This type of post would normally just appear on my site, however since Rusty gave me the keys to the grail, I'll use them to discuss this issue with his readers.
I thought it was Dan Rather and the entire CBS news crew who did a disservice to the American people by showing fake documents and passing them off as legit? You see, to people like Wonkette any attack a Liberal organization makes on a Conservative is legitimate regardless of having any facts behind it.
I need not re-hash Rathergate as it's been glorified for much too long, however the overall impact Rathergate had on news and American's view on the news has been drastic. The issue Wonkette would rather steer the political debate on was an old, tired out issue that has been debunked numerous times in the past; much like finding an intelligent brain cell inside of Wonkette's rather large noggin.
The second instance of a "Lefty" blogger being out of touch with reality is Andrew Sullivan. Now Sullivan calls himself a Conservative and does have many Conservative views, however his repeated mentions of Gay Marriage and his consistent attacks on Conservatives on this issue has led him out of the closet of Liberalism.
While I've made many links to a few of the Liberal's catchphrases and actions as to supporting terrorism, Sullivan does it all and even justifies it with this one statement. Doesn't Sullivan just seem to want the terrorists to win? If not, it sure appears so.
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"Newsweek interviewed blogger Wonkette who seems to be a rising star in the blogoshpere for reasons beyond me."
Let me help: she is a hot chick who writes some racey shit is a liberal blog. Same goes for Ann Coulter, except she swings from the right.
Posted by: Mr. K at December 20, 2004 04:41 PM (RuGfS)
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While I disagree with calling Wonkette "hot," I do see your reasoning and whole heartedly agree. I must admit however seeing her on television a few times and hearing her comments embarasses me to be a fellow blogger. A giggly little girl is not representative of 99.9% of the bloggers. Coulter has never done this to me, however I have been ashamed at the methods she uses to attack Liberals.
Posted by: Chad at December 20, 2004 04:49 PM (GHPF9)
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Could we all please stop treating Wonkette as if she's a legitimate source of information or commentary? She's an idiot, end of story.
Posted by: Leopold Stotch at December 20, 2004 05:06 PM (yK06i)
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Leo - I bet she is making money being an idiot...Chad, I guess hot is in the eye of the beholder. No offense, I have never seen you, but my guess is that you and all of Rusty's blogging pals are mostly dorky white guys.
Posted by: Mr. K at December 20, 2004 05:18 PM (RuGfS)
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"Leo - I bet she is making money being an idiot..."
Yes, and Pamela Anderson is making money being a Skank (come to think of it, so is Wonkette). I still wouldn't touch her without donning a CDC clean suit.
"No offense, I have never seen you, but my guess is that you and all of Rusty's blogging pals are mostly dorky white guys."
Did you have a point?
Posted by: Brian B at December 20, 2004 06:07 PM (CouWh)
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At least Mr. K was gracious enough to say that Rusty and the rest of us are *mostly* dorky white guys. I can't escape the white guy thing, but I will go on believing that I am not, in fact, dorky.
Wonkette, I think, jumped the shark on the washingtonienne story. There, all in one convenient package, was everything that Wonkette looked for in a news scandal. That that skanky story so well suited her really cast a sharp light on her value as a commentator on world events.
Posted by: buckethead at December 20, 2004 07:41 PM (2c+XF)
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Heh. Mr. K, against my better judgement I shall respond to your assumption that most of Rusty's friends are "dorky white guys." For the sake of not getting into an argument reminiscent of high school, let's just assume all of Rusty's friends are dorky. Do all dorky white guys only find dorky women hot while not finding other women attractive?
I'm just a bit perplexed at why this was even included in your argument. In something that I thought would be a funny conversation turned into a popularity contest of some sorts. I'm sorry, but how lame is that?
Posted by: Chad at December 20, 2004 08:09 PM (rqcBn)
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Brian B, Buckethead, et.al. my point is that it is all about money. There are lots of dorky white guys who spout out liberal or right wing nonsense. But add a little sex and it sells.
And Beth, why be offended about any comparisons you see written on a comments section of a weblog anywhere? Why be offended about anything you read on the internet? Here is a good comparison for you: you could scoop the brains out of Ann Coulter and swap them with Wankerette's so they traded ideologies and spouted the other's nonsense instead and they'd both have the same notoriety.
