March 24, 2006
Afghan Christian May Be Freed
Abdul Rahman, the Afghan who converted from Islam to Christianity and was threatened with death under sharia law for apostasy, may be released soon.
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From Agence France Presse:
An Afghan Christian facing possible execution for converting from Islam was likely to be released from jail "soon," a senior government official said following huge Western pressure over the case.The sharia law against apostasy does not specify that a Muslim who converts only to Christianity must be punished. The "crime" is leaving Islam, regardless of what faith the apostate then embraces."He is likely to be released soon," the official said, adding there would be a top-level meeting on the matter Saturday.
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Likely he'll be killed in the streets by his fellow citizens who happen to be of the "religion of peace" persuasion.
Posted by: Ernie Oporto at March 24, 2006 04:33 PM (/lpvu)
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I'd be thankful if he's released and is willing, given the means, to leave the country for another. I'm wondering if that may end up even being a requirement.
Posted by: Javapuke at March 24, 2006 05:23 PM (OOrBj)
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He should DEFECT like people running away from the former Soviet union. Go find an American Military Establishment and ask for political and religeous asylum.
Posted by: The Gunny at March 24, 2006 05:24 PM (UItaE)
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One thing that would stop this from the religion of peace would be if muslims clerics where taken and decapitated. If enough of them get a taste of a blade to their necks they'd think twice. Muslims are like a stuborn mule that needs to be hit between the eyes with a 2x4 to get it to move.
Posted by: Andre at March 24, 2006 06:51 PM (/u+1F)
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What is so stupid about this whole damn thing... He converted 16 years ago, while in Germany.
Posted by: Ariya at March 24, 2006 06:59 PM (yHb0A)
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I saw my Great Grandfather do that to his mule, that did not want to get harnessed to the plow. After he lifted that 2 by 4 up in the air, that mule calmed down real fast. I suppose my Great Grandfather had hit that mule in the past, and the mule remembered it. That five acres got plowed with no problem after that. Maybe it would work with those moon god worshippers too.
That sticks in my mind to this day.
Posted by: Leatherneck at March 24, 2006 07:01 PM (D2g/j)
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I think that this problem really serves to underscore the seriousness of the problem that the united states faces with bringing democracy to Kabul. The U.S. view of freedom of religion is a much different than that of Kabul. In Kabul their community finds it acceptable to vote a government into office, and then if that government enacts laws based on the muslim Koran those laws will be enforced.
Posted by: Teething problems in Kabul at March 24, 2006 07:46 PM (PhGSN)
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"An Afghan Christian facing possible execution for converting from Islam was likely to be released from jail "soon," a senior government official said following huge Western pressure over the case"
I hope to God he is "released" like the Christian Peacemaker or whatever they were called in Iraq were "released" In Afganistan that would mean "released" by a platoon of Rangers or Marines with guns blazing.
Hearing how the people for whom the USA spent its blood and treasure on treat those with different religious beliefs is enough to turn me into one of those "go to Hell Conservatives that I read about at NRO earlier in the week!
Posted by: Kent at March 24, 2006 07:59 PM (8xG54)
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Released soon........Hm. To perhaps, walk the streets of Kabul, alone? I don't think so. Those ROP boys have some really fun stuff planned for him, and it will be done very publicly.
If you thought beheading was inhuman, wait 'til you see what they do to him. (If we don't give him safe passage out of there.)
Posted by: n.a. palm at March 24, 2006 08:30 PM (ZRUjY)
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Teething, why don't you admit that it is the whole of Islam that is the problem. The religion itself is barbaric as practiced by the vast majority of its adherants. Bringing democracy to any Islamic nation is next to impossible. One wonders what is to be done with these people, as they seem to reject the ideas of the modern world.
Posted by: jesusland joe at March 24, 2006 08:35 PM (rUyw4)
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I hope this man finds safety. And soon. And I think he's shown the necessary wherewithal to merit a little help from the coalition. I do get tired of the extreme responses though from both ends of the spectrum. It's always either "blow 'em to hell, they'd do the same" or "if we were just a little nicer..."
There's a reasonable and correct response to every action taken by these whack-job extremists. Sometimes force is needed and sometimes reason can be applied. The art is knowing when to do what. In this case, a great deal of focus on this gentleman has produced some response from his oppressors, but he's not out of the woods yet.
It truly is a shame though, that diplomacy is necessary in these instances, because common sense is such a commodity in that part of the world.
What are the odds that he'll show more gratitude than the CPT group has if he is freed? I think we know the answer to that. Sad but true.
Posted by: Oyster at March 24, 2006 09:06 PM (YudAC)
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The whole thing looked staged to me.
