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CRITICAL UPDATE 10/07: See Indictment forthcoming in Oklahoma bombing case or scroll to end of post for update.

As more details become public about suicide bomber Joel Henry Hinrichs III, who blew himself up outside of a University of Oklahoma football game last Saturday, more and more evidence suggests that he may actually have been part of a larger plot.

Earlier reports indicated that Hinrichs had Islamic jihad material in his apartment that referenced bomb-making manuals. We downplayed that fact as not really evidence of a wider plot. After all, if you want to blow yourself up why not consult with the experts--Islamic terrorists?

But other facts have come to light which raise suspicions.

For an excellent map outlining the scene of the crime and Hinrichs' proximity to these places, please see this post at Zombietime. Other good roundups of the facts can be found at Gateway Pundit, The Politburo Diktat Michelle Malkin, and many many others.

1) Hinrichs seems to have converted to Islam and attended a nearby Islamic center. (see map at Zombietime) However, the president of the University of Oklahoma Muslim Studeant Association denies that Hinrichs was a Muslim. Other witnesses, though, claim Hinrichs was a frequent visitor to the mosque.

2) It appears that the Islamic center is affiliated with the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), a group with ties to the Muslim Brotherhood and which has been investigated for funding terrorism by Congress.

3) The ISNA linked mosque may have been the same one attended by Zacharias MOUSSAOUI. Much more on the Zacharias MOUSSAOUI link at Cao's blog.

4) Hinrichs' roomate, Fazal M. Cheema, was a Pakistani national and neighbors claim the apartment was a center of activity for Middle Easterners. He is described as a 'really nice guy' by his friends. Unfortunately, all terrorists are described this way by their friends. NEIN now reports that Cheema and his associates may have been on the FBI's terror watch list.

5) Hinrichs attempted to buy a large amount of ammonium nitrate, a key ingredient in large explosives such as the first World Trade Center bombings or the Oklahoma City Murrah Federal Building bombing.

6) Hinrichs was later known to the FBI because of his attempted purchase.

7) Evidence at the scene of the bombing suggests that shrapenel was part of the bomb. This is a strong indication that Hinrichs planned to kill more than himself.

Witnesses now report Hinrich may have attempted to enter the OU football game, but that he fled when security attempted to check his backpack

9) Northeast Intelligence Network, who's earlier reports we had dismissed because of that website's long track record of alarmism but who are increasingly looking like they got this one right, claims a source is telling them:

It appears that HINRICHS was part of a larger plan that included members of an Islamic terrorist cell based in and around the Norman and Oklahoma City, Oklahoma area. As a Caucasian, it was much easier for him to obtain the materials needed to create a large bomb, act in concert with members of the local terrorist cell, and strike when relative calm was the word of the day.

A word of caution is necessary here. It is definitely possible that Hinrichs did act alone and was just a sad nut with a death wish. Some of the facts presented above could turn out to be untrue, and even if true could be interpreted in a number of ways. We'll just have to wait and see. But, as of this writing I am inclined to believe that Hinrichs was part of a larger plot.

UPDATE: Where is MSM on this? Point Five has the answer.

UPDATE II: Thank you John at Powerline for the link.

UPDATE III: Michelle Malkin has a newer roundup here. And Classical Values is following the story closely with what I think is the appropriate amount of skepticism.

UPDATE 12:33 P.M: Due to a comment and trackback spam problem unrelated to this specific post, these two features may be temporarily disabled throughout the day. Apologies in advance.

UPDATE 3:30: Police confirm Hinrichs under investigation. Scroll down for update. Norman, Oklahoma, police confirmed in a press conference today that JOEL HENRY HINRICHS III was being investigated because he had acted suspiciously while attempting to buy ammonium nitrate fertilizer at an area store. Channel 5 Oklahoma:

At a 2 p.m. news conference, Norman Police Department spokesman J.D. Younger said an off-duty, plainclothes officer overheard a conversation Joel Henry Hinrichs III had with the proprietor of a Norman feed store last Thursday at 4 p.m. The conversation centered on a purchase of ammonium nitrate fertilizer.

