May 31, 2005
Patriots at the NY Times Blow CIA Cover
You really need to read this. As I have been saying all along, journalists put their code of journalistic ethics above love of country. I recently heard an interview with Kevin Sites on NPR in which he discussed how he knew releasing the video of a Marine killing an unarmed and wounded insurgent would lead to more American deaths but that his journalistic code of ethics forced him to do so. No value or principle could ever trump journalistic ethics.
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One of Ace's commenters notes the article on smartland, and I think she nails it; journalistic ethics is jargon to mislead the impressionable - it's about the scoop. The first one with the scoop is the smartest, and they generally get to trade on it for some time to come; in fact they will always be gods to a certain myopic crowd.
Posted by: tee bee at May 31, 2005 06:11 PM (q1JHF)
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The media does not publish every single story they get. In fact I would venture to guess most stories they get are not published.
So to claim that journalistic "integrity" compells them to publish stories that damage our country is pure baloney.
Same goes for koran desecration stories and Abu Graib.
Posted by: Carlos at May 31, 2005 06:28 PM (8e/V4)
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Rinse, repeat and lather again: Don't blame the reporters, blame the fuckers who do stupid shit that gets reported or photographed. Be accountable at all times. Maybe our soldiers should think, "Would I do this if the NYTimes was reporting it?"...nah, scrap that. They already take their own pictures already and email it around the world. Pblththth.
Posted by: osamabeenthere at May 31, 2005 07:14 PM (OXRZJ)
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The only thing stupid the marine in the Sites video did was haul Tokyo Rose AKA Sites around with him on patrol-but I doubt that was his choice. Sites also editied the footage to cast the Marine in the worst possible light and condemn him before the whole world. I think he was particularly vile, a real self absorbed drama king. The Marines and the dead terrorist were mere supporting actors to the real star-Kevin, intrepid boy reporter!
Posted by: Kate at May 31, 2005 07:27 PM (Ii81Q)
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osama,
you're getting innocent people killed to spite a stupid marine. That boils down modern Liberalism, and why you are doomed as a movement.
Posted by: Carlos at May 31, 2005 07:34 PM (8e/V4)
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The only movement I head is the one that breeds honesty, not fear and lies like the the GOP. All y'all can go pork your sister till you have square headed babies...I'm not going to hold your hands while you watch Fox "News" to stay ignorant.
Posted by: osamabeenvotin' at May 31, 2005 07:45 PM (OXRZJ)
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I am not sure how the Government could possibly approach this? Although by my ideals this has gone beyond the Freedom of the Press, to revealing dangerous State secrets -- how could it be prosecuted without the reporters being protected by the constitution?
It is an unfortunate trade, and personally I wish someone would at least challange it.
Posted by: dave at May 31, 2005 07:46 PM (/r9Xb)
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isnt what the NewYorkTimes didan act of treason in a time of war???...they did after all release material that the terrorists could use agaisnt us....i never did like the NYT as its just an elitist stuffy paper for the rich liberals who have never done a real days work....the NYT should be prosecuted as enemies of the state....fuck'em all....nuff said....oh and that freedom of the press crap, they have been pushing that envelope wayyyyyyyyyyyyy too far and have been getting away with it...time to punish these elitist assholes who hide behind and abuse the right of free speach and of the press....there is a limit to how far you can go....nuff said
Posted by: THANOS35 at May 31, 2005 07:49 PM (b7uP2)
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THANOS35, you're a traitor to America. Freedom of speech isn't high on your list, eh? I guess the constitution doesn't ring true with you? Patriot, my ass. Faggot.
Posted by: osamabeenvotin' at May 31, 2005 08:04 PM (OXRZJ)
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So tell us, osamabeenadoofus, how do you feel about the restrictions that FDR put on the press during wartime, and why don't you think these same type rules could be applied today? Or would you rather just show us what an intolerant little prick you are?
Posted by: Defense Guy at May 31, 2005 08:10 PM (lVjfM)
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Thanos,
You're correct, it's high time they realized they certainly have the Freedom of the press to publish the Information, however they also have the responsibility to not endanger the mission, nor American servicemen. There was not one part of that article that needed to specifically mention any details of the C.I.A operations, or the methods they utilize to carry out their mission.
I wish somehow they could be held accountable, it is however unlikely they ever will be.
