1 I am in strong disagreement with you. flags are very immportant. One of the reasons I have hated JFK for 34 years is the smear he did on the flag raisers at Mt. Suribachi. 4 of them never saw another sun rise. 2 more were dead before the battle was over and only one ever saw America again. Only God is more important. "God, Country, Marine Corps" Rod Stanton Cerritos

2 I never said flags were not important. That's an inference made upon something I didn't say. I did say however that I don't agree with jail time for stomping on a flag. As harmful and appalling as I think it is to stomp on a flag, it's still a freedom of speech value.

3 'So a tourist gets drunk at a bar, fair enough, but then proceeds to take down the Argentina flag and stomp on it? First off, what is his vendetta with Argentina?' Not too long ago the UK did have a war with argentina. I would imagine an aussie and a south african would be on the side of the brit.

4 The war was 23 years ago and it was called the Falklands War after the Brit Island that was captured for six months. As soon as the Brit fleet showed up (almost) the war was over. Brits creamed them. Should be no Brit anger, maybe Argentenian anger at the discrace from a one sided war that they started.

5 Ah, Chad... first of all you're talking to a MARINE. Marines are a different breed of people and I have to go along with him. Also in this day and age (even during the Olympics) it was recommended that you learn the country, it's rules, it's regulations, respect them and dress and blend in with them and to NOT go around parading that you are an American. Free Speech, Chad, is in OUR constitution, not everyone else's. As to this moron, he should have respected the country and if it was against their laws to descecrate a flag, he got what he deserved. As to Rod, Chad, please give him the respect he deserves or I will add here a story about john kerry that you don't already know. Cindy

6 Where was any disrespect towards anyone? I realize the freedom of speech idea with a flag is in our constitution, but that's something I believe in. That is what I stated above. Now how JFK got into this mess, I don't know.

7 You said that you don't agree the moron should be jailed if it was for desecrating the (Argentine)flag - your words, because of freedom of speech. Now Argentina may not have those rights and descecrating a flag could very well be a major offense in that country under it's laws. So if it's in their laws and he's jailed for that, not just disorderly conduct or moronic behavior, freedom of speech as in our constitution doesn't count. When you go to another country, you should learn their laws and their rules because they are not the same as ours. Then you commented to the MARINE: I never said flags were not important. That's an inference made upon something I didn't say. I did say however that I don't agree with jail time for stomping on a flag. As harmful and appalling as I think it is to stomp on a flag, it's still a freedom of speech value. First learn what Argentina's laws and rules are before you post on freedom of speech which may only be valuable in OUR country. The reason you have Freedom of Speech is because of people like Rod Stanton who fought for those rights in Vietnam. The disrespect not only comes from you not knowing your facts - ie thinking all countries have the same rights as we - but in your attitude that comes across through your words. If I can feel the disrespect, how do you think Rod feels when he reads your comments?? JFK stands for John Fucking Kerry although I would hope that Rod wouldn't use JFK anymore in reference to that moron, John Kerry and just say Kerry so people wouldn't think of Kennedy. You may not realize how you are coming across and you're young enough to think that the rest of the world is the same as the United States but you have no clue. We are a very lucky people; we are privileged people and most of us have no idea how great we really have it in this country. You live in a very lucky country that not only should you be proud of, appreciate, but fight for because it's the best country in the world. Cindy

8 Whoa! I meant absolutely no disrespect and I doubt it was taken that way. I realize different countries have different rules as I believe Istated in my post. I simply said I didn't agree with getting thrown into jail for stomping on a flag. It is a freedom of speech issue that we have in our country, but I know it is not in every country. That doesn't mean I should agree with another country's laws if they restrict what I think of as a God given right. I'm not going to argue here about what I said and what some hidden meaning are. I think it's clear and I've repeatedly said nothing was meant disrespectful. My facts are straight, yet you are now jumping on an opinion of mine concerning a right I feel every single person should have, regardless of the laws of the land. Of course anyone should abide by the country's laws, but that does not mean I should agree with them. Seriously, relax. No harm was meant and I'm still unclear as to why you are so upset over something that was not there.

9 To my Marine Brother Rod, Semper Fi. To Cindy, I appreciate your appreciation of mine and Rod's beloved Corp. I also am a Marine, albeit like Rod, an older one now. I know war as a Recon Marine, and I know of Rod's dislike for JFK - I never liked the guy for his Mt. Suribachi smear. Yes flags are important, especially to those who bear the brunt of battle in behalf of their nation and it's symbols. In other countries, as in America for many of us but certainly not all(refering to the lefties in blue), the nations flag is their most important symbol, as it should be. However, I think that we are all beating a dead horse here. Rod and I fought for the right of free speech just as much as we fought for the guys beside us and for our nation's symbols. What I hear Chad saying is that Cindy and Rod are right but that the issue of free speech is juxtaposed with our nation's flag - both carry the symbol of freedom. From my vantage point sitting out of the fray that I see here, I thank God we have people like Rod, Cindy, and Chad. My respects to all three of you. To you Cindy and Rod, we need to cut this young man a little slack - he's actually saying the same thing we are. Love all you guys, Richard

10 Richard, My husband was a Captain, Green Berets, Special Forces with more than 2 tours in Vietnam. His last two years were spent as an "advisor" so as far as anyone knew, he was a ghost somewhere and the govt said he was discharged in 1969 when in fact, he was discharged in 1971. Remember the ending of Platoon? That pretty much happened to him and to his camp and by all rights, he should not have survived. He was killed in 1978 by a 16 year old girl who just got her license and did a U-turn even though she saw him, hitting him 3 times until he went flying several hundred feet hitting the back of his head on a stone wall causing immediate brain death but I still had to wait 7 days. We had a 5 year old son at the time. During the time from 1971 to the time of his death, he slowly went insane; my life and the life of my son was in danger all the time. It would not have been that way if he had come home the hero that he was but because of people like John Kerry saying and doing what he did and said, when our troops did come home, they were treated like monsters, hated because they fought in that war and looked upon like dirt because John Kerry spoke in front of Congress, the whole country rioting and protesting against the war. Unlike today, we try to make our troops feel like the heroes that they are; they go through a debriefing process and a repatriation process so that they can sort of get back into norrmal society. They have psychologists and therapists and psychiatrists at their disposal now. I lost a man who was lost in this new world and my son lost a father - thanks to people like John Kerry. It was so hard and if I knew then the things I know now (and of course for some time now) maybe things would have turned out different. Instead I sat by the bed of my husband on life support and watched him go from his normal looks to one of a monster until the transplant team showed up. Back then that's how it was and as long as I live I will never forget the hell he went through. I took the brunt of it and as special as marines are, so were the Special Forces - a breed apart from the normal soldiers, so I respect all soldiers but in particular the Green Berets, Special Forces and Marines. My Dad was a Marine and all my life it was like I am a marine and I am tough; only the best can become Marines; they had a whole different attitude than the regulars and they deserved it. I will leave it at that. Cindy

11 Richard Hi One of your guys helped my squad successfully carry of an ambush. On of my men was hidden but his rifle was reflecting sun light. A Recon guy ,hidden God only knows where, called my radio man and got me and said get his rifle under the brush. I got it done and we got the bad guys 10 Min later. Thanks a lot. S/F Rod A 1/5

12 Cindy God bless you, your son, and your husband; may he rest in peace. Love Rod

13 'The war was 23 years ago and it was called the Falklands War after the Brit Island that was captured for six months.' There would be anger if you were to call them the 'Malvinas' to a brit, or 'Falklands' to an argentine.

