have you believe that the Gitmo prisoners are docile and subservient victims being horribly brutalized by sadistic American soldiers. Nothing could be further from the truth.
The prisoners banged on their cells to protest the heat. They doused guards with whatever liquid was handy — from spit to urine. Sometimes they struck their jailers, one swinging a steel chair at a military police officer.
Some prisoners at the U.S. base in eastern Cuba have gone on the attack, as in April 2003 when a detainee got out of his cell during a search for contraband food and knocked out a guard's tooth with a punch to the mouth and bit him before he was subdued by MPs. One soldier delivered two blows to the inmate's head with a handheld radio, the documents show.
In another case, an inmate threw a partially full urine bottle at an MP in May 2002, apparently because he believed the soldier had intentionally kicked his hospital bed. When the soldier threw the urinal back, the detainee grabbed a steel chair and swung it at guards before they subdued him.
Think about it, had these been American POWs in WWI, WWII, Korea, Viet Nam etc, they would have been shot or hanged. What's amazing and the real story here is the amount of restraint our boys have shown.
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Sorry that this is off topic, but I think it is too important to ignore.
Published: July 01, 2005 11:30 PM ET
'NEW YORK Now that Time Inc. has turned over documents to federal court, presumably revealing who its reporter, Matt Cooper, identified as his source in the Valerie Plame/CIA case, speculation runs rampant on the name of that source, and what might happen to him or her. Tonight, on the syndicated McLaughlin Group political talk show, Lawrence O'Don nell, senior MSNBC political analyst, claimed to know that name--and it is, according to him, top White House mastermind Karl Rove.
Here is the transcript of O'Donn ell's remarks:
"What we're going to go to now in the next stage, when Matt Cooper's e-mails, within Time Magazine, are handed over to the grand jury, the ultimate revelation, probably within the week of who his source is.
"And I know I'm going to get pulled into the grand jury for saying this but the source of...for Matt Cooper was Karl Rove, and that will be revealed in this document dump that Time magazine's going to do with the grand jury."
Other panelists then joined in discussing whether, if true, this would suggest a perjury rap for Rove, if he told the grand jury he did not leak to Cooper.'
Oh, oh!
Posted by: greg at July 02, 2005 07:23 AM (3D/yw)
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Holy Christmas, that BUSH LIES bonehead might have been right about "Rove is Satan", even when blathering drunk or drugged! BUSH LIES is still a rotten punk, desert-dweller though.
About Gitmo, those captives in there are real badasses, or local animal herders who have become so powerful behind bars that the Qaida uses them to boost recruitment. I'd rather have 'em put on trial than to have them be used as recruiters for the ugliest terrorists to come for America again. Call me stupid if you want, I say deny the Qaedas that recruiting asset.
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 02, 2005 07:45 AM (ScqM8)
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and then:
'Zogby Poll: 42% Would Support Impeachment Proceedings Against Bush
Zogby | July 1 2005
President BushÂ’s televised address to the nation produced no noticeable bounce in his approval numbers, with his job approval rating slipping a point from a week ago, to 43%, in the latest Zogby International poll. And, in a sign of continuing polarization, more than two-in-five voters (42%) say they would favor impeachment proceedings if it is found the President misled the nation about his reasons for going to war with Iraq.
The Zogby America survey of 905 likely voters, conducted from June 27 through 29, 2005, has a margin of error of +/-3.3 percentage points.'
Another, Oh, oh, moment.
Posted by: greg at July 02, 2005 07:48 AM (3D/yw)
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Published on Friday, June 4, 2004 by FindLaw
'The Serious Implications Of President Bush's Hiring A Personal Outside Counsel For The Valerie Plame Investigation
by John W. Dean
Recently, the White House acknowledged that President Bush is talking with, and considering hiring, a non-government attorney, James E. Sharp. Sharp is being consulted, and may be retained, regarding the current grand jury investigation of the leak revealing the identity of Valerie Plame as a CIA covert operative.'
Reposted in light of the MSNBC revelation.
Posted by: greg at July 02, 2005 10:30 AM (3D/yw)
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greg, didn't Zogby also say Kerry won the 2004 election?

Anyway.
Hmmm, so terrorists are "defiant" while our soldiers are "torturers"... is that about right, AP? FIlthy rag.
