Words have meaning. If Gitmo=gulag then anything less than armed rebellion against the United States government would be immoral.
On the other hand, there are those on the Left, like Noam Chomsky, who actually believe their own inflated rhetoric. This is why I have been predicting for some time that Bush would be assasinated. Because if only half of what the Left says about Bush were true, he would deserve it.
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Come on, KKKarl Rove made him say that in order to justify some loss of some civil liberty or something.
Ah, the mythos of KKKarl... the lynchpin to every leftist tautology going.
Posted by: Wine-aholic at June 24, 2005 11:01 AM (Wsn+K)
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There is failed logic in this belief that Bush could possibly lead to fascism. The same people who call him an extreme right-wing chimp compare him to Hitler. The problem of course is that Fascism is a left-wing ideology.
Posted by: Chad Evans at June 24, 2005 11:26 AM (dZcXJ)
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If I were motivated by a desire to hurt the troops, I'd underfund the Department of Veterans Affairs.
Senate Republicans voted against budget increases for Vets three times this year.
suck on it chickenhawks
Posted by: Max at June 24, 2005 11:32 AM (HFKAk)
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Max, veterans are not troops. They are ex-troops. Poor logic.
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at June 24, 2005 11:44 AM (JQjhA)
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So are you saying you only support the troops that are on active duty? Are you saying that once they are Vets we have no responsibility for them? You are disgusting.
What is your logical response to the fact that the GOP is turning its back on the vets?
Posted by: Max at June 24, 2005 12:00 PM (HFKAk)
Posted by: Max at June 24, 2005 12:13 PM (HFKAk)
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No, I'm saying it is stupid and illogical to say not giving Veterans more Pell grants is not supporting the troops.
Greg, you moonbat. I'm taking that idiotic conspiritorial vitriol down.
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at June 24, 2005 12:18 PM (JQjhA)
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I think the answer is #2, Rusty. We've all seen the way that the Secret Service investigates all threats to the President — any President — no matter how seemingly facetious. I don't know if I'd go so far as to think that there are daily attempts to harm the President, but I'm certain the detail stays busy.
Posted by: Jeff Harrell at June 24, 2005 12:23 PM (KZlQC)
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Obfuscating and weak Rusty.
You can do better.
Posted by: Max at June 24, 2005 12:45 PM (HFKAk)
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No, you said, "Senate Republicans voted against budget increases for Vets three times this year." Which is a stupid way to make a point about supporting the troops.
One can support the troops and not think the VA should pay for Vi*gra for Vietnam vets.
However, it seems to me that you cannot support the troop and at the same time not support what the troops are doing. If you 'care about them' but only in equal measure to how you care about other human beings, then what you really mean to say is that you 'support humanity', not the troops.
This makes you a humanist, but not a patriot.
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at June 24, 2005 12:58 PM (JQjhA)
Posted by: Anachronda at June 24, 2005 01:03 PM (IrbU4)
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A lot of books say a lot of things....most of them stupid things.
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at June 24, 2005 01:09 PM (JQjhA)
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If Bush = Hitler, then Saddam is FDR.
Doh!
Posted by: AJStrata at June 24, 2005 01:23 PM (67DAA)
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Pass the comment on to the USSS, Dr. S. Lefties have to learn that there are consequences to their insane rhetoric.
Posted by: William Teach at June 24, 2005 01:32 PM (cuTsc)
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Here's what I don't understand about the left and their screams of the Bush admin bestowing "too much power to the government", "too much of our lives controlled by the government", yet ... they can't wait to hand their retirement and their health care decisions over to none other than who? The government. It's mind boggling.
Posted by: Oyster at June 24, 2005 01:33 PM (fl6E1)
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Rusty:'Greg, you moonbat. I'm taking that idiotic conspiritorial vitriol down.'
Rusty,
What I posted was 100% true. It is an indisputable fact. There are court records confirming that Union Bank was guilty of trading with the enemy.
It has even been reported in the MSM.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1312540,00.html
I'm sorry if this offends you.
Posted by: greg at June 24, 2005 01:51 PM (/+dAV)
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Rusty,
If it makes you feel bettter, Al Gore married into the Harriman family.
Posted by: greg at June 24, 2005 01:58 PM (/+dAV)
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Former Asst. Sec. Of Treasury Under Reagan Doubts Official 9/11 Story
Claims Neo Con Agenda Is As 'Insane As Hitler And Nazi Party When They Invaded Russia In Dead Of Winter'
Greg Szymanski | June 24, 2005
A former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury under President Reagan stepped back into the political spotlight this week, expressing doubt about the official 9/11 story and claiming "if they lied to us about Ruby Ridge, Waco and weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, why should we believe them now."
http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/former_reagan_asst_sec_treasury_doubts_official_story.htm
Gosh! Golly! What a kook! HeÂ’s taken a cue from Morgan Reynolds. Who would believe such a horrible thing? Where is this manÂ’s tin foil hat? I demand to know!