"I think it's important to note that it's not a criminal activity to purchase ammonium nitrate fertilizer," Younger said.

However, he noted that the context of Hinrichs' conversation with a manager of Ellison Feed & Seed was suspicious. Younger indicated that the off-duty officer reported that Hinrichs asked about different types of fertilizer and the concentration of ammonium nitrate in each.

What came of the investigation?

The officer, according to Younger, took a mental note of the conversation and its context, and then followed Hinrichs outside. The officer took down the student's license tag number, contacted Norman's police department dispatch operation, had Hinrichs checked for outstanding warrants -- but, alas, found nothing.

The officer continued his investigation Thursday night, but could only conclude that Hinrichs was an OU student and lived in university-subsidized housing. The officer did contact a Norman bomb squad technician; however, the plan at that time was for the off-duty officer to complete a written report for submission the following Monday.

Of course, Hinrichs blew himself up before the investigation could be completed. I wonder who the officer would have called next once he found out that Hinrichs roommate was a Pakistani national, jihad material was in his apartment, and neighbors claim Hinrichs attended a local mosque?

Still almost no MSM coverage of this story.

UPDATE 10/07 A.M.: Possible new development taken from this post.

An attorney for the Justice Department made an unusual statement today about the possibility of forthcoming arrests in the Oklahoma suicide-bombing case.

Last Saturday, Joel Henry Hinrichs III blew himself up outside of a University of Oklahoma football game. The FBI quickly stated that there was no evidence of a wider conspiracy.

However, WND reports this today (via Reaganites Unite):

The warrant used to execute a search of Oklahoma University bomber Joel "Henry" Hinrichs III's apartment, where an undetermined amount of explosives were found, has been sealed by a federal court at the request of the Justice Department.

Neighbors of Hinrichs allege that he was a frequent visitor to a nearby mosque, but the leader of the University of Oklahoma Muslim Student Association denies this. Hinrichs' roommate was a Pakistani national and sources claim jihad materials were found in Hinrichs' room.

Hinrichs was also under investigation by local police authorities because he had recently attempted to buy ammonium nitrate, a key ingredient in large bombs of the type used in the 1995 Oklahoma City Murrah bombing and the first World Trade Center bombing. Hinrichs killed himself before the investigation could be completed.

Even more interesting is this statement from Bob Troester, first assistance U.S. attorney in Oklahoma City, as reported by WND:

"You can draw whatever assumption you like," he said. "We don't comment on any sealed indictments." (emphasis mine)

Of course, it is entirely possible that Troester simply misworded his answer and that he meant to say warrant. But this also could be a strong indication that Hinrichs was in fact part of a larger Islamic terror cell and that his death was due to the premature explosion of his bomb.

While certainly not conclusive, there is some evidence that indicates that Hinrichs was part of a larger Islamic terrorist plot to kill American citizens at the University of Oklahoma.

Bit hat tip to Reaganites Unite for the e-mail.

UPDATE 10/07 8:45 A.M.: MSM finally starting to report on this nationally. Classical Values is following MSM reaction here.

UPDATE 10/07 3:00 PM: Lawhawk says it well:

Indictments suggest that there are other individuals out there, and that this wasn't a lone individual who may or may not have had emotional problems. We're talking about the real distinct possibility of a terror cell operating in Norman, Oklahoma.

If...Hinrichs acted alone in committing suicide as a result of "problems" in his life, why seal the search warrant and thus prevent the public and reporters from seeing the most critical document of the investigation into the Oct. 1 bombing just outside OU's football stadium and its 84,000 fans watching the OU-Kansas State game?

UPDATE 10/07 4:20 PM: OU President Denies Wider Plot, No Ticket Sold to Hinrichs

The President of the University of Oklahoma has sent an e-mail to students denying that JOEL HENRY HINRICHS III was part of a larger Islamic terror plot. OU is also officially denying that Hinrichs was sold a ticket for the game. They also claim that there is no evidence that Hinrichs tried to buy a scalped ticket.

More here.

