January 31, 2005
Have You Stopped Beating Your Wife?
So how racist are you, exactly? Harvard thinks they have a way of figuring that out, via the Harvard Implicit Association Test (Courtesy Tim Blair.)
This test purports to discover what hidden biases you might have on race, gender, sexuality or any one of a number of things. The methodology the test seems to use is based largely on what appears to be the Freudian Slip methodology. Take it and you'll see what I mean.
The part that I found supremely interesting was that I took the test to determine whether or not I was biased in favor of Kerry or Bush. Now, I am going to wait a minute for you all to look back through my posting history and form your own judgment on where I stand. Don't worry, go ahead - I'll wait.
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Maybe you're simply a "compassionate conservative?" If so, there's nothing wrong with that. George W. described himself as such when he was campaigning back in 2000.
Posted by: Venom at February 01, 2005 09:00 AM (dbxVM)
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I'd add that if you align yourself with GW you will still come off left-of-center, like most of the fiscal policies he's signed off on (with the main exception of the personal income-tax reduction). not to mention the bigger government vis a vis Homeland Security and a new intel reorg/czar.
Posted by: tee bee at February 01, 2005 10:53 AM (q1JHF)
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The thing is that the Bush v. Kerry test has precious to do with actual political views, but is seeking to determine what visceral bias one has towards the gentlemen.
Posted by: Bravo Romeo Delta at February 01, 2005 11:11 AM (kiA+F)
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Rusty, how did you find the Kerry - Bush test? I didn't see an option for U.S. nationalities.
Posted by: SteveL at February 01, 2005 12:16 PM (HBkVS)
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"Your data suggest a slight automatic preference for Bush relative to Kerry " This test is wrong. My preference is/was not slight! Shrinks need to desing a better test than this! Ask anyone who knows me. Slight my as-!
Posted by: Rod Stanton at February 01, 2005 12:23 PM (gVJtb)
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Good point, BRD.
Posted by: Venom at February 01, 2005 12:27 PM (dbxVM)
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SteveL,
When you get to the page, just hit the section that says Demonstration - that's the default for US users, and will have the whole raft of American tests.
Posted by: Bravo Romeo Delta at February 01, 2005 01:08 PM (kiA+F)
Congratulations!!!
Was there a major power outtage or what nine months ago? Did I miss orglefest 2004?
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You know...this sucks...since when is Hillary the face of the Democratic party? I have no choice now but to be independant
Posted by: Seaby Boy at January 31, 2005 11:00 PM (LpVDh)
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ACTUALLY, llamas are pregnant 11-1/2 months before they give birth.
Llama Mama
Cindy
PS don't get the one on Hilary Clinton but after hearing her passing out and not feeling good, she could me post menopausal pregnant. Wouldn't that be a hoot!
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at February 01, 2005 06:29 AM (D39Vm)
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Love 'em!
Posted by: Rod Stanton at February 01, 2005 12:00 PM (gVJtb)
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If Hillary Clinton TRIED to get that close to my son, being hit by a baby would be the LEAST of her concerns.
And that kid's not NEARLY as cute as The Lad.
Posted by: Brian B at February 01, 2005 03:14 PM (CouWh)
Religion of Peace Update 1/31/05
Today's Religion of Peace Update is brought to you by the folks at American Greetings, now offering their new line of CAIR Bears. (Thanks to Eric Smith for the CAIR Bears pic) and by the Mathemeticians for Freedom Alliance reminding you that d/dt (mv) = 0 ; v = const
Today's Religion of Peace Update is brought to you by the folks at American Greetings, now offering their new line of CAIR Bears. (Thanks to Eric Smith for the CAIR Bears pic) and by the Mathemeticians for Freedom Alliance reminding you that d/dt (mv) = 0 ; v = const Today's Religion of Peace theme: "Nunca encontraras una mas miserable madriguera de escoria y villania." (via Flea)
Federal judge says terror suspects at Gitmo can challenge detention in US courts.
Al Jazeera may be put on auction block--bin Laden to start early bidding on e-Bay.
Terror suspect raised money for Islamic schools (shock)
Terrorists strike in Tajikistan, blow up government building.
Iraqi election news roundup from the Poliblogger.
Pakistani, Afghani, and Lebanese jihadis open fire on ex-patriot Iraqi elections voters in Australia. And John Howard, the Aussi PM, proves once again to be one of America's staunchest allies.
Iraqis give terrorists the finger---literally!! (scroll down)
Ansar al Islam Claims To Have Shot Down British Plane but 1920 Revolution Brigade (the group that brought you such hostage takings as Dean Sadek) also claiming responsibility. (via Michelle Malkin)
Giving a Muslim a dirty look = anti-Muslim
Murdering Arab Christians in New Jersey = anti-Muslim
Remembering Israeli victims of terrorism at UC Irvine = anti-Muslim
Christians on PalTalk Chat Service Tracked by Radical Islamic Web Site.
Religion of Peace Uses Child With Down's Syndrome as Suicide Bomber
Thousands protest in Morocco: Tsunamai was Allah's punishment for wicked!
Islamic miracle: Like the images of Mary on a corn tortilla, Abu Mussab al Zarqawi begins to turn up in the oddest of places.
Kofi Annan gets it wrong again.
Arab broadcasters report Iraqi election more favorably than Germans. (via Instapundit)
Iraqi elections a European victory, not US.
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I did not like calculus 45 years ago and was not good at diff. Some how got an A in Integral. You got the equations a little screwed up - it should be V=const not Y. Aint no Y to solve for here. But the real solution is a lazy eight of dead Muslims.
Posted by: Rod Stanton at January 31, 2005 02:50 PM (IcheV)
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I think we need one less federal judge - speaking of #'s
Posted by: Rod Stanton at January 31, 2005 02:53 PM (IcheV)
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Forgot to say - WELLCOME BACK MISSED YA!
Posted by: Rod Stanton at January 31, 2005 02:54 PM (IcheV)
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The Aussies might have to kill you for calling their Prime Minister "Aussi PM" and suggesting he may be French :-)
Posted by: Indy Media Watch at January 31, 2005 03:47 PM (vLXE2)
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Actually, what we need is more judges like that one, and a
new President and Vice President that are no so power
hungery, bourgeois tyrant want to bes. Unfortunately we
are stuck with these two for 4 more years. If we are lucky
we can get a democratic congress in two years and they can bring
impeachment charges up on Bush like the Republicans did on
Clinton. Or maybe Bush and Chenny will follow Nixon's lead
and resign. We can hope.
Posted by: Butch at January 31, 2005 04:19 PM (Gqhi9)
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I think one of the bears is ticking.
Posted by: ccwbass at January 31, 2005 11:25 PM (7sER+)
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Butch--No, YOU are stuck with these two for four more years. The majority of Americans voted for the men.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at February 01, 2005 07:03 AM (x+5JB)
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As I stated earlier, the American people are stuck with them
for four more years. And when the majority of Americans find themselves in the unemployment lines, maybe then they will realize
the mistake they made. But I can always hope for a new Congress in
two years and Democratic Kenneth Starr.
Posted by: Butch at February 01, 2005 09:55 AM (Gqhi9)
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Impeach Bush? Did he defile the office as Clinton did? Yea man! Shouldn't be impeached for getting blow jobs in the Oval Office. Really makes us look good. A example for our youth to emulate. And then there was the other 6 ladies while he was married to the dork. No wonder the gettoites voted 100% for him. He behaved just like them. Clinton didn't have the self control to keep his dick in his pants for four years. Trust him with our countries future? Bullshit.
Bush our greatest president. A winner. Winner in two elections. Winner in America. Winner in Afghanistan. Winner in Iraq. HAIL BUSH. The master of commom sense. Oh yea. I forgot Butch. Piss on ya.
Posted by: greyrooster at February 01, 2005 10:19 AM (XC1Qx)
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And who the hell is WE. Must have a mouse in your pocket.
Posted by: greyrooster at February 01, 2005 10:22 AM (XC1Qx)
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Greyrooster he may have a turd in his pants!
Posted by: Rod Stanton at February 01, 2005 12:28 PM (gVJtb)
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Greatest President ever, you are truly stupid and sick.
And just for your freaking knowledge, no youth looks for the president
to be a role model. It all the coke sniffing heroin shooting atheletes
or the gangster rap murders that they look up to now. Hell I think it
would be a vast improvement if kids look up to getting laid instead of how to lay some one out permentaly. An yes getting a blow job in
the White house should of been the business of only three people,
Bill, Hilary and Monica. Also Clinton did nothing that JFK, DDE, or LBJ did not do. As for our future, our economy has never been better
when it was under his adminstration, unlike steel it all and keep it for myself and cronies Bush. Where the economy is like your mouth, in
the toilet. What big winner is Bush, he had his brother help him steel the first election, had Osma help him win the second, he sent our troops (not his vanishing ass) to win Afghanistan and Iraq. (Even though our troops has not won it yet, I know they will break the ragheads terror.)As for the we, I am talking about the 49% of the people who was not stupid enough to believe the words of a bourgeois tyrant. And chicken, once again you can feast on my crap to refuel your foul mouth.
Posted by: Butch at February 01, 2005 04:32 PM (Gqhi9)
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Liberalism is like assholeism. And you have the worst case I have ever seen. Nothing wrong with this economy, all things considered, that is if you are smart enough to take advantage of it. You are probably in some tax supported job and not bright enough to get out. Now the youth of America is horrible while Clinton who was dumb enough to get caught is great. (JFK, DDE, LBJ) Must be a democrat thing. Was DDE a democrat too? ha, ha.(BUSH BROTHER STEEL FIRST ELECTION, OSMA HELP WIN THE SECOND) heh, heh, What fucking getto you come from. That was great. shit for brains. LOL, ha, ha, ho, ho.
Posted by: greyrooster at February 01, 2005 11:47 PM (D+Kmg)
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Oh yea! I forgot your other hero. Jessie Jackson. He got caught to.
Wake up! Boy.
Posted by: greyrooster at February 02, 2005 12:14 AM (D+Kmg)
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Ken Starr. Clinton's buddy????? Yea right!!! What it is? You say that right. Right on. Ha, Ha, heh, heh. Fucking idiot.
Posted by: greyrooster at February 02, 2005 12:19 AM (D+Kmg)
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"What we have here...is a failure to communicate." (a la Strother Martin.)
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at February 02, 2005 07:33 AM (x+5JB)
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Conservativism is much like you, you old chicken. It sits there doing nothing but growing old and smelling up the room. It sits there gathering moss and spider webs because it is to stupid to move. Liberalism at least make changes. True, some time it may not be for the best, but at least it gets out and makes a change. It allows the new a chance to strive and go forth, instead of trying to shackle it where it has always been.
And if you are able to read, you will see that the National Deficit is the worse in our history. So you must be just plain stupid to believe otherwise. And what is mister Bush doing, asking for another 80 billions to help these raghead you hate so much. This is
you great president. How about spending that 80 billions here at home. (But if we did that he could not siphon as much of it to his own bank account.) Talking about bank accounts, I will let you know I am one of the white collar fields, and help pay my fair share of taxes supporting has beens like you on welfare. And to educate you again, (I should consider charging you a tutoring fee since you are so uneducated), DDE was a Republican. So it is not just a Democratic affair. And JFK, LBJ and DDE did not have to deal with camera
phones, or miniature listening devices, or Super zoom lens. As for Jessie Jackson, well you can have him. True he is a liberal, but his IQ is not much higher than yours, so we donÂ’t want him. And if you want to talk about Presidents getting caught, Look at the most infamous of all caughtee, Tricky Dick Nixon. Not only did he get caught, he got caught breaking the laws. Much like Bush is breaking the constitution, and Geneva convention now. So donÂ’t go spouting off how great the Republican party is. And since Bushie is breaking the GC and Constitution, that is why we need more judges like the one
that started this chat line in office.
And since you can not keep different chat lines different, let me just add, you probably loved being asshole to bellybutton in boot camp. Probably gave you a woody. That is why you probably still dream of those days. But now you are just a has been chicken little.
And Young BProf, is that enought communication for you.
Posted by: Butch at February 02, 2005 09:24 AM (Gqhi9)
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When I get my welfare check I'll send it to you, Right after I wipe my ass with it. Welfare? You got the wrong guy here. I can and do buy people like you to do my bidding. You Getto snipe. How are you going to educate anyone. You haven't been able to educate yourself out of the getto. Hit home didn't it? I'll place my Alma Mater against yours anytime. Like I said, you work for the tax payers for sure. Couldn't feed yourself if you didn't. You aren't anything but a future welfare check. So easy to read you're pathetic. What it is? wass up?
(No youth looks for the president to be a role model) Maybe not in your neighborhood. Dumb shit!
Examples of your educated writings.
(This is you great president.) Ha, ha.
(But if we did that he could not siphon as much of it to his own bank account) Ho, Ho.
(I will let you know I am one of the white collars fields) heh, heh, heh.
You going to educate someone? You must be a English major. Ha, Ha, LOL.
You dumb shit. Who you trying to fool.
Your post of 2/1 4:32 PM.
(IT all the coke sniffing atheletes) ha!
(gangster rap MURDERS they look up to now) ho ho!
(lay some one out PERMENTALY) heh! heh!
(when it was under his ADMINSTRATION heh,heh,heh!
(unlike STEEL it all and keep it for myself and CRONIES BUSH) ha, ha, ha, ho,ho! Cronies Bush? Who's cronie? jo ma ma?
(help him STEEL the first election) Did he weld that there steel? ha, ha.
(OSMA help him win the second) SAY WHAT?? OSMA you mean Joma? ha, ha
(break the ragheads terror) ho, ho, ha,
your post 1/31 4:19 PM
(that are no so power hungery) ho, ho
(tryant want to bes) ha, ha.
(lay SOME ONE out PERMENTALY) Oh great!
(Liberalism at least MAKE changes) I know your brain cannot work fast enough to talk correctly, but try and spell. TAKE YOU TIME. Ha, ha, heh.
(it allows the new a chance)
Your post of 2/2/9:24 AM
(this is YOU great president) This is getting hilarious.
(infamous of all caughtee) ha, ha.
(I am one of the white collar fields) Ha, ho, ho.
You ignorant piece of shit. You going to educate someone.
Well, I see now that I need to plant more watermelons this year.
White collar fields. Must mean green collard field. Where you belong. Yea! white collar on your apron. Fry that chicken boy!!!
Now go home. Turn that boom box down. Come back when you're truly ready to play with the big boys. Be sure and check the mailbox. It's food stamp time.
Yea, Yea, I know. Sorry white mo fucker.
Posted by: greyrooster at February 02, 2005 01:13 PM (GpysX)
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BOURBON: The dumb shit was probably to busy studying english to see Cool Hand Luke.
Posted by: greyrooster at February 02, 2005 01:16 PM (GpysX)
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Greyrooster: I'm willing to swear that there really is more to be learned from that film than most of the multicultural drivel being taught in high schools and colleges today. (Perhaps it's not a film to cuddle up to with ones wife, but it has to be on THE list of ten great action/drama films, along with Shane; The Quiet Man; The Dirty Dozen; The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly; Dirty Harry; Hard Times, etc.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at February 02, 2005 02:18 PM (x+5JB)
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Now hard times I liked. No one could have played that part except Bronson. Absolutely great. A classic down here. If you followed the action down here in Nawlins you would really appreciate the film. We play hard down here ya'll.
