April 07, 2005
It's Not That We're Against the Troops, We Just Want them to Lose
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Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Posted by: John at April 07, 2005 05:14 PM (2Tir2)
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I think its amazing to assign to a national, travelling exhibit that wihch we find spraypainted on a local sidewalk.
Posted by: actus at April 07, 2005 05:23 PM (CqheE)
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Question their patriotism? Never!
Posted by: Carlos at April 07, 2005 05:25 PM (8e/V4)
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Where's the local Chamber of Commerce when you need them? Not only is this traitorous, it's a f-cking eye-sore. Sweep those boots of the street. The soldiers who died are no-doubt ashamed that their ultimate sacrifice is seen as some kind of stupid mistake. So reminiscent of the crap that serves as "art" these days. The reprehensible organizers of events like these need a life.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 07, 2005 06:01 PM (SENte)
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Yes, a spray painted sign in San Francisco means EVERY ONE in San Francisco agrees with it.
Posted by: Jim at April 07, 2005 06:13 PM (jcSwY)
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San Franfreako, a haven of patriotism.
Posted by: Carlos at April 07, 2005 06:26 PM (8e/V4)
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Define victory when the objectives keep shifting according to George W. Bush's personal damage control.
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 07, 2005 06:32 PM (FV4oJ)
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"Define victory when the objectives keep shifting according to George W. Bush's personal damage control"
R2D2--TAKE ME TO YOUR LEADER!
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 07, 2005 06:37 PM (SENte)
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Honestly Colin, WTF?
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 07, 2005 07:07 PM (JQjhA)
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As no one entity has achieved monopoly-of-force there, a brutal insurgency rages on.
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 07, 2005 07:53 PM (FV4oJ)
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Guided by God Almighty, our Dear Leader has raised the exit bar so high that U.S. troops will be required to stay until the Iraqis force them out.
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 07, 2005 07:59 PM (FV4oJ)
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Which our nation must bear in immense sums of blood and treasure.
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 07, 2005 08:00 PM (FV4oJ)
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R2D2 is getting sicker and sicker.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 07, 2005 08:53 PM (CBNGy)
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Dear Greyrooster,
Did George W. Bush not claim that God had instructed him not only to become President, but to strike Saddam Hussein?
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 07, 2005 09:17 PM (FV4oJ)
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What, pray tell, would you have us do without reliving history?
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 07, 2005 09:17 PM (JQjhA)
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>>>"Did George W. Bush not claim that God had instructed him not only to become President, but to strike Saddam Hussein?"
Collin,
did he really say that? No. Show me.
Posted by: David at April 07, 2005 10:16 PM (8e/V4)
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Dear David,
Search the Frontline site, then search the net for the conversation George had with Mahmood Abbas.
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 07, 2005 11:15 PM (FV4oJ)
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Klan hood... swastika... keffiyeh.
Until humanity recoils at the checkered keffiyeh made popular in the second half of the 20th century as they do at the swastika, it is proof that too many "don't get it".
Posted by: Aaron's cc: at April 07, 2005 11:33 PM (UxMXb)
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AFSC is an organization that seeks peace. They have done a wonderful job at enlightening people about the truth of what is going on over there.
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 08, 2005 12:21 AM (FV4oJ)
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>>>"Search the Frontline site, then search the net for the conversation George had with Mahmood Abbas."
oh, right. According to Mahmoud Abbas. I remember now.
Posted by: Carlos at April 08, 2005 12:30 AM (8e/V4)
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Why am I not surprised that Collin credits the word of a terrorist?
Posted by: SPQR at April 08, 2005 12:40 AM (xauGB)
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Dear SPQR,
You're right, I quote George W. Bush often
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 08, 2005 01:03 AM (FV4oJ)
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Collin, my unhappy little undercooked prawn friend, we* still have troops in Korea, 50 years later, and Germany, 60 years later. And the Germans have lately been kicking up a fuss at the suggestions that the troops might leave.
President Bush always said that we'd leave when the job was done. The job ain't done, so as long as the Iraqis want us around, we'll be there.
Meanwhile, Collin, less of the yellow pills and more of the pink ones and you'll be right in no time.
* We as in America. I'm Australian, part of the Global Hegemony of Good Guys Including America, Australia and Sometimes Britain.
P.S. Rusty, you need to enable (strike) or (s) tags in your comments.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at April 08, 2005 02:45 AM (AIaDY)
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Dear Pixy Misa,
Take the red pill, it's the truth.
