1 "In other words, not only will the state AND the Feds have access to our private information, but now our friends across the pond will too." Globalization thanks to the New World Order.

2 Please someone check for skis in hell. I agree with you, greg.

3 Lobossuese, What are you doing to fight the New World Order? Are you at all suspicious that 9-11 was engineered by the NWO? The PNAC had called for a, "catalyzing event - like a new Pearl Harbor", in order to support their plans for globalization. Did they orchestrate 9-11?

4 No greg, they did not. Go back to smoking bongs and daydreaming about having a life of your own.

5 Eh, scratch that. No, I'm not suspicious.

6 Dammit greg, it was the Men in Black with their Black Helicopters and Mind Control Rays, all owned and operated by the Joooooos of course, who manipulated the peaceful Arab goat herders into committing terrorist acts. Jesus man, you better add another layer of tinfoil, they're starting to get to you.

7 greg, PNAC didn't "call for" a catalyzing event. They said such an event would be necessary if such and such. That's not "calling for" it. Wise observers predicted a similar event would be necessary if the U.S. was to be drawn into WW2. People make predictions about all sorts of stuff, and every once in a while they turn out right.

8 "Wise observers predicted a similar event would be necessary if the U.S. was to be drawn into WW2."-Carlos Yes, and now we know that Roosevelt had foreknowledge of Pearl Harbor and allowed it to happen to shut the pacifists up and get us into WWII. Same old tune!

9 More inventions by Greg.

10 Please! If you think you're not trackable now, you're nuts. Your passport has that lovely strip inside already. Everything you look at on the internet can be tracked. Your credit purchases. Your ATM card purchases. Your credit history. Your public records. We no longer have private lives, so why worry about it? Nobody cares what you did with the hooker anyway.

11 Labosseuse, What is you position on this issue(the original post)?

12 ...is your...

13 What are the 27 countries that are supposed to get that stupid tracking device on their passports? Because if Finland is one, I gotta go cancel my passport. (what's the point of these things when cell phones make it possible to listen to every single person who have ones with 'em? Yes, even when they are not calling people. All they need is that the phone is on.)

14 Imagine US going into WW2 right away without a good reason. The Italians, the Finns and the Germans would've revolted, left US to defend their motherland and taken all the money and valuables they could gather with them to help their newly beloved country of origin. (well, the loyal Finns had already come back to fight for Finland in the Winter War, 1939, so they would've just picked up their families and the rest of their stuff and never come back) Making Pearl Harbor look as bad as possible was in the best interest of the country hungry for war after the annoyingly peaceful time of "trivial conflicts" (some underdeveloped countries and soviets fighting for independence, who wants to mess with that?) between WW:s. Since I'm not entirely sure, I need to ask one thing about PH: Was it true it was only a lesser base next to the real big one where all the good ships were kept, and Japs made a mistake about the target?

15 Scott, Yup. I don't understand why a national ID card is such a big deal with the conspiracy set if they can already track you wherever you are.

16 Carlos, They can't already track wherever we go. Please don't be a defeatist. You give up too easily. Don't sell the farm just yet!

17 dude, they totally can.

