1 Whoa... I was JUST about to suggest it was time... and I thought I needed some practice with this telepathy, but it looks like I'm in good shape.

2 I disagree Rusty, the Klan had cleaner mouths.

3 Bye Bye greg. But really he was the one that gets everyone all riled up and posting. Some days I thought he had to be a machine he was so "always there". He rarely posted an opinion he wasn't willing to back up with facts. He is foul mouthed though. It's your site Rusty do as you must.

4 Greg needs to seek professional help. He is so convinced that his worldview is correct that he has thrown all logic and reason out the window. Plus he is a raging jew hater, and that is never a good thing.

5 The thing is I didn't want to ban Greg. I enjoyed all the inflammatory discussion he started. But when he begins to say the FBI was somehow involved in 9/11 he has crossed a line into an anti-American paranoia which I will not tolerate.

6 The thing about Greg that should be understood is that there is nothing unique or special about him to distinguish him from the typical liberal. They are generally certified, foaming-at-the-mouth moonbats, and he is hardly on the fringe. Of course he will go to DU or some other such haven of moonbattery and claim he was banned for dissenting, but liberals are such idiots they don't know dissention from treason.

7 Later....................Freak! M.W.

8 maybe greg is really a Muslims???...has anyone though of that...the short time ive been here all ive seen posted from him are cospiracy theories and such far out liberal crap that i would either laugh at him or curse him till the air turned blue....i mean, its good to have someone with an opposing view so you can try to bring them around to reason and the facts but when someone gets either personal or goes on like he did with anti-Jewish tirades, its time to teach them a lesson to act civil...too bad we just couldnt send the Muslim world to its room so it would learn to behave....sigh, oh well, a guy can dream...nuff said

9 I prefer ignoring those guys...whatever happened to that Colin Baber guy? and what about your professor buddy, peter van nostradamus?

10 You know, I'm glad to hear it. I always roll my eyes when I see his email address in my inbox indicating yet another mooronic diatribe from Greg...the thing I love about blogging over here is that there are so many readers. People slap the trolls down so quickly I almost never need to defend myself. ;-)

11 Hahahahahahaha...Rusty, you tellin' me you can't handle the mere typed words of Greg?! I mean really...you have all the right in the world to ban anyone from your blog, but he is just as the small yin to your collective yang. Oh yeah, and don't count my bro Collin (colon babler) out...he is still alive and well, lurking in your worst nightmares!

12 Rusty, you're a lot more tolerant than most of these Leftists are. But I still wouldn't have banned him. I'm all in favor of letting Leftists and lunatics like greg out themselves so that regular folks know just how lunatic are. Folks need to hear it from the horse's mouth, because don't believe me. They think I'm just being hysterical when I try to tell them what these moonbats are all about.

13 Beth, Greg spews far less bullshit than the collective in here. That bullshit is of course, depends on anyone's point of view. If this is a blog that truely supports Democracy and American values, everyone should be allowed to speak...no matter what they say.

14 there is also something called morals and commonsense, osama....while, yea, there isnt really anything that you cant say in the US, but there is a point where most people think, i have the right to not listen to this persons hate filled or nasty personal language...its called being/acting civilized....so in away, you really cant say anything you want....i just cant go down to the corner and yell and scream that im gonna go out and kill blacks or kill jews or spew hate about them or say stuff about someones parents or wife, id be arrested , so if greg comes in here and spouts off his mouth and contributes nothing to the room but just disturbs and aggravates, its Rustys right to ban him or not...hey, at least Rusty doesnt have the power to send a powersurge threw gregs pc and juice his ass good.....nuff said

15 If this is a blog that truely supports Democracy and American values, everyone should be allowed to speak...no matter what they say. I'm sorry, you seem to be confused. You have the right to speak your opinion. Rusty can't stop that. He doesn't have to provide you with the means to voice your opinion to a broader audience. This is his space. You want an unrestricted platform for your speech? There are hosting services aplenty. This ain't one of 'em.

16 You should also either ban osamathecocksucker or give me his IP addy so I can hunt him down and... take him out to lunch, yeah, that's it, lunch.

17 Dangit. Whose comments am I going to take seriously from now on if greg's gone? Osamas?

18 Oh yeah, osamabeenvotin': "...but he is just as the small yin to your collective yang" I think you didn't know what you were saying here... Yang, in tao, is everything considered good, masculine, healthy and the yin is the bad, feminine, harmful. So you were kind of saying greg was a pussy fighting against what's right...

19 I'm gonna miss him....*sniff*

20 I shall miss Greg. His comments usually got those who disagreed with his comments to strengthen their own views via argument.