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 08, 2005 03:53 AM (FV4oJ)
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Collin:
Its just not true that God told Bush to strike Saddam Hussein. Gold told me he wanted Bush to use neutron bombs to obliterate the entire Islamic world, but Bush, being a peace loving man, said no, I just want to remove the worst dictator since Hitler, and start a beacon of freedom in the middle east. God said you are wasting your time on those lying Arabs. Just nuke em. Bush won't listen to God. That's why Abbas lied about what God said. So you stop lying too...now go take one of your red truth pills.
Posted by: Mr. K at April 08, 2005 06:37 AM (cu0H9)
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Dear Mr. K,
As we are not privy to the unique and complex inner workings of George W. Bush's mind, we will never know to whether he has truly broken through some kryptos-encoded teleological barrier to have received such clear commands from God. What we do know is that he has repeatedly stated that he believes God has given him guidance to take action on several issues, including the drive to become President. According to one who has spoken quite often on God, Mr. Pat Robertson, Mr. Bush told him that he has believed that there would not be casualties in the Iraq invasion. Over 1500 U.S. KIA, 30,000 WIA later, it appears that Bush's real-world Hubris has brought in the wrath of the Greek goddess, Nemesis. For more information on the "Hubris-Nemesis Complex," please consult http://www.rand.org/publications/MR/MR461/MR461.pdf .
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 08, 2005 07:41 AM (fufbw)
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Find who is doing this, and beat their asses with piano wire in the middle of the street.
Posted by: Filthy Allah at April 08, 2005 07:46 AM (yBHNA)
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I am with Filthy. It is about time this Anti American scum was brought to justice.
Deny them jobs. Fire the ones that work for you. Find out where they work and boycott whatever products they make. Treat them like the filth that they are when you come across them in public.
Bail Filthy out of jail after he administers his vicious ass beatings.
Posted by: obsnooks at April 08, 2005 07:51 AM (yBHNA)
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Dear Filthy,
Are you advising that the readers violate the Government's monopoly-of-force?
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 08, 2005 07:52 AM (fufbw)
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Dear Obsnooks,
Why not call the police?
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 08, 2005 07:53 AM (fufbw)
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Collin, go smoke some more weeeeeed you degenerate hippy.
Posted by: Filthy Allah at April 08, 2005 07:57 AM (yBHNA)
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The only thing I can say about San Fran is, thank god for large earthquakes. Maybe, just maybe... the next one that hits San Fran will be the big one.
Posted by: obsnooks at April 08, 2005 07:58 AM (yBHNA)
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God punished the Muslims with the tsunami, he will punish the liberal by destroying San Fran with an earthquake.
Earl Dittman has spoken. You may all be seated.
Posted by: Earl Dittman at April 08, 2005 07:59 AM (yBHNA)
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"Collin, my unhappy little undercooked prawn friend, we* still have troops in Korea, 50 years later, and Germany, 60 years later."
I don't think those are occupations.
"* We as in America. I'm Australian"
Converts make the best catholics.
Posted by: actus at April 08, 2005 08:17 AM (EQbuu)
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>>>"What we do know is that he has repeatedly stated that he believes God has given him guidance to take action on several issues, including the drive to become President."
Collin,
Bush said he prays for guidance, like all men of faith do. That gives all men of faith some measure of reassurance.
Stalin had no faith, and sought no guidance, and that didn't work out so well.
Posted by: Carlos at April 08, 2005 08:22 AM (8e/V4)
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Collin: Relatively speaking, there are few casualties in the Iraq war. Don't write to me again until you read history, the Quran, the Hadiths, the Sunnah, and have taken your red truth pill and talked directly to God.
Earl: You forgot to mention that San Fran will first be afflicted with AIDS before the earthquake. Should it surprise anyone that Sodomites are also Saddamites?
Posted by: Mr. K at April 08, 2005 09:10 AM (Nfw9q)
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Bush is a lifetime memberof Skull and Bones. He and his cousin John Kerry worship Satan not God.
And we will never leave Iraq. WE'VE NEVER LEFT ANY COUNTRY EXCEPT THE ONES THAT KICKED OUR ASSSES like Vietnam, Lebanon and Somalia.
Posted by: GREG at April 08, 2005 09:36 AM (/+dAV)
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You know, they drink alot of Coca Cola in Saigon.
Posted by: Filthy Allah at April 08, 2005 09:52 AM (yBHNA)
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Greg,
that's because they don't want us to leave. It hurts their economy when we leave.
Posted by: Carlos at April 08, 2005 09:56 AM (8e/V4)
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Why doesn't every country in the world ask us to invade them? Please "shock and awe" us too. Our economy will benefit if we are bombed to smitherenes! I wonder when the Chinese will request us to occupy them.
