If Iran is supplying these munitions to terrorist insurgents in Iraq, they are committing an act of war.
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Is this really news (no offense Bluto) ? The British claimed that Iran was doing this back in October 2005:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1512933/posts
U.S forces also claimed to find, shaped charges in penetrator configurations that had all the hallmarks of IRG manufacture.
I don't think anyone is surprised, either way.
Posted by: cdave at March 07, 2006 12:37 AM (CcXvt)
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...then they are comitting an act of war and if we stand by idly it is seen to them as a sign of weakness, and an opportunity to take further liberties with our complacency.
I wish more people would crack open a history book from the early 20th century. They might gain an understanding of the situation we are currently facing.
Posted by: LC CanForce 101 at March 07, 2006 12:40 AM (3smJS)
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cdave, they weren't directly linked to Iran before, as far as I know - only suspected. Also, this batch was stopped right at the border.
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at March 07, 2006 02:06 AM (RHG+K)
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I agree with Protein Wisdom 1000%.
Posted by: Son Of The Godfather at March 07, 2006 02:43 AM (maXzk)
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Iraq is the new 'Spain'... ie the major powers: China, Russia are using Iraq as a proxy battle to prove their weaponry.
These shaped charges are almost certainly Russian in origination.
Posted by: blert at March 07, 2006 04:12 AM (bbPW+)
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I wonder how much money the liberals are secretly sending to our enemies to support them against us? They want us to lose so badly, and they love to give money to kooky causes, so I'll bet a dollar they're giving money to the terrorists.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at March 07, 2006 05:36 AM (0yYS2)
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A strongly worded UN resolution of condemnation will fix 'em!
Posted by: goesh at March 07, 2006 06:48 AM (vX0fY)
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And why should we take richard clarkes word on anything, he also said Iraq had wmd's. Also the only proof they offer is that the bombs have similar tool marks...they are not stamped Made in Iran!!!! Also the fuses are made in the UK (thats England for you illiterates)So it looks like once again the war mongering right wants to start bombing brown people for no honest reason....keep in mind, the day we do that is the day before gas goes to $8.00 a gallon.
Posted by: madmatt at March 07, 2006 08:24 AM (J8hqn)
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Matt, you don't have the slightest clue what you're talking about, do you?
Posted by: Oyster at March 07, 2006 08:31 AM (n/nt4)
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>>>And why should we take richard clarkes word on anything, he also said Iraq had wmd's.
Not only richard clarke, but every Leftwing moonbat that said America "made" Saddam.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at March 07, 2006 09:07 AM (8e/V4)
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when I scrolled through the pictures on the ABC site the bombs all appeared to be casings. They said these shaped charges could also be made with tin cans and plastic. As for the border I thought southern Iraq was now the defacto newest province of Iran ? Do they still have a border ?
Posted by: john ryan at March 07, 2006 09:11 AM (TcoRJ)
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Time to declare war in IRAN and stop this war crimes being carried out by the iranian goverment
Posted by: sandpiper at March 07, 2006 09:36 AM (QtdTZ)
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"All the fuses are made in the UK(that's England for you illiterates).
Uh, madmatt, you're wrong. The UK is England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. Now who is illiterate here?
Posted by: jesusland joe at March 07, 2006 10:09 AM (rUyw4)
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Indeed Sandpiper. Now is a good time.
- Max
Posted by: Max at March 07, 2006 10:10 AM (WM45z)
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Fantastic - why is this considered any shock? Wasn't it obvious for the last 3 years that this was what was going to happen? Come on, people. Iran hates us, doesn't want us to succeed, so they sponsor our enemies in Iraq. 1+1=2. This is what we elect our leaders to plan for. The question is: how will we attack Iran without triggering their retailiation against Iraq, and more importantly, Israel, with our depleted military strength? Do we really want to set up a situation with a enemy country in front of us, and an insurgency behind? That sounds even more like Vietnam. Solutions? I don't have any - except maybe for some special ops teams to foment rebellion in Iran...if they can do it to Iraq, why don't we do it to them? Please don't say something dumb like 'if the Iranians attack, they'll get a lesson on how good the American military is', as it is perfectly clear from Iraq that we can always beat them militarily, but it's the clean-up that we can't do. We just can't afford it, unless we are really willing to raise taxes, or borrow even more from the Chinese.
Posted by: Joe at March 07, 2006 10:21 AM (P1gjy)
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but it's the clean-up that we can't do.
