February 09, 2005

Prof. Joseph Woolcock Responds to Student's Allegations

Prof. Joseph Woolcock was accused by Kuwaiti student Ahmad al-Qloushi of ordering him to seek psychological counseling for his pro-American views.

Professor Woolcock responded to the accusation by dropping a comment in this post written at The Jawa Report by Gordon. After doing an initial IP search and contacting him, Prof. Woolcock confirmed that he had left the comment and had sent the same as a press release to the various MSM outlets. Ok, so we're not exactly the MSM---but I guess we'll do in a pinch! Here is what he says in his defense:

I have been asked by a number of news organizations about my interaction in late November 2004 with a Foothill College student Ahmad al-Qloushi. This is my response.

In mid-November 2004, Ahmad al-Qloushi came to see me at my request to discuss the outline of his Final Research Paper assignment in the course : “Introduction to American Government & Politics.” He had failed to write the mid-term assignment and had chosen to write his final paper on a topic we both agreed would be a challenge for him. Recognizing that he would have difficulty completing the assignment, I offered him the opportunity to write his paper on a less challenging topic from the mid-term assignment list of topics. We agreed that should he take up the offer, I would not only discount the points he failed to earn at mid-term, but I would also work with him on the outline, and on the review of a draft copy of the paper before he submitted it for grading. Mr. al-Qloushi agreed to do that. However, he turned in his final written assignment without returning for the assistance which we had agreed on earlier. When I read the paper, it became clear to me that it did not respond to the question.

In late November, after grading all final papers, I asked Mr. al-Qloushi to come
and discuss with me the grade. During this meeting, I sought from him his
reasons for reneging on our earlier agreement. In response, he expressed in
great detail, concerns and feelings of high anxiety he was having about certain
developments which had occurred over ten years ago in his country. Some aspects of his concerns were similar to certain concerns expressed in his paper.

Based on the nature of the concerns and the feelings of high anxiety which he
expressed, I encouraged him to visist one of the college counselors. I neither
forced nor ordered Mr. al-Qloushi to see a counselor; I have no authority to do
so. My suggestion to him was a recommendation he freely chose to accept and
which he acknowledged in an e-mail message to me on December 1, 2004.

Foothill College counselors are competent and highly respected professionals
capable of providing professional services to students, and faculty members are
always encouraged by the college administration to make such referrals to
college counselors as the need may arise.

In my conversation with Mr. al-Qloushi, I did not make any reference, explicitly
or implicity, to the Dean of International Students or to any other Dean. In my
conversation with Mr. al-Qloushi, I did not make any reference, explicit or
implicit, to Mr. al-QloushiÂ’s status as an international student. At the time of
our conversation, Mr. al-Qolushi was still enrolled in my class, but after he
met with the counselor, he never returned to the class.

I deny unequivocally all the allegations Mr. al-Qloushi has attributed to me
regarding my suggestion to him that it might be helpful for him to discuss his
long-standing concerns with a college counselor, as I have described here. All
the other allegations made are false and have no basis whatsoever in fact.

Professor Joseph A. Woolcock

As a college professor let me make two observations in defense of both al-Qloushi and Woolcock.

First, students have a tendency to blow things way out of proportion, take professors the wrong way, or misinterpret what the professor is saying. Here's an example. On Tuesday I was describing an upcoming trip to D.C. and told the students how we would not be going on the White House tour. After class a student accused me of not going to the White House because I was a liberal Democrat. "If your man Bill Clinton were in the White House I bet you'd go," she said. Either I'm doing my job way too well and disguising my political beliefs or this student was just psycho.

This happens all the time. In fact, not a semester goes by where at least one student doesn't accuse me of giving them an F because I don't like their politics or have some personal vendetta against them. The fact is that neither is true.

The reason I give so many students an F is because there is no lower grade to give.

Second, it is understandable why this student might perceive bias in an Introduction to American Government class, especially one that uses Dye and Ziegler's The Irony of Democracy. There is a definite leftist bias on American campuses. In my own department the biases are rarely overt, but come out in the snide remarks, jokes, or what passes as irony by the faculty. Because we are so insulated, most professors are not even aware of their own biases. To their credit, when these biases are pointed out to most of my colleagues they at least make an attempt at fairness.

