April 07, 2005

Pulitzer Judge (update: NOT) Embedded With North Vietnamese

Think this photo is bad?

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I got my ass fact checked!!!

It turns out the photos in question were not taken by Baughman, instead, this is from a book reviewed by Baughman. So, where was the confusion? Google. I did a Google image search and the bulk of photos that came back for 'J. Ross Baughman' were these.

My apologies. One of the advantages this site has that we can try to repair the damage, right here, in the text of the original post. As opposed to, say, footnote on page A2.

But from that review we learn of Baughman's 'nuanced' vision of war and the media's role in it:

It is these pictures of Jane Fonda or Fidel Castro squired around by smiling NVA, or else the captured, wounded and dead ARVN or U.S. troops that will boil the blood of many American viewers. For them, it will still be too soon to see such pictures.

"The trick here is see beyond the propaganda of the pictures into a different culture," writes Pulitzer-Prize-winning photo critic Henry Allen in the foreword.

Right, let's look beyond acts of treason which demoralized our troops.
Given enough time and distance, old warriors can't help but want to know their enemies better. The anger and fear of battle mature into a clear-eyed, grudging respect, no matter which side happened to win that day long ago.
See how nuance works? You mature to respect your enemy.

What Baughman dismisses in this article is the role of media images in demoralizing troops and support for those troops back home.

He suggests, in his review, that the reason the Vietnamese won that war was that they were simply more prepared to persevere.

Indeed.

But why were Americans not willing to persevere? Why were Americans not willing to commit to total war against North Vietnam, as they had in WWII? Why were we not willing to fight the war to win?

Certainly, the images brought to the American public by the media played some part. In WWII the media played the role of cheerleader. Helping to keep morale up both at home and with the troops. From the time of Vietnam forward, however, the media played no such role.

The next time we go to war the American public must realize this simple fact: the American media does not really care if our side wins.

They do not necessarily wish us to lose, they do not necessarily want our soldiers to die, but they also could care less if we win. It seems to me that the greatest sacrifice one can ask of a fellow citizen is to die in war. If the state can legitimately ask a fellow citizen to do this, then certainly it can ask the media to refrain from publishing photos which might demoralize our troops.

Oh, it gets worse. Much worse. It turns out J. Ross Baughman, one of the judges of the Pulitzer also was embedded with the North Vietnamese. He wanted to show, you know, the 'other side of the war'. You know, the side that was busy killing Baughman's friends from back home.

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Photo above takes you to a few more images of the Vietnam war as seen through the eyes of an American working with the North Vietnamese in order to humanize their efforts of killing Americans toward their final goal of communist oppression.

On a related note, did you know that as a boy Ho Chi Minh is reported to have a pet dog and was a keen outdoorsman?

Posted by: Rusty at 01:53 PM | Comments (25) | Add Comment
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1 yes, everyone knows he liked to wok his dog.

Posted by: Mr. K at April 07, 2005 09:55 AM (ZCYWE)

2 and he worked is America too.........Boston i think it was

Posted by: Red Wolf at April 07, 2005 11:05 AM (tkj+t)

3 and he worked in America too.........Boston i think it was

Posted by: Red Wolf at April 07, 2005 11:05 AM (tkj+t)

4 >>>"On a related note, did you know that as a boy Ho Chi Minh is reported to have a pet dog and was a keen outdoorsman?" ha! that was a nice touch Rusty.

Posted by: Carlos at April 07, 2005 11:20 AM (8e/V4)

5 Red Wolf: You're not sharing. If you're going to take them, you should share.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 07, 2005 11:57 AM (CBNGy)

6 It has been said for decades that to get either a Pulitzer or a Nobel Prize you must be Anti-American. It seems to still be true in the 21th century. Hating America gets big prizes from the pseudo intelligentsia. Or as we said in the Old Corps the phony eggheads!