21 Plus, all of his views were NOT "Left wing."

22 Yeah, he was a heterosexual, so I guess he wasn't "all the way Left." Anyway, Greg is welcome to read the blog, but I warn all readers to not spout any theories that blame America for 9/11. I myself have had doubts about the Iraq war. I think being against the war because you do not think it is in America's national interests is a legitimate viewpoint, and most of me thinks it's wrong, some quarter of my sould has sympathy for this viewpoint. However, those that question America's MOTIVATION or who BLAME America for terrorist acts will find no comfort or quarter from me.

23 "I'm sorry, you seem to be confused. You have the right to speak your opinion. Rusty can't stop that. He doesn't have to provide you with the means to voice your opinion to a broader audience. This is his space. You want an unrestricted platform for your speech? There are hosting services aplenty. This ain't one of 'em." Let me clear up some confusion: If Rusty wants to ban Greg, I can't blame him. I never said this wasn't Rusty's space. He can ban anyone he wants! I just didn't think Greg was bad enough to get dissed...and what's exciting about always talking with people who agree with you? This is only my opinion. Now if I was to ban someone, it would be Minimus Phallus...only on the grounds that he can't handle anything beyond his playground bully mentality. "You should also either ban osamathecocksucker or give me his IP addy so I can hunt him down and... take him out to lunch, yeah, that's it, lunch." Like I've said in other threads: My IP is a dead end since I relay through other servers. (Though if Rusty banned me, I'd respect it and split without re-routing) Minimus, you really don't have any idea who you are fucking with. You can talk all the shit you want, but if you get hostile with me, you'll regret it for the rest of your life.

24 Everyone hates a bully. Even the guys who pretend to be his friends.

25 I disagree with Libs and think they're wrong, but I don't consider them lunatics. But greg and the conspiracy theorists are most definitely lunatics. Don't get me wrong, It's nothing personal against them. Greg was fine, but he was a loon. So I do understand Rusty's point of not wanting to dignify that lunacy on his blog. But aside from that, greg wasn't so bad. He'd match you point for point, or insult for insult, depending on how you talked to him.