Posted by: greyrooster at February 02, 2005 04:22 PM (GpysX)
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It's certainly a less "commercial" film than the others, and sadly under-rated. As is Bronson, who won my admiration the day two thieves tried to break into his house in Vermont, resulting in Bronson breaking one of the bastard's arms.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at February 02, 2005 04:44 PM (VPJmC)
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Cool hand luke. Do you know they still have gangs like that down here. Shotguns, dogs and all. The guards must have seen the movie. They all wear the same sun glasses. They come through every week. I have some picnic tables on one of my fish ponds. They stop there for lunch. I sit and talk to both the guards and inmates. Usually, take them some cold drinks. They tell me they much prefer the gang to sitting in a cell all day. Liberals would think its cruel and terrible to dress men in stripes and make them work on the roads. No point here except our road sides are clean and we spend less than anywhere but Arizona. I wonder why we don't offer commuted sentences to some and send them to Iraq. Serve your country, get a paycheck, regain self esteem, send their kids some money, children could say my daddys in Iraq instead of saying he's in prison. Can you imagine a few thousand tatoo'ed, muscle bound, Gorillas from Folsom prison chasing after the terrorists. Would scare the shit out of them. Hey, am I on to something here.
Posted by: greyrooster at February 02, 2005 04:46 PM (GpysX)
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Better yet. Send the ones who haven't seen a women in ten years and make the prison guards at Abu Garib. That should get some confessions.
Posted by: greyrooster at February 02, 2005 04:49 PM (GpysX)
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I laughed out loud at your ideas, greyrooster! Priceless! And you know what? They make 100% sense!!!
Just as it does to have these guys repay society in some way for their crimes instead of stewing in a prison cell. It's just common sense. And human nature dictates, whether we like to admit it or not, that we DO have an inner sense of right and wrong, and prisoners would feel better about themselves knowing that they are helping to make ammends for their transgressions. It's just human nature.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at February 02, 2005 05:05 PM (VPJmC)
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I just checked and internet says we have 1.5 million prisoners incarcerated. If one in 15 could cut the mental and physical requirements that would 100,000 ass kicking troops with an opportunity to regain their self respect and their country. The answer to our troop shortage. Less face it. What danger would they be to us over there. The claim is that it takes $30,000 per year per prisoner. Give them the money and the glory.
Posted by: greyrooster at February 02, 2005 08:03 PM (GpysX)
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My buddy Charlie says it's a great idea. Send the boys from Attica to Iraq and arm each with a jar of vaseline.
Posted by: greyrooster at February 03, 2005 07:47 AM (G+9z1)
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Kind of an "oil for oil" deal??? That would be a first!
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at February 03, 2005 11:57 AM (x+5JB)
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You know chicken little, the only thing big about you is your mouth and your visions of grandeur. I believe the only reason you know about the chain gangs is because you are on one, and you sneak into the prison library to send these emails. Telling us that the chain gang comes by you two bit place is really telling us you live in the dumps. My neighborhood, you will never see a chain gang.
As for Cool Hand Luke, I have seen the movie several times, and why do you try and break his record of eating 50 boil eggs. Oh my bad, you only crap eggs, because you are not really a rooster but a big fat hen.
As far as you stupid idea about sending prisoners to Iraq, that is nothing new. I am sure you are one of the would be convicts that went to Vietnam instead of going to jail. Even besides that, Castro did the same thing already when he cleaned out the Cuban Jails and shipped them to U.S. You are nothing but a hate mongrel little minded
butt wipe. Buy me? The only thing you probably could by is your diploma off the internet, and you had to borrow money for that.
As to further educate you sorry excuse for a human, you are the one who actually started the name calling by calling Anonymous a Muslim. Check the post and see if you did not deserve the first salvo you chicken. Who knows, you could probably volunteer to be the butt boy so all these prisoner can get some training in before they go to Iraq. Or would you prefer to be the pivot boy in the middle of a circle jerk.
Go eat my sh?t some more little boy.
And Bourbon, I have to applaud you for being about to lower your
IQ low enough to have chicken little be able to understand you.
Also, most of Clint's movies are great as are Charles. I agree, I don't think Charles got have the credit he deserved.
Posted by: Butch at February 03, 2005 12:50 PM (Gqhi9)
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(comes by you two bit place)
(oh my bad)
(as far as you stupid idea)
(educate you sorry)
(so all these prisoner)
(charles got have the credit)
Unbelieveable.
A true literary giant.
You on crack BOY?
Too much fried chicken? All that grease affects the mental process causing one to write like a getto rat.
I asked he/she if he/she was muslim. Note no answer. In all probability he/she was a muslim. So that makes you not only a dumbsass but also a liar. Right! What it is!
No computers on chain gangs down here boy. Come on down. I'll have the sheriff show you. That is until next tuesday night when we light the fire.
I know the chain gang doesn't come around your neighborhood. That's because they come from your neighborhood.
Continue on Leroy. We need the laughter.
Oh yea! Keep kissing Bourbons ass. It's good for his ego.
Posted by: greyrooster at February 03, 2005 03:28 PM (n5v9Q)
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just wanted to say nice site!
Posted by: government grants at March 09, 2005 01:23 AM (dezPu)
Ansar al Islam Claims British Plane Shot Down
UPDATE: This is an archive page. If you are looking for more recent news about terrorist communiques or videos, please go to our MAIN PAGE HERE. Updated daily.
UPDATE: I knew it! 1920 Revolution Brigade claims downing of British Plane on Video. This is the same group responsible for the kidnapping of American Dean Sadek. (ht: Michelle Malkin)
10 are believed dead in the crash. Via Jeff Quinton this Times article:
The Ansar al-Islam group said in a statement on an Islamic website that its fighters tracked the Hercules aircraft, "which was flying at a low altitude, and fired an anti-tank missile at it".On the face of it, I do not believe the report. Why?The statement said: "Thanks be to God, the plane was downed and a huge fire and black clouds of smoke were seen rising from the location of the crash."
Established after the 9/11 attacks, Ansar al-Islam is one of IraqÂ’s older extremist groups and has been linked to al-Qaida.
First, Ansar al Islam has not been active in over a year. Unless the report is wrong and they mean Ansar al Sunna, which happens from time to time. The fighting remnants of Ansar al Islam seemed to have joined Ansar al Sunna. The only Ansar al Islam related activities in the past year have been fundraising and planning by a cell in Germany.
Second, wrong area. Ansar al Islam's base of operation was in Kurdistan. Ansar al Sunna has been operating in areas that were formerly Kurdish but which were 'Arabized' under the Saddam Hussein regime. The plane was apparantly shot down only 20 miles north-west of Baghdad which is in the Sunni triange but nowhere near al Sunna's normal base of operations.
Unless of course the terrorists were referring to this.... more...
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Two readings on this:
1. The Lockheed C-130 can be equiped with CM technology (Chafe, Flares), and most of the times is for heat, and radar guided ground-to-air munitions. The lack of any countermeasures "signatures" on the video recording could be:
A. The weapon was not a autonomous ground-to-air weapon, but an non-autonomous weapon used in an un-orthodox fashion (anti-personal, or anti-tank wepaon).
B. Lack of countermeasures onboard
C. Crew / CM system failure to acknowledge launch of an autonomous munitions.
2. Footage shot of mutitions being expended, then footage of crashed aircraft being added on to get required PR. If a munition of that size would hit a C-130 in mid-flight there would be smoke and fire in the air as well as noticable debres falling ... even if it was a 1-1,000,000 chance hit on a fuel cell.
Posted by: Salamander at January 31, 2005 12:04 PM (V40IZ)
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As a former C-130 pilot, I would say the options A + C above would be the root causes as to why the plane was shot down. If it was an optically guided anti-tank missile, then reactive flares would be ineffective. But such an anti-tank missile would have a short range only useful against low-flying aircraft, which unfortunately the Brits were this day. If the crew didn't see the launch, then any reactive maneuvering wouldn't have been performed, thus the absence of any flares.
The damage an anti-tank missile would do to the C-130 would be devastating, probably many times more than the standard MANPAD. Remember, an anti-tank missile is normally used against heavily armored vehicles, which the C-130 is not. Hitting a fuel cell isn't the only way to take the Herc out, a lucky strike at the wing root could structurally weaken the airframe and take off the wing or a lucky shot into the cockpit, and that is all she wrote. Either way, these terrorist bastards got lucky.
Posted by: Craig D. at January 31, 2005 09:47 PM (f3XV4)
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12,657 Ansar Al-Islam militants killed so far, and only 1,598 American Forces killed - haha!!! 
AMERICAN FORCES KILLS THE PRIMITIVES SUNNI's LIKE SMOOSHING LITTLE ANTS !!
AMERICAN FORCES KILLS THE PRIMITIVES SUNNI's LIKE SMOOSHING LITTLE ANTS !!Posted by: Brian Moreno at May 30, 2005 06:37 AM (RATdR)
Religion of Peace Uses Child With Down's Syndrome as Suicide Bomber
Via Matt Cardens this WaPo report:
"A handicapped child was used to carry out a suicide attack on a polling site," al-Naqib said. "This is an indication of what horrific actions they are carrying out."Related.He gave no other details about the attack, but police at the scene of one the Baghdad blasts said the bomber appeared to have Down's Syndrome.
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This is the true face of terrorism regardless of its intentions and suppossed reason for fighting. Use of those they can do their dirty work. I think the gruesome twist would be that one of the relatives with some radical views and confidence of the kid was contacted to "help" the cause.
These groups are the confidence men of the supreme kind: "Die for our cause, and you will be the hero of the people that never loved or cared for you". People ask why seemingly intelligent college grads do the work of terrorists: they are malliable and still naive, best example Italian and Japanese Red Brigade members who killed and carried out terrorist attacks for the palestinian's in the 60's, and 70's. White supremecy groups using the teens as their foot soldiers in poor and middle class working towns: young, educated enough to be dangarous, and naive. Also the sarin gas attack on the Tokyo metro system, highly educated people manipulated to carry out the dirty work of some suave crackpot.
Those insugents shown being carted off by their arms by the Iraqi forces should be looking forward to their treatment for extracting who their cohorts and handlers were ... one thing I must say is that middle eastern police forces have some very effective and harsh ways of helping you un-cloud that rusty memory ... and thats before they have even touched you yet.
Posted by: Salamander at January 31, 2005 08:46 AM (D4mP3)
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Yea man, like black muslims groups who teach young black people to hate whites. Terrorize neighborhoods and teach that other races are the devil. Groups like the black panthers, that invited young black kids to join in their hate campaigns. Black gangs like the bloods and crips who convince young black kids to kill and deal drugs. All in the name of racial justice. What a pity it is for these lame brains to influence young people to act out their hatred. Malcome X, Louis Farakhan, for years these hate mongers by deceit and trickery have recruited impressional young men to do their bidding. Just the way it is I guess.
Posted by: greyrooster at February 01, 2005 02:03 AM (DSbhO)
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Actually, the young man with Down syndrome was a Shiite who the family believes was taken by the bombers while they were voting. He was 19 years old and routinely wandered the neighborhood by himself safely, although he had the cognitive level of a 4-year-old. On election day, he apparently ran into the wrong people who used him. The bomb blew up when he was in the clear, and nobody died but him. The family heard the blast shortly after voting, and when they heard a "mongoli" was the bomber, they ran to the scene and found their son's head. According to stories I read, the family is broken up over the death of their son. No relative was involved in his death.
Posted by: downs dad at February 04, 2005 12:04 AM (SkEav)
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This is one of the saddest things I've read. Let's hopr the guys who did it were the ones killed by those Iraqi villagers.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at February 05, 2005 09:34 AM (ALptw)
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This is one of the saddest things I've read. Let's hope the guys who did it were the ones killed by those Iraqi villagers.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at February 05, 2005 09:34 AM (ALptw)
Kuwaitis Kill 4 Terrorists, Capture 'Spiritual Leader'
The 'spiritual leader' of an al Qaeda linked jihadi group in Kuwait, Amer Khlaif al-Enezi, was captured in a 9 hour running gunbattle between the terror suspects and Kuwaiti security forces. Four suspected terrorists were killed in the battle. One of those killed was a Saudi national. The former imam's brother was taken into custody yesterday.
One civilian was also killed in the clashes.
Thousands of rounds were said to have been exchanged in the shootout.
This is the fourth clash in the past month between suspected terrorists and Kuwaiti security forces this month. Many of the suspected terrorists are believed to have been in transit from other Arab states to Iraq. Hundreds of foreign terrorists have been reported fighting the U.S. in Iraq.
More: AFP, The Scotsman.
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Hmmm, what to do with these goons...
I say start publicly shooting them on the streets of Iraq in order to send a message out there--anyone else caught wearing a ski mask and carrying even a slingshot will meet the same fate.
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What a shift of terrrorism..quite mysterious. As to say that now Kuwait is the venue for terrorism for this month..Quite fishy!!! theories
Posted by: roopesh at February 01, 2005 01:03 PM (uEIrb)
January 30, 2005
But, but, but... (Update)
by Demosophist
Today, during a discussion on Fox News about the Iraq Election Moira Liasson objected to Brit Hume's contention that many people had been habitually skeptical about the odds of establishing a legitimate democracy in Iraq. Moira allowed that this just wasn't so, and that although many people had expressed skepticism about the details of the Bush plan nearly everyone had always had faith in the "will of all people to be free." Well, I can't speak for Liasson, nor do I know what she thought back then, but it seems to me her memory may be a bit "selective." Frankly, I don't know anyone who has more credibility with political sociologists on the topic of democratization than Amitai Etzioni, and over a year ago, back in November, 2003, I posted a comment to his blog post A Sociologist's Iraqi Exit Strategy. For documentation purposes you can find the original here, along with his response, but it's reproduced below for the sake of convenience: more...
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She is just plain lieing. Back a year ago she said the Iraq situation was a "quagmire" and there would never be a valid election. Sounds like she and Boxer are a team.
Posted by: Rod Stanton at January 31, 2005 08:25 AM (fLlQ8)
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people allways seem to forget that one basic rule, never say never....
Posted by: rumcrook at February 01, 2005 03:32 PM (KqxgH)
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Dr.Shepard why is Pat O'Connor imprisoned in Israel?
Thursday, February 03, 2005
Dr. Jack Shepard asks why did the Israel's Shin Bet Intelligence Agency imprison Patrick O'Connor an American for helping Palestinian children?
Dr. Jack Shepard says why is Patrick O'Connor,
an American and British Citizen,
imprisoned by Israeli's Shin Bet Intelligence Agency for help Palestinian Children!
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His letter from Maasiyahu Prison can be read below!____________________________________________________________________
Patrick O'Connor has also worked for Save the Children.
Save the Children works by preventing children and young people
from coming to further harm, through child protection activities.
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Below you can read Patrick O'Connor's letter
from Maasiyahu Prison
about his arrest and interview
by Isreal's Shin Bet intelligence Agency.
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Patrick O'Connor worked with Palestinian children in Gaza. Recently the Israeli authorities have begun searching for and arresting experienced International Solidarity Movement (ISM) and international activists.
My arrest and attempted deportation is another example of this.
Evidently the Israeli authorities find nonviolent resistance and active support of Palestinian rights to be threatening.
Despite claims to the contrary, they have adopted an unstated goal of breaking down and eliminating the ISM and other groups using nonviolence to support Palestinian rights.
During the past three years over 100 ISMers have been denied entry and 62 deported.
At the same time Israeli authorities have launched a propaganda campaign against ISM and other activists, with attempts to falsely link them with terrorism.
My recent interrogation by the Shin Bet shed some light on the tactics.On the morning of January 25th I was taken from a Ben Gurion airport detention center to Maasiyahu prison in Ramle.
I was put in a 20 foot by 10 foot cell with six other men served with deportation orders. After a few hours I was called from my cell without explanation.
My legs were cuffed together and I was led out of my section to another building. I was taken into a room with two men in plainclothes.
