1 its been happening for 2000 years.

2 If it was Muslims being killed, we would see Madelin Not So Bright, and Clinton wanting someone bombed. But, Sudan is an up and comming oil producer, and those who worship a false god like Allah are somehow Ok with the New World Order. On the other hand, those nasty Christians have to go.

3 Most Liberals are ignorant of it, and the ones that aren't think it's just fine.

4 But the Koran doesn't call for the death of apostates. In Islam, 'There is No Compulsion in Religion'; AAIIL(USA) Comments on the Apostasy Trial in Afghanistan

5 Wikipedia reports about 200 Baha i executed in the first 20 years after Iran's Islamic revolution http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baha%27i#Persecution I am not sure how much of an effect American liberals or conservatives can have in this matter. I suppose offering religous amnesty would only open the floodgates. But Sudan ? The American government could stop that which is probably like 10000 times worse very quickly if Washington really wanted to do so. Their one oil pipline is very vulnerable. One well trained company of Sudanese "freedom fighters" could keep it closed down until the genocide ended.

6 >>>>But the Koran doesn't call for the death of apostates. Maybe the Q'uran doesn't, but islam does.

7 John Ryan : There you see you can do it. You he just taken your first step into a much larger universe. (I hope it's him if not tell me and I'll trash the spoof.) Hey I don't quote obi-wan unless I like it. John is rith for whatever reason Sudan/Darfur is being left to the dogs. everyone knows but I don't see much getting done and when someone does try Sadan bitches and whines balks. They need a good slapping. Not much you can do with em except cram civilzation down their throats with a ax handle and that's expensive.

8 Steve, Islam is a religion of death. Their boy Mo likes to rape little girls. Allah is a false moon god. You don't have to believe me, look it up for yourself. It is in what we call history books. ROPMA

9 Is that why those muslum nationa are getting all those earthquakes?

10 Steve, The punishment for apostasy in the Koran is unclear, but it is implied. I would refer you to many instances in the Hadiths, which put the Koran into it's proper sequential order, whereby the punishment of death for apostasy is quite clear.

11 Islam is not a religion; it is a pathology, of hate, murder, rape and revenge, of epidemic proportions. One billion muslims, of which even moderates can be induced to mob behavior, is God's way of saying we'd better wake up and smell the Truth.

12 Some Teachings of the Jewish Talmud Where a Jew Should Do Evil Moed Kattan 17a: If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there. Penalty for Disobeying Rabbis Erubin 21b. Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell. Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be killed. O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work. Jews Have Superior Legal Status Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite...the payment is to be in full." Jews May Steal from Non-Jews Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile ("heathen") it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b). Sanhedrin 76a. God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article to a Cuthean..." Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep. Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel." Jews May Lie to Non-Jews Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a Gentile. Non-Jewish Children are Sub-Human Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals. Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth. Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows. Insults Against Blessed Mary Sanhedrin 106a . Says Jesus' mother was a whore: "She who was the descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters." Also in footnote #2 to Shabbath 104b of the Soncino edition, it is stated that in the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it is written that Jesus mother, "Miriam the hairdresser," had sex with many men. Gloats over Christ Dying Young A passage from Sanhedrin 106 gloats over the early age at which Jesus died: "Hast thou heard how old Balaam (Jesus) was?--He replied: It is not actually stated but since it is written, Bloody and deceitful men shall not live out half their days it follows that he was thirty-three or thirty-four years old."

13 Ah but the joooos have advanced a bit. Islam still wallows in the placenta of it's birth. There they go again pointing fingers at the jooooos in hopes it will distract from their own problems.

14 Dear "To n.a.palm" "Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell." It appears they're leaving it up to God with that verse. In Islam, it's a bit different. Muslims are compelled to do that work on earth. Everything else you've quoted is a bit different as well. There are some questionable teachings in Christianity too. The difference, in case you haven't noticed, is exactly what Howie said, "Islam still wallows in the placenta of it's birth." In other words, they're still killing apostates, still stoning women for "adultery" and still cutting off limbs and poking out eyes and blowing up children and kidnapping and raping - all in the name of Islam. The fact is most of the older religion's teachings were "of their time" and are no longer practiced in the literal sense. Except Islam. The fundamentalists and radicals strive to revert back to the literal interpretations and practices in everyday life. But, it's all the same to you, isn't it?

15 To: to n.a. palm.......and your point is? You seem knowledgeable of the old testament and other hebrew writings, but so what? Neither those nor the Koran/hadiths/ etc. mean anything now. Be careful when you "judge" others, because you will answer to God for it. If you are a muslim, no wonder you are miserable, because you have no hope of salvation.

