November 29, 2005

Wrong war, wrong place, wrong time

A revalation came to me this morning in the form of an email from Amawalk John. I have finally figured out what the Democrats mean by "wrong war, wrong place, wrong time." But before we get to that, let's play a game. I'm going to give you a list of quotes and you see if you can tell me who they belong to. The answers will be in the additional section of this article.


  1. He will rebuild his arsenel of weapons of mass destruction. Some day, somewhere, I am certain, he will use that arsenel again as he has ten times since 1983.

  2. Saddam Hussein certainly has chemical and biological weapons. There's no question about that.

  3. There's unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons. And will likely have nuclear weapons in the next five years. We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress that Saddam has been able to make in the development of weapons of mass destruction.

  4. He continues to attempt to gain access to additional capability including nuclear capability. There is a real debate on how far off that is. Whether it is a matter of years or whether it is a matter of less than that.

  5. Good Evening. Earliear today I ordered America's armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. Their mission is to attack Iraq's nuclear, biological and chemical weapons programs. Saddam Hussein must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons.

  6. Other countries posess weapons of mass destruction and ballistic missiles. With Saddam, there's one big difference. He has used them. Not once, but repeatedly. And I have no doubt today that left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will use these terrible weapons again.

  7. Inspectors are saying that even if they could stay in Iraq their work would be a sham. Saddam's deception has defeated their effectiveness. Instead of the inspectors disarming Saddam, Saddam has disarmed the inspectors.

  8. The hard fact is that as long as Saddam is in power, he threatens the well-being of his people, the peace of the region, the security of the world. The best way to end that threat, once and for all, is with a new Iraqi government. A government willing to live in peace with its neighbors. A government that respects the lives of its people.

  9. The decision to use force is never cost free. Whenever American forces are placed in harm's way, we risk the loss of life. And while our strikes are focused on Iraq's military capabilities, there will be unintended Iraqi casualties.

  10. Heavy as they are, the costs of action must be weighed against the price of inaction.

  11. Saddam will strike again at his neighbors. He will make war on his own people. Mark my words. He will develop weapons of mass destruction. He will deploy them. And he will use them.

1. Sandy Berger
2. Nancy Pelosi
3. Jay Rockafeller
4. Joe Biden
5 - 11. Bill Clinton

So why are these quotes important to the "wrong war" statement? Well, all of these statements were said during the Clinton administration. They are the Democratic leaders coming out in favor of military action against Iraq and against Saddam's weapons of mass destruction while Clinton was President. So don't EVER again let a democratic senator or congressman lie to you and tell you that George Bush lied to him. They had the idea that Saddam had wmd's long before Bush ever got into office. That's a little fact that they'd seem to like you to forget.

So when a Democrat says "wrong war, wrong place, wrong time" what they're really saying is "we didn't get a chance to wage this exact same war and now we're mad." Anything else is just a lie.

All of the quotes above come from this clip sent to me by Amawalk John. Listen to it for yourself. Then decide who's REALLY against the war.

Posted by: Drew at 08:16 AM | Comments (5) | Add Comment
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1 Drew, you must have missed this memo. Memo:All Democrats and neo-liberals Subject:Two sets of rules There is one set of rules that apply to all actions of Democrats and their allies. This set, the one that allows us to say and do anything we want to, including lie, steal, use dirty tricks, intimidate, vandalize, and whatever else we can think of applies to us. The other set of rules, that is, the common and legislative laws, etc. apply to everyone else. Signed: DNC, Democratic Party and all allies

Posted by: jesusland joe at November 29, 2005 10:31 AM (rUyw4)

2 Joe I think I saw the almost the same memo posted on a left wing site: except for replacing Democratic with Republican. Are you cross posting ? At this point in the history of these United States using the declared allegiance of any politician to the stated beliefs of any party as any indication of honor or ideology is about as useful as a compass is in learning to ride a bike. At least 3 of the 5 on that list have called for sending MORE troops to finish the job. http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/6/30/94916.shtm lhttp://www.democraticleader.house.gov/press/articles.cfm?pressReleaseID=590 Republican pols are watching the polls they know that the American people are not happy with the way things are going over there. So is my point the Democrats are the better party ? Nooooo. Pork, Patriotism, Prayer, Polls, Profits, these are all tools to be used by both parties. Neither party really knows what to do about Iraq: it has turned into a clusterf**k The strength of the insurgency does not seem to have diminished: what is the chance that a "well trained" Iraqi army will do a better job then the best trained and equipped fighting force on the planet? Army brass are saying only what will help their careers: battalion commanders say they need more troops.http://www.time.com/time/press_releases/article/0,8599,1132792,00.html At some point the name calling should stop and someone, of either party, should say "ummmm the emperor isn't wearing any clothes".

Posted by: john ryan at November 29, 2005 12:43 PM (ads7K)

3 hmm... So if 'we' had bothered to wage war in the same place, at the right time, then it would have been the right war? In a wierd sort of way, I am beginning to understand them. --fret

Posted by: fretless at November 29, 2005 01:41 PM (twzGk)

4 John Ryan, are you Greg?

Posted by: jesusland joe at November 29, 2005 03:52 PM (rUyw4)

5 Way to tell em Drew I think all those old Dems lied on deliberately to troll Bush into war on false pretense. Billary Lied People Died right on. so now am I thininkign right I mean me blaming bill for all this should help us win. No the sad part is Lieberman was right today as Glen Reynolds pointed out. The Dems were right not 100% like anyone else but the general idea that Saddam contributed to a favorable environment for terrorism and defied the UN and screwing around with him for 12 more years was unnacceptable. But they left it to us to fight the bastard. After Afghanistan the bastards ran to Iraq and Syria and Pakistan. Iraq was the least cooperative. So now all the left has to do is point fingers. Never mind they and the MSM should be helping to win. Country before party it should be right.

Posted by: Howie at November 29, 2005 08:42 PM (D3+20)

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