14 Seems like some countries are more touchie about their flag than America is. how many times have we seen the American flag desecrated without action taken. Right here, on our streets. The Aussie needs an ass kicking. And I like Aussies.-

15 wala man moy klaro pangit inyong balita peke.....

16 hi, I don't know how I landed here, but anyways I'm from Argentina and I live in new jersey. I know if someone would dare doing that to the American flag on American soil, they will get the same or worst punishment. and what freedom of speech are you guys taking about?, it's not like they said I'm going to stomp your flag,, they did it. Big difference!!!! and if you hate Argentina that bad why even going there? And donÂ’t forget the governments fight wars, not the citizens. And you know what? get over the falkands war, we already did.

1 JFK is and always has been a traitor! But then I'm biased since I server four (4) times as long in Nam as he did before he chickened out and ran for it!

2 The "moment of opportunity" I see for Syria is the ability of the U.S. to bomb the hell out of the terrorist training camps that are up and running in the Bekka Valley while our military is fully on station in the region.

3 This discussion is going on at Wizbang so I'm not going to comment here. Just wish he'd go away. Cindy

4 I see Kerry is up to his old tricks. He he doesn't get his way, he goes over to the other side. Same story 35 years later. I love payback.

5 i thank john kerry for all the terriost money in his bank account he is a stupid man

1 Allah hates *ALL* non Muslims. Hence killing babies is OK. 911 was just, ask Allah.

2 I have to confess this is becoming a very lame arguement strain ... we have our share of religious bigot's who place their arguments to fit their needs. I think one specifically comes to mind: "Teletubies are gay!" So classic! Anyways, giving any religious retard the airtime to voice "what they think is correct" is the biggest waste of time. Non-denominational religious movements are so successful for this very reason, use the touchy feely self-empowerment tactic ... they dont even get into this whole BS of secterian arguments, or he-said-she-said situations. If we have any hope of changing the tide of people turning their backs on those who preach hatered, is to work just as hard preaching the other side of the argument. Case in point: Southern Poverty Law Center and the white supremecy movement.

3 Looks like us sinners (yes I bought an xmas present) are getting it from both sides on this one: ... True Christians know from the Great Flood that one of God's favorite ways to indiscriminately kill enormous swaths of children is by drowning them and watching them gasp for air and while floating like little discarded Styrofoam cups in the tide.  Sometimes, He extends an enormous hand as if He is about to rescue the bobbing tot, only to retract it at the last minute to teach the drowning child a valuable lesson about the ineffable nature of God's love. ...and so on. read more here: http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0105/asia.html

4 If Muslims don't believe in fornicating how are they able to breed like rats. White supremacy movement. Why is that needed?

5 Good one Rev Rick, good one. He also sends us children with horrible birth defects just to test the faith of the parents.

6 maybe the tsunami was divine retribution against muslims for 9/11 ?

7 One must try to see beyond the caste , creed and religion. It is tragedy against the human being and it includes people from every religion including the innocent child. How can it be related towards any religion. Request to all to pray to your GOD for the soul who died in this tragedy and help child, womens who lost their family and looking towards us for help. May GOD bestows his blessing to all so it may every people on this earth to be a happy one.

1 AS REPORTED IN SUKALATALAMA MAGAZINE IN KERPLOPISTAN! AMERICA CAUSED THE MASSIVE DEATH AND DESTRUCTION WITH FECAL GAS BOMBS AIMED TO RID THE EARTH OF THE BELOVED MUSLIM!

