May 22, 2006
CAIR Upset at LGF
This time they point the ROP finger at LGF for comments made by those upset over statements made by Islamic Jihad after the murder of Daniel Wultz. He was an American victim of a terrorist attack by Islamic Jihad in Israel. CAIR conveniently left out what upset the commentersÂ…
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Fontpagemag :Many of the blog comments offered prayers to the Wultz family. Others dealt with the terrorist groups’ reactions to Wultz’s injuries. In an interview with Aaron Klein from World Net Daily, Abu Ayman, a PIJ leader, said, “Our hero believed in Allah and died while fighting for Allah but your pig was killed in a restaurant in an area full of prostitution.” And Abu Nasser, a leader of the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, the other group responsible for the attack, stated, "This is a gift from Allah. We wish this young dog will go directly with no transit to hell.”More fine Representative of the ROP chime in here.
Worldnetdaily: JERUSALEM – Daniel Wultz, a Florida teenager lying in a coma after being critically injured last week in a suicide bombing at an Israeli restaurant, is the "best target combination we can dream of – American and Zionist," Abu Nasser, a leader of the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, one of the groups responsible for the deadly blast, told WorldNetDaily.Killing Americans and Jew can be great! Just like frosted Flakes! The westerners are justifiably outraged. So are we intolerant for making war and killing those who murder us and call us pigs. Of course the Islamic terrorists always blame it on being “oppressed” or “mistreated” when in fact they are responsible for the state of their nations. But when did they ever work at making anything better? Never, they are lazy! They destroy and whine hoping someone will come in and fix their lands which they have ruined. Why? Because it’s easy, Taking responsibility for their actions and building a future for themselves is just too much work. So their brilliant minds all seem to land on, “Lets blow shit up”. The lazy cowards, how about you Mr. Abu Ayman, when will you martyr yourself? Or, being the coward that you are, will you leave that to some brainwashed teen?Abu Ayman, a leader of the Islamic Jihad, which also took responsibility for the April 17 bombing in which Wultz was injured, threatened all Americans and Jews worldwide and expressed regret Wultz is still alive.
"If we know there are Americans in a place we plan to attack, we will not cancel the operation. On the contrary this would be a sign from Allah that this is a more blessed operation. Killing Americans and Jews in one operation – it can be great."
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>>>>Taking responsibility for their actions and building a future for themselves is just too much work. So their brilliant minds all seem to land on, “Lets blow shit up”
Their dilemna is that Islam should have elevated their civilization above all others. Instead it is at the bottom of the heap. It does not speak well of Islam. So therefore the only explanation is that it is because of outside interference and colonialism. Yet their decline has been centuries in coming. When the Brits came to Arabia in the early 20th century, those lands were worse sewers than they are today. This proves that Islamic supremacy is a lie, and in the minds of muslims it must prove that the kuffar God is superior to their own. They would rather you stick an ice pick in their ear drums than admit to that. So they fall back on victimhood and hating all things non-muslim and blowing shit up in frustration rather than admit their societies are grossly dysfunctional and Islam is no help at all. That in a nutshell is why we are now fighting a war on terror.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at May 22, 2006 01:26 PM (8e/V4)
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Muslim nations have never created anything of value. Oh, wait. They invented the zero? But they needed westerners to tell them what to do with it. Arab nations have never bred anything but poverty, violence, and fanaticism. It's ironic that this area of the world is called the "cradle of civilization".
Posted by: Richard at May 22, 2006 01:51 PM (U+YqD)
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Religious Zealotry- regardless of affiliation- leads to no good end. Bring me a country headed by sceptics and atheists, so that government for the people and by the people can be just that.
Jesus didn't come with an army to reign as king, and he said give to Cesar what is Cesar's... The GOP should remember those two points when they get in bed with Pat Robertson, Dobson, and the rest of the Kooky Religious Right. Intolerance masked as religiosity... Disgusting.
Posted by: Blue Patriot at May 22, 2006 01:54 PM (yFm36)
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Richard,
Actually, while Europe languished in the dark ages, the Muslim world had advanced medicine, universities, math, trade, and tolerance for other cultures... What you look at today might have more to do with the results of 500 years of repeated invasion by the European Christians and the 19th and 20th century results of Empire Building.
