. What we do here is make fun of terrorists and expose their evil agenda. What he does there is he
What many in America do not understand is that terrorists are linked together with a common ideology. That ideology is not 'terrorism'. 'Terrorism' is a means to an end, the end, however is just as frightening as the means. The ends are the global caliphate under sharia law as first envisioned by The Muslim Brotherhood at the fall of the Turkish empire.
I condemn the IRA, but I don't consider them a major threat to Western Civilization. On the other hand, The Muslim Brotherhood has (at least publicly) renounced violence yet I consider them a far more dangerous organization.
The jihadi networks are bound together through internet sites and discussion boards where they give each other support, instruction, and even coordinate attacks.
The FBI and CIA still operate in pre-9/11 mode when it comes to these terrorist web sites. That is, the operators of these websites are largely ignored or when attention is paid to them it is in the guise of a criminal indictment. If 9/11 taught us anything, it is that we cannot treat the jihadi terrorists as criminals. This is war, and pro-active cyber-warfare must be part of that strategy.
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Keep up the good work Rusty! Thank you for keeping everyone informed with sites like Hagganah Internet!
Posted by: infidel2005 at March 09, 2005 08:41 PM (kijOw)
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Hold on there, Dr., you make a subtle but vastly important misstatement; those, like bin-Laden, who wish to restore the Caliphate want to do just that, restore the historical boundaries of the Caliphate. They are not interested in a global Caliphate, ruling North American for example. Without understand the enemies strategic goals, you cannot formulat a strategic response. See exhibit A, Iraq policy. And read Sun-Tzu.
Posted by: The Third Policeman at March 09, 2005 08:56 PM (+wRRM)
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third, I think you are wrong, so I will give you my evidence, which may or may not change your perspective,.
"Muslim institutions, schools and economic power should be strengthened in America. Those who stay in America should be open to society without melting, keeping Mosques open so anyone can come and learn about Islam. If you choose to live here, you have a responsibility to deliver themessage of Islam ...... Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faiths, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth."
Omar Ahmad Co-founder of the Council on American-Islamic Relations
://www.ds-osac.org/view.cfm?KEY=7E4251454656&type=2B170C1E0A3A0F162820
http://www.prophetofdoom.net/
"The Muslim Students' Association on american campuses ~~
Queensborough Community College in New York in March 2003 "We reject the U.N., reject America, reject all law and order. Don't lobby Congress or protest because we don't recognize Congress. The only relationship you should have with America is to topple it Â… Eventually there will be a Muslim in the White House dictating the laws of Shariah." http://www.meforum.org/article/603
Posted by: rumcrook at March 09, 2005 10:36 PM (vB5JO)
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third, with all respect, ive got many more examples of statements made by so-called mainstream muslim advocates and groups in the u.s. saying that everything and anything that can be done to bring done our present system and replace it with islamic law should and will be done.
so your thinking that the "caliphate will stop in the middle east because thats all they really want is woefully blind to the facts of thier actions and words.
Posted by: rumcrook at March 09, 2005 10:42 PM (vB5JO)
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Yes, Aaron does good work. I would hope by now the feds have realized the Net is how these folks communicate. Either directly or concealed in posts on these sites.
We should be exploiting this and taking this battle to them in cyberspace.
Also on a separate note the Iranian people have the potential to implode the rulling theocracy of the Mad Mullahs of Iran. We can support them by keeping the communications lines open and facilitating instant messaging within Iran.
See these links on our site:
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Posted by: Ron Wright at March 09, 2005 10:53 PM (aSGdk)
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So you are saying that Eric Rudolph, that cyanide bomb ring in Tyler Texas, the KKK, the Oklahoma City bombing and all the terroist attacks against family planning clinics are a direct expression of Sharia law? Are you insane or simply stupid?
Posted by: JRI at March 10, 2005 06:52 AM (EeQUM)
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JRI,
Perhaps you failed basic statistics. If so, here is a refresher.
N=13 is a smaller number than N=1,456
Third Policeman, I hope you come back to read this. Al Qaeda has just released (last week) a new magazine (ironically called "The Tip of the Camel's Hump"). I linked to it last week. What I didn't link to was a translation of one of the articles which was essentially a long-term strategy for global domination. Phase 1 of ought to be called "oeration mayhem" because it calls for destabilitzation efforts in the "apostate regimes" (Saude Arabia, Egypt, etc.) Phase 2 calls for tawhid of the umma or unification of the Muslim nation. That is the gradual unification of Muslim lands into the greater caliphate which would comprise all lands where Muslims dominate. Phase 3 is the evenual conquering of the world.
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at March 10, 2005 08:09 AM (JQjhA)
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You should have underlined and bolded this line:
The ends are the global caliphate under sharia law as first envisioned by The Muslim Brotherhood at the fall of the Turkish empire.
Because that is the reason for jihad and only reason the terrorists work, or at least that's how it started.
Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at March 10, 2005 09:01 AM (PEKrh)
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JRI: What does the KKK have to do with any to the bullshit you are raving about?
Posted by: greyrooster at March 10, 2005 11:39 PM (CBNGy)
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JRI: What does the KKK have to do with any of the bullshit you are raving about?
