1 I LIKE IT!! Great idea for a bumper sticker too.

2 I'm sitting this one out. Actions speak a lot louder than words - and words lend themselves to semantic redefinitions quite easily. I want to see what the Danes and other Euros will do over the next several months before I cuddle up next to them and make a fool of myself.

3 hondo, you made much the same comment on my post about this. I don't see myself aligning so much with the Danes as with our own Constitution. Standing for freedom of speech and freedom of the press isn't really subject to the whims of fashion and international politics. It just happens to be the Danes on the receiving end right now.

4 Agreed - but the islamists can be placated, even if only temporarily. The Danes and Euros know this - and they know what it takes. Even if it is just a war of words, the Danes know they can offer up US and Israel to sooth them. Principals of free speech and press are US inventions - the Euro versions came later and they are - versions, variations on the theme. There are differences.

5 I'm with hondon on this one. I'll stand up for the Danes when they begin standing up for themselves. Until then they're just dhimmis.

6 FLEMMING ROSE THE AUTHOR OF THE PROPHET CARTOONS IS A ZIONIST JEW Flemming Rose born 3/14/1956 into a Jewish family in the Ukraine Flemming Rose, a Jewish extremist supporter of Israel and close friend of Neocon Jewish extremist Daniel Pipes. Either we in the West believe in Freedom of Speech or we don't. If we really have free speech then why is world-renowned historian David Irving sitting in a prison in Vienna right now facing up to 20 years imprisonment for having a dissenting opinion on some details of the Holocaust? Why was Germar Rudolf, a Chemist Doctoral Candidate, kept from receiving his degree and now sits in a dank prison meant for terrorists with a five year sentence for simply scientifically challenging some forensics of the Holocaust? Why has a pacifist Canadian, Ernst Zundel been in prison for 3 years and now faces trial in Mannheim, Germany for expressing his conscience on an historical period now over 50 years old! It should be obvious to all the fair-minded people that the pro-Israel, pro Clash of Civilizations, pro World War III cartel of media brazenly supports freedom only when it supports their own nefarious agenda, they cannot afford criticism or dissent. Flemming Rose born 3/14/1956 into a Jewish family in the Ukraine Flemming Rose, a Jewish extremist supporter of Israel and close friend of Neocon Jewish extremist Daniel Pipes. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Flemming_Rose&oldid=39058031

7 So, let's look at the guy who started this whole cartoon escapade. He's Flemming Rose, the cultural editor of the Danish newspaper. In all of the Lexis-Nexis database of stories from the American media on the Mohammed cartoons, there is absolutely no mention of the fact that Rose is a close confederate of arch-Islamophobe Daniel Pipes. Indeed, there is almost no context at all about Rose's newspaper. On a brief mention in the Washington Post gave a hint at a fact desperately needed to understand the situation. The Post described the affair as “a calculated insult … by a right-wing newspaper in a country where bigotry toward the minority Muslim population is a major, if frequently unacknowledged, problem.” How bad is Pipes? He wants the utter military obliteration of the Palestinians; indeed, from the Muslim world, his racism is about as blatant as that of the Holocaust denying Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Pipes’ frequent outbursts of racism -- designed to toss gasoline on the neo-cons’ lust for a wholesale conflict of cultures -- earned him a Bush nomination to the U.S. Institute of Peace, a congressionally funded think tank. Rose came to America to commune with Pipes in 2004, and it was after that meeting the cartoon gambit materialized. It's also worth noting that Danish Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen wrapped himself in protestations about freedom of speech, and that's commendable. But he is one of Bush's few fans in Europe, steeped in the we-versus-them rhetoric, and having sent troops to the Iraqi Crusade. Is Rose an equal opportunity offender? No way. As the British press reported last week, his newspaper refused in 2003 to run cartoons that ridiculed Jesus. And, of course, free expression in Europe is very relative. Many of the democracies have laws banning certain speech.

8 But Rose acknowledges that even his liberalism has its limits. He said he would not publish a cartoon of Israel's Ariel Sharon strangling a Palestinian baby, since that could be construed as "racist." Now why would Rose refuse to publish a cartoon depicting Ariel Sharon, a known war-criminal and genocidaire, strangling a Palestinian baby? Why would such a cartoon, correct and accurate in its depiction, be considered "racist" by Flemming Rose? Sharon has certainly been responsible for the murder of thousands of Palestinians during his time on this planet. He is a well-known war criminal. So, why would an Israeli war criminal be protected by Mr. Rose? Are we likely to see cartoons in Jyllands-Posten calling into question the force-fed Zionist myth of the Holocaust, which has become the new "Holy Cause" of Europe? Why should the criminal history of a Zionist leader or outstanding questions about the the Second World War be more protected than the worshipped prophet of one of the world's major religions?