I'm just saying get your facts straight...
Posted by: Blue Patriot at May 22, 2006 01:58 PM (yFm36)
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There they go again.
Posted by: Howie at May 22, 2006 01:59 PM (D3+20)
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I don't disagree with your premise, Jesusland, but the state of the Muslim world today isn't a comment on their religion. The Muslim world is a remnant- A remainder of a once-powerful, educated, and civilized society. Rome was the home of barbarians and tribesman for a hundred generations after the last emperor fell, but nobody would say that Rome was nothing more than a tribal society of hunter-gatherers, right?
The shape of the middle east today not-withstanding, the pinocle of higher learning, art and science once stood squarely in the Muslim world.
Posted by: Blue Patriot at May 22, 2006 02:09 PM (yFm36)
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The left has trouble with the words "is" and "was" you know.
Posted by: Howie at May 22, 2006 02:18 PM (D3+20)
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>>>I don't disagree with your premise, Jesusland, but the state of the Muslim world today isn't a comment on their religion.
Actually that wasn't my point. My point was that to THEM it's a comment on their religion. To THEM their religion should have created an islamic superpower-- a Caliphate. But the Caliphate of old simply declined under Islam. Unlike christianity, Islam is a religion that's supposed to create a better life in the here and now, but their decline flies in the face of that. It's driving them crazy and they're blowing shit up in frustration and denial.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at May 22, 2006 02:20 PM (8e/V4)
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"Their dilemna is that Islam should have elevated their civilization above all others. Instead it is at the bottom of the heap. It does not speak well of Islam."
My point was the their civilization WAS raised above all others, but nothing lasts forever. The inhabitants of the middle-east are those same tribesman who hold on to a long dead and half-remembered society, instead of rolling up their sleeves and getting on with the present, such as it is.
Not unlike the Reaganites? (kidding, kidding...)
Posted by: Blue Patriot at May 22, 2006 02:33 PM (yFm36)
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There we go! Now that made sense. We can take a little ribbing. Salright.
Posted by: Howie at May 22, 2006 02:35 PM (D3+20)
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Computer burp. Mea Culpa.
Posted by: Blue Patriot at May 22, 2006 02:35 PM (yFm36)
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>>>My point was the their civilization WAS raised above all others, but nothing lasts forever.
Or maybe their civilization was great for a time DESPITE islam and it slowly declined BECAUSE of islam. Regardless, they believe Islam should make them great and it's killing them that it hasn't. Christians don't have that problem. Their religion comforts them when they're in the dumps, it doesn't compel them to blame the world for putting them there.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at May 22, 2006 02:38 PM (8e/V4)
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There is no conversation as subjective as a comparison of religion. Carlos, at best, your comment above is a sweeping generalization. Don't you think that when Christians were being fed to the lions, some of those people weren't asking "God, WTF???" Yeah, you could suppose that Islamic culture was great inspite of Islam, but you'd also have to apply that to Western Culture being great inspite of Christo-Judaic principles. It don't hold water. At some point, the weight and mass of a culture will cause it to topple. It's the way of the world.
Posted by: Blue Patriot at May 22, 2006 02:46 PM (yFm36)
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happens, I can fix the double post if you like.
Update: done. Hope it's right. People get upset about their speech. Right Larry?
Posted by: Howie at May 22, 2006 02:46 PM (D3+20)
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The weight and the mass of an uncompromising religion chained to a culture will cause it to topple. It's not the culture, it's the religion, and how it's being taught. Never mind the fact it was perverted by some evil people for their own causes. Christianity was poisened for a while, luckily that poison was burned out of it. Could you imagine what Christianity would be today if the likes of Torquemada were still around? It would be a mirrior image of what the Islamofacists are up to now.
Posted by: SPO at May 22, 2006 02:56 PM (OZn2O)
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>>>Don't you think that when Christians were being fed to the lions, some of those people weren't asking "God, WTF???"
Blue,
Yes, of course christians say "WTF???" That is called a crisis of faith. It's as old as religion itself. But I am talking about doctrines that shape worldviews.
Christianity is more of an individual thing and does not have doctrines that teach it will make a society great and promise the good times collectively. Some christians may believe that, but it's not a christian doctrine. On the contrary, it teaches that persecution and bad times will come BECAUSE of our faith, so be prepared for it. So when we are mocked and denigrated and persecuted, we expect it.
