October 19, 2004
Dear Limey assholes
That's the actual title of this Guardian article which has responses to the Guardian's efforts to meddle in the Presidential election:
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Have you not noticed that Americans don't give two shits what Europeans think of us? Each email someone gets from some arrogant Brit telling us why to NOT vote for George Bush is going to backfire, you stupid, yellow-toothed pansies ... I don't give a rat's ass if our election is going to have an effect on your worthless little life. I really don't. If you want to have a meaningful election in your crappy little island full of shitty food and yellow teeth, then maybe you should try not to sell your sovereignty out to Brussels and Berlin, dipshit. Oh, yeah - and brush your goddamned teeth, you filthy animals.Read the rest. Not funny, funnay! Hat tip: Mr. K
Editorial note: This and the other letters printed here were responses to something the Guardian was doing. The online version of the Guardian had started an online campaign to get British citizens to write voters in Ohio urging them to vote for John Kerry. This explains the tone of some of the responses. Also, notice the title of the article? A ploy by the Guardian to explain how we 'tards and rednecks could actually vote for that mean and stupid Bush-Hitler.
PS-Now I know why the Guardian is so pro-Kerry.
Double-lizzle PS-Bill say's the Guardian got "Not exactly the results that they expected." Nope, not exactly. And Kevin is wringing his hands in anticipation of Ohio districts to start voting. Yeah, I can't wait either!
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That is the funniest shtuff. Eh-var. Hold on, I need to go change my shorts....
Posted by: SparseMatrix at October 19, 2004 12:31 PM (935pb)
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I am English and proud of that fact, I am saddend to read how American people truly view us "Brits". I did believe the UK and US people, despite the "needling" I have read on this site, quite liked and respected each other, I have had my eyes opened.
Posted by: Dotty at October 19, 2004 12:40 PM (q1oAV)
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P.S. The American election is each American citizen's affair, not mine. I wouldn't dream of trying to influence anyone but....If you don't vote for Bush I will post a photo of my "yellow" teeth.
Posted by: Dotty at October 19, 2004 12:46 PM (q1oAV)
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Everyone from England is just like Austin Powers.
Posted by: Mr. K at October 19, 2004 01:01 PM (V/FDE)
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Dotty, before you go off the deep end on the lack of respect, remember that the responses are to an obvious lack of respect from the Guardian. The one thing we learn in the US when growing up is to mind our own business. (Unless we are liberals) Everyone replying was seeing the Guardian as the representative of Great Britain, and we don't take kindly to unasked for advice.
Posted by: Bill at October 19, 2004 01:30 PM (0BhZ5)
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Hi Bill, Yes that is true, the Guardian panders to all the middle class "know it alls" in the UK. I wouldn't give two hoots to anyone from overseas telling me who to vote for, I suppose I'd drone on about glaring shortcomings in some iconic figures in America, tarring everyone with the same brush. Bye for now, Dotty
Posted by: Dotty at October 19, 2004 01:38 PM (q1oAV)
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Dotty,
I second Bill's sentiments.
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at October 19, 2004 02:04 PM (JQjhA)
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I am from the UK.
The Guardian is the most reviled newspaper amongst "real" Brits on the news-stands.
The reasons are many and varied but basically, it is left-wing.
Honestly, although a member of the "gutter press", The Sun is the most read newspaper in the UK and the writer "Littlejohn" speaks for most UK readers. Check him out.
Posted by: Red Devil at October 19, 2004 05:44 PM (/sNX3)
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DOTTY: A few do go over board. Jolly ole England is much respected is the US. We have always considered the Brits to be the bravest nation on earth. We do know that the America haters on these blogs in all probability not true Brits anyway. We do wonder at times if Jolly Ole England is still there? Please remember some of us are attacking English bloggers back. Not attacking first. Why do the English let the few assholes continue their tirades against our country and its leaders? Since people like you do not defend us it's not hard to believe the America haters are in the majority. So we retaliate. Don't take it so seriously. 99.99% of Americans would come to England's aid without even thinking about it. An attack on England, is an attack on America. Shouldn't is be the other way around too? I'm proud of England and it's brave stance in helping us end global terror. PS France stinks.
Posted by: greyrooster at October 19, 2004 06:09 PM (CBNGy)
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I like Brits! I just hope that "they" aren't still sore 'bout the "Revolution..." ... ya' know, like france and the Louisiana Purchase or Russia 'bout Alaska.
As for "yellow teeth," one can always keep their mouth shut?
Mike
Posted by: Sergeant America at October 19, 2004 07:21 PM (d//26)
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How do Aericans expect the UK to keep out of US politics when it effects us so much? Actually, how do you expect the world to stay out of US politics. If you want to act like the world police expect everyone to want a say on how its run. America has never, ever, minded its own business.