"You know, they drink alot of Coca Cola in Saigon."
I guess we showed them whose boss!
Posted by: greg at April 08, 2005 10:19 AM (/+dAV)
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>>>"Why doesn't every country in the world ask us to invade them? Please "shock and awe" us too."
Because the countries we've invaded have always been despotic, and the elites in charge there have no desire to lose their gig. That's why they don't beg to be invaded.
But once they've ousted and time enough has passed, all have plainly seen the benefits of receiving our attention.
Posted by: Carlos at April 08, 2005 10:27 AM (8e/V4)
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Don't mind Greg you fellows, he has a soft patch on his head, like an old peach. It makes him stupid.
Posted by: Greg's Mother at April 08, 2005 10:30 AM (yBHNA)
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Greg will never be happy until he lives under a Stalinist Regime. Work Camps...re-education schools...
Greg feels the need to have a boot on his neck. Perhaps he should move to Cuba or France.
Guilty until proven innocent in France you know-
Posted by: OB SNOOKS at April 08, 2005 10:32 AM (yBHNA)
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Collin: Just because you do not believe in God does not mean that everyone else who does is Stuuupid.
I am happy you are smarter than everyone else. Please put the gun to your head and pull the trigger.
Posted by: Filthy Allah at April 08, 2005 10:33 AM (yBHNA)
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1454998,00.html
We got it wrong on Iraq WMD, intelligence chiefs finally admit.
The word is "Lied". The people who claimed Iraq was a threat to the United States justifying invasion LIED.
Yes, that is the word. "LIED."
LIED. LIED. LIED. LIED. LIED. LIED. LIED. LIED. LIED. LIED. LIED. LIED. LIED. LIED. LIED. LIED. LIED. LIED. LIED. LIED. LIED. LIED. LIED.
LIED.
Deal with it.
Because in order to make the claim that the US Government was simply fooled or mistaken is to admit that down to a man, they are stupid dumb jerks unable to figure out what every single blogger in the world knew; that there were no WMDs.
Because that's what this latest "error" excuse comes down to, a claim that the smartest person in the US Government cannot compete intellectually with the bloggers who knew that Iraq did not have WMDs. Stupid, idiotic, dumb-as-a-post US Government officials and agents, every single one of them, all were fooled into thinking there were weapons of mass destruction. Not one of them had the tiniest glimmer of intellectual process that suggested that there might be a problem with the claims about WMDs. And all those network news talking heads at ABCNNBBCBS, you know, the men and women making millions of dollars every single year supposedly reporting news to you, well, golly shuckies, but I guess they must be dumber-n-shit too, because not one of them ever suspected that the claims about WMDs they were passing on to you were suspect.
Yesirreebob, that's the choice. Either the entire US Government and mainstream media are all dumber than the bloggers ... or they got caught lying and are trying to save face by calling it an innocent mistake.
Either way, there isn't much point in listening to them anymore, is there?
Posted by: greg at April 08, 2005 10:35 AM (/+dAV)
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Greg,
we invade and oust evil undemocratic despotic elites, from Nazi Germany to Imperial Japan, from Panama to Grenada to Iraq.
I like that very much, and so do the people of those countries.
Posted by: Carlos at April 08, 2005 10:53 AM (8e/V4)
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Germany is no longer a Nazi country nor is Japan imperial and yet we stay.You suggest they don't want to lose the economic stimulus. If that's the case, why wouldn't a country like Israel just invite us in to build bases there? It would be good for their economy and good for us too - the more bases the merrier especially in the ME. Your arguement doesn't stand on two legs. The reason we stay is because we are colonialists.
Posted by: greg at April 08, 2005 11:02 AM (/+dAV)
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We did close a base or two in Saudi Arabia. Why didn't they beg us to stay?
Posted by: greg at April 08, 2005 11:04 AM (/+dAV)
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Bush booed at Pope's funeral.
http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/0,1518,350388,00.html
(In German)
Yeah, they really really love us and want us to stay forever!
Posted by: greg at April 08, 2005 11:15 AM (/+dAV)
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>>>"We did close a base or two in Saudi Arabia. Why didn't they beg us to stay?"
Greg,
Saudi asked us to leave because they don't need the cash, and they're trying to please the religious fanatics amongst them. It's that simple.
So you see, when countries ask us to leave, we leave. As we left Saudi Arabia, as we left the Phillipines, Turkey, Vieces, etc.
When they ask us to stay, we stay, as in Germany, Japan, Spain, Italy, etc. I see nothing alarming about that.
