April 15, 2005
INDCent Bill admits to what we've always known,
he's into Lllama orgling!
So I tried to listen to Jeff Goldstein of Protein Wisdom and Bill Ardolino of INDC's radio show yesterday. They did this interview of another blogger who I'm sort of fond of, Ace of Ace of Spades Headquarters. The problem is that Right Talk Radio won't replay the interview!
Ace, Bill, and Jeff might think it was the frequent homoerotic jokes or maybe it was the occasional f-bomb dropped, but I have a different theory. Bill mentions the very forbidden kink of Llama orgling. Listen carefully. Near the beginning. It's there. Nuff said.
Anyway, thanks to the good folks over at The Daily Recycler you can now listen to the now banned stream here or here.
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Happy Birthday Dad (Buy a Gun)
Today is my father's birthday. Happy birthday dad!! You can help my dad celebrate by buying a gun. Today is Buy a Gun Day.
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You know that judge they always have as a guest on Fox? I can't say or spell his last name but he recommended that everyone should buy a gun; I was totally shocked. I guess if someone breaks into your house, you can now protect yourself and nothing will happen to you if you even kill the intruder. Unbelievable. I think it comes from all these people going into people's homes and abducting children. Still weird.
Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at April 16, 2005 12:17 PM (PEKrh)
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Oh and Happy Birthday to your Dad......... how old is he now? You're lucky to still have him around. I haven't had parents for a long time now. I miss them, especially my Dad who died a year ago, so much.
Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at April 16, 2005 12:19 PM (PEKrh)
April 14, 2005
Tales. Of. Interest.
Just like Instapundit, but all in one post!
Religion of Peace & Intl:
John at Crossroads of Arabia and I have been going back and forth via e-mail on whether or not Stephen Schwartz in The Two Faces of Islam is just mildly wrong or really really wrong. Where we really disagree is over the meaning of the word extremist. Check out his post which started it all.
-Tim at Opinin Bug sends me a link to this story. Did we send it to Syria too?? Dumbasses.
Ribbit. Ribbit. Ribbit. Indeed.
Domestic Stuff
Brain Terminal has an interesting post on academia. Heh.
Pope and Schiavo not real news. Confederate Yankee has more.
Germans blame neocons (read J-O-Os) for making Catholic priests look bad. I'm sure the fact that a few of them were pedophiles had nothing to do with it...
-Kill. Bush. Now. Oh, and buy some shit while you're at it.
-So, wait, an American gets indicted for the Oil for Food scandal and Kofi walks? Yeah, sounds about normal.
-Jack Lewis makes Glenn Reynolds his bitch. That makes two of us Jack.
-Jason Smith has more on the Fannie Mae scandal. You said fannie.
Bloggie Stuff
-I've said it once, I'll say it again: Damn you Quinton!!
-Paul at Wizbang is Dan's bitch. Yes I like the word bitch. You got a problem with that, bitch?
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Gotta love that tolerant Liberal "Kill Bush" t-shirt. So tolerant.
Posted by: Carlos at April 14, 2005 04:49 PM (8e/V4)
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Tolerance is abundance in Iraq.
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 14, 2005 06:20 PM (FV4oJ)
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Its not an accident that the Left in this country is mainstreaming violence.
Posted by: Robin Roberts at April 14, 2005 08:21 PM (xauGB)
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That's *bioch*, I believe.
Posted by: Brian Blazevic at April 14, 2005 11:59 PM (b2Y3g)
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And you wonder why they took you off Google?? :-)
The Pope being news on the blogosphere has been one topic not touched by anyone I know and I find that very very disappointing. I've had to rely on news and EWTN to get information and was glued to my set during the death watch. After being up all day and night, I fell asleep like ten minutes during which he did pass away. Shiavo was news everywhere and it was mostly ignorant of the situation; it's amazing how ignorant people are on such matters - they've never been in that situation and do not understand what was actually happening, but when it came to the pope here on the blogospere, news was nonexistant and that is a damn shame.
Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at April 15, 2005 07:37 AM (PEKrh)
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Cindy,
I listen to EWTN daily during the Terri Scheivo Murder. You could not find one host,Brother,Priest,or personality who favored the death of Terri.
Rather than ignorance, I found the station's content well informed and based on Catholic doctrine. People who opposed her State Sanctioned Murder are not ignorant.The fact that you say it over and over does not change that.
Posted by: Brad at April 15, 2005 07:56 AM (M7kiy)
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ignorant ignorant ignorant!
bible-thumper bible-thumper redneck!
inbred hick doodie poop ass!
- can i be in the cool liberal club now?
Posted by: Knemon at April 15, 2005 01:21 PM (QaHR7)
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You are close Knemon, close. You forgot the part about U S Soldiers killing innocent civilians and scooping their brains out with MRE spoons.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 16, 2005 10:03 AM (sB5vg)
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Dear Knemon,
The source for the spoon incident is here:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article8441.htm
This person has written to the journalist and demanded he publish those photos.
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 18, 2005 05:35 AM (FV4oJ)
April 13, 2005
Canadian Reader Love Mail: 'Kill All Infidel White People'
It's not so much irony as it is ironical when followers of the religion of peace a) blame Christianity for the rise of Hitler, then b) claim Jews are the root of all evil in the world then c) go on and on about racists, and then d) advocate killing all non-Muslim white people.
By the way, the man who only identifies himself as 'Islamic Jihad', is from Calgary, Alberta, Canada and subscribes to Shaw Cable. So if you're in Calgary, you might just want to watch your back. I'd be on the lookout for a young man, probably of Pakistani or Indian origin.
You mutha fuckers should have stayed out of Iraq now we have to see innocent people get killed.You Stupid white mutha fuckers ,yah specialy Bush.The root to this world problems are jews ,Christans and fucken idol
worshippers (Hindus,Sikhs and Buddaist). But the main problem in the
world is Christian nations there the ones who fucken influenced Hitler to
kill Jews even though the bastard was one himself,they also influenced
imperialism world wide for their greedy asse's.Many people were
slaughter when these so called fucken pilgrim Christians came to to North
America.Also these Goddamn bastard were too racist to bring jews to Canada
or The U.S so yah lets give them Israel so they can fight people from
another religon for land because selfish Chritian nations did'nt accept
jews and they thought maybe people in Palestine would.Not to metion all
the sufferin Muslim brothers go through beacause of fucken Jews,Bosanains,Serbians and other white mutha fuckers.Until white people convert to our religion or stop being racist I say kill them all.They have been Tyrants of this world for too long.They formed racist groups like the KKK,Skinhead and those pussy Nazi.Oh yah that bitch Hitler or any of those KKK son of a bitches never had the guts to step up to a Muslim nation beacause we would whop their asse's like we did a thousand years ago with those Christian Crusade bastards.
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Wouldn't that qualify as hate speech in Canada? I say forward it to the authorities up there, as there is a death threat in it.
Posted by: Defense Guy at April 13, 2005 08:32 AM (jPCiN)
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I wouldn't be surprised if the person is not a Muslim at all. Perhaps it is just a young person wanting to stir up trouble. Or could be a person that doesn't like you too much and just wanted to see what'd you do with the email.
Posted by: Marcus at April 13, 2005 08:36 AM (uQ1hg)
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Ah, the problems of the world solved because we're not all peace-loving Moslems. Yeah, how does one react to drivel like this? I say just ignore it and step over it just like you would the occasional pile of dog sh-t one encounters on a sidewalk.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 13, 2005 08:44 AM (x+5JB)
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Rusty,
There's enough crap coming out of the middle east from respected muslim leaders that we don't need to be paying attention to small fry like this guy.
Just go to MEMRI on any given day and read the stuff they translate from the Arabic. Post some of that, and then apologists like Marcus will be left without a leg to stand on.
Posted by: Carlos at April 13, 2005 09:10 AM (8e/V4)
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If it is nothing, then having someone look into it will lead nowhere. On the other hand, if it is something, then doing nothing...
Why take that chance?
Posted by: Defense Guy at April 13, 2005 09:41 AM (jPCiN)
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I do not get this fella. First he says the root of the world's problems are the jews. Then he goes on to sound as if he is sticking up for the jews. "selfish Chritian nations did'nt accept
jews"..."Goddamn bastard were too racist to bring jews to Canada
or The U.S"..."Christian nations there the ones who fucken influenced Hitler to kill Jews ". But wait isn't that what this person "'Islamic Jihad'" wants? He sounds extremely confused.
Posted by: mike at April 13, 2005 10:21 AM (Y6vT5)
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That's what the Quran says - what kind of religion kills all those that will not convert?
Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at April 13, 2005 10:34 AM (PEKrh)
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Sound more like a convert to Farrakhan's "Nation O' Islam" than anything else.
Posted by: Gordon at April 13, 2005 10:35 AM (SN0Ew)
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Hitler or any of those KKK son of a bitches never had the guts to step up to a Muslim nation
I believe Hitler's forces held North Africa until 1943, and it was the American and British forces that expelled them. Just sayin'.
Posted by: tee bee at April 13, 2005 10:41 AM (q1JHF)
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Cindy, 99% of the Muslims in the world do not intrepret the Quran the way extremists do. They do not take it word for word so please stop doing so.
Posted by: Jim at April 13, 2005 10:57 AM (jcSwY)
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Hell, France beat the snot out of a Muslim country back in the day (Napoleon invading Egypt). FRANCE... the punchline to every surrender joke in the Western world! And I don't remember the caliphate faring too well post-WWI either... but yeah, I see the point. Certainly Nazi Germany, a power that required America, Britian, and the USSR to ally in order to defeat it, wouldn't have stood a chance against a bunch of rock throwers and goat screwers.
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" But the main problem in the world is Christian nations there the ones who fucken influenced Hitler to kill Jews even though the bastard was one himself"
I've heard Adam Sandler's 'Hanukkah' song multiple times and I'm pretty sure Adolph Hitler was in fact not a jew. Also I must question whether or not this person if from the Middle East. If he was he would know that Hitler was in fact storming through Norhtern Africa where Muslims live. It took the British and Americans to stop the Nazis in Africa, not Muslims.
Posted by: Chad Evans at April 13, 2005 11:57 AM (VfW+X)
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Charming!
Posted by: sparky at April 13, 2005 12:56 PM (F1nba)
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Jim - you made the point. 99% of Muslim's don't take the Qu'ran literally. There's just one problem. That leaves 1 percent that do. One percent of 1.5 billion Muslims is still 15 million people who would like to kill all of us. That's 1/4 the population of France, and is approximately equal to the population of Florida circa 2000. It may be one percent, but it's still way too many.
Posted by: The Babaganoosh at April 13, 2005 01:37 PM (2Sfuq)
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2 words for this guy "First Crusade"
Posted by: Howie at April 13, 2005 02:36 PM (D3+20)
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or, "first three..."--although Christians won the first and had some victories in the third one.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 13, 2005 02:47 PM (QV5+c)
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I have tons of freinds from all religions
and races but for the hate mail I send yesterday,
it was because people were talking bad about my religion.Of course I'm gonna defend it.We need to get our shit together you should'nt be a racist and label all muslims as terrorist or any other race your at war with.Just beacause few bad seeds are in a group does'nt mean their all bad people.Igonarant white bastard were talkin bad about my people so i had to defend it and most of them were'nt even extremist the categorized them all as terrorist which realy pissed me off.So thats why I picked this name Islamic Jihad to get back at you racist people and give you some false fear.
Posted by: Islamic Jihad at April 13, 2005 05:59 PM (J4Yhg)
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Islamic,
are you gonna track us down and slit our throats like you did to that family in New Jersey? I'm in Texas, and we're armed down here.
Posted by: Carlos at April 13, 2005 06:11 PM (8e/V4)
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Ok buddy let me clear this up if I was a terrorist i would'nt be sittin here bullshitin
this stuff to you I would have done alot more
than typing it.So you people are getting worked
up for nothing I'm just student with a part time
job tryin to do better in this cold ass world.
But I will tell you something I do hate racist
people and I will knock the shit out of them if
they made a racist comment to me openly.But I won't kill them just kick their asse's.Even then
I'm more civilized than white people so I'll just pretend it never happend.
Posted by: Islamic Jihad at April 13, 2005 06:27 PM (J4Yhg)
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Who are you to assume we're white people, IJ?
Posted by: The Babaganoosh at April 13, 2005 06:32 PM (2Sfuq)
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Well Jihad
Now your making racist comments but because its against whites its
okay i guess!
Posted by: sparky at April 13, 2005 06:34 PM (F1nba)
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Where's Rooster when ya need him?
Posted by: sparky at April 13, 2005 07:27 PM (F1nba)
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"Cindy, 99% of the Muslims in the world do not intrepret the Quran the way extremists do. They do not take it word for word so please stop doing so."
Jim: I love u. Finally someone understands. But there is only one thing wrong about your comment Jim. The extremists MISINTERPRET the quran. If they interpreted it correctly they wouldn't be blowing themselves up and using Islam as an excuse to do so.
Posted by: Anwar at April 13, 2005 07:29 PM (lxByx)
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Lol Islamic Jihad, how old are u?
Posted by: Anwar at April 13, 2005 07:31 PM (lxByx)
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Babaganoosh: Its much more than 99%. Its more like 99.999999%.
Posted by: Anwar at April 13, 2005 07:33 PM (lxByx)
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K i wouldnt mind as much if this guys hate speech actually MADE SENSE, and had some INTELLIGENT FACTS. But like, u cant even call this hate speech. This is more like a dumbass teenager trying to get back at some racist white guy that called him Osama or something.
Posted by: Anwar at April 13, 2005 07:36 PM (lxByx)
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K i wouldnt mind as much if this guys hate speech actually MADE SENSE, and had some INTELLIGENT FACTS. But like, u cant even call this hate speech. This is more like a dumbass teenager trying to get back at some racist white guy that called him Osama or something. Islamic Jihad, ur making Islam look shitier than it already looks man. If ur gonna hate, hate with some common sense and knowledge. Sheesh.
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Sorry my computer stuffed up/
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Sorry my computer stuffed up.
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Ey Rooster where u at these days man. We miss your racism./Sarcasm.
Posted by: Anwar at April 13, 2005 08:05 PM (lxByx)
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Anwar,
while it's true that not all muslims are terrorists, the fact remains that all terrorists are muslims. So what do you want us to do? Pat down 13 year-old Swedish schoolgirls? We gotta be smart about it, but then you call us "racists."
Posted by: Carlos at April 13, 2005 08:41 PM (8e/V4)
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Anwar: I'm right here. Loading my nine. And practicing my hangmans knot. Let us see here. Left over right 11 times then under the last loop and pull with the right hand. Perfect. Now the next one.
Anwar is right about one thing Islam already looks shitty.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 13, 2005 09:53 PM (CBNGy)
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Anwar: Why did you run away from your own country? If you were unhappy with it why didn't you stay and fight to make it better? Are you a coward? An American would have worked to make his country better instead of running to another like a dog. How can you say bad things about my country when you were to much of a coward to fight for yours. Will you again run away if Canada is attacked? Where will you run to next, Jawa.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 13, 2005 09:59 PM (CBNGy)
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Islamic Jihad: When can we get together? Got a couple of young bucks here who wish to see if your as bad as you say. I say you're a cowardly piece of sand nig-er shit. Bring it on. You and 50 more like you couldn't whip any one in my neighborhood. Big mouthed piece of camel dung. Bring it on. Shit! we'll even travel. After I whip your apelike ass I'll throw you in with the pigs where you belong.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 13, 2005 10:08 PM (CBNGy)
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Anwar: What do you mean we. You muslim piece of dog shit. You are not a part of we. You are the outcast. Part of the muslim enemy. Osama's girlfriend.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 13, 2005 10:13 PM (CBNGy)
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Islamic Jihad: What you really wish is that you were white. Sorry, blame your stupid Allah. He teaches hate so you are not good enough to be white. Now back in your tree and shut up. Your superiors do not have time for you.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 13, 2005 10:17 PM (CBNGy)
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babaganoosh,
I meant to say 99.99999999% (thanks anwar). My point remains the same. You can't judge an entire religion and 1.3 billion people by the actions of extremists. Just like you can't judge all white people because of a racist asshole like greyrooster (you hearing this islamic jihad?).
Oh and Carlos, all terrorists are muslims?!? Are you kidding me? For some reason I used to remember a few Irish terrorists here and there back in the 70s. I think they MIGHT BE CATHOLIC. Oh and there was a terrorist who blew up a building in Oklahoma City a while back. I FORGET WHAT RACE/RELIGION HE WAS.
Terrorism is a political act. Any group that wants to attract political attention resorts to terrorism.
Islamic Jihad, you are no better than greyrooster. If you disagree with the racism on this blog speak out against it like I do. Don't send hate letters to the owner. People like you just prove their point.
Posted by: Jim at April 13, 2005 11:31 PM (jcSwY)
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Jim: roach747@yahoo.com
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 14, 2005 12:06 AM (FV4oJ)
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Never believe a faggot like faggot Jim. He is ungodly and a product of nature gone bad. His Michael Jackson desires are not to be attributed to the white race which he is not a member.
Islamic Jihad: You are better than Faggot Jim. You are both enemies of America. But at least you are not a traitor as he is.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 14, 2005 12:11 AM (CBNGy)
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Anything I say at this point would be repeating what I have said before.
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Anwar so what your tryin to say is that my speech
don't make any sense tell me how or you just another critic like theses racist son's of a bitches.I'm startin to question the fact if your realy a Muslim or not.I'm here defending our religion from prejudice people and you hear are critizing me man wtf.I do support Osama Bin Ladin so watch what u say about him or I'll fucken categorise you as non believer.I mean Osama Bin Ladin fought for what we beleive in he fought back with the West.I mean he was once an allie of the Americans and look what they did too him I'm not going into details because we know all about Amercians and their politics.So fuck you Anwar if you wanna kiss white ass go ahead but I'm still very strong on my belief as extremist to certain a point.
Posted by: Islamic Jihad at April 14, 2005 06:36 AM (J4Yhg)
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Anwar so what your tryin to say is that my speech
don't make any sense tell me how or you just another critic like theses racist son's of a bitches.I'm startin to question the fact if your realy a Muslim or not.I'm here defending our religion from prejudice people and you hear are critizing me man wtf.I do support Osama Bin Ladin so watch what u say about him or I'll fucken categorise you as non believer.I mean Osama Bin Ladin fought for what we beleive in he fought back with the West.I mean he was once an allie of the Americans and look what they did too him I'm not going into details because we know all about Amercians and their politics.So fuck you Anwar if you wanna kiss white ass go ahead but I'm still very strong on my belief as extremist to certain a point.
Posted by: Islamic Jihad at April 14, 2005 06:36 AM (J4Yhg)
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Anwar so what your tryin to say is that my speech
don't make any sense tell me how or you just another critic like theses racist son's of a bitches.I'm startin to question the fact if your realy a Muslim or not.I'm here defending our religion from prejudice people and you hear are critizing me man wtf.I do support Osama Bin Ladin so watch what u say about him or I'll fucken categorise you as non believer.I mean Osama Bin Ladin fought for what we beleive in he fought back with the West.I mean he was once an allie of the Americans and look what they did too him I'm not going into details because we know all about Amercians and their politics.So fuck you Anwar if you wanna kiss white ass go ahead but I'm still very strong on my belief as extremist to certain a point.
Posted by: Islamic Jihad at April 14, 2005 06:36 AM (J4Yhg)
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Anwar so what your tryin to say is that my speech
don't make any sense tell me how or you just another critic like theses racist son's of a bitches.I'm startin to question the fact if your realy a Muslim or not.I'm here defending our religion from prejudice people and you hear are critizing me man wtf.I do support Osama Bin Ladin so watch what u say about him or I'll fucken categorise you as non believer.I mean Osama Bin Ladin fought for what we beleive in he fought back with the West.I mean he was once an allie of the Americans and look what they did too him I'm not going into details because we know all about Amercians and their politics.So fuck you Anwar if you wanna kiss white ass go ahead but I'm still very strong on my belief as extremist to certain a point.
Posted by: Islamic Jihad at April 14, 2005 06:36 AM (J4Yhg)
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Anwar so what your tryin to say is that my speech
don't make any sense tell me how or you just another critic like theses racist son's of a bitches.I'm startin to question the fact if your realy a Muslim or not.I'm here defending our religion from prejudice people and you hear are critizing me man wtf.I do support Osama Bin Ladin so watch what u say about him or I'll fucken categorise you as non believer.I mean Osama Bin Ladin fought for what we beleive in he fought back with the West.I mean he was once an allie of the Americans and look what they did too him I'm not going into details because we know all about Amercians and their politics.So fuck you Anwar if you wanna kiss white ass go ahead but I'm still very strong on my belief as extremist to certain a point.
Posted by: Islamic Jihad at April 14, 2005 06:36 AM (J4Yhg)
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Anwar so what your tryin to say is that my speech
don't make any sense tell me how or you just another critic like theses racist son's of a bitches.I'm startin to question the fact if your realy a Muslim or not.I'm here defending our religion from prejudice people and you hear are critizing me man wtf.I do support Osama Bin Ladin so watch what u say about him or I'll fucken categorise you as non believer.I mean Osama Bin Ladin fought for what we beleive in he fought back with the West.I mean he was once an allie of the Americans and look what they did too him I'm not going into details because we know all about Amercians and their politics.So fuck you Anwar if you wanna kiss white ass go ahead but I'm still very strong on my belief as extremist to certain a point.
Posted by: Islamic Jihad at April 14, 2005 06:36 AM (J4Yhg)
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Anwar so what your tryin to say is that my speech
don't make any sense tell me how or you just another critic like theses racist son's of a bitches.I'm startin to question the fact if your realy a Muslim or not.I'm here defending our religion from prejudice people and you hear are critizing me man wtf.I do support Osama Bin Ladin so watch what u say about him or I'll fucken categorise you as non believer.I mean Osama Bin Ladin fought for what we beleive in he fought back with the West.I mean he was once an allie of the Americans and look what they did too him I'm not going into details because we know all about Amercians and their politics.So fuck you Anwar if you wanna kiss white ass go ahead but I'm still very strong on my belief as extremist to certain a point.
