August 24, 2005

Australia Warns Muslims to Accept Western Values or Get Out

Cajones: Tony Blair and John Howard have them, George W. Bush does not.

Josh sends along this The Age article (subscription):

EDUCATION Minister Brendan Nelson has bluntly told Islamists who do not want to accept and teach Australian values that they should "clear off".

And John Howard has warned that mosques, prayer halls and Muslim schools will be watched "to the extent necessary" to ensure they do not give comfort to terrorism.

A day after the Prime Minister's summit with Muslim leaders, the Government stepped up its push to get "Australian values" — epitomised, it says, by the Anzac story of Simpson and his donkey — taught comprehensively to Muslim children.

On Tuesday Treasurer Peter Costello said people thinking of coming to Australia who did not like Australian values and preferred a society that practised sharia law should go elsewhere...

We want them to understand our history and our culture, the extent to which we believe in mateship and giving another person a hand up and a fair go. And basically, if people don't want to be Australians and they don't want to live by Australian values and understand them, well basically they can clear off."

When are our elected leaders going to be brave enough to say the same?

Posted by: Rusty at 04:45 PM | Comments (30) | Add Comment
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1 When will our leaders say that kind of thing? I see two ways that it happens - one involves a President Rudy; the other involves me booking a ski trip to hell.

Posted by: KG at August 24, 2005 05:11 PM (s8D3V)

2 It's a step in the right direction. Mosques and Islamic schools have no place in the Western world, letting them be built is in itself a crime against humanity.

Posted by: Jester at August 24, 2005 05:17 PM (2FYdV)

3 As I noted to Rusty in my tip, it will be very, very interesting to see whether any Islamofascists, in Australia or elsewhere, will pick up the gauntlet that the Aussies have thrown down.

Posted by: Joshua at August 24, 2005 05:54 PM (XPnN/)

4 Finally someone said it!!!!

Posted by: Tom at August 24, 2005 06:49 PM (ntMFM)

5 Go Howie go John Howie

Posted by: Howie at August 24, 2005 07:18 PM (D3+20)

6 It's a wonder the man can walk; he must have huevos like coconuts.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 24, 2005 07:50 PM (0yYS2)

7 Hey Tom: I said it a year ago. I know, I know, I don't count. Muslims don't belong in the Western World. They and their religion should stay in their countries. They offer the west nothing but trouble. Islam should be banned in America. This country wasn't founded by muslims. When the founding fathers wrote about freedom of religion they were not referring to Islam. The practitioners of this gutter religion should not be allowed in America. Young Bourbon Professional: Perhaps this doesn't belong here but there was an interesting program on television last night concerning abortion. The medical experts say that a fetus has a human conscious at 28 weeks. The fetus also feels pain at 28 weeks. So much for those who would murder a child during the third trimester.

Posted by: greyrooster at August 24, 2005 08:40 PM (CBNGy)

8 Bastards. Does this mean all Muslims have to become Christians and bleach their skin? Is that what "embracing Australian values" means? All these white people are so racist its disgusting. White people can be terrorists to (KKK, Aryan Nation, Bush)

Posted by: Sheila at August 24, 2005 09:10 PM (hKK+H)

9 Sheila, shut the fuck up you stupid dhimmi whore. Go suck a camel's dick. I hope the next terrorist attack gets you.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 24, 2005 09:18 PM (0yYS2)

10 I know it sounds crazy, but I have proof Satan is on the side of the Jihadi's. Please check out my site. http://www.cmunkeypunky.com/ There are real images, and I promise all I did to them was draw the circles and the arrow.