Posted by: Rusty at 09:00 AM | Comments (56) | Add Comment
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1 Hmmm...what I'm wondering is how many potential suicide bombers or people who would turn others into suicide bombers are in the US on student visas. Most universities look the other way and make no serious effort to ascertain whether these people are even enrolled in school. I think many radicals are here in the US using this system, and this should serve as a warning. Is anybody out there listening?

Posted by: jesusland joe at October 06, 2005 10:06 AM (rUyw4)

2 Yet another victim of the West aggression towards Muslims. We all know how these suicide bombers come from poor families, live in the poorest parts of town, they are often ignored and the hopeless despair of their life is to much for them, they are often taken into the radical mosques and are taught by extremists to deliver a deadly blow to their foes. This guy fits the classic profile of a poor terrorist bomber that goes back to the "root causes" apart from the fact of cause he lived in America, willingly converted to Islam, went to University, and generally lived a better life than a palestinian but still -- ROOT CAUSES of TERROR people!!!!

Posted by: dave at October 06, 2005 10:19 AM (CcXvt)

3 Sodium nitrate, or ammonium nitrate?

Posted by: Robert Crawford at October 06, 2005 10:39 AM (1j9aH)

4 Rusty, In point number 5, you refer to sodium nitrate, but other reports, including the one in the link provided, indicate that the material sought was ammonium nitrate. Ammonium nitrate, plus fuel oil, was the explosive used in the OKC bombing.

Posted by: lawhawk at October 06, 2005 10:44 AM (eppTH)

5 quite right. This reveals the fact that I took the physics option instead of the chemistry option.

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at October 06, 2005 10:45 AM (JQjhA)

6 Hey Rusty Shackleford, that sounds like Dale Gribbles fake name by the way. Hello also to Michelle Malkin, I'm a big fan. It's incredible that this information is not being spread through the media! Fox News isn't even covering this! - Cabe

Posted by: Cabe at October 06, 2005 10:55 AM (I33+H)

7 Thanks for the shout out Cabe.

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at October 06, 2005 11:08 AM (JQjhA)

8 My personal feeling is that this is much bigger than we will see reported in any mainstream media outlet. There are too many coincidences to this story. The attempt to buy fertilizer, the location of Hinrich's house, the ISNA mosque, and the statium, the beard, his known associates.... Taken individually, none of these are conclusive. Even with only one or two, it's still iffy. When you add them all together, it seems to be rather indicative. Our gvt. still denies that there were any outside connections with the OKC bombing, though. It's not likely we'll ever get any official confirmation, and almost certain we'll get a catagorical denial.

Posted by: NavyspyII at October 06, 2005 11:42 AM (R6yie)

9 good source here locally says tried to get into the football game twice, but wouldn't let security check his bag, and he and a couple of friends had plane tickets to a middle eastern country for the next day. this is wild...

Posted by: wink at October 06, 2005 11:51 AM (LqLgt)

10 thank you keep rolling

Posted by: Meshuga Art Cruncher at October 06, 2005 11:59 AM (FVvgF)

11 However, the president of the University of Oklahoma Muslim Studeant Association denies that Hinrichs was a Muslim. " sounds like standard MO to me - if i recall correctly it was quickly denied that the 911 hijackers were Muslim, or at least 'true Muslims'

Posted by: negentropy at October 06, 2005 12:18 PM (2wJuz)

12 I'd like to respond to dave, who claims poverty and dispair are the root causes of terrorism. Perhaps that is true, but not in this case. This guy Joel was a university student in mechanical engineering, a National Merit Scholar, and a member of the Triangle (engineering-types) fraternity. He came from Colorado Springs, a highly affluent community, the youngest of five children. Although I don't know his family's financial circumstances, his father sounds like a highly educated and lucid individual, though he will, predictably, never accept his son's involvement in terrorism, but instead attributes his son's action to 'depression' and and his inability to fit in socially. So maybe we've got a Lind-type character again, a middle-class, affluent, white kid who needed to 'identify' with some fervent group. Would that he would have just drunk Kool-Aid.