Re Israel, we don't have a base there because we haven't invaded them and ousted their elite, because Israel's elite is a good elite, a democratic elite. Though I know many Israelis would love to see us set up shop there.
Posted by: Carlos at April 08, 2005 11:38 AM (8e/V4)
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>>>"Bush booed at Pope's funeral."
yes, but he's booed by the right kind of people.
Posted by: Carlos at April 08, 2005 11:41 AM (8e/V4)
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no he's booed by the left sort of people. these people boo because they are morons. dead beat morons, to be exact.
Posted by: Mr. K at April 08, 2005 11:46 AM (6vcEq)
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YEAH!! IRAQ was no threat to us! Saddam only butchered his own people! Yeahhhh ! No tie to terrorists in IRAQ. Abu Nida was retired as was Abbu Abbas! Leon Klinghoffer was an old Jew so, what does that matter!
Saddam should be back in Power! Yeaaaahhhhhhhhhh!
Posted by: Filthy Allah at April 08, 2005 12:19 PM (yBHNA)
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Hey Greg, want to come over and smoke some weeeeeeeed? We can talk about how evil bush is and how he is the reason we don't have jobs and live in our parents basement! Then, we can take a bath.
Posted by: Gregs Prostate at April 08, 2005 12:21 PM (yBHNA)
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No thanks Filthy,
I don't want to take a bath with you. Besides,, you only have eyes for Scott Biao, remember?
Posted by: greg at April 08, 2005 01:20 PM (/+dAV)
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Ohhhhhhhh.... (wackwackwackwackwackwack)
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Rusty(gasp).......drool....(pant)....(gulp)
Thanks Dude.
Posted by: Happy FIlthy Allah at April 5, 2005 07:16 PM
Posted by: greg at April 08, 2005 01:22 PM (/+dAV)
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Now run along and go molest yourself some more Filthy.
And do clean the gooop off your keyboard every now and then.
Posted by: greg at April 08, 2005 01:25 PM (/+dAV)
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"Re Israel, we don't have a base there because we haven't invaded them and ousted their elite, because Israel's elite is a good elite, a democratic elite."
Well if our military presense is such a windfall to everyone why wouldn't the great democratic nation of Israel invite us to set up bases there?
Posted by: greg at April 08, 2005 01:27 PM (/+dAV)
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Greg,
Madagascar hasn't asked for a U.S. base either, so what's your point. Are you saying those bases aren't a source of revenue?
Regardless, some people say we already do have military bases in Israel:
"According to Haaretz, U.S. intelligence official William Arkin asserts that since September 2001, the U.S. has set up five secret bases in Israel. The American military is present at “Ben-Gurion International Airport, in the Tel Aviv suburb of Herzliya Pituach and in three other sites."
http://www.citizinemag.com/politics/politics_0503_israel_iran_twhite.htm
Posted by: Carlos at April 08, 2005 01:52 PM (8e/V4)
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"Madagascar hasn't asked for a U.S. base either, so what's your point. Are you saying those bases aren't a source of revenue?"
If there such an economic windfall why don't all countries not led by a despot invite us to set up camp?
Posted by: greg at April 08, 2005 02:32 PM (/+dAV)
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Actually, Greg, you are the liar. Several intelligence reviews have not found any evidence that any western intel agency lied about WMD ( if you exclude the faked Niger yellowcake documents probably forged by the French intel service ).
But then we've found you lying here often.
Posted by: SPQR at April 08, 2005 02:59 PM (xauGB)
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>>>"If there such an economic windfall why don't all countries not led by a despot invite us to set up camp?"
greg,
Ok, I'll try to respond logically to an illogical question, and I'll do it because I like you enough not to ignore you. Here goes.
I haven't asked my bank to pay off my car either, yet it would be a windfall if they did, right? Therefore, not asking has nothing to do with whether something is a windfall or not.
Got it?
I haven't asked my bank because I know they'll say no, just as other countries don't ask because of any number of reasons including the U.S. saying no, or any number of other reasons not to ask.
There, I've given this topic way way WAY more time than it ever deserved, because I like you.
Posted by: Carlos at April 08, 2005 03:11 PM (8e/V4)
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Fair enough.
Have a great weekend.
Posted by: greg at April 08, 2005 03:23 PM (/+dAV)
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Well, I've read enough on this site to know that a number of you are an embarrassment to this Country and have absolutely "ZERO" knowledge of any history. Those of you who know what is actually going on -- please do not encourage the idiotic behavior of the others, it's insulting to the people who have sacrificed their lives and limbs to defend the freedom of speech that some people truly do not deserve, however, the "good" has never required or desired any credit.