2 Dr. Jack Shepard on the U.N. Petition: "Israel Stop Killing Us"- Dr. Jack Shepard on the UN Petition: "Israel Stop Killing Us" -Posted 10 days after the Planned Murder of Iain Hook Dr. Jack Shepard on the U.N. Petition: "Israel Stop Killing Us"- http://dr-jack-shepard-the-iain-hook-murder.blogspot.com/ http://iain-hook-murder-complicitycomplicity.blogspot.com/ ______________________________________ Posted 10 days after the Assassination Murder of Iain Hook by 64 U.N. staff and colleagues stationed in Israel and the Occupied Terroritories at the time of Iain Hook's Assassination! U.N. Workers Petition Israel:Stop "Beating and Killing" Us >>> On 3 December 2002, sixty-four U.N. workers issued a stunning petition. Stationed in Israel and the Occupied Territories, they demanded that the Israeli military stop "beating and killing" them. You might think that such a strongly-worded statement sent by more than five-dozen United Nations workers to the "Middle East's only democracy" would be highly newsworthy. Apparently not. Among the very few media outlets to cover it were Reuters, the BBC, the Independent (London), Ha'aretz (Jerusalem), and the Jerusalem Post. Notice that all these sources are British or Israeli. Not one American media outlet has covered the story. Below, I have excerpted all of the direct quotes from the petition that are used in the articles. Below that, you'll find what seems to be the full text of the petition, which was posted to IndyMedia Israel. While I, of course, cannot vouch for the authenticity of that posting, it does contain all of the quotations from news articles. Quotes from the petition, as reported in various news articles "We write to express our absolute condemnation at the senseless killing of Iain Hook in Jenin on November 22. Based on publicly available information, we condemn the Israeli army in the strongest possible terms for this wanton act against an unarmed man--a man shot in the back by a military sniper while negotiating with the Israeli army to evacuate the women, children, and UN staff who were in the UN compound at the time." .... "For two years United Nations staff have been subject to escalating harassment and violence by Israel's military, so that the protection supposed to be afforded by the blue letters of the UN is being steadily eroded... UN staff--international and Palestinian alike--have been verbally abused, stripped, beaten, shot at, and killed by Israeli soldiers." .... "From its silence, we presume the Israeli authorities have ignored UN requests for an investigation and report of these two incidents, and have not seen fit to take any disciplinary action against the soldiers involved. To us, this seems to confirm a pattern of utter contempt on the part of the Israeli army for the lost lives of these men, the safety of UN staff, or the minimum standards imposed by international law which should protect UN staff and other humanitarian workers." .... "In these tragic circumstances, rather than easily uttered regrets, we expect the Israeli government take the necessary steps to stop the harassment, beating and killing of UN staff." The petition, as posted to Israel IndyMedia December 3, 2002 To whom it may concern, _____________________________________________________________ We, the undersigned, are staff members of the United Nations, but we write in our personal capacities. All of us work in the West Bank and Gaza Strip bringing badly needed humanitarian relief to a population in distress. In the course of our duties we have witnessed much tragedy on both sides of the conflict. We have come from all over the world to work, without bias or favour, to try to alleviate some of the pain and suffering that has for too long afflicted this land. Now we find that, once again, tragedy has touched us. For us, expressions of sadness and grief are not enough. The diplomatic language of the bureaucrat will not suffice. We write to express our absolute condemnation at the senseless killing of Iain Hook in Jenin on November 22. Based on publicly available information, we condemn the Israeli army in the strongest possible terms for this wanton act against an unarmed man--a man shot in the back by a military sniper while negotiating with the Israeli army to evacuate the women, children and UN staff who were in the UN compound at the time. Our condemnation is reinforced by the knowledge that the soldiers refused to allow an ambulance called to evacuate Iain to travel the last few yards needed to reach him. Instead, UN staff here [were] forced to seek an alternative route to rescue him. This caused a delay and made sure that the work done by a bullet was completed by the Israeli army's refusal to respect the most elementary standards of humanity. The shock of that day's events does not come in isolation. For two years, United Nations staff have been subject to escalating harassment and violence by Israel's military, so that the protection supposed to be afforded by the blue letters of the UN is being steadily eroded. UN staff--international and Palestinian alike--have been verbally abused, stripped, beaten, shot at and killed by Israeli soldiers. There has been armed interference with UN employees and vehicles, including attacks on UN ambulances and medical personnel. UNRWA schools, health clinics and offices have been hit by bombs, rockets, tank shells and gunfire even during daytime, thereby endangering the lives of staff and, in the case of schools, the lives of refugee children. Buildings occupied by UN staff have been repeatedly damaged during Israeli airforce bombing. Tragically Iain Hook was not the first person working with the UN to die at the hands of the IDF this year. In March, Kamal Hamdan was shot and killed while travelling in a clearly marked UNRWA ambulance in the West Bank. In April, Husni Amer died in Israeli military custody in Jenin after, according to witnesses, receiving a brutal beating by the soldiers at the time of his arrest. From its silence, we presume the Israeli authorities have ignored UN requests for an investigation and report of these two incidents, and have not seen fit to take any disciplinary action against the soldiers involved. ___________________________________________________ To us, this seems to confirm a pattern of utter contempt on the part of the Israeli army for the lost lives of these men, the safety of UN staff or the minimum standards imposed by international law which should protect UN staff and other humanitarian workers. The official military spokesperson's statement on the initial investigation into Iain's killing asserts that shots were fired from UNRWA's compound in the Jenin refugee camp towards Israel's forces. This contradicts eyewitness accounts of our colleagues in Jenin and the information relayed to UNRWA's Field Office by Iain just prior to his death. The most charitable characterization one can make of this statement is that it lacks any credibility. To us, it has all the makings of propaganda designed to tarnish the reputation of the UN, excuse the killing of an unarmed man and perpetuate the false charge that UNRWA shelters terrorists, in the public mind. We strongly request that any investigation carried out by the Israeli government will be independent, transparent and impartial. We strongly request that the Israeli government will bring those responsible for Iain's killing promptly to justice. Only the most lawless societies allow gunmen in uniform the impunity to kill aid workers without fear of punishment. We are confident Israel does not wish to see its troops painted in the same colours as the militiamen who have stalked some of the world's other conflicts. As UN staff, we expect the protection of the Israeli government to enable us to undertake our humanitarian responsibilities wherever they are needed. This is not a matter of courtesy or favour, but rather an implementation of Israel's own obligations under international law and its express commitment to UNRWA to facilitate the Agency's operations in the occupied territories. Israel's often stated regret at the loss of civilian lives is not an impervious shield that can deflect all criticism. It is a shield that is, in our view, tarnished by the attempts of Israeli spokespersons to link Iain's death to wider political issues or to claim that the UN was somehow culpable for his killing. ____________________________________________________________ In these tragic circumstances, rather than easily uttered regrets, we expect the Israeli Government take the necessary steps to stop the harassment, beating and killing of UN staff. ________________________________________________________________ We expect respect and protection as United Nations employees. As international staff members, we hope and expect to return alive to our own countries and families after our work here is done. We hope and expect no less for our Palestinian colleagues so they can live and work in safety until the parties to the conflict eventually find the road to peace. __________________________ Sally Airs, Australia; Naomi Ando, Japan; Ignacio Artaza Zuriarrain, Spain; Alan Barnie, Australia; Peter Bartu, Australia; Pamela Bell, USA; Susan Brannon, USA; Marlise Brenner, Australia; Deidre Connolly, USA; Marisa Consolate Kemper, Canada; Joanna Corbin, UK; B. Scott Custer Jr., USA; Omar Dajani, USA; Calvin Dasilvio, USA; Isabelle dela Cruz, Germany; Marc De la Motte, Italy-France; Mark Dennis, USA; Ray Dolphin, Ireland; Juliet Dryden, UK; Teresa Fallarme, Philippines; Jean-Marie Frentz, Luxembourg; Christopher Gabelle, UK; Jagannathan Gopalan, India; Philippe Grandet, France; Pentti Hakonen, Finland; Roger Hearn, Australia; Grigor Hovmannisyan, Armenia; Thierry Kaiser, France; Sima Kanaan, Jordan; Elizabeth Kawambwa, Tanzania; Jan Kolaas, Norway; Antje Kunst, Germany; Marc Lassouaoui, France; Brett Lodge, Australia; Ali Mahmuda, Canada; Henrik Mathiesen, Norway; Carlos Mazuera, Columbia; Paul McCann, UK; Amanda Melville, Australia; Severine Meyer, France; Zeina Mogarbel, Spain; Merethe Nedrebo, Norway; Gustav Nordstrom, Finland; Patrick O'neil, Ireland; Melissa Parke, Australia; Joachim Paul, Germany; Alex Pollock, UK; Gerhard Pulfer, Austria; Timothy Rothermel, USA; Sam Rose, UK; Ehab Shanti, Canada; Shahwan Huda, Jordan; Jean-Luc Siblot, France; Guy Siri, France; Elna Sondergaard, Denmark; Juerg Staudenmann, Switzerland; Angelo Stefanini, Italy; Gretta Van Bleek, Netherlands; Arjan Van Houwelingen, Netherlands; Andrew Whitley, UK; Hanna Wintsch, Switzerland; Cecilia Wreh-McGill, USA; Ros Young, UK; Kirsten Zaat, Australia

3 I would like to thank you for your position and wish you more progress.

1 Surely they are just pretending to be stupid?

2 Well, it sounds funky to me...... But I also have a problem with our policy towards Israel and especially Ariel Sharon, who, it seems to me is no different than any murderous dictator and who by all rights should be taken out permanetly. Cindy

3 Fu-- AP! Rod Stanton Cerritos

1 kid, twice is a coincidence. five times is a pattern. It's not necessarily bad, but if you want to explore it further, email me.

2 Heh. Five is a pattern, you're right, and it's pathetic.

1 And the UN isn't yet in Southern Asia either whereas the United States is all over it, several thousand marines, planes full of supplies, helicopters, hospitals and a 200 bed hospital will be built by the United States. From us alone, not just the government, funds from Americans is astronomical because that is the way WE are when it comes to disasters. Jeb Bush is on his way to that area now, not just as the President's brother but because he's been hit in his state and been through these kinds of catastrophe's except this one goes in the records books. Many bodies have yet to be recovered under all the rubble. Cindy

2 What short memories we have. Forgot Butros Butros already. He was just a corrupt as Kofi. Which BTW is very corrupt. Rod Stanton

1 That is so disgusting, Chad but by their rules, you can marry as many women that you can afford. In the Islam religion, this is one thing that should definitely be banned. How could he ever get bored with 58 wives? Man, that's just gross. It would be nice to find just one wonderful man permanently committed to just me and then you have this which really did crack me up. Cindy

1 The comments over at Wizbang are memorable too. I think these people need to come out of their dark holes and get some sun.

