June 14, 2006

A Closed-minded Conservative Speaks

I repeat here a comment I received from some left-winger a while back. It was in response to something I wrote. I don't recall what I wrote, exactly. Frankly, it could've been just about anything I've written in the last two years. At any rate, this is what the lefty had to say to me:

You sound bitter, but more importantly, you sound unwilling to listen to an opinion other than one in agreeance with yours. You also seem eager to use terms like "leftist" and "peace" in a derogatory manner.
I started to read the above, but then the part of my brain I've programmed to not read anything which doesn't agree with my preconceived opinion preemptively whited out from my vision everything between "more importantly" and "You also seem." so as to prevent me from having to view a dissenting opinion. ... Since I'm unable to read it, I can only guess at what it may say. But I presume it says something to the effect that I'm a closed-minded bigot or some such tired and overworn lefty insult.

As to whether I'm "bitter", I'm not sure how "bitter" differs from "angry". There's no doubt I'm angry, and I'd like to know what lifeless shell isn't angry these days. I live in a country that spent the middle of the 20th century driving fascists from Western Europe and Asia and the last half of it keeping the Communists out of Western Europe and Korea, the country that, more than any other, drove the Soviet Union into a financial bankruptcy to match its ideological bankruptcy, and has been a beacon of hope to millions around the world for much of its 230 year history.

Our fathers and brothers and sons have fought and bled and died on foreign soil around the world so that others, people of other races, creeds and religions, might live lives of freedom and prosperity. Hundreds of thousands of Americans are in graves, in wheelchairs, on prosthetic limbs and on life support in order that the people of this place or that place might be free of fascism, Communism or Islamism or some other oppressive nutbag-ism that would tell those people who they are to be and what they may say, and what they are to think. For all its flaws, this country is a freakin' MIRACLE, and I want you to freakin' ACKNOWLEDGE IT.

This country spent the better part of the last century standing up against real fascism and the guys with the real gulags. If you don't know what a "real gulag" is, go read about the fun things that happened in Soviet Russia under Lenin and Stalin. If you want to understand real fascism, go study all those lovely projects they came up with in Nazi Germany. These were really bad places controlled by really bad people. In the fascist version of "suppression of speech," the speakers themselves disappeared, not just their ratings and quarterly sales figures. The real fascists did real torture. "Real torture" is where they do really sweet things like pull out your fingernails with pliers and smash your toes with hammers, nice things like that. This nation has given much to the effort to oppose these things, and for very good reasons.

My lefty friend commented that I tend to use the terms "leftist" and "peace" in a negative way. I certainly hope so. I use these terms in the most negative way possible, consistent with the full measure of derision that they deserve. Leftists, and by this term I mean true leftists, are responsible for the deaths of over 100 million people in this century alone. Hundreds of millions more have been forced to live in a slave-like existence that the left has wrought on Earth. Whatever there may be to commend equality, I submit that this is a pretty heavy weight on the "negative" side of the scale. And yes, I know there are those that claim to be "warm fuzzy" leftists--all the equality, none of the firing squads. Problem is, they've had their chance to distance themselves from the hard-edged communists for most of the last century, and most chose not to do so. Tell me who your friends are, and I know who you are.

For at least the last 40 years, the principle of "peace" has been very selectively applied by the "peace" movement. With respect to the term "peace," it is now well beyond reasonable dispute that the easiest way to identify the KGB front organization in your town in the 1980s was to find the largest "grassroots community" group incorporating the word "peace" in its name. That was almost guaranteed to be a Soviet-backed group. We suspected it at the time, and now we have the proof.

What kind of nonsense is it to say you're consistently "pro-peace" or "anti-war?" That's like being "anti-fire." In order to be 100% pro-peace above everything else, one would have to be willing to accept a lot of unpleasant things in one's perfectly "peaceful" world, including the continuation of black slavery in the American South, the complete extermination of European Jews, a unified Korea under the leadership of Kim Jong-Il and a Kuwait dominated by Saddam Hussein, as a few examples. We didn't go to war in Rwanda. That worked out well. Happy now? Point is, like it or not, war often does solve things. True, sometimes war is meaningless. But often, and particularly when the U.S. is involved, war has a purpose, and while ugly and terrible in its execution, is the right thing to do. Anyone who is unwilling, or unable, to accept this is simply a moron.

So yes, I am ANGRY. I'm ANGRY because so many people today claim to not be able to see the difference between Adolf Hitler and George Bush. I'm ANGRY because so many people claim to not be able to see the difference between a Soviet Gulag and an American military prison that does unspeakably brutal things like putting panties on a man's head. I'm ANGRY because so many people claim to see moral equivalence between a thug like Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi, who intentionally murdered Iraqi civilians by the dozen, and George Washington. I'm ANGRY because the people who claim to see the world this way are in any way taken seriously.