After all, our Lord and Saviour came to be mocked and persecuted, while Mohammed came to be glorified. THAT'S WHY CHRISTIANS DON'T RIOT WHEN THEIR RELIGION IS MOCKED, while muslims do. Because our doctrines promote very different worldviews.
To sum it up, Islam teaches that it will make a society great and that's why they have sharia. Thus their worldview is in sharp contrast with the reality surrounding them. Sharia doesn't do squat for them, so somebody external must be to blame.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at May 22, 2006 03:01 PM (8e/V4)
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Blue patriot: Bullshit. Another way of looking at arab ability is that they had a 800 year head start and then couldn't keep up. As Jesusland says. They produce nothing of value to the civilized world. Twenty international patents in the last 50 years. Hewlet Packard averages 9 per day. They do nothing but copy the western world and are jealous of every thing we invent, produce and have. They know of their hatred and inferiority. Strange that others haven't figured it out. Islam and its followers are a cancer on this earth and should be removed the same as polio.
Posted by: greyrooster at May 22, 2006 03:01 PM (pSK/I)
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I believe the state of the Muslim world today is a direct result of the gutter religion. All the rest is bullshit. Their wars, intolerance of other religions, cruelty, barbarity and backwardness in general was caused by religion not invasions by others. Rome was invaded repeatedly. Same as they invaded Germany, France and England. Did they turn out to be the backward assholes the muslim nations did? Invasions by the west caused this problem. BULLSHIT! The fucking turks invaded and rules Greece for 400 years. Have the Greeks become the animals muslims have? Muslims ruled much of Spain for hundreds of years. Do Spanish run around cutting people heads off? Most of middle east was ruled by other muslims (Turks) far longer than by western nations.
Blue Patriot: Quit listening to that liberal bullshit. The vast majority of the suffering in Asia, Africa, India and the middle east is caused by Islam and the backward shits who practice it. Every son of a bitch who attacked on 9/11 was a fucking low life muslim pig. Everyone who applauded the death of 3000 innocents was a muslim pig. Every terrorist theatening civilized countries is a muslim pig.
Blameing today's problems on the west is Stupid excuse making. If child molesting murderers were raised different maybe they wouldn't be like they are. Should we make excuses for them and blame it on western society. DIPSHIT:
Posted by: greyrooster at May 22, 2006 03:33 PM (pSK/I)
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I think what JC is trying to say is that many are suffering from a cognitive dissonance. But I believe it's not the Islamic rulers that suffer from that. They instill this hatred of all that is non-Muslim in their people, feeding them many half-truths and lies and no way to find out what is truth and what isn't. But when their eyes behold something different than what they're told or taught it causes that hiccup in the reasoning processes of some. They can't reconcile it.
Frankly, it was a brilliant idea for a long time. Until the information age began to fully mature and jets could fly you around the world in hours. They had successfully solidified relations between the haves and the have-nots in the Muslim community by creating a common foe and declaring all Muslims superior to even the richest or most sublime jew or christian or hindu by simple virtue of their religion, Islam. That foe, they were taught, was unclean and wanted to destroy them for various fabricated reasons, when in fact the vast majority of people would rather trade goods and services with them. And by controlling who they spoke to or who they did business with through religious doctrine - forbidding it for fear of hell and damnation - it was a good run. But the gig is up.
Now that the whole of Islam has run amok with infighting and fanatic sects and killing as many of each other as they do the infidel, there are a very few scrambling desperately to salvage a religion that has been left unattended and uncared for like a weed.
Posted by: Oyster at May 22, 2006 03:56 PM (YudAC)
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Blue Patriot seems to me to be someone who doesn't want to be an idiot liberal, but has been indoctrinated to be, and his head is full of pseudo-history and islamic propaganda. Islam doesn't create anything; it only steals and destroys. The Arabs didn't invent the concept of zero, but rather got it from India, where they also got their numbers. They didn't invent medicine, but rather took advantage of the remains of Greek and Roman libraries from centuries past, where men like Galen left their legacies written on parchment and papyrus. Arabs don't invent, they don't contribute, they just take and kill and destroy. They should be exterminated like the subhuman vermin they are.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at May 22, 2006 04:19 PM (0yYS2)
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FUCK CAIR!