18 Google says those be full of young sexy gurls... but I thinks they might be sum virus-shittin's

19 Haven't checked yet, and I won't. Either sum pedof.shit or viruses.

20 This string is already polluted so here is some more. AN ILLEGAL GOVERNMENT by M. Rivero at www.whatreallyhappened.com A recent poll discovered that half of Americans know that the government intentionally lied about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction. The actual figure is probably a lot higher since there is a large percentage of Americans still willing to let their neighbors' children die than ever admit they were wrong to support the war in the first place. So, the majority of Americans know the government lied to create a war. A majority of Americans now know there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and that claims to the contrary were intentional lies. A majority of Americans now know the US Government lied when it claimed Iraq's WMDs were a threat to the United States. A majority of Americans now know the mainstream media lied when it claimed Iraq's WMDs were a threat to the United States. A majority of Americans now know that the US Government has been torturing innocent Iraqis for information on WMDs the US Government already knew they could not possibly have. A majority of Americans now know their government can and does engage in the most monstrous lies possible, and that hundred of thousands of people have been killed, crippled, and tortured for that lie. How much of a majority is irrelevant. A majority is a majority is a majority. Setting aside their access to inside information, the US Congress statistically should follow the public. A majority of them also know the war was started with a lie. It is perhaps understandable that the Congress has done nothing about these lies. They are, after all, complicit. One should not expect a gaggle of liars to impeach the liar in chief. Nor will the mainstream media be overly critical of those lies which they put into a hundred million homes. But what I do not understand is how Americans, who pride themselves on their love of truth and justice, can continue to tolerate a government that they now know lied to start a war of conquest. What I do not understand is how Americans, who pride themselves on their love of truth and justice, can continue to tolerate a government that shows every indication of preparing to lie again about weapons of mass destruction to justify a war of conquest in Iran. Do any of you still delude yourselves into thinking that a government that lied to send your children off to die in wars is working for your benefit; is in any way shape or form thinking of your welfare versus their own? Do you still think that this is YOUR government? Is it not more accurate to say that you are the government's property, your children mere livestock to be harvested when old enough, handed a rifle, and sent off to die when useful? The Constitution does not explicitly authorize the government to lie to the people, and the tenth amendment forbids the government to arrogate that right to itself. Therefore, when the government lies, it acts illegally and unconstitutionally. When the government lies, it ceases by that very lie to be the lawful government of this land. When the government lies, it delegitimizes itself. When a government lies, it lies for its own benefit, not yours. When a government lies, it breaks faith with the people who empowered that government to provide for the common good, not for the privilege of a few. When a government lies, it loses the moral right to rule. Our nation is founded on the principle of rule with the consent of the governed. Nobody I know has consented to be lied to by the government. Nobody CAN consent to be lied to, because they cannot know what they consent to, and no court of law would enforce such an agreement. Therefore, when the government lies to the people, it operates without the consent of the governed. Again, this delegitimizes that government. If you accept that the US Government intentionally lied about weapons of mass destruction to take this nation to war in Iraq, then you must accept that the US Government, by the commission of that act, is no longer a legal government of the people, but an illegal occupation serving private interests. The majority of Americans now know that the US Government is criminal. They know that the US Government has lied to start wars of conquest, and that it has knowingly tortured innocent people because the lie required it. The majority of Americans now know that the US Government, unless stopped, will continue to do more of the same. There is no law that compels Americans to believe the government when it lies. No legislation exists that obliges Americans to pay for a war started with lies. There is no moral principle under which Americans are required to obey a government that lies. Indeed, morality and prudence demands that a government that lies be openly defied. The Germans ended WW2 in shock at what their government had really been doing. Americans cannot claim that innocence. We DO know. The information has been available for a long time, and if this new poll is accurate, the majority of Americans know what their government is doing, and the rest of the world knows that Americans know. Get that? The whole world is watching to see what Americans will do now that most Americans know the government deliberately lied to start a war. So, what will Americans do? Will they walk their talk, and fire the liars? Will they stand up like free human beings and refuse the dictates of an illegal government, or will they cower and send their children off to die, watching them walk up the chutes to the slaughterhouse without complaint, shrugging their shoulders that this is how life is supposed to be and there is no point in making a fuss about it? Will Americans go on paying more money for government than they do for anything else, yet refusing to hold that government to the same standards of truth-in-selling that they demand from a used-car salesman? Will they go on making do with less so that the government and its friends can have that much more? Will they continue to bow down saying, "Take our money, take our neighbors' children, and tell us what to think, oh lord! We know you really are just and moral because you threw Martha and Chong in jail!" Or will Americans decide enough is enough? Will they decide that they cannot support a government that is criminal without being criminals themselves? Will they finally realize that they cannot claim to be a moral people if they do not have moral government? No magazine puff-piece, no comic book, no movie can make America look great if, when the time calls for it, Americans fail to be a great people. Great people are willing to stand up to a government gone wrong, to force their government to be truthful and honest and moral. Great people know that freedom is impossible under a government that lies because lies are tools of enslavement, and that chains built of false beliefs hold slaves tighter than chains made of steel. Slaves will cower before a government they know lies to them, bless the face that lies to them, and ask for more. And now the world watches to see if Americans are a great people, or just slaves living under the delusion they are a free people. Free men or slaves. Time to choose. The whole world is watching.   We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, -- The Declaration of Independence