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July 27, 2005

Still Yet Another Sandcrawler PSA

***Note, this poll is non-binding. It's up to the good Dr. as to what he wishes to do with his own blog. That being said, however, it's become rather obvious that someone has become quite the pest.

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1 Can I submit a write in? That is to let him continue posting, but give him a Scott Baio avitar.

Posted by: Charles at July 27, 2005 11:31 PM (lQ1Or)

2 If avatars were allowed, I'd say yes, but, alas, your point is moot. Sorry.

Posted by: Mad Dog Vinnie at July 27, 2005 11:39 PM (Kr6/f)

3 Hey, it's your blog. But life is short, & I don't even want to waste the time it takes to scroll past all of DSM's foamy mouthed rants. Been avoiding the comments (mostly) for that reason.

Posted by: West at July 27, 2005 11:42 PM (0a5pR)

4 It's not my blog, it's Rusty's. And I've noticed several others avoiding the comments as well. Which is why I did this post.

Posted by: Mad Dog Vinnie at July 27, 2005 11:48 PM (Kr6/f)

5 I like polls, but I'd like to see Mad Dog Vinnie post a poll on something more interesting. You know, like what your favorite band is given a choice of, say, five bands. And I still want to know if I won the cocaine headline contest. I hear Mad Dog Vinnie worked it out with Rusty that he'd give the winner a free Carribean cruise.

Posted by: Chad Evans at July 27, 2005 11:54 PM (8WaYp)

6 God-damn Downing Street Memo! DSM keeps ruining all of my plans! If DSM keeps stopping my oil war propaganda, I'll never take over the world..and I'll always be lonely! - DUBYA BUSH

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 28, 2005 12:03 AM (ScqM8)

7 NEOCON COWARDS - YOU ARE AFRAID OF THE TRUTH!!! In the American system, high government officials, no matter how powerful their positions, are not the law. They are subject to the law, which they are sworn to uphold, and when they violate the law they are held accountable. The U.S. invasion of Iraq was illegal and unwarranted. Those who conspired to bring this war about must be identified and punished. Otherwise the United States will sink from the rule of law into the rule of men. A true patriot does not confuse government with country. A patriot's loyalty is to his country, and loyalty to country requires holding government accountable. - Paul Craig Roberts

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 28, 2005 12:08 AM (ScqM8)

8 GAH!! The headline contest! I'll pick a winner tomorrow.

Posted by: Mad Dog Vinnie at July 28, 2005 12:12 AM (Kr6/f)

9 I want that trip Vinnie. Do you accept bribes?

Posted by: Chad Evans at July 28, 2005 12:40 AM (8WaYp)

10 Neither he, nor Greg, are worth the urine required to dislodge them from the toilet bowl. They are guilty of censorship by babble. This sort of thing has killed innumerable news groups in usenet.

Posted by: Phillep at July 28, 2005 01:09 AM (zNjIG)

11 I defended greg and I defended the other moonbat Collin Baber even though they're both lunatics. I don't dislike DSM personally, but it's not like he's somebody you can have a serious exchange with. I don't actually even read his stuff it's so dumb. It's mostly crap. So is greg's stuff, but at least you can draw the guy into a reasonable exchange. Not so with DSM. He spews his garbage and that's about it. If you respond reasonably, he either ignores it or spews unrelated garbage in response. I vote ban him.

Posted by: Carlos at July 28, 2005 01:11 AM (8e/V4)

12 I'm with Carlos. I would like to add that this is the Jawa report. Not the hate the elected leaders of America report. This scumbag has no pride. Would a person with pride start posting bullshit to attempt to influence a vote to ban him? Have some personal dignity Downing Street Moron. Go away and seek your own. They are not here.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 28, 2005 02:22 AM (CBNGy)

13 Klanrooster, you racist pigjumper - you recruit for the goddamned KKK and call for genocide. Talk about disgrace. The only pride you know is some kind of nazi white pride so screw you you prick from hell!

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 28, 2005 02:56 AM (ScqM8)

14 "Another idea. Rally behind the Klan. I'm looking for a resurgence of the wonderful Knights of the Klu Klux Klan. A chapter in every community will drive the bastards back to where they came from. The government will not/can not protect us from this cancer. Believe in and support the KKK. Posted by: greyrooster at February 24, 2005 04:29 AM" Jesus, "Support the KKK"? Looks like DSM is the lesser of your resident evils!

