March 01, 2005

Judge Orders Dirty Bomber Released or Tried in Civilian Court

Jose Padilla has been held as an 'enemy combatant' for over 2 years now. It's time to charge him with something. Releasing him, of course, is not an option.

NYT:

A federal district judge in South Carolina ruled Monday that President Bush had greatly overstepped his authority by detaining an American citizen as an enemy combatant for nearly three years without filing criminal charges. The judge, Henry F. Floyd, ruled that the government must release the American, Jose Padilla, within 45 days from the military brig in Charleston, S.C., where he has been held since June 2002. That left the Bush administration time to appeal, and a Justice Department spokesman, John Nowacki, said officials immediately decided to do so.
Michelle Malkin makes a good point:
Yes, the Bush Administration should have to prove it, but in a military tribunal not in a civilan court.

Much of the evidence against Padilla--his own statements, the statements of other captured al Qaeda operatives, information provided by intelligence agents--either would not be admissable in a civilian court or could not be presented without compromising intelligence assets. A military tribunal, by contrast, could admit such evidence and would not be obligated to share it with Padilla or his lawyer.

I'm not sure why Michelle believes national security would be compromised, especially given that Padilla's co-conspirator has already been convicted in a British court. However, the military trial seems fine by me.

[Update: Never blog on an empty stomache. Seriously, I'm on a Snickers diet. No joke. Just replace one meal a day with Snickers and you lose the weight. Do you think I could get that same deal that Jarred has going with Subway? The post has been changed to reflect a now Snickers full stomache]

When you engage in military actions against the US you ought to be treated as an enemy. The last time I checked the Geneva Convention allowed captured non-uniformed combatants caught engaged in acts of sabatoge to be put to death. Even when those combatants are domestic citizens.

Let's see how Padilla enjoys an old-fashioned firing squad.

James Joyner and Steve the Poliblogger are obviously thinking about ex Parte Milligan when they argue that US citizens must be tried in a civilian court. The rule does not apply to US citizens engaged in insurrection against the US. The difference being that Padilla was actually involved in military actions (ie, he is a combatant) vs. Milligan who was only engaged in drumming up support for the Southern cause (ie, he was a non-combatant).

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1 One 9mm round to the base of the skull and this no longer is an issue. Yeah, the same thing for Padillia ;-)

Posted by: elliott at March 01, 2005 01:40 PM (RLooS)

2 I agree, let's put him on trial. He is a citizen and deserves one. Let's not forget that the government has a good track record these days against terrorist and accomplises in court. We don't have to flush all rights and liberties down the drain to save our freedom. Rush and other blowhards can whine about the courts interfering and intelligence we might get from him. But even on that, it is a fallacious argument. He has been in custody for years and any of his intel is outdated and his contacts have covered their tracks, also a dedicated jihadist is not going to roll over like some street perp on "Law and Order" for a reduced sentence. As far as anyone knows, he could have just been heard shooting his mouth off in a diner and had no real plans. One of the freedoms we are fighting for,I thought, is a fair trial for all, regardless of our personal distaste of his beliefs.

Posted by: Dumbo_the_Elephant at March 01, 2005 02:07 PM (E11IA)

3 If the government has so much damning evidence against padilla then why dont they show it in an open court of law? I thought the shoe bomber was richard reid? Padilla was held on dirty bomb assumptions which have never been evidenced by anythning. HE is an American citizen who essentially "disappeared". And "conservatives" support this. Interesting ernie

Posted by: ernie at March 01, 2005 02:42 PM (ursvs)

4 Put him on tial and send him to prison for life and if he is released under the judges order and commits a crime like murder then give him the death scentence and exicute the judge as well

Posted by: sandpiper at March 01, 2005 03:00 PM (AOQk0)

5 Just send him out for a night with Ted Kennedy - if Ted's driving, odds are Padilla will be breathing in water by 1 am.

Posted by: Preston Taylor Holmes at March 01, 2005 03:08 PM (WsZ4F)

6 PTH I like your thinking,

Posted by: Rod Stanton at March 01, 2005 03:13 PM (BFHRP)

7 He's an enemy agent so its military trial not civil.

Posted by: Rod Stanton at March 01, 2005 03:16 PM (BFHRP)

8 Ouch!!! Ernie is like so right!!

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at March 01, 2005 03:22 PM (JQjhA)

9 "The last time I checked the Geneva Convention allowed captured non-uniformed combatants caught engaged in acts of sabatoge to be put to death." why allow international law to ride roughshod over the constitution?

Posted by: actus at March 01, 2005 05:42 PM (5Lqt9)

10 A suspected "terrorist",American citizen or not, deserves whatever just desserts he gets.....A military tribunal for this asshole would suit me just fine. Why waste my hard earned tax dollars on garbage like him? No, give him his say, find him guilty, and throw him in a hole....forever M.W.

Posted by: MIGHTY WHITEY at March 01, 2005 08:03 PM (J1C0B)

11 The question in Ex parte Milligan was whether or not the civilian courts were functioning. The ruling says that when the civilian courts are functioning, then they must be used. Read it yourself...see the links at My posting on this matter. THEN hang the bastard. I don't want a future "President Hillary! Clinton" to have such powers!

Posted by: Ranten.N.Raven at March 01, 2005 10:01 PM (yKRRo)

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