They closed the door, searched me thoroughly, and then set me down with the leg cuffs still on.
The two men were fit, had short hair and sport shirts - typical Shin Bet agents, working for Israel's domestic General Security Service (GSS).
Only one spoke, the other observed. He began by saying he was from Shin Bet and asked me if I knew why the Shin Bet was interested in the ISM.
I replied, saying that their interest was misplaced, because the ISM supports nonviolent Palestinian resistance, and there should be no reason for Israel to oppose that.
He laughed and said that the Palestinians might be nonviolent by day and violent by night.
Then he started on the internationals, mentioning two incidents from 2003 that have been badly distorted and are often used by Israeli authorities to slander the ISM.
He brought up the arrest of a "wanted" man in the ISM apartment in Jenin and the two British suicide bombers, people who had absolutely no connection with the ISM.
He didn't seem interested in listening to my response (for details on these two incidents see www.palsolidarity.org at the frequently-asked questions sections).
Instead, he had read my affidavit to the court in 2003 from my appeal of my denial of entry, and he claimed it said that I had participated in violent demonstrations.
I responded that he had misread my affidavit, because it said clearly that I have participated in peaceful demonstrations that had been met with violence by the Israeli military.
I also told him that if the "secret evidence" against me were revealed, it would not stand up to scrutiny.
He asked me if I had ever carried correspondence for "wanted men", helped wanted men to move about, or given my passport for someone else to use.
He asked if I had ever hit a soldier or thrown stones. He asked if I had ever received weapons or arms training. I answered with indignant 'No's, reiterating that I was a nonviolent activist.
"Maybe you are a real peace activist," he said,
"but can you guarantee that others are?"
I told him that ISM requires all activists to commit to the use of strictly nonviolent means.
He asked me for names of Palestinians working with the ISM. I told him that I was sure he had other sources of information and that I would not give him any information. He also asked me if I was familiar with Israeli peace activist Tali Fahima (jailed and accused of being in contact with "wanted" men from Jenin) and whether I had met Zakaria Zbedi (The head of the Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades in Jenin). "While I have heard of both," I said, "I have met neither."
The interview ended and I was returned shackled to my cell.
There are issues I was afraid to discuss frankly
my interrogation - issues relating to Israeli violence, Israeli double standards, international law
and the arrest of Tali Fahima.
The Shin Bet agents are in a position of power over me as I sit in an Israeli prison.
I know they may distort and manipulate things I say to punish me and achieve their goal of damaging the ISM.
However, the inequality of power and threat of punishment is far less for me than it is for a Palestinian who goes through interrogation. I have governments, which will support me and prevent the worst abuses.
I can afford a good lawyer, who I will be given access to. I have a strong support group and access to the media.
I will also leave here and will not continue to live under Israeli control.Over and over again we have seen that the
international community will not protect Palestinians from Israeli abuses.
They can be imprisoned arbitrarily and tortured.
They are often denied access to lawyers, their homes, lands and their jobs. Freedom of movement can be taken away, and their families are threatened with the same punishments.
The media will not cover their story. Nor do Palestinians have an option to escape Israeli domination.
Power and threats mean
that Shin Bet interrogations of Palestinians
produces incomplete and twisted information.
What disturbed me most about my interrogation by the Shin Bet agent, was his seeming certainty about his information. Not only do the Israeli authorities produce propaganda about the Occupation and about the ISM, but some of them appear to believe it themselves.
The Shin Bet also seems to aim to intimidate by giving the appearance of being all knowing, but their "intelligence" is obviously flawed.
Israeli intelligence is generated from collaborators, surveillance, and interrogation!
It serves the corrupt and corrupting goals of continued military occupation, land seizure, domination and manipulation.
Israeli intelligence treats all forms of opposition as a threat to be eliminated.
It labels all Palestinians as 'terrorists' and all Israelis and internationals who work with them as 'collaborators with terrorism'.
This produces a distorted characterization of Palestinian society, lacking direct experience with normal Palestinians and failing to recognise Palestinians are people with rights and aspirations.
The Shin Bet agent called me 'naive', but I think he is naive for believing that he can understand Palestinian society from a position of domination and inequality, and somehow use that understanding to control and manipulate Palestinians to eliminate all opposition to the Occupation.
Pat O'Connor has worked for Save the Children
and has managed humanitarian aid programs
in the Middle East and Africa,
and volunteered with the International Solidarity Movement in the West Bank
supporting non-violent Palestinian protest
against the Wall.
He is currently in detention at Maasiyahu prison
in Ramle awaiting deportation
Posted by: Dr. Shepard at February 03, 2005 04:43 PM (D3TC8)
January 28, 2005
D.C. Trip Planning Woes
Sorry for the absence today, folks. I'm busy throwing together a student trip to Washington, DC. The problem is that I can't find a place at a reasonable price with enough rooms!! The hotel also needs to be near a Metro stop. I'll be in DC from May 14th to the 22nd.
Any ideas out there?
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You're heading a student trip?
Sucker!
Obviusly, I'm of no help whatsoever.
Posted by: ccwbass at January 28, 2005 03:07 PM (ruJga)
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The YMCA!
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at January 28, 2005 03:53 PM (x+5JB)
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I know you can get yourself clean and have a good time...but I hear that no matter what your sexual orientation you check in with, you check out gay.
Posted by: Rusty at January 28, 2005 03:56 PM (JQjhA)
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Might want to try something out on the end of the Metro lines in VA... hotels will be cheaper and easier to come by. Your student trip happens to fall in the span of college graduations, which means that rooms in DC will be tough to come by.
Posted by: Wine-aholic at January 28, 2005 04:02 PM (Wsn+K)
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Was thinking the same thing...either Maryland or VA would be your best bet...staying in Washington is worse than staying in NYC, price wise.
Posted by: Laura at January 28, 2005 04:42 PM (ptOpl)
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There's a homeless shelter right near the Capitol building.
Posted by: Leopold Stotch at January 28, 2005 05:07 PM (tiIXu)
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Try the Holiday Inn by the zoo...rather appropriate for you and some college students...?
Posted by: Mr. K at January 28, 2005 05:26 PM (zun7D)
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Do your students even know where DC is?
Posted by: Bill Dautrive at January 28, 2005 05:52 PM (G95Uf)
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Holiday Inn at 87XX Georgia Ave., in Silver Spring, MD. It's five minutes to the Silver Spring Metro stop, has restaurants and movie theaters (and a mall) equally close. About ten block north of the DC line.
During rush hour, it's about 15 minutes to Union Station, just north of the Capitol, on the Red line.
If they don't have room, look in VA, along the Blue, Green, or Orange lines, from Rossyln, Fall Church, Ballston, Dun Loring, Alexandria, Pentagon City, Crystal City, etc. A look at a Metro map can give you a good starting point. Of course you don't want to be so far out that you've got a 45-minute commute on both ends.
Posted by: John B at January 28, 2005 09:20 PM (IuAUA)
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You might try calling Marion Barry. I understand he always has vacant properties available and you get to stay for free if you agree to hand out these little viles through the mail slot intermittently throughout the day.
Posted by: Dan at January 28, 2005 10:08 PM (Qmjje)
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As is the custom of Islam, you are welcome to stay at the hostel of my brother Muslim Abdul Shaheed Kareem Hakim Abu Musab Zayeed Rahman Moomar Ibn Ibd Etc Soforth. It is called the Intifada Inn. Look for the hands holding the crossed swords over the driveway. Peace, my brother, we mean you know harm, you are one of the People Of The Book. Just do not forget to pay the Jizya.
Posted by: The Ayatollah Assahola at January 28, 2005 11:56 PM (lK7Sh)
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The Red Roof in Chinatown (around 5th & E) NW is clean, comfortable and close to a Metro. It's also within walking distance of the Mall. I've stayed in a lot of Red Roofs over the years for dog shows and like them a lot more than many other inexpensive motel chains. I've stayed in the NW DC one several times with good results.
Posted by: Robin Burk at January 29, 2005 08:31 AM (BUB+w)
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A man with your political orientation might be able to stay at the White House, Yes?
Posted by: ZuDfunck's Sampler at January 29, 2005 09:24 AM (xfxCX)
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DC Hostile. Cheap, maybe too cheap?
http://www.washingtondchostel.com/
Posted by: Rayne Steinberg at January 29, 2005 02:34 PM (xYekm)
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As is the custom of Islam, you are welcome to stay at the hostel of my brother Muslim Abdul Shaheed Kareem Hakim Abu Musab Zayeed Rahman Moomar Ibn Ibd Etc Soforth. It is called the Intifada Inn. Look for the hands holding the crossed swords over the driveway. Peace, my brother, we mean you know harm, you are one of the People Of The Book. Just do not forget to pay the Jizya.
heh
Posted by: lune at January 30, 2005 02:17 AM (xJkmr)
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We had to stay at the 4-H Club. It's not that bad...not a hotel, but very clean.
Posted by: Katie at January 30, 2005 09:32 AM (/U19w)
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Far be it from me to be generous with other people's homes, but INDC Bill is in the neigborhood. Perhaps he wouldn't mind you crashin' the joint.
Posted by: Gordon at January 30, 2005 01:16 PM (dEFhD)
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Since everybody else seems to be recommending crack houses, whore houses, or Marion Barry's house (guess that's the same thing eh?) I'll give you some substantive advice, and unfortunately I know this because my Mother has been hounding me to make reservations for my Graduation at that same time. Holiday Inn on 15th & Rhode Island is $150 a night and is about 4 blocks from the Metro. A little far depending on how many students want to sleep with you...I mean visit with you but everything else seems to be running $250. Courtyard Marriot downtown right by the convention center was $180. Think it's right near Gallery Place so that's good. Please tell me you aren't coming to "see the Cherry Blossoms." The whole Cherry blossom thing is overrated and frankly kind of dirty.
Posted by: Wittysexkitten at January 30, 2005 02:10 PM (DNyiA)
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You can all come and stay at my house if you want, provided the kids don't mind doing a little yardwork.
Posted by: Robert the Llama Butcher at January 31, 2005 01:31 PM (XBUdh)
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Right now I'm booked at the Hilton downtown. We're looking at $150 a night. I'd like to find something for like $100 a night if possible.
FYI-I'm not looking for a room for ME, I have an open invite at INDC Bill's mom's house ;-)
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at January 31, 2005 01:57 PM (JQjhA)
What?
No, seriously. I see a lot fairly baffling stuff on the internet, but this one I just don't get.
Watch it and tell me.
LINK FIXED more...
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BRD cant get any of what seem to be your links to work! WHAT?
Posted by: Rod Stanton at January 28, 2005 12:27 PM (IcheV)
Posted by: MDP at January 28, 2005 01:04 PM (u0mCA)
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Will one of y'all do me a favor and watch this damn thing in the next 7 days. I think that will break the curse hanging over my head.
Posted by: Brad at January 28, 2005 01:04 PM (1L+Bq)
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Looks like viral marketing for the sequel to "The Ring."
Posted by: Eric at January 28, 2005 01:05 PM (hrQvk)
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Its for the sequel to The Ring which is due out in theaters soon. I just saw a preview for it in the theater last week.
Posted by: Rob at January 28, 2005 01:19 PM (fcqpB)
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OK BRD now I can comment. It is an add for a movie. Similar to several now playing or soon to play ie "the Boogy Man"
If I am not here in Feb its because Im dead. I said that a lot 38 years ago only I had visions of dying then.
Posted by: Rod Stanton at January 28, 2005 02:10 PM (IcheV)
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That's the latest Paris Hilton video wherein she descends through the second circle of hell and has a three way with Cleopatra and the Marques De Sade, because, actually, there's very little else the poor dear hasn't done and captured on video. A career is SUCH a delicate thing to keep moving forward nowdays.
Posted by: Dan at January 28, 2005 10:25 PM (Qmjje)
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It is tha Jooooooooooooooozzzzzzz and they r kelling YOU wun by wun with they're Nazi akkipation of the Word Bank and Gauze Strip! And thyre taking ovur Irak with electiuns and they own Chimby Shrub N Dirk hellaburton Cheeney in his parker at Owshwitz cuz he was ORDERED thayre by WolfOwits who is jooish.
Posted by: The Incompetent Troll at January 29, 2005 12:04 AM (lK7Sh)
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Yup. It's definitely related to the American version of The Ring
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0298130/ so presumably viral marketing for a forthcoming sequel as there were 3 in the Japanese series.
In The Ring, there was a video (which was all of what you saw).
Anyone who watched it died 7 days later. The movie is about a journalist who is covering the story (and basically has 7 days to do it).
I know a lot of people say the Japanese original was better but I found the American version more terrifying as it's hard to get scared from reading subtitles.
Watching that thing gave me shivers again.
Posted by: Indy Media Watch at January 29, 2005 03:00 AM (fJP+2)
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Well, at least you won't die now that you've passed it on.
Posted by: EC at January 29, 2005 03:17 PM (yYGP5)
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The Ring? Isnt that the movie about that mean little girl in the well? That movie wasnt scary at all. In fact i thought she was kinda hot.
Young and wet- thats the way i like 'em.
Posted by: atomic_amish at January 29, 2005 08:07 PM (5dhtz)
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Today our brave, courageous, wonderful president is God. The elections in Iraq are a success. Twenty two nations in the Arab league and Iraq will soon be the only one that has the ability to hold its government responsible. Hail Bush.
Kennedy the killer. Dean the madman and Kerry the traitor are finished. Clinton is to be pissed on forever more. The cowardly french frogs can no longer claim they are right. Left wing blogs are silent tonight. The Germans will soon realize they should have stood by America. The UN (ugh) will wish to be envolved. How can they not? Now that the majority of Iraqis have spoken.
America and Great (for a reason) Briton have won. Iraqis will have freedom. Zawqawi is shit. Bin laden is hiding, probably dressed in a Beka.
Iranian asshole clerics your turn to fear. Your own youth will throw you out. This is the beginning of the end for your cruel, stupid ways.
Syria, quake in your boots. Very soon your time will come. No longer will you be allowed to support the so called insurgency. Soon you will feel freedoms boot on your ass.
This is the greatest day in the history of the middle east. The beginning of democracy.
Terrorist assholes, what was the point of you killing innocent citizens? Attacking unarmed people at voting stations. Old ladies, children, Why? How did you gain anything? Just the last gasp of a dying insurgency. Nothing more. You lost, so you kill people. Now do something useful while we hunt you down. That way, maybe we will be merciful. Run to Mosul. We will see you there.
Posted by: greyrooster at January 30, 2005 08:20 PM (gvOyZ)
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I minimized the window & listened to it with the volume low. I anticipated something similiar to that damned lich woman whose face fills up the damned screen. I'm about ready to die anyway, so I won't be passing it on. If for some reason I don't die in 7 days (having found some weird audio-only loophole), I'll be back.
Oh, "what" was right! It even sounds scary.
Posted by: Ivory Troll at January 30, 2005 10:52 PM (eF/et)
January 27, 2005
Muslim Studen Union celebrates the liberation of Auschwitz at my alma mater
In case your wondering, my alma mater won the NCAA football championship this year....Via Mere Rhetoric:
holocust schmolocost.....and
that whole thing drives me nuts.
there arent that many holicost surviviers.
most of those guys havent experienced anything -- except possibly excess. its a tool the zionists use... but to be honest wonder how effective it is these days.
Just thought id contribute its fun reading about the holohoax. it probably happened but 6mil is a lot i think the figure was much smaller and yes i think its possible to fabricate such a story. the jews are masters at this and congrats to them for being able to do so. not only do they claim sole bearers to the "anti-semetic" crimes, but they are able to live of reparations forever. smart idea dont you think?Ah, to be young and in graduate school again so I could pop one of these guys in the mouth.
