1 But the New York Times said Islam was all about Peace and love..... Hmmmmmmm.... Could it be that Islam is actually....Evil? Nine out of ten lopped off heads agree.

2 Sounds like I need to do one of the following: A.Take the American Flag Down in front of my house. B.Start Singing the the Praise to Islam,even though Peaceful bastards just kidnaped an Arch Bishop from my Church. C. Buy a handgun Hmmmmm...C

3 The Christian Army will gather and rid the world of this stain called Islam.

4 The Christian Army does not wage war, PCA. We turn the other cheek, walk two miles when forced to go one, and were warned that we would be persecuted unto death for following Christ. The USA, on the other hand, does wage war! May these jokers become mashed under the tracks of M1 tanks!

5 The MSM has been anti-American for 50 years. They naturally side with anyone that attacks Americans. This is just another example. But the biggest one the last few years was Arafat. He was responsible for the deaths of hundreds of American including several State Dept jr. execs. and an ambassador or two. The MSM has sung his praise ever since he started killing Americans 35 years ago.

6 Rusty.... I don't think anyone wonders why you feel the need to blog anonymously; not even all the new people. Hell, I comment here anonymously myself. When you cover subjects like this, you get hate mail, even commenters get hate mail. I should know. What's really scary about this, is, he was in chat rooms supposedly filled with people supposedly from his home country. I heard the tv say that he received a threat that told him we will track you down and kill you. How could they have tracked him down? And how did they get into his house? One person could not have killed all four, so maybe it was person(s) they knew? If the threat came from over there, how did they get people over here to move fast enough to find him and kill his entire family? Awful circumstances, horrible crime. Maybe it wasn't even related to his chat room chats. I just have that feeling there is more to this and as long as CSU doesn't screw up the scene, maybe we'll get a better explanation. I'd just hate to think that this could happen to any of us. Sometimes this is just too hard for my brain to wrap around such crimes. The people who were also in those chat rooms at the time were people that knew him and that he knew. Even if it was for the reasons stated, it had to be people he knew or why let them into his house? He's right about the MSM but there has to be more to this story, although if it is Muslim-related, they don't need much or any reason to do what they do. Either way, it's horrible and I hope they catch the scum that did this, why, so we all can feel a little safer in our homes. So many questions, not enough answers...... ~Cindy

7 If it wasn't the father's chat room stuff, it may have been this. ABC News has learned that the slain family's cousin has been a translator working for the prosecution in the trial of Lynne Stewart. She is the radical lawyer accused of smuggling messages from imprisoned Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman, to terrorist cell members and associates.

8 Hope she doesn't have more relatives here.....

9 CINDY: Believe in internment camps yet?

10 I wonder if they realize that somewhere in America some muslims will be killed in return. Rednecks are rednecks, Europe doesn't have any.

11 Grey Rooster: Why ask me if I believe in internment camps yet for Islamists? I never said I didn't when it came to them. What made you bring that up? We are on the same side soldier! Not ROB A's reponse - hopefully as they did further into this investigation, we will certainly learn more; just hope it doesn't die like so many other stories have in the past. People are finally seeing the big picture (except for Hammertime, who needs a wake up call)- what does Christ have to do with it? and it's about time; when is enough going to be enough? I do know if I was physically able, that's where I'd be. Rod, what does "Cerritos" mean> Cindy

12 Get muslims out of America now. Call for outlawing this gutter religion. It is not a religion for civilized people. Therefore, muslims should not be in a civilized land. 2 plus 2 equals 4. Get them out now.

13 Cindy Cerritos means little green hills.

14 Here's a disturbing connection, just reported by local ABC News in New Jersey, in the case of the murdered family of Coptic Christians: http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/news/wabc_011705_murderedfamily.html ABC News has learned that the slain family's cousin has been a Translator working for the prosecution in the trial of Lynne Stewart. She is The radical lawyer accused of smuggling messages from imprisoned Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman, to terrorist cell members and associates.

15 Shit! Now we're paying terrorist supporters to help prosecute American GI's.

16 Thank goodness I don't believe in turning the other cheek anymore. I believe in this, you wrong me i'll seek revenge on you. Plain and simple, you hurt a family member of mine and something bad will happen to you and i'll be there. As far as this guys family is concerned, they should kill 10 Muslims just for being Muslims and if I was on the jury i'd find them NOT FUCKING GUILTY FOR DOING SO!