16 you wrote( be careful when you judge athers ,you will answer to god for it) exuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me ? what do you think you are doing all the time? about salvation Christianity and Islam differ regarding the concept of the Original Sin. According to Christianity, Adam and Eve, the first humans sinned when they ate the forbidden fruit. They were expelled from heaven and sin entered the world. Every child of Adam, you and I, according to Christianity has inherited this sin (as genetic inheritance). Therefore, every male and female is born stained with sin and is therefore destined to hell, from birth. This belief in Christianity gave rise to the doctrine of Atonement. According to this doctrine, God sacrificed his "only begotten" son, Jesus to wash away the sins of the world. The only thing people have to do to wash away their hereditary stain is to believe in Jesus as God's son and that he died for them. Islam does not agree with all this. According to the Qur'an, every one is responsible for their own doings and nobody can carry the burden of another. God is forgiving and if a person sincerely repents, amends and does what is good and righteous, God forgives. Adam did not ask us before eating the fruit, so how can we be blamed? In any society, where justice is one of the highest valued morals, killing an innocent man (Jesus) to wash away the sins of the guilty would be condemned as immoral, yet billions of people rejoice over this "gift" of injustice! Once again, the source of conflict is Paul and not Jesus. Jesus never talked about atonement or a "free-ride" through the blood of an innocent man. On the contrary he said, "Â…If you would enter life, keep the commandments" (Matthew 19:17). It was Paul who brought the concept of the Original Sin into Christianity.

17 In any society, where justice is one of the highest valued morals, killing an innocent man (Jesus) to wash away the sins of the guilty would be condemned as immoral, yet billions of people rejoice over this "gift" of injustice! Are you kidding? The killing of Jesus IS condemned as immoral by christians (just watch Gibson's Passion of the Christ). What christians are grateful for is not his unjust killing, but that Jesus submitted himself to such a gross injustice for our sakes. It was a gift, and no "quotes" around gift are necessary. All sacrifices for others are inherently unjust-- that why it's called sacrifice-- somebody else pays the price. And that's what makes them heroic.