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 28, 2005 03:02 AM (ScqM8)

15 THe burrowing Klan mole - EXPOSED!! "Support your local KKK chapter. Only the Klan can protect decent christan people from the Islamic threat. If you don't have a local chapter, now is the time to form one. As in the past when the Knights Templar protected Christians from the Islamic threat so shall the brave Knights of the Klan protect you now. The federal government has shown they care more for the rights of America's enemy than they do of yours. Time for people to take control and protect themselves from threats and murders in our country. The Klan will protect you. Support them. We need new members, big members with big you know whats. Instill the same fear in them that they instill in our people. Fight back now. Support the Honorable, Brave Knights of the Klu Klux Klan. They will fight for you. Posted by greyrooster at February 24, 2005 05:09 AM" "The Klan will protect you"??? Screw you and your pointy headed bullshit!!!

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 28, 2005 03:05 AM (ScqM8)

16 Even more Klanshit from the Rooster: "The Klan are true Americans. Doing what they think best for their country and race. Have they made mistakes? Sure. You telling me the Democrats and Republicans haven't. Bullshit. Half of you say everything president Bush does is a mistake. The other half says Clinton is the devil incarnate. Everyone can change their objectives. Crap, forty years ago when people seen a group of black people they would say look at all those republicans. How many are now republicans? Thirty years ago we had the solid south. Which meant the south was solid democratic. Now it votes republican. Dr. Jack Shepard is now a republican. Now, I ask you why can't the Klan change as the republicans and democrats did? Over and over the liberal weenies on this blog keep reminding us that all muslims are not terrorists. Just a few in the minority. Well, all Klan members are not terrorists. Just a few. Should we condemn the entire organization because of the few. If so, then nuke the middle east. Same thing. The Klan wishes to save America. What's wrong with that? Turn them loose. They will solve the muslim problem in America. Isn't that what half of you are saying.The klan has expertise we can use in our fight against Islam. They know how to tie a hangmans knot. Do you? They have experience in burning Chur, er, mosques. Do you? We need this experience. Do you know which branch of an oak tree to throw the rope over? They do. The Klan works for nothing. Try to get an expensive federal employee to work at anything. The Klan cares about normal American citizens. The Federal Government only cares about weirdos and minorities. The Klan speaks for the white man. Who else does? Got to go now. Have a date with a raghead who has been saying bad things about America. Going to make a good Christian out of him. Hang in there brave, valiant bloggers. I'm sure your words have terrified those that wish to kill you. remember the pen is mightier than the sword. Wanna bet. Posted by: greyrooster at February 24, 2005 09:00 PM" Screw you, the jihadis and the Klan you racist bitch ho!!!!!

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 28, 2005 03:08 AM (ScqM8)

17 Racist Klan Byotches, join up at Klanooster's hootie how-how joint, call collect as the Grand Friggin' Dragon-Wizard-Whackjob pays the bills! http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/105250.php (601)749-2500

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 28, 2005 06:09 AM (ScqM8)

18 Please allow DSM to voice his rantings. I don't agree with most of his views but perhaps he will make an attempt to argue his points in addition to engaging in personal diatribes. He can be vulgar, but no more so than others are to him. Most importantly, the guy makes me laugh. HEAR ME, DSM! Your mother is a balding, alcoholic social worker and your father collects broken He-Man dolls.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 28, 2005 06:20 AM (gK4qM)

19 I voted to keep him even though I think DSM = Dick Sucking Maggot.

Posted by: Mr. K at July 28, 2005 06:21 AM (VudXl)

20 YBP - you are a weirdo who fantasizes Ceaucescu comes back to power, just so you can rule the masses by his side. At least you are not a screaming racist bastard. Your insults are a blessing in disguise.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 28, 2005 06:24 AM (ScqM8)

21 Special K, Your mind is a bread twisty and your mother is a Siberian Hamster.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 28, 2005 06:26 AM (ScqM8)

