The benefits to the Fallujah offensive begin already. If the residents of Fallujah are so keenly aware of the inner workings of Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi' Al Qaeda in Iraq network, then why aren't we simply levelling the whole city? Winning the hearts and minds of a people begins with their own self aknowledgment that they have lost. It took a nuclear bomb to force the Japanese to admit to themselves that their resistance was futile, I'd say a few MOABs or maybe one of the new MOPs would do the job.
, and others.
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YEAH BABY!!!!!! Think Zaqawi will shit his pants now? We must be getting closer if we're getting his cohorts.
I say we level the city myself. Most of the civilians are long gone anyway.
Posted by: Laura at November 09, 2004 02:18 PM (ptOpl)
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From http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3994605.stm
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No way out
Most of Falluja's 250,000 civilians fled the city before the offensive began.
But 30,000 to 50,000 are estimated to remain there, and their escape routes are closed.
FALLUJA ASSAULT FACTS
Up to 15,000 US and Iraqi troops involved
Estimated 3,000 Iraqi insurgent and foreign fighters in city
Estimated 30,000 civilians remain out of usual population of more than 250,000
Residents say water and electricity have been cut off.
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Yes Laura, lets level the city. Kill 40,000 innocents in order to make sure you kill 3000 insurgents and send a message. Very smart. And yes, they are ALL helping the insurgents. You guys are sick bastards. I have already wasted enough time on the November 4th comments section...I am tired of your ignorance.
Posted by: Fake like Rusty's at November 09, 2004 02:46 PM (BCl3q)
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Then get the fuck off the blog and find one where you bleeding heart libs can agree on the "illegal invasion".
Why do you care what happens to a country that harbors these insurgents? Why are you so quick to defend them?
Don't you love your country? Don't you enjoy the freedoms that you have here? Soldiers have paid for their lives for you to languish in the freedoms you have now!
So, we should sit back, enjoy the show, until it's curtains for us and anyone else who doesn't follow "Allah"??
Take the blinders off bud.
Posted by: Laura at November 09, 2004 02:59 PM (ptOpl)
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Laura, you make it too easy.
How about this: How about you go ask the country of Iraq if they would like to harbor insurgents or not. I think the results would be in the majority of NO. And no, not the majority that supposedly elected our president. More like the 80-20 variety.
Again, I do not back insurgents, I back the innocent civilians. Why is it so hard for you to understand that.
Posted by: Fake like Rusty's at November 09, 2004 03:13 PM (BCl3q)
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Fake,
There's only room enough for one fake around here--ME!! No soup for you. You're banned, until you leave an e-mail address that I can reach you at.
Posted by: Rusty at November 09, 2004 03:21 PM (JQjhA)
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FAKE: Yesterday you said the citizenry of Fallujah could not escape the city. Today you're admitting 90% has left. Put your foot in your mouth didn't you.
By the way. Everything you said in your above post was said on the news this morning. VERBATIM. You are a Fake. We can and do read the same articles. If you haven't anything new to add. Quit faking it. You ignorant Fake.
Posted by: greyrooster at November 09, 2004 03:21 PM (2R1MG)
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Another thing you ignorant FAKE. The people can get out. The insurgents and foreign terrorists cannot. Women and children can pass thru. People that cannot be vouched for and are under suspicion will be detained under guard until their status is figured out. Anyone can surrender. And they know it. You are either a damn liar or just stupid. You are worse than the terrorists. While our troops are doing the descent thing you are lying for the enemy. 90 % left. There is no reason for the remaining to be there. As the American and free Iraqi troops methodically sort thru the city they are trying to save lives. But they should not sacrifice themselves for the comforters of the enemy or those just to stubborn to listen to the repeated warnings that we were coming. You are shit. Shit that can type. But shit none the less.
Posted by: greyrooster at November 09, 2004 03:38 PM (2R1MG)
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So sorry for the aid that got killed. Like shit. May many more follow.
