There are people in every country around the world who support radical Islamic causes. Exactly what has been learned to indicate something special in New Zeland is not known.
There have been various rumors as to where the next Afghanistan will be. Some say Bangledesh is the next Afghanistan based upon a growing Muslim population and poverty. Sure, New Zeland will probably never be close to Afghanistan in terms of supporting terrorism, however the alarm given by New Zeland's intelligence official raises a few eyebrows as to why this type of statement was made unless there is a viable threat.
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Surprise to me. My sister and her family spent three years there as part of the American Embassy and if anything was going on, as ignorant of such matters as she may be, she would have known this, that's for sure. It was the safest place in the world for her to be compared to China and Hungary and other countries she's lived in.
Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at December 22, 2004 11:52 AM (D39Vm)
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It won't take long to find them, there's more sheep than people.
Posted by: karl at December 22, 2004 12:41 PM (PM/BC)
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Haha that is true, karl.
~C
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at December 22, 2004 01:05 PM (D39Vm)
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Personally, I think it's probably overblown. Calling a country a "safe haven" sounds akin to Afghanistan under Taliban rule. The differences between pre-invasion Afghanistan and New Zealand are pretty significant, with one being a much clearer example of a terrorist safe haven than the other.
Typically, aspects of a country like free speech or free expression have been considered factors conducive to it being a considered a "safe haven," even though such qualities are a part of any of our day-to-day lives.
So, in a nutshell, I think it's trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.
Posted by: Venom at December 22, 2004 01:56 PM (dbxVM)
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I agree with you Venom. I thought it was a bit strange myself, but then again I've never been to New Zeland therefore I didn't know there were more sheep than people there until today.
Posted by: Chad at December 22, 2004 02:03 PM (+p/DW)
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Chad, mailmen ride bicycles to deliver the mail in NZ and there's this one mailman who tries to "outbike" this horned sheep on a daily basis. Kind of funny actually. Second why would you agree with Venom on anything?
Ewww
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at December 22, 2004 04:43 PM (D39Vm)
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Heh. Cindy, I must have forgotten to take my medicine this afternoon.
Posted by: Chad at December 22, 2004 05:07 PM (TAyPf)
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"Second why would you agree with Venom on anything?"
Uhh...because I'm right? And what kind of idiot disagrees with someone out of principle, regardless if that someone is speaking the truth.
Just because I don't agree with a mindless windbag like yourself, Cindy, doesn't mean I'm an irrational person. My opinions are based on facts. Yours are based on emotion.
Posted by: Venom at December 23, 2004 11:01 AM (dbxVM)
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first define haven
than define threat
than read this post for what it is. fear mongering. i think enough of that goes on over the radio and from the white house.
the blogosphere can do without it.
Posted by: Jorgey at December 23, 2004 11:11 AM (vxVhq)
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Jorgey, I believe you already made your point in your post where you took this post out of context. For fear mongering to work, you must actually have fear in what is reported/advocated. I don't know that anyone fears the report by New Zeland intelligence on this blog therefore I cannot say simply posting something regarding this is fear mongering on my part.
I've heard many critiques of various posts of mine but this is the first time I've been accused of fear mongering. I probably could scare some people with false accusations and fabricated stories, but I do not do this. In fact, I believe if you would re-read what I said in the post you would see that I am more than skeptical, but then again those that believe everything related to terrorism is fear mongering do not take the time to read things in context.
Posted by: Chad at December 23, 2004 11:27 AM (aieOC)
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I don't believe it. However, venom agrees simply because he is in disagreement with orginal info. If inthebullpen would have stated (New Zealand is not a safe place for terrorists) venom would have replied Oh yes it is. Has nothing to do with right or wrong. NOW THATS A FACT.
Posted by: greyrooster at December 23, 2004 12:27 PM (visY3)
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Whatever you say, conspiracy theorist.
I said New Zealand shouldn't be considered a safe haven because it doesn't fit the profile as a safe haven. Get your head out of your ass.
Posted by: Venom at December 23, 2004 12:48 PM (dbxVM)
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Those sheep with the 'goaty beards' can also be of great use, such as providing camouflage for the terrorists.
Posted by: Karl at December 23, 2004 02:48 PM (PM/BC)
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Dammit, I am not a mindless windbag, Venom. You are. Actually I agreed with your post but that's another story. I will not kowtow to you in any way; it's just to easy for you to put others down and I wish you'd go back to your anthill and stay there. You are not welcome here and for someone so stupid, I know an awful lot.
Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at December 24, 2004 01:36 AM (D39Vm)
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