Posted by: Leatherneck at May 22, 2006 04:21 PM (D2g/j)
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Well IM they did translate, copy and preserve some of the works you speak of.
Posted by: Howie at May 22, 2006 04:31 PM (D3+20)
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Well said IM: I'm tired of idiots assuming we haven't studied the past as much as they. Difference being some of us have the common sense to understand the real causes of this mess. It's called ISLAM. muslims are a backward, ignorant, silly, cruel bunch of retards because of their religion. Also they must be a stupid people not to understand that.
Posted by: greyrooster at May 22, 2006 04:36 PM (pSK/I)
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Yes they did Howie, but that's still a pretty damn far cry from actually creating anything. Muslims are parasites on humanity, nothing more.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at May 22, 2006 05:49 PM (0yYS2)
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That's right Howie. You sure do!
Posted by: Last gasp Larry at May 22, 2006 06:01 PM (FCC6c)
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" That foe, they were taught, was unclean and wanted to destroy them for various fabricated reasons, when in fact the vast majority of people would rather trade goods and services with them. "
Hmmm ... sure sounds reminiscient of the fate of the American Indians.
Posted by: Last gasp Larry at May 22, 2006 06:13 PM (FCC6c)
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BP. I'm aware of muslim history. Ok, they did have a magnificent empire but that ended 500 years ago. I don't think we can really blame christians for the their current state of decay. It's Islam itself that has destroyed them. Islam is not compatable with the modern world. That seems pretty obvious.
Posted by: Richard at May 22, 2006 06:43 PM (7KF8r)
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Shit! Back to the American Indian thing again. Poor fellows.
Posted by: greyrooster at May 22, 2006 07:22 PM (pSK/I)
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Ah... Fuck you, Grey Rooster. What makes you think you know any more about this than anyone else? Besides the fact that your agrument is rascist at its core, It lacks a foundation in REALITY, DIPSHIT.
Richard,
All I'm saying is we're watching the last breaths of an old culture. And we're watching it from the view of a relatively young and blessed nation. It colors your perspective. Although calling Islam a gutter religion or blaming it for the world's ills is simplistic and ignorant.
Wouldn't it be great if we could boil down the complexities of international global relations, and just figure out who to fucking bomb?
Posted by: Blue Patriot at May 22, 2006 09:59 PM (4xYSu)
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fall out, fortify and nuke any and all threats ...
Posted by: Last gasp Larry at May 23, 2006 12:19 AM (FCC6c)
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Oh no Rooster, a lefturd troll called you a racist! You know that means he automatically wins, right?
Definition of a racist: A conservative who's winning an argument against a liberal.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at May 24, 2006 05:01 AM (0yYS2)
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"Muslims are a parasite on humanity, nothing more."- IM
Yeah, you really have no ground to stand on, IM, You inbred fuck.
Take your "white power" chanting ignorance back to the 1930's where you belong.
Fucking Closet nazis... you don't even have the balls to just come out and admit you're a racist.
Dumb as rock.
Posted by: Blue Patriot at May 25, 2006 08:10 AM (yFm36)
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Blue Balls,
Have you ever tried getting laid? It might help you calm down. I.M. is just writting the truth about subjects the MSM is to afraid to show.
Just look at all the ROP individuals who are in the news. It is crazy, and so are you.
Fuck Off and Die Blue Balls!
Posted by: Leatherneck at May 25, 2006 07:28 PM (D2g/j)
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Semper Fi. 2nd batt, 26th marines, Que Son.
Posted by: greyrooster at May 25, 2006 09:33 PM (pzM6K)
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Sounds like blue dress patriot is the racist. Most leftards are. They hate white Americans.
The reason. They are lonely little pricks. Friendless. Left out by normal people. Never invited out with the boys. Why because they are assholes. So they turn on their own government, their own people, their own institutions. Maybe that way they may make a friend. A sorry lot. Think back guys. A clone of many in the past.
The main thing is that we keep up the fight and let the prick know no one of substance listens to his commie, liberal bullshit. Go fuck yourself blue dress faggot. I believe you are the kind that can do it.
Posted by: greyrooster at May 25, 2006 09:45 PM (pzM6K)
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