Posted by: Islamic Jihad at April 14, 2005 06:36 AM (J4Yhg)
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Anwar so what your tryin to say is that my speech
don't make any sense tell me how or you just another critic like theses racist son's of a bitches.I'm startin to question the fact if your realy a Muslim or not.I'm here defending our religion from prejudice people and you hear are critizing me man wtf.I do support Osama Bin Ladin so watch what u say about him or I'll fucken categorise you as non believer.I mean Osama Bin Ladin fought for what we beleive in he fought back with the West.I mean he was once an allie of the Americans and look what they did too him I'm not going into details because we know all about Amercians and their politics.So fuck you Anwar if you wanna kiss white ass go ahead but I'm still very strong on my belief as extremist to certain a point.
Posted by: Islamic Jihad at April 14, 2005 06:36 AM (J4Yhg)
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Anwar so what your tryin to say is that my speech
don't make any sense tell me how or you just another critic like theses racist son's of a bitches.I'm startin to question the fact if your realy a Muslim or not.I'm here defending our religion from prejudice people and you hear are critizing me man wtf.I do support Osama Bin Ladin so watch what u say about him or I'll fucken categorise you as non believer.I mean Osama Bin Ladin fought for what we beleive in he fought back with the West.I mean he was once an allie of the Americans and look what they did too him I'm not going into details because we know all about Amercians and their politics.So fuck you Anwar if you wanna kiss white ass go ahead but I'm still very strong on my belief as extremist to certain a point.
Posted by: Islamic Jihad at April 14, 2005 06:36 AM (J4Yhg)
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Anwar so what your tryin to say is that my speech
don't make any sense tell me how or you just another critic like theses racist son's of a bitches.I'm startin to question the fact if your realy a Muslim or not.I'm here defending our religion from prejudice people and you hear are critizing me man wtf.I do support Osama Bin Ladin so watch what u say about him or I'll fucken categorise you as non believer.I mean Osama Bin Ladin fought for what we beleive in he fought back with the West.I mean he was once an allie of the Americans and look what they did too him I'm not going into details because we know all about Amercians and their politics.So fuck you Anwar if you wanna kiss white ass go ahead but I'm still very strong on my belief as extremist to certain a point.
Posted by: Islamic Jihad at April 14, 2005 06:36 AM (J4Yhg)
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Anwar so what your tryin to say is that my speech
don't make any sense tell me how or you just another critic like theses racist son's of a bitches.I'm startin to question the fact if your realy a Muslim or not.I'm here defending our religion from prejudice people and you hear are critizing me man wtf.I do support Osama Bin Ladin so watch what u say about him or I'll fucken categorise you as non believer.I mean Osama Bin Ladin fought for what we beleive in he fought back with the West.I mean he was once an allie of the Americans and look what they did too him I'm not going into details because we know all about Amercians and their politics.So fuck you Anwar if you wanna kiss white ass go ahead but I'm still very strong on my belief as extremist to certain a point.
Posted by: Islamic Jihad at April 14, 2005 06:36 AM (J4Yhg)
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Greyrooster you pussy how the fuck you gonna talk
shit while my back is turned I'll fuckin whop u
bitch.Yah first of all you don't know a damn thing about my religion so shut the fuck up and learn about it before you talk smack you fuckin homo.Go back too suckin off white washed Anwar
because he ain't a brother he's another so fuck him too.Al Queda lives on you weak bastards Sept.11/01 was just the beginning theres more
to dish out to you non beleivers
Posted by: Islamic Jihad at April 14, 2005 06:50 AM (J4Yhg)
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Greyrooster you pussy how the fuck you gonna talk
shit while my back is turned I'll fuckin whop u
bitch.Yah first of all you don't know a damn thing about my religion so shut the fuck up and learn about it before you talk smack you fuckin homo.Go back too suckin off white washed Anwar
because he ain't a brother he's another so fuck him too.Al Queda lives on you weak bastards Sept.11/01 was just the beginning theres more
to dish out to you non beleivers
Posted by: Islamic Jihad at April 14, 2005 06:50 AM (J4Yhg)
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Greyrooster you pussy how the fuck you gonna talk
shit while my back is turned I'll fuckin whop u
bitch.Yah first of all you don't know a damn thing about my religion so shut the fuck up and learn about it before you talk smack you fuckin homo.Go back too suckin off white washed Anwar
because he ain't a brother he's another so fuck him too.Al Queda lives on you weak bastards Sept.11/01 was just the beginning theres more
to dish out to you non beleivers
Posted by: Islamic Jihad at April 14, 2005 06:51 AM (J4Yhg)
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Greyrooster I would'nt bother wastin my time kickin the shit out of a weak redneck like you.
Because all Americans are pussy's and their security sucks they had to learn the hard way 4 years ago.Boom remember those 2 towers collapsing
wow what a great day I thought it was a Die Hard movie from Bruce Willis but this time the bad guys one eh hahahahaha!!!So you can drown in your own pig slop u fucken faggot.
Posted by: Islamic Jihad at April 14, 2005 07:30 AM (J4Yhg)
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Where was I when the twin towers collapsed at
home watching the news.What did I see a bunch of
babies crying and mourning their dead the ones who were trapped in the collapsed towers.What was I doing when I saw this?? Pissing on the American flag and torching Israeli flags.Only if
I knew what those French were plotting like banning Hijabs in France I would make door mats of their flags fucken weak frogs.
Posted by: Islamic Jihad at April 14, 2005 08:12 AM (J4Yhg)
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Allah akbar, don't worry about what the infidels say. Stop repeating yourself over and over again or I'll sound the Horn of Hattin on Dome of the Rock dressed as the Dark Angel of Doom, so all demons rise from below the ground and attempt to destroy Islam and all who follow it.
Posted by: A Finn at April 14, 2005 08:23 AM (lGolT)
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Finn: Put your horn down--your parents might come in at any moment.
Islamic Jihad: Sounds like you're "misinterpreting" the Koran, too, wanting to kill us white infidels, "bad" Moslems like Anwar, piss on flags, mock loved ones crying after 9/11, supporting Osama. Why can't you just admit the fact that THIS IS WHAT YOUR KORAN TEACHES PEOPLE TO THINK AND DO? It teaches hate and murder, and you've just proven it, offendi.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 14, 2005 09:14 AM (x+5JB)
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Rusty: Can the duplicate posts be erased somehow?
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 14, 2005 09:15 AM (x+5JB)
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Yeah, but I'm just too lazy to do it. Anyway, Islamic Jihad has been banned.
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 14, 2005 09:19 AM (JQjhA)
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But why? He was helping prove my point!
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 14, 2005 09:49 AM (x+5JB)
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I for one never get tired of the baseless accusations of racism. What's more, I love seeing actual racist statements in a statement decrying said racism.
Sincerely,
An angry white, but not racist, bastard.
Posted by: Defense Guy at April 14, 2005 11:03 AM (jPCiN)
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Bye Bye IJ. I wonder if this guy would really fight a man face to face like he says. I have noticed that most of these guys like to slap around women. Maybe fire a few bullets from around a corner then run or strap a 20 year old with a starving mother to a bomb. Then they say you will finaly get some and your mother and siblings will not go hungry any more. I bet in a fair fight he would fold like a piece of paper. I don't think he had anything of value to say anyway.
Posted by: Howie at April 14, 2005 11:23 AM (D3+20)
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Islamis Jihad: Come back, we hardly knew ye.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 14, 2005 02:17 PM (x+5JB)
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Wow. Rooster I truly hate u know. I thought u had some good points before but know that u have unleashed ur true HATEFUL, RACIST, RELIGIONIST self I really dont want to talk to u anymore. Ur just like the terrorists, spreading hate wherever u go. Look at u, ur calling muslim people faggots. LOL. Only faggot is u. All u know how to do is hate and call others moonbats. If u were truly a civilized man u wouldnt have resorted to hate like IJ did. When I asked u what u were doing u said Iam loading my nine?? LOL. Now whos the terrorist??
Worthless shit.
"When can we get together? Got a couple of young bucks here who wish to see if your as bad as you say. I say you're a cowardly piece of sand nig-er shit. Bring it on. You and 50 more like you couldn't whip any one in my neighborhood. Big mouthed piece of camel dung. Bring it on. Shit! we'll even travel. After I whip your apelike ass I'll throw you in with the pigs where you belong."
Wat did u say?? Sand *****?? So u hate black people too. Aright so lets see. U hate muslims. U hate black people. U hate homosexuals. And u hate jews. But u dont hate white people cuz u think their superior. LOL. So u think the Aryan race is above all. Okay. I belive there was a very famous, very evil man with almost exaclty the same opinions. I think u can guess who that is.
P.S. Ur too old to be fighting rooster. A guy with 5 kids shouldnt be fighting anybody.
Posted by: Anwar at April 14, 2005 02:51 PM (7r1IC)
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One thing. Can someone tell me what white washed is??
Posted by: Anwar at April 14, 2005 02:55 PM (7r1IC)
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"Anwar: Why did you run away from your own country? If you were unhappy with it why didn't you stay and fight to make it better? Are you a coward? An American would have worked to make his country better instead of running to another like a dog. How can you say bad things about my country when you were to much of a coward to fight for yours. Will you again run away if Canada is attacked? Where will you run to next, Jawa."
One man cannot fix a WHOLE country. I tried. It didnt work. If Canada is attacked, no I wont run away. I will fight. I was born in this country and my dad spent 7 years here before I was born.
Iam a proud Canadian Citizen. And anyways Canada is a peaceful country. I doubt it will ever get attacked. And when did I say anything bad about America. Wtf?? Just keep ur loud mouth shut Rooster if u know whats good for u.
Posted by: Anwar at April 14, 2005 03:01 PM (7r1IC)
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Why the hell does IJ get banned but not Rooster??? Rooster is just as stupid, ignorant, and hateful. I say ban him too. And anyways he cusses too much.
Posted by: Anwar at April 14, 2005 03:08 PM (7r1IC)
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Rooster I just want u to know that from now on anytime ur shit comes up in any of the articles and I hear u talking shit about me imma just do the exact same thing as Collin. Im going to ask for that Falluja URL
.
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Posted by: Anwar at April 14, 2005 03:34 PM (7r1IC)
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Anwar: "White-washed."
I think that your angry young friend was implying that you are sympathizing with whites and he no longer regards you as a pure member of the Middle-Eastern darker race. Hence, you have been "white-washed" (painted with white paint, symbolically). Sounds a little wacky, huh?
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 14, 2005 03:47 PM (x+5JB)
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Last time I checked, my skin colour was white :S.
Posted by: Anwar at April 14, 2005 05:30 PM (6dNG9)
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Anwar: White, black, blue, who cares? Ideas make the man. You know that.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 14, 2005 05:40 PM (4VIbW)
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Anwar must be doing the Michael Jackson thing. Jawas ain't white. They look like and smell like camel dung. Where they came from.
Furthermore hes a muslim low life.
Bin Laden is a murderous prick. Muslims attacking innocent Jewish people are dogs.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 15, 2005 05:35 AM (7480p)
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What about jews attacking innocent muslim people?
Posted by: Jim at April 15, 2005 12:38 PM (jcSwY)
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Greyrooster,
Collin and I are still waiting for that Falluja URL..
Posted by: Anwar at April 15, 2005 02:19 PM (UlGF3)
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Greyrooster doesn't speak to traitors and filthy muslims.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 16, 2005 08:26 AM (sB5vg)
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http://www.bushflash.com/wmf/what.wmv
Enjoy...What's going on?
Posted by: The Have Mores at April 17, 2005 12:23 AM (uubyy)
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Thats right gayrooster, ignore the question like the pussy that you are. Again, what do you call jews who attack innocent muslims? Your response (or lack thereof) would/does speak wonders.
Posted by: Jim at April 17, 2005 06:56 AM (jcSwY)
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Dont worry about it Jim. Greyrooster is just some old guy looking for a hobby. According to what he told me in the Muslim NY article, he hasnt worked for 11 years. He picked hating muslims, jews, blacks, and homosexuals as his hobby.
Posted by: Anwar at April 17, 2005 02:10 PM (YY5vs)
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Anwar you are a lying filthy muslim. I do not hate Jews, Homos, or blacks. I just cannot stand some of them. Whoever says I hate Jews is a liar. I hate muslim dogs like you. I do not hate Islamic Jihad. He is in the open. Not like you. Perhaps he will be on the battlefield one day and we can kill him. You will never be on a battlefield. Jihad admits he is not white. You claim to be white. You are a dog. He is an open enemy. To be destroyed for sure. At least he doesn't hang around here and pretend to be what he is not.
Jihad:
I do have a picture of your hero Osama. Its out in the barn with the other animals. I piss on it daily along with a copy of the Kuran. One of the reasons I drink alot is so I can piss alot on the afore mentioned items.
Jihad: You sissified camel humper. You couldn't whip anyone. You're just a dog and can only do sneak attacks like your fellow Osama loving piss ants. I watch the news to. Now who is doing the crying and wailing while I piss on your Kuran.
Your religion is the most backward in the world. Only practised by backward ugly people barely out of the trees. When we have enough from you silly little animals we will destroy all of you.
The sooner the better. Keep up the good work maybe even the dunderheaded liberals can see what you are about. Then they will not cry so much when we take care of business. Now put the filthy rag you just wiped your ass with back on your head and climb back in your tree. Shit head.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 17, 2005 09:21 PM (sqa1t)
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This piss ant is why I am pissed at Canada's immigration policies. They don't weed the bastards out. They shouldn't be importing this trash to the new world.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 17, 2005 09:24 PM (sqa1t)
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Faggot Jim:
My response is: people who cover and make excused for the actions of the enemy are traitors. The only relationship I have with the Jews is that we are both fighting Islamofacists. This is the same relationship I have with the Hindus. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. You are a traitor. Besides being an asshole.
This is the last time I will talk to you. I refuse to talk to traitors anymore.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 17, 2005 09:32 PM (sqa1t)
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Rooster: Watch what your saying. If you piss on the Kuran then that means your against every muslim on the face of this planet and that is A LOT of people.
Posted by: Anwar at April 18, 2005 02:45 PM (4R894)
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Im agree with the issue im from Colombia and I think exactly the same but in personal ALLL NORTHAMERICAN AND THAT KIND OF PEOPLE MUST ALL BE KILLED SOON i WISH TO BE IN A WORLD WHERE THEY SUFFER FOR ALL ETERNITY WITH AND ANNOYING PAIN IN THEIR FUCKING BODIES OF SHIT....
I ONLY SUPORT THE ONES WHO DESERVE IT
THE ONES THAT ARE NOT U.S.A PEOPLE¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡
Posted by: human hater at April 26, 2005 07:51 PM (4Kxwv)
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Alls I can say is; Whenever all y'all wanna play "Cowboys & Muslims", y'all come ta Texas. It didn't work out so good for th Indians tho, so come ready. I just wish G.W. would stop pussy-footin around and just let us fight all the muslims, not just the terrorists. An all you messed-up Americans whose daddy didn't smack the fear a God into them, growing their beards an having their girls wear those garbage bag burbas or whatever,wanna-be muslims. Your asses are mine.If y'all don't run away from a religion that promotes barbaric acts then you must support those actions. That makes you the enemy. America needs a real war, like what we done to them Japs.
Git-r-done!!!
Posted by: goodol'boy at May 15, 2005 09:09 AM (HoSBk)
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The only way to stop this discrimination towards minorities through employment and the police is to have terrorist attacks on the white republicans. I call it freedom fighting because that is trully what it is. White scumbags want to throw us in jail for crimes that we did not commit. Most of the time White BASTARDS wont hire us if we have a white person going to get the same job. It seems the entertainment world is our best way of getting a job -sports-rap albums. Some minorites have became very successful but most minorities are shit out of luck. In New York over 50% of blacks are out of work. I do research for Portland and 50% of blacks are out of work. If it is this BAD in Portland and New York, just imagine how terrible it is for minorities, especially for us blacks, in red conservative AMERIKKKA. I just hope for the deaths of REPUBLICANS. I also wish for the death of minorities whom are republicans. The white bastard uses minorities, whom are republicans, to deny us minorities rights to live. Celebrated the death of republicans
Posted by: shahan at May 23, 2005 03:06 AM (rMmZh)
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CELEBRATE the death of white republicans
Posted by: shahan at May 25, 2005 06:13 PM (rMmZh)
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WHEN THE WHITE MONSTER REPUBLICANS GETS KILLED, CELEBRATE THE SUFFERING OF THE FAMILY.
Posted by: shahan at May 25, 2005 06:15 PM (rMmZh)
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Well, if muslims are so peace loving in the first place why all the talk of killing? Peace loving is not flying a plane into a building and killing thousands of innocent people. Peace loving is talking things out in a raional matter and trying to come to the best possible conclusion for both sides. Also these suicide bombers etc. *like what just happened in london* and all the people fighting the "holy war".... It is pretty sad, you all think your fighting a holy war in the first place. We are not trying to impose christianity on you, look at all the different churches EVERY american community has, there is 2 muslim temples in my city alone. The funniest thing of all. Have you seen Osama fighting for what he thinks is right.. Hell no, he brainwashed you pakis because your week minded. If it is so noble and such an honorable and wonderful thing to be killed fighting the holy war, why isnt he out fighting instead of sitting in his cave like Saddam. It dosnt really matter, your little country is small potatoes, we could wipe you out in one fell swoop if we wanted too. We are trying to be as peaceful as possible. I dont care what happens to the middle east now, after reading this guys message I have no compassion left. I used to think that Americans did try to police the world to much. But after reading what he wrote, it isnt policing, it is getting intel so you barefoot, towel heads dont kill yourselves and take out a few "christians" in the process. I dont have a problem with the pakis/muslims killing themselves. Matter of fact I wish all of them would do us that favor.
Another thing, when you commit terroist attacks your not just killing christians or jews or any other religion. your killing people who may have yet to form any religous affiliation at all, and even worse your killing children. You are all pathetic. Fight like men you camel loving pussies!
Posted by: Love America at July 14, 2005 08:49 AM (VmtE9)
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WHAT THE HELL IS TAKING SO LONG FOR A MASS MURDERING ATTACK ON THE AMERIKKKLAN REPUBLIKKKLANS!!! IT IS PISSING ME OFF THAT AN ATTACK HAS NOT HAPPENED YET!!!
FUCK, HOW MUCH LONGER UNTIL AN ATTACK!!! FUCK!!!
CELEBRATE, CELEBRATE, CELEBRATE THE DEATH OF REPUBLIKKKLANS, (NOT SOLDIERS). THEN PISS ON THEIR GRAVES, THEN SHIT ON THEIR GRAVES, THEN ON THE REST OF THERE FAMILIES REPUBLIKKKLANÂ’S GRAVE. HOORAY!!! HOORAY!!! HOORAY!!!
I WISH ALL OF REPUBLIKKKLAN AMERIKKKA WOULD GET NUKED MULTIPLE TIMES!!!! IT WOULD BE GREAT IF ONE DAY ALL REPUBLIKKKLANS WOULD BE PUT IN AN AREA, AND THAT AREA WOULD GET NUKED, NUKED, NUKED, AND NUKED. OH, I FORGOT, THAT AREA IS THE SOUTH (ALABAMA, MISSISSIPPI, ETCÂ…), MID AMERIKKKA, AND ALL OF THE REPUBLIKKKLAN COUNTIES IN AMERIKKKA. WHEN YOU SEE OR HEAR ABOUT DEAD REPUBLIKKKLANS, PLEASE CELEBRATE THE SUFFERING OF THE CRYING FAMILY. WHEN I SEE THE SUFFERING OF THE CRYING FAMILY OF ONLY REPUBLIKKKLANS, IT FEELS BETTER THAN AN ORGASM!!!
“OH YEAH!!!” I MEAN “OH YEEEAAAAAHHHHH!!!” THAT FELT GOOD!!!
HOPEFULLY, WHEN AMERIKKKA GETS ATTACKED BY FREEDOM FIGHTERS: NEVER, I MEAN NEVER CELEBRATE THE DEATH OF LIBERALS, OR PEOPLE ON OUR SIDE. MANY OF THEM ARE MINGLED IN WHERE REPULIKKKLANS LIVE!!! SO LETS HOPE ALL LIBERALS SURVIVE WHILE ALL REPUBLIKKKANS DIE!!!
ALL LIBERALS SHOULD TOUGHEN UP AND STAND UP TO THE SCUMBAGS. INSTEAD OF SAYING “LOVE OUR ENEMIES”--I SAY “FUCK OUR ENEMIES, WE WILL DEFEAT YOU REDNECKS, AND WE WILL FINALLY BECOME FREE!!!”
LETS START A LEGAL (100% LEGAL) ORGANIZATION. IN OUR ORGANIZATION WE WILL DO MARCHES, LET EVERYONE KNOW WHO THE RACIST HIRING MANAGERS ARE IN SOCIETY, THEN WE WILL HAVE MARCHES THERE AND BOYCOTT THAT COMPANY, UNTIL THAT COMPANY FIRES ALL THE RACISTS IT HIRED. IF SOMEONE IS A BIGOT, THEN SOCIETY HAS TO KNOW WHO THE SCUM IS.
DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT MICHAEL MOORE DID TO LARS LARSON? I THOUGHT IT WAS GREAT. HE SURE EXPOSES THE REPUBLIKKKLANS AND TEACHES THEM A LESSON!!! I LOVED EVERY SECOND OF LARS LARSONÂ’S SUFFERING!!!