2 That crap amazes me even. What are the freaks smoking?

3 I think they may be smoking cow pies. Obviously from the shit runnin out their btains.

4 Hey, the hurricanes were Bush's fault, too. Geeze, don't you people get it?! He's the anti-Christ... which means he's anti-Earth. /tin foil crumpled up

5 Well, DUH! Bush should have banned tsunamis. No blood for sea water!

6 Bush did not ban tsunamis, therefore that is proof that he is responsible. Ask any Kerry supporting liberal.

7 If God didn't want the destruction in Indonesia he would not have allowed it. Ask any Muslim cleric. Thats what the rag head Islamic clerics said about 9/11.

8 193 leaders of countries in the world and everyone looks to Bush for everything good or bad. Are the other 192 incompetant dorks?

1 Some folk are mean just because they like to be mean. Read up on Sadam's sons or Joe Stalin or Yasser Arafat. Meaness for the pure sake of meaness.

2 That happened one night in my entire neighborhood and they were all Jeep Grande Cherokee's. Totally ridiculous. Sorry it happened to you. Cindy

3 Oh so it's an SUV thing? They could have at least had the decency to spray paint ETA on my car then. Instead I get vandalized by little punks. Where are the pros when you need them?

4 I could see someone doing that just to steal the ice scraper. Not kidding that thing is INVALUABLE and yet I always seem to misplace mine. I am that girl scraping ice off her winshield with a plastic spatula and her nails underneath her gloves.

1 I think bare handed fishing would be a real challenge. But then I believe if you can not look some one in the eye before you kill him maybe you should not push the button. Rod Stanton Cerritos

2 They do that with flatheads and blues in the rivers here in NC, too. Pretty gutsy, you can't see down there, and there might be a snapping turtle inside that log or pipe instead.

3 This is why I refuse to recognize Missouruh.

4 You do not like the "Show Me" state?

5 Noodling is best in South Mississippi. The challenge is do you find a cotton mouth, alligator snapping turtle or alligator. Nay. Not for me. Best fishing down here lately has been for square grouper, (aka bails of green weed the goes up in smoke). Also smaller bails of white stuff. So many the the law says you can't pick them up even to turn in to police. Too much temptation. Oh officer, I found this bail in the water and was bringing it to the police when you stopped my boat. I guess they do have a point. Noodling or square grouper, you're taking a chance of getting bit.

6 im 15 and i "noodle" or grabblin is what we call it in alabama ive pulled some big fish out lately biggest 32lbs i thought it was stupid to put ur hand in a hole but once i pulled my first one out i was hooked

1 ok, what other age demographic do you mean Chad? Remember whom you are talking to when you answer!!! :-) Cindy

2 Age doesn't play into the equation I was refering to. It doesn't matter what age this demographic is, they still can't drive an SUV. Come to think of it, they can't drive anything that's not a golf ball.

3 :-(

1 Anyone with an IQ above room temp (to quote a famous SoCal warrior G.S. Patton) can see that the war on terror is very effective. Of course that means no one in the MSM can see it. We have a long way to go, but we've covered a lot of ground already. Not one person in Americahas been hurt by a MuslimFascists in the last three years. *VERY SUCCESSFUL* No property destroyed by MuslimFascists in the same time period. Again *VERY SUCCESSFUL* Rod Stanton Cerritos

