March 17, 2006

Public Execution for Child Molesters

Kevin McCullugh and I see eye to eye on a lot of things. Public execution is not one of them. More and more of late I've been rethinking my stance on the death penalty. I'm for it in theory, but in practice, I'm not so sure.

Perhaps it's all the Taliban beheading videos I've been watching lately. The most recent one I watched features crowds of people being escorted by the mutilated bodies. They seem to enjoy it. There is something sickening about a culture that would find pleasure in the death of another human being--even when those human beings are disgusting criminals.

However, on another level, I find myself yearning to personally execute the human excriment who did this. WND:

The men and women who this week were arrested in association with the child porn sting carried out by the Justice Department should experience true justice. They should be dragged to Times Square in New York City, hands tied behind their backs, and their crimes should be announced to the packed square and an international TV audience. They should be given no more than two minutes to sort out their business with God.

And then ... they should go meet Him!

They should have their necks stretched, a bullet placed in the back of their heads, or a dozen bowling balls tied to their necks and dropped into the ocean. Or all three.

So, I'm conflicted.

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1 I see nothing wrong with publicly executing filth like this. That story so turns my stomache I would be more then glad to send them to their maker and face my time in court. But what I would do would not be quick, nor painless. To rape your own toddler and to broadcast it to others, he deserves more pain then I could inflict on him. If any one disagrees with me fine, welcome to the US, the land of open debate. An animal like that needs to be used as a lesson to others of it's kind, and no, 15 years in prison will not send a good enough message. Semper Fi Sean

Posted by: SPO at March 17, 2006 08:27 AM (OZn2O)

2 There are people that are just not fit to live. Public executions I think might be a real incentive NOT to be doing heinous things. There's always going to be people who enjoy watching, but I'm all for it. Take the scum that murdered Carlie Burcia. These kinds of murders seem to happen all the time. As a society, we need to make a statement that this will NOT be tolerated.

Posted by: Richard at March 17, 2006 09:00 AM (7KF8r)

3 I could agree with abolishing the death penalty, in exchange for a complete abortion ban. Stop killing the unborn, then we can stop killing the born.......

Posted by: n.a. palm at March 17, 2006 09:09 AM (UBf/U)

4 Hang 'em High. They deserve it.

Posted by: Palm Boy at March 17, 2006 09:28 AM (fcFPZ)

5 Child molsters should be removed far away from any kids very far away

Posted by: sandpiper at March 17, 2006 09:45 AM (D9h75)

6 As much as I believe the death penalty to be the strongest deterent to crime, for some death is too kind. As in this case. Don't kill them, then "they won't learn nothin'." Let their trial be "to the pain" (Inigo, you should know this one.) Put them in the nastiest prison in the country, in general population, and make sure everyone knows what they did to get there. Cause, cons hate a child molester as much as we do. Let them spend the rest of their days being utilized in the same fashion as they did their own child. They will surely die there, let their death be excruciatingly long and painful.

Posted by: Sly2017 at March 17, 2006 10:18 AM (UADHi)

7 I've come around to the idea that no one should have the type of control over a person's life that abortion and the death penalty have. BUT there must always be exceptions. Regarding abortion, if the mother's life is in danger, a choice has to be made. Regarding the death penalty, there are those people that are no more than rabid dogs, that are so obviously guilty, that have committed deeds so beyond forgiveness, that are so entrenched in their murderous philosophy that only the ground itself can rehabilitate them into something useful. Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler, Milosevic all fit that category, as I'm sure do others.

Posted by: Ernie Oporto at March 17, 2006 10:28 AM (/lpvu)

8 Wow. I would be totally against a public showing of brutality regardless of the crime. I'm a cautious supporter of capital punishment, but no where near to the degree of doing it publicly. It's exactly that sort of barbarity we fight against. While we may privately entertain the literal idea of an eye for an eye thinking that it simply rewards people with justice, in effect what we're doing is sacrificing one more part of what humanity we as civilized people have left. The execution of another person is a solemn occasion, not a sport.