CONTACT ME AT: FUCKUSA@COMCAST.NET
LOVE: FREEDOM FIGHTER
Posted by: freedomfighter at July 28, 2005 11:19 AM (9hLMd)
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WHEN I TYPE IN ALL CAPS AND SAY STUPID-ASS THINGS I THINK I'M BIG AND TOUGH. DO YOU ALL REMEMBER WHEN MICHAEL MOORE ATE YOUR LUNCH? I do and I was pissed.
Posted by: Dirty Kafir at July 29, 2005 02:53 AM (8WaYp)
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If you hate america, then let me know what you think. Email me at fuckusa@comcast.net. I am a very hansom guy. I am HOT!!! Any goodlooking women wanna go on a blind date. My name is SHAHAN and I live in Portland, Oregon. I hate this fucking country.
Posted by: shahan at July 30, 2005 01:25 PM (9hLMd)
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WHAT THE HELL IS TAKING SO LONG FOR A MASS MURDERING ATTACK ON THE AMERIKKKLAN REPUBLIKKKLANS!!! IT IS PISSING ME OFF THAT AN ATTACK HAS NOT HAPPENED YET!!!
FUCK, HOW MUCH LONGER UNTIL AN ATTACK!!! FUCK!!!
CELEBRATE, CELEBRATE, CELEBRATE THE DEATH OF REPUBLIKKKLANS, (NOT SOLDIERS). THEN PISS ON THEIR GRAVES, THEN SHIT ON THEIR GRAVES, THEN PISS AND SHIT ON THE REST OF THEIR FAMILIES GRAVE. HOORAY!!! HOORAY!!! HOORAY!!!
I WISH ALL OF REPUBLIKKKLAN AMERIKKKA WOULD GET NUKED MULTIPLE TIMES!!!! IT WOULD BE GREAT IF ONE DAY ALL REPUBLIKKKLANS WOULD BE PUT IN AN AREA, AND THAT AREA WOULD GET NUKED, NUKED, NUKED, AND NUKED. OH, I FORGOT, THAT AREA IS THE SOUTH (ALABAMA, MISSISSIPPI, ETCÂ…), MID AMERIKKKA, AND ALL OF THE REPUBLIKKKLAN COUNTIES IN AMERIKKKA. WHEN YOU SEE OR HEAR ABOUT DEAD REPUBLIKKKLANS, PLEASE CELEBRATE THE SUFFERING OF THE CRYING FAMILY. WHEN I SEE THE SUFFERING OF THE CRYING FAMILY OF ONLY REPUBLIKKKLANS, IT FEELS BETTER THAN AN ORGASM!!!
“OH YEAH!!!” I MEAN “OH YEEEAAAAAHHHHH!!!” THAT FELT GOOD!!!
HOPEFULLY, WHEN AMERIKKKA GETS ATTACKED BY FREEDOM FIGHTERS: NEVER, I MEAN NEVER CELEBRATE THE DEATH OF LIBERALS, OR PEOPLE ON OUR SIDE. MANY OF THEM ARE MINGLED IN WHERE REPULIKKKLANS LIVE!!! SO LETS HOPE ALL LIBERALS SURVIVE WHILE ALL REPUBLIKKKANS DIE!!!
ALL LIBERALS SHOULD TOUGHEN UP AND STAND UP TO THE SCUMBAGS. INSTEAD OF SAYING “LOVE OUR ENEMIES”--I SAY “FUCK OUR ENEMIES, WE WILL DEFEAT YOU REDNECKS, AND WE WILL FINALLY BECOME FREE!!!”
LETS START A LEGAL (100% LEGAL) ORGANIZATION. IN OUR ORGANIZATION WE WILL DO MARCHES, LET EVERYONE KNOW WHO THE RACIST HIRING MANAGERS ARE IN SOCIETY, THEN WE WILL HAVE MARCHES THERE AND BOYCOTT THAT COMPANY, UNTIL THAT COMPANY FIRES ALL THE RACISTS IT HIRED. IF SOMEONE IS A BIGOT, THEN SOCIETY HAS TO KNOW WHO THE SCUM IS.
DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT MICHAEL MOORE DID TO LARS LARSON IN PORTLAND, OREGON? HE PUT LARS LARSONS HOME ADDRESS ON THE THE INTERNET AND A LOT OF PEOPLE THRASHED HIS HOUSE. LARS LARSON IS A SCUM REPUBLIKKKLAN RIGHT WING TALK RADIO HOST.
I THOUGHT IT WAS GREAT. HE SURE EXPOSES THE REPUBLIKKKLANS AND TEACHES THEM A LESSON!!! I LOVED EVERY SECOND OF LARS LARSONÂ’S SUFFERING!!!
CONTACT ME AT: FUCKUSA@COMCAST.NET
LOVE: FREEDOM FIGHTER-AKA:SHAHAN (503)367-9155
Posted by: SHAHAN (503)367-9155 at July 30, 2005 11:13 PM (9hLMd)
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It sounds like Islamic Jihad wants to go back to prison so he can mate up to be Bubbas' bitch once again. Tell ya what Islamic Jihad, we will all pitch in and send you a case of bar soap for Christmas so you and Bubba can play fun games in the shower. I hope someone reported this criminal jerk to the proper authorities.
Posted by: AmericanMama at August 06, 2005 05:58 PM (vlFBq)
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What the hell is taking so long for a mass murdering attack on the WHITE REDNECK REPUBLIKKKLANS??? It is pissing me off that an attack has not happened yet!!!
FUCK, HOW MUCH LONGER UNTIL AN ATTACK!!! FUCK!!!
Celebrate, Celebrate, Celebrate the DEATH OF REPUBLIKKKLANS, (not soldiers). Then PISS on their graves, then SHIT on their graves, then PISS and SHIT on the rest of their families grave. Hooray!!! Hooray!!! Hooray!!!
I wish all of WHITE REPUBLIKKKLAN AMERIKKKA would get NUKED, NUKED, and NUKED!!!! When you see or hear that RACIST REPUBLIKKKLANS DIED, celebrate the suffering of the crying family. It feels better than an orgasm when I see the crying family of ONLY REPUBLIKKKLANS!!!
“Oh yeah!!!” I mean “OH YEEEAAAAAHHHHH!!!” That felt good!!!
Hopefully, when AMERIKKKA gets attacked by freedom fighters: Never, I mean never celebrate the death of liberals, or people on our side. Many of them are mingled in where WHITE REPUBLIKKKLANS live. So lets hope all liberals survive WHILE ALL REPUBLIKKKLANS DIE!!!
All liberals should toughen up and stand up to the scumbags. instead of saying “love our enemies”--I say “Fuck our enemies, we will defeat you rednecks, and the oppressed will finally become free!!!”
Do you remember what Michael Moore did to the right wing terrorist talk show host Lars Larson? I thought it was great. Michael Moore exposes the racist REPUBLIKKKLANS and teaches them a lesson!!! I loved every second of Lars LarsonÂ’s suffering!!! I hope he suffers much more!!! Lars is a very insensitive, scum racist!!!
FUCK LARS LARSON, FUCK LARS LARSON, FUCK LARS LARSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Contact me at: shootrepublicans@yahoo.com
Love: Freedom Fighter
Posted by: Shahan at September 07, 2005 01:09 AM (EjUFd)
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for the people out ther that hate other people for doing things and go kill them for doing things you hate well other people hate you for killing people so you see the hate never stops with a push of a red button dummm ass
Posted by: mitch at September 18, 2005 10:24 PM (uIiQ/)
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WHAT THE HELL IS TAKING SO LONG FOR A MASS MURDERING ATTACK ON THE WHITE REDNECK AMERIKKKLAN REPUBLIKKKLANS??? IT IS PISSING ME OFF THAT AN ATTACK HAS NOT HAPPENED YET!!!
FUCK, HOW MUCH LONGER UNTIL AN ATTACK!!! FUCK!!!
CELEBRATE, CELEBRATE, CELEBRATE THE DEATH OF REPUBLIKKKLANS, (NOT SOLDIERS). THEN PISS ON THEIR GRAVES, THEN SHIT ON THEIR GRAVES, THEN PISS AND SHIT ON THE REST OF THEIR FAMILIES GRAVE. HOORAY!!! HOORAY!!! HOORAY!!!
I WISH ALL OF WHITE REPUBLIKKKLAN AMERIKKKA WOULD GET NUKED MULTIPLE TIMES!!!! IT WOULD BE GREAT IF ONE DAY REPUBLIKKKLANS WOULD BE PUT IN AN AREA, AND THAT AREA WOULD GET NUKED, NUKED, NUKED, AND NUKED. WHEN YOU SEE OR HEAR THAT RACIST REPUBLIKKKLANS DIED, CELEBRATE THE SUFFERING OF THE CRYING FAMILY. IT FEELS BETTER THAN AN ORGASM WHEN I SEE THE CRYING FAMILY OF ONLY REPUBLIKKKLANS!!!
“OH YEAH!!!” I MEAN “OH YEEEAAAAAHHHHH!!!” THAT FELT GOOD!!!
HOPEFULLY, WHEN AMERIKKKA GETS ATTACKED BY FREEDOM FIGHTERS: NEVER, I MEAN NEVER CELEBRATE THE DEATH OF LIBERALS, OR PEOPLE ON OUR SIDE. MANY OF THEM ARE MINGLED IN WHERE WHITE REPULIKKKLANS LIVE!!! SO LETS HOPE ALL LIBERALS SURVIVE WHILE ALL REPUBLIKKKLANS DIE!!!
ALL LIBERALS SHOULD TOUGHEN UP AND STAND UP TO THE SCUMBAGS. INSTEAD OF SAYING “LOVE OUR ENEMIES”--I SAY “FUCK OUR ENEMIES, WE WILL DEFEAT YOU REDNECKS, AND THE OPPRESSED WILL FINALLY BECOME FREE!!!”
DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT MICHAEL MOORE DID TO THE RIGHT WING TERRORIST TALK SHOW HOST LARS LARSON? I THOUGHT IT WAS GREAT. MICHAEL MOORE EXPOSES THE RACIST REPUBLIKKKLANS AND TEACHES THEM A LESSON!!! I LOVED EVERY SECOND OF LARS LARSONÂ’S SUFFERING!!! I HOPE HE SUFFERS MUCH MORE!!! LARS IS A VERY INCENSITIVE, SCUM RACIST!!!
FUCK LARS LARSON, FUCK LARS LARSON, FUCK LARS LARSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CONTACT ME AT: shootrepublicans@yahoo.com
LOVE: FREEDOM FIGHTER
Posted by: Shahan at September 21, 2005 03:45 PM (EjUFd)
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WHAT THE HELL IS TAKING SO LONG FOR A MASS MURDERING ATTACK ON THE WHITE REDNECK AMERIKKKLAN REPUBLIKKKLANS??? IT IS PISSING ME OFF THAT AN ATTACK HAS NOT HAPPENED YET!!!
FUCK, HOW MUCH LONGER UNTIL AN ATTACK!!! FUCK!!!
CELEBRATE, CELEBRATE, CELEBRATE THE DEATH OF REPUBLIKKKLANS, (NOT SOLDIERS). THEN PISS ON THEIR GRAVES, THEN SHIT ON THEIR GRAVES, THEN PISS AND SHIT ON THE REST OF THEIR FAMILIES GRAVE. HOORAY!!! HOORAY!!! HOORAY!!!
I WISH ALL OF WHITE REPUBLIKKKLAN AMERIKKKA WOULD GET NUKED MULTIPLE TIMES!!!! IT WOULD BE GREAT IF ONE DAY REPUBLIKKKLANS WOULD BE PUT IN AN AREA, AND THAT AREA WOULD GET NUKED, NUKED, NUKED, AND NUKED. WHEN YOU SEE OR HEAR THAT RACIST REPUBLIKKKLANS DIED, CELEBRATE THE SUFFERING OF THE CRYING FAMILY. IT FEELS BETTER THAN AN ORGASM WHEN I SEE THE CRYING FAMILY OF ONLY REPUBLIKKKLANS!!!
“OH YEAH!!!” I MEAN “OH YEEEAAAAAHHHHH!!!” THAT FELT GOOD!!!
HOPEFULLY, WHEN AMERIKKKA GETS ATTACKED BY FREEDOM FIGHTERS: NEVER, I MEAN NEVER CELEBRATE THE DEATH OF LIBERALS, OR PEOPLE ON OUR SIDE. MANY OF THEM ARE MINGLED IN WHERE WHITE REPULIKKKLANS LIVE!!! SO LETS HOPE ALL LIBERALS SURVIVE WHILE ALL REPUBLIKKKLANS DIE!!!
ALL LIBERALS SHOULD TOUGHEN UP AND STAND UP TO THE SCUMBAGS. INSTEAD OF SAYING “LOVE OUR ENEMIES”--I SAY “FUCK OUR ENEMIES, WE WILL DEFEAT YOU REDNECKS, AND THE OPPRESSED WILL FINALLY BECOME FREE!!!”
DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT MICHAEL MOORE DID TO THE RIGHT WING TERRORIST TALK SHOW HOST LARS LARSON IN PORTLAND, OREGON? I THOUGHT IT WAS GREAT. MICHAEL MOORE EXPOSES THE RACIST REPUBLIKKKLANS AND TEACHES THEM A LESSON!!! I LOVED EVERY SECOND OF LARS LARSONÂ’S SUFFERING!!! I HOPE HE SUFFERS MUCH MORE!!! LARS IS A VERY INCENSITIVE, SCUM RACIST!!!
FUCK LARS LARSON, FUCK LARS LARSON, FUCK LARS LARSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CONTACT ME AT: shootrepublicans@yahoo.com
LOVE: FREEDOM FIGHTER
Posted by: Shahan at September 21, 2005 03:49 PM (EjUFd)
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The names of people I have are child molesters, very racist, and beat up on there kids. Some of these people have done prison time for child molesting. Also, I have heard all these racists say racial slurs many times. Let everyone know who these scumbags are. I hope these slimebags get prank calls. Call Tim from a pay phone, he will trace it.
Tim & Mark
Works at: The Health Habit in Tigard, Oregon.
Tim is the owner of The Health . He has done prison time for child molesting, and I still see him around young boys. He beats up on his wife and kids all the time. I always heard him say racial slurs.
Mark constantly beats up on his wife (Karen). Mark & Tim are the scum of this planet.
WORK TELEPHONE #: (503) 639-1635
WORKS: MONDAY-FRIDAY 10:00 A.M. – 4:00 P.M.
Deanna Kirk
Works at: Watchworld at Washington Square in Tigard, Oregon.
Deanna Kirk beats her children constantly. One time she slapped her kid so hard, her kid cried for 2 solid hours. I know this because I used to be her neighbor. I was stupid for not calling the police. Her kids are always sick and hungry. They are always crying and it is sad. Now I moved away and by posting ads about her, I hope she gets enough threats that she will stop beating and neglecting her kids. Please, you gotta put a stop to her!!!
WORK TELEPHONE #: (503) 620-8951
WORKS: MONDAY-FRIDAY 10:00 A.M. – 5:00 P.M.
Natalie Cromartie
Works at: 24 Hour Fitness at Hollywood in Portland, Oregon.
Natalie is a vicious lady that did prison time for sleeping with a 11 year old girl. Natalie always yells at the minorities that work out there. My friend could not take it anymore and keyed her car.
WORK TELEPHONE #: (503) 281-4767
WORKS: MONDAY-FRIDAY 10:00 A.M. – 4:00 P.M.
Georgia Isaia
Rehabilitation Counselor
Works at: Department Of Human Services in Tigard, Oregon.
She is extremely racist and beats up on her kids. I used to be her neighbor, and I witnessed her beating on her kids.
WORK TELEPHONE #: (503) 670-0187 EXT. 406
WORKS: MONDAY-FRIDAY 10:00 A.M. – 4:00 P.M.
Amber Gardner
Corporate Sales Trainer
Works at: Activate Cellular in Tigard, Oregon.
Amber Gardner beats her children constantly and never hires a minority. She has gotten threats because of it.
CELL # (503) 705-0509
WORKS: MONDAY-FRIDAY 10:00 A.M. – 4:00 P.M.
Rob Davis
Bartender
Works at: The New Copper Penny in Portland, Oregon.
Rob Davis is the biggest CHILD MOLESTER. I am the cousin of the 10 year old girl he RAPED. I hope Rob rots in hell. Call and ask for Rob. The lady that answers the phone will say that there is no Rob working here, but she is lying. He is working TONIGHT. Ask Rob, or anyone that answers the phone, why Rob is a child molester.
WORK TELEPHONE #: (503) 777-1415 EXTENSION: 0
WORKS: FRIDAY-SATURDAY 10:00 P.M. – 2:30 A.M.
Kevin
DJ.
Works at: Mixers in Tigard, Oregon.
Kevin constantly beats up on his wife. He has done jail time for domestic violence. I always heard him say racial slurs.
WORK TELEPHONE #: (503) 684-3011
WORKS: EVERYNIGHT UNTIL 2:30 A.M.
Posted by: Prank These Childmolesters at September 29, 2005 03:46 PM (WD9vI)
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jesus and rastafari are the only way
you are the new KKK you fukkin muslim scum, die and burn with satan u arab peices of shit, and before u crakk on and bitch about my white bretherine, im a blakk-carribean
fukk u u racist bastards, america is whoopin ur ass with the power of jesus
glory to him in the highest
get over it desert niggers
love u
Posted by: fukk u at September 30, 2005 06:20 PM (DY0RO)
April 12, 2005
April 15th: Taxes Due, My Dad's Birthday, and BUY A GUN DAY!!
Well look who the cat dragged in! Long time friend Aaron must have finally got himself a job! For awhile there he was acting like one of them liberals--you know, on the welfare--but now that Arnold is in office I guess they kicked his lazy butt out of the welfare line.
Anyway, April 15th means a lot of things to a lot of people. But to bloggers it holds a special meaning. IT'S BUY A GUN DAY!
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How about "Restrict sales of .50 caliber sniper rifles to suspected terrorists in the United States Day"?
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 12, 2005 09:28 PM (FV4oJ)
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Got a gun, and plenty o' ammo.
Posted by: Carlos at April 12, 2005 09:41 PM (8e/V4)
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Another one? Where will I put it. The walls covered with them.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 13, 2005 03:41 AM (CBNGy)
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I too have a few. All of which I can break down and reasemble in the dark.. As well as shoot accurately. Of course some are bird guns and of no value at more than 10 or 15 yards. But I can get ya at 100 yards with the rifle and if youre close knock you down with a hit anywhere with the 45.
In 36 years my house has never been broken into, could be there is a message here progressive gun control folk.
Posted by: Rod Stanton at April 13, 2005 03:43 PM (xGzRD)
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I see Collin is now repeating the Brady Campaign's lies in addition to the terrorist lies he's posted in the past.
Posted by: Robin Roberts at April 13, 2005 08:06 PM (xauGB)
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April 15th the day we all pay the INFERLA REVENUI SERVICE or is it the INFERNAL ROBBERS SERVICE? so all that money they get can go to the NEA(National Endowment for the Arts)the UN the liberal pork spenders and into dumb projects like silly rainforests in iowa
Posted by: sandpiper at April 15, 2005 09:47 AM (9RChR)
Question for Readers on Comment Banning
More and more of my comment threads are degenerating into name calling.
Don't make me come down out of the ivory tower and put my foot up your asses!
Anyway, I rarely ban any one from making comments. But should I?
On the one hand, I like to be challenged. When you start banning people you weed out a potential pool of those who will be the most critical, and therefore those that are most willing to point out a flaw in your arguements.
On the other hand, sometimes these disagreements piss people off. Then name calling begins. And then it gets pretty nasty. I'm afraid many of our long-time readers have stopped commenting because they see this degeneration in dialogue.
So, what do you think? Should I just start banning people? Should we lay out some ground rules and then only ban those who break them? Any suggestions?
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Give us the rules. Then ban rule breakers fo a week or 2. 3 times and youre out forever.
Posted by: Rod Stanton at April 12, 2005 03:58 PM (HNgs/)
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Some of the language I've read, even by pious Moslems, is hardly PG-13. However, I say that everyone likes a good fight and politics is often a dirty business. Women and children be warned!
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 12, 2005 04:03 PM (oVu08)
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I would like to see the name "Scott Baio" banned, however.
Sorry Filthy.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 12, 2005 04:07 PM (oVu08)
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I don't mind the language, I'm guilty of it myself. But, Rusty, we tried the ban thingie before, remember, that COOqarUK, or whatever, he just kept showing up under a different name each time.
I don't know if you can do that, they would still sign on using another name, right?
Posted by: Laura at April 12, 2005 04:09 PM (L3PPO)
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If the name calling gets obscene or threatening, after a couple of warnings, ban their a$$. It takes away from intelligent discussion and scares some of your more thoughtful readers away. Otherwise let em have at it.
Posted by: traderrob at April 12, 2005 04:15 PM (3al54)
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Rusty,
personally I don't approve of namecalling. But you have to allow for the occasional frustrated outburts.
But if it's habitual, then give a warning or two, then ban.
Posted by: Carlos at April 12, 2005 04:23 PM (8e/V4)
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I like reading the upset responses from people who disagree with you as long as they are serious and intelligent. But I agree others then flame these people with name calling and they stop posting. Or Somtimes the opposite side starts it. Nothing like a good argument and Rusty seems to be able to start one. If I have been bad then just email me and I'll try to behave. I hate see you have to ban people. If you can't say if without profanity it just shows a lack of intelligence. Any idiot can spew forth a bunch of swear words. I'm not the brightest candle on the cake but I try to be civilized.
Posted by: howie at April 12, 2005 04:23 PM (D3+20)
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If you banned people using the worse sick language on this site we wouldn't have any liberals left to argue with.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 12, 2005 04:31 PM (CBNGy)
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Threats and profanity are probably what got Jawa booted from Google News.