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1 Wow !! I knew that POTUS had really low poll numbers but I had no idea that a significantly large part of the population could not see the difference between Bush and Hitler. What exactly do you mean by "so many people" ? Do you mean like "one thousand" or "ten thousand" or one hundred thousand" because if you do those really aren't significant in a population of almost 300 million. If, however, you mean the 50% plus that disapprove of the way that he is doing his job, well that is really not the same as comparing him to Hitler. These numbers taken from the latest Wall Street Journal sponsored poll.http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000087&sid=aeYoRkJORysQ&refer=top_world_news

Posted by: john ryan at June 14, 2006 08:51 PM (TcoRJ)

2 Mr. John Ryan: Whether it was 1, 10, 100, 1000 or 10,000, it makes no difference because the ones making the comparison have the ear of the media and the result is that it sounds like ALL 50% that disapprove...wait...disapprove of WHAT? Like you or any of the other 50% that disapprove have ONE, JUST ONE, reasonable suggestion to offer. Four years and the 50% that disapprove are nothing more than self-righteous whiners without anything constructive to offer. Rusty, sorry...but Mr. Ryan, go sit in a corner and shut up. Let the adults work.

Posted by: tracy coyle at June 14, 2006 09:28 PM (x2eBy)

3 I'm ANGRY because so many people today claim to not be able to see the difference between Adolf Hitler and George Bush. Took the words right out of my mouth. It's like the death of common sense. Lefties have "nuanced" it out of existence. Common sense is for the peasants, i.e., in Lefty's mind-- most Americans. Welcome to the post-modern hellhole of the Left where once-powerful words and ideas have been reduced to empty rhetoric and punchlines. Fascism? meh, it's all relative. Bush, Hitler, What's the diff. They're both rich white hetero-centric males, aren't they? One man's fascist is another man's Republican.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at June 14, 2006 10:19 PM (8e/V4)

4 >>>Problem is, they've had their chance to distance themselves from the hard-edged communists for most of the last century, and most chose not to do so. Tell me who your friends are, and I know who you are. Yup. They're still apologizing for Castro, even today, and they coddle up to him whenever they get the chance. Didn't Steven Spielberg call him the greatest man he'd ever met, or some such nonsense? Jack Nicholson calls Castro a genius. And some other Leftwing hollywood wackjob called him an "inspiration to the world." Hollywood LOVES the guy. These are the same people that undermined conservative hawks for 50 years during the cold war against the Soviets. They're doing the same thing now in the war against terror. EXACTLY the same thing.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at June 14, 2006 10:25 PM (8e/V4)

5 Mr. Ryan: I have read and reread this post and I for one do not see where "POTUS really low poll numbers" were even mentioned. Did you read the same post I did? What the post said, from my own reading, is that the writer was angry about yellow curs like yourself likening Bush to Hitler. Do you even know enough history to know what Hitler did? Stalin? Pol Pot? Kim Il Sung? He is angry because the United States has fought two world wars, a Korean Conflict, two wars in the gulf, and numerous other places that are only footnotes in a history book and as Colin Powell once said, "We ask for no foreign ground other than that to bury our dead." He is angry because someone like you does not understand the difference in war and peace. Talk a moment to note the following quote from John Stuart Mill: "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war, is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight; nothing he cares about more than his own personal safety; is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." So by that I cn see where you have placed yourself in the pecking order.

Posted by: SShiell at June 14, 2006 10:57 PM (nb8Jl)

6 What happened is that while the “hard” Marxism of the Soviet Union may have collapsed, at least for now, the “soft” Marxism of the Western Left has actually grown stronger, in part because we deemed it to be less threatening. The “hard” Marxists had intercontinental nuclear missiles and openly said that they would “bury” us. The soft Marxists talk about tolerance and may seem less threatening, but their goal of overthrowing the evil, capitalist West remains the same. In fact, they are more dangerous precisely because they hide their true goals under different labels. Perhaps we should call it “stealth Socialism” instead of soft Socialism. Not only has Marxism survived, it is thriving and has in some ways grown stronger. Leftist ideas about Multiculturalism and de-facto open borders have achieved a virtual hegemony in public discourse, their critics vilified and demonized. By hiding their intentions under labels such as “anti-racism” and “tolerance,” Leftists have achieved a degree of censorship of public discourse they could never have dreamt of had they openly stated that their intention was to radically transform Western civilization and destroy its foundations. ~~ Theodore Dalrymple http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2006/06/political-correctness-revenge-of.html

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at June 14, 2006 11:00 PM (8e/V4)

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