March 23, 2006

Muhammed on Apostasy: There's a reason so many Muslims approve of the death penalty for apostates

Why do "radical" Muslims believe that apostates ought to be given the death penalty? Because that is what Muhammed taught, that's why!

For instance, Muhammed is reported as saying:

"If someone changes his deen - strike his neck!" [Malik's Muwatta Book 36, Number 36.18.15]

"The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Apostle, cannot be shed except in three cases: In Qisas for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (apostate) and leaves the Muslims." [Sahih Bukhari Volume 9, Book 83, Number 17]

"(He was) a Jew who embraced Islam and has now turned apostate." Muadh said, "I will surely chop off his neck!" [Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 59, Number 632]

So, 'moderates' face an uphill battle in trying to convince Muslims that freedom of religion is a fundamental right because the example of Muhammed is one of a person who expressly endorses the death penalty for apostates--at least according to those hadiths (traditions) considered most authentic. Thus, it should come as no surprise that many in the Islamic world have no problem with jailing apostates, fining them, or even killing them.

Clinton Taylor catches the Yale student Sayed
Rahmatullah Hashemi justifying the imprisonment of Christian converts and missionaries back when he was working for the Taliban:

Their priority was to propagate Christianity which they were not supposed to do here
There's more, including an episode where Rahman urges a television set showing a movie on Jesus to be turned off, lest he too be accused of the capital crime of proseletyzing. Pictures too.

Given the example of Muhammed, does it come as any surprise that Danish Imam Ahmed Akkari has issued death threats against Naser Khader of the Social Liberals, caught on hidden camera?

If [Naser Khader] becomes the Minister of Foreigners or Integration, why donÂ’t we send out two guys to blow up him and his ministry?
Apparently Akkari said it was a joke. Excuse me if I don't find it funny. Agora has more on the reaction.

It's frightening to see the intellectual and moral laziness of those who wish to equivocate religous & cultural stances on freedom. The chief culprit are journalists and editors in the MSM who either cannot see the difference between 'extremist' Buddhists and Muslims, or are just afraid to express those differences for fear of the latter.

Rob at Say Anything notices that Reuters has an article noticing the similarities between the Western reaction to the possible death of a man for expressing his inelianable right to leave a religious faith and to Islamic fascistic reaction to the Muhammed cartoons. Except, of course, the rest of the al Reuters story tells of one group standing up for human rights, and the other trying to quash them. They keep using that word similar. I do not think that word means what they think it means.

So, does this mean that we should not wage the war against radical Islam? That going in to Afghanistan was a mistake? That the Iraq war was a mistake?

No, of course not. Afghanistan is headed in the right direction and so is Iraq. Before our invasions of those two countries things were much much worse. As Clint also points out in his article, the Taliban sent Christian converts to re-education camps. There is more religious freedom in Afghanistan now than at any time.

However, we should have guarded optimism about the extent to which Muslim countries can ever achieve universal human rights. Even in moderate countries, such as Malaysia or Jordan, it is illegal to distribute Bibles to Muslims. The difference, then, between moderate Muslim nations and those in the extreme lie in the reaction to apostasy and not in whether or not apostasy is seen as a crime.

Islam is not just another religion like Christianity, Hinduism, or Buddhism. It does not recognize seperate spheres for politics and religion. Muhammed, unlike Jesus or the Buddha, was the founder of both a religion and a government ruled by religious decree.

This does not mean that Islam cannot reform itself to accept the right of an individual to choose their own faith. It just means that it will be far harder for Muslims to buy into the notion given the example of Muhammed and the ideological system founded by him.

It is good to see the White House and State Department urging a quick and favorable conclusion to the plight of Abdul Rahman. But our liberation of Afghanistan and our hopes for it must be tempered by the reality of Islam as more than just a religion as understood in the West--it is a political ideology.

Here is a good roundup of news on Abdul Rahman.

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1 Dont forget the Word of God, chapter 4 verse 89: "They long that ye should disbelieve even as they disbelieve, that ye may be upon a level (with them). So choose not friends from them till they forsake their homes in the way of Allah; if they turn back (to enmity) then take them and kill them wherever ye find them, and choose no friend nor helper from among them"

Posted by: Jimmy the Dhimmi at March 23, 2006 06:20 PM (CI4Lt)

2 If you're writing a sentence accusing people of intellectual and moral laziness, it's a good idea to make sure you know what all your words mean. (The word you wanted was "equate.") I'll own that I can't summon much objectivity on the subject of the inalienable right go door-to-door inviting unoffending homeowners to change religions. I don't think I'm alone in this either; I'm just antisocial enough to admit in public the hearty desire to put some buckshot in them when they manifest on my porch. It has nothing to do with the content of the book they're carrying, I can assure you. Doorstep Koran pushers would catch the same hate, but they never show up, so they gain some unmerited favor with me. Yeah, I know the people who go to woebegone corners of the Earth to feed the hungry and spread the Gospel are scarcely the same species as the pasty freaks in dress shirts who pester infidels here in the states, but it's an irrational emotion. When I hear about people like Rahman I find myself wanting to strike some sort deal like, "Here, you give us Rahman and I'll send you the next 10 people who try to give me a copy of The Watchtower!" It's also hard to get on board with hope for Islam Lite(tm) that seems to possess so many of us in the West. Their attitude seems to be, "Hey, Jesus said a lot of inconvenient things, but we ignore those! Why can't you be hypocrites like us?" I think it'll happen eventually, but I don't want to be around to see it. Once these people quit taking God seriously there will be nothing left in them to respect. Emotionalism aside, I'm curious to see how the legal side of this works out. As I understand it, Sharia is legitimately in force but it conflicts with the constitution. Which should take precedence? There's no doubt which has the popular mandate. Sharia sounds like the Authority of God to people who haven't seen civil order since 1979, while the constitution is some freaky foreign thing drawn up by slicks in Kabul to ensure the flow of international aid into their pockets. Losing the money is unthinkable in Kabul, but snubbing Sharia only costs the central government some legitimacy with the rest of the country, which isn't much of a sacrifice because they hardly have any to begin with. My guess is Rahman will walk but Sharia will be back the moment international aid dries up.

Posted by: ShannonKW at March 23, 2006 09:38 PM (dT1MB)

3 Shannon, I would only argue that they're going against Sharia in other instances already. One of them being that women have been given some constitutional rights that Sharia does not allow for. As long as the world keeps an eye upon them, they will be shamed into finding some justification to go against more of it. Hence the change in rhetoric in regards to Mr. Rahman. They sure found an excuse for him, didn't they? Money is a huge motivator too. It's a step in the right direction. A baby step, mind you, but still a step. They're having a hard time letting go. Think of it as helping to reform an alcoholic. Eventually they'll realize that what makes a nation great is not its government, but the freedoms its people enjoy.

Posted by: Oyster at March 24, 2006 06:22 AM (YudAC)

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