July 15, 2005

Democrats *new* plan for Iraq (surrender) teaches our enemies the wrong lessons.

John Deutch, former Deputy Secretary of Defense and Director of Central Intelligence for the Clinton administration has a brilliant plan for Iraq: surrender. NY Times:

The insurgency cannot be overcome easily by either United States military forces or immature Iraqi security forces. Nor would the situation be eased even if, improbably, the United Nations, NATO, our European allies and Japan choose to become seriously involved.

Our best strategy now is a prompt withdrawal plan consisting of clearly defined political, military and economic elements. Politically, the United States should declare its intention to remove its troops and urge the Iraqi government and its neighbors to recognize the common regional interest in allowing Iraq to evolve peacefully and without external intervention. The first Iraqi election under the permanent constitution, planned for Dec. 15, is an appropriate date for beginning the pullout.

Militarily, we should establish a timetable for reducing the scope of operations that has enough flexibility so as not to provide a tactical advantage to insurgents. We should also plan on continuing measures like no-flight zones, border surveillance, training for Iraqi security forces, intelligence collection and maintenance of a regional quick-reaction force.

Economically, we should define what amount of assistance we are prepared to extend to Iraq as long as it stays on a peaceful path. It would be best if this aid was but one facet of a broader set of economic initiatives to benefit Arab states that advance our interests.

Of course, these measures cannot guarantee a secure and democratic Iraq free of external domination. But they could be first steps of a strategy to pursue America's true long-term interests in the Middle East and the Persian Gulf.

Notice how he throws in that phrase at the end, our true long-term interests? What, pray tell, are our true long-term interests in the Middle East?

What is our true long-term interest in the Middle East if not maintaining secular governments and the nation-state system?

The problem with Deutch is that he fundamentally misunderstands who we are fighting in Iraq. We are not fighting a nationalistic insurgency, we are fighting Islamist terrorists. This is not the same war that was fought against Saddam Hussein. This is a different war.

In the first war we fought Saddam Hussein's secular Baathist armies. In this second war we are fighting Islamists allied with al Qaeda. As one who regularly monitors jihadi activity, I can say with some amount of authority that the vast majority of casualties in Iraq come from Abus Musab al-Zarqawi's al Qaeda in Iraq, The Army of Ansar al-Sunna, The Islamic Army in Iraq, and a few other related groups. None of these groups had any interest in maintaining the Arab Socialism of Hussein. All of them share the goal of ousting the U.S. and toppling the Iraqi government.

We won the first war, but will we win the second? That depends.

Terrorists, despite what many on both the Right and Left believe, are not motivated by hate. These are political movements with political goals. Islam, unlike Christianity, does not distinguish between the political and the secular. The political goals of the Islamists are therefore religously motivated--yet they are concrete political goals all the same. In the case of Islamic extremism, the political goals range from the short-term goal of removing US forces from ALL Muslim lands to the very-long-term goal of a unified world government based on Islamic law.

In our rhetoric we say things like, "If [insert fear, civil liberties, etc. here] changes then the terrorists have already won." No, the terrorists are not interested in outlawing pornography, suspending the writ of habeus corpus, or in changing the routes we drive to work--they are interested in specific policy goals none of which have anything to do with U.S. domestic politics (except in the very-very long-term).

Terrorism, as a tactic, is chosen because terrorists believe those tactics will work.

Goal: U.S. Marines out of Beirut.
Tactic: Suicide car-bombing.
Result: U.S. Marines out of Beirut.
Lesson learned: Terrorism works.

They also believe domestic terrorism can lead to specific policy changes.

Goal: Spain out of Iraq.
Tactic: Terrorism against Spanish civilians.
Result: Spain out of Iraq.
Lesson learned: Terrorism works.

The Islamist forces that we are fighting, though, use other tactics as well as terrorism. In Iraq, for instance, much of what these Islamofascist forces are doing are textbook guerilla tactics. I've watched dozens and dozens of al Qaeda and Islamic Army in Iraq videos of U.S. military vehicles being blown up by roadside bombs, mortar attacks on military positions by small paramilitary groups, and even the occasional shoulder fired anti-aircraft missile. Thus, the terrorists we are fighting use terrorism as a tactic, but also use the tactic of guerilla warfare.

Why would they think they can defeat us in Iraq using geurilla warfare?

Goal: Soviet military out of Afghanistan/imposition of Islamic law.
Tactic: Guerilla warfare.
Result: Soviet military out of Afghanistan/imposition of Islamic law.
Lesson learned: Geurilla warfare works against super-powers.

But Afghanistan was not the only place where this lesson was learned.

Goal: U.S. military out of Somalia.
Tactic: Guerilla warfare.
Result: U.S. military out of Somalia.
Lesson learned: Geurilla warfare works against super-powers.

So, what will happen if we pull-out of Iraq? Can our long-term national interests be met using this tactic?

Goal: U.S. military out of Iraq/imposition of Islamic law.
Tactic: Guerilla warfare.
Result: U.S. military out of Iraq/civil war possibly leading to Islamic law.
Lesson learned: Geurilla warfare works against super-powers.

If we truly wish to win the second war in Iraq, we cannot abandon her to our enemies. If we do then the lesson they will learn is that the U.S. can be beaten. And if the U.S. is beaten in Iraq, then the U.S. can be beaten elsewhere.

That is a lesson we cannot afford our enemies to learn.

