there are still TERRORISTS running loose...no, i do not in any way consider those fighting against the American and coalition troops, insurgents or as fat ass Mikey Moore likes to call them, Minute Men...they are TERRORISTS, pure and simple....these curfews are more for the average Iraqi citizens safety and well being as it is for the American soldiers who are conducting the sweeps and patrols...would you be running around on the streets at 2am if you knew that gangs of violent people want to abduct, murder or perhaps sell you into slavery????...if you do, than you got problems and you better hope that an American patrol gets its hands on you first before the terrorists do as they have no respect for whatever religion you are.....im sure, if you have a good reason for being out that time of nite, the patrols have ways to get info, and no, i dont mean beating it out of you as i sense you would say that....i mean in getting in touv=ch with the authorties or a HQ...Curfews are the best way to weed out the criminal element from the innocent just doing an errand or a job...so in a way, yea, it is freedom for the average Iraqi citizen...freedom from the terrorists who really want to impose a brutal regime that will make the imposed curfew look like nothing more than a slight inconveniance...its just like when the State Troopers or local County or town police set up a DWI stop...yea, its a pain, but compared to being run over and killed by some drunk driving asshole, ill gladly put up with it, and in fact i support such actions...it gets those who break the laws off the roads and in jail where they cant ruin the day for some innocents...look at it the same way in Iraq
Posted by: THANOS35 at June 28, 2005 10:27 AM (kDAye)
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Thanos35;'im sure, if you have a good reason for being out that time of nite, the patrols have ways to get info, and no, i dont mean beating it out of you as i sense you would say that.'
Thanos,
If you're out past the curfew, they shoot you dead. HELLO! Anybody home?
Posted by: greg at June 28, 2005 10:42 AM (/+dAV)
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Rusty or Greg...do you have some links you'd recommend on the whole tax amendment thing you mentioned? Carlos...you heard of this?
Posted by: osamabeenhiding at June 28, 2005 10:55 AM (huFN9)
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do you know that for sure greg???....youre saying that the American troops shoot you on sight without giving you a warning first????....youre presuming alot right there and youre supposing that our troops are shooting without prevocation and are killing innocents...this is war and thay have to have ways to tell one another apart...passwords or some other sort of way...yea, im sure if you shoot at them they will fire back in self defense, but if youre strolling down the street they are going to have you identify youreself or risk being shot on.....see, by you saying that they will just shoot you offhand, you are making it easier for me to see as one who would go out and shout from the rooftop that the American troops are shooting at every Iraqi without reason...thank you for telling me the truth about you, greg...yea, you REALLY support the American troops, dont ya??....fool
Posted by: THANOS35 at June 28, 2005 10:55 AM (kDAye)
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Thanos,
Under Martial Law, if you're out past the curfew, you get shot. Do you not understand Martial Law?
Posted by: greg at June 28, 2005 11:13 AM (/+dAV)
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Osama,
It's quite true about the 16th amendment not being ratified. The IRS has repeatedly failed to respond to inquiries on the subject. They have also quietly withdrawn tax evasion charges against those who invoke a 'there was no ratification defense'.
I won't provide links because I don't want to piss Rusty off. But google, 16th amendment ratification.
Posted by: greg at June 28, 2005 11:39 AM (/+dAV)
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Aight. But tell me this...since I haven't researched it yet, how come this isn't HUGE news? I would imagine if everyone knew this everyone would be hoarding and the "gubbamint" would be freaking.
Posted by: osamabeenvotin' at June 28, 2005 12:31 PM (huFN9)
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and greg, youre still not getting what i said....youre are supposing that the US troops will shoot ANYONE, ANYONE at all without having them identify themselves first....just because they have imposed a curfew doesnt mean that they have imposed a Shoot on sight order...think a little.....youd love it to read about an American patrol shooting an Iraqi citizen trying to get over to their familys house and he wasnt given a warning first before he/she was shot, wouldnt ya??...so you could continue screaming youre Anti-American drivel....maybe the Chinese or Russians would shoot first without warning first, but American troops, being under attack by the MSM as being brutal, would attempt to identify the person/persons first before opening fire....youre as funny and as goofy as B.L.S.D. go sit in the corner now
Posted by: THANOS35 at June 28, 2005 12:44 PM (kDAye)
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Osama:'Aight. But tell me this...since I haven't researched it yet, how come this isn't HUGE news? '
Are you joking? Don't you understand how the country works? The MSM has become a branch of the US government.
Posted by: greg at June 28, 2005 12:52 PM (/+dAV)
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OMMFG!!!!....greg, you should have an HBO comedy special!!!..youre one funny mfer, lemme tell ya.....another George Carlin is born right here on The Jawa Report.....pardon me while i wipe Coca-Cola off my keyboards after reading that post from greg
Posted by: THANOS35 at June 28, 2005 01:10 PM (kDAye)
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Hi Greg,
I might not be a rocket scientist, but one would assume one way to not get shot in times that martial law is enacted, is to obey what it demands.
I don't believe that it's secret that the curfew is in place either, and from the footage they ran most curfew violators are given a nice set of flexi-cuffs and sent back for questioning.
Posted by: dave at June 28, 2005 01:25 PM (fsJ2z)
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thank you dave....greg was assuming that ANY and ALL violaters of the curfew would be shot on sight, which is something i think he would like to see happen, as it would give himself and the MSM more to scream and rant about.....
Posted by: THANOS35 at June 28, 2005 02:05 PM (kDAye)
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The wacko bush lies has completely lost control. Rusty?
Posted by: The main man's daughter at June 29, 2005 11:42 PM (CBNGy)
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