22 Remember kids, this poll is for informational purposes. I can't ban anyone. Chad, bribes are always nice. heh.

Posted by: Mad Dog Vinnie at July 28, 2005 06:43 AM (Kr6/f)

23 The idiots mind is toast. Why keep his mindless babbling anti America, anti Christian bullshit. He is now a madman. Totally out of it. Proof needed. He is now posting old posts that every regular has already seen. Grasping at straws, while attempting to change the subject matter which is get rid of the mindless prick. Let us go on to better subject matter than his constant lunatic ravings. Ban the Bastard.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 28, 2005 06:44 AM (eVGfQ)

24 Klanrooster, your KKK recruiting, racist, putty ass is goin' bye-bye. I focus on the KKK contingent and leave the normal characters alone. You fight the Red White and Blue, as you support TRAITOR BUSH in his giant robbery.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 28, 2005 06:48 AM (ScqM8)

25 The pole is 4 to 1 to ban the madman. With the same soft hearted as usual voting to keep him. I commend them on their mercy. My question is do we want to continue losing track of every subject due to his constant lunacy. If there was a way to delete his posts like E-mails I would go along with letting those who wish to read his anti America rantings. However, there isn't. So off with his head. Bedsides the guy is nuts.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 28, 2005 06:51 AM (eVGfQ)

26 Klanrooster, the scumbag of the prairie needs you to join his personal racist, illegal Church-bombing and cross-burning army. Join now at (601)749-2500, the bristly boar operator is standing by to take your call!!!!

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 28, 2005 06:52 AM (ScqM8)

27 Klanrooster says, "off with his head", yet what he menas is that a rope be slung over an oak tree so he can perpetrate a lynching. Sorry, twistnutsack -(601)749-2500.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 28, 2005 06:55 AM (ScqM8)

28 (601)749-2500 (601)749-2500 (601)749-2500 for an army of one inmate!!

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 28, 2005 06:56 AM (ScqM8)

29 A true patriot does not confuse government with country. A patriot's loyalty is to his country, and loyalty to country requires holding government accountable.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 28, 2005 06:57 AM (ScqM8)

30 This is the first comments section I have been to in a while. Reason??? Too many lunatics in here ruining the threads and convoluting the subject matter. My choice not to enter comments any more because of it. I am all for oppinions that differ. I may not agree with what you say but I will fight to the death for your right to say it. I have the ultimate power though. I choose not to enter the comment section any more on this Blog. I find Rustys insights, and wit along with the many other people who post here very interesting. I read the articles everyday and form my own oppinions. I am afraid I am not the only one who does not visit the comments section any more. You have lost a large number of people. Rants, Raves, Personal attacks etc... tear down the substance, and integrity of the articles. They defeat the purpose of meaningful discussion. It is like trying to watch a movie in a theatre while one person keeps getting up and talking about whatever for a the period of time he chooses every few minutes Ranting, Raving, and attacking.... Ruins the movie for everyone. It certainly ruined this Blog,s comments section for me.

Posted by: Chris at July 28, 2005 07:34 AM (UQR/9)

31 I feel I can still comment and ignore anyone's comments I so choose. Let's assume DSM is, er, unhinged (and I don't think he is)--do we want to censor people because of this? Dish back what's dished at you. But there must be an effort to keep to the threads' subject areas.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 28, 2005 07:54 AM (x+5JB)

32 YBP: I just have no interest in "dishing" anything. I look for open,intelligent, thought provoking, discussion. The kinds of Rants, Raves, and attacks that we are addressing today are better left to the terrorists. That is their baileywick. Drawing paralells,citing history, making an intelligent argument with your mind and not a filthy mouth, or an angry insurgent attack are what most intelligent people are looking for in the comments section. I am all for frank discussion...There should be SOME tennet of good behavior though. Chris

Posted by: Chris at July 28, 2005 08:14 AM (UQR/9)

33 Chris: Agreed. As I stated, long as a person is civil to others, there's a good chance that they in turn will be civil to him or her (i.e., only the "dishers" need be concerned with "dishing it back").