17 I'm also talking his next of kin doing that. I wouldn't shed so much as a tear and if I was on the jury as stated, the verdict from me would forever be not guilty. I wouldn't care if the next of kin in question had 10 muslim heads in his/her refrigerator. Hell, the only thing I could possibly see him guilty for would be storing human body parts without a license!

18 ... pretty God-awful pathetic. I stumbled on this page while looking for the latest factual information about the brutal murder of the coptic family in New Jersey. What I find, much to my surprise is a bunch of inbred heathens muslim-bashing and calling for mass expatriation of muslims (yes, even American citizens) from America if not total genocide (which by the way would include every fricking race here, since muslims are not limited to any one in particular). Hell, if we wanted to judge a religion by it's followers, we should just flush them all down the toilet as "gutter religions". The jails and prisons are filled with much more who claim to be christian... I think all the mass murderers of modern lore, say like your John Wayne Gacy's, your Richard Specks, your Ted Bundy's... I don't believe any were, say "muslim". Boy, there's just not enough ink on the page for all the sadistic, pedophilic rapists, the honor roll of notoreity, who have raped, killed, sodomized, eaten (yes, let's not forget good ol' Jeffrey), and done whether else satan told them to do, or whatever voice they heard in their miserable pea heads. And what about those great white "christian" knights, those klanners and cross-flamers of old? Those church bombing, slack-jawed supremists who terrorised non-whites into submission? Remember those poor little black girls in the Atlanta church bombing? Should we ban, "christianity" now because of christian hate? Face it, religions don't kill.. demonic people do. Religion.. ? well, I've seen a healthy dose here of what yours has to offer. No wonder the church is the undisputed underdog. Know Christ? Then, live a Christ-like life. Others, just shut the hell up.

19 .. interment camps you say? The day is coming soon when you might find yourself in one when the plutocrats get tired of paying you. Much easier to work a slave without a wage.

20 APPALLED: What rag head buggered you and make you like it?

21 Jesus was a "raghead" ... dressed in the clothes of a "raghead", and as a cohen (jewish priest) covered his head. To this day orthodox the jewish priests are "ragheads", orthodox jewish men cover their heads in respect while reading the sater, the mother of Jesus was a "raghead", wearing the clothes of a "raghead" and covering her head... which from these groups do you think buggered me? Let's discuss buggery, you crude cretin (a french word, by the word that means "retarded christian". In the absence of being able to wage a salient argument, you seem very interested in assholes and what's going in them.

22 Don't know anything who wore what 2005 years ago and neither do you. Ah! But all bullshit aside. You know what I mean. FAGGOT. Which one bugged you? Easy. All of them. Tell the truth. Liked it didn't you. You low life creep. Mention the Gacys, Specks, Bundys. Don't mention the Canadian, Ha, British, South American, Russian, African nutso's. You low life piece of shit. Who killed more? Idi Amin, the muslim, or all the sick American killers put together. What about the Klanner's? You simple minded prick. What era do you live in? You wish to talk about white crime on black. Today, it doesn't exist. Ever heard of a white person striking a black first? You mis-informed creep. Look at every fight in Professional Basketball, Football, Baseball. Every see a white man hit a black man first? NEVER. It don't happen, And that goes for college to. Tell me about it. Want to talk about where? San Francisco's Tenderloin District. When has a white ever attacked a black? How about New Orleans. Or Los Angeles, Or Chicago, Or New York, Or Miami. Name one, Punk! There's not a day that goes by in America where the attacks on whites by blacks are not 100 % higher. Where the fuck are you talking about. Show me asshole. Show me what's happening today. Read the papers tomorrow morning. In every major American city. Count the number of attacks on blacks verus the attacks by blacks on whites. I am a racist. I am a racist because I tell the truth. Because I talk about what I have experienced. So Fuck you on the black thing. Now on the Muslim thing. People are having their heads cut off in the name of allah. The MUSLIM assholes who cut the heads off exclaim God is great. A Muslim thing. They cut people heads off in plain site. Everyone can see. No fucking one tells. They plant bombs on main streets, no one sees or tells. A suicide bomber killer is considered a hero. His family places his picture on the mantel and lights candles. Religious clerics claim him to be a martyr. Who the fuck is innocent here? You uninformed liberal dip shit creep. I piss on you. Iraqi Muslims did more rape, sodomy, killings in one week in Kuwait than all the sicko's in the last 100 years in America. I LOVE AMERICA. I LOVE WHITE PEOPLE. BECAUSE WE ARE GREAT, HELPFUL, COMPASSIONATE. We are the BIG DOG for a reason. Others can be just as great. But not at our expense. No one, no one has done as much for the world as America. Your a creep APPALLED. Just a jealous little creep. Attacking America in not the in thing to do. America does what others don't have the stomach to. You are shit, America is great. Just look at the immigration list. Grow the fuck up you jealous little shit. I piss on you.