Posted by: Kstumpf at August 24, 2005 10:23 PM (6fL6K)

11 You've got some winning commenters here.

Posted by: michele at August 24, 2005 10:44 PM (ht2RK)

12 Dear Sheila What you are truly missing is the fact that Australians have a sense of patriotism which you and your friends evidently have not. A muslim can be of any sex, race or color. They can move freely in society and meet for religious services unimpugned. They can say what they want in their mosque, even if it is (since skin color matters to you so much) "Kill Whitey!" They can do this and no one would care, but what you are blind to is the fact that Muslims have a duty to make any woman named Sheila (by no means a Muslim Name)either join Islam, Pay an Infidel Tax or die. Are you ready to join Islam Sheila? If not, are you willing to die? don't think for a moment that your bleeding heart will save you in the end. The Jihadists couldn't give a sh!t about you and to tell you the truth, neither do we. You are blind from staring @ the sun too long. Come back to earth and you might actually see what is really going on in this world. Love -n- smooches Mychimo Bastards. (bitch) Does this mean all Muslims have to become Christians and bleach their skin? Is that what "embracing Australian values" means? (why do the Christians offend you so?) All these white people are so racist its disgusting. White people can be terrorists to (KKK, Aryan Nation, Bush) (you are the racist. in two sentences you mentioned skin color in relation to Islam, where as you won't find that analogy anywhere around this site. You, darling, cannot understand what we stand for here so you cry RACIST! It's not race, love, Its Ideology.) Love, Mychimo

Posted by: mychimo at August 25, 2005 12:05 AM (Bxnmv)

13 What's a person who hates some or all religions? Religionist doesn't sound right, and Atheist isn't 100% correct, so I figured there might be a word for it I've never heard of...

Posted by: A Finn at August 25, 2005 04:02 AM (cWMi4)

14 And by "western values", don't you mean "christian values"? (if: "No, I don't", name one western (meaning: at least 40% of it is in Europe or Middle-/North-/South-American continent) or English-speaking-fragment-of-British-Empire country that can say it isn't basing it's values on the book or Jeesus in any way.(Albania, dangit...well it's CCCP and still pretty communist, so it doesn't count))

Posted by: A Finn at August 25, 2005 06:27 AM (cWMi4)

15 "When are our elected leaders going to be brave enough to say the same?" I can actually give you the date: The Twelfth of Never.

Posted by: David at August 25, 2005 06:32 AM (ACL5/)

16 Ah, anotjher response to "Sheila"—not racism, dweeb: defense of one's culture against savages and barbarians isn't racism. Two applicable quotes: "Liberalism is a philosophy of consolation for Western Civilization as it commits suicide"—James Burnham "It is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and hang them. Build your funeral pyre and beside it my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your national custom - then we shall follow ours."–Sir Charles Napier, while governor of an "independant" Indian province, speaking of the Indian practice of suttee. Not all cultures are equal. Islam embodies and embues its adjerents with a culture that celebrates brutalizing women, savaging , lying to, and brutally mudering unbelievers. While people who want to embrace those sorts of values certainly have the right to do so, I have the right to say, "Sod off, camel buggers!" And to actively defend myself from such savages any damned way I seem necessary. Including encouraging the ball-less doofs who inhabit toe political class to enforce the borders, expell the savages and wreak havoc upon their heads when they attempt to (or even actively plan) to bring their barbarian savagry to my back yard. Now, get this through your SLS (Self-induced Liberalist Scotomata): none of that is in any way, shape, fashion or form racist. I don't care one single, solitary bit WHAT race an Islamist is. If they intend to import their "values" into my neck of the woods, then they'd better understqand the principle Sir Charles Napier stated: I'll enforce MY values right down their throats. terminally, if necessary. In self-defense.

Posted by: David at August 25, 2005 06:44 AM (ACL5/)

17 Greyrooster. Thanks for the info. I suspect that pain is felt much earlier than that, too. Rusty: Great post. I may start buying Foster's to celebrate.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 25, 2005 07:25 AM (x+5JB)

18 I think this is a far tougher issue for a country that still holds its religous freedoms as absolute. I don't know about Australia, but my understanding about Europe is that religion is not seen as important. My opinion only, of course.

Posted by: Defense Guy at August 25, 2005 01:18 PM (jPCiN)

19 All Western countries should adopt Australia's mantra. Britain is half way there. We'll never get there because of our political correctness, the ACLU, and some Federal judges.

Posted by: Pat A at August 25, 2005 03:27 PM (YyWmH)

20 It's true I am in no way a racist. The only thing I hate is Islam. If you love it Sheila, go and get yourself an oppressive Islamic husband who you can share with one or 2 other women.