Posted by: greg at June 24, 2005 02:46 PM (/+dAV)
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Something is bothering the FBI
By Ze'ev Schiff
“It is a mistake to think the FBI has concluded its investigations after indictments were served against Pentagon employee Lawrence Franklin for leaking classified security material to people close to Israel. Franklin, an intelligence investigator and an expert on Iran, has been linked to Naor Gilon, a diplomat at the Israeli embassy, and to two senior officials in the pro-Israel lobby AIPAC (American Israel Public Affairs Committee). Apparently the FBI investigations have widened, and are now focusing on another Pentagon official and his connections.”
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/591644.html
The Israeli MSM talks about what the US MSM refuses to discuss. Namely, the on going Israeli/AIPAC spy investigation.
Just look at who AIPAC bribes every year.
http://www.wrmea.com/archives/July_Aug_2004/0407027.html
IÂ’ll bet all three of your congress critters are on the list.
Posted by: greg at June 24, 2005 03:01 PM (/+dAV)
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Greg,
Who was these unknown people that "lied to us"
Waco, and Ruby Ridge happened in Clintons term I believe? and who shouldn't we believe?
Posted by: dave at June 24, 2005 04:07 PM (fsJ2z)
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"No, you said, "Senate Republicans voted against budget increases for Vets three times this year." Which is a stupid way to make a point about supporting the troops."
I was making a point about how the GOP does not support the troops, just uses them for political gain then turns their backs on them. Cannot really get a better metric on their intentions than their votes.
"One can support the troops and not think the VA should pay for Vi*gra for Vietnam vets."
Non seq.
"However, it seems to me that you cannot support the troop and at the same time not support what the troops are doing. If you 'care about them' but only in equal measure to how you care about other human beings, then what you really mean to say is that you 'support humanity', not the troops."
Wow, you really cannot have such a simplistic view. Must make it hard when a loved one does something you disagree with. Guess you cannot love them anymore. So, I would argue that one can indeed support the troops while at the same time finding their mission inappropriate. Again, you seem to be showing some very odd feelings about the troops. The "not" should read "as well" unless you feel that the troops are outside the realm of humanity.
Many people support the troops while disagreeing with the admin's use of said troops. And those people are growing in number daily.
Have a great weekend and enjoy the vacation.
Posted by: Max at June 24, 2005 04:35 PM (HFKAk)
Posted by: deccles at June 24, 2005 06:05 PM (UCtX/)
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Haven't heard any of the vets I know crying. Actually the other way around. They usually brag concerning the care they get at veternans hospitals. I'm a vet (Vietnam era) and believe me I served with a weapon in my hand 24 hrs a day. My wife will be a white collar vet in 6 days. Both of us are proud of the medical care we receive.
Perhaps veterans issues should be handled by vets and not publicity seeks liberals who never served. I do go to VFW meetings for a few beers and talk to fellow vets. I never hear anything but pro America and how proud they were to have served there country.
Perhaps Greg and Max would care to attend one of our meetings and see how well they are received. I'll print out some of their shit and make copies for the boys. Hell, I'll even buy the beer and the rope.
Posted by: greyrooster at June 24, 2005 06:17 PM (CBNGy)
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Vets should be given carte blanche as far as medical benefits. This is the least the USA can do for people who put their lives on the line. We can afford if if we start getting our priorities straight with tax money (i.e., cut welfare for all except those who TRULY need it).
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at June 25, 2005 08:07 AM (4D+6l)
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Dave:'Greg,Who was these unknown people that "lied to us"
Waco, and Ruby Ridge happened in Clintons term I believe? and who shouldn't we believe?'
Dave,
Who were these people? People from the Clinton and Bush administrations. You should be skeptical of all politicians. Stop being a partisan hack. Let's face it, both parties are lying and driving us into the ground. The two party system gives you the illusion of having a choice. In fact both parties strip you of your rights and spend your money like there is no tomorrow.
Posted by: greg at June 25, 2005 08:14 AM (/+dAV)
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I am a 'partisan hack' for questioning whom your article refers to?
it sounded like a typical conspiracy theory, with the "they" and "them" reference, with no identified individuals - the hallmark of most conspiracy theories.
I agree about the two party system, and politicians in general. When the government was formed in the United States it was formed around politicians who served the people for a set period of time, and after that period they went back into the private sector. It was not setup that a politician was voted in, and then spent the next 30 years hanging around washington in some form or other.
The former method kept fresh ideas, and fresh approaches to issues, the latter gives us the "stale" same solution to the old problem. Take Cuba, here we are many years later with no official ties, and continually talking smack about them. You'd almost think they still had Russian missiles pointed at the United States.
Posted by: dave at June 25, 2005 12:11 PM (fsJ2z)
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Bush=Hitler and Bushs killer is a hero? Ok, I'll kill him next 29. of February.
Posted by: A Finn at June 25, 2005 12:45 PM (lGolT)
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Finn,
Watch your mealie mouth, young lad. Bushie may be a simian fool like Rooster, but he should get a new job as an oil worker and leave the friggin' world alone.
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at June 25, 2005 11:00 PM (ScqM8)
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