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 12, 2005 04:33 PM (fufbw)
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Nope is was the use of the H word instead of "unfavorable response" that got him. Stupid Google BOT can read but not comprehend. Anyone think it wasn't a BOT??
Posted by: Howie at April 12, 2005 04:45 PM (D3+20)
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Hey, I don't start the name calling. But if some right winger gets upset with my posts and calls me a name I feel I have every right to turn the table. It would be nice if we could have honest discussions without name calling though. It might help if people realized that everyone on this site loves America, we just disagree on how we should honor her.
Posted by: greg at April 12, 2005 04:46 PM (/+dAV)
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Seriously Rusty. Some of the lanquage needs to be cleaned up. The filty language doesn't bother me as much as the anti-America traitors do. There is no reason to put up with Collin Baber. His constant anti-American retoric doesn't produce constructive thought. The reason he popped up here one day in all probability meant he/she/it was banned from another blog. Constantly critizing everything American is just to revolting to listen to. Is the intent of this blog to critize America or discuss issues that have bearing on our lives? Namely, Islam and all the hate that it causes.
That being said. It's your blog. Your job is to run it any way you please. My job is to fight against the anti-Americans any way I can.
Good luck on your decision. As any good team player should. I will support you whatever you come up with.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 12, 2005 04:47 PM (CBNGy)
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The English language is a rich one. Let people use it. Who cares about salty language? I say ban no one. After all, one can say truly evil things in a seemingly civil manner. Right, Collin?
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 12, 2005 04:52 PM (oVu08)
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Dr. Shackleford,
As my partner tells me. DO SOAP, NOT DOPE, AND KEEP IT CLEAN!.
Yes, the English language is very robust. Folks can be creative and get their thoughts across without sinking to the cesspool.
If they can't follow a few simple rules then restrict them and then ban if they can't be somewhat civil.
Posted by: Ron Wright at April 12, 2005 05:02 PM (wIdaE)
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Greg needs to go back to his posts. This turkey pot is calling the kettle black. In almost every instance Greg or his like (same retoric)cohorts start the filthy lanquage first. Another liberal thing. An inability to see themselves.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 12, 2005 05:03 PM (CBNGy)
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The thing is, I'm not too upset over the profanity. It's the name calling that is starting to piss me off.
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 12, 2005 05:03 PM (JQjhA)
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"As my partner tells me. DO SOAP..."
Is this a business partner, and if so, what kind of business is it?
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 12, 2005 05:04 PM (oVu08)
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what bullshit...maybe you should just ban anyone who disagrees with you too. its not a far stretch. I suggest you look at making some rules. I like those posted on beldarblog. I will copy his rule on this here for you:
"Comments to my posts are welcome, including comments that express different points of view. I insist that they be civil and reasonably nonprofane (roughly PG-13). I strongly discourage ad hominem (personal) attacks on other commenters, but recognize that a reasonable amount of snark is an essential part of the blogosphere.
I don't require that you use a valid email or real name on your comments, although I may institute TypeKey or some similar feature when TypePad makes it available. If you choose not to use a valid email, I'll have no way of contacting you about your comment other than by a reply in a subsequent comment on that same post. I reserve the absolute right to delete or edit comments at my discretion, which may sometimes seem arbitrary despite my efforts to act reasonably."
Posted by: Mr. K at April 12, 2005 05:11 PM (22x5h)
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No No No Just ban Greg
Posted by: mike at April 12, 2005 05:17 PM (TJ8HB)
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ground rules. Something such as Little Miss Attila has, "attack ideas, not people."
Posted by: William Teach at April 12, 2005 05:27 PM (HxpPK)
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Like greyrooster, I abhor anti-American slurs. IMO, those who post them are simply verbally--and publicly--m*******ting and need an audience in order to achieve their narcissistic release. Such sad and minimally endowed souls are to be pitied, not enabled, so I suggest that the most effective countermeasure (punishment?) would be to ignore their pathetic mewlings. As for the profanity, it's tempting sometimes, but IMO the person who sinks into the muck first loses the argument. That seems to be W's point-of-view and from what I've seen, it does seem to be working.
Posted by: ptritsch at April 12, 2005 05:30 PM (V/ciu)
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Rusty
I apologize for my earlier profanity, but the references to Americans as Nazi's tend to bring out the worst in me. Hell, even the mention of those abhorant scum of the earth brings about RCOB moments. Ban me if you must.
Posted by: Defense Guy at April 12, 2005 06:01 PM (lVjfM)
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I understand. It's not so much the profanity as it is the ad hominum attacks.
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 12, 2005 06:24 PM (JQjhA)
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rooster,
you can take on the anti-Americans without resorting to ad hominems.
And don't ban greg.
Posted by: Carlos at April 12, 2005 06:39 PM (8e/V4)
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U should ban that moron Filth Allah. His email is allahsucksballs@somehthing.com??:S
Posted by: Anwar at April 12, 2005 06:55 PM (lxByx)
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I think you should ban Carlos the Jackass, international blogspot commentary terrorist, also known as "numb nuts" because that cretin called me a moron...but can barely rite or spel hisself.
Posted by: Mr. K at April 12, 2005 07:08 PM (22x5h)
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I say ban everyone on both sides, no matter what, except for me. After all, I am your only blogchild.
You'll do that for me won't you daddy? ::sad puppy eyes::
Posted by: Eric at April 12, 2005 07:30 PM (lK7Sh)
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I just banned my first poster. He pulled the "you (me and my commenters) idols must/should be Nazis" card.
I felt bad after I slapped him and banned his IP (similiar to your thoughts) but I have no use for the misuse of the Nazi smear, or Leftist Nazi calling in general. I had to draw the line, and when a comment guy starts to call the folks in my sandbox Nazi, I figure it is time to let him go back to DU and MoveOn.
I won't make a habit of it, neither should you - but banning is like porno, you know it (when to use it) when you see it.
Posted by: CDR Salamander at April 12, 2005 07:31 PM (MrU41)
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I ban after firing two shots across the bow. Usually that separates the trolls from those who are just argumentative. Those that want to argue, give a reason or settle down. The trolls post something obscene or offensive.
Posted by: Tom at April 12, 2005 07:59 PM (9OL2r)
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Mr. K,
you found a typo in my post? Doesn't change a thing, you're still a moron.
The fact that you've been focusing on a typo only proves it.
Posted by: Carlos at April 12, 2005 08:18 PM (8e/V4)
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Carlos, I think Mr. K is joking (see the spelling in his comment)
Actually, I'm thinking of letting Filthy Allah guest blog. Sick humor is fine.
How about laying this is rule #1.
When you're being sarcastic, do this at the end of the comment "/sarcasm". I've noticed a few people firing shots at each other over nothing more than a joke gone bad.
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 12, 2005 08:22 PM (JQjhA)
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It's your blog, go ahead and ban people. The point is to have an interesting debate, not provide an outlet for immature people who don't know how to conduct themselves.
In my view, profanity and personal attacks get tossed from the getgo. Ditto anyone who uses the Nazi smear. It trivializes a modern-day horror, it's a blatant attempt to manipulate and it's shorthand for "I have neither ideas nor arguments."
Posted by: vivi at April 12, 2005 08:40 PM (nTEvo)
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The question on whether to ban or not in my opinion, would be to ban the anti-American rantings...such as "praise Allah, death to Americans" kind of crap. Profanity doesn't bother me and I'm a woman, as long as we're cursing and not cursing AT each other.
But, as I said before, Rusty, how can you ban someone? They will only come back on with another name. Remember that idiot who kept calling me a motherf**king b**ch??? You banned him and he just kept at it under different monikers. Eventually, he left.
Posted by: Laura at April 12, 2005 08:57 PM (L3PPO)
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I have only resorted to profanity and personal attacks as self-defense or when provoked. Most of the time I am trying to hold intelligent conversations.
Posted by: Jim at April 12, 2005 09:47 PM (jcSwY)
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Laura,
Rusty can ban his IP address.
Posted by: Carlos at April 12, 2005 09:49 PM (8e/V4)
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>>>"Carlos, I think Mr. K is joking (see the spelling in his comment)"
I know he was, Rusty. I was just making an observation.
Posted by: Carlos at April 12, 2005 10:08 PM (8e/V4)
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Banning is useless. Ban the name, and they'll make a new one, ban the IP, they'll get an IP-faker. Perhaps you should make some kind of log in system, that would allow you to control who gets to write stuff here (would ruin the freedom of expression, but anyway)
Posted by: A Finn at April 13, 2005 01:58 AM (cWMi4)
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Quite surprised no-one mentioned me specifically to be banned. Thought I might've pissed of some people. (Collin comes to mind for some reason...)
Posted by: A Finn at April 13, 2005 03:59 AM (cWMi4)
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Jim needs to go back and check his own posts. He is always the one who starts the name calling/filty lanquage first. Liberals. Refuse to see themselves.
Rusty: You are correct on the joke thing. Time and again when our liberal jealots fail to spend the mental energy to get the joke/sarcasm they immediately respond with the NAZI/KKK thing. I am not offended by the normal fuck you faggot posts. I am, as any normal person, offended by the stick things in the ass/mouth garbage that emits from the above people that claim to be just defending themselves. How that defends themselves is beyond me. But like any moonbat they refuse to admit they could possibly be wrong.
I would like to see the likes of Jim, Greg, Butch review their posts and show where anyone started using the vile, putrid language they use first. Most of us attribute their language to upbringing and ignore it. Some don't.
And yes! Mentioning this fact makes me a Racist.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 13, 2005 04:05 AM (CBNGy)
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A Finn: You got it all wrong. You are one of us. You passed the test.
Collin Baber is another story. That freak couldn't pass gas correctly. That's why what comes from his mouth smells so much.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 13, 2005 04:23 AM (CBNGy)
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Hey wait a minute here. You are considering banning personal attacks on traitors and terrorist supporters that make personal attacks against my country, my president, our military?
No way.
You mean they can't call be racist anymore? Unfair.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 13, 2005 04:30 AM (CBNGy)
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Laura:
"profanity doesn't bother me and I'm a women".
It that politically correct. Ha, Ha.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 13, 2005 04:35 AM (CBNGy)
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Hey Rusty, whatever happened to your liberal professor pal, with that blog, uh, what was it called...cowbytheudders, or something like that? Is he an example of a loyal reader who is too skeered to post because someone may call him some names?
And by the way, I wasn't joking. I really, really, really, reely, reley, meen it.
I gotta go, and I'm not coming back because Carlos the Jackass, aka Numb Nutz, aka Omar bin Bonin-heem says I'm a mormon, and now my feelings are hurt.
Posted by: Mr. K at April 13, 2005 06:08 AM (22x5h)
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Dear Mr. Finn,
As long as no one advocates the use of force against the United States, no worries. If you wish to ridicule the Bushian War Cult's twisted hubris, the more the merrier!
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 13, 2005 06:09 AM (fufbw)
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If you have to tell people it's sarcasm than you need to get more intelligent commenters. Or at least one's with thicker skin...I mean it's a BLOG, and no offense, but it's not like one of those uptight blogs where all the authors do is quote the news. You try to make it funny /sarcasm, so people try to be funny in the comments /truth, and sometimes funny includes bashing people. If it's done in a snarky way, I laugh. If it's done in a way that resembles kindergarten invectives, I skip past it. Let them fight each other out, commenter death match style, if they are being assanine to care so much.
Oh and Rusty sucks /joke
Posted by: Wittysexkitten at April 13, 2005 06:10 AM (/koaq)
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prrrrr, got any pictures over there on that blog, sweetie??
Posted by: Mr. K at April 13, 2005 07:00 AM (07WwJ)
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>>>"As long as no one advocates the use of force against the United States, no worries. If you wish to ridicule the Bushian War Cult's twisted hubris, the more the merrier!"
Collin,
the problem with your worldview is that if you really believe in the Bushian war cult, then it logically leads to force being used against the U.S.
And most Leftists do believe exactly that. So what are you waiting for? Grow some balls.
Posted by: Carlos at April 13, 2005 07:47 AM (8e/V4)
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"I would like to see the likes of Jim, Greg, Butch review their posts and show where anyone started using the vile, putrid language they use first."-Rooster
Several people on this string have accused me of instigating volleys of profanity and aggressive blogging.
Please review yesterday's string at:
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/075421.php
You will note that it wasn't until the second profane attack on me that I responded in kind. These attacks were initiated by DefenseGuy and then Confederate Yankee and in the past initiates have included Greyrooster, Filthy Allah, Obsnooks, inter alia. The motivation is that they disagreed with my posts and couldn't argue in a civil manner.
Having grown up in academia I''m sure you agree with the valuable concept of peer review Rusty. I wouldn't change anything, I'd just as soon handle things myself. But it's your call.
Posted by: greg at April 13, 2005 08:26 AM (/+dAV)
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Yes, because nothing says loving like a good sig heil.
Posted by: Defense Guy at April 13, 2005 08:39 AM (jPCiN)
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sig heil/traitor/commie...it's all the same
I can handle it, can you?
Posted by: greg at April 13, 2005 08:46 AM (/+dAV)
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If you dish it out, be prepared to receive it back.
Rooster dishes it out, but he doesn't complain when it comes back at him. That seems entirely consistent to me.
And in all fairness to greg, he's aggressive and passionate, but he's never abused me.
Posted by: Carlos at April 13, 2005 09:18 AM (8e/V4)
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1) "If you dish it out, be prepared to receive it back."-Carlos
I am, see the above post.
2)"Rooster dishes it out, but he doesn't complain when it comes back at him. That seems entirely consistent to me. "-Carlos
Sounds like he's complaining to me.
"Greg needs to go back to his posts. This turkey pot is calling the kettle black. In almost every instance Greg or his like (same retoric)cohorts start the filthy lanquage first."-Rooster
How ironic. Talking about calling people black Rooster called Sgt. Finnegan's CHILDREN "porch monkeys" and that degenerated into a challange for a duel!. My best guess as to why MyPetJawa got tossed from Google News is Rooster's racism.
3"And in all fairness to greg, he's aggressive and passionate, but he's never abused me."-Carlos
Nor would I abuse anyone else who argues as eloquently as Carlos. In fact, you could be illiterate for all I care and I'd still treat you with respect if you return the favor.
Posted by: greg at April 13, 2005 09:35 AM (/+dAV)
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I thought the 'who started it' was the subject. I was unaware that the discussion was going to shift to whatever topic you felt was best suited to your purposes greg. Honest discourse at its best.
Posted by: Defense Guy at April 13, 2005 09:46 AM (jPCiN)
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Defense Guy,
Your post doesn't even make any sense. You started it, see: http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/075421.php
I was talking to Carlos and then you, apparently seeking a mannage au twat, started humping my leg. It was a minor nuusance as I just had to shake my leg and slap you down off of me.
Posted by: greg at April 13, 2005 10:12 AM (/+dAV)
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"On the one hand, I like to be challenged. When you start banning people you weed out a potential pool of those who will be the most critical, and therefore those that are most willing to point out a flaw in your arguements." - Rusty
This is very revealing. From this statement it sounds like you are predisposed to banning those who are the "most critical" of you and not those who use foul language or ad hominems. Again, peer review is what makes academicians intellectually honest. Your confusing statement also demonstrates a tacit recognition of this.
Posted by: greg at April 13, 2005 10:22 AM (/+dAV)
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An odd little world you inhabit there greg. I can stand up for my own words, and yet you feel the need to hide from yours. Don't worry about it though. I am learning to avoid your comments from here on in.
Posted by: Defense Guy at April 13, 2005 10:38 AM (jPCiN)
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I believe so because what's happening is people are getting off topic and fighting amongst themselves and the language is getting pretty disgusting making it harder for people like me to post.
See, I read what you post and if I have a comment, I comment ONLY on what you posted and I never read the other comments because they drive me totally insane. Hammorbi had to do it to and if you go to his site, Rusty, you'll see in the upper right corner "comment rules." I think people should just comment once and move on.
Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at April 13, 2005 10:46 AM (PEKrh)
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"An odd little world you inhabit there greg. I can stand up for my own words, and yet you feel the need to hide from yours. Don't worry about it though. I am learning to avoid your comments from here on in." - Defense Guy
That's a good smart boy!
Posted by: greg at April 13, 2005 10:52 AM (/+dAV)
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Greyrooster - I am not going to get into a childish "you started it" arguement with you. You are the LAST person to be complaining about this. You have instigated every single internet altercation between us and even when you are posting in another conversation you find time to mention "that faggot Jim". Your words hold no water here. You make a habit of attacking commentors who you don't agree with. The sad thing is that when I gave you a sample of your own medicine you ran away and then cried about how I have a "potty mouth". And now you are trying to get me banned. Hilarious.
Posted by: Jim at April 13, 2005 11:09 AM (jcSwY)
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Mr. K-Yes I keep an entire stash of pics of me in a gold lame bikini and my hair up in Princess Lea buns just WAITING for Jawaperverts to ask me to send to them. I'm so glad you queried! Just please tuck $25 in my PayPal tip jar. And I also have a bridge to sell you.
See-that was my attempt to avoid calling him a drooling pathetic porn addict with a hand for a best friend and man tits. Because THAT would be ad hominen.
Side note-does anybody else see the irony in the squabbling occuring on a post about reducing the squabbling? Just a thought...
Posted by: Wittysexkitten at April 13, 2005 12:17 PM (vhWf1)
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Well done, whisker-biscuit! Carlos, study the reply above, and take notes.
Posted by: Mr. K at April 13, 2005 12:30 PM (22x5h)
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Mr. K,
you should try taking your own advice.
/numb nutz
Posted by: Carlos at April 13, 2005 02:09 PM (8e/V4)
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If we keep this up, we'll ALL be banned, arguing over whether or not someone or something should be banned....
LMAO!!
Posted by: Laura at April 13, 2005 03:08 PM (L3PPO)
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Jim I see you return to your same lying bullshit. Run away from a traitorous faggot like you. In your dreams.
Greg. You wish to talk about yesterday only. What a bullshit artist.
You and faggot jim have always in every instance commenced with the putrid, foul crap. I just spent several hours going back to confirm my claims and I am correct.
You and faggot jim have been the biggest distraction to intelligent thinking on this blog.
I exclude the commie Colon Babler as that idiot isn't human.
Once again you liberal moonbats omit self examination.
Lowlife America hating prick.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 14, 2005 12:04 AM (CBNGy)
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Jim: roach747@yahoo.com
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 14, 2005 12:08 AM (FV4oJ)
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I know a Rooster in Texas. He's 5'3", that's why they call him a rooster. Is that your problem too Greyrooster?
Are you a bitter little sawed-off stump of a man?
Posted by: greg at April 14, 2005 08:14 AM (/+dAV)
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Hey I have learned to just skip over the commentors that I do not want to hear from. I do not respond to their posts nor do I comment on the conversation they may be haveing with another blogger. I am self editing the site so as not to be drowned by the drivel that is espoused at times. Banning is only a form of censorship. I like the different ideas, and some of the banter here. Why squelch that?? It should be encouraged. Someone swearing, and or name calling reduces my respect level for them and when my tolerance level is reached I just do not read any posts by them any more. I ALWAYS read what witty sex kitten has to say..... pant.. pant.. pant... drool drool... Her posts are always entertaining. I was a morning show On Air Personality and appreciate her humor!!
Chris
Posted by: Chris at April 14, 2005 09:54 AM (uXIKa)
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No Greg, you candy assed little traitor. I'm 6'3" and 265.
Many years ago I was given the title rooster because of a disposition that causes me to slap the shit out of traitorous little bastards.
I was given the name greyrooster by some friends when an occassion occured that required my son to slap the shit out of two pricks before I could get to them. The guys said "looks like there's a new rooster on the block. The old man's getting grey. Hence, greyrooster stuck and little rooster was born. Which doesn't make sense as he is 3" taller than me.
I travel to Texas a lot. Maybe, someday I will have the honor of showing you up close and personal.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 15, 2005 05:27 AM (7480p)
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Greyrooster,
It would be my pleasure I'm sure. And who knows, I'm might drop in on you in Picayune just to say hi.
Posted by: greg at April 15, 2005 08:16 AM (/+dAV)
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I'm late to this party, but on my blog I don't have written rules -- I get so few trolls anymore I don't need rules, just more commenters.
Anyway, what I watch for, learned from reading more widely-read blogs, is:
1) Gratuitous and clearly unprovoked name-calling -- if a brand-new commenter starts off his remarks by disparaging someone he disagrees with, in the very first sentence -- and in a thread where there's been no heat at all (or worse, no comments at all) -- it's a bad sign.
2) A habit of posting comments that are totally off-topic, or mind-bogglingly non-sequitur (for other than clearly humorous purposes). And,
3) A tendency to keep hashing over the same arguments after everyone else in the @#$!ing blogosphere has chimed in to rebut everything the commenter in question has said -- and said, and said, and said, utterly impervious to the remote but very real possibility that when nobody agrees with him, he just might need to reconsider his position. You know, just in case the whole world isn't crazy except for him.
Posted by: McGehee at April 15, 2005 01:57 PM (S504z)
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Greg: #1 I don't live in Picayune. #2 you couldn't get in the neighborhood. #3. Would be my pleasure.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 16, 2005 08:19 AM (sB5vg)
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I agree with the folks who said that it's possible to disagree without using filthy language, so here we go- your problem is that you're pro- Bush and you can't see what a big- fat lier he is and if you guys continue like this and keep believing every lie he throws at you then you'll end up re-electing him, and one by one - he'll target all us third worlders and we'll just keep getting more and more anti- American because- you're not the only ones who love your nation - we don't like foreign powers marching into our countries based on a few lies that their totally American people believe and leveling our cities to rubbles- so we have to live in tents because you guys think we need freeing- so while you continue your lives in your fancy air-conditioned houses with all your facilities- we are forced to live in sub-human conditions- no education cos you've blasted the living day lights out of our homes, schools, colleges, offices and places of worship.