18 DEAR OYSTER There is no middle ground or compromise [59:21] If we revealed this Quran to a mountain, you would see it trembling, crumbling, out of reverence for GOD. We cite these examples for the people, that they may reflect. [29:43] We cite these examples for the people, and none appreciate them except the knowledgeable.* [7:204] When the Quran is recited, you shall listen to it and take heed, that you may attain mercy. Wisdom: A Great Treasure [2:269] He bestows wisdom upon whomever He chooses, and whoever attains wisdom, has attained a great bounty. Only those who possess intelligence will take heed. [6:126] This is the straight path to your Lord. We have explained the revelations for people who take heed. [17:41] We have cited in this Quran (all kinds of examples), that they may take heed. But it only augments their aversion. [17:89] We have cited for the people in this Quran all kinds of examples, but most people insist upon disbelieving. Throughout the whole Quran, we learn that any choice we make, based on the Quranic teachings, has to come down to one out of two totally opposite choices. It's part of God's mercy and His infinite grace to cite the examples for us in a very clear manner by presenting very contrasting views, paths and destinies. However and as stated in the above verses, only the intelligent, knowledgeable and wise ones will take heed and the majority will end up with a miserable choice! It's either God or Satan. [2:208] O you who believe, you shall embrace total submission; do not follow the steps of Satan, for he is your most ardent enemy. Satan Claims the Majority [34:20] Satan found them readily fulfilling his expectations. They followed him, except a few believers. It's one of two paths, straight or crooked, [76:3] We showed him the two paths, then he is either appreciative, or unappreciative. [7:45] "who repel from the path of GOD, and strive to make it crooked, and, with regard to the Hereafter, they are disbelievers." It's either belief or disbelief. [3:177] Those who choose disbelief, instead of belief, do not hurt GOD in the least; they have incurred a painful retribution. The absolute truth or falsehood. [10:32] Such is GOD, your rightful Lord. What is there after the truth, except falsehood? How could you disregard all this? [6:73] He is the One who created the heavens and the earth, truthfully. Whenever He says, "Be," it is. His word is the absolute truth. All sovereignty belongs to Him the day the horn is blown. Knower of all secrets and declarations, He is the Most Wise, the Cognizant. Doubtful or certain. [3:7] He sent down to you this scripture, containing straightforward verses - which constitute the essence of the scripture - as well as multiple-meaning or allegorical verses. Those who harbor doubts in their hearts will pursue the multiple-meaning verses to create confusion, and to extricate a certain meaning. None knows the true meaning thereof except GOD and those well founded in knowledge. They say, "We believe in this - all of it comes from our Lord." Only those who possess intelligence will take heed. [9:125] As for those who harbored doubts in their hearts, it actually added unholiness to their unholiness, and they died as disbelievers. [2:4] And they believe in what was revealed to you, and in what was revealed before you,* and with regard to the Hereafter, they are absolutely certain. In the Hereafter, will it be hellfire or paradise? [59:20] Not equal are the dwellers of the Hellfire and the dwellers of Paradise; the dwellers of Paradise are the winners. Should we choose this temporary life or the abode of the Hereafter? God Controls All Provisions [13:26] GOD is the One who increases the provision for whomever He wills, or withholds it. They have become preoccupied with this life; and this life, compared to the Hereafter, is nil. Rearranging Our Priorities [6:32] The life of this world is no more than illusion and vanity, while the abode of the Hereafter is far better for the righteous. Do you not understand?! Who is to follow? Guided or misguided leaders? [28:41] We made them imams who led their people to Hell. Furthermore, on the Day of Resurrection, they will have no help. [32:24] We appointed from among them imams who guided in accordance with our commandments, because they steadfastly persevered and attained certainty about our revelations. Please reflect on the following bright contrast of black and white: [5:100] Proclaim: "The bad and the good are not the same, even if the abundance of the bad may impress you. You shall reverence GOD, (even if you are in the minority) O you who possess intelligence, that you may succeed." [32:18] Is one who is a believer the same as one who is wicked? They are not equal. [35:19] The blind and the seer are not equal. [35:20] Nor are the darkness and the light. [35:21] Nor are the coolness of the shade and the heat of the sun. [35:22] Nor are the living and the dead; GOD causes whomever He wills to hear. You cannot make hearers out of those in the graves. [39:9] Is it not better to be one of those who meditate in the night, prostrating and staying up, being aware of the Hereafter, and seeking the mercy of their Lord? Say, "Are those who know equal to those who do not know?" Only those who possess intelligence will take heed. [41:34] Not equal is the good response and the bad response. You shall resort to the nicest possible response. Thus, the one who used to be your enemy, may become your best friend. The Rich Believer is Better than the Poor Believer [16:75] GOD cites the example of a slave who is owned, and is totally powerless, compared to one whom we blessed with good provisions, from which he gives to charity secretly and publicly. Are they equal? Praise be to GOD, most of them do not know. [16:76] And GOD cites the example of two men: one is dumb, lacks the ability to do anything, is totally dependent on his master - whichever way he directs him, he cannot produce anything good. Is he equal to one who rules with justice, and is guided in the right path? Higher Ranks for the Strivers [4:95] Not equal are the sedentary among the believers who are not handicapped, and those who strive in the cause of GOD with their money and their lives. GOD exalts the strivers with their money and their lives above the sedentary. For both, GOD promises salvation, but GOD exalts the strivers over the sedentary with a great recompense. [39:29] GOD cites the example of a man who deals with disputing partners (Hadith), compared to a man who deals with only one consistent source (Quran). Are they the same? Praise be to GOD; most of them do not know. We're all here on this earth for a second and final chance. It's either redemption and eternal bliss or eternal retribution. Either the right choice or the miserable one. Being hesitant, will not help. Staying in the gray zone is a condemned apathy. Waiting and postponing our decisions is nothing but a hypnotizing act of Satan just to delay our certainty until it's too late. Too Late [32:12] If only you could see the guilty when they bow down their heads before their Lord: "Our Lord, now we have seen and we have heard. Send us back and we will be righteous. Now we have attained certainty."*

19 If you believe we are here for a second, and final chance, you fit in just fine with the New World Order, and New Age beliefs. The G-d I pray to sent his son into the world to die for my sins, so I can have enternal life. G-d sent his son into this world not to condem it, but to save it. Jesus said " I am the way, and the life, he who believes in me shall not perish, but have enternal life". What happens when I fall short of perfection is that I lose rewards in Heaven, but not my erternal soul. Stop praying to a false moon god you can not know, and turn to Christ who died, but was risen, and sits on the right hand of G-d Almighty. I will not cut your head off if you do not believe as I do. I will not make you pay a tax either. That is what everyone is angry about. Islam is a religion of hate, and death. Most people are sick and tired of tuning the other cheek.

20 Why is when muslims or their dhimmis speak, it sounds like someone with a head injury babbling incoherently? If it weren't for cut and paste, they wouldn't have much to say.

21 Hey wheres AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL? wheres the UN human rights groups? their nowhere to be found