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 28, 2005 08:29 AM (x+5JB)

34 DSM: We are in the territory of outright madness. People such as yourself, who pretend that there could be some accommodation with the aims of this movement(al-Qaeda) - who see it as a new power balance in the world that must be addressed in foreign policy terms - are criminally irresponsible. There is nothing short of the extinction of democratic, secular society that would appease this enemy. This new global confrontation is far more volatile than the cold war ever was. Back then, when we lived with our fears of a nuclear holocaust, we were up against a global debate about the quality of life. Capitalism and communism were both products of the 18-century enlightenment. They were locked in a disagreement about how it was best to live: which system was most likely to produce the greatest happiness for the greatest number. Back then we were all humanists of a sort who believed that life was worth living and the way that societies were governed was critical to the welfare of our fellow men. The battle of ideas got messy and scary when everybody got the sort of weapons that could have put an end to life of all kinds. But the fact that the weapons were never used was no coincidence: in the end, they valued life too much on both sides of the divide. Now we are at war with death itself and we cannot rely on that final rational decision to hold back from the brink.

Posted by: pjp at July 28, 2005 08:57 AM (PM/BC)

35 DSM: I would have nothing to do with Ceaucescu, who was a vampire-obsessed Communist who cringed at the site of crosses.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 28, 2005 09:11 AM (x+5JB)

36 Where else can I read the word hellibacon?

Posted by: Howie at July 28, 2005 09:34 AM (D3+20)

37 >>>"Where else can I read the word hellibacon?" That's true. Having him around does have it's uses.

Posted by: Carlos at July 28, 2005 09:42 AM (8e/V4)

38 For what it's worth, I don't quite follow most of the digressions DSM goes down. I mean, what's with this strange obsession with gophers and "boaring"? (I assume that's some form of ass pounding). Nowadays I usually just scroll past DSM's strange rants because they seem to involve the aforementioned items mixed in with Bush=Traitor/Nazi/Chimp and Greyrooster being a sheet wearing Klan member. It's entriely too predictable and tired.

Posted by: disgruntledinca at July 28, 2005 09:54 AM (IpG/2)

39 Yeah I like to died on that one.

Posted by: Howie at July 28, 2005 09:55 AM (D3+20)

40 All you have to do is read this thread. DSM offers absolutely nothing intelligable to the comments section of this or any other blog. He is nothing but a troll and should have been banned a long time ago. Ditto on Greg.(although occasionally Greg makes a wee little bit of sense)

Posted by: jesusland joe at July 28, 2005 10:04 AM (DDXXI)

41 As a contributing author I get to see some pretty strange comments roll by. check this one out this AM JEWS R THE FRIGGIN TERRORISTS! ALWAYS AV BEEN AND ALWAYS WILL B JEWS R TROUBLEMAKERS! JEWS R THE CRIMINALS! FK U BASTARD JEWS! ISREALIS R F@KIN STUPID,WEIRD AND BLEEDIN MENTAL!!! THE F@KIN ISREALIS R KILLIN THE CHRISTIANS AND MUSLIMS AROUND THE WORLD 4 NO F@KIN REASON!!!!!!!!! JEWS R MURDERERS!!!!!!! THE CHRISTIANS AND MUSLIMS R INNOCENT!!!!!!!!! jews stink! I'M GLAD THAT THE JEWS GOT CHUCKED OUT 4RM GERMANY! IT SERVES THEM RIGHT! WELL,ONE DAY THE CHRISTIANS AND MUSLIMS WILL GET RID OF THE BASTARD JEWS! THE CHRISTIANS AND MUSLIMS WILL RULE ISREAL JUST LIKE THEY'RE ALWAYS DID! WE WILL COME AFTER THE FRIGGIN JEWS! AND WE'LL GET RID OF THEM! just like they did b4! U'LL C! from Prs_ronaldo@yahoo.co.uk See most of the real freaks post on old threads and think they are hiding or something. Something to think about when you are voting. also I edited the comment for profanity here but the held back nothing. To see the thread search for russians hate jews in the search the Jawa.