So yes- vote for your Bush- make our lives hell- and then go to church and pray to Jesus to pardon your sins-. Well, do you think he will?
And I almost forgot- first arm our nations- I'm talking of all our African- Asian Islamic nations- arm the dissendents- follow the policy of divide and rule- and then label the ppl you've armed as terrorists and attack us- believe the lies your President spreads about what?- having nuclear weapons/ supporting Osama- by the way who trained the Taliban- you did. Who armed Pakistan- you did. I can go on - see and I haven't used one filthy word- ain't I sooooo nice.
And I know most of you Americans haven't read my whole comment- cos it hurt your eyes maybe? Cos I was a tad bit Anti- American- was I?
In conclusion- UP YOURS- I won't say more- go ahead- ruin more of our lives- we won't upset you by being ANti- American on your precious bloggie- but I do hope you Jesus leaves you out of Heaven- BTW- I'm not Moussie/ Catholic/ Hindu/Parsi/Jewish but I hate you all the same- guess why? Cos you're an American who still believes your Govt's lies- heck - WAKE UP TO THE TRUTH- Save the world- Don't vote for the NEOCONs- don't believe them either. And again-- in good language - UP YOURS.
Posted by: Tssk at April 17, 2005 12:38 PM (Hj4oN)
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God bless you Tssk. Now theres someone that knows what he is talking about.
Posted by: Anwar at April 17, 2005 02:12 PM (YY5vs)
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tssk
I am curious to know. How are you living in a tent city with an internet connection. Seems to me that you would be more concerned with walls around you instead of spewing anti american sentiments.....?
Posted by: rob at April 23, 2005 08:58 PM (2AnvL)
Bonfire of the Vanities
Go check it out. I especially love Glenn Reynold's submission.
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Jay Tea at Wizbang Makes an Ass Out of Himself
Worst. Tirade. Ever. Dumbass.
Seriously. I'm at a loss for words over how idiotic this is. Dean pretty much sums up my feelings here.
I don't usually comment on religious doctrine, but some of the stuff being said over at Wizbang lately is getting borderline insane.
I wonder if saying Mass for the dead is also deeply offensive to Jay Tea?
When the families of Holocaust survivors lodge a protest over the 'baptism for the dead' practice of Mormons, they are feeding the fires of anti-semitism. Protesting what is essentially a harmless practice, and one done out of good will, is the kind of thing that anti-semites love to point out.
It's one thing to bring up the Holocaust when defending Israel's right to exist, it's another thing altogether to bring it up when complaining about a doctrine that you oppose.
The fact that the Holocaust is mentioned at all reminds me of Tony Robert's character 'Rob' in Annie Hall.
I think Aaron's response here is the proper one from Jews. Eh, don't like it but no big deal.
Most Christian denominations believe that non-Christians will go to hell. So what? And that is deeply offensive because....??? I think most Christian denominations are wrong. Most of my neighbors are Southern Baptists and in no uncertain terms do they condemn me to hell. Many of them are deeply concerned about my soul--and they tell me.
I'm flattered. I'm glad I have neighbors with such concern. Much more worrisome is a society which produces religious faith that not only condemns non-believers to hell, but which is willing to help them on their way.
The only thing offensive in this story is the fact that the Mormon Church is caving to these ninnies. Grow some nads people! So freaking what if these people take offense where none is given. Deal with it.
Just remember that South Park claims only Mormons go to heaven. Who are we to argue with that?
UPDATE: Holocaust.
Jews have a perfectly legitimate reason for being sensitive, as Aaron points out in the comments.
But by invoking the Holocaust into this debate (as the delegation did when they took special umbrage at Holocaust victims being baptized by proxy) we cheapen the enormity and uniquely evil nature of that event.
UPDATE II: Amen to Bogus Gold:
"Die and then we'll convert you" has got to be the very least intrusive conversion practice in the history of religion. You don't have to participate. Your relatives don't have to be bothered. No one takes out an article in a newspaper announcing your post-mortem conversion, and thereby sullying your proudly Mormon-free reputation.If the Mormon faith is true, they're doing these deceased folks the best good they could possibly do. If their faith is false, they're doing no harm and bothering no one but themselves. Unless you're just looking to be offended anyway.
Another UPDATE: Yeah, I like Jay Tea. But even the best of us say idiotic things every once and awhile.......
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"When the families of Holocaust survivors lodge a protest over the 'baptism for the dead' practice of Mormons, they are feeding the fires of anti-semitism."
What an idiot.
Posted by: actus at April 12, 2005 09:33 AM (CqheE)
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To me it's like a bunch of children arguing over their imaginary friends. It'd be funny if it weren't for the fact that these are supposedly rational adults.
My imaginary friend can kick your imaginary friend's ass, buddy!
Posted by: andy at April 12, 2005 09:59 AM (vX6Is)
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Sorry. A couple thousand years of forced conversions makes some Jews a little sensitive on the subject.
Tell me Rusty, if this was an Islamic practice, would you really feel the same way?
In addition, even if they don't intend it, implicit in the "afterlife baptism" is a condemnation of the way the deceased's life was lived.
Y'know what - this issue does make my blood boil. Maybe it shouldn't. If I wear my rationalist hat there's "no harm done." But I don't want them praying for my parents. That was my job, and I did it, and I get to decide, and G-d gets to decide whether those prayers meant anything or had any effect here or in the afterlife. It offends me that a stranger would come along, pat me on the head, and say, "That was nice. But we'll help your parents actually get into heaven now."
Posted by: Eric J at April 12, 2005 10:01 AM (hrQvk)
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Eric, you are just being silly. All religions, including Islam, condemn other relilgions. So what? Condemning me to hell is nothing. I don't care. How is proxy baptism 'forced conversion' exactly?
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 12, 2005 10:06 AM (JQjhA)
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This is about as helpful to Jews as that Liberal "rabbi" who recently complained that lowering the U.S. flag at half mast for the Pope was offensive, and unconstitutional. He was practically begging for catholics to get offended.
Imagine a Jewish "rabbi" trying to hurt the cause of his own people. Only a Liberal could be so clueless. Leave it to Liberals to stir that pot. And then if it reflects badly on jews, the "rabbi" gets his self-justifying axe to grind about "anti-semitism." Leave it to Liberals. They do everything in their power to drive a wedge between the races and peoples of faith in this country in order to self-justify themselves.
They need racial/religious friction at all costs. It's mother's milk to Liberals. It's their reason to live, like COCAINE. Without it they sink into lethargy and meaninglessness.
Not to mention "Liberal" and "rabbi" are nearly as oxymoronic as "conservative" "hippie". You jews should take such self-described "rabbis" and cane them for using that respected religious title for the purpose of furthering their secular Liberal politics.
They're phonies. They aren't real rabbis. Liberal Jews hardly even believe in the God, let alone the God of their forefathers.
Posted by: Carlos at April 12, 2005 10:09 AM (8e/V4)
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>>>"To me it's like a bunch of children arguing over their imaginary friends. It'd be funny if it weren't for the fact that these are supposedly rational adults."
That would be logical if you think mormonism is a false religion.
The irony here is that the less pious the Jew, the more "offended" he is. Pious Jews are secure enough in their faith not to even give this the time of day. That's why this is so ridiculous.
This is Liberal Jews doing what Liberals do best, stirring up the pot.
Posted by: Carlos at April 12, 2005 10:18 AM (8e/V4)
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I just posted over there congratulating Jay Tea on becoming the Jerry Springer of Wizbang. I hope he doesn't think that was a compliment...
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at April 12, 2005 12:12 PM (P1Gho)
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CaYa,
Considering the competition over there, that's really saying something!
Posted by: The Commissar at April 12, 2005 12:33 PM (kP2eG)
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I use the Mormons more than they'll ever use me. For the better part of a year, I lived in their genealogy library here in Los Angeles doing my family tree using their microfilm.
Some weird cult could invent anything and say it was converting my ancestors AND my descendants. If I don't believe in what they say, it costs me nothing to ignore their nonsense.
Hey Rusty, some new cult spit on a picture of a Springfield Armory 1911 and burned Polaroids of you and me and says that ritual now makes us believing members of the Gun Control Kook Cult.
Yeah, right.
Wish to take issue with one thing, though. It pains me to think that what Liberal Jews do translates into antisemitism. The argument for that is a lot weaker than the 19 centuries of Christianity in Europe equating to the Holocaust. Those seeds of canonized clergy-based antisemitism seem, blessedly, not to have found welcoming soil here in the USA, and that alone is a strong reason to oppose any attempt to make us more like Europe.
A difficulty is the semantic difference in the words Jew and Jewish. One can be a non-Jewish Jew, like Noam Chomsky or Cardinal Ratzinger. Being a Jew is also a nationality. An American can grow up to be an un-American American. The difficulty is that Christianity says one can't be a non-Christian Christian... yet Christians cannot come up with a guidebook to allow us non-Christians to quantitatively determine who is and who isn't.
Given that 1 out of 3 Jews was murdered within the lifetimes of people still living while the US denied refuge, a bit of extra empathy may be in order until a few pogrom-free generations have passed. That our State Department has benefitted from a the Saudi-funded retirement plan for decades ensures that I'll keep my guard up.
As for religious ritual... that's between us and our Maker and we'll hopefully find out the truth when our time comes to meet Him. I judge people by what they do to others "made in His image" here on earth. I'd sooner have my kids stay with Jerry Falwell for a weekend than Noam Chomsky. But I'd sooner have them with Joe Lieberman than Pat Buchanan.
Posted by: Aaron's cc: at April 12, 2005 12:42 PM (UxMXb)
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Mormons are baptizing dead people? That's just fucking stupid, that's what it is.
Posted by: Mr. K at April 12, 2005 12:44 PM (22x5h)
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No, they are baptizing in behalf of dead people. And Catholics pray for dead people, and so do Hindus and Buddhists, and some Shintoists pray TO dead people. People do a lot of things.........
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 12, 2005 01:11 PM (JQjhA)
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Uh, oh. Here comes the guy who gets to say "I know because I was one of them". Well, I was. For nineteen years (on and off for the last few of those years to be fair). I currently drink way too much beer to be Mormo-Kosher.
Baptism for the dead has gone on for decades. It's not forced baptism. The doctorine goes something like this: you baptize someone by proxy. The dead one is then given the opportunity to hear, embrace, or reject that baptism. No one is forced to do or even hear anything. Hendrix? Baptised. Jerry Garcia? Baptised. Are either one a Mormon? Don't know. It's basically an extension of their missionary program.
Mormons (often reffered to as the American Jews) aren't all that spooky. Check out our blog. Some who post there are devout.
Posted by: Sean the INFDL at April 12, 2005 01:13 PM (97hlx)
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Aaron,
and I'd sooner have my kids stay with an orthodox jew for the weekend than with a Liberal christian. And I'm a christian.
Posted by: Carlos at April 12, 2005 01:17 PM (8e/V4)
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That would be logical if you think mormonism is a false religion.
Thank you. As it happens, I think all religions are false.
Posted by: andy at April 12, 2005 01:19 PM (vX6Is)
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I'll be concerned when those Mormons start passing the plate and those dead converts start filling it!
Till then . . . Oferchrissake!
Posted by: large at April 12, 2005 01:23 PM (VRK2g)
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Andy,
then yours is the natural and logical position.
I believe in christianity, and not other religions. Therefore, I couldn't give a crap what they believe.
That's why alleged Jews complaining about mormons, and secularists complaining about christian beliefs about hell, etc., is so RIDICULOUS.
These people are troublemakers, nothing more.
Posted by: Carlos at April 12, 2005 01:35 PM (8e/V4)
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yeah rusty, people do a lot of things. if I saw someone fucking around my father's or a loved one's grave, I might kick some ass. Mormons, Muslims, Catholics, Jews, whoever, mind your own goddamn business, and leave dead poeple alone. whats next? "loving" dead people?
Posted by: Mr. K at April 12, 2005 02:27 PM (22x5h)
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Mr. K is a perfect of how irrational people can be.
Short of exhuming and vandalizing a corpse, there's nothing anybody can "do" to a dead person. IT'S ALL IN YOUR HEAD YOUR MORON.
Posted by: Carlos at April 12, 2005 02:31 PM (8e/V4)
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Carlos - when you can learn to spell, and maybe write a sentence or even a phrase or two that is complete and makes some sense, then you may call me a moron. Until then, if you care to show up without my permission, even at the location where my dog is buried, and begin to dance, chant, drool, toss water, and spout incantations, you may find your last thought is wondering if the Mor(m)ons will be baptizing you. Mind your own goddamn business, keep your religious beliefs to yourself, and most of all, do not fuck around with my loved ones, dead or living.
Posted by: Mr. K at April 12, 2005 03:14 PM (cu0H9)
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What I find truly offensive is the fact that you've seen Annie Hall.
Posted by: Leopold Stotch at April 12, 2005 04:53 PM (H9Zch)
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Baptizing the dead has no scripture basis, but then again, nor does Mormonism. I fail to see the link to anti-Semitism. It's just anti-logical.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 12, 2005 04:59 PM (oVu08)
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It is my understanding that this is not forced conversion but a proxy ceremony that the recipients are free to accept or reject but must be done in the physical world (I guess there are no baptisms in the "spirit world".) I know its goofy (every religion is) but its being misrepresented. Aside from being a stupid thing to complain about. Is there no more pressing issue?
Posted by: slickdpdx at April 12, 2005 05:33 PM (MjGRu)
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Proud to be a non religious racist. It's obvious that we will someday take over the world while the religious fight among themselves.
I'm glad that America is my God and Yoda is his prophet. I know Yoda is there. I seen him in the movies. Never seen your guys.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 12, 2005 05:34 PM (CBNGy)
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Arguing over souls is silly. If people wish to project fantasies on my soul after I've moved on, that is their choice.
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 12, 2005 06:19 PM (FV4oJ)
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I just got threatened with violence over the internet. That's balls.
Posted by: Carlos at April 12, 2005 06:41 PM (8e/V4)
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>>>"It's obvious that we will someday take over the world while the religious fight among themselves."
rooster,
Actually, I think atheism has had its heyday.
Atheism is now in decline in Europe and is being replaced by paganism and spiritualism. Soon islam will be the single biggest religion in Europe.
Posted by: Carlos at April 12, 2005 06:44 PM (8e/V4)
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Thats good news...right?
Posted by: Anwar at April 12, 2005 07:02 PM (lxByx)
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Hey Carlos, come and get you some, I opened a can just for you.
http://roomforrant.blogspot.com/2005/04/for-carlos-jackass-notorious.html
Posted by: Mr. K at April 12, 2005 07:04 PM (22x5h)
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>>>"A 17-year-old Morrisville youth was being held on $100,000 bail after police said he raided a tomb in a cemetery and removed a head from a corpse."
Mr. K,
was the corpse any relation of yours? I'm hoping he gets his head skullfucked.
Posted by: Carlos at April 12, 2005 07:51 PM (8e/V4)
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That tomb raider must be put on trial and punished for his misbehavior.
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 13, 2005 06:11 AM (fufbw)
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what another part of the body, besides the head, gets skullfucked, Numb Nutz?
Posted by: Mr. K at April 13, 2005 07:13 AM (07WwJ)
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Mr. K,
shit for brains, in your case, getting sodomized.
Posted by: Carlos at April 13, 2005 09:30 AM (8e/V4)
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Jay Tea is no idiot.
I think I know what post you are talking about but geez, Rusty, that's a mean title.
Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at April 13, 2005 10:48 AM (PEKrh)
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But I have to admit you're right - Wizbang has lost it's magic lately.
Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at April 13, 2005 10:49 AM (PEKrh)
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Numb Nutz:
keep trying, you're getting better. However, judging from your choice of insults, your other alias, Omar bin Bonin-heem, is right on target...
For more improvement, at least try and be somewhat clever.
Posted by: Mr. K at April 13, 2005 11:18 AM (22x5h)
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I posted this @ yourish.com. I think the followers of Islam should start converting Mormons who have passed away and see if they "like" that. I mean its just helping them and all!
Posted by: Robert at April 13, 2005 03:52 PM (DT/Pe)
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Carlos: Does this mean that Islamics are the last of the dumb shits in the world to reject religion?
I understand where you get your beliefs from. Europe is in trouble for allowing the lowest of humanity to immigrate to their countries.
However, I'm sure you are wrong. The anti muslim movement in Europe is just now beginning to take shape. In any case, if Europe allows itself to be dominated by muslims it will remove itself as a viable competitor to America. We will wake up before Europe merely because our abilities haven't been diluted as much as Europe.
Look at the muslim countries of the world and the conclusion must be that Islam makes you one backward assed world. The entire muslim dominated world cannot compete with one modern western nation. They self disolved due to their backward, hatful religion. The only other reason has to be racial inferiority. In any case we win.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 13, 2005 11:50 PM (CBNGy)
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Actually, The entire muslim dominated world cannot compete with one modern western union composed of 50 separate states and the minor islands those have conquered. So its really 50 countries against 20? Muslim dominated countries.
The antimuslim movement? Yeah yeah, neo-fascists marched in Germany on Hitlers birthday, but otherwise I have not heard of many large scale operations other than Britain threatening its people with a possibility of terrorism being targeted against them.
You woke up before Europe because you got attacked, no other reason to it. And ever considered Muslim countries being underdeveloped because they are pretty much 90% desert with no possibility of having a healthy civilization.
Posted by: A Finn at April 14, 2005 03:55 AM (cWMi4)
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The point of the whole matter is not whether or not it is effective. The point is not whether or not the ritual is considered an offer which the dead person can reject (with "thanks"?). The point is that the offer in and of itself is an insult to both the living and the dead.
Since G-d created the world in such a way that we have free will, we will not have our dead relatives posting on these fora and giving their viewpoints. However, even if we can ignore the ignorant, the fact that the organization broke their promise to stop doing this also speaks about them.
Jews believe that everyone has a chance to get into heaven. Mormon's believe that all Jews are burning in hell untill they (the Mormons) put out the fire by "baptising" them posthumously.
Which side again are tribalists?
Just because they think (incorrectly) that they are doing a good deed does not mean that it is so. Actually, what they are trying to do is pull the kedoshim (holy ones - means martyrs in English) out of their eternal reward and get them punished for idolatry. Of course it is ineffective. But that does not mean that the attempt is not insulting.
I regard it as an insult to the memory of the dead. It is like someone shooting a gun loaded with blanks at a school bus full of children thinking that the gun is loaded with live ammunition.
From the viewpoint of the Jew who is being targeted, it is someone claiming that he is now converted to idol worship and therefore subject to the punishment for it. Obviously, it is not the fact that it is unsuccessful that matters, it is the attempt that is insulting, degrading, and not to be borne.
The names were targeted because they are Jews who were murdered during the war. Many of them have descendants who found out about this matter an reacted. Otherwise, the Mormons would have gotten away with this.
Of course, they also do this to others. But, these are my relatives and they were killed because they were Jews. That makes this attempt even worse.
If it does not bother you, then let them target your family. Stay away from mine.
Normally, as an Orthodox Jew, I would stay out of this matter. But the fact is that it should be stopped.
Posted by: Sabba Hillel at April 14, 2005 08:31 AM (fca2G)
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Omar ben Bonin heem. LOL. Spilled by drink on that one. Great.
A FINN: I now understand why other bloggers refer to you as needing some growing up time. If you believe America was ever 50 separate countries you need to go back for some of that Finnish education you tout. It din't work the first time.
Sabba Hillel: Something I have never understood is why so many hate the Jews. Help me out here.
I understand why some hate blacks. I really understand why most hate muslims. I've never understood why all the Jewish hatred. Did you guys do something I don't know about? I mean why was the Germans so pissed at you? Why are the muslems screaming for your death?
Has it just become a popular thing? Like liberals in Academia or Starbucks coffee? Calling people who disagree with moonbats Nazis or KKK. Maybe the killing of Jesus, one of your own? Why? Can any of you Jewish dudes lend a little info here. Something is missing and I don't understand.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 15, 2005 04:40 AM (7480p)
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Baptism for the Dead
I am an actively participating Mormon, a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. I have been enjoying the back and forth comment sections regarding all the brouhaha on baptisms for the dead. I will do my best not to stir up hostilities while at the same time answer some of the misunderstandings that have been attributed to this ordinance.
I read one of the comments that alluded to the Bible and that there was no reference within that particular Canon of Scripture to back up the ordinance of Baptism for the dead. In 1st Corinthians 15:29 there is specific reference, “Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead if the dead rise not…”. This is also a strong acknowledgment of the resurrection and its purpose in the great plan of salvation for all of mankind, to include every soul from Adam until the last to come before the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.
As for the resentment that some members of the Jewish faith have expressed I will offer up a very personal experience. I had the forms filled out so that the ordinance of baptism for the dead along with the ordinance called the endowment for my grandparents on my fatherÂ’s side could be accomplished at the temple. My wife stood in as proxy and did the baptism for my grandmother and I stood in as proxy for my grandfather. The opportunity for them to either accept or reject these proxy ordinances remains their choice. Nothing has been forced upon them. I will explain that both of these people in life were Christian Scientists; but that their lineage was predominantly Jewish from all that I have been able to ascertain. That would mean that I also have the same ancestry.
My Uncle told me that he was of the opinion that I should have gotten his permission to “baptize his parents into the Mormon Faith”, as if I had purposely gone around him. I tried to explain that at no time had there been an attempt to go against his wishes, not knowing my Uncle’s feelings toward such things to begin with. I would have gone ahead with my actions regardless since, as I have explained, there is nothing binding upon those who have passed to the other side, there is nothing worthy of offense and so none should be taken. My Uncle has since stated to me that he had “lost his faith” a long time ago, having been an active member of the Christian Science church at one time. I could not understand his rational for agonizing about ordinances done on behalf of his parents (my grandparents) who clearly were not Jewish; more so, his lack of rational since he was near the point of needing to take something to lower his blood pressure as he exploded his views to me about violating our Jewish ancestors.