On a paranthetical note, on 9/12/01 I was in a class and we were discussing the events of the previous day. I made the comment that the "Islamist extremists are every bit as dangerous as the Nazis." The Professor's eyes went buggy and he (literally) screamed at me to shut up.
Funny, he never flinched when students would call George Bush a Nazi. (ht: Charles Johnson)
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I have several relatives that are full Prof (including one dept Chm) at big name U's in Cal. They went through the inverviewing process professing no love of America. One of them even after many years keeps his patriotic feelings to himself on campus or at staff parties. My sister (his wife) sometimes gives some party goers what for when they bad mouth America which causes a great deal of embarassment for my brother-in-law. The others are also tenured and feel a little more comfortabel to stand up for America, but in a diplomatic way. But they all are sure they would never have been hired if they had expressed their patriotic feelings at the start.
The point of the above is that universities have for at least 50 years screened out patriotic Americans from their faculties; even though like Rathergate they deny bias.
Posted by: Rod Stanton at January 27, 2005 04:45 PM (IcheV)
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I came to this site just now and I intend never to return again. Wanna know why? Because the holocaust DID happen, and 6 million WERE MURDERED. My people. You'll never understand. Read the stories, hear the survivors, see the pictures of naked women being shot and babies thrown onto electrified wires, and then dare to say the Holocaust is hyped. You're sick. Whole towns were wiped out, thriving Jewish life knocked out, lawyers, doctors, scholars, peasants, everyone. The Nazis didnt discriminate. religious or not, young or old, powerful or poor-you're a gonner. On average 3000 Jews died every day.
The Nazis has special squads, einsztrguppen or something like that, whose specific task was to go around countries and just mass murder Jews. The locals willingly assisted. They lined up a few hundred, made them dig their own graves, then just shot them all. THERE WERE CRACK SS SQUADS WHOSE SOLE JOBS WERE TO KILL JEWS. Originally, the Nazis has mobile truck gas chambers. However, it wasnt "efficient" enough for the perfectionist Nazis, as it only killed a few at a time. So they built permanent gas chamber structures. 6-7 just at auschwitz. Upon arrival, Jews were told they were having showers and they were all forced to go naked. Then they were taken to the gas chambers, who had spouts to make it look like showers, locked in and poisonous gas released. Hundreds died in minutes. Then they were taken by the ******** Nazis to the crematoriums, where their bodies were burned, and the smoke from these places of death was seen for miles while the horrific stench of death was everywhere. the Nazis had no mercy. It is said that Auscwitz is an evil place, that no birds or any living things fly over there. There is a profound silence. There are many amazing stories of the Holocaust, miracles etc. Howver the horrific suffering of that 6 million will not go unpunished. G-d will certainly exact 1000 times vengeance for their spilled blood. Just think for a minute, 6 million men women and children, of whom there were more than 1.5m killed, wher murdered for NO CRIME EXCEPT BEING BORN JEWISH. I have seen identity papers of 1 year old babies, who were killed by these devils. I recommend that for you to mend your ways and appreciate the devastation and sheer scale, you take a visit to Aushwitz-see the hell on earth for yourself, the whole chambers piled high with human hair, extracted gold teeth, peoples single suitcases. You will be sorry you ever made your sick comments.thank You
Posted by: me at January 27, 2005 05:23 PM (Ak8mQ)
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hey, Me, maybe you ought to take a zanax and read the post again.
Posted by: Mr. K at January 27, 2005 05:26 PM (2ym4b)
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I stand corrected, in my foolish haste, I acted irrationly and did not read the article fully. please accept my apologies. However, what I wrote should definately be told to those Muslim students.
Posted by: me at January 27, 2005 05:30 PM (Ak8mQ)
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well now that you have calmed down, read this, more on one of my favorite subject: weenie ass eunuch college professor dingle shits who really should get the fuck out of this country:
http://www.qando.net/details.aspx?Entry=980
Posted by: Mr. K at January 27, 2005 05:36 PM (2ym4b)
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Nice blog you have-mine is http://spaces.msn.com/members/onews
Posted by: me at January 27, 2005 05:43 PM (Ak8mQ)
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I can't for the life of me, understand how all that shit went on, and our leaders chose to ignore it, or as they've said, didn't know it was happening!!!!!!!
What the terrorists are doing today is NOTHING compared to what went on at Auschwitz, not that it is any less gruesome, just smaller scale, in that they are not killing masses, thank God.
Did anyone ever try to assasinate Hitler? I mean, come on, did his peons really think that what they were doing was right?
"I just followed orders" my ass.
Posted by: Laura at January 27, 2005 05:49 PM (ptOpl)
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yes, laura, some of the officers in the german military did try to nail Hitler. I believe Erwin Rommel, one of the best of his generals, was implicated in the plot and killed himself.
Posted by: Mr. K at January 27, 2005 05:51 PM (ms+b/)
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hey, Me, your blog has that cool photo thingy...is that free? I have been wanting to post some pics on my blog...but that reminded me of this site, which my nephew, who it looks like is heading into the Navy, sent me:
http://www.grouchymedia.com/index.cfm
Posted by: Mr. K at January 27, 2005 05:55 PM (ms+b/)
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They didn't try hard enough!
Posted by: Laura at January 27, 2005 05:58 PM (ptOpl)
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Sure! The pictures are free for all to take. My site is http://spaces.msn.com/members/onews .
ps. 100% true Laura
Mr K, Rommel may have tried to assasinate Hitler, but that doesnt make him good. He did it because he knew they would lose the war. I'm sure he was up there with the rest of them in sheer evilness.
Posted by: Me at January 27, 2005 05:58 PM (Ak8mQ)
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Me: don't be so sure. There was a big difference between regular wermacht and ss...regardless, there is a strong parallel between the anti-semitism of the Nazis and that of the Arab world.
In my own over-simplified view, a delusional arab invented a religion and chased most of the jews out of palestine. Many of these ended up in Europe. After the German beating in WWI, many in Germany blamed a jew conspiracy for the defeat...add to this that Britain had acquired Palestine from the Turks in that same war...and also had envisioned the zionist movement, so now there was a possibility to create a jewish homeland...then Hitler came along with his hideous agenda and more jews flooded into palestine...and now here we are...the propaganda from the arab world is very much like that used by Hitler.
Posted by: Mr. K at January 27, 2005 06:11 PM (YYTA7)
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Kudos to "ME" for stepping up like a man and admitting he was wrong, above, we need for folks with that attitude :-)
Posted by: Lucius Severus Pertinax at January 27, 2005 08:50 PM (grMvH)
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'The Professor's eyes went buggy and he (literally) screamed at me to shut up.' OK, and THEN what happened? This could be a good story!
AND, who is this guy? What is his name? It would be interesting to Google his ass and see what other academic enormities he has committed!
Posted by: Lucius Severus Pertinax at January 27, 2005 09:08 PM (grMvH)
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Lucius,
Since I blog anonymously, that wouldn't exactly be in my own self-interest. What happened next was I shut up. He was the Prof, after all, and I was the TA.
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at January 27, 2005 09:35 PM (JQjhA)
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ah! I see! ~( 8(o) DOH!
Posted by: Lucius Severus Pertinax at January 27, 2005 10:03 PM (grMvH)
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3 cheers for ME:
Posted by: greyrooster at January 28, 2005 06:53 AM (To5gU)
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I am a really good liar. And I don't really care about what I lie about... I am really a modern day Obi Wan Kenobi or something. But I think what it would take to create a "holohoax," and I can say that no matter how much the International Joooo Banking Conspiracy controls us, pulling off a lie of this magnitude would be pretty damn impossible. And that is why I believe the Holocaust did occur.
Well, that and the Wansee Conference. And, like, the photos of the American liberation and stuff. Oh yeah, and the people that disappeared.
Now that I think about it, you have to be a pretty big dipshit not to jump on this bandwagon. I guess the cool kids aren't in the Muslim Student Union.
Posted by: Wine-aholic at January 28, 2005 09:08 AM (Wsn+K)
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Hey anyone see "Dirty War" on HBO last night? Pretty intriguing and scary story about London getting hit by suicide bombers in a van, then radiation spreads throughout the town.
I didn't like the ending...it just kinda ended, with no solution.
Posted by: Laura at January 28, 2005 09:10 AM (ptOpl)
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Laura and all else,
This is a different war than World War II and Hitler. This one is under constant scrutiny not only by us but by the media, especially the embedded media (although they don't make me very happy either)but back then, it wasn't that simple. By the time other Europeans knew something, it was by letter. Not today. The internet has changed that and if we had embedded media and the internet during that horrible war with it's horrible, sickening, heartbreaking acts, it may not have happened at all but we can't compare the two; there's a world of diffferences between them.
As for professors and whatnot hiding their American love, they should not be hired for any reason. You can still teach and show both sides but that does not mean you give up your love for your own country and any college, grad school, whatever that practices such bias should not even exist in our society today - for it's all WRONG. This kind of shit makes me sick to my stomach. Maybe we should start boycotting our own colleges that practice this kind of bias.
Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at January 28, 2005 10:48 AM (D39Vm)
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I like ol' "me". He/she get's pretty darn intense.
Posted by: EC at January 28, 2005 11:22 AM (yYGP5)
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But seriously. Of course the holocaust happened, but modern Jews see little to no reprocussions from it. They have taken something that was a tragedy and turned it into their own gain. Nobody say anything about the Jews because there was a holocaust. So what. They probably gouged prices when they found out that their brothers were fleeing the holocaust. That is their attitude. Poor, poor us. Sudan doesn't matter to Jews because it means the holocaust wasn't a singular tragedy for them to raise hell about. It is stupid to blame the Jews for everything, but they do take the holocaust too far and complain about it too much.
Posted by: Johnny at January 28, 2005 12:02 PM (cp2CN)
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"but they do take the holocaust too far and complain about it too much."
What the fuck is that supposed to mean? An organized attempt to exterminate their religion, and you're criticizing them for "complaining about it too much?" You must think the war on terror is completely overblown since "only a few thousand" died on 9/11.
Posted by: Venom at January 28, 2005 12:08 PM (dbxVM)
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9/11 was less than 4 years ago; the holocaust was 50. We still feel the effects of it: gas prices, economy, etc. They do not. At some point you just need to shed the victims mentality. We know it happened and don't need to be reminded of it every five minutes when there are things going on present day just as bad that we still have a chance to rectify. Just shut up about it. It was 50 years ago. You are not personally effected. Nobody can do anything about it now. Just stop complaining and deal with current problems.
Posted by: Johnny at January 28, 2005 12:33 PM (cp2CN)
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Commemorating it is not really "complaining" about it. Now, I'm not Jewish, and I bet you aren't either. So, maybe we're not the right people to comment on it. But, I can tell you that Jewish people view the Holocaust as much a part of their religious identity as the Exodus and Hanukah. I don't see remembering it as being all that detrimental to either your life or mine.
By the way, the Holocaust was 60-65 years ago.
Posted by: Venom at January 28, 2005 12:40 PM (dbxVM)
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WTF are you on about, Johnny? Do you think we like to hear the blacks complain about slavery even though THAT happened WAY before the holocaust???? Big fucking difference. When MLK started his speeeches, the blacks rioted all over the big cities, like NYC, Chicago, Watts, LA, etc. They wanted their civil rights but they sure didn't go about it civilly. Many of my friends' parents got their heads bashed in by angry blacks rioting in the downtown streets of NYC's finest department stores. It was a mess.
Blame, blame, blame for what our forefathers did to them 200 years ago....want handouts because they were so violated.
Now, the Holocaust is NOT to be compared to the race riots! People were slain only for the fact that they were JEWS and nothing else! They probably would have loved to have been a slave, then suffer the atrocities they got at Auschwitz!!
I don't see any Jews rioting in the streets saying they were wronged, do you? So, they show a few documentaries about it every now and then. So what? Why does mentioning that it happened bother you? Besides, they are memorializing those that suffered as it's the 60th anniversary of the closing of the camps. Why can't they have a remembrance? No one should ever forget what happened and I don't give a shit how many times they bring it up!
Unless you're German, of course, and feel a twinge of guilt, perhaps?
Posted by: Laura at January 28, 2005 03:07 PM (ptOpl)
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Blacks are still sufferring for wrongs committed during slavery and segregation. A quick look at the education and poverty gaps will tell you that. They still have many reasons to carry on. Jews don't. There are few who still suffer the reprocussions of the holocaust. The holocaust has become an excuse to extort aid and sympathy from the rest of the world. How many billions of dollars have we spent helping them hold Israel? How many lives are lost because of the anti-Americanism developed through mindless devotion to an Israel we installed because we felt bad because of the holocaust. Not that that is the fault of the Jews, but it is an effect of our sympathy. After we give them land that is not theirs, protect them in every way, they still complain. The holocaust is not their fault, but what has happened to us recently is a product of their clever manipulation of the western world through means of a guilt complex over the holocaust. I mean, if you have the opportunity to get what you want from someone easily, with no cost to yourself, why not? They are playing us to the tune of the holocaust.
Posted by: Johnny at January 28, 2005 03:37 PM (cp2CN)
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I don't think that we're friendly towards Israel out of guilt--we DO share certain core beliefs with them, as Christianity, for Christians, is the fruition of the Jewish faith.
Anyway, anyone that Bin Laden and company hate can't be that bad.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at January 28, 2005 03:59 PM (x+5JB)
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With the help of the NAACP, EEOC and affirmative action clauses, I'd say the pendulum has swung the OTHER WAY and is staying there! The blacks have no excuse not to better themselves. Over 80% of black children come from a single parent household, mostly single mothers. They keep having babies and getting more Food Stamps and welfare benefits.
With the EOE policies at big corporations, I'd say the odds are in their favor at getting the job solely on their color, rather than qualifications.
Case in point: my brother was refused admission to college because they found out he was Italian and not hispanic! My maiden name is a common name for both Italians and hispanics with one consonant being repeated for the Italian spelling, yet many mistook us for hispanics, and we were given more attention because companies and schools thought we were the minority!
Another situation: A doctor I once went to had an attorney friend who was afraid of firing a black employee, because she said if she was ever laid off, she'd pull the race card! So, it's cheaper for the lawyer to keep paying her 20,000 salary than risk a big lawsuit.
Ridiculous, isn't it? I'd say they got us hands down these days. WE are the minority now.
Posted by: Laura at January 28, 2005 04:51 PM (ptOpl)
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Since someone brought up blacks and slavery, lets all take some time to remember that a bunch of pansy assed Brits in powdered wigs did not rush into the wilds of Africa and round up slaves for sale on the market.
Many of the slave hunters/wholesalers were arab muslims, or black muslims. And the tradition of slavery in the muslim world continues to this day...which gives me the opporunity to say, Louis Farakhan is a complete fucking asshole, may his head explode some day soon.
Posted by: Mr. K at January 28, 2005 05:22 PM (zun7D)
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And I hope it explodes while it's inside Jesse Jackson's ass!
Posted by: Laura at January 28, 2005 06:37 PM (ptOpl)
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So, Laura, you're saying that you would rather be black and overcome poverty, dangerous streets, and absent parents than try to get a job as a majority member of society?
I think not.
Posted by: Johnny at January 28, 2005 06:55 PM (dz1ur)
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Johnny, your antiSemitism really belongs somewhere else. Like a Klan meeting. Or are you already there?
Six million dead - Please tell me how you can pull off a hoax to tune of 6 million deaths. Not to mention the gays, gypsies, handicapped, and others that were all slaughtered. Please, since you know so much, tell us how someone could have pulled this off? You can't. So why don't you take the time you've been using to spew hate and falsehoods and visit the National Holocaust Museum in Washington, D.C. or read a book like Elie Wiesel's "Night." Or watch the freaking History Channel. Go get informed.