Posted by: dave at May 31, 2005 08:19 PM (/r9Xb)
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Offence Guy, my stance remains the same. I'm not sucking FDR's cock just because you have a hard-on for it. Don't be a fool and compare FDR's administration to the lying fuckers we have in office right now or you'll be forced to bitch slap yourself with shame...
Posted by: osamabeenvotin' at May 31, 2005 08:20 PM (OXRZJ)
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I love it when stupid people who can't elaborate or back up an arguement end a useless string of brain turd with a "nuff said."
Posted by: Jim at May 31, 2005 09:02 PM (3Esov)
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Osamabinmoron demonstrates a common view of the America-hatin' Left. That their "right" to free speech entitles them to treasonous conduct.
Here's news for them. No court has ever held that the first amendment is so broad. Speech can be criminalized if it meets the elements of a crime. That's why terrorist threats can be criminalized. And that is why Tokyo Rose could be prosecuted.
Oh, and anyone who doesn't realize that the Bush administration on its worse day hasn't lied to the American public one one-hundredth as much as the FDR administration lied to the American public every month of its existance is just completely ignorant of history.
Or a moron.
Posted by: SPQR at May 31, 2005 09:07 PM (xauGB)
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im glad to see that we can at least agree on this dave...yes, i do believe that the press does have the right to print articles on pretty much anything, but when it comes down to something that could expose national secrets and the press knows this, there should be consequences for that....if you go out and sell the design secrets of say the Stealth fighter to the Chinese, you would be considered a traitor....so i think that if the press goes out and prints an article that all the world can see that exposes our agents and national secrets to terrorists they should be labeled as traitors....i mean, how far do you let the press go in pushing the Freedom of the Press and Free Speech???...till ten people get killed???a hundred??....look what Newsweek did and what happened after and they knew how the Muslims would react to that....and osama, you must be one of those liberals who believe in being "peacefull" while calling others who have different views, nasty names hu???...nice.....
Posted by: THANOS35 at May 31, 2005 09:10 PM (b7uP2)
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osamabeensuckinmynuts you need a bullet to the head, nothing more, nothing less. You piece of shit little cocksucking traitor, you'd better pray we never meet. Don't make me get serious about finding where you live. Don't. Fucking. Do. It.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at May 31, 2005 10:07 PM (0yYS2)
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"I recently heard an interview with Kevin Sites on NPR in which he discussed how he knew releasing the video of a Marine killing an unarmed and wounded insurgent would lead to more American deaths but that his journalistic code of ethics forced him to do so"
I don't understand why its such a problem to release a video of a soldier doing nothing wrong.
Posted by: actus at June 01, 2005 12:02 AM (Ygl+x)
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I don't understand why its such a problem to release a video of a soldier doing nothing wrong.
actus,
I simply don't understand what is to be gained by releasing video of a marine even if he did do something wrong.
All it does is make money for the media conglomerates that you Lefties hate so much, and get people killed. I know you don't mind the dead people part, but scooping stories to cynically enrich the media conglomerates should piss you off a little, no?
Seriously, the media picks and chooses all day long what stories to run. Is it censorship when the other stories aren't printed? It's such transparent crap, you can't possibly expect us to take it seriously. We see it for what it is-- using the press as an instrument of Liberal/Democrat foreign policy. Journalists are getting people killed unnecessarily.
Posted by: Carlos at June 01, 2005 01:16 AM (8e/V4)
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Hmm. Are Journalists traitors? In this case, and the case with the Koran, most likely. Do they care? Most likely not. For them, the only fealty they owe is to the dollar, ruble, yen, drachma, or whatever currency buys their paper.
Should they be tried for treason? Most likely yes. Why? Because they publish things that will get our people killed, and why? Again, so they can sell papers.
Posted by: Joe Wiess at June 01, 2005 04:52 AM (LtbPK)
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Enlist Chickenhawks
Posted by: Max at June 01, 2005 07:34 AM (HFKAk)
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I strongly disagree with Site's decision, but as I stated in another post, because we are are under the world's magnifying glass, our soldiers need to be careful and not do anything that will lead to criticism, real or concocted. It will only help us in the long run.
I think any sane person would agree with this.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at June 01, 2005 08:02 AM (x+5JB)
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I agree YBP, but never at the risk of their lives.
Posted by: Defense Guy at June 01, 2005 08:20 AM (lVjfM)
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Agreed.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at June 01, 2005 08:32 AM (x+5JB)
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I agree with Young Burbon Professional. It's the media's duty to report fact, though most distort it. Accountability is the only way to stop this crap...if soldiers know they are putting other soldiers in harm's way by doing stupid shit, then they are probably less likely to do stupid shit...or at least in front of a international reporter. Remember, Sites rolls with these guys often...they don't have to bring him along.