26 Good Riddence to bad Rubbish. Greg was a dick. Fuck em.

27 Do I smell a chimp?

28 The US Government and the US Mainstream media have not reacted with anything that looks like outrage or even just surprise at the contents of the leaked Downing Street memo. Hence, you have known all along that the claims about Iraq's WMDs were lies manufactured to trick YOU into sending our sons and daughters into harm's way. The Constitution does not explicitly authorize the government to lie to the people. The Tenth Amendment prohibits the government from arrogating that right to itself. Therefore, when the government lies, it acts unconstitutionally and illegally. It exceeds its lawful authority and delegitimizes itself. At the moment the government lies to the people, it ceases to be the legal government of this land..... Stand up man. It is so obvious that 9-11 was an inside job... I see conclusively that a number of public officials, at the national and New York City levels, including then-Mayor Rudolph Giuliani, were aware that flight 175 was en route to lower Manhattan for 20 minutes and did nothing to order the evacuation of, or warn the occupants of the South Tower. One military officer was forced to leave his post in the middle of the attacks and place a private call to his brother - who worked at the WTC - warning him to get out. That was because no other part of the system was taking action. You can also prove the "Israeli and British governments acted as partners with the highest levels of the American government to help in the preparation and, very possibly, the actual execution of the attacks." When so many leaders are part of the Israel oath and Carlyle type Bush Sr.) weapons manufacturers, how can you stand by and watch Idaho farmers and mothers loose the children of Idaho? Who is making millions? The PNAC - Project for a New American Century: Elliott Abrams,Gary Bauer, Eliot A. Cohen, Midge Decter, Paula Dobriansky, Steve Forbes, Aaron Friedberg, Francis Fukuyama, Frank Gaffney, Fred C.Ikle, Donald Kagan, Zalmay Khalilzad, I. Lewis Libby, Norman Podhoretz, Dan Quayle, Peter W. Rodman, Stephen P. Rosen, Henry S. Rowen, Donald Rumsfeld, Vin Weber, George Weigel, Paul Wolfowitz) that is who.. They needed a "New Pearl Harbor" to convince you all to go to war and fund the military take over. Bush even went as far as to say that 9-11 was the "New Pearl Harbor". Thus begins "The Theatre Wars". Look here, http://www.newamericancentury.org. I hope you have studied the PNAC. They own you and me. They are hopelessly bound to Israel and oil and war. I quote, "We need more money to up the defense budgets for raises , new arms, and future capabilities." "Without some disaster or catastrophic event neither the politicians or the military would have approved." Feel duped? WE all were... Let us review this "New Pearl Harbor" shall we? Gee, Sir just who set up all these diversions? TREASON? 1 ) MILITARY EXERCISE NORTHERN VIGILANCE: Transferred most of the combat ready interceptors and possibly many AWACS from the north east into northern Canada and Alaska. This explains,in part, why there were only eight ( 8 ) combat interceptors in the NE on 9/11. 2 ) NON-MILITARY BIOWARFARE EXERCISE TRIPOD II: FEMA arrived in NYC on 10 Sept 2001 to set up the command post for FEMA, NEW YORK CITY AND DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE on Manhattan's PIER 29. This shows our masters are loving, they made a strong effort to minimize the required deaths. This was probably forced on them by the CFR, nice guys who must occasionally kill innocent people. 3 ) WARGAME EXERCISE, VIGILANT GUARDIAN: This exercise simulated hi-jacked planes in the northeast sector. The 9/11 commission made only mention of this single exercise and lied about its purpose. The commission said its purpose was to intercept Russian bombers. 4 ) WARGAME EXERCISE, VIGILANT WARRIOR: This exercise simulated hi-jacked planes in the northeast sector. 5 ) WARGAME EXERCISE NORTHERN GUARDIAN: This exercise simulated hi-jacked planes in the northeast sector. At the time of the real hi-jacking there were as many as 22 hi-jacked aircraft on NORAD's radar screen. Some of these drills were "Live Fly" exercises were actual aircraft, likely flown by remote control were simulating hi-jacked aircraft. Some of the drills electronically added the hi-jacked aircraft into the system. All this as the real hi-jackings began. NORAD could not tell the difference between the seventeen bogus blips and the five actual hi-jacked aircraft blips. Cheney could. It is clear we know almost nothing about how 9/11 was executed. We should know it was an exceeding highly technological operation involving dozens of major projects each employing large resources. So, right now the United States is a nation without a legal government. We are under occupation by a foreign power. "As nightfall does not come all at once, neither dies oppression. In both instances, there is a twilight. And it is in such twilight that we all must be aware of change in the air - however slight - lest we become victims of the darkness" Justice William O. Douglas, US Supreme Court (1939-75). How was the 'Secret' Senate meeting on Patriot Act? The expanded act would let police go on 'fishing expeditions? In a move that could expand the police powers in the Patriot Act, the Senate Intelligence Committee will meet behind close doors to discuss, among other things, "a little-discussed provision to enlarge the FBI's ability to wiretap people who it suspects are national security threats." And, pray tell, what constitutes the DEFINITION of a 'national security threat"??? Anyone who disagrees with the current Administration? Man, that's going to be one heck of a lot of wire taps. Where is the love? Repeat after me, "I am from the government and I am here to help you." If you are among those who still think the US government "Military - Industrial - Intelligence" complex would never dream of harming Americans: Who blew up the 'Maine'? Who has tested, for decades, - with often fatal results - scores of bio-pathogens against countless, unknowing US men, women and children? Who put our troops and public in death's way of radioactive fallout in the 50's and 60's above-ground nuclear testing? Who created 'Operation Northwoods' which proposed killing American airline passengers among many other treasonous acts? Who failed to warn and encouraged the attack on Pearl Harbor? Who killed JFK, RFK, JFK, Jr, Sen Carnahan, Sen Wellstone and countless others who 'got in the way'? What about those 50+ dead microbiologists? Who created/caused GWI which has killed/disabled over 500,000 US troops and their family members? Who used/is using nuclear weapons in Yugoslavia, Afghanistan and Iraq which have killed or disabled tens of thousands of US troops... and will kill far more than that number with the 'Depleted'Uranium now sown...not to mention the millions of other innocents now dead or dying? Who lied repeatedly about HIV/AIDS? Who has lied/lies repeatedly about mad cow prion disease in our food supply - which is now crawling throughout our environment? Who approved countless deadly pharmaceutical drugs, including deadly toxins like aspartame, and sat by and watched Americans die? You cannot deny the writing is on the wall for 9-11. As year five of the reign of George W. Bush unfolds, consider Team Bush's modus operandi: a cabinet in lock-step with the resident; secret policy-making meetings and back door deals with the corporate elite; legislation crafted by a Republican-controlled Congress with little dissent by a timid opposition party; misinformation and isinformation campaigns; a permanent war on terrorism that olerates the widespread abuse of detainees and secret prisons; and the chipping away at civil liberties.. America is becoming a Theocratic Fascist Dictatorship. If you need a reminder of a what a Fascist Government may be like, here are fourteen: 1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism (Patriotism) - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays. 2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc. 3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc. 4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized. 5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution. 6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common. 7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses. 8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions. 9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite. 10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed. 11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked. 12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even fore go civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations. 13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders. 14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections. Consider, the anti-democratic warning signs: the Patriot Act and subsequent civil liberties-busting legislation; election snafus seamlessly fading into history; a war carried out on the basis of misinformation and disinformation; secret prisons where captives are tortured. Think about how things change slowly, yet dramatically, while good people either aren't paying attention or are too satisfied to raise their voices. Will you save us? We are watching you too! Scared in America