9 Jail for British Holocaust denier but nothing against flemming rose the zionist racist jew who offend muslims with his prophet cartoons Monday 20 February 2006, 22:54 Irving termed the trial ridiculous A British historian has been convicted in Austria of denying the Holocaust - a crime in this country once run by the Nazis - and sentenced to three years in prison. Elmar Kresbach, the lawyer, said: "I consider the verdict a little too stringent. I would say it's a bit of a message trial." Irving appeared shocked as the sentence was read out. Moments later, an elderly man who identified himself only as a family friend called out: "Stay strong, David - stay strong," before he was escorted from the courtroom. Irving, 67, has been in custody since his arrest in November on charges stemming from two speeches he gave in Austria in 1989 in which he was accused of denying the Nazis' extermination of six million Jews. Earlier on Monday, he told journalists he considered it "ridiculous" that he was standing trial for remarks made 17 years ago. Irving's trial was held amidst new - and fierce - debate over freedom of expression in Europe, where the printing and reprinting of unflattering cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad has triggered violent protests worldwide.

10 The Danish constitution says: “The law prohibits publicly disseminated statements, which threaten, insult, or degrade persons based on their religion.” And this law was used by the Danish government to condemn “anti-Semitic” activities and investigate them, as mentioned in the human rights report made by the US Department of State regarding Denmark in 2004: “From January through June, there were five incidents of anti-Semitic vandalism, primarily graffiti, and one incident of an anti-Semitic mailing, which the government condemned and investigated.” Why a different stand when it comes to Islam? Of course there is nothing new in this. In April last year the queen of Denmark was quoted by the Telegraph newspaper as saying that we (Denmark) “should show our opposition to Islam”. The problem is not confined to Demark; some newspapers in some European countries used the same cartoons to say that they support the Danish newspaper's “freedom of speech”. These countries that boast about freedom of speech and freedom of press are the same countries that make it illegal and punishable by prison for anyone to question the holocaust . In France a university professor was sacked because he made a research questioning the magnitude of the Holocaust. In Germany one risks going to jail if one denies the Holocaust . In fact the Italian interior minister confirmed on Thursday that legal action is being taken against 11 football fans for brandishing Nazi symbols during a Serie A game. The 11 face prison sentences of between three months and one year. There are many examples to show that freedom of press in Europe stops when it comes to some historical facts that two can differ upon, but when it is about insulting Islam then it is freedom of speech. No freedom is absolute; a person's freedom ends when it encroaches into another person's freedom.