One of the comments included a wonderful rational explanation: If the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints IS the one true church that has the authority to act in His name then to have those saving ordinances performed is not only an honor; but is also a necessary action required of each and every soul prior to returning to Father in HeavenÂ’s presence. If, on the other hand the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is not the authorized agent, then those ordinances would have no binding effect; understanding to begin with, there is nothing binding about these ordinances without their having been accepted by those for whom the ordinances were performed.
Here is the example that I attempted to use as a way of explaining how a proxy baptism works, or for that matter the ordinance of the endowment, and then the sealing of a husband to a wife for time and for all eternity as a foundation of an eternal family unit. If any of this information is new to your mind I invite you to contact me or any other “active” member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. I call it:
A free trip home
I left a ticket for you at the desk and all you have to do is show up and tell them your name for that ticket to be valid. The ticket is good for a trip home to see your father who has not seen you in quite some time. If for any reason you do not wish to use the ticket you need not do anything. There is no obligation to you in any way.
If you think you may be interested; but you are reluctant to act on such a “too good to be true” offer, please contact me and I will explain how this was done. This is not a scam.
If I left you such a ticket, how could you be insulted or believe that I had forced anything upon you? You might feel pressured at best, honored or lucky that someone had thought enough of you to have gone out of their way to do something nice for you. Under the possibility that you didnÂ’t like your father then you might not think it such a great gift. All the same, one never knows how a change of heart based on living through a life time of pain or grief might soften hard feelings between a father and a child. When offence is not intended, none should ever be taken.
I again offer an invitation to any who wish to know more about my faith.
T. F. Stern tfstern@houston.rr.com
Posted by: T. F. Stern at April 15, 2005 10:49 PM (dz3wA)
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Wow! This guy is a true believer in his faith. Thinking about it, if all mormons do is sprinkle water on the graves of the dead. What's the problem?
Friggin muslims cut the heads off the living and beat women for not covering themselves.
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I suggest we send the mormons to convert the muslims
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Greyrooster: Stern's explanation has been debunked by biblical scholars--even protestants--since his cult was invented in the 1800's. The phrase found in 1st Corinthians 15:29 of being, 'baptized for the dead' is a much misunderstood and misinterpreted passage. Some groups believe that this passage means that they can baptize their members as proxies on behalf of those that have died unsaved. The Mormon sect in particular teaches that those who are dead can still be Saved if someone who is living is baptized for them. This is a teaching which is debunked with even a cursory study of scripture, for it is evident that no one but Christ has the authority to be a proxy regarding Salvation.
These type teachings have nothing to do with Biblical truth, but because of them there is much confusion among Christians about just what this passage actually means. This can only be cleared up by the careful and diligent study of the Word of God, in it's proper context.
1st Corinthians 15:29
"Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?"
The Greek word 'for' is [huper]. It is a primary preposition and in this context means, 'for the sake of,' or 'for the benefit of' the dead. This is because baptism is the cleansing of the dead by the Spirit of Christ, wherein they are also raised up in His resurrection. Water baptism signifies this Spiritual baptism or cleansing 'for the sake of' the dead.
The context of this verse is one of Christ's payment for our sins by His death, and how by His resurrection thereafter, we are also made alive from the dead. That is the Baptism or cleansing for the dead. The efficacy of His death and resurrection. All shown by the context starting in the very first verses where it is explained as the very gospel message itself.
1st Corinthians 15:1-3
"Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;"
Christ was dead for us, and this is the gospel which Paul Preached, and is what He is telling us in verses 1-3. Water Baptism is a 'signification' of the cleansing by the Spirit (Baptism) for the rising of the dead. What we see here is an illustration that Christians were dead in trespasses and sins, and were baptized by Christ's being made alive by the Spirit. It in no way means that someone can have water poured upon them on behalf of some other person who has died. It speaks of our own baptism in the death and resurrection of Christ, and is illustrating how the dead benefit from that. i.e., baptized for the dead.
All of these things must be understood in context. When Paul asked the rhetorical question of, 'why people were baptized for the dead if the dead are not resurrected,' he was asking that in deference to some people at Corinth who doubted the validity of the resurrection of the dead (verse 12). Just as the sadducees had (Matthew 22:23) some did not believe in the resurrection of the dead, and Paul was speaking of just what this heretical belief would mean, if it were indeed true. His speaking of Baptism for the dead was in support of the doctrine of the resurrection of the dead.
1st Corinthians 15:4
"And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"
Because Christ was dead, and we were baptized in His death, we receive the benefit of that death and resurrection. The point of this chapter is the process of the resurrection, not the baptizing living people for dead ones. And in verses 5-11, God goes on to establish His argument for this resurrection with proofs and witnesses of Christ's own rise from the dead. His point being, if Christ rose from the dead, and Christians know it, how can it be said there is no resurrection? How indeed!
1st Corinthians 15:12
"Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?"
But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:"
If the dead do not rise at all, why then are we baptized in the belief that we were dead in sin, and have risen? If we're not ever going to rise from the dead, why are we baptized that we will be part of the resurrection to life? In other words, this doctrine of no resurrection makes Christ a liar.
John 5:29
"And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation."
John 11:25
"Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:"
Christ taught of the resurrection, and Paul is saying that if that is true that there is no resurrection of the dead, then Christianity makes no sense! The point here being, on the contrary, we are baptized for the resurrection of the dead, because we do know Christ was judged for us, suffered death, and rose from that death that there would be a resurrection unto life.
1st Corinthians 15:14
"And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain."
Again, Paul, under inspiration of God, is setting forth the truth of ChristÂ’s resurrection, and by extension our resurrection in Him that the second death have no power over us. It is the hope of the Gospel, and an illustration that apart from this resurrection, we are lost and our faith is in vain or of no real value. This verse 14 portrays the hopelessness of the believer in Christ 'if' He was not resurrected for the dead and in the process baptized us with fire. If there is no baptism or cleansing for the dead, that would mean:
1st Corinthians 15:15-16
"Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.
For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:"
If there is no resurrection for us, then there was no resurrection of Christ, and the gospel message is without substance. If there is no baptism or cleansing for the dead by Christ's death, then Christians are all a bunch of false witnesses, because this truth is the foundation of the Gospel message we preach. We say, God forbid! There was a baptism for, and a Resurrection of the dead. And it is a fundamental principle of true Christianity, and the heart of the gospel. The very Rock of Christianity is the unbreakable promise to Christians of life beyond death because of Christ. If we were to take this away, then we would take away the very purpose of baptism of the dead, by the Spirit of Christ.
1st Corinthians 15:17-19
"And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.
Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.
If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable."
Again, clear indication of the efficacy of resurrection in taking away our sin. And if Christ was not raised from the dead, then we are still in sin and there is no resurrection to life, and we are found to be foolish, because there is no life after death. All hope is then lost and our faith is worthless. On the other hand, if Christ has died and taken away our sin, and been resurrected the firstfruits of the dead, then our faith is not in vain, and we have been baptized or cleansed for the dead, in Christ. Then does the gospel truth Paul preached stand! By being in Christ when He died and was resurrected, we are baptized (Spiritually cleansed), and also resurrected as He was.
Romans 6:3-4
"Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life."
This is what baptism for the dead illustrates. Our death in Christ's death. Just as the verse above says, we are Baptized into Christ's death and made alive. Resurrected in Him. And verses 20-28 goes on to say how the truth is that because by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead, and now is Christ risen from the dead, and speaks of Christ reigning until all things shall be subdued unto him, and the Son also himself be subject unto Him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all. It is in this context that the next verse reads:
1st Corinthians 15:29
"Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?"
If all this is not true about the resurrection from the dead, and the judgment, and the end of all things, then why are Christians baptized for the dead, when the dead (according to this philosophy) do not rise at all? It would make no sense. But the truth is, we were buried with Him in baptism. i.e., our baptism is for [huper] (for the sake of, or for the benefit of) the dead, that the dead rise because of that Baptism of the Spirit. Once we read this verse in the proper context of the whole chapter, the truth becomes self evident. We are baptized for the sake of the dead, because we were dead in trespass and sin, and needed a resurrection, which baptism gives us. We were dead, and have been raised with Christ in baptism. The baptism is for us, the dead, that in our death with Christ, we are resurrected by that baptism.
Colossians 2:12
"Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead."
We who are buried with Christ in Baptism, declare by that act of God that we believe that He died and was buried for us, and rose again. And we in His baptism. Water baptism merely 'signifies' that One true baptism (ephesians 4:5).
Matthew 3:11
"I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: He shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:"
As Christ went through the fires of Hell suffering death laden with our sins, we died with Him, that likewise we should also be raised up with Him. In other words, we are dead with Him, and we are buried with Him in this Spiritual baptism, wherein we are risen. That is the baptism or cleansing for the dead. That is the context of 1st Corinthians chapter 15. And that is the understanding of this passage and our hope for the resurrection to Life.
We are identified with Christ and have his righteousness imputed to us by being baptized in the Spirit of God. For the sake of the dead, we are made alive in the Spirit.
Conclusion
The problem with interpreting the scriptures is not in the alleged obscure or ambiguous language. God has not inspired confusion, the real problem is in man not this passage. It is man who takes the passages in question out of total context, and then teaches confused and mis-informed doctrines. And he does this because 'he wants to.' Scripture considered honestly, carefully, and in context not only with itself, but with the whole of the Bible, usually presents it's own solutions. And they must be consistent and in agreement with the whole of the Bible. When we ask the fundamental questions, we get the Biblical answers. For example, what is the topic of the Chapter? What is God declaring in His reference to Baptism for the dead? Does the context show us that God is teaching about Baptism of living people for dead people? Does Baptizing a living person save them? If not, then how much less would it Save one who is already dead?
When these questions are answered honestly, it becomes self evident that this passage has nothing to do with the unbiblical practice of Christians being baptized for people who have died, but with baptism as it is the efficacy of the death and resurrection in Christ.
When Paul used the language of being 'baptized for the dead,' he was arguing for the resurrection from the dead by baptism. The context itself shows us that this is the truth, and we must so interpret the passage if we would understand it accurately. The context of the passage is the resurrection, and this interpretation is not only consistent with that context, but speaks specifically to it. On the other hand, if we (like some others) were to conclude that God was teaching that we may be baptized for, or as proxies on behalf the dead persons, then have a twofold problem.
We not only have a doctrine which is nowhere else spoken of in all of scripture, but we force God to introduce an entirely new subject into this context 'with only this one sentence,' and then never speaks of it again anywhere.
We have a doctrine which is contradictory to the rest of the Bible. The Holy Bible declares very unambiguously that it is impossible for one to be Saved without faith in Jesus Christ as Savior. No one after death can be saved by the action of someone who is alive.
The teaching that men can be Saved merely by an act of another man participating in water baptism, is not only unbiblical (John 14:6), it is anti-biblical. It is unreasonable to draw such conclusions about this text, based on the scripture alone (Sola Scriptura), therefore this doctrine is obviously born from the mind of men, and not of God.
This passage is simply another illustration of the well established doctrine of baptism of the Spirit, and all that this entails. In baptism, the Christian is risen from the dead. For this is the purpose, and the hope of the resurrection (Rom. 6:3-6) which the sacrament of water baptism signifies. We are baptized for the sake of the dead, that in that baptism, the dead are made alive. That's why Paul said, else if the dead don't rise (resurrection), why be baptized for the dead? Since our baptism is for the resurrection of the dead. Then our baptism means nothing if the dead do not really rise.
This is the Glorious truth that Christ did not die in vain, He died that we could die in him, and be risen with Him, that death would have no more power over us. This is the benefit of baptism for the dead. The old body must be put to death, buried, and resurrected to new life. This is the Biblical definition of being 'baptized for the dead.' This passage I believe is Paul illustrating to the Church just why we are baptized into Christ. And that reason is that we receive life everlasting through His death and resurrection.
As I've said before, Christ founded a Church when He was on earth. It would have a visible head. Who is the visible head of the Mormon church? Mormonism, along with its MANY doctrinal problems, just comes 1800-plus years too late.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 18, 2005 02:49 PM (x+5JB)
Rusty loves me, this I know, because his blog tells me so!
The Jawa link philosophy:
"For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened." --Matt 7:8
-Liberal T-Shirt asks Tom Delay to committ suicide. Offensive and funny.
-John Kerry outs CIA agent. Dumbass. More.
-Carnival of the Revolutions is up. Awesome!
-Germans love David Hasselhoff, hate George Bush, and could go either way for Vladimir Putin.
-The great blogger billboard scam. Funny.
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April 11, 2005
Another South Park Republican Gets a Blog
My good friend Dr. Leopold Stotch has now moved the island of mu.nu. Welcome aboard Butters Chaos!
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Eek, why's he running a Movable Type version that's 2 years old? Or better: why's he running Movable Type?
Posted by: Mark J at April 11, 2005 06:24 PM (t7SV2)
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what is mu.nu anyway??
Posted by: Mr. K at April 11, 2005 06:37 PM (22x5h)
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Where the hell was my caption contest. AGAIN?!?!?
Posted by: Eric at April 12, 2005 01:23 AM (lK7Sh)
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Happen to know any mu.nu somewhere in the middle or only slighty right/left with possibility to freely comment like here?
(Yes, commenting sort of leftie here is more exciting and creates a bigger response, but must investigate and get to places with more of a neutral point of view to find opinions from the leftie and central sides(why?...for fun))
Posted by: A Finn at April 12, 2005 03:38 AM (lGolT)
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Are you are doing that because there is nothing else to do in Finland and you are too young to drown yourself in Vodka like the rest of your countrymen?
Posted by: Mr. K at April 12, 2005 03:45 AM (22x5h)
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Mark,
All of us share an MT install. We have the latest version but migrating en masse is going to be a mess.
Mu.nu is just a domain that Pixie Misa shares with us. He's good people like that.
Finn...hmmm, don't know off hand.....
Eric, sorry man. I got busy Saturday. I was in Memphis on business.
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Mr K.: Can't think of any better, legal use for the fast internet connection, now that I've gotten bored of Runescape, and P2P-sharing (not downloading yet) became (becomes May 1st) illegal in here (Finland, not whole EU).
And I could easily drown myself in vodka already, but wandering around town drunk in mud and melting, dirty snow (in 24 hours/day sunshine) doesn't seem too tempting, and getting drunk at home is no fun at all. And I think strong berry (cloudberry is a good one) wines are better for heavy drinking than Koskenkorva(usually no hangover, and a gallon won't get you in a hospital, so you can drink a gut-full).
Posted by: A Finn at April 12, 2005 12:18 PM (lGolT)
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Sidenote. My father-in-law speaks Finnish. Yeah, he's one of three foreigners who speak it.
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 12, 2005 03:30 PM (JQjhA)
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Hehe. Tell him, that Tarjoan oluet jos satut käymään Suomessa.
Posted by: A Finn at April 13, 2005 01:50 AM (cWMi4)
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There should be some Finno-Americans in Delaware, any idea if they can speak Finnish or not? Since there is a debate going on in Eduskunta, about whether or not Americans with Finnish roots should be allowed to move back to Finland.
This far the criteria for allowing the offspring a possibility to return has been being able to speak Finnish. Now that the applications from US have quadrupled to slightly over 2 million per year in the last 10 years, there is a question whether or not they should be allowed to move back automatically or if their applications should just be ignored like they have been for some years.
Posted by: A Finn at April 13, 2005 04:15 AM (cWMi4)
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Now, now Finn. Anymore of that and its back to A FIN. Two million a year?? Really.
Finn: What do you mean for fun. You're already funny.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 16, 2005 03:04 PM (DAWnL)
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A FINN: Sorry about the weather and mud. Myself, I'm in the house because it's too hot to drive the tractor. Going to plant corn as soon as it begins to cool.
Heat bothers me. Quess its my Norweigan/Swede roots.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 16, 2005 03:08 PM (DAWnL)
Weekend Update, with Rusty Shackleford
Had a long weekend. Spent all day Saturday in Memphis. My first time in TN. It was one of those travel-in/travel-out on the same day deals. Can any one in Memphis tell me what the deal is with the pyramid?
Anyway, that's why there was no blogging over the weekend. Here are some interesting links people sent me Friday evening - Monday early morning. Check them out:
65+ terrorists nabbed. Excellent.
NY Times reporting success in Iraq? Long overdue.
More on reporter detained in Iraq. and another one. He was detained because he posed an imperative threat to coalition forces. Now, about al Jazeera....
More on Pulitzer Prize photos. They just don't make 'em like they used to.
Democratic memes. Funny and true.
Chick poses as Air Force Captain, defrauds university. That's a fact Jack!
Dude buys billboard looking to score hot chicks. D'oh!
Bush To Spotted Owls: Bring it On
College Prof. apologizes for Ward Churchill, gets fisked.
Marburg Virus: More Deadly Than Anticipated - Deaths Likely Double Reported Number Calling Dustin Hoffman!
The Jawa Report dropped from Google News for 'hate speech', BNN picked up. Congrats. Just don't say anything 'offensive' like, you know, we ought to win the war on terror.....
Wow, an entire blog devoted to the defense of Joe McCarthy!! Kewl.
The Schiavo Legacy. Paul asks, I give.
UPDATE: And here are some unsolicited stories I missed over the weekend.
Someone Forgot To Tell These Iraqis About The QUAGMIRE™!
Arab News continues to shock me. This time they publish an article by my friend Jane Novak, and as far as I can tell, it's not censored!!
Happy Blogoversary to Gordon the Cranky Neocon!
Humor: CBS to Give CIA tips on infiltrating enemy groups.
Happy Blogoversary Kevin Aylward!
Big Trouble in Little Washington, again.
Interesting, if not a little difficult to follow. Yoel Natan fisks the Palestinian prediction that Koran says U.S. to end.
Pet Peeves and some good advice for new bloggers.
The goods on Dr. Robert Pastor.
News about Canada that I like.
John Bolton's mustache is so, you know, gay....
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Memphis is named after another city that is on a large river. That city happens to be in Egypt along the Nile, so, we ended up with a basketball stadium shaped like a pyramid. I've heard that the Great Pyramid of Giza is larger, it holds 85,000 people.
Posted by: Brass at April 11, 2005 08:41 AM (6TLEO)
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Ah, but it looks so out of place and weird. There is a similar pyramid in Vegas, some hotel, and it kind of works there...but not in TN!
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 11, 2005 08:46 AM (JQjhA)
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Thanks for the link.
Posted by: Buckley F. Williams at April 11, 2005 08:47 AM (O2fD/)
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Massive Iraqi “end the occupation” rally dwarfs the staged toppling of Saddam’s statue rally.
http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=5723
Posted by: greg at April 11, 2005 08:48 AM (/+dAV)
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George W. Bush's lunatic Iraq policy should be roundly criticized by even more journalists. There have been enough curveball cheerleaders raving for war and bloodshed already. Every photo that shows the unadulterated reality of the heinous nature of war provides strong dissonance for the otherwise spellbound followers of the Bushian War Cult.
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 11, 2005 08:57 AM (fufbw)
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I was in Memphis for the first time last fall and thought the pyramid was pretty weird, too.
Posted by: Robert the Llama Butcher at April 11, 2005 08:57 AM (XBUdh)
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On this site many allege that there is something inherently wrong with Islam as a religion. “Our God is bigger than your God” it has been said.
G W Bush claims to be guided by God and to be a great Christian. JPII counseled GW against the war at least twice and Bush didnÂ’t listen.
On Friday, the largest Christian denomination by far, the Catholics, mourned and buried their Saintly leader JPII. Millions of Catholic pilgrims went to pay their last respects. And when they saw George W. Bush they Booed him. And if you listened closely you could here them telling George Bush – “Our God is Bigger than Your God!”
Posted by: greg at April 11, 2005 09:03 AM (/+dAV)
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Greg---*snooze*
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 11, 2005 10:04 AM (JQjhA)
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Snooze is right. This place is a morgue.
Posted by: greg at April 11, 2005 10:34 AM (/+dAV)
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I've never been to Memphis, but I did watch "The Memphis Belle" once. Does that count for something?
Posted by: Brian B at April 11, 2005 10:46 AM (CouWh)
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I dunno. Was it a porno?
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 11, 2005 11:11 AM (JQjhA)
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Again Rusty is the master of relevant links. Thanks for doing my surfing for me.
Posted by: Howie at April 11, 2005 11:33 AM (D3+20)
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Rusty: You've got the pyramid. A sports complex. Then you've got Beale street. Other than that forget it. Head a few miles south to Tunica, Mississippi. Then its party time. Mississippi rules. The most ropes per density of any state. Come on down and hang around.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 11, 2005 10:29 PM (CBNGy)
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Rusty:
Brass is correct as to the reasons why. You are correct in that in don't fit.
Glad you mentioned the Pyramid in Vegas. My little company worked on the design and inspection phase of the Inclinevators. A combination of elevator and escalator. Works to. Ride it next time you are in Vegas. A different feel. Great view from up top. Designed by an ignorant racist. With the help of some chinese and ragheads on my payroll. I slapped them around a lot. You know. Have to keep up my image and those minority set aside dollars flowing in.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 11, 2005 10:41 PM (CBNGy)
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Thanks for the link. Not only did they not censor it but they put in "Muslim state" once where I had "Bangladesh." I wasn't sure it would go , not only because of the obvious comparisons to governement enabled Islamic extremeism in the two countries. But also because in this one I named names and the Society of the Revival of Islamic Heritage is based in SA and Kuwait. So I agree, good on them.
Posted by: Jane at April 12, 2005 07:15 AM (6krEN)
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Hey thx for the link on the "TSA Stupidity."
Ron
www.hspig.org.
Posted by: RON WRIGHT at April 12, 2005 02:26 PM (wIdaE)
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The Pyramid you saw is "The Pyramid Arena".