Posted by: greyrooster at November 09, 2004 03:40 PM (2R1MG)
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One down, a Billion to go . . .
Any city that supports people who shoot at our Marines or Soldiers should be made into a parking lot! And the fucking citizens killed . . they sure as hell couldn't be considered "Innocent"!
Posted by: large at November 09, 2004 05:06 PM (VRK2g)
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Now you're talkin', large. I can't believe these stupid bleeding heart lib's who would sooner pick up a gun and aim it at US than the "innocent" people of Iraq.
Don't they realize that these Islamic fuckers train these "innocents" at a very early age to hate us and teach them how to use weapons, etc.?
There is NOTHING to keep any really innocent civilians there, they had the freedom to leave when the going got rough. I feel sorry for no one.
By the way, they attacked us (Iraq) in '91 when we were supposedly under a ceasefire agreement.
How soooon they forget! What IS it with people who continue to stick up for a country that hates us?
Posted by: Laura at November 09, 2004 05:27 PM (ptOpl)
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Laura
Come on now.
Surely no good can ever come from our guys making an all out no holds barred attack on Fallujah!From possibly grabbing hold of this anti christ Zarqarwi,tying him with his hands behind his back
and binding his feet,reading him his bill of rights then saying,'yeah like shit',and then cutting his head off,scooping our his brains,frying them up then ordering his cohorts to eat up hale and hearty and give us all the information you have or the same thing awaits you.
Could it?NO I guess what we realy need is to be civilised about this whole thing lest we become like those we are trying to bring our sorts of values on common decency and morality.Yeah right.
Posted by: sopotamia at November 10, 2004 07:44 AM (ktE8a)
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"One down, a Billion to go . . . Any city that supports people who shoot at our Marines or Soldiers should be made into a parking lot! And the fucking citizens killed . . they sure as hell couldn't be considered 'Innocent'! "
Yeah, uh, just one thing.
We invaded them, remember! Any city that supports people who shoot at our Marines... This ain't Toledo, Ohio or something...
You guys really ARE trying to create terrorists. Or do you just believe that if we kill all Arabs and/or all Muslims, the terrorism problem will disappear? So, one down, a billion to go. There are about a billion Muslims in the world, so I guess we're talking about the world's largest genocide. Man, Hitler would be SOOOO proud of you guys. I'm sure wherever he is, he's smiling down on all of you.
And I thought the eugenists were bad.
"YEAH BABY!!!!!! Think Zaqawi will shit his pants now? We must be getting closer if we're getting his cohorts."
You do realize Zarqawi used to be based in the Kurdish region of Iraq, the region that was FRIENDLY to the US, and we could have gone after him before the war -- probably more easily. We chose not to because we didn't want to undermine a (so-called) major rationale for going to war.
He wasn't even focused on America before the war.
Let me say this, though. I will assume, given all the bloodlust in these comments, that anyone here who is of military age has signed up for the military; that anyone past military age once served; and that anyone not yet of military age plans to. If you're this bloodthirsty, this is reasonable to assume, is it not?
"So, we should sit back, enjoy the show, until it's curtains for us and anyone else who doesn't follow 'Allah'??"
Laura, come back to reality, girl. We aren't near "curtains," and no one is about to convert our society to an Islamist state. Just calm down, relax, drink some herbal tea or something. Think this through rationally. Good, OK. Everything's going to be alright.
Damn.
"I feel sorry for no one."
Then I feel sorry for YOU.
You seem to have a LOT of anger, Laura. I think getting a handle on your anger will do you a lot more good than simply endlessly venting spite about foreigners.
"Fake, There's only room enough for one fake around here--ME!! No soup for you. You're banned, until you leave an e-mail address that I can each you at."
Looks like Jawa is turning into Blogs for Bush. Those guys nix anything that doesn't make Bush look like some kind of demigod -- no, scratch that -- like GOD. And if you imply that Kerry is a human being, not some sort of demonic mish-mash of atoms assembled by Satan himelf, consider yourself yourself banned for life.