Posted by: Michael at October 06, 2005 12:22 PM (ZPYPz)

13 Another Johnny Walker; but this one did not kill any Americans. Is his dad dumb, or just telling big lies?

Posted by: Jo macDougal at October 06, 2005 12:26 PM (tplWd)

14 Hinrichs WAS NOT KNOWN BY THE FBI because of that purchase. Please read your own links! An off-duty Norman police officer happened to also be at the store and filed a report when he returned to work...which unfortunately happened to be AFTER the bombing,

Posted by: -ed at October 06, 2005 12:31 PM (0oTfj)

15 Ed, I have corrected this to read 'later known'.

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at October 06, 2005 12:52 PM (JQjhA)

16 you really should all know about "The Third Terrorist" by Jayna Davis. (if you don't already). This OU event is not the first terrorist attack in Oklahoma, nor the first involving middle eastern muslim wackos

Posted by: San Diego Shawn at October 06, 2005 01:26 PM (RS+V5)

17 good source here locally says tried to get into the football game twice, but wouldn't let security check his bag, and he and a couple of friends had plane tickets to a middle eastern country for the next day. this is wild... Ummm... why would a Suicide Bomber buy a ticket to leave the country? Didn't people think we should have noticed that the 9/11 hijackers only bought one way tickets? Seriously -- just think about what you are saying.

Posted by: Tom in Texas at October 06, 2005 01:38 PM (a4Pyy)

18 I've got Hinrich's name on a google alert, so I thought you'd like to know that Google sent your link to me. KEWL!

Posted by: heroyalwhyness at October 06, 2005 01:53 PM (7auSQ)

19 they say he was planning on dropping it off, then detonating it from outside the stadium and then fleeing the country. think about what you're saying, tex.

Posted by: wink at October 06, 2005 01:57 PM (LqLgt)

20 So was he a suicide bomber? Or a homicidal bomber? Its not suicide if he doesn't die...

Posted by: Tom in Texas at October 06, 2005 02:02 PM (a4Pyy)

21 sources believe it went off early - not intended to be suicide.

Posted by: wink at October 06, 2005 02:21 PM (LqLgt)

22 In other words . . . OOPS! Can you imagine how much trouble this country could be in if these Ragheads ever get their shit together?

Posted by: large at October 06, 2005 03:11 PM (Ny1Tj)

23 I look at that picture and my first thought was, "I always KNEW that Doogie Howser kid would turn bad apples some day!"

Posted by: Brian B at October 06, 2005 03:17 PM (rGfpg)

24 Just wait for the VH-1 reality show based on his life: "When child-actors turn suicide-bomber: hosted by Danny Bonaduce"

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at October 06, 2005 03:59 PM (JQjhA)

25 Good work on this. If you find any information about shrapnel as part of the explosive, please post it.

Posted by: Scott at October 06, 2005 05:49 PM (qc6yj)

26 Michael you seem unfamiliar with "sarcasm" I was quoting on what we're constantly told in regards to the motivation of suicide bombers which is the core of the philosophy they labelled the "root causes of terrorism" you know the one that in reality reads more like: "AMERICA GREAT SATAN, ISRAEL LITTLE SATAN" "It's all America's fault" This is another example of why there is no "root cause" of the terrorism, and why we should fall back to the fact that the core belief of Islam is the true motivation, no one "hijacked" Islam, it's a highway to radical extremism, in which one shows how great their faith is by inflicting as much death as possible to prove it.

Posted by: dave at October 06, 2005 06:56 PM (CcXvt)

27 You sure he wasnt the bombmaker for the NYC threat?

Posted by: karldotcom at October 06, 2005 07:51 PM (HyJlT)

28 Can someone please explain why the mainstream media would want to whitewash or otherwise ignore this story?

Posted by: True Believer at October 06, 2005 08:01 PM (1xGCy)

29 Is it possible that this is sooo big, that the networks have been called off by the feds, and sooo big that the networks actually complied? naahhhhh.