As for the Guardian being the most reviled newspaper in the UK, that's completely false. That accolade belongs to the reactionary right wing paper The Daily mail, a paper that has been dragged through the courts more time than a little for making up stories about left wing politics.
As for The Sun, well, it's a tabloid, a comic, and anyone who takes their politics from it really shouldn't be allowed out of their homes without an adult.
Posted by: Matt Bing at October 20, 2004 05:59 AM (OnjMB)
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Matt Bing: America became the world police when England no longer could. You should praise us for picking up where you left off. Someone had to. Is England still there? Or are they on the way to being just another jealous country?
Posted by: greyrooster at October 20, 2004 08:36 AM (CBNGy)
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Dotty, the Brits used to be known for their good sense of humor. Your ultra-sensitivity at American responses to British meddling smacks of a complete lack of same. Laugh, Dotty. Brits are not That important, nor that self-important (I hope).
Lord knows you've had to swallow some pride on your Brussels Adventures in the last few years; have you learned nothing from the experience? A little humility and savoir-faire, please. Nex
Posted by: Alan at October 20, 2004 05:24 PM (LuRui)
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I've been watching the death of true England since 1963. When she decided to open the flood gates of immigration onto that tiny island. Their decision to allow immigration is not what's wrong, it's the incredible attitude of thinking by being nice to any and all would solve immigrant problems. Now she's just like France, she's got a huge unassimilated population they don't know how to handle without some kind of violence.
So, for any of them to think they are in any situation to be giving out advice to another country on how to handle their voting is not ridiculous, it's insane.
Posted by: mshyde at October 20, 2004 07:30 PM (kCnpw)
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MSHYDE: What bothers me is did the US liberal government at the time have anything to do with prodding the Brits into more immigration. Shit! some of it might be our fault. Kennedy, Johnson and the peanut farmer were constantly sticking their noses in other countries immigration policys. I'll never forget the day Mao se Tung shut Carter's mouth. Carter asked him if he would allow people to freely leave China. Mao's answer! How about 10 million next monday morning.
Posted by: greyrooster at October 20, 2004 09:02 PM (CBNGy)
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It had much more to do with old colonies, the definition of British nationality and from there it just ballooned.
Nothing wrong with immigration. Everything wrong with doing it blind.
But I disagree that immigration has a lot to do with the changing of British ways and customs. Seems to me that other social forces were and are at work there. But despite having lived there for a few years, I'm not much of a a meddler like these Guardian folk and leave it up to the Brits themselves to discuss the thing. I'd join in, but I don't see a lot of them here talking about it.
The Guardian type of Brit seems very interested in us, perhaps because it's loads of fun to demonize. It's also an easy way to define themselves. Too bad so many of them misjudge so much, even to the extent of mistaking their true friends for their enemies and their enemies for their friends. Nex
Posted by: Alan at October 20, 2004 11:04 PM (LuRui)
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I think some Americans heard " The redcoats are coming." Since the Revolution many og us detest any help from outsiders who really do not know what a Representative democracy is with an Electoral College. And yes, we've had a chance to learn from Europe in particular over the years...A practice of Facism,communism, scocialiam, like the National Scocialiat Party and others, Nazism. Sadly, we are the Worlds Police...I wish it weren't so. But we've been called on over the years to do so and have the best we can in this complicated world.Bush is not the problem. Many have appeased before and still do. Their rights to criticize even the French's are still protected and fought for by the U.S. and it's Allies...To this I wish to Thank you and the Good ol England, from the depths of my heart I' shall always remember you as will my family...Hey and you Aussies..Man I love you guys. Not one country has supported us more than you guys, it seems now like forever. We are surely kin in more than ways we understand.... Central Europeans seem to realize this more than those to close to France.
P.S. on request of my missus I did not post my e-mail Thanks it's getting late..G'night..
Posted by: Cutterjohn at October 20, 2004 11:17 PM (T39qU)
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England was never the world's police, simply a strong nation with a strong sense of moral outrage. We were involved in the beginning of the FFirst and Second World wars because we decided to stand up agains tyranny, much in the same way that America have done the same, after, however, a direct attack on its shores.
England is not another jealous country, especially not of America. We still have good traditions and, though our health service can be slow, we seem able to look after the majority of our inhabitants. Brits feel strong links to America through the moral stance both have taken and our shared sense of freedom. That doesn't mean we have to agree with everything that America believes in and we feel a need to get involved in America's politics when so much the country does affects us. From foreign policy to the Kyoto treaty, the USA has a massive say in the way Britain acts.
As for immigrattion, I've not heard many sillier things. Britain has not been dying since 1963, it has been getting stronger. Immigration has enriched our lives, taken us away from the colonial attitudes of the past and allowed us to view the world with a different perspective. No longer are ethnic miorities treated as second class citizens and I for one am glad of it. If people expect Brits to be sitting on the vilage green drinking tea whilst wearing a bowler, they are living in the past, a time we have left behind , thankfully.