23 .. how pathetic. This is why material for the general public is dumbed down to a 6th grade level. Hey cockadoodleDUD, you seem fixated on your elimination processes, from asshole to pee-hole. Does "pissing" on people somehow make you great. How DOGmatic. Your bell's just too easy to ring. Lay off the Jack Daniels. Have a fine fricking day.

24 But you didn't challenge my assertions, did you? Because I'm right, the facts back me up. Your stupid claims don't stand up. Just a mouth runner. Had enough of loud mouth lying cry babies like you blameing white people and America for the ills of the world. IT'S A LIE. Without white people and America the world would be shit. Just like you. Good Americans are dying while they attempt to make the world a better place for all. While other cowardly peoples take a feed ride. How does a GI in Iraq feel when he reads your bullshit? Again, piss on you.

25 Probably not greyrooster. Unfortunately, rednecks don't know the difference between Muslims, Hindus, Coptics or Sikhs. I live in Texas and am a Hindu. While I personally wasn't bothered post 9/11, a lot of Hindus and Sikhs were. In fact, at least one Sikh was killed from a dumb redneck in Arizona. The irony of the situation is Hindus and Sikhs have had to fight these bastards for thousands of years. So many people escapec their native lands due to persecution, including our first pilgrims. Whether it be religious, ethnic, political, what have you. They came to America to be free, to get away from these types of people. And here they are again? We can't even post web blogs? We live in fear, even here? I do think self defense is necessary; however, educated self defense. I certainly hope anyone thinking of defending their faith, freedom, etc. knows who the enemy really is. Unfortunately, the people who resort to physical attacks on the street or even random shootings tend to not be the brightest or most educated folks. These are exactly the same people who think Sikhs are Taliban because they wear cloth on their heads. It is up to the higher echelons of American intellect to act. A beating here, a killing there, won't put a dent in the lives of these people. They re-produce like anything. Americans often question: "Why don't Indians stop reproducing?" Well, they tried. They tried passing a law to limit the number of births. Muslims started rioting and said it was an infringement on their religion. They already make up about 18 percent of India now. The way they reproduce, they are expected to supercede Hindus in some years, much as the situation is in Texas with Hispanics. The only way to fight these people is to take advantage of what they don't have: brain power. The fundamentalists are like ghetto street thugs, ready to pounce you on a dark corner in Compton or Queens. They don't have very high intellectual capacities because they have spent all their time spewing hatred and focusing everything on Islam. What America needs, is to take advantage of this. We need people at the top of the social ladder to shape the way America is. I suggest the bankers, real estate professionals, attorneys, media people, immigration officers, police, legislators, hospitals, everyone work in their own respective fields to, how should i put it, not make it easy for certain people to build their houses of worship. City ordinances, zoning, architectural commitee members, everyone can do their part to make it as difficult- yet remain within the law- as possible for these people to create their so called houses of worship. University admissions boards, try to avoid selecting these people for admissions. Real Estate brokers, make their lives hell. INS officials: deny them entry to this country. Police: lay the laws extra nice and hard on them. We all need to work together so that they don't think of America as some peachy land for them. The longer they think that, the more want to come here. Let them do their shit in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, but, for God's sake, don't trouble the people that are just trying to live in peace. "I wonder if they realize that somewhere in America some muslims will be killed in return. Rednecks are rednecks, Europe doesn't have any. Posted by: greyrooster at January 17, 2005 07:44 PM "