Posted by: rorschach at October 06, 2005 08:45 PM (xKyLx)

30 I can't seem to get your trackbacks to work. I've linked to your post from http://smalltownveteran.typepad.com/posts/2005/10/if_an_oklahoma_.html

Posted by: Bill Faith at October 06, 2005 09:19 PM (5vspZ)

31 Dale, You're not fooling anyone. Oh, and can I please have my tire iron back?

Posted by: Hank H at October 06, 2005 09:22 PM (/ihes)

32 What exactly is the source mentioning that there was Jihadist literature in the apartment... anything other than WND, whom I cannot recal being correct about anything as of late... Anyone?

Posted by: Ariya at October 07, 2005 12:38 AM (noCGr)

33 I propose that he be called the Sooner Boomer from now on. All villains need a good nickname. (Richard Reid = Shoe Bomber etc)

Posted by: Kevin at October 07, 2005 12:51 AM (j1D6T)

34 Donned my tight black shorts and fitted flag-bedecked tee and took the trusty old BMX for another spin round the park today; fucking swarthy kids all over the racetrack, blocking my path, most of them dirty snot-nosed islamofascist spawn. Waited behind a tree for them to leave, all the while taking notes (I'm a bold, new journalist) which I will pass on to my new buds at homeland security in due course. With any luck the vanguard ... err... Republican Party is going to send those oil ticks back to the rat-infested hell holes they come from. Like Muzziestan or A-rabland. Then I'll have the track to myself. Ride bike fast. Go wheeeee. Love, Charles Johnson

Posted by: charles johnson at October 07, 2005 05:10 AM (O7u4z)

35 There is one more thing here. Remember the witnesses in the Murrah building bombing in OKC who said they saw that third guy? Maybe that plus the Moussaoui link plus this means this cell has ben going longer than we think... and maybe as a pre-emptive strike, coordinated with the NYC plan? We'll have to see, but yeah it is pretty nuts, and the news "blackout" in the conventional press makes me wonder what's up there too.

Posted by: Jersey Dave at October 07, 2005 05:52 AM (MIT6R)

36 Tarantino does Norman?

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at October 07, 2005 05:53 AM (A5eqb)

37 The comment at 5:10 am was definitely NOT written by Charles Johnson. I have never heard him speak or write like that. Silly.

Posted by: Anne Elk at October 07, 2005 05:55 AM (e+tdw)

38 I concurr, that Charles Johnson post is a spoof. Jersey Dave, I was watching CNN the entire time OCKbomb was happening. There were very specific references to the 3rd bomber, and even some on a 4th. The Lame-stream media and our politicians buried all references to them quickly. I am convinced that there has been a cell operating there for quite some time.

Posted by: NavyspyII at October 07, 2005 06:25 AM (ZM3Qb)

39 Don't you get the feeling that if Doogie Jihad (That's My Name For Him!) was a Republican or a Neo Nazi or even better (in some peoples' minds), a Republican Neo Nazi the MSM would be all over the story? Law And Order would already be filming an episode on location. Thank God for the Blogs. But as others have asked, why won't the MSM cover this story? What is there motivation for ignoring it? Has the US Government quashed the story? And is this the first of what could be many attacks against public venues in the U.S.? If I attend the next Red Sox game, do I have to worry about the Green Monster exploding?

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 07, 2005 07:12 AM (ZbKii)

40 It's nice to see that Charles' stalker has such deep seated homoerotic fantasies and a pathalogical aversion to swarthy folks. What's it like being such a petrified, no-life freak? I mean, really, when a "pony-tailed, skinhead, failed musician" is the focus of your life's work, what kind of loser does that make you? A pretty damned sorry one, I imagine. And did you check the complexion on Hinrichs, dumbass?

Posted by: Pablo at October 07, 2005 08:05 AM (BlG1A)

41 Dave, most palestinian suicide bombers have actaully been middle to upper class, not poor and definetly not living in poorest segment of town. Do some research on the subject, before you post fallacies and inaccurate information. Nice try, though.

Posted by: Levy at October 07, 2005 08:09 AM (M88WL)

42 Any murder at a major University is a news story. A student blowing himself up outside a major stadium on a football Saturday is a very big news story. The almost total blackout of reporting of this story is a huge indictment of the mainstream media in the supression of news. One other item....OU is a school with well over 20 thousand students, but school president David Boren is so knowledgeable of his student body that he immediately was able to describe Hinrichs and his emotional conditions. Wow...imagine how conscientious Boren must be...just name a student on his campus and he knows all about him/her...nothing strange there....