Hat tip Dale Franks from QandO

Posted by: Rusty at 01:35 PM | Comments (14) | Add Comment
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1 Goal: Oil out of Iraq. Tactic: Bomb the fuck out of Iraqi civilians & take over. Result: Huge deficit, massive lies, American/Iraqi deaths, more lies to cover up lies. Lesson learned: Manipulating the American public and stealing works. The rich shall always rule the world.

Posted by: osamabinhamburgler at July 15, 2005 02:44 PM (perrS)

2 Goal:treason

Posted by: Knights Templar at July 15, 2005 02:59 PM (DDXXI)

3 As a political liberal, I still think it is undoubtedly the WRONG THING TO DO, making a timeline to withdraw from Iraq. Among the many things Bush says, one of the few I agree with is that setting a timeline will embolden the enemy. We have to wait this one out and work very hard to restore security in this country. I don't necessarily think it was a bad idea to go into Iraq, but I think it would help if some conservatives thought a little more critically about the situation...We did a HORRIBLE job diplomatically of getting the rest of the world with us. We should have gotten more support before going there, because everyone knows that Saddam was not an imminent threat (the WMD report was done by people who were picked by the coalition, who said we found none). And now we have a mess. But we have to "stay the course" as Bush says, and I think that is right. In "staying the course", it is important to restore our diplomatic relationships so that we can move forward with the support of other nations. This will give us the help we need to leave with a success, which would be a good end. If we leave without restoring order, it will be one of the biggest embarrassments this country has ever seen.

Posted by: Steve at July 15, 2005 03:17 PM (Vh/Py)

4 I disagree. Since we had different interests than other nations 'diplomacy' would have been meanigless in trying to get them to help. In fact, 'diplomacy' is useless unless used to clarify national interests. Since the French and Russians saw it in their national interests to maintain the Saddam regime, no amount of talking would have helped.

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at July 15, 2005 03:24 PM (JQjhA)

5 osamabinhamburgler: Goal: Oil out of Iraq Tactic: Keep Saddam in power, let him trade oil in exchange for food and medicine Result: Corruption, mass murder, terrorist training camps, support for suicide bombers in Israel. Lesson Learned: Cheap gas comes with a price: enslavement of millions and support of tyrannical regimes. Take that Beatch!

Posted by: vaildog at July 15, 2005 03:49 PM (A8rF5)

6 So how many people still need convincing that the dhimmicrats were, are, and will continue to be traitors to Liberty in general, and America in particular? How many dhimmis stand up to speak for the oppressed these days, or ever? How many dhimmis want us to pay tribute to our enemies, or let them run amok throughout the world, as long as they leave us alone? It was the leftists/fascists who worked to help the communists take Vietnam, dooming millions to captivity and misery, and they want to do the same to Afghans and Iraqis. Liberals are cowards at best, traitors at worst, and the sooner their corpses decorate light posts throughout America, the better off we'll all be.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 15, 2005 06:10 PM (0yYS2)

7 this is going to be VERY extreme to the max, but im putting it up here as an example to how to keep traitors under control, and this may work towards terrorists as well....in ancient times, the area of Greece knows as Macedonia they had a very simple and effective way of dealing with traitors....the traitor would be executed first off, than his/her ENTIRE family{mother,father, daughters,sons,brothers,sisters,cousins,etc} would be executed as well to prevent any revenge/retribution....if you have any doubts on this fact, i suggest you look up any information on Alexander the Great and his father, King Philip.....The Genius of Alexander the Great....thats a book with info ....im not saying that this should be done, its just an example on an ancient, but very effective way to prevent people from being traitors

Posted by: THANOS35 at July 15, 2005 07:35 PM (5sR9u)

8 Okay, Osama, look's like the ball is in your court.

Posted by: Oyster at July 15, 2005 09:26 PM (YudAC)

9 1st thought: As war against Islamofacist terrorists continues liberal democrats get dumber and dumber. 2nd thought: The rich have always ruled the world. Who is better suited? A bunch losers? Dumb ass. 3rd thought: Iraqi oil should be paying for much of this war. The iraqi people in the majority voted for democracy so let them pay like every other free people on this planet does. 4th thought: I believe minds far above the narrow minded crybaby set can see that this war is more about the future than the present.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 16, 2005 06:26 PM (CBNGy)

10 I only wish Thanos, I only wish.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 17, 2005 02:49 PM (0yYS2)

11 There is a general reluctance among liberals to say that one culture is superior to another, particularly in its adaptability toward democratic principles. However, what Deutch is trying to say, in a racially-sensitive manner, is that the US not likely to succeed in imposing democracy on countries in the Middle East because of "cultural differences". Never mind that successful free elections were held in Iraq and Afghanistan in the past year, and millions of joyous Iraqis and Afghanis voted in spite of terrorist death threats, holding their ink-stained fingers up in triumph. America has a long and honorable tradition of establishing democratic governments with military forces on the ground in countries once thought hostile to democracy—just ask Germany, Italy and Japan.

Posted by: James at July 18, 2005 11:58 AM (LQziH)

12 And what does Germany, Italy and Japan do now? Strange way of saying thanks.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 19, 2005 11:09 PM (CBNGy)

13 Messages from the Middle East

Posted by: Khodran at August 25, 2005 02:10 AM (m+zum)

14 ☺If we ordinary people are good at earning friends☺ Politicians are surly excellent at making enemies!!! !!! Look who suffer!!! Is it the power of civilization? or civilization of the power? the civilization of power - jengizkhan style - على طريقة جنكيز خان - انها حضارة القوة www.khodran.com

Posted by: Khodran at August 25, 2005 02:15 AM (dMWB/)

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