Or keep being an ass. Whatever. Lucky you, you live in a time and a place where you get that choice.
Posted by: Maureen at January 28, 2005 08:46 PM (ny5O/)
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You are right Johnny, you think not at all...you simply ejaculate idiotic drivel
Posted by: Mr. K at January 29, 2005 07:19 AM (3KZB/)
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Obviously, Maureen, you do not understand what I say. go back and actually read the posts instead of just the first line.
Posted by: Johnny at January 29, 2005 11:02 PM (RUHY2)
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If I'm held responsible for slavery, I want one. Why should I pay for something my great, great, great granddaddy did? I didn't know him and he didn't leave me shit.
The holocaust was real. I'm convinced of that. The Romans destroyed Carthage. The huns and mongels destroyed entire populations, often killing every man, women and child in a city. Do Italians, Mongols, Hungarian, Germans need to be reminded everyday? How long before it is put to rest?
Does it help anything? My own Nordic ancestors slaughtered many different people. Am I responsible? I don't think so. Unless it's in a good movie, like the Vikings, I don't want to hear it. It's over with. Let it die.
The Germans had their nation destroyed because of their behavior. Something tells me they are not proud of it. The question should be, does constantly reminding the German people create good will or bad will? Germany has a way of making tremendous comebacks. They are once again a world power. Wonder what young Germans today think? Would they not back us in a war in Iraq due to an underlying reason like Israel? Don't know, don't care but I did sell my German car.
To JOHNNY: Please learn that if you say what you feel about anyone except a white man, you are automatically branded a racist. We have liberal, small minded, academic nerds that have been educated in closets. They have been conditioned to attacking anyone who doesn't have their ridiculous agenda. Their agenda is to drop their britches and bend over to everyone who isn't a white Anglo/Saxon type. I believe Venom's domestic partner is a black raghead.
Posted by: greyrooster at January 30, 2005 08:47 AM (gvOyZ)
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JOHNNY: By the way. I'm not saying I completely agree with you. You have the right to think and write as you please. It's the AMERICAN way. My point is telling it like it is, whether the true or not, will bring attacks on your intelligence. Some of our bloggers here are Jewish. They are extremely protective. For good reason I might add.
I would like to add that yes America has suffered due to Israel. Americans have been killed because of our association with Israel. We have spent hundreds of billions of our dollars as a direct result of our association with Israel. Many nations and peoples hate us because of our association with Israel.
The question is ARE WE DOING THE RIGHT THING. Standing by and letting millions of people be slaughtered again is not my way. Yours either I would guess.
However, you have spoken. You will now be accused of Racism and genocide. Welcome to the club. Liberal nutso's beware. Our club is growing and you're the reason.
Got to go now. Have to cut wood for tonights bombfire. We've made an effigy of VENOM bent over with a camel humping him. Going to set it afire after the dogs piss on it. Hey Ma, where's my sheet?
Posted by: greyrooster at January 30, 2005 09:28 AM (gvOyZ)
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Greyrooster:
Please tell me, did our Nordic ancestors also set up mass production factories specifically to eliminate one ethnic group, and others that did not meet our criteria for the perfect race? Did the huns and the mongols also set up these sorts of facilities?
Did these same groups also conduct a wide variety of cruel experiments on living human beings?
The reason I think we need to never forget the holocaust is that while it was ongoing, and the Germans were gearing up for it, the rest of the world that could do a damn thing about it was in denial. As a result, many, many millions were killed not only in the concentration camps but also in World War 2. Remember Neville Chamberlain, "Peace in our time" he said, then the Nazis rolled through Poland.
You remember things like the holocaust in the hopes that history won't repeat itself, not to stick someone's nose in it for eternity.
Those who were in denial are essentially the same groups who proclaim the US is an evil empire because it is almost single handedly combating the same sort of hatred, only this time the banner is carried by Islamofascists instead of Nazis.
Posted by: Mr. K at January 30, 2005 12:52 PM (gwxfq)
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MR K: While I agree with much/most of what you say. I still believe constantly rehashing the issue doesn't make allies for Israel. Islamics hate Jews every bit as much as the Nazis ever did. The difference, the Jews can kick the muslim's asses. As you say, the world sat by then and they are sitting by now. Proof in itself that reminding people/nations of past horrors doesn't have the needed reaction.
No Mr. K, I'm proud to say our ancestors only wanted the women and the money. Ah, for the good ole days.
For the record, Thor could whip mohammeds ass any day.
Posted by: greyrooster at January 30, 2005 04:25 PM (gvOyZ)
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No, rehashing the holocaust doesn't create allies for the Jews, but neither does it solve this problem elsewhere in the world. Jews should be the first ones in the Sudan, where, not only is a holocaust-like problem going on, but it is being performed by the hated Arabs. Instead, they look and say, "The holocaust was much worse," and go about their business. Basically, they either need to drop the subject or back their words up by actions in other parts of the world.
Posted by: Johnny at January 30, 2005 04:50 PM (RUHY2)
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well, we agree on one thing...maybe its a deep rooted genetic yearning...yes, the good ole days!
Posted by: Mr. K at January 30, 2005 04:52 PM (b1Q+0)
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I'm fixing to go beserk any minute. Any muslims in the neighborhood.
Posted by: greyrooster at January 30, 2005 05:31 PM (gvOyZ)
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Come on JOHNNY: How can Israel send troops across Africa? They need every soldier they can muster just to exist. They're surrounded by enemy countries. How can they take on more?
I mean they can and have kicked the shit out of the muslims but numbers do count.
Hey! I just thought of something. Shit, when I went to high school none of the Jewish guys could fight. I mean these little shits were easy. Couldn't play basketball, football or win the big fight after the football game. WHAT DOES THAT SAY FOR THE muslims?
Posted by: greyrooster at January 30, 2005 05:42 PM (gvOyZ)
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Mr. Greyrooster you are right. Israel has its hands full, but there are Jews everywhere in other parts of the world. They control the major movie studios, Harvey Weinstein, Jefferey Katzenburg, etc. They are prominent actors, Adam Sandler, William Shatner, etc. And politicians, Joe Liebermann. They have the power to publicize racial and religious atrocities in the world and pressure other governments to take action. As brother of victims of the holocaust they should feel a particular empathy for people being wronged in that manner. Yet mention Sudan and they invariably say it is nothing compared to the holocaust and dismiss it offhand. They inevitably make it all about them when they could and should use the fact that it was once about them to make the world see that it is now happenning to others.
Posted by: Johnny at January 30, 2005 09:30 PM (RUHY2)
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JOHNNY: Power to pressure other governments? Shit the United States couldn't do it. How would a few wealthy Jews come out?
We will agree to disagree on the Sudan thing. Personally I don't think the US should be there either. There is no present or near future threat to us. If we solve their internal difficulties, there will be more of them to hate us in the future. Feed em. Save em. Cure em. Then they multiply and theres more to hate us. Damn the truth hurts!! Worst of all they will want to come here so we can again, feed em, save em, cure em. Then they multiply on our welfare and vote to give em more. Ouch! I guess I get called a racist again. You know, Sudan is Black. If I were talking about a flood of Russians or Irish I wouldn't be racist. If we get involved it will be for one reason only. Islam.
One issue I would like address is Israel not having a part in Iraq. They have much more knowledge in handling terrorist shitheads. We could have used that experience. Additionally, why do they get a free ride when much of the hatred toward us is caused by our siding with them.
Mildly disturbing to me that you feel that the Jewish Americans are different than the rest of Americans. My race is not my country. I am Norweigan/Swedish by race. My loyalties are 100% American. All the people you mentioned are American. Do you feel they are different? Excluding Hasidics (they dress funny)and may be more Jewish than American. I don't know. Only one I ever met was the one that owns the stationary store on lower Broad Street in Manhattan. Dressed in black with jerry curls and a little masonic looking apron. Why should they be concerned about an Arab/black thing thats really none of their business. Let the do nothing assholes at the UN address the issue. That's what they are paid to do. That is if there's any money left after Kofi the clown mis- appropriates the majority of funds.
Have a good day. I am happy today. The elections in Iraq were a big defeat for the Islamofacists. If Kerry had been elected the election would have never taken place.
Posted by: greyrooster at January 31, 2005 06:41 AM (vehol)
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Yep, I'm happy too. But of course, the liberal media would have everyone believe otherwise. Whenever anything good happens, they always skip this on the reporting. The civilians are dancing in the streets and one lady said it was the most memorable day in history, besides the day we got Saddam.
But, the lib's will STILL keep chanting, "it was Bush's illegal invasion".
Yeah right, and let Saddam remain in power and kill hundreds of thousands more than WE ever have or ever will.
Posted by: Laura at January 31, 2005 04:20 PM (ptOpl)
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Watch the news today and MSN was interviewing a young Egyptian on the election in Iraq. He said the election was good and would without a doubt be the start of great things for the Arab world. Sadam was bad and it's good that he was removed. However. he didn't like the way Sadam was removed.
I've spent time thinking of this. Was there another way to remove Sadam? I wonder how this young Egyptian planned to do it. Assassination? More of a muslim thing. Keep bombing until we get lucky and get him? What was another way.
He was massing billions from the food for oil program. He had underground bunkers that went for miles. Weapons were pouring into the country from all sides. He had a terror organization to control the Iraqi people. He was the only candidate during elections. He had a mad dog muslim sect(Sunnies)100% on this team.
I believe the young Egyptian just didn't want to face the truth and give America/Bush any credit. How do you get through to a closed mind? I guess time is the answer. They have been raised on hate America, hate Bush, hate Christians, hate Israel propaganda so long they cannot muster the mental capabilities to question their reasoning. I thought this was exclusively a liberal democrat thing. You know, anything republican is bad when reality shows the other way around.
Posted by: greyrooster at February 01, 2005 11:26 AM (XC1Qx)
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I wonder why this is so? You watch CNN and get one perspective, usually lib-slanted, then you watch FOX and get another. Seems the media is divided...you are either one or the other. CNN never shows any "good" that is happening over in Iraq. Why are they so quick to cut us down?
And why are these countries taught to hate us? What the hell did we ever do to them?
Posted by: Laura at February 01, 2005 12:18 PM (ptOpl)
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I think this liberal, America is bad crept into our educational institutions in the 60's. They were taught just as Islamofacists are taught. Rebellion against anyone over 40 who didn't have a pony tail. Now those same students are in positions of power in the media.
Also in our educational institutions. That is, certain public supported institutions. Others still turn out leaders in business, technology, etc. You don't hear from these successful business types. They are too busy being productive. 95% of these leaders are republican.
Posted by: greyrooster at February 02, 2005 12:05 AM (D+Kmg)
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I agree with this. Suddenly, in the 60's, there were demonstrations on campuses galore--some no doubt fueled by drugs. Egalitarianism and a lack of respect for authority was, and in many ways, continues to be the order of the day. It has since trickled down to grade-school children
And we wonder why little kids today have no fear to talk back to their elders/teachers/parents.
O tempora! O mores!
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at February 02, 2005 07:27 AM (x+5JB)
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I'm ashamed to say that it may be a product of our own liberal society. I have two close friends that were born in other countries. One a Cuban who came to Miami. His son is now a Doctor in Miami. My friend owns a large boat building company. Is very successful. Why boats? His answer. If you ever crossed the Gulf on a intertube you would understand. His son and daughters were (still are) to most respectful kids you can imagine.
My other friend lives in Millbrae, Calif. A Greek immigrant who arrived here with $80.00 in his pocket. Again his son is a college grad in Real Estate. Best mannered young man you could dream of. It's yes sir, no sir all the way to his $90,000 Car. My friend Angelo owns blocks of apartments from South San Francisco to San Mateo, Calif. I could not guess his value.
My point is, it seems like they did a better job of raising their kids. Don't really know why. I think instilling respect at a very early age. Also teaching them the value of money.
This also leads me to TERRIBLE ECONOMY shouted by the democratic nutsos. If the economy was so terrible how did they gain the American dream so quick? I guess the economy is only bad for those without the will to pay the price for success.
Posted by: greyrooster at February 02, 2005 11:32 AM (GpysX)
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Yes--I love this country, but we can certainly all learn from some of the "Old World" attitudes about respect for tradition, elders, authority, etc., sadly lacking in many of today's people. Paradoxically, we as a country can be very puritanical (say, on public smoking) AND liberal (like on abortion) at the same time. The same for Europeans, but perhaps in DIFFERENT ways on some things.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at February 02, 2005 11:54 AM (x+5JB)
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YBP you hit the Nail on the head. We need to go back to "old school" ways. This BS going on now, if you hit your kid in public, they can report you to CPS. Tell that to my now departed Dad, who'd slap us silly if we misbehaved. Take one of his hard slaps, and you straightened up pretty quick.
Used to be if I got in trouble at school, I'd be shit scared to report it at home. Yet today, the teachers can't do SHIT or the kids will go home, tell their parents, and the parents will come to their rescue and tell the school off.
A little smacking around never hurt nobody. Sure kept us in line in my day.
Posted by: Laura at February 02, 2005 04:44 PM (ptOpl)
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Absolutely, Laura. All many kids talk about these days are their "rights," even if it means the right to elicit help in trying to kill a teacher on their web-site. (True story! Even the kid's parents claimed it was a freedom of speech issue. I cannot think of the story without remebering the last line from Bridge on the River Kwai--"Madness!")
My dad was known for his heavy hand as well--he didn't abuse us, but we surely knew right from wrong.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at February 02, 2005 04:51 PM (VPJmC)
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I've raised 5 kids. 3 of my own and 2 I just picked up at the start of their highschool years. No need to go into the reasons why. My families gain, their parents loss.
I must confess I never hit any while they were growing up. Never needed to. I did strike my son when he was 19. Hell I beat the shit out of him. He crossed the line and the shock of my attack brought him back to reality. Two black eyes, no car keys and no money for a few months will make one think. He then went on to graduate from college with a better than fair GPA. He is now a serving officer in the Marine Corps. He led his company into Fallujah. I was proud and scared at the same time. He has extended his tour. His reasoning. Doesn't wish to abandon his men.
Never spanked my kids. But would have. They knew it. Probably why I never had to. I've also never had a problem with them. Knock on wood. They were/are a pleasure to be with. 3 years ago I was in the hospital for 4 months. They drove 100 round trip every day to see me.
Unbelieveable huh. The girls even dragged their boyfriends with them.
My kids are my greatest success. No credit to wife of 30 years. Did it all by myself. Ha
Posted by: greyrooster at February 02, 2005 05:29 PM (GpysX)
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The pendulum has definitely swung the other way with all this "free speech" crapola! Call someone a "nigger" and you're a racist, but let a black go off about the whites, and it's "free speech"...funny, how the term means different things depending on which side of the mouth you're shooting from!
Like that asshole father in CA...wants to get the "under God" out of the Pledge...he has the "right" because it's freedom of speech....well, doesn't the other side have the right for it to remain in the Pledge? Worked ok since 1954, now all of a sudden, this jackass thinks it's not right?
Gay marriage thing too...all of a sudden, everyone wants to be legally married AND gay...I have no problem if that's the way you play, and I do feel that they should have the same rights as married people, such as power of attorney, medical issues, next of kin making decisions in the hospital, etc., give them the rights, but don't actually "marry" them. Marriage is, was, always should be between a man and a woman. Let them live together and give them the same rights.
We need to go back to the 40s and 50s morals again. Hell, even the turbulent 60s were no match for this day and age. I sure wouldn't want to be dating age again, what with HIV going around. In my day, you were afraid to get pregnant, now the kids are afraid to DIE.