"osamabeensuckinmynuts you need a bullet to the head, nothing more, nothing less. You piece of shit little cocksucking traitor, you'd better pray we never meet. Don't make me get serious about finding where you live. Don't. Fucking. Do. It."
Bring it on you little pussy. You're the one who needs to be praying. I'll waste your fucking ass if you so much as get within 100 yards of my place, though you'll never find me. You obviously have no idea who you are fucking with. I can tell if anyone is trying to locate me and there's no way you could get through all my bounced relays to my original IP address. You're obviously a anti-American traitor hypocrite because you can't even handle my ideas which don't agree with your own. If you're going to be a mental midget and threaten me, you better be ready to experience real pain. Keep your threats to yourself before I disgrace you further.
Posted by: osamabeenthere at June 01, 2005 08:47 AM (OXRZJ)
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I think that threatening others with bodily harm because they disagree with that person's ideas is shameful and un-American. Convince people through ideas.
Using ugly threats and brute force seldom works--ask the Nazi and Communist regimes.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at June 01, 2005 08:52 AM (x+5JB)
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"I don't understand why its such a problem to release a video of a soldier doing nothing wrong."
Actus: It's a problem because it was edited for general consumption in order to elicit a certain response. This is bad because when the "full" tape is used to determine the guilt or innocence of the soldier, and the soldier is in fact cleared as a result, all the public has seen is what makes him look guilty and they get all worked up in a lather over it. It's just wrong.
Posted by: Oyster at June 01, 2005 09:01 AM (fl6E1)
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YBP, thanks for the voice of sanity. I agree with Oyster about the editing...it's hard to understand context if only given a snippet. Prime example being the Rodney King riots.
Posted by: osamabeenthere at June 01, 2005 09:09 AM (OXRZJ)
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Or the beating of King, too.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at June 01, 2005 09:20 AM (x+5JB)
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YBP, that's what I mean...the whole thing was just sound bites from the beating to the riots.
Posted by: osamabeenthere at June 01, 2005 09:24 AM (OXRZJ)
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Very good discussion thread.
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at June 01, 2005 09:38 AM (JQjhA)
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It is only a matter of time before the people turn on the press and horsewhip editors through the village square.
I for one would love to see the editors at the NYTimes beaten in the streets.
Posted by: Filthy Allah at June 01, 2005 09:48 AM (yBHNA)
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Filthy, don't zero in on just one...almost all the big networks/publications are guilty of being shitty reporters of the facts.
Posted by: osamabeenthere at June 01, 2005 09:53 AM (OXRZJ)
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My bad. Hold the press accountable. Hang em from lamp posts. Politicians too.
Posted by: Filthy Allah at June 01, 2005 09:55 AM (yBHNA)
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Now we're getting somewhere!
Posted by: osamabeenthere at June 01, 2005 09:56 AM (OXRZJ)
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The Rodney King issue is an excellent example.
Posted by: Oyster at June 01, 2005 10:01 AM (fl6E1)
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Well, there were tons of people who thought they were just being racist and beating the hell out of a innocent guy and he turned out to have been smoking PCP laced weed and coming at them. If you don't know already, on enough PCP one can break a leg and run on it. No wonder the cops were freaking out! I tried to contain a hostile guy on LSD and PCP at a party once and he didn't feel pain...I ended up getting him in a full nelson that if I had applied harder would have broken his neck...but he was still tossing me around and he was half my size. When the cops came he lunged at them and they nightsticked his front teeth in...the guy spit them out and started laughing. That guy ended up at the loony bin that night and had no memory of the incident...which is good since he didn't know I was responsible for some of his stitches! Either way, long story. PCP is some crazy shit, and I'm not saying those cops are saints, but I'd beat the fuck out of anyone on PCP if they didn't chill in the situation those cops were in.
Posted by: osamabeenthere at June 01, 2005 10:29 AM (OXRZJ)
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"I tried to contain a hostile guy on LSD and PCP at a party once and he didn't feel pain...I ended up getting him in a full nelson that if I had applied harder would have broken his neck...but he was still tossing me around and he was half my size. When the cops came he lunged at them and they nightsticked his front teeth in...the guy spit them out and started laughing."
