"The word 'Islam' means peace," insisted Rafiq Hayat, national president of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Association U.K. "But we have to live by it in order to grow," he warned, in quotes picked up by the Washington Times.
A YouGov survey commissioned by the London Telegraph last week, however, shows that Hayat and other pro-Western Muslim leaders are facing an uphill battle.
Twenty-four percent of 500 Muslims responding said they sympathize with the suicide bombers. More troubling still, 6 percent said the attacks were necessary.
These "believers" ought not worry about the infidels describing them as promoters of violence and terrorist sympathizers, they validate the accusations by their own shameless admissions.
Men breakdown after viewing a tortured relative's body at the Yarmouk hospital, Monday, Aug. 1, 2005, in Baghdad, Iraq. Iraqi police discovered the tortured bodies of 12 men in an open field of garbage in the Um Al-Maalif area of south Baghdad. Relatives of the victims say that insurgents dressed as police came yesterday and took the twelve men away. (AP Photo/Mohammed Uraibi)
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Why is it Muslims continue to interchange the origins of the word Islam?
It does not mean peace it means to 'submit', as in submit to the will of God.
Ever since September 11th, I've heard Islam referred to as meaning 'peace' before that it was always 'Submit' what gives?
Posted by: dave at August 01, 2005 09:46 AM (DO6vD)
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Islam does mean 'peace', but it's peace with God, not necessarily man. To jihadists, peace with God requires them to be at emnity with infidels.
Posted by: Carlos at August 01, 2005 09:52 AM (8e/V4)
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Lets Get Ready To Deporrrrttttttttttttttt!!!!!!!
Posted by: THANOS35 at August 01, 2005 12:35 PM (9gFP6)
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Qur'an 9:5 "When the sacred forbidden months for fighting are past, fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, torture them, and lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."
/ religiong of peace my ass
Posted by: princesskimberley at August 01, 2005 03:12 PM (LNA9X)
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Inspired by 'the word Islam means peace', I found out what Christ-ianity means. Apparently, Christ also/originally means 'anointed', and anointed means that an oil or ointment has been applied... So Christianity is 'idea to apply ointment'. So it's a healing religion. Yay! More wounds to heal means more Christianity needed, so that everyone becomes Christian, 'person who has the ointment applied on already'. Finally, a good explanation to why Christians are baptised. After all, water is the oldest of all ointments. (
Vesi vanhin voitehista, don't know if there's a saying in English about it...)
Posted by: A Finn at August 01, 2005 03:32 PM (lGolT)
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Thank you Princess, many more need to become familiar with the Koran. After 9/11, I decided that I needed to know more about the Koran, and found it to be very scary. Many verses command the faithful to kill and plunder the infidel.
That wouldn't necessarily be a problem if Islam had been remade to exist in the modern world. However, when the Koran is taught in many places in the world, the student is taught that he is to interpret it literally. Therefore, such things as slavery, plunder, lack of rights for women, war against the infidel, and rejecting friendship with a non-Muslim are taught.
That, along with propaganda about how the West is persecuting Muslims seen 24/7 on Al-Jezeera and other Arab networks, has the ordinary Muslim up in arms and ready to join the jihad.
The current state of affairs is the result, and one wonders what the end of it will be. However, I will do what I can to stem the flow, and that's all anyone can do.
Posted by: jesusland joe at August 01, 2005 04:39 PM (DDXXI)
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I'd like to thank all those of you expressing your support for us here in London. It's nice to know we're not alone.
I'd like to make an observation about the recurring threat here in London. Following 9/11, how many attacks have there been in the US? Nil!
In London, we have been attacked twice in the space of two weeks and are being advised to expect further attacks.
I think the reason behind this is our government's insistence on putting human rights, free speech and civil liberties above the basic right to life.
9% of British Muslims are sympathetic to the London Bombers. That's 45,000 people. Even if only 1% of those are fanatical enough to contemplate jihad, that means there are another 450 home grown bombers waiting to strike. We have so far tracked down 8 (4 suicide bombers and 4 in custody).
Also we are consistently told by our government to carry on as normal and show that we are not afraid and that we will not be terrorised. That's OK for Tony Blair and his buddies to say but they don't have to travel on the London Transport System. They have armed guards and chauffeur driven cars.
I am very afraid ! So much so that I am aiming to build up clients for my accountancy business as soon as possible so that I can work from home rather than in the city.
We have tolerated this Islamic evil for too long but our politically correct government would rather stand up for the terrorists and their sympathisers than for decent law abiding British citizens.
Posted by: Lloyd at August 02, 2005 08:56 AM (mxFdI)
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Lloyd
Never a truer word spoken
Posted by: Sparky at August 03, 2005 05:33 PM (F1nba)
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BAN ISLAM IN WESTERN COUNTRIES! That is the only way we will ever get along with the believers in this, backward religion founded for no other reason that hatred and jealousy of the West. We will never be able to live in peace with these people.
Posted by: greyrooster at August 05, 2005 07:19 PM (/rKIG)
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