I don't believe the U.S will do an invasion of Iran, In my opinion it will be decapitating air strikes against Military / civilian installations, while getting back behind the border under cover of the Patriot II batteries, and a reinforced border to deter Military incursions from Iran, the U.S has no interest in trying to do a regime change by force, and as for suicide bombers Iran would make Iraq look like amateur hour.
Posted by: cdave at March 07, 2006 11:13 AM (CcXvt)
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Improbulus Maximus has escaped from the asylum again!
Posted by: Evil Progressive at March 07, 2006 12:17 PM (a0KXj)
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Rummy and his best buddy:
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/
Posted by: Evil Progressive at March 07, 2006 12:18 PM (a0KXj)
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Evil Progressive seems to be on the cutting edge of American Foreign policy criticism, I bet
no one has ever seen that picture before, with that material, I'm guessing he's an analyst for the CIA.
Posted by: cdave at March 07, 2006 12:31 PM (CcXvt)
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More cutting edge, in your face pictures ala evil progressive:
http://history.sandiego.edu/cdr2/WW2Pics3/12251.jpg
look Chamberlain is shaking hands with
Hitler
I bet that proves something! or well maybe nothing?
Posted by: cdave at March 07, 2006 12:37 PM (CcXvt)
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Here is Georgie with his Sweetie:
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blbushabdullahhands.htm
Posted by: Evil Progressive at March 07, 2006 12:40 PM (a0KXj)
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Clinton asks Arafat for his hand in marriage:
http://writingcompany.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/clinton_arafat.jpg
Posted by: cdave at March 07, 2006 12:48 PM (CcXvt)
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Dr Videotape Frist and his pets:
http://www.onlisareinsradar.com/archives/000822.php
Posted by: Evil Progressive at March 07, 2006 02:05 PM (a0KXj)
Posted by: Oyster at March 07, 2006 02:54 PM (rf0W8)
Posted by: Oyster at March 07, 2006 02:59 PM (rf0W8)
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The Evil Progressive got out-eviled! Hahahahaaaaaaa! Good show, oyster and cdave!
Posted by: jesusland joe at March 07, 2006 03:34 PM (rUyw4)
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cdave,
Are you saying the US didn't support Saddam after he gassed his own people?
Good guess, but wrong.
Try again.
Posted by: Robert at March 07, 2006 03:49 PM (ByaZN)
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Evil Progressive,
Perhaps, you should go get your nails done, or a sex change, or something. Did you take your meds today?
Posted by: Leatherneck at March 07, 2006 03:55 PM (D2g/j)
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I'm wrong about what idiot?
Post where I said anything that even resembles:
"US didn't support Saddam after he gassed his own people?"
even sarcasm is wasted on you idiots.
Posted by: cdave at March 07, 2006 03:56 PM (CcXvt)
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cdave, look at his email address. 94114 is a San Francisco zip code. That should explain everything.
Posted by: Oyster at March 07, 2006 04:00 PM (rf0W8)
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Oyster,
I have to admit that you are on a roll today. Keep it up!
Posted by: jesusland joe at March 07, 2006 04:38 PM (rUyw4)
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so when we sold arms to Iraq to use on Iran was that an act of war?
Posted by: hibob at March 08, 2006 06:57 PM (vd18u)
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Since when is selling arms to a country or an insurgency an act of war against a third country? When we were supplying arms to the Contras, was that an act of war against Nicaragua? If we sold weapons to the British that they used in the Falklands, were we committing an act of war against Argentina? And before all you wingnuts start telling me what a traitor I am, I'm not saying those were necessarily evil acts. I'm just saying that that kind of weapons dealing goes on all the time. When did it become an act of war?
Posted by: Chris at March 08, 2006 08:10 PM (80Sf7)
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funny. "wingnut" -- the guy above you was your run-of-the-mill "no war for oil" hippy, not by any means a "wingnut"
Posted by: davec at March 09, 2006 01:52 AM (CcXvt)
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Yes, Chris, you fucking moron, selling arms to a party at war is a defacto act of war. Jesus H., you liberals are so stupid that I don't see how you don't die from forgetting to breathe.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at March 09, 2006 06:18 AM (0yYS2)
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improbulus:
So when we sold arms to Iraq it was a de facto act of war. A casus belli if you will. Good to know. With that in mind, what actions would a reasonable Iranian feel are justified against us?
And good job with the ad hominem attacks and character assasination, guys. You have to keep those skills sharp for when you can't defend your statements. If it works for the mullahs, it'll work for you.
Right?
Posted by: hibob at March 09, 2006 10:30 AM (6dhIe)
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