Posted by: Howie at July 28, 2005 10:23 AM (D3+20)

42 But do you see how this rant is different than DSM's lines? He advocates killing nothing but gophers. If we're going by strict rules of debate than we're going to have to ban a lot of people.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 28, 2005 10:29 AM (x+5JB)

43 YBP my point exactly.

Posted by: Howie at July 28, 2005 10:36 AM (D3+20)

44 Ban a lot of people. So what? You let the crazies in & allow them to piss in the well or you don't. I don't like to drink piss, period. You are arguing about how much piss you can stand. I spent many years as a multi-user system admin. At first you are all nice & friendly, give everyone lots of warnings, clean up their messes, but the transgressors never learn, and you and your user community suffers because of it, and there is always another one coming along and you start the process all over again. After you learn your lessons, you become ruthless, rightly so, you run a tight ship, your response times go way down, and your user community benefits and you spend less time doing other peoples work & putting up with their BS. You can learn the hard way or the easy way - but you will learn.

Posted by: West at July 28, 2005 10:56 AM (0a5pR)

45 Here's my 2 cents: You have DSM who obviously has a very different political leaning from the majority in here (but so do I) and who's posts can really piss people off. My observation is that he is extreme, but goes after others in here who are are also extreme. Mind you, unless you're making a parody of someone's tragedy, I'm not likely to be offended by anyone's words, no matter how filthy, repulsive or obnoxious. I know most of you aren't like this though...and I've seen you take DSM's ranting quite personally. My advice is to lighten up, but I don't run this blog. The issue that I find alarming is that while DSM isn't tolerated, you're all tolerating a guy like greyrooster, who is a open racist bigot drunk who's posts I find extremely ignorant, disgusting and just plain wrong....yet, nobody in here seems to condemn him and his white supremacy agenda...why is that? What does that say about JAWA? I know the majority of you guys are thinkers and good people with good values, so why do you let this guy off the hook when DSM just babbles? DSM might be a babbling idiot, but greyrooster is just evil. I say if you're going to ban DSM, ban greyrooster too. Blatant racism should not be tolerated in here if you have good values. I like good political debate and can keep to the subject when I don't have some drunk always responding with his racist rants. OR just simply ban everyone who's views you don't agree with and JAWA will turn into a sausage party of people who always agree with each other about everything (boring).

Posted by: osamabeenthere at July 28, 2005 11:53 AM (5NVVZ)

46 Always funny to see YBP, Howie advocate the right of a dog to piss up their leg. When you get tired of having wet, smelly trousers - join the rest of us. I don't want Greg banned, even though I disagree with his views 99.9999999% of the time, they are presented clearly, and consise. I want DSM banned because he does not debate, he just slanders and post off topic remarks and trolls to the point he twists the thread so off-topic with arguments that it's a waste of time reading unless you want to skip his 15+ threads comprising of: KKKroster/Rove/Bush/boar/gopher/oil/nazi/ His comments are so stupidly random, I could replace him with a perl script.

Posted by: dave at July 28, 2005 12:26 PM (DO6vD)

47 I tend to agree with the previous post. Should you choose to ban DSM and not the likes of greyrooster, then that will send a very strong message out to the rest of the blogging "community" - to wit, that the Jawareport will not tolerate off-kilter dissenters, but will tolerate, acquiese, and by implication support venomous racists. Stepping down the path of banning posters is a slippery slope that implicates more than just precluding one indiviudal from making posts. Hence, it would seem that the only instances in which one would ban a poster would be vulgarity, profanity, lewdness, abusiveness, threats of violence, etc. etc. Such a situation does not encompass merely "whacky" posters or posters that "babble". Anyways, it's your blog so do what you want.

Posted by: Artin at July 28, 2005 12:27 PM (iWm+P)

48 Always funny to see a person who get's to post whatever he likes advocate the banning of others.

Posted by: Howie at July 28, 2005 12:33 PM (D3+20)

49 I second the Scott Baio avatar! Or perhaps a Gary Coleman avatar. "Downing Street Memo" reminds me of an angry, short dicked, drawf for some reason. *shrugs* Oh, hell, just ignore him.