2 Nice post, hotshot.

3 Coors is NOT pisswater!!!

4 Thanks for your comments guys. I am having a blast here. (Thank you Rusty!) Jake, sorry to break the news.

5 WHY WAS THE TARGETED ASSASSINATION OF IAIN HOOK A TOP BRITISH UN OFFICIAL BY THE ISRAELI DEFENSE FORCE COVERED UP? by Dr. Jack Shepard WHY WAS THE TARGETED ASSASSINATION OF IAIN HOOK A TOP BRITISH UN OFFICIAL BY THE ISRAELI DEFENSE FORCE COVERED UP BY PRIME MINISTER TONY BLAIR? Dr. Jack Shepard asks, “ Why was the Targeted Assassination of Iain Hook a top British UN official by the Israeli Defense Force covered up by prime Minister Tony Blair?” Excerpts published in the Syria Times political section on June 30, 2003 by Dr. Jack Shepard. Over six months ago Prime Minister Tony Blair; knew all the facts that an Israeli Army Sniper was ordered to trap and later in the day assassinate Iain Hook, a former paratrooper from Felixstowe who was employed by crown Agents and paid for by the British Department for International Development to head the UN project to reconstruct the Jenin Refugee Camp as a warning to the Secretary General Kofi Annan. Well aware of the facts that many other UN staff members both International and Palestinian alike have been verbally abused, stripped, beaten, shot at and killed by Israeli soldiers; including attacks on UN ambulances, Medical Personnel, UNWRA schools, Health Clinics and Offices have been hit by bombs, rockets, tank shells and gunfire by Israel soldiers endangering the lives of UN staff, This was written in an open letter by the UN International Staff working in the Palestinian Occupied Territories called “OPT: UN Staff call for Justice” “visit the UNWAR web site”– www.reliefweb.int especially pages: 1) www.reliefweb.int/w/rwb.nsfc7ca0eaf6c79faae852567af003c69...? OpenDocument 2) www.reliefweb.int/w/rwb.nsf/c7ca0eaf6c79faae852567af003c6...? OpenDocument 3) www.reliefweb.int/w/rwb.nsf/c7ca0eaf6c79faae852567af003c6...? OpenDocument 4) www.reliefweb.int/w/rwb.nsf/c7ca0eaf6c79faae852567af003c6...? OpenDocument 5) www.reliefweb.int/w/rwb.nsf/c7ca0eaf6c79faae852567af003c6...? Prime Minister Tony Blair continues to cover-up these facts and even remains silent to his knowledge of Intelligence reports convening the planning and later the Assassination of a Fellow British UN Staffer who was trapped for hours in his UN Official Compound before he was shot in the back on Nov. 22, 2002. Because Mr. Hook’s Assassination was of profound importance, Mr. Blair covered-up Mr. Hook’s assassination because it might compromise his propaganda blitz for the urgency of war Iraq and MORE IMPORTANT weaken his position in dealing with the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict. At the time even the Head Rabbi of England said the policies of the Ariel Sharon Government in Israel toward UN staff and the Palestinian people made him feel uncomfortable being a Jew. According to an article published in the Guardian; Wednesday May 7, 2003 written by Chris Mc Greal from Jerusalem ; No one believed the Israeli story that the sniper thought Iain was holding a gun, said one UN official close to the investigation. This soldier was a trained commando. He had a sights that magnified at least three times and he was only 20 meters (65ft) away. What really concerns us is the lack of an apology or remorse. The message that goes out to every Israeli soldier is that it is OK to kill the UN. During my 7 month investigation into the murder of Iain Hook I was very fortunate to interview UN staff members that were actually living and working with Iain Hook up until his assassination and conducted several telephone interviews with Paul Mc Cann; the UNWRA spokesperson concerned with the Palestinian occupied territories. I was told while some members of the UN staff were in Rome, Italy; Iain Hook one night after dinner at their hotel expressed to his UN staff members that he was very concerned for his and their safety after a very hostile man on a motorcycle drove up to him (Iain Hook), several weeks before his murder saying to him that; “We want you to send a message to that Fucking Nigger; Kofi Annan and you will know when we send it.” This confirms that Iain Hook’s murder was no accident but a well planned assassination organized by the Israeli defense force to send a direct message to the UN. One must assume that this planned assassination included very high level officials in the present Israeli Government of Ariel Sharon because of the extent of the cover-up. Until Iain Hook’s murderer; the Israeli commando sniper is bought to justice we will not know the extent of the collaboration of Mr. hook’s assassination. Mr. Hook’s Assassination operation included a major Israeli incursion into the Jenin Refugee Camp, surrounding the Jenin UN Office Compound for almost 4 hours; WHY?; blocking of the entrance so Mr. Hook and his staff were literally trapped in their compound, when Paul Wolstenholme and Mr. hook tried to leave their UN Compound through the front entrance a very powerful compression grenade was used to block their exit literally throwing Paul Wolstenholme back several meters and most important after the shooting of Mr. hook, the British UN manger of the UN Office Compound, an emergency ambulance was prevented from reaching Iain Hook by the Israeli defense Force at the front entrance to the UN Compound. These same UN staff members living and working with Iain hook in the Jenin described the events of Mr. Hook’s murder very clearly to me. From about 9.30 AM in the morning until his assassination approximately 13.30; 2 sharp shooters had taken control of 2 apartments on the top of 2 apartment buildings situated to the right and left of the entrance to the UNWRA compound and for hours laser beams could be seen in the dust; often on Iain Hook’s shoulders. WHY? It was very obvious to Mr. Hook’s colleagues that the Israeli Army Commando after over 3 hours of watching Iain Hook 54, who was tall with ginger hair, that the sniper using a powerful aiming sight which gave him a very close look at his victim knew that he was assassinating Iain Hook, a British Subject who headed the Jenin reconstruction project. The spokesperson concerning the Palestinian Occupied territories, when I asked him about the very powerful compression grenade used around 12.00 to block Iain Hook’s and Paul Wolstensolme’s exit from the front entrance of the Jenin UN Compound; he was very surprised that this very important event was not included in Chris Mc Greal’s May 7, 2003– article in the Guardian; “Why was an unarmed Briton shot in the back?” The Israeli Defense Force used this very powerful compression grenade to literally trap Iain Hook in his UN compound until the Israeli Sniper a well trained Army Commando using his magnified sight shot Iain Hook in the back ( a tactic the Israeli Defense Force has often used in the last years to send a sign as a warning to others– like a signature of assassination ) as he was walking away from the sniper in the direction of the entrance to the UN office compound only a few meters from where Paul Wolstensolme was sitting. Iain Hook was shot in the back, not by accident but as a warning to other UN staff. Iain’s assassin used one fast-high velocity hard point bullet that entered Iain Hook’s upper right shoulder and exited in two fragments either side of Iain Hook’s belly button to shoot him at approximately 13.30, November 22, 2002. The Guardian newspaper article written by Chris mc Greal published on May 7, 2003 entitled, “Why was an unarmed Briton shot in the back?" stated that, the day after the Israeli Commando Sniper shot Mr. hook as he stood in the UN Compound in the Jenin Refugee last Nov. 22, 2002. Israel promised Mr. straw a full accounting of the killing. Now Israel says its inquiry has been put aside. Today Mr. Hook’s colleagues accuse Israel of covering up “ a cold-blooded murder” and the Britain and the United Nations of complicity by quietly trying to bury the truth to avoid a Political Confrontation with Israel. These are the words of 64 United Nation Foreign Staff Members working in the Palestinian Territories used in their signed open letter which blamed the Israeli army for the “cold-blooded– murder” of Mr. Hook, these are not words that my investigation proved. My investigation only confirmed what 64 United Nations Foreign colleagues of Iain Hook said. Much of the pressure for a full account of Mr. Hook’s death came from other UN Foreign staff members working in the occupied Palestinian territories. These brave 64 UN Foreign staff members working in the occupied Palestinian Territories signed an open Letter which blamed the Israeli Army for Mr. Hook’s death and called for an end to what it described as the Israeli military refusal to respect the most elementary standards of humanity. The Guardian Newspaper article continued that the United Nations inquiry was carried out by a former member of the United States Naval Intelligence Branch; John Logan. John Logan was quoted by Chris Mc Greal in his Guardian Newspaper article that John Logan stated to him, that he cut short his investigation because he had been threatened; you can contact the archives of the Guardian Newspaper for a copy of Chris Mc Greal’s May 7, 2003 article; “Why was an unarmed Briton shot in the back?” You can contact the Director General of the UNRWA, by visiting their web site at www.reliefweb.int to get contact emails and telephone numbers to request a copy of the “OPT:UN Staff call for Justice” an open letter posted and signed by 64 UN Foreign Staff. Their open letter includes these statements, “ We strongly request that the Israeli Government will bring those responsible for Iain’s killing to justice. Only the most lawless societies allow gunman in uniform the impunity to kill aid workers without fear of punishment.” Their open letter continues, “ UN staff– international and Palestinian alike– have been verbally abused, stripped, beaten, shot and killed by Israeli soldiers. Tragically Iain Hook was not the first person working with the UN to die at the hands of the IDF this year. In March, Kamal Hamdan was shot and killed while traveling in a clearly marked UNRWA ambulance in the West Bank. In April, Huni Amer died in Israeli military custody in Jenin after, according to witnesses, receiving a brutal beating by the soldiers at the time of his arrest. From its silence, we presume the Israeli authorities have ignored UN requests for an investigation and report of these incidents, and have not seen fit to take any disciplinary action against the soldiers involved. To us, this seems to confirm a pattern of utter contempt on the part of the Israeli army for the lost lives of these men, the safety of UN staff or minimum standards imposed by international law which should protect UN staff and other humanitarian workers. The official military spokesperson’s statement on the initial investigation into Iain’s killing ...contradicts eyewitness accounts of our colleagues in Jenin and information relayed by Iain to the UNRWA Field Office just prior to his death. The most charitable characterization one can make of the Official Israeli Military Spokesperson’s statement is that it lacks any credibility... We strongly request that the Israeli Government will bring those responsible for Iain’s killing promptly to justice. Only the MOST LAWLESS SOCIETIES ALLOW GUNMEN IN UNIFORM THE IMPUNITY TO KILL AID WORKERS WITHOUT FEAR OF PUNISHMENT. In these tragic circumstances, rather than easily uttered regrets, we expect the Israeli Government take the necessary steps to stop the harassment, beating and killing of UN staff. As international staff members, we hope and expect to return alive to our own countries and families after our work here ( in the Palestinian Occupied Territories) is done.” These words written and sign by 64 UN foreign staff and colleagues of Iain Hook in their open letter, “OPT: UN staff call for justice” are their words not mine. The UN staff working with Iain Hook at the time of his murder only confirm the facts of my investigation that the Murder of Iain Hook was not an accident but a well planned Targeted Assassination by the IDF to send a warning to Secretary General Kofi Annan. A bellicose former General Sharon has always been a controversial figure, headstrong, volatile and very violent. You Mr. Tony Blair as Prime Minister by continuing to cover-up the assassination of Iain Hook and not even making public the facts as the UN staff themselves say that, “ UN staff-International and Palestinian alike– have been verbally abused, stripped, beaten, shot at and killed by Israeli Soldiers” only help the Government of Ariel Sharon to continue it’s volatile and violent policies which are THE ROOT CAUSE THAT motivated the Terrorists who attacked the World Trade Center;–on Sept. 11 and continue to terrorize the world. The War on Terrorism can only be won when we have the States of Israel and Palestinian living side by side in Peace, President Bush’s vision. The simple truth is it is the policies of Ariel Sharon’s Government that condones that an Israeli Commando Sniper can even Target and Assassinate Iain Hook a UN British Aid Worker, without even a criticism from Prime Minister Tony Blair and the Policies of the Sharon Government that condones the killings and crushing of hundreds, soon thousands of innocent Palestinians men, women, and children has lead to such a feeling of injustice in the Muslim World that out of revenge for this injustice and hopeless caused Ariel Sharon’s very violent Policies toward Palestinians created the environment where terrorists began their call for their Holy War out of desperation. The continuation of Ariel Sharon’s very violent out of control policies toward the Palestinian civilians impedes World Peace. The World will never have peace unless these policies of Ariel Sharon’s Government targeted assassinations of UN staff and Palestinians people and his indiscriminate murder of Palestinians civilians are exposed and immediately stopped. Prime Minister Tony Blair continues to cover-up Ariel Sharon’s very violent policies ; and his lack of criticism of the policies of the Ariel Sharon Government, shows his complicity and has caused the world crisis we have today. This complicity makes peace in the Middle East impossible. Being the history of Tony Blair’s looking the other way concerning the unfair situation and suffering of the Palestinian People; only President George W. Bush is capable to bring peace to the World by his planned recognized of Palestine and Israel living side by side in Peace. I Thank God; that President George W. Bush was reelected President of the United States. Now President Bush is capable implementing his greater Middle East Policy of Israel and Palestine living side by side in Peace. President Bush can now demand that The Government of Ariel Sharon immediately change course because it is increasingly evident that the Present Policies of Ariel Sharon’s Government toward the Palestinian People are not supported by the majority of the Israeli citizens and the vast majority ( almost 100%) of the Countries in the World. The present policies of Ariel Sharon Government have proved to be a vast failure and a very traumatic one which have drawn the world in to almost a Civil War because of his policies of injustice and unfairness in his treatment of the Palestinian people. Ariel Sharon’s abuses of the Palestinian People and his refusal to discuss the creation of Palestine leaves President George W. Bush no choice but dictate and impose his solution to the Middle East Crisis cause by Ariel Sharon Policies. The Arab disaffection with the unfair situation started in Palestine and now is spreading through out the world. The World Leaders and President George W. Bush can not wait any longer for the refusal of the Ariel Sharon Government to listen. The incoherence of the policies of the Sharon Government lack clearly defined objectives and is deeply disquieting to majority of Israeli citizens and world leaders. It is now immediately necessary the systematic use of involuntary imposed pressure on the Ariel Sharon Government to immediate abandon his occupation of the Palestinian Territories and the immediate creation of Palestine, even with a period of 5 years for Palestine and Israel to work out all the details of border etc. Once the State of Palestine is recognized by the United Nations and is even imposed on Israel and the Israeli Defense Force returns to Israel then and only then will the World be back on the road to Peace. The Policies of the Sharon Government will no longer hold the whole hostage. Once Palestine is recognized the War on Terrorism will be well on it’s way to being won through Peace because it is impossible to be won through continued violence. The recognition of Palestine will be accepted with such happiness throughout the world that peace will be possible in Iraq very quickly; and our American Coalition forces can very soon be returning home. President George W. Bush greatest coup, the immediate recognition of Palestine will persuade the Arab World; that American is your friend and partner in Peace. After almost 60 years it has to be accepted that Israeli’s and Palestinians are incapable of talking let allow making Peace. The recognition of Palestine by the Leaders of the World lead by President Bush has to be imposed on both the Israeli’s and Palestinians. This one act will establish strategic links between the leaders of the Arab world and American. Our American Government, our American People and our American Soldiers will never be held responsible for the policies of Ariel Sharon’s Government ever again. By President Bush leading the Leaders of the World in imposing the recognition of Palestine on Israel; President Bush will create a sound partnership between Israel and Palestine that they have not and will never be able to do by themselves as history has proven. Complicity makes peace in the Middle East impossible. When UN staff call for justice and protection they are not being anti-Semitic; they just wish to have a Jewish Israeli Government that respects human life where peace is possible. Until the leaders of the world learn from these brave UN staffers who work in the Occupied Territories of Palestine that to criticize the policies of the Government of Ariel Sharon is not to be called anti-Semitic. It is only to criticize Ariel Sharon because they know that unless Sharon changes his policies, we will never have world peace. There are many other Jewish leaders in Israel who want peace, who are praying for peace. Who would never cover-up or support the out of control Policies of Ariel Sharon’s Government which allows gunmen in uniform the impunity to kill United Nation aid workers like Iain Hook or allow Israeli soldiers to kill Palestinian United Nation Employees like Husni Amer who died in Israeli custody in Jenin after receiving a brutal beating by several Israeli soldiers at the time of his arrest. The world leaders must learn from the brave UN staffers that criticizing the killing and assassinating of UN aid workers and hundreds of Palestinians is not anti-Semitic but to not criticize this criminal behavior is complicity. Dr. Jack Shepard is a past American Service Officer and Middle East Specialist. Dr. Shepard has had articles published in both Military and Civilian Newspapers over the past 34 years. www.shepardusgov.com www.flickr.com/photos/dr_jack_shepard/ dr-jack-shepard-peace-maker.blogspot.com/

