October 18, 2005

British Conservative makes tasty fags for Kim Jong Il

Now, I'm using that word in its British slang meaning of "cigarette", so don't go all Andrew Sullivan on me.

Interesting story in the Guardian (h/t AmSpec Blog) about a secret cigarette factory deep inside North Korea operated by British American Tobacco. The factory is apparently pretty damned illegal and even if it's not, BAT needs to be run out of business for collaborating with Mordor.

The political implications of this, however, are potential dynamite. Kenneth Clarke is currently running to lead the do-nothing, useless British conservative party. Clarke is pretty much "conservative" in the same way Chirac's party in France is "conservative": maybe a little less statist than Labour at home, but anti-Iraq war and not pro-American either. And Clarke is, outside of Parliament, a paid apologist for British American Tobacco.

Interestingly, this isn't the first time Clarke's in trouble over this issue; he's gotten burned doing the same thing in Burma. If this brings him down, good riddance.

It's a shame that Britain's conservative party isn't dedicated to conserving those wonderful British ideas that have brought liberty to so much of the world--Burke, Locke, Smith, Hume--but has (with the exception of Thatcher) embraced a snobbish version of socialism lite. They have recently gone through several new party chairmen and tried to remake themselves time and again, but the conservatism they espouse each time has much more in common with the effete, statist, snobbish continental conservatism than it does with a robust American-style vision of limited government, personal responsibility, and strong defense. Clarke is anti-Iraq war and pro-Europe, and would probably continue the Tories' disastrous streak.

Maybe it's time for a change, lads?

Posted by: seedubya at 03:13 PM | Comments (7) | Add Comment
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1 CINO! The British conservatives are the worst possible, not really conservative at all, but just a mirror image of the Liberal Party. One wonders why any true conservative would bother to vote for them at all. The Brits are in dire need of a healthy conservative party. I can just imagine what Winston Churchill would say if he saw the mess Britain is in today. I talked to several radical Muslims last night, and all of them had IP addresses in Britain and Canada, and they all called for the destruction of the countries they are living in. And I will bet they are all living on welfare. If Britain and Canada do not wise up quick, and I mean real quick, they will find themselves either at war with radical Muslims inside their own countries or else living under Sharia Law. Neither possibility will be paladable for the British or Canadians.

Posted by: jesusland joe at October 18, 2005 03:39 PM (rUyw4)

2 I'd love to know where you get your info on the UK, because it is woefully inaccurate. Have you been reading the Guardian and believing it all?! Do you mean the conservative party is "anti-Iraq war and not pro-American either" or just Ken Clarke? I think you might find one of the reasons that the Tories did so badly in the last election was the voters were well aware that the Tories went right along with Blair in the run-up to the war, and only started making anti-war noises when it seemed that it might (but ultimately wasn't) politically expedient. the Tories were quite pro-war when they thought it might suit them. Typically the Tories fall over themselves to praise the US too, so I don't know where you get this anit-US thing from. If it has anything to do with the attitude towards your current thicker-than-a-door-stop-but-less-useful president, that might be because, well, there really isn't anything to praise. Or, perhaps it's because he is so woefully unpopular in the rest of the ENTIRE world (including Britain- oddly enough) that it would be political suicide to say anything nice about him. Anyway, since when was being pro-US the litmus test of conservatism? Why can't conservatives the world over be right (the real - right on right) and you American conseratives be wrong? Oh, that's right, because you are ALWAYS right. But we're the elitist snobs - silly me. Ken was anti-war and he's pro-Europe - I'll give you that. But, please don't try to sound like you follow or understand British politics with all this "effete, statist blah blah blah." You clearly don't know the first thing about my country. OH, and one last thing, Ken got defeated in the leadership battle today by the way so I think your "The political implications of this, however, are potential dynamite" statement might have just expired faster than one of Ken's dodgy fags. BTW Jesusland - you are clearly as mad as a box of frogs.

Posted by: A Brit at October 18, 2005 04:08 PM (IKGiV)

3 Brit, I lived in your country for nearly two years and watched William Hague floundering around on the Beeb every night, trying and failing to find the right note to bring down Blair without actually doing anything conservative. Duncan Smith was no better. And yes, I'm largely talking about the strongly Europhile and anti-bush Clarke wing of the party, but even the Spectator--besides the Sun and the Daily Torygraph edit pages one of the few conservative outlets in the UK--opposed the war, bashes Bush, and oozes contempt for yee-ha Americanism. Everybody but Mark Steyn, that is.

Posted by: See-Dubya at October 18, 2005 04:41 PM (+sqIa)

4 I have never seen a mad frog.

Posted by: jesusland joe at October 18, 2005 05:13 PM (rUyw4)

5 Oh Noes!~ The British do not like the American President, but the American's love your ponce of a Prime Minister!! Next you'll tell us the U.S lost the respect of France?

Posted by: dave at October 18, 2005 07:01 PM (CcXvt)

6 A Brit, Do you call yourself a conservative? I don't in any way mean to be disrespectful, I am just curious. What would a conservative in Britain today think about Hobbes, Locke, or Churchill? About the right to self defence(your spelling), the right to own a firearm, the right to free speech unemcumbered by racial or gender considerations, the right to own property, the one man, one vote rule, and the right of the majority rule with protections for the minority(and I don't mean race or gender). I am curious about many things, including frogs(as I've caught many bullfrogs and ate a few), and quite frankly enjoy them immensely when I see them in my wife's flower beds eating insects. And you may call me a mad frog anytime, because I would never take that as an insult, but as an offhand compliment. After all, think about all those princes who were turned into frogs destined to come back as a prince again. Watch out, Harry!

Posted by: jesusland joe at October 18, 2005 08:03 PM (rUyw4)

7 England needs another MAGRET THATCHER or WINSTON CHURCHILL its run by a palament of fools

Posted by: sandpiper at October 18, 2005 08:36 PM (swaoX)

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