And yet, Bush now has excellent teeth.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at June 01, 2005 10:36 AM (x+5JB)
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Hahaha...Man, I've heard Bush was quite a party animal...coke, weed, booze, you name it. As long as nobody gets hurt or is an addict, I don't care what other people do. I just think it sucks when they lie about it: (insert any politician's name here)
Posted by: osamabeenthere at June 01, 2005 10:55 AM (OXRZJ)
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Rodney got Knocked the F- Out! That was Brilliant!!!! Whack whack whack whack POW POW Zaaaaaaaap!
Anyone read about those Chimps that mauled that old guy a couple months back? Bit all his fingers, toes off, chewed his ears, nose, ass cheeks off?
Now that would be a fitting punishment for the editors of the Times. Mauled by Chimps. I love it.
Posted by: Filthy Allah at June 01, 2005 10:57 AM (yBHNA)
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Adding to that: Bush doesn't have to worry about drugs or booze now, it's those darned POTUS pretzels!
Posted by: osamabeenvotin' at June 01, 2005 10:57 AM (OXRZJ)
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osama, you are the typical chickenshit internet troll who only posts to incite. Don't worry, your day will come you little coward, and someone will stand over you and watch you inhale blood instead of air through your open throat. The irony is it will probably be a Muslim who does you, right after he makes you lick his balls. I want to watch. Don't bother with the kiddie hacker lies about bouncing your signal through proxies, you don't know how to do that, you're just a stupid kid, I can tell by the way you write. I hope you die soon and in great pain, and I hope to be there to watch.
As for YBP,
"I think that threatening others with bodily harm because they disagree with that person's ideas is shameful and un-American. Convince people through ideas."
Disagreeing with ideas is one thing, treason to the nation is another. Go bury your head in the pillow if you can't see the difference, maybe they won't come for you.
"Using ugly threats and brute force seldom works--ask the Nazi and Communist regimes."
Sure brute force works, just ask the dead, though it's best applied to traitors, cowards, and those who support the murder of innocent people. This idiot osama openly supports the terrorists. Are you so fucking stupid as to not be able to see that? Is it withing his First Amendment rights to support the killing of American soldiers and innocent people? No. You are an idiot for standing up for him.
Posted by Young Bourbon Professional at June 1, 2005 08:52 AM
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at June 01, 2005 10:59 AM (0yYS2)
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Let's see, who do i think should get the Chimp treatment?
Hillary and Bill Clinton, Pelosi, Kennedy, Reid, McCain, Alan Combs, Katie Couric, Britney Spears, Screech from Saved by the bell, Greg, John Kerry, Howie Dean.....
All should be ass raped by wild chimps. I mean, Mauled by chimps.
Posted by: Filthy Allah at June 01, 2005 11:00 AM (yBHNA)
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Brevity is the essence of wit, improbulus. Note how short, sweet and civilized YBP is. Take notes.
Posted by: Howie at June 01, 2005 11:09 AM (D3+20)
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Minimus Phallus, I'm a coward? Very wrong you are. Sorry, but I won't oblige your snuff & gay porn fantasy. I find it absolutely hilarious that you claim I support terrorists because I support the constitution of our great country. You just want to be a fucking tyrant, and that's why nobody is supporting you in this thread. Don't diss YBP because he isn't a dumb-ass fear monger like yourself. Kiddie hacker lies, huh? What, so you found me? You better start booking lots of flights, faggot. They are all dead ends for you...
Posted by: osamabincite at June 01, 2005 11:11 AM (OXRZJ)
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"All should be ass raped by wild chimps. I mean, Mauled by chimps."
Oh my god...I actually laughed out loud when I read that. Hahaha.
Posted by: osamabincite at June 01, 2005 11:27 AM (OXRZJ)
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A threat of a good ol' fashioned Chimp Ass Raping would keep the Press in line me thinks!
Posted by: Filthy Allah at June 01, 2005 11:36 AM (yBHNA)
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You know...Bush really looks like a chimp sometimes. I shit you not. I bet he could arrange a thing or two. ooo! ooo! aah! ahh!
Posted by: osamabincite at June 01, 2005 11:39 AM (OXRZJ)
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Bush rules. I love W.
Bush is giving the degenerate liberal traitor scumbags the ol' hairy chimp stick.
Posted by: Filthy Allah at June 01, 2005 11:44 AM (yBHNA)
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Filthy...I've never been a Bush fan, but I'd PAY to see him jump down from a tree and give our media some chimp lovin'...