Posted by: greyrooster at March 10, 2005 11:40 PM (CBNGy)
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Methinks somebody touched a bit of a raw nerve there
Posted by: sparky at March 11, 2005 07:43 PM (F1nba)
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I sense a "ROPE trip" coming on.
Am I right?
Posted by: sparky at March 11, 2005 07:51 PM (F1nba)
Posted by: greyrooster at March 11, 2005 10:18 PM (CBNGy)
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Hell, All we do is stand around the fire and drink beer. Why do we get blamed for everything?
We haven't lynched anyone lately. The church used to burn people at the stake. Why not use them for examples of cruelty. Not us. We do it quick. Before the law comes.
Posted by: greyrooster at March 11, 2005 10:24 PM (CBNGy)
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The Church did burn some people at the stake, but that was before environmental concerns were an issue.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at March 13, 2005 09:18 AM (5DzD1)
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We quit using rubber tires for that reason. We care about the enviroment. That is why we try to clean it up.
Posted by: greyrooster at March 13, 2005 12:52 PM (CBNGy)
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A kinder, gentler Brotherhood.
:>)
I've found that a little bleach gets those whites looking looking brand new again. (I prefer Clorox.))
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at March 13, 2005 03:27 PM (5DzD1)
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It's not the dirt. It's the smokey smell that hangs no matter how many time you wash them. I store my outfit by rolling it up in pine needles. That way even the blood hounds can't trace you. We're gettin high tech. Besides, we raised the hounds. Heh, heh.
Posted by: greyrooster at March 13, 2005 10:12 PM (CBNGy)
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The capitalist within me smells money. Can we turn this into new product and make some big bucks? 50/50! Our target area will be south of the Mason-Dixon.
"New Nighty-Knight Laundry detergent!"
"Keeps your sheets white, soft, and static-free!
Don't be hounded by smoke smell! Try our new fresh pine scent!"
Meanwhile, I'll keep the day job.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at March 14, 2005 07:44 AM (x+5JB)
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Hello,
What you seem to not have understood by now is there method of attacks. What you tihnk is the war in irak isn't really the true war, its just a veil that has been put over your eyes to blind you from the truth. The real attacks started a long time ago in america. And it is "Reproduction" they intend to topple over america through reproduction, how?
Well, its simple... human multiply themselves exponentially, now according to the qu'ran a muslim has the right to have 4 wives... meaning if he has 2 children with each wife, it makes eight, the process is recursive since the children will in turn manage to either have 4 wifes if they are boys or be one of the 4 wives of yet another muslim. In the long term this process makes them become a majority in the country they are living, hence in the end becomes a political weight in that country, and as you know politician will need their vote and will do anything to get elected (everywhere its the same). But as time goes on and on, they will become a vast majority and hence will be able to topple any government. Take the example of both France and UK, those 2 countries are nearing the crisis, since now they have multiplied enough to voice out their opinion and to protest for tihngs they want, to topple the france and the uk's government to replace em by an islamic leader is just now a matter of time.
Another point, is that these people is using a very very fine exploit, yes, there's a big security hole our system. We always want to make a good face in the society and will not do anything that may make us appear bad in the eye of the world. They know we can't torture, legally, they know we can't force them to shift religion, they know we can't prevent anyone to join islam, they know we can't support one religion without supporting all the others along, they know we can't prevent them from making business with anyone, they know we can't won't be using alternatives energy sources because the petorl companies have a vast monopoly over these sources (since our own ppl buy the lbue prints of inventions and hide them so as they can still squeze money out of petrol), they know we just can't do anything bad against them, because we are bound by our good nature. Hence over the years they take advatange of the system day by day, we just can't retaliate without having any good reasons, else the entire world will blame us.
hope you'll make good usage of that information.
anonymously yours
Mr. Anonymous
Posted by: the small bug at June 24, 2005 11:55 PM (yfnxY)
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on 7th july 2005, warriors from the europe brigade of christian fighters from the church of england carried out the attack on 3 tube stations and the number 30 bus. we did this attack because of our increasing hatred for mr tony blair. we are planning attacks against violent nations and states.
Posted by: christian fighters from the church of england at July 13, 2005 10:32 AM (XMJRf)
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Caling all Hackers.
It's time to take up arms against these terrorists that are using the internet as a way of recruting more nutcases into there fold.
Thier use of the internet for communication / recruiting and showing movies of them killing people is becoming a very big problem and those who stand up in our british streets and incite murder & violence against us should be deported back to thier own country where they can say what they like, but our laws won't alow it (Well our soft law's are complete asses).
Shutting these people down with viruses or raiding thier bank accounts (I dont' think the law would be too upset about knicking terrorist money !). and the chance for the best hackers to become famous for doing damage instead of being condemed is a challenge the world would love you for.
It's brilliant way of fighting back all be it in a small way, but we all know how frustrating it is when the computer keeps crashing or someone steels information from our computers.
So if there are any really good Hackers out there who want to do good for the majoriity of the world and piss of a load of extremists at the same time then please give it some thought.
If I could do it I would !.I wish I had some real hacking skills, that I could put to good use.
I would be blowing up thier computers with every virus I could find instead of watching them killing people ! on the news.
I will watch this space and the news with anticipation in the hope that the best of the best of you take this up as a serious challenge.
Posted by: Martin at July 26, 2005 02:44 PM (nK14Y)
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