6 WHY WAS THE TARGETED ASSASSINATION OF IAIN HOOK A TOP BRITISH UN OFFICIAL BY THE ISRAELI DEFENSE FORCE COVERED UP? Well Dr. Jack, I have it on good authority (Jewish/Neocon Cabal Daily Newsletter) that we knocked off Hook because he was too close to the truth. Nothing personal, just business. Thanks for writing.

7 Next time you wish to write a book do it. Maybe we'll buy it, maybe we won't. But please put it where it belongs. In a book store.

8 Paranoia?

1 Colorado bad? Try an old Mississippi farmer in a 20 year old pickup truck.

1 Pimp My Jawa?

2 Hey all you need is a number on the side and they will be sand crawler races on tatoine and just imagine what its like in the pit stop?

3 Hey, it seems to me that you finally getting the hang of Rusty's work. Stick around; you're doing allright. Cindy

4 Rusty was lucky to have you Chad. Everyone else he tried to also guest host (and I even said I would) all bailed on him; you're the only one that didn't and I give you a lot of credit for working so hard. If you need help - hollah!! Cindy

5 Damn right! Cranky is just, well, cranky. Though I love the jawas.

6 You're doing fine, Chad! Screw em if they can't take a joke! I'm just a stone's throw away in the Metroplex...oh, by the way, did you hear that they are NOT going to say Metroplex anymore when they refer to the D/FW area? What the hell is THAT all about? arrrgggh.