In other words, if they were ugly, I think the world would be ignoring them both.
...and I guess dorky is in the eye of the beholder too.
Posted by: Mr. K at December 20, 2004 08:09 PM (+LrER)
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at December 20, 2004 10:39 PM (D39Vm)
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People who disagree with you on issues, political or otherwise, do not deserve to be judged and portrayed as delusional, and to have their opinions distorted and attacked in such terms relentlessly, in the service of your view of the world. Treating people that way for disagreeing with you is evidence of a bankrupt imagination, among other vices, because it is so utterly prosaic; for every supposed "nut" you find on the left, someone can name one for you on the right.
You're engaging in sophistry. Instead, since most people on the left and right are sane enough, let's argue about meaningful distinctions.
Posted by: Marc Lawrence at December 21, 2004 12:42 AM (SjWJJ)
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I invented cool.
Its not "white" anymore; its "anglo-American."
Chicks dig Rusty too.
Posted by: Jane at December 21, 2004 07:11 AM (+7VNs)
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Pam looks great. But, is she real? I mean, if its not plastic isn't it supposed to jiggle. Or perhaps, another product of medical science?
Posted by: greyrooster at December 21, 2004 08:19 AM (K/qjk)
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Sorry I wasn't here sooner but, I was busy getting my ass kicked by a girl.
Posted by: Iggyi at December 21, 2004 09:35 AM (1Z4Aq)
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let's see: "delusional"; that would be stepping over the clearly malevolent use of forged documents to revive a debunked argument and smear a sitting president weeks before an election, then remonstrating with those who object by saying that the focus should remain on what was originally targeted by the fraudulent framers of the discourse - that stupid, mean president. see also describing islamofascists as "insurgents" and aligning them with the liberal faction in America.
for some reason known only to the oracle that is Marc Lawrence, no one should be portrayed that way, regardless of its veracity. because it would be judgmental, and therefore wrong. and clearly explicating your case as you did is being relentless, Chad, so stop that too. and don't forget that since the landscape is dotted with "supposed 'nuts,'" you clearly have a "bankrupt imagination, among other vices". which, since you are being ploddingly logical, must be some kind of "sophistry".
fun with words! that's what blogging is! and don't forget to check out Marc's amazing site. but don't bother with your pernicious and pedantic comments. he apparently doesn't allow them. he's exercising
his right to free speech, there and here, the kind which Wonkette and Sully would heartily encourage. we should be thankful for the lessons Marc and his ilk deign to teach us.
Posted by: tee bee at December 21, 2004 11:32 AM (q1JHF)
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"Brian B, Buckethead, et.al. my point is that it is all about money."
Mr. K,
Sorry if I misread your comment, bnut it seemed to me that the last bity, about dorky white guys, was meant as a personal slam. IF I misread that, I apologize.
And while you're right, that sex sells and thus Wonkette makes a lot of money, my point is that it in no way invalidates the claim that she's an idiot.
Posted by: Brian B at December 21, 2004 02:50 PM (CouWh)
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Wonkett is not a rising star in the blogshpere. That star rose in June and has disappeared since. NEWSWEEK hates blogs so they picked a very bad blog to push, hoping readers would go there and then see that blogs are all chintzy, benighted electronic “fish wraps”. If you don’t know why the star rose in June it is *NOT* important.
She obviously is completely out of touch with the story or she would know it is all a pack of lies. Both Killian’s wife and son said that he had the greatest respect for Bush. The son BTW was in the same TANG squadron. Subsequently several other officers and a few noncoms who served with Bush have said the story line is a complete fiction ginned up by Viacom and Rather. If she had bothered to read just a few of the blogs between 9/10 + 9/15 she would not have said the completely wrong things she said. But if you ever visited her blog you would know that she like Dan just makes “News” up. This explains why prior to the NEWSWEEK plug it got relatively few hits.
The only way one can honestly call Andrew Sullivan a conservative is if he calls Ronald Reagan a liberal. More intellectual chicanery from the MSM and America hating blogs.
Rod Stanton
Cerritos
Posted by: Rod Stanton at December 22, 2004 10:57 AM (tHUgl)
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