Posted by: Oyster at March 17, 2006 10:48 AM (g9UJq)

9 Likewise Oyster, I agree with the death penalty, but public executions have always been valuable tools of the totalitarian Government to exercise control by fear, or a tool of religious authorities to exercise compliance, like the executions in Afghanistan soccer stadiums, beheadings in Saudi Arabia, hangings in Iran. It's a road I would not like to see opened.

Posted by: davec at March 17, 2006 11:06 AM (CcXvt)

10 'Zactly, Dave. I was thinking about this last night, but having been drunk, I can't remember if I commented on it ;-) A good friend of mine is in Kuwait City right now and last I spoke to him he said everyone was talking about the public hanging that was to occur in a few days time. Regardless of what it was for (in his case it was for possession of alcohol!) people were cheerful and planning for the day's outing to the execution. UGH! Does that give any idea of what kind of slippery slope this is?

Posted by: Oyster at March 17, 2006 11:58 AM (g9UJq)

11 It just makes me shake my head.

Posted by: Jack at March 17, 2006 12:30 PM (aFawc)

12 Tough subject. On the one hand I endorse the death penalty yet have no desire to see an execution so I suppose that makes me a hypocrite. I could and would witness one if the condemned had murdered a loved one though. I suppose if we have jury duty we should have hangman's duty as well, though the feeble and otherwise infirm would rightfully have to be excused. We wouldn't want Granny falling down the steps of the gallows now would we? On the other hand, I doubt the Public would flinch no more over a hanging or gassing or the chair or lethal injection than they would a violent, graphic movie. We shouldn't kid ourselves by thinking stoning or beheading is less humane because it takes longer. A good old fashioned firing squad is darn hard to beat in my books, though I don't think the family of the victim should be billed for the cost of bullets like is done in China.

Posted by: goesh at March 17, 2006 01:04 PM (vX0fY)

13 trial first ?

Posted by: john ryan at March 17, 2006 01:05 PM (TcoRJ)

14 I'm with Sly on this one. Let the scum spend the rest of their days picking up the soap that their new best friend Bubba dropped in the prison shower. Just before they slipped and hit their heads on the toilet. 17 times.

Posted by: CUS at March 17, 2006 01:34 PM (bbXZq)

15 (I hate these damn errors and my comment goes poof!) Goesh, I think you're trying to equate two very different things. There's a vast difference between Hollywood fantasy and and a public, real life execution. I'd even say there's a big difference between seeing a real execution on TV, or a Hollywood movie or actually attending. Three levels of immersion there. You know we have to think too about innocent family members and the damage it would do to them. -------------------------- And John Ryan, yes, of course - a trial first.

Posted by: Oyster at March 17, 2006 02:09 PM (g9UJq)

16 Dude, they frack children! I call for executions on pay per view, with a running man format, and Ann Coulter as host. Unless Richard Dawson wants the gig. Gawd, that would be sweet!

Posted by: Princess Kimberley at March 17, 2006 02:45 PM (9xjdU)

17 Not only execute these filthy humans, you must torture and execute their entire families as retribution. Thier mothers, fathers, children, cousins, everyone.

Posted by: Leatherneck at March 17, 2006 03:01 PM (p74Yq)

18 I give up.

Posted by: Oyster at March 17, 2006 04:11 PM (g9UJq)

19 Not only execute these filthy humans, you must torture and execute their entire families as retribution. Thier mothers, fathers, children, cousins, everyone. How far removed would you have to be to not get whacked, Leatherneck? As for the method of execution, the James Bond movies provide a ton of creatively gruesome possibilities. My favorites: Getting sliced in half by a high-powered laser, starting at the nuts (Goldfinger), getting dropped into a shark tank (The Spy Who Loved Me) or out of an airborne vehicle without a parachute (A View To A Kill), getting locked in a car that is then crushed into a cube (Goldfinger again, although in that case the guy was already dead), or, well, just about any actual or attempted offing done in Licence To Kill.

