1 Party pooper.

2 Rusty, You called it guy! Thanks for putting the breaks on our cynacism. It's difficult to avoid an instinctive reaction of suspicion, after so many recent deceptions.

3 Its so easy to keep a bad taste in the mouth, especially after the previous hostages. Its still important for me to know her priorities when going there. I thought she was there to report on Iraqis suffering, ultimately because of coalition forces? I hope I'm wrong and she was just doing her job as an objective reporter but is it nuts to think that? I'm not ready to judge her a person of integrity, yet. I'm glad she's free. At least, unlike previous hostages she's beginning to set the record straight and call the bad guys (with her) for what they are.

4 I don't see why her original motives, if they were indeed motives we wouldn't approve of, should dictate whether or not people crash down upon her now. If in a couple of months she starts writing on how good the terrorists are and how bad Coalition soldiers are, and I doubt she will, then we can crash down upon. As Howie said, now isn't the time and most of us would have said the same things if we thought that would be our ticket out of a box and back to freedom. There have been questionable hostage cases in the past, some that Rusty and I have disagreed upon. This case though, at least in my opinion, was legitimate and from the onset it was clear it was a ransom case. Why are more of the "peace sells" kind taken hostage? I don't know, but I assume it is largely because they are the type that seem to think their opinions are better protection than Marines. Sadly they continue to learn the hard way that our enemies don't care if they agree with them or not, they hate them because they are American and not Muslims. The CPT hostage ordeal is a prime example of that. Maybe it's just me, but I don't think I'd go around Iraq without protection speaking the word of Jesus Christ. And what gives with all the open threads? Has Rusty turned Duncan Black on us?

5 Well, apparently you can fool some of the people all of the time. So her pre-kidnapping diatribes against America were caused by duress too, then? She just realized that nobody gave a shit about her when the world didn't cry over that Christian Peacekeeper dude when he got the chop, so she decided to de-camp while the opportunity was viable. She'll do a book deal, and possibly a made-for-TV movie, and her captors will be freedom fighters while the soldiers who were looking for her will be scum-of-the-earth types. Moonbat is as moonbat does.

6 Dr Rusty, You were right, I was wrong. Sorry, Jill; based on years of conditioning by your fellow Ann Arbor America haters, I was willing to sell you out in a heartbeat. IM: join me in reserving all other judgment until she has had a Bud or two...

7 I must admit that I was one of the cynics. I think I was just tired of these hostage frauds. For instance, in the Sgrena case, Italian magistrates are investigating a US soldier for murder, in the case where the Italian agent was killed. And, get this, attempted murder for the wounding of terrorist fundraiser Sgrena. In my opinion, she should be the one on trial. I thought there were some parallels between Sgrena and Carroll. That clearly is not the case. Carroll is not Sgrena.

8 She was on their side before she got kidnapped, so I don't give a good flying rat's ass about her one way or another. She slept with the enemy, so in my book she's a traitor, and it's too bad they didn't give her the chop too.

9 But IM people fuck up. Could be a life changing experience maybe? She has value. Not let's see what she does with it now.

10 IM, yes, she's a moonbat, but a conservative is nothing but a moonbat who got mugged by reality. Jill Carroll got mugged by reality. There may be hope for her yet.

11 Perhaps we should send a list to the terrorists of whom we all agree should have there heads chopped off.

12 No probably we shoul dnot advocatebeheading anyone no matter how much they might deserve it. Like he guy that confessed to what was it 116? He deserves it but being civilized he should probably just be hanged or shot after a fair and speedy trial of course.

13 Jesus H., I can't believe this. You guys are falling all over yourselves to apologize for a traitor. I have no hope anymore, so I'm preparing myself for the downfall of our nation, which shouldn't be long when even "evil neocons" refuse to call a spade a spade. The moonbats have won the propaganda battle, but it will be a Phyrric victory, because when the muslims and illegals take over, then even their most aredent apologists will be rounded up and killed off. At least that's some small consolation.

14 I would have rather Jill said war’s not my thing I’ll help in the effort in my own way.. Caring for the Iraqi people is good. We need people like Jill and CPT in a way. You can’t win just by war along you have to work with the people. While is with they had not been so naïve and said silly things before hand. She kind of had just who is the bad juys mixed up. No liberals have a place in this war if they want it. What better example of the evil as a liberal like her comes along and they turn on her too. Bad bad press for the enemy this time. I’m sure a lot of people would rather she did not go and cost the man power and intelligence to look for her. But surely some things were learned in the process and when she is debriefed even more will/was learned to tie in with that. I would rather Jill not have got herself into that but like Vinnie says we fight for her right to be a fool too. If she feels she must, she must. Let’s just hope she doesn’t get a wild hair again and the rest learn a good lesson. I don't agree with what she said before but whqat happened sure pust one hell of a dent in that line of thought.

15 I don't agree with everything you said, IM, but you are right about the lack of courage of convictions I see developing on the conservative side. You see, you can't be popular with the press, the Hollywood types, the CofC types, the soft liberal and conservative stooges, or even the hard Left. I see this all the time with parents now trying to be friends with their kids rather than being a parent, which requires control and guidance for children. I think that our country may be lost. I see very few even willing to fight these illegals who come into our country and then proceed to tell us what to do. Between the Democrats, who wish to use this horde to gain power, and the lazy ass Republicans who use this illegal labor for ill gains, I believe this to be an alliance that destroys our nation.

16 As usual JJ, you're right on the money. You're welcome to join me in my fortress in the mountains when the time comes, but apologists shouldn't bother, because food, shelter, and ammo will only be for those with the guts to fight.