Posted by: George Turner at April 12, 2005 07:45 PM (5APNt)
April 08, 2005
Elizabethan Curse Generator Goes After Wonkette!!!
Elizabethan Curse Generator here, via Bill's Comments.
Thou surly dog-hearted coxcomb!
Thou mangled iron-witted malkin!
Thou puny onion-eyed bum-bailey!
Thou waggish crook-pated wagtail!
Thou infectious sour-faced flirt-gill!
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It looks like it's going after Michelle Malkin (line 2) also.
Not as bad as her usual hatemail, though.
Posted by: The Colossus at April 08, 2005 02:52 PM (Ru8KL)
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Yeah, I picked that one out for the very reason. It's one thing to be called an 'ass-sex obsessed bitch' but I bet she gets really pissed being called a 'malkin'
PS-what is a 'malkin'?
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"malkin" is Brit slang for "slut". Really.
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at April 09, 2005 01:13 AM (RHG+K)
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From Dictionary.com, it looks like a Malkin was originally a housemaid, but came to mean "slattern." It also evidently is a mop.
Posted by: Beck at April 09, 2005 10:09 AM (ZyH0M)
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what does dog-hearted and crutch mean?
Posted by: what does dog-hearted and crutch mean? at May 08, 2005 04:38 PM (J5aZi)
Gay Outing: The New Black
*Hide the kleenex! Greg Beato, Wonkette's gay-bitch intern goes after Malkin. Trust me, no three ways for this guy!!
Two questions you might be wondering.
1) How do you know Mr. Beato is gay? COME ON! BEATO!! THE NAME SCREAMS HAND JOB.
2) How can a guy be Anna Marie Cox's bitch? Two words: STRAP ON!!!!!
UPDATE: ***Must Cite Jawa Report****
A very married Wonkette seen with a very single Ben Affleck.
Jawa readers dying to know if Ben asked for sex in an uncomfortable place? How big? Cut?
Developing..... more...
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In Court
This morning I received a call from Mr. Glenn Harlan Reynolds' lawyer claiming copyright infringement. Posting will be light.
more...
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Hey Glenn: it's called a parody, you pathetic douchebag. Why don't you go call your mom and whine about it some more?
Posted by: Just Another Law Student at April 08, 2005 10:11 AM (HCLCN)
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Even though I have never seen Rusty Shackleford, I would bet a substantial sum that his eyes are brown, because of this post.
Posted by: Mr. K at April 08, 2005 11:38 AM (6vcEq)
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Mr. K, what? Law Student, read to the end....
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 08, 2005 01:31 PM (JQjhA)
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Options:
1. Rusty forgot that 01 APR was last week.
2. Rusty has run out of ideas.
3. Rusty was invited to a wedding with an open bar and found a lame excuse not to post.
I don't buy this "work" thing. Next excuse will be that Mrs. Shackleford (or equivalent) is complaining that he is spending too much time on the computer....wait.....that's my excuse.
Otherwise, I am 4 hrs from my first Black and Tan.
Posted by: CDR Salamander at April 08, 2005 01:31 PM (PJ4Iq)
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My dad you used to say to me, you are so full of shit, your eyes are brown...
Posted by: Mr. K at April 08, 2005 02:19 PM (A6WZC)
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Ah. Hey, if I don't do posts like this then blogging no longer is fun.
Posted by: Rusty at April 08, 2005 04:25 PM (ywZa8)
April 07, 2005
Glenn Reynolds Quits TCS!
Glenn Reynolds' farewell TCS piece. Scandalous!
UPDATE: Don't tell the Alliance.
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Its' Ok to quit.
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 08, 2005 12:06 AM (FV4oJ)
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Suddenly I am reminded of the CNN.com "article" claiming that oral sex reduce the risk of cancer. Honestly Rusty you are just BEGGING for instapundit readers to come here like the Atrios peeps did the last time you impersonated someone. Either you like their company or you are really really jealous of Reynold's blogads revenue/traffic.
Posted by: Jim at April 08, 2005 12:12 AM (jcSwY)
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Why not also extend the quitting option to the troops over in Iraq who don't want to be there?
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 08, 2005 12:26 AM (FV4oJ)
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Absolutely scandalous.
Posted by: The Babaganoosh at April 08, 2005 09:31 AM (2Sfuq)
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Heh. Indeed.
Posted by: Joe Mama at April 08, 2005 09:41 AM (l4adY)
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Collin, you are an ass. Take your Stalin loving, weed smoking, hemp supporting, Spin Doctor listening,sandal wearing, pimpled ass over to the moveon.org site where you belong.
Everytime I see your name I think of Bean pies and pan flutes. F-off now. Be a good liberal and get a blistering case of aids and blame someone else for your own debauched activities.
Posted by: Obsnooks at April 08, 2005 09:51 AM (yBHNA)
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Obsnooks needs a doobie. Might help with that pent up anger. If you prefer a drink maybe. Might I suggest rum / valium coctail. No beer or whiskey for you sir please. Oh yeah I know. I'm an ass.
Posted by: Howie at April 08, 2005 11:24 AM (D3+20)
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I guess the way you might describe my vendetta against Glenn can be summed up by 'sour grapes'..........
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 08, 2005 12:59 PM (JQjhA)
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It always comes back to protester babes in the end...
Posted by: Mark Coffey at April 08, 2005 03:48 PM (eOuht)
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Dear Obsnooks,
Your projections are quite fascinating.
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 08, 2005 07:39 PM (fufbw)
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This sounds a little dirty to me.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 12, 2005 08:59 AM (x+5JB)
Jawalanche
Here are some things I'm reading right now. It's like The Puppy Blender, only we do in one post what it takes him to do in 20!
-More. Dead. Terrorists.
-Tiny little spy planes. No word from Islamic Army in Iraq on tiny little RPG. (via Blogs of War)
-Jurors picked for trial of Islamist traitor in U.S. military. Texas justice, please.
-First the Pulitzers, and now the Peabodys. Not surprising.
-Art Buchwald. Idito.
-U.N. Corruption. Can you use those two words in the same sentence?
-Government sponsored Enron not getting headlines. *shocked*
-Bill Clinton for SC? *Chortle* Right. (via Jeff)
-Commissar is right on the Schiavo meme.
-Government acting like the mafia. Or, why Rusty is a domestic libertarian.
-Gun meet criminal. Nice.
-Sheriff gets tasered on live TV. Beavis moment.
-Another Terri Schiavo?
-La Shawn on MSNBC, while Joyner tells me he's been cancelled. I'm available!
-Jenna Bush bumping and grinding. Please send video!
-Star Wars nerds line up in front of wrong theatre. This explains why the light posting.......
-Domines to charge for delievery? Say it isn't so! (I was a driver for Dominos in college)
-Glenn Reynolds interviews John from Wuzzadem. (via Itsapundit)
-Censorship of the bad kind. Dumbass.
-Blogger smackdown! or troll smackdown. I just love a good fight.
-Support single mothers, visit a strip club. (via Beth)
-Welcome to the strange and growing superpower that is mu.nu.
-Hot. Young. Coeds. I've no idea what Stotch means.
-You live in a zoo....photos.
-Excuse me while I whip this out. Dumbasses.
-EU's "Little USSR", France. Heh.
-Ace is back. Long live Ace.
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to say UN wihout corrupt would be to mislead, if not lie.
Posted by: Rod Stanton at April 07, 2005 12:17 PM (GQcHQ)
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Thanks for the link!
Posted by: caltechgirl at April 07, 2005 12:34 PM (5VQpT)
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I really got a kick out of the Bill Clinton for Supreme Court scenario. The Village Voice has quite the ability to stretch the truth. I live in Texas and have seen the stories and I can assure you that Perry and Hutchison do not "deliberately point out how they have worked with Hillary". In reality, they are blaming the other for cozying up to Hillary in an effort to jockey for position for Texas governor. The thought of any Republican cozying up to Hillary is laughable. Then again, we are talking about a publication that is taken less seriously than the National Enquirer.
Posted by: slug at April 07, 2005 12:46 PM (x7dIN)
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Jawalanches Rock!
Posted by: phin at April 07, 2005 01:41 PM (Xvpen)
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Many thanks, Blogfather. (kisses pinky ring)
Posted by: Eric at April 07, 2005 02:10 PM (lK7Sh)
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Slug: You are'nt going to vote for Kinky Friedman?
Posted by: greyrooster at April 07, 2005 06:13 PM (CBNGy)
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I live in Texas too and Slug is quite correct.
In fact Perry recently sent a TV crew to film an event attended by both Hillary and Kay. At one point the two female Senators gave each other a hug and a pat on the back. Perry has been showing this clip in an attempt to smear Kay. I guess it is inexcusable to be civil to Hillary in the most acute corner of the right wing.
What a bunch of sickos!
Posted by: greg at April 08, 2005 08:32 AM (/+dAV)
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I'm going to vote for Kinky Friedman!
And guess what Rooster, he's a Jew!
Posted by: greg at April 08, 2005 08:34 AM (/+dAV)
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OH BOY Greg: You really surprised me with that one. Kinky Jewish?Wow. I had no idea. Gee whiz. Will wonders never cease. You really let the secret out. Boy, he's in trouble now. No one would have never guessed. I wonder if that's why he refers to himself as a Jewish cowboy? Friedman? A Jewish name? The cats out of the bag now. Wonder if you are the only person in the world who knows?
Typical liberal moonbat exclamation. Gee, he's Jewish. Therefore the Greyrooster must think that is horrible. I mean Greyrooster says he likes white people. That must mean he dislikes Jews?????????????????????????????
Ever drank a beer with him? I have. Several.
You don't know a thing about hunting either. Duh! "The best way to hunt deer is in a treestand". Call that hunting? I guess a liberal would. Hide in a box with a hole in it and shoot a deer thats been fed beneath it for the last month. A true sportsman.
Yea sure! Try it in a Mississippi or Alabama thicket where you can only see twenty yards. " A shotguns not the best weapon to use". Every dummy knows that a rifled bullet can't keep its trajectory though leaves and twigs. A shotgun slug isn't affected in the same situation.
Another broad sweeping statement without consideration for where and when and why.
A moonbat thing. Friggin know it all that knows nothing.
Some years I get as many as 30 deer without having to hide in a box. I hunt. Not pretend to.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 10, 2005 02:58 AM (CBNGy)
April 06, 2005
Editor and Publisher Apologizes for Terrorist Embeds *shock*
Editor and Publisher ought to be renamed, Apologist and Collaborater. Hey, and next time you mention my blog why not drop a link for all that is sacred and holy! You'd think your site wasn't html enabled......
And, as if on cue, you organize your story in such a way as to 1) set up claims of bias in the Pulitzer, in this case we are not talking about partisan bias but anti-American bias--a serious accusation 2) then refute those claims. Nice job.
Does the entire Associated Press corp pay you to kiss their asses or does your tongue just naturally like the brown eye?
And if the Pulitzer really shows war 'as it is', which is a terribly stupid claim given the limitations of space in any publication which inevitably leads to certain photos being picked which tell certain parts of the story and leaving out other photos which tell other parts of the war story, then why were not images of American victories shown or that of Americans happily getting along with children in the street? Or is that part of the war 'as it is' not worthy of the lauds of fellow journalists?
Our objections are not about the war photojournalists and the brave work they do. It is with the hiring of stringers such as Bilal Hussein who is comfortable enough with Abu Musab al Zarqawi's al Qaeda in Iraq or Sheik Abdullah al-Janabi's Mujahidin Shura Council of Fallujah that he can get up close and personal for some nice staged photos.
Our other objection is to the photos selected as worthy of the Pulitzer. Is the Associated Press an American organization or not? Cause, I was kind of under the impression that America was sort of in this little thing called a SHOOTING WAR!
Ernie Pyle is rolling over in his grave, right about now. I wonder if he ever got that up close and personal interview with the Waffen SS he always wanted to do? You know, to show their side of the story. Cause, you know, they had families too. And kids. And flower gardens. And kitties......
Please see these posts for clarification:
The Pulitzer and Terrorist Embeds
Pulitzer Prize Given to Terrorists
Thanks to TR at Exposing the Left for e-mailing me the article.
PS-Bunch, you're an idiot.
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Journalists are there to capture imagery and interview. How they get it is their prerogative.
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 06, 2005 06:25 PM (FV4oJ)
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A completely and outrageously false statement Collin. Being an accessory to a terrorist attack is not merely illegitimate - its a crime.
Posted by: Robin Roberts at April 06, 2005 07:16 PM (xauGB)
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Me no like bad people too.
Posted by: actus at April 06, 2005 08:05 PM (EQbuu)
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Dear Beth and Robin,
It is m heartfelt desire to see Mr. Zarqawi stand trial and be convicted. Photos are evidence that will be used in his upcoming trial. He must receive the maximum penalty for his heinous acts.
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 06, 2005 09:56 PM (FV4oJ)
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Thank you Beth. Well and truly said. I'm beginning to believe this idiot is a paid commie.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 06, 2005 11:39 PM (CBNGy)
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Dear Greyrooster,
Are you a paid communist?
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 06, 2005 11:53 PM (FV4oJ)
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Those are unmodified photos and there's no changing that. Fact, though, is that the media, most of it, is a large organization of whores, and a somewhat effective means for Insurgents to demoralize their enemy = US.
The Chinese, now those guys are fucking smart as shit, because they've got the State-Controlled media, so when they go after Taiwan (or, Godforbid, get into WWIII with us) they won't have their press stabbing them in the back. Now, I'm not saying it should be unconstitutional for the press to demoralize the whole effort, because it isn't. I'm just saying some people are smarter than us. They just might even kick our ass ultimately that way, even if we do win all the battles.
What fun.
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"It is m heartfelt desire to see Mr. Zarqawi stand trial and be convicted."
This is the liberal view of the WOT, that it is a law enforcement problem. It's a war! It is my heartfelt desire to see "Mr." Zarqawi riddled with bullets.
Posted by: nobody important at April 07, 2005 07:53 AM (SHPL6)
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Beth & Nobody Important---My sentiments exactly
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 07, 2005 08:17 AM (JQjhA)
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One could argue the reporters who are "embedded with the enemy" are doing a service to America. The photographs they take of the enemy in action provide invaluable information for American intelligence agents to analyze - methodology, numbers, weaponry, possible location etc.
My guess is that American generals consider such photos a windfall rather than a nusance.
If I were an insurgent I would not want my picture taken.
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You might argue that Greg. That would require, though, a sense of nationalism in the reporters in question. Further, it would require that the reporters saw our side of the conflict as 'the good guys'.
As long as reporters see themselves as neutral observers (which they are not) they will continue to spread terrorist propaganda. These reporters have in the past and continue to refuse to cooperate with the coalition in finding the enemies of the U.S.
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 07, 2005 10:46 AM (JQjhA)
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Collin: "Are you a paid communist?"
What did you mean by that? Just curious.
Posted by: Carlos at April 07, 2005 10:49 AM (8e/V4)
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"As long as reporters see themselves as neutral observers (which they are not) they will continue to spread terrorist propaganda."
maybe they could just host it on their websites.
Posted by: actus at April 07, 2005 11:22 AM (Eg4/w)
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I'm with nobody important. Zarqawi's trial should/must be held in the field by those who find him. This will avoid the beheading of innocents while Zarqawi's dogs are attempting to trade for him.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 07, 2005 12:07 PM (CBNGy)
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We are supposedly in a war. But when the enemy fights back they're called terrorists. Doesn't make much sense to me. What should the enemy do, hurl kisses. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
Posted by: greg at April 07, 2005 02:18 PM (/+dAV)
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One man's "evil, hegemonic empire" is another man's greatest country in the world, defender of human rights and liberty, a shining beacon of hope to mankind, a liberator of enslaved millions.
Which man are you?
Posted by: nobody important at April 07, 2005 04:35 PM (SHPL6)
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Whose freedom is Zarqawi fighting for? Whose freedom is Bin Laden fighting for? Whose freedom was Saddam, Uday and Qusay fighting for?
Posted by: nobody important at April 07, 2005 04:37 PM (SHPL6)
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Let's say you hated our president. Imagine that John Kerry won the election. And then we are attacked with foreign troops on our land. Wouldn't you fight the invaders even though you hated the president? Of course you would.
Posted by: greg at April 07, 2005 04:46 PM (/+dAV)
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>>>"Wouldn't you fight the invaders even though you hated the president? Of course you would."
Of course I would not. Not if these invaders liberated us from some dictator and then allowed democracy to flourish and supported it.
In that case, I would help them stabilize my country, and I would fight the terrorists posing as patriots. That way the liberators could leave earlier.
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Dear Carlos,
Greyrooster's statement at 11:39 is strange, just like the quotes he keeps attributing to me. He still hasn't provided the Fallujah quote URL that we both asked for.
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 07, 2005 06:29 PM (FV4oJ)
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For the record Collin, I welcome dissenters like you on this blog. How else am I going to turn you into a rightwinger.
Posted by: Carlos at April 07, 2005 06:50 PM (8e/V4)
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Dear Carlos,
Thank you.
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 07, 2005 08:15 PM (FV4oJ)
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"That way the liberators could leave earlier."
We've never left a country we've invaded except for the odd cases of Vietnam, Lebanon and Somalia where we got an ass woopin'. When "liberators" stay for ever they are "occupiers".
We're never going to leave Iraq. We're building permanent bases there so we can use it as a launch point to invade other muslim countries.
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"You might argue that Greg. That would require, though, a sense of nationalism in the reporters in question. "
Rusty, There's no requirement for nationalism. We receive and make use of intelligence from foreign agents who have no nationalistic feelings toward America. When there is an opportunity to get important intelligence it doesn't matter if it''s from the bad guys or the good guys.
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Greg, I have to disagree with you to a point. Any citizen of an invaded country does have the right to take up arms in protest. As long as they target our troops, and any other official military target is okay. That is guerilla warfare. But to go out and capture civilian contracts and reporters, that is terrorism. That is what Zarqawi is doing.
""But I am shock that most of you would want Zarqawi to be outright killed. If that happen, all the national networks and state and federal judges could go bankrupt. They would not get to show 500 days of trails and appeals. This does not even mention the 3 different made for TV movies we would not have. Shame on you all.""
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Butch
" I have to disagree with you to a point. Any citizen of an invaded country does have the right to take up arms in protest. As long as they target our troops, and any other official military target is okay."
I don't know Butch. Take the Palestinians. They're just too weak to go after the military targets. You''ve seen the footage - throwing stones at a TANK, come on. They really haven't many options. People talk about fighting fair - no scratching, no biting or pulling hair. But, when the victim is much weaker than their oppressor what options do they have? Should a rape victim be scorned for poking her rapist in the eye? Of course not, she's acting with virtue. And when the weak fight back it's really a thing of beauty.. I makes me proud to be a human knowing that the human spirit is so resilient.
Posted by: greg at April 08, 2005 03:43 PM (/+dAV)
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Greg, It makes no different how strong or weak you are. It depends on the target you select. A bunch of rag heads can easily grab a lone soldier. With as many AK47Â’s the Middle East has, I canÂ’t believe anyone is unarm over there. To me, when a group targets
military or government targets, that group is saying we hate your policies. But when they start targeting civilians, the group is then saying we hate your people. It is okay for a group to hate a policy; policies can change. Hating a group of people is a different matter.
Every military is suppose to be trained to protect themself. Civilians do not always have that luxury.
Posted by: Butch at April 08, 2005 04:00 PM (Gqhi9)
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"Greg, It makes no different how strong or weak you are. It depends on the target you select"
Butch,
by your logic a rape victim should just lay there and "enjoy" it if she can't fight back without being a dirty fighter. You go after the targets that are available. And when you're the weaker party there are limitations to what you can hit.
Posted by: greg at April 08, 2005 04:18 PM (/+dAV)
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How many innocents have the insurgents killed? Estimates of innocent Iraqis killed by Americans range from 20,000 to 150,000. The truth lies somewhere in the middle. Isn't America also guilty of "terrorism"?
Posted by: greg at April 08, 2005 04:26 PM (/+dAV)
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Greg,
For one thing, there is no real comparison between rape and what I call guerilla warfare. Rape is a crime and the victim should use ever means possible to kill the sicko
trying to do it.
What I am saying is that terrorism is a crime because they are intentionally attacking
civilian targets. Guerilla warfare is where you have a small outmatch group that still attacks an occupying force. They attack legitimate targets that they feel the can harm and get away. Also the difference between the US troops killing civilians and the terrorist, is that we were not aiming for the civilians. These were unfortunate individuals that were in the wrong place.
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April 05, 2005
Jawapalooza Coming to Washington, D.C.
Your chance to meet the Rusty Shackleford will be soon if you live in and around our Washington, D.C. I will be there from May 14th to the 22nd. If you'd like to get together for a little shin-dig, some drinks, food, laughs, and maybe see the new Star Wars drop me a line at mypetjawa-at-gmail-dot-com.
Pimps and hoes, all invited!
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Will Hank Hill be coming with you to D.C.?
Posted by: Joefish at April 05, 2005 05:38 PM (VmwQb)
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No, but I Boomhauer already lives there......
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 05, 2005 06:01 PM (JQjhA)
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More rightie bloggers need to come to the D.C. area.
I'll probably end up meeting you on accident.
Posted by: The Babaganoosh at April 05, 2005 06:55 PM (2Sfuq)
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I'll be the guy with the Skoal hat.
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 05, 2005 08:49 PM (ywZa8)
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OK,Rusty,you're BUSTED! Of course, this is your commie liberal dyke slut dc raver friend, BABS. Felix da Housecat is @ Cubik on 4/15. Let's get smashed in mourning for tax day
Posted by: Babs at April 05, 2005 11:31 PM (w5MCq)
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let me know if you ever get into God's country, land of the new national champs, land of NASCAR, and mighty banks...I may spring for a beer or three.
Posted by: Mr. K at April 06, 2005 05:53 AM (IseOd)
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Pimps AND hoes invited? Man, I am so there!
