1 That new little .17 HMR stuff is light-shooting and low recoil for the youngsters, but watch out the long-distance benchrest guys don't sneak a few in while he's staked out on an anthill.

2 Life without parole on a pig farm. Televised 24/7.

3 ummmmm. well first we gotta catch him. That does seem to be a problem. 5 years seems a little long to me to have to wait. Let's hope that we get him before either his kidneys fail or he dies from old age. After 5 years it seems that we aren't any closer. Oh yeah and The Math can not forget the Math. Anybody remember what one B 1 or B2 bomber cost ? Offer to put that cost into rural economic development of the BorthWest Frontier Province roads schools hospitals. Save 10 million for free MTV for all the kids there. That should get us some real intel.

4 John Ryan, that's because you have no patience. These things take time, and other pressing matters have come along in the meantime, such as stinking traitors supporting the enemy. It will require more time to solve this problem also, but you must remember that Rome wasn't built in a day and the problem we have is not likely to be solved quickly. More the reason to continue a long-term policy that will have the desired results. This country and world did not get in the mess they are in overnight, and it is bound to take us many years to get it straightened out. So relax and enjoy life, you are not likely to be in any danger soon. Just know that there are people who are working hard behind the scenes to make sure everything will come out right. Osama is just a symtom of the problem, and his capture is really not important anyway. It would be better if he just disappeared into the night.

5 For someone who doesn't seem to grasp basic logic, John sure is obsessed with math, as it seems to pop up in all his posts. The fact is that bin Laden is hiding out in either Iran or Pakistan and there is absolutely nothing we can do about that, short of invasion. Liberals are so stupid.

6 Offer to put that cost into rural economic development of the BorthWest Frontier Province roads schools hospitals. Huh? What does the BorthWest Frontier Province (whatever that is) have to do with blowing the crap out of our enemies?

7 I don't think I'll mess with Chris

8 Pixy, John thinks that we should pay Danegeld to the 'slamotards, not because he thinks it would make them peaceful or anything, but because he's a gutless chickenshit handwringing bedwetting leftard liberal who thinks that if we just give the bully our lunch money he'll be our friend. I we aren't going to hang cowards and traitors, we at least shouldn't let them poison the well of public discourse with their idiocy.

9 Always felt OBL has been dead for sometime but not able to prove it. Everybody is gonna demand some kind of physical proof. suspect AQ keeps him "alive" cause a breathing symbol is continuous but a martyr fades in time and memory. Occasional cheap audios and videos that pass thru so many hands don't cut it for me. If he's dead then he's buried in a cave with an entire mountain dropped on top of him. It would take hundreds of millions and Haliburton to dig him out. And all this in one of the most difficult to reach and work in environments in the world. Remember the Hitler myth - is he alive or dead - was that really his burned body - and so on

10 Judas Priest, the horseshit flows thick 'round here: These things take time, and other pressing matters have come along in the meantime, such as stinking traitors supporting the enemy. Four airplanes were hijacked on September 11, 2001. It's now October 12, 2005. That's what, 1,490 days or so. The Japanese Naval Air Arm attacked Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941. On September 2, 1945, representatives of the Japanese Emperor signed a formal surrender in Tokyo Harbor, on the quarterdeck of the USS Missouri. That's what, around about 1,370 days or so. SO, if a liberal Democratic Administration (FDR and Truman) is in charge of the war, we can expect a focused and overwhelming national effort at defeating the enemy. And if a "conservative" Republican Administration (G. W. Bush) is in charge of the war, well, I guess we can ask Osama how that turns out. He's still free, unmolested, somewhere, laughing at us.

11 IM so "There is absolutly nothing we can do about it" ?? OK...... And Patience ??? ummmmm OK But at some point it may well be a good idea to take a look at both our strategy our tactics, and I mean some time before another 5 years goes by. Oh and pardon the occasional typo, it of course should have read NorthWest. Born in 1947 and trying to hold off on glasses. As for paying Danegeld? well of course we already are doing that, just as the Roamn Empire did before us, That Math angle does seem to upset you. What I want is for the "Danegeld" to go where it will do the most good, not to the generals who rule Pakistan, llike D9 tractors instead of F 15s. "Bedwetting.....lunch money taking bullies" IM is this a view of a pained childhood ? Gutless ?? naanaa scarddy cat. Discussion ?? Debate ?? Analysis ?? or name calling.......

12 I got a feeling he ain't laughing, sticky. And when I say time, I'm not talking about 5 years. And we used nuclear weapons against Japan, is that what you are suggesting? Now that would work, of course, but I had taken that off the table. But, hey, since you suggested it, I do admit that there use would definitely shorten the war. But your friends in Europe would never forgive you. Could you live, sticky, knowing that?

13 John Ryan, It's obvious you are no student of history, but have the American gene that requires immediate gratification. When the Seljuck Turks started their immigration into Anatolia in the 900's and 1000's no one seemed to care. After all, the Byzantines thought, the area is starsely populated and there is room for all. By the late 1000's the Turks were attacking the cities in Anatolia and the Byzantines brought an army from Constantinople and met the Turks in 1071 at the Battle of Manzikurt. The Greeks lost the battle and the Turks had most of Anatolia. Had the Turks been impatient and attacked too soon, they would have been crushed by Byzanthium. But they were rewarded by a long patient struggle. The struggle of the modern world against radical Islam will be long and will have many fronts. Only someone foolish would think this war will be over in 5 years. I'm afraid it will take much, much longer than that, because the Muslims have proven themselves to be very patient in the past. The patience of Job will be required for us to win, and there will be setbacks.

14 Immediate gratification? Jesus, Mary, and Joseph. We crushed Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan in less time than it's taken George W. Bush to screw up Iraq and fail to capture Osama bin Laden. Remember Osama? The sonofabitch who masterminded the attacks in September, 2001? The man who -- we were told -- would be brought in "dead or alive"? The USA managed to create a 12-million-man military, the largest Navy the world had ever seen, and atomic bombs between 1941 and 1945. We built 45,000 Sherman tanks. And we fucking crushed our enemies. How's the hunt for Osama going?

15 IF YOU PUT HIM ON TRIAL HE WOULD FACE PROBIBLY UP TO 15 TO 20 YEARS OF STUPID APPEALS IF HE GOT THE DEATH SENTENCE JUST LIKE THEY DO IN THIS COUNTRY WHEN IT COMES TO RAPISTS AND CHILD KILLERS THEN THE LIBERALS WILL COME ALONG LIGHTING THEIR CANDLES AND DENOUNCING THE DEATH PENALTY AS THEY ALWAYS DO WE SHOULD JUST LYNCH HIM AND GET IT OVER WITH