Posted by: Kristie at April 09, 2005 04:51 AM (/jxp0)
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Dear Kristie,
Idiotic behavior is the very foundation of what passes for American Foreign Policy today. The true insult to those who are sacrificing themselves and the foreign populations they occupy are the ravenous Bushian Cult opportunists who have followed the advice of PNAC, Chalabi, "Curveball" and other persuaders. They have shamelessly whipped up national fear, beat the skull-drums of raw militarism and let loose a heinous war.
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 09, 2005 08:10 AM (fufbw)
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Okay, you were exactly the embarrassement I was referring too. No need to further reply as I will not be engaging in any sort of dialogue with you as it would be futile. Just Thank God for the people who make it possible for you to be an outspoken moron. Have a great day...
Posted by: Kristie at April 09, 2005 02:29 PM (/jxp0)
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Kristie: Please don't mind Colon (The Stepford Blogger). We all just ignore him here. Still lots of good stuff to read.
Pax.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 09, 2005 03:19 PM (YTaaE)
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Yes, Kristie some of us got our history from this reality ... rather than the Spock-with-a-goatee alternate reality of Collin or the cheap whiskey induced hallucinations of Greg.
Posted by: Robin Roberts at April 09, 2005 07:04 PM (xauGB)
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Dear Robin,
As a firm believer in reality, I refuse to follow the Bushian War Cult's attempts to redefine it in their image. As one of George W. Bush's top advisors said, "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality – judiciously, as you will – we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."
That, my good friend, is a trip into a twisted hubristic cuckoo-clock land with hundreds of billions of our tax dollars, 1550 U.S. KIA, 30,000 U.S. WIA, and the sordid belief that bombing the disobedient will bring forth gushing feelings of peace and love for us in the Arab world.
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 09, 2005 08:30 PM (fufbw)
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Collin,
terrorists will hate us as long as we stand in the way of their Caliphate. If we get out of the way, they'll like us.
But Collin, we don't WANT to be liked by them, anymore than we wanted to be liked by the Nazis. We want to kill them, that's all.
Posted by: Carlos at April 09, 2005 10:09 PM (8e/V4)
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No, Collin, you are not dealing with our reality at all. You are in an alternate universe.
And citing to an unsourced "quote" just confirms it.
Posted by: Robin Roberts at April 10, 2005 04:20 PM (xauGB)
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Dear Robin,
Ron Suskind.
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 10, 2005 06:28 PM (FV4oJ)
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KRISTIE: I love you. You are my dream woman. Care to have an affair with a 63 year old racist?
Posted by: greyrooster at April 12, 2005 12:18 AM (CBNGy)
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I stumbled onto this blog accidentally. If I knew I would be subjected to such blind hatred and stupidity I would Have avoided it. After reading this strand I've been subjected to just about every psalm from the Loser's Lexicon of Left-wing Lunacy extant.
Collin and the rest of her delusional fellow patients in the psych ward of leftist dogma have absolutely nothing to add to the arena of intellectual dialogue. Just one effete, bile-spewing, moonbat canard after another.
If any of you logic impaired mutants ever woke from your self induced hazes of politically correct antipathy of all things rational and decent, you'd realize that the real world has passed you by. You're all irrelevant, inconsequential and inept.
The hate mongers on the left continue to be marginalized and exposed for what you are. The more we humans learn of your true, rabidly sociopathic motives and actions, the more we'll shun and disregard you. Maybe you protozoans think it's a "fluke" that responsible citizens keep gaining ground. The self destruction of your beloved Democratic party is the result of the triumph of reason over nihilism and vicious self interest. We outnumber you. We're growing increasingly weary of your petulant attacks on all things different.
The majority of writers in this forum have made the mistake of reasoning with you imbeciles. They did so because they're decent people. Politically correct fanatics cant be reasoned with. You're impervious to reality. All we can do is prevent you from spreading your filth. The wild eyed, teeth-gnashing, mouth-frothing left will never accept reason. Facts are spurned whenever it's convenient and majority opinion is always scorned. Refuting your sophomoric rants may be cathartic but it will never enlighten you savages. You brain diseased, syphilitic cretins on the left will always blame others for your own shortcomings. You're all averse to reason or logic, much less facts.
The left is characterized by its anti-intellectual hatemongering, dangerous sociopathy, politically correct fanaticism and rigid facism.
The adults of the world are busy making the world a better place. That's why we tolerate your pubescent carping against authority. When it comes down to it, THAT'S ALL LEFTIE PHILOSOPHY EXPRESSES.
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