Posted by: Princess Kimberley at July 28, 2005 12:35 PM (LNA9X)

50 For my 2 cents worth, I will have to agree most with Osama, YBP and Chris. I believe we should all try to be more civilized on the posts, at least take out the cussing. (I am trying to reform myself.) I do believe that intelligent individuals can have a form of discussion and not have to break down to name calling, which I think Greyrooster is incabable of. I admit, I do not read most of DSM post, because he does rant to much. But I do find some gems every now and then in them, such "A true patriot does not confuse government with country. A patriot's loyalty is to his country, and loyalty to country requires holding government accountable." But my suggestion, since it is you site, is to allow both Greyrooster and DSM stay, because I really hate censorship.

Posted by: Butch at July 28, 2005 12:40 PM (Gqhi9)

51 I think everyone has the right to post what they want, you have an even greater privilege of setting the topic of the post. The point being most people exorcise restraint and keep on the topic provided. This is not a "Freedom of speech" issue, the Internet has routinely removed people labelled as trolls: troll An electronic mail message, Usenet posting or other (electronic) communication which is intentionally incorrect, but not overtly controversial (compare flame bait), or the act of sending such a message. Trolling aims to elicit an emotional reaction from those with a hair-trigger on the reply key. A really subtle troll makes some people lose their minds. DSM does not debate the post, he starts his own "topic" on the threads, which often contain the elements of ostracizing people he does not agree with and posting flames, he has no redeeming qualities other than some find him amusing, at the expense at him distorting the message of the original post, and losing contributers. Banning DSM from here does not restrict his speech, he has the ability to open his own twisted blog, which people could read, the point being I came here to read YOUR posts, and Rusty's et al, not DSM. open another vote and see how many people come here to read DSM's posts?

Posted by: dave at July 28, 2005 12:50 PM (DO6vD)

52 Howie: I don't understand your comment. Dave: The solution is simple--I don't let DSM piss on my leg. I'm pro-Bush and pro-WOT, and he obviously is neither. (Greg posts long cut-and-paste jobs, too. I say let him, as long as they are on-topic.) His posts are, ahem, avante guard, but so what? He's not like "Freedom Fighter, advocating the killing of the U.S. or anyone here. And he has a sense of humor (unlike Freedom Fighter) and a way with words, and I value that. Let him stay. He doesn't bother me, and I'm 100% opposed to his political views, from what I gather. It has nothing to do with being "kind" or "soft"--I long to see Bin Laden's (and all terrorists' heads) on a pike. I say let him spout off, just like we do.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 28, 2005 12:50 PM (x+5JB)

53 I voted to ban him from comments. If he was contributing to the conversation in a coherent manner, it would be different. Instead, he cuts and pastes unrelated mantras from God-knows-where. I say, if he wants to put on his little aluminum foil hat and spout his own drama, he can make a free account at blogger.com.

Posted by: RomeoDelta at July 28, 2005 01:00 PM (AHaCg)

54 I'm just thin skinned. If DSM upsets me I'll delete him Dave. If he upsets you reply or not whatever. The only problem I have is when he spams up others comment theads especially a guest poster. I'm sure all this attention is like so discouraging for him.

Posted by: Howie at July 28, 2005 01:02 PM (D3+20)

55 DSM's mother snorts Bacon Bits and his father has the entire lyrics to "Waltzing Matilda" tatooed on the souls of his feet.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 28, 2005 01:08 PM (x+5JB)

56 There was an old Austrailian Stockman lying dying. And he gets himself up onto one elbow and he says. Watch me wallabies feed boys watch me wallabies feed They're a dangerous breed boys so watch me wallabies feed. I got's matilda too. Got some Aussies around here at work.

Posted by: Howie at July 28, 2005 01:14 PM (D3+20)

57 There's a big difference between having contrary views and just being a plain old disruptor. DSM is the latter. His comments serve not to pursuade opinions but rather to dissuade cogent discussion. I'm not a Psycholgist but my gut tells me he's like an obstinate 3rd grader constantly raising a ruckus in class, probably a misguided plea for notice and attention that he fervently craves. My opinion, either he learns to constructively add to the discussion or ban his misbehavin butt.

Posted by: traderrob at July 28, 2005 01:28 PM (3al54)

58 The only problem I have is when he spams up others comment theads especially a guest poster. Oh! there was a time he DIDN'T spam up a comment thread? that might be worthy of printing up and selling on eBay for rarity.