Posted by: Matt Bing at October 21, 2004 03:55 AM (OnjMB)
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Talk about looking at the world thru rose colored glasses. This guys looking at England thru blinders. You may not believe it but Americans get film clips and newspaper articles from overseas. I haven't heard such goodie, goodie myopic crap since the hippy movement of the early 1960s. What are you taking?
Posted by: greyrooster at October 22, 2004 06:44 AM (CBNGy)
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Those two Brit posts demonstrate the thing better than anything an American could say. Nex
Posted by: Alan Pollock at October 22, 2004 09:17 AM (djFIP)
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> PS France stinks.
Hey greyrooster, the US gonna give back the Statue of Liberty then?
Posted by: Auntiedom at October 25, 2004 06:17 PM (hPjuj)
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Bend over then. (you gotta tell these euros Everything). Nex
Posted by: Alan at October 26, 2004 12:12 AM (TEzHM)
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You prove the point valiantly. Yanks think they *have* to tell the rest of the world everything.
Posted by: auntiedom at October 27, 2004 02:56 AM (V+0RI)
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I think it's simply splendid that 850 British troops have been sent to look after the 130,000 or so US troops stationed in the Baghdad area. I imagine the yanks will be very relieved to have some professional expertise to call on at long last.....
Posted by: Lawksamizzen at October 27, 2004 05:34 AM (8gxfv)
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Americans are just Mad That The Black Man is screwing their wives, sisters and Mothers, Cause they all have small cocks and homosexual tendencies, So they have to attack other countries.
Go Black
Posted by: Black at January 24, 2005 10:02 PM (C1M0o)
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Americans are just mad because the Black man is fucking his wife, mothers and sister cause they have small cocks, so they have to attact some poor country, If they attacked Korea, they get their asses kicked.
Go Black
Posted by: Jimmy at January 24, 2005 10:48 PM (C1M0o)
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Hmm..
America's always bragging about how great they are. I think they need to pull their heads out of there 'arses' and see the daylight.
And what the hells up with Bush?
Do you really call that a world leader?
More like cunt of the month!
Posted by: a bitch at February 10, 2005 11:31 AM (Y1u2A)
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And get this..
The only reason british soldiers are dieing in iraq is coz blind 'trigger happy' americans keep shooting them 'by mistake'..........?
Posted by: a bitch at February 10, 2005 11:36 AM (Y1u2A)
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all americans are like george bush: brainless, small dicked, stupid, tendency to blow up things,
Posted by: fuk da usa at March 01, 2005 04:49 AM (aaXcx)
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oh and by the way yanks its The United Kingdom of Great Britian and Northern Ireland not "england" you stupid wankers! look at a map!
Posted by: fuk da usa at March 02, 2005 04:26 AM (aaXcx)
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I think we should be involved to a certain extent in eachothers political interests for example could either country function as well as they did in the war on terror with different leaders in power, im not so sure, had it been the wanker (Michael Howard) UK has running for conservative now it could have been a different story altogether.
Posted by: Koochie at May 05, 2005 10:51 AM (F1nba)
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It is as bad an idea for one country to set itself up as the "world police" as any other. That one arguably used to be, but is no more, and that another didn't used to be, but now is, has nothing to do with the reality of the situation.
The problem that some Americans perceive, which is echoed by some Europeans, is that there is now an arrogance alive in the present US administration which seems able, not only to disregard the views of its opponents, but also to deliberately take actions that provoke negativity.
From this point of view, the politics of GWB are not that dissimilar to those of Thatcher. Where the two diverge are also where the ability of Brits and Americans to accept alternatives to the status quo are different.
There are voices on both sides of the spectrum on either side of the Atlantic. But the majority of voices that are heard from America seem to prove that they are able to swallow horse shit in the name of the Stars and Stripes. There are no longer many Brits at all who would be prepared to do the same for the Union flag, and there have not been for several decades.
But they do have something in common. Let one from another country try to tell them how to run things, and there will be plenty of spit and blood flying.
Posted by: itchybrain at May 28, 2005 01:55 AM (IU2AI)
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see, this is why everyone hates america. they are so arrogant and big-headed. this is what drove some people to drive a plane into the twin towers, and if this atitude carries on, it won't be long before someone tries to do something like that again. Even I can see that and Im only 17.
Posted by: Ollie at May 28, 2005 07:12 AM (rByZX)
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(i'm from the UK) I find the whole 'yellow teeth' thing hilarious - come to think of it my teeth are quite bad... anyway, the US rock!!!
Posted by: USA is ace!!! at June 02, 2005 07:43 AM (nxLZJ)
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who give a shit about america and yuor outdate views on us brits.if it was'nt for us you would be germans you stupid yanks.
Posted by: colin at August 06, 2005 06:41 PM (6b4sB)
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