Posted by: osamabincite at June 01, 2005 12:03 PM (OXRZJ)
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I would pay to see W jump out of a tree and sod-O-mize a reporter.
Posted by: filthy allah at June 01, 2005 12:06 PM (yBHNA)
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Better to back a chimp than Frankenstein's Monster.
IM: Yes, I've long suspected that I am indeed an idiot for thinking that threatening people with bodily harm for their ideas is wrong. Perhaps it's too idealistic to think such a thing these days. But I'd like to think that you wouldn't really want to see Osama (not the real one) have his throat slit by a terrorist, and that, were it actually going to happen, you would even help the guy.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at June 01, 2005 12:08 PM (x+5JB)
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YBP, I know this...I'd save his ass if he was about to be iced by anyone. I can't say the same for him though!
Posted by: osamabincite at June 01, 2005 12:17 PM (OXRZJ)
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Either way, his threats ring pretty hollow to me. He can talk all the shit he wants. I know the score...
Posted by: osamabeenvotin' at June 01, 2005 12:19 PM (OXRZJ)
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Would you rather see Osama get his throat slit, or would you rather watch him get sexually violated by a wild chimp?
I vote for the chimp. I would like to see Osama get Chimped.
Posted by: Filthy Allah at June 01, 2005 12:39 PM (yBHNA)
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Filthy: Which Osama?
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at June 01, 2005 12:48 PM (x+5JB)
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Anyone named Osama should get bottom knocked by a large, hairy chimp.
Posted by: Filthy Allah at June 01, 2005 12:51 PM (yBHNA)
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Funny, this osamabeenvotin fella sounds just like Greg.
Posted by: filthy allah at June 01, 2005 12:55 PM (yBHNA)
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Well, good thing this is only a pen name then. I don't want to get chimped!
http://www.compfused.com/directlink/782/
Posted by: osamabinpostin' at June 01, 2005 12:57 PM (OXRZJ)
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Filthy: I think that for the real Osama, the P.B.C. (punshment by chimp) might be the way to go.
I know for a fact that Osamabeenvotin is in fact Soupy Sales.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at June 01, 2005 12:59 PM (x+5JB)
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To wish a "Chimping" on a human being is wishing a fate worse than death on someone.
Chimps are not gentle lovers.
Posted by: filthy allah at June 01, 2005 01:02 PM (yBHNA)
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It might seem worse then death at the time for Osama, but after a cigarette or two in the morning, who knows???
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at June 01, 2005 01:12 PM (x+5JB)
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YBP, trust me that any name in here I use starts with a 'osama'...but who is Soupy Sales? Someone from another blog? It ain't me! I'm sure a few in here have had the pleasure of taking off the beer goggles to find a chimp in the morning...hehe.
Posted by: osamabinpostin' at June 01, 2005 01:25 PM (OXRZJ)
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I'd also bet money that Minimus Phallus is a product of Chimping...I swear I can hear him beating his...uh...chest from here!
Posted by: osamabeenvotin' at June 01, 2005 01:28 PM (OXRZJ)
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Osama: I was kidding, and perhaps showing my age! Soupy Sales was/is that zany comedian from the 50's and 60's (on the quiz show "What's My Line?").
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at June 01, 2005 01:28 PM (x+5JB)
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Osama (ominously): "You have been warned..."
http://www.tvparty.com/soupy.html
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at June 01, 2005 01:31 PM (x+5JB)
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Shit, I don't know what's worse...not watching TV or missing out on popular culture. Something tells me I'm not missing much though...but that one is indeed before my time. Don't worry, you're not a walking fossil yet!
Posted by: osamabeenthere at June 01, 2005 01:32 PM (OXRZJ)
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osamabeenthere: "...not watching TV or missing out on popular culture."
You're implying that Soupy was popular.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at June 01, 2005 01:36 PM (x+5JB)
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A perfect punishment for Saddam: 48 hours in a room with Soupy Sales.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at June 01, 2005 01:38 PM (x+5JB)
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Yeah, I don't think chimping would work on Saddam...he might like it.
Posted by: osamabeenthere at June 01, 2005 01:42 PM (OXRZJ)
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And would we want to do that to a chimp?
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at June 01, 2005 01:43 PM (x+5JB)
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YBP “I think that threatening others with bodily harm because they disagree with that person's ideas is shameful and un-American. Convince people through ideas. “
Agreed 100%, but retaliation is a different issue. (I guess that is why YBP is a better debater then me.)