Huan-ying ni dao Communist China!
Posted by: trr at November 10, 2004 08:33 AM (eCUWq)
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A blog is a person's own SITE. You no like, you leave. It's not a public forum, although at times, it seems like one. We are guests. This is not a free speech area. The blogmeister can shut it down anytime he wants. He can also choose to keep what he wants....it's HIS blog.
If that means all pro-Bush stuff, so be it. Start your own lib blog.
Posted by: Laura at November 10, 2004 05:18 PM (ptOpl)
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trr:
Ive been trrrying real hard,I honestly have believe me,not to bring the tone down,not to swear,to see your side of things,but I was reading your article in the small frame window,started out ok didnt you,brought me in,got me hooked you,hoodwinked me into
forggetting,forgetting there are people
such as you,'the rambler on' of 'rambler ons', with your overly long drawn out ramalamadingdong loving affairs,but you see I cant hold it in any longer,what with you jerking off with the one hand and typing all manner of shit with the other,it leaves me with no other option,I've just got to say it.Trr Just fuck off!
Posted by: wekno at November 10, 2004 08:39 PM (qRM5y)
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bomb america to get rid of it's wmd and if anyone objects then bomb their city too until there is nothing left. they don't believe in out religion anyway so bomb them all to hell.
Posted by: Abu Musab Zarqawi at January 24, 2005 12:04 AM (G0w94)
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You people are sick.You have no idea what you're talking about.Iraq is a secular country you morons.Under hussein it was illegal to be a seriously observant muslim.hussein had all the top clerics killed.The bombing of Iraq by the USA has wrecked christian churches and jewish synagogues as well as mosques.I have good friends who are Iraqi christians and they are willing to fight for Iraq also,not for islam,but for their country,just as any of you would.The USA excuse for staying there is ridiculous! they say they have to stay because they are being attacked by terrorists and need to protect themselves and the Iraqis.DOH! if they left there would be no attacks against them,its a catch 22.Theres no way out,which is rather conveniant for the investors that are trying to prevent the nationalisation of Iraqi oil.You are all naive and uninformed..
Posted by: hhh at January 27, 2005 02:18 PM (UISeq)
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Your the ignorant one. What you said is partially true however the reason why America has to stay is because iraq will tear itself apart. The insurgents are not just attacking americans they are attacking civilians and national guardsmen. America has to stay to bring about stability.
Posted by: batman at February 05, 2005 03:13 PM (qvUVI)
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For the last 150 years western powers have been fucking around with the middle east and as i'm fairly sure it wont be my australian blood being spilt, i hope the yanks the brits and my government get all the shit they deserve as do you hypocritical right wing wankers who aren't brave enough to sign up and go and fight for your ignorant and depressing beliefs, instead of wingeing in my ear everytime i google search looking for facts on modern affairs.
Posted by: Destroyer of Zion at June 05, 2005 03:00 AM (sSNtO)
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For the last 150 years western powers have been fucking around with the middle east and as i'm fairly sure it wont be my australian blood being spilt, i hope the yanks the brits and my government get all the shit they deserve as do you hypocritical right wing wankers who aren't brave enough to sign up and go and fight for your ignorant and depressing beliefs, instead of wingeing in my ear everytime i google search looking for facts on modern affairs.
I like Jews i hate Isreali's
Posted by: Destroyer of Zion at June 05, 2005 03:01 AM (sSNtO)
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For the last 150 years western powers have been fucking around with the middle east and as i'm fairly sure it wont be my australian blood being spilt, i hope the yanks the brits and my government get all the shit they deserve as do you hypocritical right wing wankers who aren't brave enough to sign up and go and fight for your ignorant and depressing beliefs, instead of wingeing in my ear everytime i google search looking for facts on modern affairs.
Posted by: Destroyer of Zion at June 05, 2005 03:10 AM (sSNtO)
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all u muslim cunts can fuck off! i hate u all!
Posted by: a very english londona at July 14, 2005 12:38 PM (0UacE)
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