Posted by: towelhunter1 at October 07, 2005 08:35 AM (mBGh+)

43 Michael: The guy was a member of the triangle. Ouch! Pablo: Hispanics, depending on where they come from and considered either, white, black or brown. Never swarthy. So chill. That is unless you are a muslim named Pablo.

Posted by: greyrooster at October 07, 2005 09:48 AM (M7kiy)

44 Levy: Try reading the whole comment before firing off your "correction" rant, I already had to redefine it for another person who read the first three lines and came to an incorrect summation. Perhaps you only bother to read through, what you agree with however, so it's no surprise some of you are like the novelty "nodding dog" people place in the back window of their car.

Posted by: dave at October 07, 2005 09:50 AM (CcXvt)

45 Putting it all together... The new stupid looking beard, his Dad commenting that he collected electronics. (Engineers always design aparatus around their comfort zones) I think it's apparent to me that his Jihadist Palestinian roomate converted him and brought him to the Norman mosque. In order to please the the elders he had made a wireless remote control bomb. He was persuaded to kill for Allah and intended to leave ito the stadium and do his own part to fullfill his divine purpose as a new convert. One could further speculate that he hadn't been at the Mosque long so he lacked the real zeal of a suicide bomber to lay down his life. Thus the plane ticket. Looks to me like the bomb went off premature or was triggered by an accidental (or deliberate) alternative signal. Remember the story of the middle eastern guy who was recruited to drive the tanker truck full of gasoline? They had told him he wasn't going to die, just to park the truck and leave... then as he was getting out of the truck he notices the guy accross the street with the cell phone and the truck explodes. (and somehow despite his burns he lives to tell the story) Maybe something like that was happening here. I think that Jayna Davis also reported on sources that the bomb residue showed it was an oxidiser bomb used (hair bleach and acetone) another trace material found indicates this is the same ingredients used in London bombings. Taken with the failed attempt to first buy Ammonium Nitrate it shows someone was feeding him bomb recipes. The timing is suspicious too, wasn't October supposed to have been threatened by jihadists as the beginning of America's holocaust or something like that? Oh and one more thing, several years ago John Ashcroft was quoted that Alcada was actively recruiting on coolege campuses and the prime targets were white blue eyed American youth? There's just way too many cooincidences here. Oklahoma has a terrorist cell for sure and it's apparent to me that the news coverup is in place to protect on-going investigations. (God I hope that's the reason)

Posted by: Rich Stadler at October 07, 2005 10:35 AM (0eidv)

46 RE: 7) Evidence at the scene of the bombing suggests that shrapenel was part of the bomb. This is a strong indication that Hinrichs planned to kill more than himself. Can you please provide a link or some other supporting evidence to this claim? Maybe a note as to where it came from? 'We' in the blogosphere don't want to be accused of not fact-checking our sources, now do we?

Posted by: kes at October 07, 2005 11:11 AM (rphJg)

47 http://tapscottscopydesk.blogspot.com/2005/10/13-plastic-bottles-found-in-hinrichs.html that was linked too in Zombietime which was referenced in the post Kes.

Posted by: dave at October 07, 2005 11:55 AM (CcXvt)

48 The question of motivation is all that remains for me. I've thought Hinrichs intended harm to others when the info about the ammonium nitrate was concerned. Now I'm certain, since local reports have confirmed Hinrichs actually bought a ticket to enter the football game. In light of Hinrich's father's remark that his son was "not a football fan" (said in context of contesting that his son intended to enter the game, and that his proximity to the game crowd was coincidental), the ticket purchase clearly indicates he intended to enter the stadium. He attempted to enter at least two gates, turned back both times because he would not submit to pack search. My personal feeling is he may or may not have had any particular interest in Islam per se, but may have been very gratified to find persons not only tolerating his creepy interest in blowing things up, but willing to give him companionship and attention BECAUSE of his unusual interests in the asplosion arts. So perhaps he did not act alone but took encouragement from his associates. He fell in with his gang, mostly to have a gang to fall in with. Or not. He may or may not have been intending to end his own life. However, his depression and dissatisfaction with the world were real enough, and like many young men before him, he simply decided he wanted a spectacular revenge as well as an end to his own pain.