Posted by: Joshua at March 17, 2006 04:17 PM (2c7xL)

20 I think we all need to go back to hangings myself.. done right, it is quick and painless.. I'm guessing not cruel and unusual.. maybe to someone watching.. charles manson would be one to hang, and any other child molesters who are guilty...

Posted by: The Other Dave at March 17, 2006 05:19 PM (o03mE)

21 Oyster: Slippery slope? Slippery slope?!?! There USED to be public executions in America and Europe, and I know of no accounts from those days of businesses involved in the rape of infants and children as entertainment for live audiences. The REAL slippery slope is that which makes it progressively less risky to engage in felonious activity, and I think we as a nation are nearing its bottom. My ideal punishment for these wastes of skin? Place them in small cages with their hands tied above their heads. Then allow the public to pay for the privilege of reaching in, metal spoon in hand, and ripping a chunk of flesh from their bodies. An eyelid. An eye. A flap of scalp wrapped in blood-matted hair. A lip. A scrotum, or a penis, or a testicle. A prostate extracted transrectally. And just to be equal opportunity, a labia majora, labia minora, or clitoris. A nipple. A length of intestine pulled out through the belly button. A set of vocal cords. A tongue pulled out through the hole where the vocal cords used to be. A heart, with double your money back if it's still beating. A chunk of lung pulled out from between the ribs. A length of muscle peeled from the bone. Hell, just a blob of belly fat. Anything anyone can imagine. And just for good measure, IV fluids will be administered to prolong life, and bleeding wounds cauterized with a blowtorch. There are some people whose existence ought not be tolerated by a civilized society, and child molesters are at the very top of that list.

Posted by: Guncrazy at March 17, 2006 08:48 PM (xtzF2)

22 Guncrazy: Are you seriously suggesting that 'public' executions would be much more of a deterrent than the ones they have now? 'oh no! someone might be mocking me and having a picnic while they're killing me'

Posted by: davec at March 17, 2006 10:58 PM (CcXvt)

23 "There USED to be public executions in America and Europe, and I know of no accounts from those days of businesses involved in the rape of infants and children as entertainment for live audiences." Don't put words in my mouth. And take note of the words "used to be". There's a reason for that. It's called civilization. You don't like "slippery slope"? Okay, how about "backslide"?

Posted by: Oyster at March 18, 2006 06:22 AM (YudAC)

24 McCullough twists the truth on the execution of Lincoln's assasins to make his point. If you have to lie to make an argument what does that say for the argument? The biggest problem that I have with executing criminals is the fact that the government does it. Every day blogs just like this one are filled with items about how badly government does things. I don't think a government that steals money from our pockets to fund a $255 bridge to nowhere is trustworthy.

Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at March 18, 2006 01:49 PM (oF7U/)

25 Right or wrong, my opinion is that these animals do not deserve to live among humans. Furthermore, although her physical wounds may heal, that child's soul has been shattered, irreparably. Long into her adult life (IF she allows herself to live, some victims do not!) she will have vague shadows of memory, or perhaps vivid memories of the pain, not to mention the loss of innocence, the absolute abandonment of trusting anyone to keep her safe. I don't have the answer, only my opinion, but I DO KNOW THIS - this is NOT what God had in mind for this child. I hope that she does not have to grow up in a world so sick that it allowed her father to get away with HIS life intact after this horrific act. As the mother of a victim of a sick tortured mind, I watched my daughter suffer every day for the rest of her life, even though she tried and tried to "understand" and "get past it". Violently molested at the age of 23 months, she took her own life at the age of 13. In her own words, "I know this is a permanent solution to a 'temporary' situation, but I'm just too damned tired to try even one more day." It was the day that her molester was paroled from prison, free as a bird... the end of any freedom she may have ever known. I say "hang the bastards!'

Posted by: Sandy at March 18, 2006 10:35 PM (f5Luo)

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