On top of these biases Dye and Ziegler prove difficult reading for students. You see, The Irony of Democracy is written from an elitist point of view. Elitism rejects pluralism in favor of a model of democratic participation where the few lead the many. The problem for students is that they do not understand the difference between a normative model and an empirical model. Dye and Ziegler do not argue that elites should lead, but that this is simply the nature of social relations. It is neither bad nor good--it simply is. In fact, if my reading of Dye is correct then he is a Conservative Republican. But students just have a difficult time seeing this and think the book bashes the Founders. It does not.

Since facts are in dispute in this controversy I am not able to say which are true. However, my own experience suggests that Professor Woolcock's version of the events are probably accurate. Students often mistake the intentions of their professors.

Further, students have the tendency to think that we really give a rat's ass what their political beliefs are. We don't. In fact, there is nothing personal about the grading process at all. We don't give you an A if we like yo and and F if we don't. We rarely think of you at all.

It's not that we don't feel for you, we do. It really breaks my heart to have to give the number of Fs that I do. It's just that we don't care.

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For more background on the Ahmad Al-Qloushi allegations see this article written by the student.

For other professor's takes see:
James Joyner
Steve Taylor
Betsy Newmark
Northern Alliance

For blogosphere reaction to the initial accusations see:
Michelle Malkin
Wizbang
Pandagon
Blackfive
Hyscience
California Yankee
Samizdata

(Cross posted at Anticipatory Retaliation and Demosophia)

Posted by: Rusty at 10:36 AM | Comments (22) | Add Comment
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1 I didn't cross post this to my site. So let me use this comment section to issue an apology. Politically speaking, Prof. Woolcock may be an ass But I am aghast to learn that he was an unnecessarily harassed ass. Thanks for the detailed research, Rusty. You're not the MSM (yet), but you are showing that bloggers are concerned with getting it right.

Posted by: Gordon at February 09, 2005 12:38 PM (dqTOU)

2 " ...students have the tendency to think that we really give a rat's ass what their political beliefs are. We don't.... We rarely think of you at all." Ooh, that's definitely gonna leave a mark!

Posted by: TC@LeatherPenguin at February 09, 2005 12:46 PM (kiH79)

3 Man, I thought the "The reason I give so many students an F is because there is no lower grade to give" remark was the money shot myself.....

Posted by: Rusty at February 09, 2005 12:54 PM (JQjhA)

4 While I didnt write on this topic I did read around a bunch. The student blew that crap out of proportion. The good thing is we had some real prof's in the sphere who graded his lame paper and gave it an F too. I'd be behind the professor on this one even if he was a pinko commie. "The reason I give so many students an F is because there is no lower grade to give." *snicker*

Posted by: Digger at February 09, 2005 12:57 PM (c2i02)

5 hah! you musta been typing while I was

Posted by: Digger at February 09, 2005 12:58 PM (c2i02)

6 After class a student accused me of not going to the White House because I was a liberal Democrat. "If your man Bill Clinton were in the White House I bet you'd go," she said. Either I'm doing my job way too well and disguising my political beliefs or this student was just psycho. Or the idea of Universities as Impregnable Halls of Liberalism Where No Conservative Dare Tread is so entrenched in the minds of conservatives that some of them are... ok, yeah, they're just psycho.

Posted by: jenniebee at February 09, 2005 01:14 PM (JBPdX)

7 Dr. Rusty, I disagree that professors don't let their personal feelings about a student influence their grade. I agree that YOU do not, but in any course that is not a math or hard science, there is an element of subjectivity in grading any assignment. While we have some checks on this, in the end, the student that the professor wants to give an A, will get an A. This is unlikely in an intro class of 160, but very likely in an upper level or graduate course of 15 students. I also think that the converse of that doesn't work - because a student that earns a poor grade may challenge it, we don't give F's to those we 'want' to. They have to earn it. I'll give the A based upon work ethic and effort if they only got a high B, but a 70.001 is still a C, even for slackers. You're right - I don't care if my students are left or right in their views either. Many profs do care, but they don't use it against them. My Communist teacher gave me an A, even though I was clear in my conservative capitalist beliefs.

Posted by: Hammertime at February 09, 2005 01:45 PM (cFg3z)

8 Attending a prestigious DC university--aren't they all?--in the '60s, there were certainly profs who cared about students' politics. I recall one year, my last, in which some profs would flunk you if you didn't attend an anti-war demo and other's would flunk you if you did. Fair, balance, and psychotic.