26 Probably not greyrooster. Unfortunately, rednecks don't know the difference between Muslims, Hindus, Coptics or Sikhs. I live in Texas and am a Hindu. While I personally wasn't bothered post 9/11, a lot of Hindus and Sikhs were. In fact, at least one Sikh was killed from a dumb redneck in Arizona. The irony of the situation is Hindus and Sikhs have had to fight these bastards for thousands of years. So many people escapec their native lands due to persecution, including our first pilgrims. Whether it be religious, ethnic, political, what have you. They came to America to be free, to get away from these types of people. And here they are again? We can't even post web blogs? We live in fear, even here? I do think self defense is necessary; however, educated self defense. I certainly hope anyone thinking of defending their faith, freedom, etc. knows who the enemy really is. Unfortunately, the people who resort to physical attacks on the street or even random shootings tend to not be the brightest or most educated folks. These are exactly the same people who think Sikhs are Taliban because they wear cloth on their heads. It is up to the higher echelons of American intellect to act. A beating here, a killing there, won't put a dent in the lives of these people. They re-produce like anything. Americans often question: "Why don't Indians stop reproducing?" Well, they tried. They tried passing a law to limit the number of births. Muslims started rioting and said it was an infringement on their religion. They already make up about 18 percent of India now. The way they reproduce, they are expected to supercede Hindus in some years, much as the situation is in Texas with Hispanics. The only way to fight these people is to take advantage of what they don't have: brain power. The fundamentalists are like ghetto street thugs, ready to pounce you on a dark corner in Compton or Queens. They don't have very high intellectual capacities because they have spent all their time spewing hatred and focusing everything on Islam. What America needs, is to take advantage of this. We need people at the top of the social ladder to shape the way America is. I suggest the bankers, real estate professionals, attorneys, media people, immigration officers, police, legislators, hospitals, everyone work in their own respective fields to, how should i put it, not make it easy for certain people to build their houses of worship. City ordinances, zoning, architectural commitee members, everyone can do their part to make it as difficult- yet remain within the law- as possible for these people to create their so called houses of worship. University admissions boards, try to avoid selecting these people for admissions. Real Estate brokers, make their lives hell. INS officials: deny them entry to this country. Police: lay the laws extra nice and hard on them. We all need to work together so that they don't think of America as some peachy land for them. The longer they think that, the more want to come here. Let them do their shit in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, but, for God's sake, don't trouble the people that are just trying to live in peace. "I wonder if they realize that somewhere in America some muslims will be killed in return. Rednecks are rednecks, Europe doesn't have any. Posted by: greyrooster at January 17, 2005 07:44 PM "

27 Sorry for the double post. P.S.: I just wanted to mention that there are certain types of Muslims that tend to be much more easy going: Shia's Aga Khan's Its hard to tell the difference, but they exist. Many of these people are also the victim of Sunni Muslim intolerance.

28 Fuck You All, Who Don't Believe in America And those americans who want to do harm to us, better look over there back a trillion upon trillion fold! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!PLEASE HELP US WHO BELIEVE WRIGHT FROM wrong.

29 Everyone, I'm a Muslim yehh... And to be honest with you all, I'm quite surprised with how the world views Islam today... Before 9/11 happened, I thought all religions were living in peace, but I realised that I hadn't read the newspaper much, LOL... Okay, you all see on TV about how Muslims keep threatening, bombing and killing people yehh... And the word 'jihad' became quite trendy these days... I just want to EMPHASISE that there is nothing wrong with Islam (I mean the religion). It's just that some 'uneducated' Muslims think that they are doing the right thing by bombing and killing people. So, my point is that don't judge Islam (the religion) by looking at the Muslims (the people). Because, Muslims can be deviated, but the religion is always right. Believe me, even the Muslims all around the world are also confused by these so-called "Army of Jihad", etc. Hope to hear from someone...

30 Jesus was a "raghead" ... dressed in the clothes of a "raghead", and as a cohen (jewish priest) covered his head. To this day orthodox the jewish priests are "ragheads", orthodox jewish men cover their heads in respect while reading the sater, the mother of Jesus was a "raghead", wearing the clothes of a "raghead" and covering her head... which from these groups do you think buggered me? Let's discuss buggery, you crude cretin (a french word, by the word that means "retarded christian". In the absence of being able to wage a salient argument, you seem very interested in assholes and what's going in them. Posted by: appalled at January 23, 2005 10:30 AM We have nuts in every comunity and If you like to push your luck go ahead.