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Mr. K: Will be heading for Boxwood Va. (Martinsville) in a few weeks. Hooters in Charlotte always one of our stops as they have room for motorcoach parking.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 06, 2005 05:58 PM (CBNGy)
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Mr.K. On the way back we hit Asheville on the way to Gatlingburg, Tenn. with a stop in Pigeon Forge. If you're on the route will be glad to tip a few with you. Warning! One crazy bunch of very large rednecks/cajuns.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 06, 2005 06:02 PM (CBNGy)
Scott Baio Thread
The people have spoken. We aims to please.
The people have spoken. We aims to please.UPDATE: AS A CITIZEN JOURNALIST I DEMAND A SCOTT BAIO INTERVIEW!
Heh.
UPDATE II: What does Oliver Willis have that Scott Baio doesn't have. I mean, except for this? Or this. Or this. And then there's this. Oh and don't forget that.
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Oh, God, NO!!!
Posted by: Brad at April 05, 2005 04:24 PM (NzgK/)
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Filthy: The populace is now on to the many talents of the thespian Scott Baio. I am therefore forced to reconsider our negotians regarding the trade of my fourth-class Scott Baio relic.
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Ohhhhhhhh.... (wackwackwackwackwackwack)
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Rusty(gasp).......drool....(pant)....(gulp)
Thanks Dude.
Posted by: Happy FIlthy Allah at April 05, 2005 07:16 PM (37sN1)
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HFA,
Since your wishes carried out on this blog, any chance you can get a jones on for Terri Hatcher?
Posted by: Brad at April 05, 2005 07:21 PM (NzgK/)
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Yeah, Terri. Freakin. Hatcher.
Just don't tell me she's a Demecrat and your wish is my command!
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 05, 2005 08:52 PM (ywZa8)
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I have had the pleasure of meeting Ms. Hatcher. She lives in Lonton Terrace on 23rd and 9th.
whack whack whack whack whack oHHHHHHHHHHH SCOTT BAIO FORGIVE MEEEEEE GOOOOOOOP!
Posted by: Filthy Allah at April 05, 2005 09:23 PM (37sN1)
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Ok filthy. How about you doing that special thing in your pants at home?
As for me, I can think of many non-homo-erotic reasons to worship at the feet of Baio. I mean, the dude gets chicks!
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 05, 2005 09:27 PM (ywZa8)
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MY EYES.....IT BURNS.....MY EYES!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Merri at April 05, 2005 09:47 PM (lK7Sh)
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Filthy: As I stated, the original bargain is null and void. I am upping the ante for the 4th-class relic of the great thespian Scott Baio. Imagine the cloning possibilities with the DNA obtained from this tissue, which has been preserved in a climate-controlled safe since 1982. That's right--CLONING. Imagine a whole harem of Scott Baios, eager to do your depraved and perverse bidding.
The ball is in your sandy court, Offendi.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 06, 2005 08:26 AM (x+5JB)
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And may the spirit of the Great Fonze be with you.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 06, 2005 08:28 AM (x+5JB)
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Filthy is the biggest Fag in the world.. He wishes he was Joanie so he could get Chachied up the ass. You're out of your league Filthy, stick (it) to Obsnooks.
Posted by: greg at April 06, 2005 03:27 PM (/+dAV)
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Rusty,
Filthy called out your name while he was cumming.
"Rusty(gasp).......drool....(pant)....(gulp)
Thanks Dude."
If I were you I take a long shower and scrub until I started bleeding just to get his "filth" off.
I bet if you shined a blacklight at his keyboard it would blind you with all the glowing crusty gooop that must be on there.
Posted by: greg at April 06, 2005 03:34 PM (/+dAV)
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WOW GREG. You really do hate gay people. I thought you degenerate libs were inclusive but, i guess it is "do what i say" and "not what i do" with you nasty hate filled buggers.
I support Filthy Allah and his love of Scott Baio and I support his freedom to do so which, you seem not to.
Greg- Take your hate somewhere else cause, weees not buyin.
Posted by: obsnooks at April 06, 2005 04:01 PM (37sN1)
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"I support Filthy Allah and his love of Scott Baio"-Obsnooks
Hey I support you two also. I hope you're very happy together. The devil is in the details though.
Posted by: greg at April 06, 2005 04:26 PM (/+dAV)
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The great thespian Scott Baio would not approve of all this dissention on this post devoted to him.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 07, 2005 08:24 AM (x+5JB)
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Scott Biao is a lesbian? I didn''t know that.
Posted by: greg at April 07, 2005 02:39 PM (/+dAV)
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BAIO IN CHARGE OF NBC SITCOM
by Nellie Andreeva, The Hollywood Reporter
(December 27, 2004)
"Former teen heartthrob Scott Baio (Happy Days, Charles-in-Charge) takes charge of another sitcom, playing a fortysomething smart guy who moves in with a twentysomething upstart and turns his life upside down. This yet untitled comedy project from HBO Independent Productions and Tagline Productions has already received a script commitment from NBC. Emmy winning writer-producer Jace Richdale (The Simpsons) is on board as executive-producer together with Blake McCormack who is penning the pilot episode."
More news to come later on.
Posted by: the arcolytes at April 26, 2005 11:21 PM (5IbBd)
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GLENN LOVELL, THE SAN JOSE MERCURY NEWS:
"Scott Baio, best-known as Chachi from TV's 'Happy Days' is wonderful as Dominic, the bakery owner who's stretched dangerously thin with a corporate day job......Overall, 'THE BREAD, MY SWEET' rises to the occasion and warms the heart while whetting the appetite. Moreover, it reminds us that Baio, who was terrific in 'Bugsy Malone' and 'Foxes' before being helplessly typecast by 'Happy Days', belongs on the big screen. In his scenes with love interest Kristen Minter and especially Rosemary Prinz's immigrant mother, Scott Baio exhibits a rugged charm that so far has eluded the likes of Tom Cruise and Ben Affleck."
Posted by: the arcolytes at April 28, 2005 11:28 PM (KKLUF)
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PHIL HALL, FILM THREAT:
"The real surprise in 'THE BREAD, MY SWEET', of course, is Scott Baio. Forget (if you can) his sitcom past and enjoy a deep rich performance here. Baio perfectly captures the anguish and anxieties of a man being pulled in multiple directions and by different expectations. Whether living the role of a Fortune 500 executive or speaking with serene understanding among his problematic brothers, Baio invests the role with an emotional versatility that has never been seen in any of his previous performances. In small moments when his parallel worlds overlap, such as a boardroom meeting where he places a handful of macadamia nuts on a table and comments on their effectiveness in baking, Scott Baio comes alive with a subtle depth that clearly states what a truly fine actor he is."
Posted by: the arcolytes at May 06, 2005 09:43 PM (HNs/x)
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JAMES VERNIERE, THE BOSTON HERALD:
"Scott Baio, still best known for his fresh-faced adolescent stint on 'Happy Days', gives an impressively soulful, genuinely romantic and, for lack of a better word, masculine performance in 'THE BREAD, MY SWEET' - one that should persuade the industry to take another look at him."
Posted by: the arcolytes at May 13, 2005 11:21 PM (a2oO7)
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WES BENNETT, DR. MOVIE MOVIE :
"I cannot stress enough what a great performance Scott Baio gives in 'THE BREAD, MY SWEET'. He was perfect for the role and no big name actor could have done it any better. His charisma is vital to making Lucca and Dominic's relationship develop in a realistic and moving way."
Posted by: the arcolytes at May 20, 2005 11:41 PM (xi1rp)
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FRANK SCHECK, THE HOLLYWOOD REPORTER:
"Scott Baio, whose role as television's Chachi has forever doomed him to trivia-game-answer status, delivers a highly effective and restrained performance in 'THE BREAD, MY SWEET' as Dominic Pyzola, a young Italian-American who divides his working time between serving as a ruthless acquisitions executive for a big corporation and baking biscotti in the family bakery that he also manages."
Posted by: the arcolytes at June 02, 2005 11:39 PM (Z7SzD)
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JONATHAN CURIEL, THE SAN FRANCISCO CHRONICLE:
"Realistic dialogue and convincing performances, especially by Rosemary Prinz and Scott Baio, give 'THE BREAD, MY SWEET' it's soul. The film is at it's most powerful in tight quarters when for example Baio's Dominic asks Massimo for Lucca's hand in marriage. Scott Baio looks away, nervous but almost expressionless, during the conversation which is stripped of any affectation or Hollywood dressing up."
Posted by: the arcolytes at June 10, 2005 11:23 PM (s2GpE)
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JOHN MONAGHAN, THE DETROIT FREE PRESS:
"Park the 'Charles In Charge' wisecracks at the door because Scott Baio is truly the best thing going for 'THE BREAD, MY SWEET'. Director Melissa Martin gets a solid performance out of Baio."
Posted by: the arcolytes at June 17, 2005 12:03 AM (E2afK)
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ED JOHNSON-OTT, NUVO.NET:
"In the lead role, Scott Baio is a revelation. The veteran star of 'Happy Days' and 'Charles In Charge' has grown into a fine actor, anchoring 'THE BREAD, MY SWEET' with a terrific performance."
Posted by: the arcolytes at June 24, 2005 09:04 PM (NJYG3)
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ROBERT HORTON, AMAZON.COM EDITORIAL REVIEW:
"And in an image-changing turn, former kid star Scott Baio delivers a terrific assured performance. Its the biggest surprise in a sweet movie, 'THE BREAD, MY SWEET'."
Posted by: the arcolytes at July 08, 2005 11:17 PM (CN2It)
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BILL O'DRISCOLL, THE PITTSBURGH CITY PAPER:
"Perhaps the biggest surprise in 'THE BREAD, MY SWEET', to those who know only his string of sitcoms, will be Scott Baio. He delivers a mature, grounded performance and is wholly believable as a man gropingly trying to figure out how he screwed up what's most important in his life."
Posted by: the arcolytes at July 15, 2005 11:32 PM (rEjFv)
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MARGARET A. MCGURK, THE CINCINATTI ENQUIRER:
"The story of 'THE BREAD, MY SWEET' centers on Dominic, played with a nice blend of confidence and vulnerability by Scott Baio, a young executive who is making a bundle in the mergers and acquisitions business."
Posted by: the arcolytes at July 22, 2005 11:23 PM (6ufe7)
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CHICAGO METROMIX:
"All the acting is good in 'THE BREAD, MY SWEET', especially Scott Baio who looks and plays to perfection the role of a type-A businessman with a secret heart."
Posted by: the arcolytes at July 29, 2005 11:19 PM (toGLx)
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BOB LONGINO, THE ATLANTA JOURNAL-CONSTITUTION:
"Scott Baio, who plays a part-time baker and full-time corporate big wig, is quite good in 'THE BREAD, MY SWEET'. He exudes a naturalism, a compelling conviction that gives depth and meaning to the lines he delivers."
Posted by: the arcolytes at August 08, 2005 11:31 PM (rkF5/)
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JOHN NICCUM, LAWRENCE.COM:
"Former sitcom veteran Scott Baio is terrific in 'THE BREAD, MY SWEET'. He shifts effortlessly between manipulative and sincere, especially when pitching his idea for the marriage to Lucca."
Posted by: the arcolytes at August 19, 2005 12:16 AM (nhJgf)
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JIM LANE. SACRAMENTO NEWS AND REVIEWS:
"Scott Baio in 'THE BREAD, MY SWEET' still looks younger than his 42 years but he's definitely outgrown Chachi from 'Happy Days' and has a warm, mature screen presence."
Posted by: the arcolytes at August 19, 2005 12:39 AM (nhJgf)
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ERIC MENDER, FILM JOURNAL:
"Scott Baio gives a surprisingly deep and convincing performance in 'THE BREAD, MY SWEET'."
Posted by: the arcolytes at August 21, 2005 11:39 PM (b1zeQ)
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THE POPKORN JUNKIES:
"Scott Baio is fantastic in 'THE BREAD, MY SWEET', one of his first major film roles."
Posted by: the arcolytes at August 21, 2005 11:47 PM (b1zeQ)
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MICHAEL O'SULLIVAN, THE WASHINGTON POST:
"BAIO'S AT HIS BEST IN 'BREAD'"
"Believe it or not, this little charmer is better than its half-pretentious, half-gooey title might lead you to believe. As long as you don't think too much, the movie - a sleeper hit in Pittsburgh, where it is set - just might win you over with its tale of a biscotti baker-cum-mergers and acquisitions exec (Scott Baio) who sets out to marry a virtual stranger he doesn't even initially like (Kristen Minter) just to make a dying old woman (Rosemary Prinz) happy. Up until the disappointing Hollywood-style ending, the movie feels about as atypical as they come, and that's a good thing.
None of the Italian-Americans around whom writer-director Melissa Martin's sweet story centers, for instance, have Mafia connections, nor are they the sort of garlic-eating, wildly gesticulating caricatures found in so many commercials for marinara sauce.
BAIO SIMPLY SHINES AS DOMINIC, the romance-impaired friend of an elderly couple who lives above his bakery and whose preposterous marriage proposal to their daughter Lucca (Minter) comes when he learns that the woman who has treated him like a son is terminally ill. It's obviously a little hard to believe, but Baio and Minter, who plays a kind of bruised soul to Baio's romantic cripple, add plausability to the transaction, which begins as a business deal and grows into something more.
Enriched by a strong and unforced supporting cast, 'Bread' nourishes the heart, even if its fairy-tale ending feels tacked on and unnecessary."
Posted by: the arcolytes at August 28, 2005 11:40 PM (CN2It)
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COLIN COVERT, STAR TRIBUNE:
"SCOTT BAIO SURPRISES IN 'THE BREAD, MY SWEET'"
"Scott Baio, movie star? Yes, Scott Baio from 'Happy Days', 'Joanie Loves Chachi' and 'Charles in Charge'. Hold the snickers, please, and see 'THE BREAD, MY SWEET', a micro-budgeted indie romance that is receiving national distribution thanks to the sleeper success of 'My Big Fat Greek Wedding'.
While it should appeal to the folks who have pushed Nia Vardalos' family farce past the $ 200 million mark, 'The Bread' is the better film of the two by a long shot. It's also a sweet ethnic romance, but warmer and more poignant, without the cardboard stereotypes and too-broad humor.
Baio, now a handsome 40-year-old, plays Dominic, a workaholic corporate takeover artist. Cleaning out 'dead-wood' employees is lucrative but not fulfilling for the soul. For that he turns to his hobby job, running a Pittsburgh biscotti bakery staffed by his brothers, an incorrigible skirt-chaser and a slow-witted pastry savant.
The shop, a haven of intoxicating smells and humane warmth, seduces him, and he astonishes his colleagues by quitting the world of high finance to work there full-time.
There's another appeal to the bakery: the elderly Italian couple who live one floor up. Dominic is enchanted by Bella (soap-opera veteran Rosemary Prinz), a warm, maternal type who treats the brothers like her sons. Bella's greatest regret is that her daughter Lucca, a Peace Corps vagabond, hasn't settled down to start a family of her own.
For reasons that can't be revealed here, Dom contacts Lucca (Kristen Minter of 'ER') and uses his corporate dealmaking savvy to convince her to answer Bella's prayers. In a benevolent deception, they will marry so Bella's worries can be put to rest.
The idea is a hokey comic contrivance, but the film, directed and written by Pittsburgh playwright Melissa Martin, treats the details of the agreement with full seriousness. It never takes easy shortcuts on the way to its touching conclusion. Dominic's transformation from corporate shark to a good, big-hearted man - 'a piece of bread' in Italian slang - is unforced and entirely credible.
'THE BREAD, MY SWEET' is a warm and satisfying treat. Anyone who can resist its charms is a crusty character indeed."
Posted by: the arcolytes at September 04, 2005 11:54 PM (/oxi4)
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For the official record, "THE BREAD, MY SWEET" (a.k.a. "A WEDDING FOR BELLA") captured the top accolades (best feature film and/or audience favorite) in the Santa Monica, Stony Brook, Marco Island, Houston Worldfest and Iowa Hardacre film festivals.
For his critically-acclaimed lead performance as Dominic in this movie, SCOTT BAIO victoriously earned three (3) prizes: Best Actor in the Atlantic City Film Festival, Best Actor in the San Diego Film Festival and the Silver Screen Award for Achievement in Acting at the Kansas City Halfway To Hollywood Film Festival.
Posted by: the arcolytes at September 10, 2005 09:19 PM (99COg)
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CHACHI GETS "ARRESTED"
"The masterminds of 'Arrested Development' have tapped Scott Baio to take over as the madcap Bluth family's new legal counsellor during season 3.
Henry Winkler, who's starring in his own CBS series 'Out Of Practice' this fall, likely won't be around to continue his recurring role as incompetent lawyer Barry Zuckercorn in the FOX sitcom.
So with the Fonz no longer available, the Emmy-winning show is turning to Charles-in-Charge.
FOX confirms that Baio, who played Fonzie's young cousin Chachi for several years on 'Happy Days', will guest-star as another lawyer retained by the Bluth family to deal with their myriad legal problems. Thus far, he is set for just one episode playing a character named Bob Loblaw.
'I got the call on Friday,' Scott tells E! Online TV columnist Kristin Veitch. 'I play their new attorney who's taking over for Barry. And I'm just there to represent the family in whatever's going on in this nutty show.'
Baio's character will have some pretty low standards to live down to. In two years of 'Arrested Development', Winkler as Zuckercorn has managed to stay employed despite utterly inept lawyering and potentially deviant behavior.
Scott Baio's casting extends the 'Happy Days' lineage of 'Arrested Development' that includes Ron Howard (erstwhile Richie Cunningham) who produces the series through his Imagine Entertainment and also serves as the show's deadpan narrator as well as Henry Winkler who's appeared in more than a dozen episodes over the past two seasons."
(September 6 and 7, 2005 courtesy of ZAPZIT TV NEWS and E! ONLINE NEWS.)
Posted by: the arcolytes at September 18, 2005 11:41 PM (dHDRZ)
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TAOS TALKING PICTURE FESTIVAL REVIEW:
"Director Ellie Kanner makes her feature film debut with 'FACE TO FACE' (a.k.a. 'ITALIAN TIES'), a rollicking story of fathers and sons. Scott Baio makes a very welcome return to the screen as Richie, the affable ringleader who proves the perfect foil to his cousins: wisecracking Philly (Thomas Calabro) and the chronically negative Al (Carlo Imperato). Dean Stockwell is at his cigar-chomping, exasperated best as Richie's father who dresses down his own brothers Phil (Alex Rocco) and Charlie (Joe Viterelli). In its gently comedic way, 'FACE TO FACE' proves that you don't have to see eye-to-eye to love each other."
Posted by: the arcolytes at October 04, 2005 11:42 PM (E1old)
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CHRIS GORE, THE TOP 1O INDEPENDENT FILMS WITHOUT DISTRIBUTION, FILM THREAT:
"Director Ellie Kanner brings Scott Baio's script to life. Yeah, I know what you're thinking - Scott frickin' Baio - funny thing is this father/son comedy is touching and Baio's damn good as the lead. Dean Stockwell's performance brought tears to the eyes of audiences who saw it on the festival circuit. It's a damn shame 'FACE TO FACE' (a.k.a. 'ITALIAN TIES') is collecting dust since this movie is a check just waiting to be cashed."
Posted by: the arcolytes at October 16, 2005 11:16 PM (rASZ3)
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DOUG BRUNELL, FILM THREAT:
"'FACE TO FACE' (a.k.a. 'ITALIAN TIES') is all about fathers, sons and the problems men have in communicating with one another. It goes from amusing to deeply sentimental in the blink of an eye, but never feels forced, and it definitely ranks as one of the better films to tackle the subject of what it means to be a man in American society. It's no 'Fight Club' though, despite the fact that Meat Loaf has a brief scene.
Richie (Scott Baio) and his two cousins have lost their grandfather, and they don't want to lose their dads without getting to know them. Their fathers (played by Dean Stockwell, Alex Rocco and Joe Viterelli) are the iconic Italian patriarchs; emotions besides anger rarely appear, and they feel life must be suffered in silence while providing for those who depend on them. Their sons (Baio, Thomas Calabro and Carlo Imperato) are a bit more modern in their approach to life. They want to hear about their fathers' ambitions, and they need to bond, though they often don't realize it. The boys' solution: kidnap their fathers and take them on a camping trip.
For all its comedic moments, 'FACE TO FACE' raises some serious questions. Namely, if men teach by example, what are we teaching our male children? How much rage can a person hold back before it explodes into a heart attack? At what point do you get the courage to tell your father you love him? And why do so many men hate their fathers only to end up acting just like them? (There's something very Nietzsche-like in that.)
This movie doesn't answer all those questions, but it attempts a discussion, which is something most men won't even venture toward even with the specter of death looming overhead. In other words: Don't plan on seeing this with your father, but do see it. It just may help you understand the man you'll become."
Posted by: the arcolytes at October 25, 2005 11:40 PM (VPcHD)
Google is the 'Beast', Al Gore the 'Antichrist'
The Unpopulist reports that Google has put his site up for sale.
My theory? more...
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Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
When the government starts requiring us to be "chipped" we will have been given the mark of the beast.
Posted by: greg at April 05, 2005 04:07 PM (/+dAV)
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Plus, 66.6, his IQ.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 05, 2005 04:08 PM (x+5JB)
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And here I thought Algore's IQ was 6.66!
Posted by: Macker at April 06, 2005 09:21 AM (xNMi0)
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Macker: You are quite right. I put the decimal point in the wrong place.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 07, 2005 10:02 AM (x+5JB)
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Tim Berners Lee is the creater of the internet!
Al Gore is nothing more than a loser politician.
And how does the search bot that google uses go in to your forehead and hand?
Supermarkets don't require google, do they?
And don't give me "666 is always in barcodes" because it isn't!
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