Posted by: John at February 09, 2005 02:45 PM (IuAUA)

9 Rusty, have you ever tried to give a "G" on a paper, etc .. just to see what would happen? And, yes, it was the money shot.

Posted by: carin at February 09, 2005 02:49 PM (1lEvk)

10 Sweet way to end the post with a subversive Office Space reference.

Posted by: Leopold Stotch at February 09, 2005 05:45 PM (ws3tS)

11 This isn't about me and my dreams about doing nothing...it's about all of us.

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at February 09, 2005 06:40 PM (JQjhA)

12 Oh, and great comments every one else. But seriously, my experience is that Profs don't really care about your political views when it comes down to grading. Maybe they can't always hide their biases when teaching--we're only human--but grading is another matter. Look, I'm sure it happens occasionally, I'm just saying that as a matter of common practice I don't think it's that widespread. I will admit, though, that an atmosphere of hostility can be created wherein more conservative or libertarian minded students feel they can't speak up or feel excluded. That is another matter altogether.

Posted by: Rusty at February 09, 2005 07:01 PM (JQjhA)

13 As adjunct faculty I would tend to agree with you about the students political views in relation to grades earned. I never grade papers with the studentÂ’s political views in mind. I grade papers based on whether the student did the work correctly or not. While I donÂ’t teach history or politics I do encourage spirited debate on how our country should be run. I enjoy listening to all points of view, even if I disagree with them. Thanks for getting the facts of this encounter out to us so we can draw a more reasoned conclusion.

Posted by: Azygos at February 09, 2005 08:12 PM (CxIc8)

14 Plenty of professors do let their political biases dictate the grades they give, so the fact that many don't is irrelevant to the specific case at hand. According to the student, the question was: 'Dye and Zeigler contend that the constitution of the United States was not “ordained and established” by “the people” as we have so often been led to believe. They contend instead that it was written by a small educated and wealthy elite in America who representative of powerful economic and political interests. Analyze the US constitution (original document), and show how its formulation excluded majority of the people living in America at that time, and how it was dominated by America’s elite interest.' That is not a question at all, but a very narrow, Marxist description of the motives of the Founding Fathers. The student is being invited to agree with it. He did address the thesis, but disagreed with it. Woolcock doesn't address that, in his response. Instead he makes a vague description of the events surrounding the student's selection of topic and a discussion with him that ensued. Why no specifics as to what was wrong with the student's paper? Further, this is all one is supposed to have to know to pass an introductory course in Political Science? That beggars belief. There's more to this than Woolcock is saying.

Posted by: Patrick R. Sullivan at February 10, 2005 09:49 AM (0y+ms)

15 I taught accounting at several universities for 25+ years. I can only speak for myself, but when I disliked a student for any reason I always made sure to give them the benefit of the doubt in grading. Usually the benefit of the doubt was still insufficient to raise their grade above an F, although it did happen on the odd occasion. During the '70s and '80s, I taught at two universities with a significant number of Arab and Persian students in the College of Business. Nearly every semester I had at least one of these students protesting a grade I gave them. I even had one of them show up at my home demanding I change his grade. I always remember how stubborn they were that they were right and I was wrong. Fortunately, I never allowed them to retain their graded work so it was easy to demonstrate to the Head, Dean, or Committee why they received the grade they did.

Posted by: Laddy at February 10, 2005 11:47 AM (AhrnS)

16 Woodcock has been accused of various students as being abusive and political. I tend to take the student's position. If he were my professor I'd be in front of the dean with my lawyer. Or in front of the prof with my wild rotweiller.

Posted by: TJ Jackson at February 10, 2005 12:21 PM (zitVZ)

17 Money Shot? This is a porno site? "I gave him an F because there is no lower grade to give", is a very old teacher gag line. Must be a new batch of students on line. As for Woolcock; his arrogance comes through strong. He protests his lack of concern for students political viewpoint too much. His chosen text is a giveaway.

Posted by: bbwolfe at February 10, 2005 01:44 PM (TpiAD)

18 Hey- what is all the fuss about Woolcock? It is so stupid that people keep talking about this guy. Just fire the bastard and hire a competent instructor and move on- get this behind you. Obviously WoolCOCK screwed up and should find a new job where he can be dishonest- like a used car salesman! That way he can sleep at night selling a bunch of shit to immigrants who don't know any better...

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