1 i don't know if they actually want us to lose or if they just don't want Bush to be successful. of course, at this moment in history, those two things are two sides of the same coin. my guess is that so many on the left (and in the media) can't handle the idea of a republican or a conservative winning a war. Vietnam wasn't a problem until it became apparent that a republican was going to be president, WWI, WWII, and Korea* were run by democrats or liberals... *not so much a win as a draw

2 YES! They and many others here in this country want us to lose! Defeat to them is OPPORTUNITY! An opportunity to re-establish themselves in power in order to pursue their priorities - first and foremost is their liberal/left domestic agenda. Consequences of losing are irrelevant to them. They believe they are tolerable - and if necessary - fixable later with their brilliance. Even on the aspect itself of war - if it is necessary in the future - they will fight it their way with their strategic brilliance and faux-muscle. They however are idiots - self-absorbed and disasterously delusional!

3 i'm just wondering what 'want' is doing in the past tense in your if-clause... they still want us to lose in Iraq! They wont be satisfied until they're enslaved and "only obeying orders".

4 And that's suppose to pass for what exactly? A critique of tense utilization? So obviously - self-absorbed an definitely delusional.

5 Hmmm. I'm not finding anything at all about this on the lefty blogs.

6 I think a lot of people underestimate how much liberals really hate this country and all it stands for. Not enough for them to actually leave, mind you, but enough to wish for its defeat militarily and culturally. When I'm in charge, they can leave or die.