Posted by: Jester at August 25, 2005 03:58 PM (2FYdV)

21 In saying adopt to "western values" they say that Muslims must give up their own rich history in favor to become more white. Is that not what western means? White? The west is majority white, if you have forgotten. I live there. So really I am not "unpatriotic." I have no allegiance to Australia, but to my own country. I admit I cried racist, my mistake. Sorry...but some of you need to realize that I have a lot of difficulties living in the midwest. Because of the vast ignorance of many, my dark skin is always confused for black (I am indian). I have encountered racism and hatred. Maybe you haven't maybe you have. I know that there is a lot of hostility towards whites nowadays, just as much as to any other race. If my comments offended you, sorry. But the prime ministers words offend me just as much.

Posted by: Sheila at August 25, 2005 09:50 PM (hKK+H)

22 Sabeer al khayr, Sheila As a German I often went to Holland. Dutch people hate germans. I did not get served in Restaurants, a lady in a ticket booth heard me talking and put a sign 'closed' just in front of me, my car tyres have been slicedm, asking for directions I ended up in some very curious parts of Amsterdam, water for an overheating car has been denied to me, and on and on and on. I live in the US now for 12 years and I never ever heard a bad word nor a curious comment. I find that remarkable and I have a good part of my friends who are jewish. I also worked for some time in the south of the US (building and testing fiber optic rings) and had no real clue aobut the relationsship between blacks and whites over there. For me they were just people. You hear some grumbling over there (from whites and from blacks) but the dealings with each other as far as I could see were not racist but pretty fair. Races have their differences. Acknowledging them doesn't mean to put down another race. It simply means there are differences. Individuals have different talents some are enforced by your culture others are not. People are entitled to their prejudices, that's how they see the world. (you do too, one cannot without, that's nonsense)((you may have the prejudice that everybody is equal which is not true, people have the same value and the same rights but that doesn't mean they are equal in the sense of indivduality). Every race believes they are superior to others (mostly based on the valuesystem of their culture). That is just so. To call white americans racist is easy but to my experience that is not true. I have/had friends in Holland and I told them sometimes about things which I experienced. They were emberassed. As I liked my friends I didn't tell them anymore. If you apply some takt it pays back. If you run around with a club written racist on it what do you think what kind of response you get? If a muslim believes I am poor devil and he is way superior what do you think what kind of reactions he gets? If you read in the Koran how Muslim should deal with non-muslim what do you think will be the reaction to it? To classify the reaction and trying to stop it is futile. It is better to work on the reasons for this reaction. Most people try simply to get along with everybody else. They have their little judgements and prejudices and whatever. That's just fine. But to believe in a cult which calls for murder that is not fine anymore that's no joke. What you think privately is nobodies business but how we get along as people is everybodies business and to call for murder demands a strong reaction. Those people need to be ostrazised and kicked out of the community. They are poison. A muslim has no good reason to come to the US. The constitution and Islam is simply not compatible. Islam is against the constitution, against the very fundamentals of life in the US. For what reason does a muslim come to the US and still wants to be a muslim? I don't know whether you are Hindu or not but in the Mahabarata, in the Bagavad Gita (The evening before the great battle) Arjuna has doubts about the war, he does not want to fight his relatives who ursurped the throne. Krishna gave him the arrow and told him to fight. Let's fight the people who want to ursurp the throne and do the evil which in their souls.

Posted by: Werner at August 26, 2005 12:05 AM (s+oWa)

23 Look out aussies the liberals and the ACLU will be on your tails faster then you can say gaday

Posted by: sandpiper at August 27, 2005 05:32 PM (qMAo+)

24 Sheila: Jealous of those white people aren't you. Too bad you can't be one of the beautiful people. What did your people contribute to civilization? "Indian and confused for black"? You are full of shit. Grow up. Indians are such crybabies it's disgusting. How's that sound the other way around? You're a racist. And without the courage to admit it. At least I do. Werner: Good article. "if you run around with a club with racist written on it, what response do you get" YOU WOULD BE SURPRISED. 90% will admire you and pat you on the back when others aren't looking. Why when others aren't looking? Because 10% of the fishermen catch 90% of the fish and 10% of the men have 90% of the balls. JESTER: Say what? The many wives thing is the only good thing about Islam. I think my hard working wife needs some help around the house. Particularly if they are well built long legged blondes aged 25 to 35. Just thinking of the old lady. DAVID: Right on. Calling racist is nothing more than an excuse for ones own failure. A FINN: When you use the word HATE. The word is assholeist.