Posted by: dave at July 28, 2005 01:30 PM (DO6vD)

59 Well, in the end of all this...it's up to the person who runs the blog. My only point is, I'll tolerate almost anything...but I draw the line with racism. I don't give a piss if you're left, right, christian, jewish, catholic, muslim, black, white, green, red or blue... I actually find DSM quite funny sometimes, so I'd be sorry to see him go.

Posted by: osamabeenthere at July 28, 2005 01:38 PM (5NVVZ)

60 Removing a troll isn't about "censorship" or "Freedom of speech" it seems that is a problem only on the Internet, here is a few examples to try: Walk into the lobby of a nearest office building, shout at the top of your voice "BUSH LIED, and is making a new WTC out of solder's coffins, Hey you security guard, I think your mother is a mustached, jack boot licking Hitler fan, who eats dog entrails for breakfast" removing you from the building, will not be "censorship" Go to a basket ball game, shout at the top of your voice "Hey, Basketball fans, you guys are MORONS, only morons would think like you do" being removed in that situation is not "censorship" It isn't about censorship, it's about having the ability to say what you want, but showing restraint and respect for the people in your surrounding, intelligent debate on a topic and disagrement, is not the same as disrupting EVERYONE in your surroundings and labelling them as idiots, just to amuse yourself.

Posted by: dave at July 28, 2005 01:43 PM (DO6vD)

61 Dave I meant relative to himself not to others. He usueally does one or two but gets carried away and does 4 5 or 6 on the same thread right in a row at times. I got to work now.

Posted by: Howie at July 28, 2005 01:44 PM (D3+20)

62 Y'all noticed that DSM is silent. I got an email from another poster saying he was banned. Happy now??

Posted by: Howie at July 28, 2005 01:48 PM (D3+20)

63 The banned poster has asked that I post this as a farewell.Howie, If you have a moment, do me a favor and go to the string regarding the banning of DSM and let the Jawa Community know that I was banned while posting under the nom de plum, de Menezes' Ghost". Tell everyone I said good bye and wish them all the best. Thanks, Greg "de Menezes' Ghost"

Posted by: Howie at July 28, 2005 01:52 PM (D3+20)

64 If it means I can read coherent opinions of people, even if I agree with them or not, without having to skip 10 flamebait comments that serve no purpose other than to deform the original post, and degrade other people then yes, I am happy. Oh my god!, I must be worse that Hitler, what next, will I want to burn books?

Posted by: dave at July 28, 2005 01:53 PM (DO6vD)

65 Howie: Huh? I thought only Rusty could ban people. Greg just e-mailed me and told me he hasn't been able to post. I told him to let ask you to look into it. And DSM has been silent for a while? Hmmmmm.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 28, 2005 01:54 PM (x+5JB)

66 I suspect Rusty is online or has upped someones permissions. Wasn't me. I sent him to Rusty as there is nothing I can do about or would it's Rusty's blog.

Posted by: Howie at July 28, 2005 01:57 PM (D3+20)

67 osama makes a valid point about rooster. His racism doesn't particularly bother me because I'm on a hard backlash against my former Leftist colleagues, but osama makes a good point about how it makes this blog look-- not very good. It's not cool to promote the Klan. In rooster's defense though, he doesn't derail threads with unrelated pasted claptrap.

Posted by: Carlos at July 28, 2005 01:57 PM (8e/V4)

68 Carlos: See, I don't think he is a racist, contrary to what he says. He doesn't like whiners and people who badmouth their country. He thinks this country is #1. I'm with him three for three. I don't think he cares what color or race a person is. He cares about ATTITUDES.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 28, 2005 02:10 PM (x+5JB)

69 From Greg: "YBP, I will. If you have a chance, please go to the string regarding DSM's banning and tell the Jawa Community that I've been banned and say good bye to all for me and wish them the best. Thanks, Greg"

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 28, 2005 02:14 PM (x+5JB)

70 Dave! You goose-stepper! Now look at what you've done!

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 28, 2005 02:18 PM (x+5JB)

71 hey now! If the thread had been to vote for greg's banning, I would have voted against it. I might not like how Greg thinks, or care for his opinions but he contributes to a discussion, and brings a totally different viewpoint to it. albeit one that differs from the majority. Point being he contributes to the threads, often on topic without singling out people for a tongue lashing.