11 The mainstream media coverage of the anti-Islamic cartoons ignores the fact that the publication of the images was a "calculated offense" commissioned by a Jewish "Danish" colleague of the Jewish neocon ideologue Daniel Pipes and was meant to incite violence and promote the Jewish "clash of civilizations" between Muslims and Christians. After Danish embassies in three Muslim nations were attacked and set alight by angry Muslims protesting the anti-Islamic cartoons published in a Danish newspaper, the mainstream Jewish media turned its attention (from the 58-year Jewish occupation of Palestine and the Zionist occupation of Iraq) to the "controversial" images and the violent reactions they provoked. Invariably, however, the Jewish-controlled press overlooked the important fact that the offensive images were commissioned and published by a Jewish "Danish" colleague of the Jewish neoconservative extremist Daniel Pipes. The anti-Muslim cartoon scandal has turned out to be a major step forward for the Zionist neocons and their long-planned for Israel "clash of civilizations", the artificially constructed conflict designed to pit the so-called Christian West against the Islamic world. "The rioting that has erupted across the Middle EastÂ… is a predictable if overwrought reaction to what now seems like a calculated offense against Islam," the Miami Herald wrote in its lead editorial on Feb. 7, 2006. "It is not necessary to reprint the offending cartoons for U.S. readers to understand the issue," the Knight-Ridder paper said. "A religious taboo was violated, and those involved knew full well what they were doing. The incident fell all too neatly into the hands of those who would exacerbate tensions between Europe and the Muslim world." The Zionist Flemming Rose, the cultural editor of Jyllands-Posten (JP), is the person who commissioned and published the offensive cartoons knowing that the images would exacerbate tensions between Europe and the Islamic nations. Rose is a colleague of the Jewish neocon Pipes who visited the Philadelphia office of Pipes' Zionist web site, called Middle East Forum, in 2004. Rose then penned a sympathetic article about Pipes entitled "The Threat from Islamism", which promoted his extreme anti-Islamic views without mentioning the fact that Pipes is a rabid Zionist Jewish extremist. Pipes, the son of the Polish-born Jewish Zionist neocon professor Richard E. Pipes, is a Zionist of the most extreme sort, who says that the Palestinian people need to have a "change of heart" that should be brought about after being utterly defeated by the Israeli military. "How is a change of heart achieved? It is achieved by an Israeli victory and a Palestinian defeat," Pipes said in 2003. "The Palestinians need to be defeated even more than Israel needs to defeat them." After three Danish embassies were attacked by angry Muslims, CNN turned to Pipes, its carefully chosen Middle East analyst, to explain the cause of the widespread anger in the Muslim world. Rather than discuss the origin of the anti-Muslim images, which had provoked the protests, Pipes blamed radical clerics for having circulated the offensive images! CNN failed to mention that Pipes and Rose are Zionist Jewish neocon colleagues while Pipes blamed Muslims for the violent protests, saying that "extremists" had used the offensive cartoons published by Rose "to rally their people and become more agitatedly anti-Western." While there have been massive protests throughout the Muslim world against Denmark for the offense against Islam, U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, with Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni by her side, blamed Syria and Iran for the violent protests in Damascus and Tehran. "Iran and Syria have gone out of their way to inflame sentiments and to use this to their own purposes," Rice said. "And the world ought to call them on it." In an article entitled "Cartoons and Islamic Imperialism", written as the Danish embassies smoldered, Jewish Pipes framed the "key issue at stake in the battle over the 12 "Danish" cartoons. "Will the West stand up for its customs and mores, including freedom of speech, or will Muslims impose their way of life on the West? Ultimately, there is no compromise," Pipes wrote! "Westerners will either retain their civilization, including the right to insult and blaspheme, or not." Repeated questions to Rose, Pipes, and the editors of JP about whether Europeans should also have the right to "insult and blaspheme" the Zionist Jewish version of the "Holocaust" went unanswered. During the last decade, there have been several thousand people fined and hundreds put in European prisons for having written or spoken about the "Holocaust" or Jewish related affairs in a manner deemed illegal. Framing the cartoon scandal in this way and forcing a false choice between defending the "free press" or the Muslim protesters, Pipes reveals his hidden hand behind the publication of the cartoons, which now appears to be a well-laid trap into which a number of newspapers and populist parties have fallen. There is also a clear connection between the publication of the anti-Muslim cartoons and the secretive Jewish power. Anders Fogh Rasmussen, the "Danish" prime minister and frequent Jewish power attendee, for example, has refused to issue a formal apology, which would cost Denmark nothing but could save the nation from further losses to its exporting business and national prestige. Denmark has lost significant market share in Muslim nations due to a consumer boycott of Danish products. The damage caused to Denmark's image, prestige and economy is likely to be severe and long-lasting. Danish lives are also clearly endangered. Rasmussen's refusal to apologize, however, suggests that the "calculated offense", which has led to increased tension between Europeans and the Muslim world, was intentional. One would think that the Jew Rose, as the person directly responsible for the "calculated offense" to millions of Muslims, would be charged under Europe's anti-racism laws, not to speak of the severe damage his offensive cartoons caused to Denmark and the Danish people. Merete Eldrup, the managing director of IP/Politikens Hus, the parent company that owns Jyllands-Posten, is married to Anders Eldrup of Denmark, a Jewish group attendee for the last five years. Eldrup is chairman of Danish Oil and Natural Gas.

12 The banner, above, has the most attractive background I've seen so far in the "Support Denmark" campaign. I like bumper stickers. They may not develop points of view very well, but they can be great at expressing them. Kind of like cartoons ... Here's one I'd like to see: Join the Muslim Diaspora! Move to Sunny Scandinavia! Rape Western Women!

13 The problem with believing in free speech and toleration is that it means you have to give free speech and tolerance to fascist scum like Hansrussen. But that doesn't mean you have to let him have space on your website!