Posted by: greyrooster at August 27, 2005 11:44 PM (CBNGy)

25 ok. time for all of you to take a break. i'll be ruling the world in 10 days and i make the laws there will no religion no humanity. Just me and the wild life.

Posted by: Caesar at September 10, 2005 01:07 PM (lVdP3)

26 ok. time for all of you to take a break. i'll be ruling the world in 10 days and i make the laws there will no religion no mankind. Just me and the wild life.

Posted by: Caesar at September 10, 2005 01:08 PM (lVdP3)

27 You are all horrible. im 16 and cant belive adults are talking like this about people in our society!!! whats your big problem everyone belives in something diffrent! if we were all the same wouldn't we be boring? one of my best friends is muslim and she belongs in this country just as much as you or i!!!!

Posted by: Jessica at September 13, 2005 03:11 AM (UoOtu)

28 Hey, shut the fuck up Jessica, you don't know about muslims they are all the same (Cruel). I've had experiences, you are just 16 so go to your room and do your homework.

Posted by: Caesar at September 13, 2005 08:50 PM (/2yj5)

29 A word about terrorists .. These UNSTABLE FUNDAMENTALIST EXTREMEISTS twist the words of their texts to suit themselves! Most Muslim people donÂ’t condone terrorism and believe that murder for any reason, religious or otherwise, is unacceptable. The sad fact is, people these days think that these extremeists are actually SPOKESPEOPLE for their religion! Let me tell you, they are not! They are sad fuck-ups who manipulate a particular faith and use it to carry out their own sadistic desires! What really upsets me the most is that, in the end, it doesnÂ’t matter about the words/beliefs/actions of the majority of the civilised, humane Muslim community; in the end itÂ’s the extremist insanity cases which we pay attention to. I think itÂ’s so wrong that so many Muslim people go through all this discrimination when they didnÂ’t do shit in the first place. Now there's my nice part .. oh yes .. and I almost forgot .. Most of you are fucking racist cunts. Except for a few, you're all fucking ignorant, believing what the media and idiots like G.W.Bush Jessica, Sheila, I support you guys. Caesar you obviously don't know shit about shit. Why don't you just go wank off in your room, no one cares. Greyrooster, when ur so-called 'founding fathers' talked about freedom of religion they were talking about FUCKING FREEDOM OF RELIGION, PERIOD, none ov ur ifs and unlesses and reservations bs. And no Jester, letting Muslims build Mosques is not a crime against humanity you shit-for-brains assfucker. Oppressing someone because of their race/religion etc is a crime against humanity - MAYBE THAT'S WHY THE UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS CONDEMNS IT? You should check out that document for yourself/. Oh yes, haha, i forgot, you're an illiterate whoreson. Mychimo - Oh yes, woohoo for patriotism. I'm all for the good things in Oz like our mateship etc., but all patriotism is the last resort of the scoundrel. You wankers can post some 'reply' shit after i do this, but i wont care, because this site is even more degenerate than the morals of half of you, and that's saying something.

Posted by: x3 at September 18, 2005 06:04 AM (+HmT4)

30 X3: How dare you to speak to a ruler like that, I'll throw you to the lions.... are you a muslim? do you like muslims? anyway let me tell you something 1)never ever use swears against me. 2)If you like muslims or want to support them, go suck their dick and die in Iraq. 3)Muslims are a greatest mistake god had ever made among mankind. I think the ideas of hitler should be used in America, every Muslim should be put in camps and should be shot to death. Go Die with Muslims you bitches (sheila, Jessica) as for X3 i'm not sure if you are a male or a female, i'll just have to consider you as homosexual and you don't fit to live in the western world.

Posted by: Caesar at September 18, 2005 08:58 PM (BjVgA)

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