Basically, an "ally" is helping us vilify Muslims.
If they were really going to kill this guy, they wouldn't have paraded him on TV, allowing him to espouse his apostasy to the whole world.
To paraphrase Karl RoveÂ…
"We create reality and when you think you know what reality is, we change it."
Posted by: Greg at March 24, 2006 10:07 PM (q5wwn)
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Staged? No. Just Islam. Maybe this will serve as a reality check.
Posted by: REMF at March 24, 2006 11:43 PM (7RMSi)
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Even after the resolution of this particular case the overall problem will remain. There are not a great many apostates in Afghanistan but there are others. And I expect more to appear for a variety of reasons and agendas. The entire dociety and culture must be modernized. That is an education issue.
Posted by: john Ryan at March 25, 2006 12:02 AM (TcoRJ)
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>>>>>If they were really going to kill this guy, they wouldn't have paraded him on TV, allowing him to espouse his apostasy to the whole world.
Clearly you're a member of the "reality-based" community where a cigar is never just a cigar and the obvious answer is always wrong.
Executing apostates publicly serves their purposes by letting it serve as a lesson to other would-be apostates. Executing someone in secret kinda defeats the purpose.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at March 25, 2006 01:19 AM (8e/V4)
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WTF?
Posted by: REMF at March 25, 2006 05:49 AM (7RMSi)
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Don't worry about it REMF, it's just another libtard troll, one of greg's friends no doubt, displaying his IQ for everyone to see. I've actually come to enjoy it, because it exposes the leftards for what they are and what they've got: Nothing.
In any event, don't let it bother you, because we'll hang them all soon enough.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at March 25, 2006 07:13 AM (0yYS2)
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Well I think we should strike his neck, brother 
Posted by: REMF at March 25, 2006 07:51 AM (7RMSi)
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As per usual, money talks.
Hope he goes free.
Where do all of these retard trolls come from Rusty?
Posted by: Dick at March 25, 2006 08:21 AM (XlQVK)
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Hey, guys?
Democracy is democracy, right?
Good job, Bush. Give barbarians a chance to form their own laws and government. Next time just leave the place alone instead of sacrificing brave American soldiers on the alter of Islamic Fascism.
Posted by: MiB at March 25, 2006 12:15 PM (XRlh2)
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Gladly.
Posted by: Oyster at March 25, 2006 01:04 PM (V9juS)
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The IDIOT who wrote hang me needs to be SHOT!!!
PUNK!!!!
anyways HA HA ISLAM...
pWn3D
Posted by: billy faeth at March 25, 2006 01:44 PM (Lc35u)
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SPECIAL NOTE: Our pet troll actually "communicated" with us at Vince Aut Morire the other night. Turns out he's a Leftist who considers all American soldiers to be murderers, hates conservative blogs, and...there was a very broad hint that he...pleasures himself while posting his "numbers".
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at March 25, 2006 02:25 PM (RHG+K)
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Carlos: "Executing apostates publicly"
What execution? All I saw was a staged PR piece that serves the American agenda.
They are not going to execute this guy and Bush can take credit for it. It's a political homerun for Bush.
Posted by: Greg at March 25, 2006 02:30 PM (q5wwn)
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I pray that this man will be released and permitted to flee to safety in a civilized country, but I suspect that this will end in a martyr's crown. I think one way he may be saved is if American muslim organizations use their authority to free him. However, I don't hold much hope in that either.
Posted by: Asgerd at March 25, 2006 03:21 PM (FAzNe)
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Haha. Greg is still subscribing to Alex Jones' conspiracy theories. The obvious is never the truth. There's a conspiracy in everything and Bush is behind it all. Oh yeah, and Rove. Hey Greg, we're really all communists here and we're pulling you into our trap. We only say the things we do so you'll keep hating republicans and conservatives and lean even more left and help us eventually rule the world. Muhahaha!
Posted by: Oyster at March 25, 2006 07:08 PM (YudAC)
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MiB:
Good job, Bush. Give barbarians a chance to form their own laws and government. Next time just leave the place alone instead of sacrificing brave American soldiers on the alter of Islamic Fascism.
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Good job, Bush. Give barbarians a chance to form their own laws and government. Next time just flatten the place into glass instead of sacrificing brave American soldiers on the alter of Islamic Fascism.
Fixed it for you, MiB.
Posted by: MegaTroopX at March 26, 2006 03:38 PM (yT/Rw)
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"Next time just leave the place alone..." - OMG, this has got to be the most ignorant comment ever made at Jawa.
Just leave the Taliban and the al Qaeda training camps in place?
Ooookay, MiB.
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at March 26, 2006 03:56 PM (RHG+K)
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