Posted by: Ariya at July 02, 2005 10:31 AM (IXXEm)
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I don't put much reliance on polls. And especially ones which gather information from as little as 905 "likely voters". How many millions of "actual" voters are there? 120 million? 130 million? What cities did they call? How many in each city?
Polls are simply guessing games and
sometimes they get lucky. People grab at the one's they agree with regularly and see the one's they don't agree with as anomolies or they just ignore them.
It'll be interesting to see if Rove is the guy.
Posted by: Oyster at July 02, 2005 10:33 AM (YudAC)
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I just got back from the Live Aid concert. It's probably still going on. It's being held at Circo Massimo, the place where the chariot race in the movie, 'Ben Hur', supposedly takes place.
I'm sure many of you neocons think it's all bullshit. Some of the hard core members probably think we should just kill the Africans and put them out of their misery. Maybe it is bullshit. I don't know, but it was fun.
The Italian 'Yutes' are a fun bunch. I sat down on the hillside with a large group and we exchanged pleasantries. I didn't recognize any of the Italian bands and I think they were a little offended by that. I told them I remembered a great band from my last trip to Italy, Battista. They said he was indeed famous but he's dead now, so I apologized and they all laughed. I asked them if they had heard of Stevie Ray Vaughn and none of them had.
Every once in a while I smelled something familiar. Something I hadn't smelled in decades. No not pussy, hashish.
They say that of all the sensory modalities, the olfactory system can evoke the strongest memories.This may surprise you, but as a teenager I was a handful. In the 10th grade my mother found my stash of 1 hundred '747' qualudes. My mother told my dad and sent me off to live with him. My father was a visiting professor at the Univ. of Roma at the time. He was living with his new wife, a graduate student not much older than I. He really didn't want me around so he put me in a school to live, St. Steven's Episcopal (sp?)School in Rome.
Everyone there was from a wealthy family except for me. One of the students was the son of the US ambassador to Italy. For Christmas, he and his family went to Saudi Arabia. And upon his return, using the cover of diplomatic immunity, he smuggled in to Italy a chunk of black opiated hash that was so fresh it was maleable and would liquify when lit. We split it up and each got about 10 grams. The most famous students were Idris and Rita Al Sanusi (sp?). They were both the sons of the deposed king of Lybia, King Idris. Idris was the heir to the thrown should the monarchy ever be reinstated. They didn't sleep at the school like the rest of us. Everyday, the drove to school followed by the Carabinieri, the Italian Federal Police. Kadaffi was out to kill them possibly. We were best friends. After school I'd hop in their car and get them high as the Carabinieri followed us. Although the offense for drugs was very serious at the time, I was immune from the law while I was in their car.
Those were great times. I returned to the US the next year and we didn't keep in touch. I think about them from time to time, like tonight when I smelled the hash. I hope they're well and hope that someday Idris becomes King. I don't believe in monarchies, but he would make a good and kind king. I can't say the same thing about the younger brother, Rita though.
Buona notte. Tomorrow I head south to the province of Calabria.
Posted by: greg at July 02, 2005 04:03 PM (3D/yw)
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Ah the kaffirs Greg and his love toy DSM have demonstrated their ability to mouth the word of Allah as taught to them by the immans. Osama is overjoyed to see such wisdom by kaffirs, even though its harder to seperate them from the goats aand camels that are reserved for the glorious jihaddies. Continue your work and your vile relations will be ignored by the caliphate. Continue to spread the word of Osama.
Posted by: Osama at July 03, 2005 05:42 AM (DT110)
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>>>"Oh, oh!"
greg,
don't hold your breath on this one. This is just another "scandal" in a lost list of failed Liberal scandals that have fizzled out with nothing more than a whimper. Rove is indeed mentioned in the notes turned over by Time magazine’s Matthew Cooper—but not as the source of the leak.
Posted by: Carlos at July 03, 2005 10:30 AM (UWO6N)
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osama,
is that really you? You're sounding more and more like a rightwinger every day. I'm very pleased with your progress.
Posted by: Carlos at July 03, 2005 10:33 AM (UWO6N)
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"Osama" young imposterous man, you should be ashamed of yourself for being such a tasteless young naughty hooligan. Your dog has eaten your opium, pissed all over the cave you live in and then took a giant half-digested brillo pad and crayon steel wool rainbow dump right on your game plan. Just thinking of you makes me mad and I'm going out to shoot some more wasp's nests.
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 04, 2005 06:06 AM (ScqM8)
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