Equal opportunity and affirmative action are a bunch of shit too. Now, we're the minority! I say if they have the QUALIFICATIONS and/or INTELLIGENCE, give them the job or admittance to college based on THAT AND THAT ONLY, not this "well, we need so many blacks, so many hispanics, let's give them a chance" shit.
Posted by: Laura at February 05, 2005 06:01 PM (ptOpl)
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Johnny, u r completely full of shit. Ever herd of "lest we forget?"
The jews are not complaining about it, and they are not trying to change it.
Do u really think that they belive that they can do something about what happened???
You are sitting here preaching about dealing with current problems, and that is excactly what they are doing. They are trying to prevent this from happening again, even on a smaller scale.
Making sure that people haven't died in vain. That good doesn't ALWAYS conquer evil.
You could learn a thing or two.
And Laura, jesus christ u r soooo upset about the jews who were murdered and u are acting just as rascist as the germans were.
Do u think this is what your people would have wanted to hear come out of your mouth???
"Black's" were not only being kept as slaves but they were being dragged along the street tied to the backs of cars and being scraped to death buy the roads. Stoned, skined alive.
quote, "They probably would have loved to have been a slave, then suffer the atrocities they got at Auschwitz!!"
yeah, and the "black's" probobly would have rather been gased than beaten and made to follow orderes.
I know I would.
I knew the americans were ignorant but damn....
Posted by: ash at February 13, 2005 04:17 AM (qLHzL)
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Johnny, u r completely full of shit. Ever herd of "lest we forget?"
The jews are not complaining about it, and they are not trying to change it.
Do u really think that they belive that they can do something about what happened???
You are sitting here preaching about dealing with current problems, and that is excactly what they are doing. They are trying to prevent this from happening again, even on a smaller scale.
Making sure that people haven't died in vain. That good doesn't ALWAYS conquer evil.
You could learn a thing or two.
And Laura, jesus christ u r soooo upset about the jews who were murdered and u are acting just as rascist as the germans were.
Do u think this is what your people would have wanted to hear come out of your mouth???
"Black's" were not only being kept as slaves but they were being dragged along the street tied to the backs of cars and being scraped to death buy the roads. Stoned, skined alive.
quote, "They probably would have loved to have been a slave, then suffer the atrocities they got at Auschwitz!!"
yeah, and the "black's" probobly would have rather been gased than beaten and made to follow orderes.
I know I would.
I knew the americans were ignorant but damn....
Posted by: ash at February 13, 2005 04:18 AM (qLHzL)
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Johnny, u r completely full of shit. Ever herd of "lest we forget?"
The jews are not complaining about it, and they are not trying to change it.
Do u really think that they belive that they can do something about what happened???
You are sitting here preaching about dealing with current problems, and that is excactly what they are doing. They are trying to prevent this from happening again, even on a smaller scale.
Making sure that people haven't died in vain. That good doesn't ALWAYS conquer evil.
You could learn a thing or two.
And Laura, jesus christ u r soooo upset about the jews who were murdered and u are acting just as rascist as the germans were.
Do u think this is what your people would have wanted to hear come out of your mouth???
"Black's" were not only being kept as slaves but they were being dragged along the street tied to the backs of cars and being scraped to death buy the roads. Stoned, skined alive.
quote, "They probably would have loved to have been a slave, then suffer the atrocities they got at Auschwitz!!"
yeah, and the "black's" probobly would have rather been gased than beaten and made to follow orderes.
I know I would.
I knew the americans were ignorant but damn....
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Iam so fucking pissed at these people. Wtf are u ppl talking about. Like common the Jews are killing the palestinians, THOUSANDS of them die everyday. And u ppl are still complaining about 9/11? The Americans are also killing up the Iraqis and ive seen sick magazines of them stripping them and playing with their balls, those sick faggots. Everytime one american dies everybody goes hyper and man, but then howcome none gets angry and upset when a palestinian or Iraqian is killed???
Posted by: Anwar at April 06, 2005 06:32 PM (lXf//)
No...
I have nothing left to say. Screw you guys, I'm going home.
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and fu-- you too!
Posted by: Rod Stanton at January 27, 2005 04:47 PM (IcheV)
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Gettin' kinda testy, eh?
Why you....
Posted by: Laura at January 27, 2005 05:00 PM (ptOpl)
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You're starting to sound a lot like me. I like it!
Posted by: EC at January 27, 2005 05:34 PM (yYGP5)
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Screw you....Home!
Posted by: Lucius Severus Pertinax at January 27, 2005 08:59 PM (grMvH)
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Yeah, get outta here ya lil pantywaste. Who needs ya? Eh? Eh?
Exactly!
Posted by: Christopher Cross at January 27, 2005 11:08 PM (vQst1)
Pele, Ronaldo, Ronaldinho Plea for Hostages
BBC:
Brazilian football star Ronaldo has made a televised plea for the release of a countryman kidnapped in Iraq [ Joao Jose Vasconcelos ]...Maybe we should get Brett Favre to do the same?"I hope they will show pity and let him return home to his family and friends."...
Ronaldo's fiancee and the hostage are from the same Brazilian state...
Barcelona midfielder Ronaldinho and Brazilian legend Pele are also preparing to record messages, reports say....
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Football in Iraq?
Posted by: greyrooster at January 28, 2005 06:55 AM (To5gU)
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anybody but Randy Mossad
Posted by: Ted at January 28, 2005 10:40 AM (blNMI)
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Why do we need sports figures to plead for our hostages? The American Muslem community has taken such a large role in the condemnatin of beheading that it is not necessary.I work about a mile from a Mosque in Seattle. The daily protests by the followers of Islam against beheading hostages are just about shutting down the city.
It sure feels good that these guys have our back.
Posted by: Brad at January 28, 2005 11:21 AM (1L+Bq)
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The Jihadis would be like "Brett whovre?" They play soccer in the mid east, so they would at least have a clue who Pele and Ronaldinho are.
Posted by: Dr_Funk at January 29, 2005 11:32 PM (Ytf+h)
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Brett Favre was raised a few miles from where I am sitting. Down in the Kiln, on monkey bayou. Sure is boring around he without him in the Super Bowl. We still have Payton Manning, but he didn't get there either. Maybe Eli soon. On the good side, look at all the crawfish whose lives were saved. Not many boils this super bowl Sunday.
Posted by: greyrooster at February 04, 2005 04:56 AM (n5v9Q)
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hola ronaldo soy de tu incha madame postal
Posted by: luis miguel at February 12, 2005 04:41 PM (96yBQ)
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Happy birthday to Ronaldinho,all gretings from Serbia and Montenegro.Ibrahim
Posted by: Ibrahim at March 21, 2005 05:34 AM (zGf5E)
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he will be released morrow the 27th as Easter gift
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i like ronaldo,because he play very well
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Ronaldinho N°1
http://www.websitemaker.kennisnet.nl/zuraldo10/index.htm
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hello my name is delijana ibrahimovic and i love ronaldinho he is verry verry goog at fottball
mvh:delijana
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hello
i will send my mesage for ronaldinho
help me
tanks you
by
Posted by: mehdi at July 27, 2005 03:44 PM (HKwS0)
Russians Kill 7 in Terror Raid
This is why Russia is our natural ally. AP:
Hundreds of security forces stormed an apartment building today in southern Russia, killing seven suspected Islamic extremists linked to Chechen rebels and ending a two-day standoff.Unfortunately, one of the bodies was that of a child. That some of the others were women means nothing to Chechen terrorists who don't discriminate on who will be the next martyr for Allah.Black smoke billowed from the building in Nalchik, the regional capital of the province of Kabardino-Balkariya, near Chechnya, as police and Interior Ministry troops fired automatic weapons and hurled grenades. The gunmen returned fire, wounding two police officers, the Interior Ministry said.
After a five-hour shootout, authorities found seven bodies, Interior Ministry spokesman Alexei Polyansky said.
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I agree. I sent a letter to the Rusan Ambassador the day after the school thing telling him I thought they sould find out who was involved. Then kill them, their wives, their kids, and their brother and sisters. I think they did not believe me, or were shocked. It took about a month to get a response that sounded bewildered. But I meant it!Going after little kids in their school! G-- Da-- them all to He--!
Posted by: Rod Stanton at January 27, 2005 04:54 PM (IcheV)
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Looks like the russians have the right idea in handling terrorists you go in and shoots em dead and never mind all this nagotation poppycock nonsense
Posted by: sandpiper at January 27, 2005 09:03 PM (OTnCQ)
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Dear sir
I read this post with some horror. Do you not know what is going on in Russia. If you do not then I suggest you read Ana Politskaya's book on Putin. But Putin via torture and random arrests is expanding the popularity of terrorism faster than anything else could, having used his policies not only Chechnya but Ingushtia is becoming a terrorist zone. He also uses terrorists to cover for frankly racist policies within Russia itself, where secular Chechens living peacefully in St Petersburg and Moscow are persecuted. You have some nerve to back this guy, just because the west has been attacked by the same foes. If you want to read about tragedy then don't only read about the children killed at Beslan, read about the 50 Russian conscripts tortured by their own officers, who when they complained were handed back to their own officers. Read about the summary arrests. Read about the gradual infiltration of the siloviki (the old KGB men) back into Russian government. Read what your own secretary of state says about them and then support them!
Posted by: Anonymous at January 30, 2005 03:13 PM (fBW/U)
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Anonymous: Please stay anonymous. You must be muslim. Frankly, I'm not the least bit concerned about Chechens and their rebellion. We are to busy fighting killer asshole muslims in other places. Now you wish us to concern ourselves with muslims in Russia? Our soldiers get mistreated every day. Mistreated, by bullets, mines, bombs and beheadings. All from muslims. And you wish us to do WHAT? Just because we have been attacked by the same foes. Are you nuts. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Posted by: greyrooster at January 30, 2005 05:06 PM (gvOyZ)
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Putin is no angel, but Muslim terrorists make him look like one by comparison. As Omar Abdel-Rahman proved by conducting his terrorist operations from prison after orchestrating the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, there is only one way to stop terrorists. The Russians used it here. Kudos to them.
Posted by: Van Helsing at January 30, 2005 05:34 PM (qs5Gh)
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I can believe the idiocy I am reading on this post.
First off Rod is a pysco and needs to either be put in to a mental
institution. By saying we should go kill their kids and wifes means you are no better then the scum terrorist are. And if you truly believe that they don't deserve to live, why don't you just take a
shotgun, drive out to your city dump, and blow your brains out. That
way you can save your family from having to dispose of your body.
As far as sandpiper, I have no problem shooting the terrorist dead
as long as you know they are terrorist.
Anonymous is right. Putin is fast becoming as sadistic as Stalin was, if not more. Soon Russia will be just like it was after WWII. Heck, not only is he killing off his own people, he is trying to kill
off the Ukranian president as well, just because his puppet did was not going to win.
And you greyrooster, need to be plucked and fried. All Anonymous
was saying was Putin is bad. He did not say anything bad about our troops, or even ask for help from the US for Russian. He was just trying to educate you morons on the policies of the world. And if you
can not open that pea size brain of yours to different ideas, maybe
you should not be allowed in to these chat forms.
And one thing to Van Helsing, Pre WWII, no one thought to much of
a second rate man name Heinrich Himmler. But because no one paid him any attention, he was able to get up to be the number 3 (some say 2) man of Nazi Germany. My point is, if we don't watch Putin, the US could eventually rue the day.
Posted by: Butch at January 31, 2005 05:02 PM (Gqhi9)
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BUTCH: Now we will see who has the pea sized brain? I see you join the fray with name calling and such. Therefore you have earned it back. As many before you have learned. So you ignorant asshole. If you weren't a Putin hating imbecile you would know the importance keeping the ISLAMOFACISTS busy on another front. What are we supposed to do. Russias business is Russia's business. Not ours. Keep an eye on Putin? And do what? Dumb ass. Russia is not what it used to be. Not even close. Even a dunderheaded low life like you should see that. We really don't fear a nation that couldn't successfully invade Afghanistan. Pull your head out of your stupid ass and see the light. In fact, it looks like the Russians will probably end up being our ally in the fight against the Islamofacists. How many Americans have been killed by Russians lately? Zero, Dickhead, Zero. In fact, how many Americans have ever been killed by the Russians? The issue is who is killing us now. But at times name calling low life, dickheads like you can't see that far. And back to the Nazi thing. Again & again. Get a life, shit for brains.
Rod fought for this country? His opinions are his opinions. I don't agree with this particular one, but thats my opinion. He has a right to express them with being verbally attacked by punks like you. What the fuck have you ever done for this country?
Like to verbally insult people? We can do it to. Have an opinion about an issue? Fine. Say it. Some people won't take your ignorant attacks.
I was able to completely disagree with Anonymous without resorting to the insulting, name calling bullshit that utters from your putrid mouth. So in final, in big dog talk you get a #2. Which is piss on you.
Posted by: greyrooster at February 01, 2005 03:01 AM (DSbhO)
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Okay, let's all compromise: The Russians shouldn't kill women and children (intentionally), but let's definitely encourage them to blast the hell out of any and all terrorists. The more they kill, the fewer alive to shoot at our own troops.
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Ok, Mister Chicken, what name calling did I use. If you are referring to me calling Rod a psycho and the rest of you morons, let me educate you. According to Merriam Webster dictionary online, a psycho is who inflicted with psychopath which is defined as extreme mental disorder marked usually by egocentric and antisocial activity.
Well, wanting to have women and children killed because of what the man does seems to me to be very antisocial. So this “slur” does have some bases to be used. As for calling you all morons, Moron is defined as to slow up especially by preventing or hindering advance or accomplishment. Your mental faculties are being hinder right now by you extreme hatred of Islam. Once again the “Slur” has some bases. As for pea brain, well your use of profanity has just validated this one.
Now that I have tried to educate you in English, lets go back to history shall we. Pre WWII, England and France had lots of chances to get rid of Hitler, but did not, It was a Austria problem, a Cech problem, a Jewish problem. When they did finally solved
the Hitler problem it cost England 400,000 killed, 300,000 wounded, France 250,000 wounded, and 350,000 wounded, US 300,00 killed and 300,000 wounded. Why, because we did not address the problem earlier. Like a cancer, we let it grow until it was almost to late. Yes I know, it is only freaking history, but History comes back around you imbecile. (Just for you an imbecile is a person affected with moderate mental retardation.) That is why we need to watch Putin. The issue is “NOT” who is killing us now, but who “POSES A THREAT TO AMERICA, NOW AND IN THE FUTURE”. Otherwise, why did we go into raghead land. So you pull you chicken head out of the sand, (or is it your ass your have it in), and see what is happening around the world.
As for what have I done for my country, I have done more then a lot of punks have. I have served in both the Army and the Marine Corp. Just because some one, myself included, serves in the military, does not grant them genius status. I have known a lot of (ex)servicemen and women, who was dumb as a rock. Now I salute them for defending our nation, but I would be damned to put a few of them in charge of making foreign policies. As for opinions, well times have change. It is no longer a good practice to go around shouting you wish some one dead. If you were a student in any high school,
junior high or elementary, you would be at the least expelled, and may be arrested. As for his right to express them without be verbally attacked, you are so stupidly wrong. That is what a chat line is for. Yes this is my opinion as was my earlier posting was. And yes I have the right to express these opinion, just as you and Psycho Rod has a right attack mine. And from what I have read, all you do is attack peoples opinions and not their issues. You attacked Anonymous for trying to make you low IQ parrot see what was going on in some place. As for the piss on you statement, why donÂ’t you just eat my sh?t, to refuel you foul mouth.