Posted by: SarahW at October 07, 2005 12:37 PM (jqVs9)

49 A new rumor is circulating that Hinrichs III, the Sooner Bomber, was part of a clever new Islamic tactic to breach security check points by using the appearance of historical national figures. The plan is for new natural citizen recruits to easily be used as bomb carrying dupes into major transit systems and sporting events. It has leaked from the ongoing investigation and cover up that Hinrichs, as an Abraham Lincoln look-alike, would easily be able to enter the football stadium, according to the plan. It has been reported that a newly discovered Islamic sleeper cell of Groucho Marx look-alikes could be linked.

Posted by: Dark Insider at October 07, 2005 03:47 PM (a2JKi)

50 SarahW: Good thoughts. A new prospective.

Posted by: greyrooster at October 07, 2005 11:32 PM (M7kiy)

51 Why are these muslim types so ugly? I mean dog ugly. Not as bad as soon to get his ass kicked but still ugly as sin.

Posted by: greyrooster at October 08, 2005 12:19 AM (M7kiy)

52 cERTAINLy seems like a suicide bomber to me, and he would have done it during the game, killing others, if he had had the chance... One question remains... why did he do it just on himself when not allowed into the game...?? Of course, irrational people do irrational things. Maybe all suicide bombers need to believe they are doing it for a good cause, even though their primary motivation is to kill themselves when they are unhappy with their lives..

Posted by: Teddy Jensen at October 08, 2005 11:04 AM (ywZa8)

53 more than 400 muslims in the norman community, 1 mosque, 1 islamic school. how will that figure have increased 4 years down the line? they're here. . . they've been here. . . and there's many more coming, and they're laying the foundation for the khalifia. I passed the islamic society of norman, or the muslim association of norman--whatever it is-- everyday on my way to class and the parking lot is almost always empty. except for teh white non-descript occasional delivery truck blocking the sidewalk. . . monday morning after the bombing occured, the lot was over flowing with cars. were they having some kind of conference discussing how to handle to their reaction? if so, what do they know that we don't? I have seen a number of middle eastern men in norman who seem to be surveying potential demolition sites--e.g. oil rigs, gas stations at busy intersections w/ a bank on each corner; middle-eastern delivery drivers for the coca-cola company who act inexplicably strange when I try to engage them in polite conversation as one tends to do with one's vendors (kind of convenient that an arab should want a job with convenient access to a large semi-truck, huh?) anybody? anybody? can anybody else in this town see the shoe dropping? as a good american, I've reported some of these observations to the proper authorities. . . god hopes they've taken heed. and what is it with the lily-white terrorists meeting up al-quaeda linked middle-easterners in oklahoma? It seems the FBI should be all over this question. this part doesn't apply to Hinrichs, but what is it with the disillusioned veterans of the gulf war, ie tim mcveigh, terry nichols, john muhammed??? peace y'all

Posted by: slanderpanties at October 08, 2005 12:39 PM (jWaQK)

54 seriously fellas. look at yourselves! you piss and moan about crazy conspiracy theorists when it suits you, but now you can't restrain yourselves. get a grip. you can't you see this whole thing is just a plot to take your attention away from the nobel soldiers being slaughtered, the ignoble soldiers torturing people for kicks, natural disaster f-ups. guess they gotta rally support for the defense budget and the fledgeling war effort somehow.

Posted by: mustafaAK at October 08, 2005 01:34 PM (jWaQK)

55 mustafaAk, if it really was "a plot to take your attention away" then wouldn't they...y'know...tell us about it. This story has been very low key, but not because of a 'government cover up' I'll bet the school kept it quiet to keep up the reputation as a safe school. You're right up the with 'crazy conspiracy theorists'

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