Posted by: Rod Stanton at April 07, 2005 12:26 PM (GQcHQ)

7 Rusty, why did you move this post back to the top?

Posted by: Carlos at April 07, 2005 03:38 PM (8e/V4)

8 Umm... you realize, of course, that Mr. Baughmann only REVIEWED that book of photos by Vietnamese photographers, right? Here is a more accurate link. Not that I want to defend the guy. He does work for the Washington Times. Bleh. Just say 'no' to Moonies.

Posted by: Jeff at April 07, 2005 03:52 PM (bZ1qg)

9 Damn!!!!!!!!! You're right. Dude, thanks for fact check. I just did a Google Image search for the guy and I got a slew of hits to NVK photos.

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 07, 2005 03:56 PM (JQjhA)

10 Ho Chi Minh used to like the U.S. and even quoted the Declaration of Independence, according to the OSS.

Posted by: Collin Baber at April 07, 2005 04:37 PM (fufbw)

11 So did Castro. And Lenin. So what?

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 07, 2005 04:58 PM (JQjhA)

12 So did Castro. And Lenin. So what? Don't leave out Tim McVeigh.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 07, 2005 06:09 PM (CBNGy)

13 "Even the Devil quotes scripture for his own purposes." (Matt. 4:6)

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 07, 2005 06:09 PM (SENte)

14 The role of media is to record events so that we may learn what is happening.

Posted by: Collin Baber at April 07, 2005 06:34 PM (FV4oJ)

15 "The role of media is to record events so that we may learn what is happening." R2D2: Westworld.. where nothing can ever go wrong...wrong...wrong...

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 07, 2005 06:41 PM (SENte)

16

On a related note, did you know that as a boy Ho Chi Minh is reported to have a pet dog and was a keen outdoorsman?

According to a documentary I saw on one the educational (TLC/History/Discover) channels, he was also a pastry chef.

Posted by: Anachronda at April 07, 2005 06:44 PM (djVNl)

17 "According to a documentary I saw on one the educational (TLC/History/Discover) channels, he was also a pastry chef." Now THERE'S a scary thought--"elephant ears" made by Ho Chi Minh.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 07, 2005 06:46 PM (SENte)

18 Westworld: Yul Brenner. My man playing a walking talking collin baber. Preprogrammed.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 07, 2005 06:47 PM (CBNGy)

19 Greyrooster: Although Brenner had guts in the film, albeit mechanical ones.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 07, 2005 06:57 PM (SENte)

20 Hey, no problem on the fact check. As a member of the media, I consider the act of spreading the truth to be a moral obligation. Just doing my bit. ;-)

Posted by: Jeff at April 07, 2005 07:36 PM (bZ1qg)

21 Do you remember the circumstances surrounding how Michael Berg found out that his son, Nick, had been beheaded and the video was circulating on the internet? I seem to remember (but would like to verify) that the poor man was told by an AP reporter and his reaction was filmed. His legs just gave out from under him.

Posted by: vivi at April 07, 2005 08:30 PM (nTEvo)

22 Yes Vivi, Imagine the families who were brutally bombed in the sanctity of their homes by the finest craftsmanship of America's McAlester Army Depot. I want to see those who murdered Nick Berg brought to justice also.

Posted by: Collin Baber at April 09, 2005 07:16 AM (fufbw)

23 i`ve seen your program about your photography on tv in iran.interesting good luck maryam bakhshi photo journalist iran

Posted by: maryam baqshi at April 11, 2005 09:22 AM (0eu0L)

24 Maryan Bagshi: Please elaborate, continue. Do not be concerned about your English. Just do the best you can. We will help.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 11, 2005 10:53 PM (CBNGy)

25 i really need to find a picture by j. ross baughman. it's a very controversial photograph he took in 1978 on a guerrilla (sp) warfare in africa. it is of a man burning and another man comes up behind him with a machetti (sp). it is crucial that i find this picture! please someone tell me if they know where to find it on the internet. thanks!

Posted by: miloIAM at April 23, 2005 04:39 PM (PLQ33)

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