1 wow, Rusty. And you say you're not a conservative.

2 Yeesh, that's a terrible story. . .

3 I think the motivation is different from the Molochs. Molochs were driven out of fear or sadism or craziness. The doctor's motivation is mercy and compassion. I don't think it is a fair comparison and I hope if I were in the situation as the boy or Mario Shiavo that someone would have the compassion to put me out of my misery.

4 Hey 'mercy killing', I'll volunteer to pull the trigger. The motivation of the priests of Moloch were also good--saving the people from the wrath of god. Since when has motivation ever mattered when judging the morality of an act. Carlos, The first right is the right to life. Liberty is only instrumental to that right.

5 This isn't compassion. It's more of the usual liberal-minded arrogance, where the average person, regardless of who they are or their capabilities, isn't considered to be smart enough to know what's best for them. If it's all about compassion, how come now one's bumped Stephen Hawking to the front of the line?

6 According to wikipedia infanticide was common in all well studied ancient cultures, including those of ancient Greece Rome India China, and Japan. It was outlawed in Rome in 374 AD but rarely prosecuted. ALL adults should have a health proxy to make decisions for them, otherwise it will be left to the state.

7 So what John? So that makes it okay, since, you know, other cultures did it????? The parents of this child have been fighting to keep him alive. It is the doctors who sued to kill him!!!!

8 I think what Rusty is trying to say is that it's a family decision. Not the court's. Government may claim "compassion" as the motive, but a court of strangers should not overide personal decisions. And what is there to stop them from expanding that definition of compassion?

9 Not to be a prude for historical accuracy, Dr. Rusty, but my understanding is that the Phoenicans and the Philistines were not one and the same. The Phoenicians predated the Philistines along what is now the Israeli-Lebanese coast. The gods and rituals that you mention -- Baal and Moloch -- were Punic and not Philistine. The Philistines' origins are identified with a place called "Caphtor," whose exact location is unsettled but which many believe to be Crete or Greece. They were one of a group of "sea peoples" that attacked Egypt under Ramses II in an unsusccessful attempt to settle there before settling on the Israeli coast around Ascalon and Gaza.

10 >>>Since when has motivation ever mattered when judging the morality of an act. Oh, since Liberalism made emotions the primary driving force behind their ideology.

11 Libs scream about the coming fascist state led by the likes of Roberts and Alito. All the while millions die silently year after year. There will be nothing as obvious as a concentration camp with barbed wire and crematoria. No, the new Auschwitz will look much like a health clinic or hospital. The new Joseph Mengele will be a Dr. who decides who gets to live or die. Good God, a Dr. is suing to be allowed to kill a child whose parents want to keep him alive? What piece of shit out there defends this? IÂ’ve started shopping for a hand gun. I just thought with an American flag in front of the home, some Islamic wacko might feel empowered to try to kill me. I seem to be drawn to the Glock 17 but am still reading up. This post makes me think it may come in handy in a few years when IÂ’m baby sitting my DownÂ’s syndrome nephew and the state comes for him. Some atheist faggot at the clinic wants the little guy to come for a visit. Islamic wackos to the right killing by the thousands annually. Lefty is silently killing by the millions each year. Maybe it is time to stop shopping and buy the damn thing.

12 Brad, I much prefer the Colt .45 Auto, but the Glock is fine too, but don't forget to buy at least 1,000 rounds of ammo with it so you will have plenty. I also suggest a good pump shotgun, the Remington 870 is the best, and a semi-automatic rifle, preferably one of the Socoms.

13 Good point J.C., but Brad may not have that kind of money. Might I suggest buying a Mosberg 12 gauge pump shotgun, several boxes of 4 shot, ( Duck ), at least one box of 00-buck shot, a soild pair of jungle boots, ( $100.00 ). Get your home defense weapon first, and learn to use it well. Later, you can go 007, and pick up a hand gun that MIGHT win your battles. With the money you save, you can pick up some web gear, canteens, knife, flashlight to attach, some cammies, ( black bottoms, shirt marpart pattern, face veil,( recon wrap ), cover, ( hat ), gloves, and boot laces. The Mosberg will not cost as much to get. This way Brad, you will look good, and but real fear into the enemy.

14 Thanks Joe, I already have an old Mossberg 12 gauge over in Eastern WA. I only get to hunt chucker once a year around Thanksgiving so I just leave it over there. Maybe I'll grab it next time I'm over seeing the folks. I just get the feeling things could get ugly in a hurry pretty soon.

15 lets hope they don't get ugly. I don't think anyone really wants that. It's just every day, or so some moon god worshipper does his thing for Allah. It's just so stupid!

16 Brad, When things start to go downhill, they will get out of hand a lot faster than you think. Also, there is no substitute for a good, accurate, powerful handgun that is always close and secure when you really need it. I had a situation a few years ago where I was the victim of an attempted armed robbery, and a small Taurus .38 special saved my life. This was a life-changing experience. I forgot about always having the very best car or truck, or eating out every Friday and Saturday night, or having the latest in style clothes. I went out and bought the best, not neccessarily the most expensive, guns and accessories I have been able to find. You would be surprised at some of the deals you can get on guns if you are just patient. For instance, I got a Ruger Model 77 30-06 rifle for $200 from an individual who advertised in one of the free weekly newspapers. He needed the money and he took much less than what the rifle was worth. And frankly, Wal-Mart carries the Remington 870 pump at very attractive prices. The Socoms are expensive, I admit, and I had to save 5 years to get mine, but the AK line of rifles are really inexpensive and have a bullet that is adequate. My point is that your personal safety should be number one on your list. I put it ahead of everything except basic necessities.

17 Now how in the hell did I know that as soon as Brad said he was looking for a gun, you guys would pop in with advice? And sure enough ... I dunno. Call me psychic! hehe.

18 Well, oyster, you gotta be full of something! And I have made this one of the hobbies of my life. Why? I dunno, maybe it is because I have spent year after year hunting. Or perhaps it is because a small .38 special saved my life. Who cares, it's fun.

19 Oyster, this beats talking to gun salesmen any day!