As far as free press, I believe the press should have full rights to record and report any thing they want. But I believe in times of war, the Government has the right to determine when it is publish. (Remember I said during war, once it is over, free game again.) Now this does not include state secrets. As for the soldier in the tape, I think Osama has the right idea, if our troops are stupid enough to bring a reporter with them and they do stupid stuff, donÂ’t blame the media. I felt, after looking at the tape, that there was enough doubt about his conduct, that the military should investigate, they did, he was found innocent, end of discussion.
As for Osama’s comment “As long as nobody gets hurt or is an addict, I don't care what other people do.” The problem is other people do get hurt. I once thought this way, but when I was station in Albany, GA, the coast guard was getting short handed, and the commanders of the base was talking about loaning us Marines out to help police the seaways. My base was not chosen, but another was and we did hear of one marine who was shot but drug dealers. So even though, Joe Blow is not hurting anyone, Cartel Carl is trying to get the stuff to Joe Blow.
Just my 2 cents worth.
Posted by: Butch at June 01, 2005 03:57 PM (Gqhi9)
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Should be "shot by drug dealers" not shot but drug dealers"
Posted by: Butch at June 01, 2005 04:05 PM (Gqhi9)
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Butch...that really sucks. It seems backwards to me that alcohol is legal and weed isn't. I've seen far worse conduct and side effects from weed, and I doubt anyone could say that stoners are always getting in fights and though they might ramble, they barely talk as much shit as a drunk. The thing is, if someone wants drugs, they will get them one way or another. I think it would make more sense to make these things legal to take the dangerous element out of the equation & also return huge profits which are very taxable. California's #1 cash crop ain't avocados, ya know... I prefer to have a few drinks on weekends and that's pretty much it. Anything else is just too distracting for me!
Posted by: osamabeenthere at June 01, 2005 06:29 PM (OXRZJ)
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Osama,
I do kind of agree with the alcohol/mary jane effects.
What I always thought was stupid was that Alcohol kills more
people on the highways then the lack of seat belts, but until
the last couple of years, seat belts were the major no no of the
highways. DUI were just slaps on the wrist. As for the legalizing
drugs, I am not against that either. The point I was trying to make
is just because someone lights up at home, does not mean the grass
he is smoking is bloodless.
Posted by: Butch at June 02, 2005 08:32 AM (Gqhi9)
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"Would I do this if the NYTimes was reporting it?"...nah, scrap that.
If you think holding soldiers directly accountable to civilian courts and institutions is a good idea you might consider reading this article by John Keegan who actually knows something about the topic. Or check out Austin Bay.
The bottom line is that even though such civilian authority relieves us of a certain sense of complicity in the messiness and evil of war it isn't a good idea to subject soldiers to judgments made after the fact by people who know nothing of combat. In fact, it hardly counts as "justice" at all.
Posted by: Demosophist at June 02, 2005 10:27 AM (d0CtA)
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Butch, Yeah...I hear ya. I bet hard drugs have a lot more blood on them that any domestic weed though. There is a difference. Personally, I hate dealing with anyone under the influence of crack, coke, heroin...even alcohol if they are a bad drunk...but I can't say I've hard a hard time dealing with a stoner.
Posted by: osamabeenthere at June 02, 2005 11:15 AM (OXRZJ)
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Hey IM, any luck finding out where that osama guy lives? Show us your 1337 hacker skillz. Come. On. Show. Us. Wow. One. Word. Sentences. Are. Cool.
Fucking idiots.
Posted by: Jim at June 02, 2005 09:50 PM (FzCFs)
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Jim...
No word from IM since he threatened to pay a visit. Maybe he's on his way to the address of the first server I control remote? It would be a waste of time/money for him if he really thinks that the first IP that he discovers is the best way of tracking a professional digerati. He'd also be silly to think that he's the only one in here who owns a gun and has military service under his belt. The notion that anyone could get away with going after someone after posting intent all over a server is absurd. His location would be revealed easily in any investigation if I was harmed in any way.
Funny thing is: I bet our views aren't too different...but he gets extremely pissed when I don't agree with him. Maybe he doesn't like my sense of humor? Maybe he thinks I represent all that he hates? Too bad either way...it isn't good for your health to get so worked up. Words on a screen shouldn't contribute to your heart attack! His passion could probably be channeled into more positive motivations.
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