31 I firmly believe that all groups of people are basically the same. In any major group one can find the very very good and the very very evil with everything in between...a bell curve would serve greatly here to demonstrate what I am writing. Imagine a bell curve; squewed all the way to one side are the evil people and all the way to the other side the very very good with everything in between at the mean. Also consider a very useful theory of personality taught by Eric Burns. Burns teaches that all people operate on the principal of the three P's =: 1) Permission ; 2) Protection; 3) Potency. One cannot even get out of bed in the morning without these three parts of our personalities in some reasonable operation. If any society adopts a philosophy that allows or gives PERMISSION for one bit of evil you can be certain that there will be members of that group quite willing to carry out that permission to the fullest extent of interperation...Islam is replete with such permission to kill and perform other atrocities. Not only that; one cannot argue that the quran is all in the inteperation when the hadiths CLEARLY state that the meaning is to kill the infidel. This is what Muslims are currently doing in the Sudan; this is what Muslims did to the Assyrians, Greeks and Armeinans in Turkey; this is what Muslim invader did to the indigenous population of the Coptic/Egyptian people. Now Egypt is a good example; it is also a typical example of what the philosophy of Islam does. Today only 10% of the original people of Egypt exist. 90% of todays so called Egyptians are actually Turk/Arab mix. Consider that Egyptian/Coptic is no longer spoken in Egypt. Arabic is the official language. Why? The Egyptian people kept their ancient language, Coptic all during the Greek occupation; they kept it all during the Roman occupation...but after a mere few years of Muslim occupation suddenly Coptic is no longer the official language...The why of it has already been stated. Those who spoke Coptic were murdered and a new Arabic speaking population moved in. Islam is all about murder and genocide. You know this is true if you have ever read a quran. I am not saying that all Muslims are murderers any more than I am saying that all Nazis or Communists were or are murders; but the philosophy of all three, Islam, Nazism and Communism give permission to do murder and that is all that is necessary for a phiolosphy to be very dangerous. This is why the idiot who wrote that "...Hell, if we wanted to judge a religion by it's followers, we should just flush them all down the toilet as "gutter religions"..." REALLY IS AN IDIOT. This idiot should read a little history about Islam...He shold also read a few newspapers...Read about what Muslims are doing to non-Muslims in the Sudan; the Phillipeans, Indonesia and anyother damn nation where Muslims are in great numbers...Hey stupid..get you head out of your dumb ass and smell the coffee...Muslims in this nation...It would be as safe or perhaps safer to have a regiment of Nazis. IF ISLAM THRIVES HUMANITY DIES !! William J. Herald; Viet Nam era vet US Army 1965-1967. PS..I was stationed overseas when the Indonesians had thir little Jihad in 1966. Two childhood "friends", both boys about 15 years old greeted each other one morning. But when the other had his back turned his "friend" pulled out a bland and chopped of his "friend's head off/ Why? Because one was not practicing the kind of Islam the other thought was necessary. Was the murderer arristed? NO! He was greeted in his community as a great deferder of Islam. QURAN: Although Muslims are asked to be compassionate amongst one another, their Quran teaches them to be "harsh with unbelievers", our Christian, Jewish and Atheist neighbors and colleagues (48:29). QURAN: "strike off the heads of the disbelievers"; and after making a "wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives" (47:4).

32 Christians may go to war..BUT THERE IS NOTHING IN THE TEACHINGS OF CHRIST GIVING PERMISSION TO KILL ANYONE..JUST THE OPPOSITE; "DO GOOD TO THOSE WHO ABUSE YOU"....BUT THE QURAN TEACHES MURDER TEACHINGS OF THE QURAN: The holy Prophet (HOLY? WHAT A JOKE) prescribes fighting for Muslims and tells Muslims "it is good for us even if we dislike it" (2:216). Although we are asked to be compassionate amongst each other, we have to be "harsh with unbelievers", our Christian, Jewish and Atheist neighbors and colleagues (48:29). "strike off the heads of the disbelievers"; and after making a "wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives" (47:4). "instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers" "smite above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them" (8:12). The quran assures MUSLIMS that when they kill in his name "it is not us who slay them but Allah, in order that He might test the Believers by a gracious trial from Himself" (8:17). He orders Muslims "to strike terror into the hearts of the enemies" (8:60). He has made the Jihad mandatory and warns Muslims "Unless we go forth, (for Jihad) He will punish us with a grievous penalty, and put others in our place" (9:39). orders its followers to “fight the unbelievers until no other religion except Islam is left “(2:193). It asks the Muslims to "slay or crucify or cut the hands and feet of the unbelievers, that they be expelled from the land with disgrace and that they shall have a great punishment in world hereafter" (5:34).