7 Thanks for the kind words. And yes, Chad is da bomb. I was just trying to offset his quality with a little, um, not-quality.

1 Those aren't just rubber bands. They are weapons of class disruption.

2 oh damn (hi rusty) how'd i end up here ? was looking for hot star wars chick pundits.

3 Pretty soon they'll be banning pencils.

4 What's the matter? Teachers can't control their students anymore? There are a lot more important things in this world than a school debate over rubbing bands. How ludicrious. Cindy

5 Every once in awhile, it's nice to read "stupid news." Good Job to you and Brian. Cindy

1 The Chicken Roaster? I put Festivus second only to The Bizarro Jerry (the one where Jerry dates man hands).

2 All good episodes...the best, though, is clearly the one where Kramer finds the old Merv Griffin set and puts it up in his apartment. That, or the "Serenity Now!" episode.

3 Bah! Now you both are just being fusilli.

1 I know, sigh. I'm a native New Yawker myself, and my friends and family STILL think we're breaking in horses and milking the cows! Either that, or they think that all the women are like Sue Ellen and all the men like J.R.!!

2 Anti-Texan Bigotry is everywhere. My son said something with a Southern accent last night and then said that there's my Texas slang. I wanted to kick him. He heard it on a commercial. Most irritating it is!

3 True, true! My wife is from a small town in East Texas, and has a much heavier accent than I, who grew up in a city in Central Texas. She literally did have an oil well in her back yard, but there were none where I grew up. I wasn't part of the FFA or owned a huge belt buckle, wore boots or even owned a cowboy hat. But I love Texas, I love the Texas spirit, and, well, I love Texas! I noticed that there are very few other states where the people love their state and want to settle there, heck most want to get out. However most Texans can't get enough, of well, Texas! Craig (Only seven references to Texas in this post.)

4 Oh, and yeah, I have to admit I hate Austin, so it is fitting that MTV picked it, since I also hate MTV (Sixth Street, that it is cool though). Craig (Disclaimer : Writer graduated from Texas A&M)

5 I don't mind Austin because it is a fun town, but it's the Liberal part of Texas. Of course there's nothing wrong with that, but when you spent five years out in Lubbock, TX (city with the most churches per capita in the U.S.) Austin is like another world. The problem with the media elite ragging on Texas is that they are just jealous we can use the phrases Texas-sized, ya'll and y'ant to without hesitation or embarassment. When they use it they sound like an outsider trying to either fit in or poke fun. Actually, I don't think I've ever used two of those three phrases out of a joking context.

6 "Texas? Only steers and queers come from Texas" Gunnery Sgt. Hartman, from Full Metal Jacket Directions to get to Texas from North Carolina: Go west until you smell shit, go south until you step in it.

7 MTV? Do they have television in Texas?

8 People hate Texans for the same reason they hate Californians. We are too damn proud and love our states too damn much. That said the only good time I had in Texas was getting drunk after getting a speeding ticket at a bar in Odessa and watching cowboys, well basically watching their scrotums due to the tightness of their jeans, flip girls around. I wasn't impressed.

9 They don't even wanna go there with me.

10 Considering how many times I've heard Texans refer to the US as "Texas and the 49 lesser states", I'd advise you to be careful chucking rocks from your glass houses. There's an equal amount of evidence that Texans have an anti-unTexan bias.

11 Where is a better place to live?

12 Greyrooster: I'd take my home state over Texas any day. As a matter of fact, I loved living here enough to give up a good job and a balmy climate to move back. I've been to Texas, I was underwhelmed.

13 Why has a post intended for humor turned into a state pissing contest? Lighten up people. Texans aren't your enemy. It's those damn North Dakotians!

14 What state would that be Brian?

15 Iggy, I'm an Oregonian, and I have the webbed feet to prove it.

16 Brian B: Surely you must be kidding. I thought you guys were starving to death. Anyway, that's what Californians think. Why else would so many of you move south? My thoughts. San Antone east is Okay. West Texas you can keep. I prefer green. West Oregon is Okay. You can keep eastern Oregon. Taters, Onions and desert. Except for Farewell Bend which I find enchanting. I guess Oregon is Okay. If anything is going on to make more than just making it.

17 On second thought the Williamette Valley is beautiful. Coos bay has great fishing. Bend Oregon was a great vacation place (haven't been their in years). Crater lake at dawn is fabulous. Port Orsford is neat when the fog is in. Medford is pretty and the trout fishing is unbelievable. Rouge River is one of a kind. Have to rethink my previous post.

18 Greyrooster, Yeah, the economy here sucks, but it's picking up. We could spend a whole thread on the reasons for that. If you're gonna make the economic health of a state the sole criterion for judgubg it,hell, I'd give Texas props over us in a heartbeat. But for natural beauty, it's hard to beat. And the cool thing is, except for maybe Hawaii, you can name any state in the Union and I'll show you part of Oregon that will remind you of it. I prefer green too, which is why I love it here. There are parts of Eastern Oregon that are beautiful and fascinating. Like Paleontology? Try the John Day Fossil Beds. The Bend area has some kick-ass skiing, but it's considered Central Oregon, not Eastern. The Wallowa mountains in the northeast corner remind a lot of people of the alps, very sharp, steep, and craggy. As for more than making it, that's subjective. We have a saying up here, "Pay me in scenery." From the freeway I frive on to and from work each day, you can see a mountain (The Three Sisters) that has snow year round. You can take a city bus to the McKenzie, one of the best fly fishing rivers in the country. a half hour drive puts me in the middle of the forest. And, most importantly, it's where I was born. For others, if you love your home state as much asI do mine, more power to you, and Irespec that, but don't pity me just because I'm not there. This is where i'm happy. The Wilamette valley (where I live now) is OK, but it's too flat for my tastes. I grew up in roseburg, which is in souther Oregon, a more mountainous region (though we always called them "hills", I'm told they're mountains). You pegged it on the other descriptions, and I'd say that Crater Lake is the most beautiful spot inthe state. Amazing how blue the water is. Bend's become an even bigger vacation destination, especially if you ski or golf.

19 Dude is definitely more accurate the yeehaw in Austin. Much more of a hippie culture here.

20 I've heard tales of how liberal Austin is. To be honestly self-critical, I have a hard time believing it could be as bad as Berkeley-on-the-Willamette, aka Eugene.

21 Well howdy, coming from Toyah Texas (very small town), I can say that most Texans are really not the cowboys people say they are. As for me, I may really be a cowboy in my ranch but who cares? There are cowboys in Chily and Mexico, doesn't men they all say Yee Haa now does it? I do though ... but hey, everything's bigger in Texas and no state is friendlier and nicer! Y'all be good now y'hear?

22 Here is an interesting thought, my fiance is an Aussie. I fianlly took him to Texas (Dallas and all around the Austin area). He said he had never been anywhere that reminded him more of Australia- in attitude and places. (however we didnt get to hit the Rio Grande Valley...which I still think is in another dimension)

1 Yes and poor $zillionaire John Edwards will need some work. Rod Stanton Cerritos

2 One has to remember most of these frivolous lawsuits are pushed by attorneys on consignment. Hoping for a settlement by companies who don't wish the cost of defense. Right or wrong has little to do with it. Cost of defense, bad publicity, verses cost of settlement. If consignment attorneys where held responsible for court courts of frivolous lawsuits it would slow up quick.

