December 17, 2005

Ah, Vinnie, Vinnie...

Jawadewan Vinnie lambasts those "seditious bastards" at the New York Times who leaked the information about U.S. surveillance of terrorists, and then feign shock at the idea a U.S. President might actually order surveillance of an American citizen suspected of terrorism.

Vinnie, Vinnie, Vinnie. I think that's terrible what the President did, spying on those Americans without their knowledge. Why, he ought to be impeached.

Oh wait, he was impeached--although not for his decision to have military satellites scan the Elohim City (Oklahoma) white-suprematard compound right after the Murrah Building bombing in 1995. President Clinton's boys didn't get a warrant before they went a peepin', either.

I'm waiting for the gasps of outrage from folks like Chuck Hagel and Arlen Specter and the anti-Patriot Act crowd. And I'm dead certain the New York Times hacked up a gigantic hairball of screeching outrage over the Clinton administration's unwarranted use of spy satellites on Americans in America. I just can't seem to find it.

After all, for anyone who reads a Tom Clancy novel, the idea that the NSA will sniff at incoming calls and e-mails is nothing particularly new. But those spy satellites...wow. Brave New World ya got there, Bill.

It is fascinating to me that the actual thorughly researched f---ing news being broken here is delivered by the McCurtain Daily Gazette, out of Idabel. Oklahoma (and those of you from around Oklahoma will know that Idabel, God bless it, is not exactly Manhattan). Contrast that with the recycled and misleading product placement thrown up by the Old, Gray, Seditious Bastard Lady of 47th Street.

I'm off to Tashi Station to pick up some power converters for Christmas, so the bloggery will be light from me until aught-six. Y'all have a good one.

Posted by: seedubya at 01:15 AM | Comments (11) | Add Comment
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1 Agent Smith says the Architect IS the NSA, and he sees EVERYTHING!

Posted by: Agent Smith at December 17, 2005 01:52 AM (oC6D4)

2 While you seem to think that spying of government on US citizen is a minor sacrifice for security, it in fact, is at the heart of American freedom and justice. I believe you have lost site of the forest for the trees! I suggest you re-read the history of the Revolutionary War and the events leading up to it. It will give you some perspective on just what the concept of the theory of American freedom really is. The Founding Fathers never trusted government, most especially big government. Yet we continue to amass a huge impersonal beauracracy who care little about our history or our freedom. Richard of Danbury

Posted by: Richard of Danbury at December 17, 2005 06:51 AM (EQOH7)

3 "Idabel Oklahoma, God bless it, is not exactly Manhattan" And that's a Damn good thing too!! It's bad enough to share a border with Oklahoma, but being that close to Manhattan would be enough for Texas to change its Boarder patrol priorities! Texhoss

Posted by: Texhoss at December 17, 2005 08:26 AM (6mUkl)

4 So Richard, who did you vote for last election?

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at December 17, 2005 09:13 AM (0yYS2)

5 Due note he said Manhattan and not New York City - a distinction any New Yorker can easily understand and appreciate. The Last Diehard Staten Island Seperatist!

Posted by: hondo at December 17, 2005 10:55 AM (3aakz)

6 I can understand the hooplah over the invasion of privacy . And I'm glad there's some very healthy debate going on over it. I'm just at a loss over what else to do without hamstringing the government's ability to get these guys before they get us. Because they ARE in this country and they DO want to kill us. I don't want to sacrifice untold lives just to protect some privacy. But at the same time, I don't want the government in my private life. Somewhere, there is a delicate balance between, say, the complete supression of Able Danger's information and all out violation of anyone's private life and what could be the result of unfettered government intrusion.

Posted by: Oyster at December 17, 2005 01:33 PM (YudAC)

7 Well they've already hamstrung the way the United States armed forces fights wars, then the way CIA/MIA can do interrogations, why not leave us completely dead in the water with no method of surveillance against enemies, foreign and domestic. How about a bill that declares surveilling Mosques unconstitutional under Freedom of Religion.

Posted by: dave at December 17, 2005 02:24 PM (CcXvt)

8 I'm sure CAIR and its dhimmicrat supporters are working on that right now as we speak.

Posted by: jesusland joe at December 17, 2005 02:38 PM (rUyw4)

9 I call on you all to note that Richard, aka "Dick", did not answer as to the question of for whom he voted.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at December 18, 2005 01:02 AM (0yYS2)

10 Maximus, I voted the Constitution Party ticket! Richard of Danbury

Posted by: Richard of Danbury at December 18, 2005 06:59 AM (EQOH7)

11 Constitution party? That's almost as bad as my vote for the Libertarians. Thanks for the reply, sorry to have to taunt you out.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at December 18, 2005 10:40 AM (0yYS2)

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