As for the Young Bourbon Professional, I agree with 100%. I do not
Posted by: Butch at February 01, 2005 09:51 AM (Gqhi9)
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BUTCH: Remember, you opened the door first. Notice my question of you must be a muslim was never (of course) answered. Read my reply to Anonymous again. Asking are you nuts is not an attack. Equating Russia today with Germany 65 years ago is stupid. Watch Putin and do what? Go to war with a nuclear power. For who, to protect muslims bent on killing us? The more Putin/Russia pounds the muslims the better.
Whats the matter couldn't hack it in the Marine Corps?
You are obviously one of the sore loser, moronic, Kerry the traitor loving, dick head democrats coming back out from under the rocks you slime bags have been hiding under since the election. NOW THATS AN ATTACK.
Once again, piss on you.
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Butch--Please finish your post above. I think that it got cut off.
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You are correct again Mr YBProf. I was saying:
I do not agree with anyone that supports the intentional killing of
innocents (aka children and most women, some are not innocent). I am
all in favor of killing those terrorist caught red handed, either by us or anyone else. But just because a rabid dog kills a fox that has been killing chickens, does not mean we need to run out and embrace
the dog.
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Perhaps embrace the rabid dog's actions but not necessarily the dog itself.
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Butch--This is merely an academic observation, and I may well be wrong. I don't care where a person is born, but based upon my knowledge of the English language, English usage, word choice, syntax, etc., I have a hunch that English is not your native language. So, it's none of my business, and it truly doesn't matter, but am I wrong? Please be honest.
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Did you ever wonder why the eagle in russias logo has two heads? that so it can munch as many terrorists as it can(Burp)
Posted by: sandpiper at February 02, 2005 08:29 PM (aIwUu)
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Bourbon: Butch's place of origin is the Getto. That's obvious. Also obvious that he hasn't left yet. He comes out on occassion to educate us. Usually, about the first of the month. That way he can pick up his food stamps on the way.
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Still haven't heard back...
Greyrooster, is it possible he was offended by something you said???
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To answer your question YBP, English (aka American) is my native language. But I have grown up with a lot of foreign languages around
me, (many friends and neighbors.) I also will admit, that many times
I do take literary licenses for a lot of words I have used, such as
"caughtee". Which most educated people such as yourself could see
what I am doing, unlike the little chicken whose only big thing he
has is mouth. As far as me living in the ghetto, I am not the one
who has a chain gang come by and pick up trash in front of his house.
I wonder how the trash gets there? Maybe a stupid chicken is so lazy
or stupid, he can't find the trash can. Or maybe it just takes to much energy dodging around all those cars on cinder blocks that keeps
chicken little from throwing away his own trash.
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Butch--Thanks for responding to my query.
I think that everyone who uses the English language takes SOME license with it from time to time--hence the fact that it has continued to evolve since its inception.
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Getto porch monkey Butch.
Yea, the gang picks up bottles and Mac Donalds trash left on the road that borders my property. All 1.7 miles of it. The Pearl River is on the back side so it floats away. And I bet the chain gang looks just like you. Need a job? Come on down. I can arrange it. No food stamps but free room and board. You get to keep the money for the aluminum cans for cigarettes and such. A nice green and white striped suit is also supplied. I sure you will feel right at home.
Posted by: greyrooster at February 04, 2005 04:14 PM (JHIKU)
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Greyrooster;
You're an absolute fool for posting that Russia isn't what it used to be since it couldn't successfully invade Afghanistan. We (the U.S.A) couldn't successfully invade vietnam, because of the same goddamn problem, radical fanatics who have either been brainwashed by their government or their crazy religious sect (a.k.a=radical islamist groups such as the Hamas in Israel or the Tali-Ban) that will sacrifice anyone and everyone around them in order to survive. Thats what happened in vietnam with us, thats what happened to the Russians in Afghanistan. So get your facts straight before you bash a country for something our own couldn't accomplish on the same scale
Posted by: joe at June 03, 2005 11:04 AM (pQmzE)
State Department Admits 3 American Hostages 'Probably' in Iraq
AFP reports that the State Department is now admitting that at least 3 Americans are probably alive and being held in Iraq:
"We know of three Americans who are held hostage in Iraq, and then there is a handful of others that are unaccounted for," State Department spokesman Richard Boucher said on Wednesday.By my count there are four, possibly five. They are:Boucher declined to identify the three or provide any details on their situation, only saying that officials are in regular contact with their families.
Roy Hallums, Dean Sadek, Tim Bell and Bill Bradley. The Army of Ansar al Sunnah claimed to have killed Spc. Matt "Keith" Maupin on video, but the victim could not be identified as in other videos released by the group.
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Rusty,
Matt Maupin's family still believes he is alive and is working towards some kind of solution to find out if that is true or not. I'm not sure if they have a site on him but I do know they do not accept that back video in the dark as his killing, so they are still holding out hope. For their sake, I hope they get some closure one way or another and I hope and pray it's for the best. Just thought you'd like to know.
There are a lot more hostages than we know of and a lot more deaths than we are aware of and I hope those families can somehow find some peace.
Whatever happened to the belief that Spiecer (sp? who was caught during the Gulf War (1991) was still alive? Any word on him?
Cindy
PS Sorry but my laptop fried and I lost all my info, email, websites and more - just like my two cpu's sitting on the floor beside my desk, which I never use, so now I have 4 total computers that do not work - I'm just borrowig this laptop for about 5 minutes from someone else.
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at January 28, 2005 06:52 AM (D39Vm)
Islamic Comic Books
Look, up in the sky! It's a bird! It's a plane! No, it's Supermuhammed!!!
John at Crossroads of Arabia blogs on this Arab News article:
Muslim children from the Gulf states, the UK and Australia now have something new to look forward to: An English-language comic book for kids, described as the first of its kind in the Arab world...Can someone tell me why countries with religious freedom allow the totalitarian state of Saudi Arabia to proselytize in them? Isn't it about time to tell the Saudis to take their money used to build Islam in the US and shove it until they allow full religious freedom at home?“The aim of this Saudi-Swedish educational project is to wean Muslim children away from satellite TV and expose them to Islamic views,” Al-Hajji told Arab News.
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It's been time to tell the Saudis to go to hell for a couple of decades now.
Posted by: Preston Taylor Holmes at January 27, 2005 09:44 AM (WsZ4F)
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We can't ... correction the administration can't ... because the king personally told our administration that they are our friends and our government believes it ... are you blind ... the government thinks its okay! You must be un-American to believe anything the government doesnt!
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Maybe countries with religious freedom allow Saudi Arabia to proseletyze because they've got religious freedom?
Freedom of speech is freedom of speech, and shouldn't be subject conditions based on who's paying for it.
Besides, I'm guessing these will be like Islamic Jack Chic tracts. I'd love to get my hands on one.
Posted by: Eric at January 27, 2005 10:07 AM (hrQvk)
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I look forward to altering the dialogue and text on these things.
Posted by: Laurence Simon at January 27, 2005 10:27 AM (uBCxH)
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Freedom of religion of one thing, but that is an INTERNAL matter. If a nation-state means anything than controlling its borders must be an inherent attribute. If that is the case, than a free society can control the influx of money from outside the country.
Restricting the transfer of Saudi money to the US to support religion is not a restriction on freedom of religion in the legal sense. If Muslim societies wish to support Islam within our country, more power to them. But the transfer of money from one country to another is a PRIVELEGE dictated by law and not a RIGHT. If they wish to retain this privelege I submit that they ought to offer that priveledge to us as well.
If not, then the relationship is inequitable and ought to be altered.
If the s
Posted by: Rusty at January 27, 2005 10:59 AM (JQjhA)
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Should we also block the .sa domain?
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How about we let those kids read this comic book:
http://davidsonpress.com/islam/
Just an idea. 
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Ha!!
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I'll say it and even use it as a platform but you just did it yourself. I would not trust a Saudi for anything in this world and I sure would love to see others follow in that same path.
Cindy
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I think it's great. The more Islamic children are exposed to Islamic views the more backward they become. Which in turn means less competition for followers of civilized, modern religions. Better yet, for those who chose not to practice religlion.
That way, the west and progressive countries in Asia can continue to get rich selling them our TV's, cars, cell phones, etc.
I think getting Islamic children away from TV's is a good idea. They learn to much watching TV. Sitting in the sand, reading comic books is better.
What happens when they run out of oil to sell?
Do we feed them? Do they return to herding camels in the desert? Makes you wonder.
Personally, I liked them better when they ran around the desert killing each other. Beating slaves & women and cooking grasshoppers on camel dung fires. Just seems more Islamic. A natural way for them to be. Maybe, Islamic comic books will help them return to the good ole days. When women were women and camels were camels and the men knew the difference.
Posted by: greyrooster at January 28, 2005 07:20 AM (To5gU)
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Why do they need more fictional literature based upon fantasy? They already have the Koran.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at January 28, 2005 10:45 AM (x+5JB)
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NOW THAT WAS GOOD!!!!!
Posted by: greyrooster at January 30, 2005 10:57 AM (gvOyZ)
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Greyrooster--I'm STILL waiting for a barrage of criticism from the liberals for my comment!
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Due to my warning, they apparently decided better. Then again, that is exactly what I wished. Sneaky huh.
Posted by: greyrooster at February 01, 2005 03:11 AM (DSbhO)
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I THANK you, sir!
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PRESTON TAYLOR HOLMES: That's impressive. I can't help but think a name like that belongs on a book cover. You know, one of those big brown ones with the gold lettering. Any the wife likes the Taylor part. Her maiden name.
Posted by: greyrooster at February 04, 2005 07:36 PM (JHIKU)
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Way, way, way, way. Spell check first dummy.
Posted by: greyrooster at February 04, 2005 07:38 PM (JHIKU)
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The name's even better than "Robert E. Lee Priutt" in Jones' From Here to Eternity."
Greyrooster: Did you hear about the vadalism to several of the War between the States monuments at Gettysburg? Some sick nut has lopped off the swords of several statues--blue AND grey, I believe.
He/she/it should be shot for defiling these monuments.
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I'm a Muslim comic book artist. All I got to say is... LOL
But I got to add that the Saudi Royal family are nothing but a herd of fascist pigs. Most of Muslims around the world hate them.
Why are you affraid of Islamic comic books, the market is full of comics about Christianism. Even in manga format!!!!
Dont fear what you dont know deeply.
Best regards,
Wassalam
Muhammad Hassan
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wow, you're all so educated.
Posted by: randomcat at April 25, 2005 05:43 PM (uwzOE)
Iraqi Election Blog
Friends of Democracy is blogging the Iraqi election from Iraq. The next few days should be very interesting.
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I have HUGE differences with Muslims religiously, but seeing the pictures of them lined up to vote, I was proud of them as fellow human beings, in that they defied the bastards terrorists who threatened them if they even attempted to vote.
I applaud their courage, and don'y honestly know if I would have dared to do the same.
I say as a present, we publicly shoot the al-Zawari goons recently captured with the message that anyone else caught wearing a ski mask and carrying even a slingshot will meet the same fate. Had we done this day's ago, the voter turnout may have been higher.
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Yikes--Sorry about the typos ("don'y," "day's"). And I was an English major!
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Right on Bourbon. Anyone armed and with a ski mask should be killed on site. That's what they are doing. Killing. That's why they carry arms and ski masks. To kill. No other reason. Their call. This take them prisoner thing has never worked. If we were like them and started cutting heads off and pulling finger nails, then taking prisoners would pay. We're not. So the alternative should be get rid of them as quickly and cheaply as possible.
God forbid making them wear panties on their heads. Such torture is horrible. We would be the same as them.
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I'm fairly sure ANY prisoners would rather undergo something akin to frat-hazing than be beheaded.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at February 02, 2005 11:39 AM (x+5JB)
Why does the Arab World Suck Ass? It's the Jews
Did you notice this CNN I linked in yesterday's Religion of Peace Roundup?
"The U.N. Development Programme (UNDP) will lend its name to a controversial report on freedom and governance in the Arab world despite U.S. objections to parts of the text".So let me get this straight, Tunisia is underdeveloped because of Zionist oppression? That's a lot like saying that the large number of mullets found in Needles, California, can be explained by New Jersey.
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"The dispute reflects differences between the U.S. view that the Arab world's problems are mainly internal and the Arab consensus that external factors such as foreign intervention and Israel's treatment of the Palestinians have contributed significantly to oppression and poor governance in the region".
The Watcher over at Indymedia wonders if this is another case of payola going to higher ups in the UN to change the reports conclusion. Who better to blame than the Jews?
On the other hand, since when has blaming the Jew menace needed a payoff? The U.N. does it all the time with hundreds of resolutions condemning Israel for the very same acts other countries routinely engage in. The question is not why the U.N. is blaming the Jews now. The real question is why they didn't blame the Jews earlier?
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While Israel does have some kind of responsibility towards the Palestinians (after all, they conquered the land the Palestinians live on), I think it's more reprehensible that all of the Arab countries in the Middle East have been in a position to help the Palestinians for decades and never have. Instead, they (the Arab countries) have been using the Palestinians as a playing card against each other and the West to further their own goals. Palestinian statehood would be a huge negative for them if it ever came to total fruition.
Posted by: Venom at January 27, 2005 08:58 AM (dbxVM)
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As long as it Needles and not Thermal, Brawley or Indio I guess its OK. Just dont send their Governor out here.
Posted by: Rod Stanton at January 27, 2005 05:01 PM (IcheV)
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Don't kid yourselves that the Arabs care at all about the Palestinians.
They don't - as demonstrated in "Black September" when Jordan shot about 10 000 of them.
Arab "support" for the Palestinians is only because they hate Israel worse.
As for how Israel "conquered the land the Palestinians live on" that's not entirely correct either. Notwithstanding that it was the Arabs who invaded Israel in 1948, not the other way around, the Arabs in the area fled on the advice of other Arab countries who figured they would win the war after which they could return victorious. Unfortunately the Arabs lost and they've been bitter about it ever since.
Posted by: LD at January 27, 2005 06:06 PM (dw5bH)
Posted by: Leigh at January 27, 2005 09:04 PM (cjBPK)
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Good Question; I've been asking that same question myself but still Israel gets away with doing just about anything they want. Ariel Sharon wants the Palestinians wiped off the face of the earth and they are doing it little by little and sometimes a lot by a lot and despite what the useless UN does or says or the World Court says or does, Ariel Sharon coninues to do whatever he wants. I do not know why but are they afraid of them? Or are they letting him get away with more than they would any other country because of what happened in the past? It's not like they can't protect themselves; they've just taken it a step further and it's time someone really stomped on him and put in a leader who is fair, justified, and able and willing to promote peace. Ariel Sharon is not that man. Many of the jews themselves despise that man and his party; it is up to the jews in Israel (whom have already protested against him) and the Europian countries to put this man in his place and that place is in jail.
My best friend growing up was Jewish and I went to a Catholic School. I know for a fact that this family does not agree with Sharon and glad it's not on our land.
I don't care what the PLO did in the past but what they have had to put up with from the Israeli government is just plain simply wrong - they are prisoners in the destructive area that h allows them to live in and NO ONE has that right to play GOD.
Cindy
Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at January 28, 2005 07:17 AM (D39Vm)
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And if anyone does not believe that Ariel Sharon is a terrorist needs a reality check.
~C
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at January 28, 2005 07:19 AM (D39Vm)
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I think the UN and most western nations support Israel for one reason. Past suffering may play a part. However, I believe support comes from one main issue. Israel doesn't vow to kill all Palestinians and Muslims in the middle east. The Palestinians call for death to all Jews. Drive them into the sea is their call.
The rest of the Arab world really doesn't give a shit about the Palestinians. They are considered a 3 class, conquered people. A pawn in religious politics at best.