33 Lot of racism here. Lot of anti-muslim sentiment. With 6 million+ muslims in America, one would think by reading the garbage listed here by u morons, that there is violence committed every day. Well lets say....ok we were not responsible for slavery, that was a christian thing....several hundred million africans enslaved.... ok we did not start world war one or two...once again a christian thing... ok-we did not ethnically cleanse north america of its original inhabitants---yeah, that too was a christian thing oh, and muslims never used atomic or nuclear weapons... and we did not start the crusades oh yeah...we didnt do the holocaust oh i almost forgot the spanish inquisition and the genocide in bosnia-that was a orthodox thing.. and we had nothing to do with the rwanda genocide and we had nothing to do with the killing fields of cambodia... and nothing to do with the catholic-protestant wars of europe--like ireland oh yeah, and muslims make up the largest portion of the worlds refugees-some from inter-muslim fighting, but mostly because of conflicts, such as yugoslavia, kosova, chechnya, kashmir, palestine..... You frigging idiots----violence is un-holy, whether it is committed by muslims, chrstians, hindus, jews, or atheists.... islam has been around for a while, and is not going away... people who kill in the name of islam are deviants, just like the deviants who committed all the above atrocities.. friggin hypocrites

34 interesting article--found at islamicity.com What if the media applies the same rules it applies to report incidents of violence in the Muslim world? What if the reporter happened to have biases against Christianity? What if he is totally ignorant of the Milwaukee religious profile and the American religious landscape? The result will not be different than what you may read in the following story. A Christian Terrorist kills seven innocent Americans including children and women. The terrorist act happened on Saturday at a church service held regularly at the Sheraton Hotel in Brookfield, Wisconsin. After killing the seven innocent people the Christian terrorist killed himself. Four died at the scene and three others died later of their injuries, police said. They ranged in age from 16 to over 60 year olds. The terrorist was described as a 45-year-old man who had been affiliated with the church, which met at the hotel every Saturday morning for several years. The group, the Church of the Living God, is an evangelical church that observes the Sabbath on Saturday, not on Sunday. It was reported that the gunman had differences with the Church Leaders on various religious affairs including the Christian Sabbath day. Experts believe that his act was inspired by several biblical verses that promote violence in the Old Testament. However, no one has demanded a serious study on the issue of Biblical roots of Violence. Experts also believe that the inspiration for the terrorist act came from the belief that the killing would be forgiven as Jesus has already died for the sins of all the Christians. Several Experts on Christianity tend to believe that the rising violence in the US can be attributed to this belief. In a survey done by some experts it was revealed that most Christians believe that their sins have already been forgiven as the Son of God has died for their sin. "The rising violence and the indulgence of Christians in the killing, looting and cheating acts all over the world can be attributed to this belief", said an expert. "When people believe that they are not accountable to any higher authority as they have already been forgiven, they tend to commit excesses regardless of the harm they inflict upon people", explained the expert. "If the world wants to see a decrease in violence in countries with Christian majority, they have to look at the Christian theology of sin and crucifixion", added the expert. Seemingly, the incidents of violence are on the rise in the USA, after the re-election of Mr. Bush who is said to be a staunch evangelical born-again Christian. Experts feel that his re-election has emboldened several rightwing Christians. Several religious communities are questioning the silence of Christian leaders and scholars in discussing the theology of the forgiveness of sin. Muslim scholars, however, have warned against generalization. They said that the action of a few Christians cannot be used to condemn Christianity or blame all Christians for violence. They cautioned against viewing all churches as potential cells where violent and terrorist Christians hide. They argue that such a description of Christians or their churches will be a violation of the principles of Islam that promote respect for people of all faith. The Milwaukee terror act has created a climate of fear in religious circles all over the country. People fear that potential Christian killers and terrorists might be present in every religious gatherings, waiting for the right moment to strike against innocent Americans. Several Christian leaders, however, suggest that such acts are inspired by Satan, and they have no place in the official teachings of Christianity. Some of them blame the presence of other religions in America as a source of corruption of their faith. Others argue that by accepting Jesus as Son of God and God (Muslims and Jews don't believe in the concept of trinity) all people will be saved from hellfire. However, many Christians reject this theology arguing that people will be judged according to their actions, a position held by Muslims all over the world. Note: The above is only an example of what a biased media report of Christianity may contain.

35 Appalled you are a malicious liar and you are WRONG!!,,Greyrooster is RIGHT. ISLAM is a nasty cult and should not be allowed to migrate to western nations,,all I see in the news is muzlims killing muzlims and terrorizing the world, ISLAM can go to HELL when it belongs

36 How come no one mentioned that the killers were found, and that they were NOT jihadi Muslims as many people have claimed them to be in this forum. why wasn't anyone jumping at posting the latest info about the case? i thought you were all curious about what happened. It seems to me that people just had fun blaming Muslims. I guess its easier to do the wrong thing, and harder to do the right thing. many accused innocent ppl out of their hatred, while once the guilty were proven innocent, many were too arrogant to admit they were wrong. If I were you guys, I would really think twice about who is blinded by hate. Dare I mention that these killers were Christians? Yup truth hurts.