3 can I sue Wal-Mart for accepting a stolen and forged check on my account? They carded the MAN and even wrote HIS DL number on my check. Obviously it was a woman's check and it was just one check torn out of the book. It was for over $100. ***identity theft victim...

4 I want to sue walmart for a situation that took place to me that caused me to lose integrity in the community and then completely was found to be unsubstantiated. I do not have money to file a civil suit and do not know how to go about it. How do you find consignment attorneys? Can someone tell me how to go about suing walmart.

5 My son slashed both his wrist in a walmart super center. Had the knives not been in an isle my son would not have lost use of both his hands. He has depression issues. I was talking to a former walmart manager that said We indeed do have the right to sue walmart. The knives shouldnt have been out at all. any ideas?

6 I'm suing Wal-Mart for carding me when I handed them a signed Visa Debit Card. The refused the sale and evicted me from the store. I am asking for $30,000,000.00 . It is agaist the Visa policy to card customers that present a signed Visa Card. Other retailer don't ask for ID! Wal-mart will harrass every customer in an attempt to stop theft. It's downright wrong!

7 Well, it sounds like a bunch of spoiled children here. I cannot believe Hillberry vs. Wal-Mart is tring to sue Walmart for requesting id when using a VISA. I suppose the nimrod would rather lose the VISA and have someone else use it illegally at Walmart. They card you for your protection!!! Get off your drugs and use your brain to reason out reality!!!

8 "Well, it sounds like a bunch of spoiled children here. I cannot believe Hillberry vs. Wal-Mart is tring to sue Walmart for requesting id when using a VISA. I suppose the nimrod would rather lose the VISA and have someone else use it illegally at Walmart. They card you for your protection!!! Get off your drugs and use your brain to reason out reality!!!" Posted by someone who calls him or herself reason-what a joke! If you were reasonable, then you would expect big corporations to follow the same LAWS and CONTRACTS that the rest of us average citizens must follow. THe fact that you are so dumb as to not understand that it is VIsa that protects the customer against losses as their millions of commericals tell you. Walmart in asking for identification is only trying to protect themselves and to hell with the customers rights. I would advise you to check out some of the Visa commerical which pushes you to use their card for the sole selling point of NO ID REQUIRED as opposed to writing a check, which requires one. Since you are a name caller, and one who calls names when they do not even know what they are talking about, leads me to believe that you are a flat out stupid a**. You probably believed Bush when he said Saddam had weapons of mass destruction, and worse, probably still believe it in light of the fact that there is now evidence showing that Bush didn't care if he had weapons, he was starting the war anyway! Let me clue you in on something Trailer Park homie, if you looked at the documents on that website, like I did, you would see that Wal-Mart is pushing super hard with all the tricks to get the suit dismissed. I also wrote the guy and learned that Walmart was willing to settle if he would sign an agreement not to tell anyone else that it was illegal. He declined. So YOU get off the drugs and appreciate that someone has the balls to fight for the rights of idiots like you, who frankly are't deserving of such rights to begin with. HAH, your so dumb that you give yours away. I know that you probably do very little real reading, but look on google for a sample merchant agreement (like the one Walmart signed) and it is clear that retailers who card are breaking the contract. Now if you rent an apartment and break the lease, you get sued! Why shouldn't Walmart be treated just like every other lawbreaker?

9 Julie Doering Pierce..."The Walmart Way" Not Sam's Way...Walmart XIII AD www.walmartassociatescentral.com

10 wal-mart didn't pay me last check after i was fired. it's been 2mths now still no check..what should i do?

11 Sue them.

12 I agree with you.

13 MY MOTHER WORKED AT WAL MART AND TRIPPED OVER A CO WORKER AROUND THE COUNTER ON THE FLOOR MEASURING SHELFS DURING THE RUSH HOUR. SHE BROKE BOTH HER ARMS, SHE JUST GET WORKMAN COMP, I THINK SHE SHOULD BE COMPENSATED FOR ALL THE TORTURE SHE HAS BEEN THROUGH. SHE CAN NOT EVEN BATH HER SELF, MY SIBLINGS AND MYSELF HAVE TAKEN TIME OFF WORK TO HELP HER, THIS IS GETTING HARD.AND WORKMAN COMP DONT EVEN COVER HER BILLS.

14 MY MOTHER WORKED AT WAL MART AND TRIPPED OVER A CO WORKER AROUND THE COUNTER ON THE FLOOR MEASURING SHELFS DURING THE RUSH HOUR. SHE BROKE BOTH HER ARMS, SHE JUST GETS WORKMAN COMP, I THINK SHE SHOULD BE COMPENSATED FOR ALL THE TORTURE SHE HAS BEEN THROUGH. SHE CAN NOT EVEN BATH HER SELF, MY SIBLINGS AND MYSELF HAVE TAKEN TIME OFF WORK TO HELP HER, THIS IS GETTING HARD.AND WORKMAN COMP DONT EVEN COVER HER BILLS.

15 I want to place a lawsuit because i use to work for walmart and i got injured on the job ( i was pregnant and 17 years old) they sent me to the back to get blue bags (noone under 18 is allowed in the back) i got the bags and my back statrted hurting. i told my supervisor and the sent me to one of there docters. he gave me a motrin, ( i know its not really strong. but thats not for pregnant women in there 3rd trimester.) that medication could have killed or harmed my son. I WANT A LAWYER.......... ANY SUGGESTIONS????

16 Recently went to Walmart and was refused my purchase because I didn't have another form of ID to show them , which is illegal for them to ask for by the way. They said they voided the transaction, yet the purchase is on my credit card and Visa nd Walmart refuse to remove it. I can't afford to take them to court over $208.00 , anyone have any advice?

17 I am a former employee of walmart. I am in a situation were I am unable to get my job back at walmart. Officialy I am still employeed by walmart I am on a personal leave of absence but I am having a hard time trying to get back to work. I am getting very behind on my bills and they keep giving me the run around about they don't have any positions available at this time. Its been two and a half months now and they are still dening me a transfer. What should I do?

18 I recently slipped on water and fell at a Wal Mart store at the checkout, resulting in a hyrniated disc resting on my spine. I now have to have micro lumbar surgery. They denied my claim, saying they were not responsible. I was lied to by the manager. Security came out to check on me, and stated, "You took a Hard Fall", as evidently they saw everything on camera. Why is this so hard to prove where the water came from, if they have so many cameras everywhere? Why am I not entitled to atleast payment of my medical bills? I have never had surgery, and can't afford my bills, nor find an attorney to represent me.

19 I left my car at the wal-mart parking lot after seeing a mass of people standing in line for tires and oil changes, i never spoke to a representative about my needs or had a ticket printed out or given any of my info. After one hour of shopping for my sister's wedding dress, i come back to find my car moved and being worked on by 3 walmart employees!!!How did they crank and move my car, the manager came out and explained they moved my car by mistake but i had gotten a free oil change. I had come for tires. The key that was used was to another car with the same make and model but had broken in the ignition, now i am without a car for a few days and still stunned, what should i do, any comments are appreciated.