January 18, 2006

Iraqis Cave to Hostage Demands, Release Six of Eight Female Detainees

Why terrorists take hostages.

1) Take hostage.
2) Make demands.
3) Demands are met.
4) Release hostage.

Lesson learned? Taking hostages is effective. Take more hostages.

BBC News:

Iraq's ministry of justice has told the BBC that six of the eight women being held by coalition forces in Iraq have been released early.

The six were freed because there was insufficient evidence to charge them, a justice ministry spokesman said.

The US forces have refused to confirm the releases, but say they would not be based on any operational activities.

The group holding US journalist Jill Carroll has said she will die unless all Iraqi women prisoners are freed.

The status of prisoners held by coalition forces is reviewed twice a week by a committee made up of the justice, human rights and interior ministries, and a representative of the US-led coalition.

The justice ministry spokesman said it was this committee which had studied the cases of the six women and found insufficient evidence against them.

Even if the women would have eventually been released, as the article suggests, releasing them now certainly sends the wrong message to the terrorist scum that ransom hostages for money or political goals.

UPDATE: Speaking of caving to terrorists demands, the sister of the Iraqi Interior Ministry has been released. If you will recall, she was taken hostage by a group claiming to be The Revenge Brigade. This is the same group that is holding Jill Carroll hostage.

Thanks to George for sending this BBC link:

The sister of Iraq's interior minister has been freed some two weeks after being kidnapped at gunpoint, an interior ministry official has said.

Ali al-Khaqani confirmed Bayan Jabr's sister had been released, but would not say whether a ransom had been paid.

Posted by: Rusty at 10:20 AM | Comments (19) | Add Comment
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1 Terrorism pays.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 18, 2006 10:31 AM (8e/V4)

2 EXACTLY.

Posted by: Rusty at January 18, 2006 10:37 AM (JQjhA)

3 LOL, At least Jill Carroll lives. I agree that saying they have insufficient to charge them is bullshit. I wonder what will become of the two other female prisoners.

Posted by: George Ramos at January 18, 2006 10:39 AM (5E0ex)

4 Also you're welcome Rusty. I'm glad I can be of service. Personally I think Bayan Jabr paid ransom to free his sister but hey if it was your sister. You would do the same thing.

Posted by: George Ramos at January 18, 2006 10:42 AM (5E0ex)

5 As long as the media refuses to report negatively on terrorist acts, and continues to give them good press, these things will continue.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 18, 2006 10:54 AM (0yYS2)

6 If it were up to me there would be a permanent, scrupulous no-hostage policy everywhere under U.S. jurisdiction. The sooner and with greater certitude we can associate taking hostages with overwhealming force coming down on your head like a stack of bricks, the less we will have to deal with it. Unfortunately it's not up to me, nor are Ms. Carroll's captors under U.S. jurisdiction, so the Iraqis are free to make us look like pantywaists by caving to the demands. Let's just hope we didn't pressure them into it.

Posted by: ShannonKW at January 18, 2006 10:58 AM (dT1MB)

7 >>>if it was your sister. You would do the same thing. I would sacrifice the lives of ten other people to save my sister, so the fact that I would "do the same thing" is pretty irrelevant. I would hope that our government leaders would be a little bit more dispassionate than that in their decisionmaking. Wouldn't you?

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 18, 2006 11:45 AM (8e/V4)

8 I would number it a little differently: 1)Group targets the innocent. 2)Group kills the innocent. 3)Member of group is captured. 4) 5)Released member rejoins group. 6)Go to #1.

Posted by: slug at January 18, 2006 11:59 AM (0YdQw)

9 Odd. Number four was supposed to be your numbers 1 thru 4.

Posted by: slug at January 18, 2006 12:03 PM (0YdQw)

10 Shannon: Your theory of a U.S backed Iraqi cave in, is hollow in the respect of how many other U.S citizens have had their head cut off for our refusal to release those prisoners, with the same demand, when they were under U.S command, and not Iraqi forces. So why start now?

Posted by: dave at January 18, 2006 01:36 PM (CcXvt)

11 Surprisingly this hasn't made the national news. BBC is the only news organization that mentioned this.

Posted by: George Ramos at January 18, 2006 02:12 PM (5E0ex)

12 Give it a few more days and see how it plays out - I'm holding judgement till then. You know - there is another way to deal with hostage situations - old fashioned and tried and true - it works virtually everytime. We don't do it for PR reasons. It is possible its done in region off-camera and away from media/world scrutiny to some degree. Simple - grab someone the hostage takers do care about - wives, children, friends - and make a trade. I'd do it - in total secrecy of course - strictly professional - not personal - and I'm a nice guy!

Posted by: hondo at January 18, 2006 04:09 PM (3aakz)

13 Hondo that's a good idea cept you assume they care about wives and children. From what I've seen women and children are not considered that valuable. Now his brother or his buddy maybe.

Posted by: Howie at January 18, 2006 04:13 PM (D3+20)

14 Their own women and children are - its a universal thing separate from islam - its even semi-codified in tribal laws in the region - ask Jane - she has first hand experience.

Posted by: hondo at January 18, 2006 04:29 PM (3aakz)

15 Ok

Posted by: Howie at January 18, 2006 04:37 PM (D3+20)

16 Hondo is that like if I kick my dog it's one thing if you kick my dog it's a different matter.

Posted by: Howie at January 18, 2006 04:52 PM (D3+20)

17 Hondo, I seem to remember the Soviets doing something similar in Lebanon to stop attacks against their people there.

Posted by: Tim at January 18, 2006 04:54 PM (5rYy9)

18 Bad, bad policy to release the prisoners in exchange for a hostage if this is what actually took place. I wonder?

Posted by: jesusland joe at January 18, 2006 05:05 PM (rUyw4)

19 The Soviets were big into it - the Lebanon story involves a pair of testicles in a glass jar (early 80's) - its famous among some quarters. They used the tactic big time in Afganhistan in prisoner exchanges - worked with the locals - not so much with the foreign fighters. Its my understanding, the KGB started to pay locals for info just for names and home countries of some foreign fighters so they could threaten and target their families back home. I hear it got - very ugly.

Posted by: hondo at January 18, 2006 05:17 PM (3aakz)

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