To me, screw them, they danced in the streets when 3000 people were cowardly slaughtered at the World Trade Center. I cannot forgive them for this. Not that I care so much for Israel, but they didn't dance in the streets.
Posted by: greyrooster at January 28, 2005 07:41 AM (To5gU)
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Someone take a picture. greyrooster and I actually agree on something.
Posted by: Venom at January 28, 2005 10:40 AM (dbxVM)
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I don’t agree that Arabs look to Palestinians as a 3 class , or they don’t care about them. and I don’t agree that Arabs hate Jews . However Arabs don’t recognize the existent of 50 years old state “Israel” established on the blood of hundreds thousand of women and children for no reason just because the European want to get their forgiveness and get ride of them , as well as they may don’t like Arabs , so the best way it was to support them to live on other people land and using the holy text to justify their goals
Posted by: kim at February 10, 2005 01:47 PM (4HkeO)
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firstbrokenangel, the reason the palestines can't do anything is because they have nothing to fight with. The US gets their wepons from the Israelies...so the obviously have some of the best. and what do the palestines have?....
Posted by: Aimee at February 11, 2005 12:03 AM (xKtkW)
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The jewish community bought much of the land from the palestinians before the UN mandate to create a Zionist state. Many palistinian husbands and fathers willingly sold them the land. Yes, the European countries made things worse by createing a Jewish state, but much of the land belonged to them (jewish buyers) already. Yes, the Arabic countries were bitter about losing the war, but instead of looking to the real reasons why they lost, they rebelled further into ideocratic states, and continued to isolate themselves from each other in part to western influence and in a larger part due to religious and clan based differences. This is what we see today within the middle-eastern states. Much hatred based on religion and past clan based wars. Palestine became a convienent and easy scapegoat. A symbol of western oppression, when in reality the other Arab states could have constructively helped them, but they largely "helped" by spouting hatred towards the west and creating further ideolistic schisms. We are all people, more alike than different. We all want our kids to have a better life than we did. That lesson has been lost largely in that area and people feel trapped in their lives. That on top of the hatred, killing, religion and politics will never be resolved until all sides can really forgive and treat each other with compassion. Now it has degenerated into "us vs. them" on so many levels that I believe no side will ever have peace. Both sides have plenty of sins to atone for and both sides need to find understanding before anyone could have hope of peace. I fear that the easy way (guns, war, murder) will be the only way and that the strong way (understanding and forgiveness) will appear to hard to find.
Posted by: Zman at February 25, 2005 02:06 PM (qmL8y)
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that masseg is for every one in this world
we wonat but jwsh life in our earth and we have to kell every one of them like what they are doing in FALSTAEN we will kill them to have a good life to fill we are the best in this world
Posted by: Ali A Matari at March 06, 2005 04:51 AM (uVl88)
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the original poster of this is an idiot. the jews have been victims for thousands of years at the hands of the local barbaric arabs. FINALLY, after these thousands of years the establish their own nation again....but in the process have to deal w/ the "jawas" constantly bickering at them and trying to blow them up.
the fact you even hinted that Jews are more to blame than arabs just solidifies your ignorance, so congrats....your on your way to becoming just as cool as Bill O'reily.
the jews will do whatever is necesary for them to survive, seeing as half of them were whipped out when the world did little to stop the German onslaught....so no one can blame them for being paranoid and refusing to take sh*t from anyone.
this whole issue could easily be resolved w/ a man made plague that whipes out those not immunized....then BAM, there goes the middle east and their ancient insane ways.
the only good Islamic fundamentalism is one w/ 2 rounds in his head.
Posted by: Xx EV1L xX at April 13, 2005 01:36 PM (xvbko)
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Ali A, assuming your really serious and that stupid. if our marauding forces dont cap you soon enough, i got a round w/ your foreheads name on it.
Posted by: Xx EV1L xX at April 13, 2005 01:41 PM (xvbko)
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greyrooster or woteva ur name is.. if ur only reason for hating palestinians is bcos thy danced wen 3000 people were killed in NY.. then i may b abl to aid your little media influenced mind - those pictures you saw were from the previous eid celebration - ye fair enough, they were dancing burning US flags.. but not for 9/11 - in fact they held peace vigils in palestine - but obviously your media won't show you this.. i dnt blame you for your views.. its bcos as u sed.. u dnt giv a shit much about the issue and wont b bothered to think outside of the box and question the images u see... but maybe u can wake up a lil and stopped being the typical western 9-5 working pawn in the game of capitalism.
Posted by: ibz at April 27, 2005 07:40 AM (3S0Ii)
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and EV1L - you can hav as many caps as u want ready.. you will never scare a muslim like that.. this is wot we 'want'.. as death for the cause is the best death we can aspire for. unlik western fighters.. they fear for their lives.. hence just bombing the shit out of a country before landing to just walk about for a bit in security.. islamic jihaadis hav no fear of death.. and actualy want death.
Posted by: ibz at April 27, 2005 07:45 AM (3S0Ii)
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The jews are the ones I chose.
The Palestinians are the others I chose.
And together we willhave a lot of fun!
I am a cynic god.
Posted by: God at May 04, 2005 01:21 PM (6v9V6)
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arab very like ass bz yhey get very tight on ass
and the arabs big ass is very suiet for the ass
Posted by: khan at May 26, 2005 01:08 AM (6FFT+)
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Aravi Tov, Aravi Met. The only solution to the worlds problems is to wipe out all the Arabs. They are worthless scum and are the lowest form of life.
Posted by: Dave at July 10, 2005 06:18 AM (zu/Ju)
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may be the arabs r not one of the most democratic people around but it hardly justifies the nature of the israelis.you keep on blowing the trumpet of of being the only democracy in the middle east n then ur spies assasinate people all over the world in broad daylight,completely circumventing the judiciary,n that too with the full endorsement of ur"elected" govt.ur bulldozers raze the houses of innocent civilians,ur army helps lebanese maronites in massacring thousands of unarmed people.if palestinian bombers kill innocent people,do ur precision missiles target just that one odd hamas millitant or scores of people around him also.dont u people deserve all this.
Posted by: andalus at July 26, 2005 11:07 AM (z6TKk)
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oh man!i i can never forgive Hitler,absolutely not, for the mistake he commited.he killed just 6 million of those jews n left the rest of them alive to parasititze this earth.i wish i could turn back time,get hold of each n every jew;put every male in the gas chamber,rape all those jewish whores n then put them in the chamber too along with their children.just a cursory analysis of any major ill humanity has faced since time immemorial would lead u to the root of that ill withn no time:n the root cause is those BLOODY JEWS.they are a liability for people of all creeds,faiths n religons.mother fuckers,bastards,swines,filthy scum,traitors,a disgrace to humanity -they are much,much more than this.one second thoughts id like to thank you HITLER,for eradicating at least 6 million of them.
Posted by: jeweraser at July 26, 2005 11:40 AM (z6TKk)
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wow jeweraser, how thoughtful and kind of you to want to kill me and sleep with my jewish "whores", truly inciteful indeed, obviously what you wrote out was well thought out and planned. i would just to know what would bring someone to saysuch horrible things about (and corect me if im wrong) people you most probably have never met in real life... and andalus, well i have onyl one question for you, would any other city in the middle east host anything remotely considered a gay pride parade (not that this is the sole qualificationfor a democracy, but it helps...) i dont think you would have a gay pride parade in bagdad or any single other city in the surrounding area (besides, israel obviously..) so if you want to talk about democracy, start with the basics, then when they stop trying to blow them selves up, ew will stop assasinating the people who plan these attacks... seeing as there will be no more reason for it....
Posted by: bothered_by_stupidity at August 02, 2005 05:59 AM (0JOrE)
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Muslims should be slaughtered like the racist hateful pigs they are. They are taught from childhood to hate and kill anyone that is not Muslim. As a Christian I will do whatever it takes to defend my faith but more importantly keep these animals at bay.
Posted by: Brian at October 11, 2005 01:24 PM (Xk8Hy)
Islamist Joke
A guy walks into his house after returning from Mecca. "Honey, I'm home," he yells. Then slits his 14 year old daughters throat for being a 'filthy filthy Jew slut'.
Turns out she was a virgin. "Oops, my bad."
(PS-what kind of society runs medical tests to see if the father was justified in murdering his daughter?)
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Hey, at lest the guy is "being questioned" about the case.
Posted by: Leopold Stotch at January 27, 2005 09:35 AM (2Uy/m)
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I see a sleeper for father of the year. ;-)
Posted by: EC at January 27, 2005 09:55 AM (yYGP5)
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what is there to question this is MURDER and the worst kind. What kind of people do this and what kind of people accept this as the norm. I am so angry at this and to make a joke of it beggars belief.
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PS answer: none
As to the rest of the joke, Rusty, that's awful!
While they were all there at Mecca in Saudi Arabia, I thought would have been a good time to drop a nuclear bomb. And I don't want to hear any bullshit from anyone on my opinion, thank you very much. You morons who send me hate mail without leaving your nick can all go to hell.
Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at January 28, 2005 07:25 AM (D39Vm)
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I think the key here is that he was an employee of the ISLAMIC affairs ministry. I kill you in the name of GOD who is all good and merciful. Backward bunch of dickheads.
Posted by: greyrooster at January 28, 2005 07:52 AM (To5gU)
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LR: Some make a joke of it because they are frustrated and know they cannot do anything about it. You claim to be so angry. What are you going to do with your anger? Strike at whom?
Posted by: greyrooster at January 28, 2005 08:05 AM (To5gU)
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I suppose im frustrated too thats why im angry. The "joke" is
bad enough but its what actually happened that angers me more.
I havent got a clue what to do it just worries me what kind of
world we are bringing our children up in. What lies ahead for
them, if this is the kind of scum we are dealing with.
I dont know how a father for want of a better word could do this to his child. MONSTER
Posted by: L R at January 28, 2005 06:56 PM (SgQqe)
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Acts like these are a prime example of what I see as a progressively dangerous conflict between religion and basic, human rights. I certainly think anyone who wants to practice any religion has a right to do so. But Islamic teachings say that the act such as this one are allowed. So should we leave them be because it's just "their custom?" I believe the answer is no. It is time for Muslims, Christians, and everyone else to begin to interpret their holy books in a way that makes some fucking common sense. But again, if religious people are expected to contemporize holy scripture, doesn't that mean they are picking and choosing how they act? This is a conflict that has been a huge problem for a LONG time, but only now with a push for humanitarian treatment of all people has it been brought to attention.
So what do we do about it? I'm still not sure.
Posted by: igor kazakov at January 29, 2005 05:40 PM (xM3Dg)
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Mental health tests? the only testing this man needs is to see how much medicine they need to inject him with to make sure he dies fast.
Posted by: Dr_Funk at January 29, 2005 11:36 PM (Ytf+h)
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Heavy Igor, heavy. And to the point.
Posted by: greyrooster at January 30, 2005 11:03 AM (gvOyZ)
A haiku for Dave at Garfield Ridge
Dave at Garfield Ridge,
is down like a clown Charlie Brown.
Go visit Garfield Ridge.
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Such kind words from a desert scavenger!
Thank you Jawa.
Cheers,
Dave at Garfield Ridge
Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge at January 27, 2005 02:53 PM (rV7Dk)
January 26, 2005
Walk-Ins
From time to time, a foreign national will walk into a US embassy and start divulging sensitive information. In some circles these people are known as walk-ins. And today, the comments section of Winds of Change had, what can be considered an inadvertent walk-in of sorts.
Recently there has been a great deal of discussion about the validity of the notion of "activistism." Activistists tend to define themselves by their apparent desire for protest for it's own sake, rather than as a tool to achieve specific political ends. Much of this discussion has been carried on in posts by Marc Cooper, Michael Totten, myself, and most recently Joe Katzman at Winds of Change. The current debate deals with, in part, about the role of activistism in today's left, and the ideological nature of those who seem to be calling the shots in the Democratic Party. Closely related to this subject is the notion that the activist left is completely tone deaf on national security, due to the apparent allergy that the far left has to the field of strategic studies.
In the comments section of Joe Katzman's roundup of discussion about activistism, a certain T.J. Madison manages, in his comment, to provide a glaring illustration of this allergy to strategic thinking in just under 100 words.
In the context of discussion about prevailing trends in the Democratic Left, T.J. Madison has become an unintentional walk-in in the debate about the intellectual proclivities of the activistist left and the role of activistism in the Democratic weakness on security.
more...
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My opinion is that they have so-much assumed the Chomsky position of US "Nazification," as reflected in their dominant rhetoric: Bush=Hitler, and reflects that they have no real interest in preserving the "United States of America," until it's become the UN-ited Peoples' States of America.
Step 1: Secure the Russian nuclear arsenal - that's a reaffirmation of their pro-Soviet affection and affiliation, and provides outreach and job-security for Russians and former Comrads.
Step 2: Offer to buy up stray nuclear material for a fixed (high) price, no questions asked. One of the most useless but demonstrable and visible forms of anti-gun activism is the gun buy-back program. It does nothing to curtail "gun violence," but provides for a warm-fuzzy feeling and a photo-op, at the expense of local Police and other budgets. Criminals sell their old broken pieces in order to get cash for shiny new ones.
Posted by: -keith in mtn. view at January 26, 2005 07:30 PM (sE9R7)
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Nice fisking of a silly person. It draws you to an inescapable conclusion that, I believe, encompasses this kind of nonsense. The arguments that this type of person puts forth are so simple-minded and at odds with factual data, economic theories, the laws of physics, etc., that it seems to me that they are just not as smart as they think.
Posted by: Giacomo at January 27, 2005 05:28 AM (rE+cH)
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"activists" have been opposed to national security for at least 55 years. A prominent anti security "activist" of 60 years ago was Alger Hiss. He was a well regarded Democrat in Harry's admin and was adamantly opposed to all military spending. Really not much has changed in 60 years; only the names and faces.
Posted by: Rod Stanton at January 27, 2005 06:59 AM (6krEN)
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uh, we're gonna accomplish what by re-arming Russia against us with nukes? this is brilliant in terms of zag-type thinking. that guy has a ball sounding off at parties, I'm sure. plus, ya gotta love the sheer simplicity of a two-step program for restoring the world to its erstwhile utopian state. and I'll sign off on item #2 if skippy here ponies up out of his own pocket for it.
but seriously. when hardcore activististas can afford to kick around scorched-earth-inviting scenarios or get pissed off at "sectarian grupuscle wanking off" and bail in search of another cause or go back to worrying about the goddess being marginalized, I think we can heave a sigh of relief. there must not be much going on in the world.
Posted by: tee bee at January 27, 2005 09:53 AM (q1JHF)
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Hundred megabucks a nuke? Holy sh*t on a stick, batman. For that kind of dough I could build one. And would.
Posted by: Fred Z at January 27, 2005 05:01 PM (xDUlc)
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Holy shit! I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree.
And once again Keith the Mountain View gets my appreciation for so elequently telling it like it is.
GIACOMO has condensed hours and hours of rhetoric into one simple statement. (they are not as smart as they think). Amen and Amen.
We have a few of the same types on this blog. Total lack of common sense. Total lack of experience. Lacking in everything except an overload of liberal academic conjecture. Which in their ignorance they think can be applied to the real world. The worse part is that they actually believe they know what they are talking about. How 99% of the world relates to issues has nothing to do with anything. Only their rediculous opinions that can only be applied if the world was entired populated by anti-social nerds. Those that stand up for America, its leaders, policys, etc: are ignorant, uneducated and racist. Other way around I think.
Posted by: greyrooster at January 28, 2005 08:44 AM (To5gU)
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thanx a lot!!!
u helped me a lot on mai project!!!!!!
-shoichirofan51
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