Posted by: dave at July 28, 2005 02:27 PM (DO6vD)

72 Greg is just pulling our chains. Rusty would not ban him. Greg must be trying to make some sort of point. I don't know what it is though. We would all know if Rusty had banned someone already. I don't accept Greg's word that he has been banned. Propoganda. Chris

Posted by: Chris at July 28, 2005 02:29 PM (ipaTi)

73 That is unless he was DSM. That might explain why Greg was banned. Hmmmmm food for thought.

Posted by: Chris at July 28, 2005 02:49 PM (ipaTi)

74 I beg to differ. Greg has been banned before and Rusty has not been talking about banning publicly. I doubt he would email both YBP and I if there was not some truth there of some kind.

Posted by: Howie at July 28, 2005 02:52 PM (D3+20)

75 Greg just sent me a screen shot of the banned message.

Posted by: Howie at July 28, 2005 03:37 PM (D3+20)

76 DSM and greg have 2 very different IPs. If I'm not mistaken, Chad ran down DSM to be in Australia.

Posted by: Mad Dog Vinnie at July 28, 2005 03:39 PM (Kr6/f)

77 Well, I was banned a week or so back...not knowing why. Rusty said he didn't even remember banning me but thought maybe it was in response to something I said which someone might have misinterpreted? Maybe a glitch? I still don't know. As far as DSM being Greg, I think that's quite a stretch. I know you guys want to lump all the moonbats into the same cage, but I think they are different people. YBP: "I don't think he is a racist, contrary to what he says. He doesn't like whiners and people who badmouth their country. He thinks this country is #1. I'm with him three for three. I don't think he cares what color or race a person is. He cares about ATTITUDES" Greyrooster is very open about being a proud racist. I assume you've read the stuff he says about black people and such? He thinks I'm a whiner and that I hate my country just because I don't like our current POTUS! I think that's a total bullshit cop-out. You can still love your country and what it stands for and be critical of our current president. When Clinton was in office and you guys didn't like that, were you traitors? No. YBP, I don't view you and greyrooster in the same light at all. You and I have had some intense discussions about religion, abortion, etc. but it never devolved into you or I threatening or insulting each other. Carlos, I guess no blog is perfect. It's not that I never agree with greyrooster...but every single time I see his name in here or read his posts it is a glaring reminder of what he stands for. I'm also quite sure that his attitudes towards other races probably turn away people who would otherwise intelligently post in here without having to deal with racist responses. Anyway, I don't want greyrooster banned...but I think he should be discouraged from playing the race card all the time. I think it's a weak, bullshit response. I'm not saying I'm not guilty of digging on him because of this though...I could clean up my posts a bit too! I'm just surprised that when he posts racist words and then everyone looks the other way... A neutral response to one of human kind's worst sociological mindsets seems unacceptable to me.

Posted by: osamabeenthere at July 28, 2005 03:43 PM (5NVVZ)

78 then unban him. The guy is a Jawa staple.

Posted by: Carlos at July 28, 2005 03:43 PM (8e/V4)

79 I wouldn't be surprised it Greg and DSM were one and the same. I've certainly done my part trying to get them(it) to stay on topic and have received nothing but hate in return, although I admit I have dished out some insults myself. Frankly, I won't miss Greg or DSM, although I doubt Greg has been banned unless he is DSM. Perhaps Rusty will solve the mystery.

Posted by: jesusland joe at July 28, 2005 03:45 PM (DDXXI)

80 If I saw a racist comment on one of my posts, I'd delete. If I missed one, well, that's easy enough to do. I'll go back through, and if I see any blatantly racist comments by anyone on MY posts, I'll whack 'em. I would hope my co-bloggers would do the same. I don't read all the comments, so, if you see a racist comment, and it hasn't been deleted yet, feel free to let me know. And remember kids, I didn't advocate banning anyone. If greg is banned, that wasn't my intention. However, DSM was getting to be enough of a pest that I felt it was necessary to gauge the mood, and, if Rusty saw it, to let him deal with it accordingly, if he so desired.

Posted by: Mad Dog Vinnie at July 28, 2005 04:20 PM (Kr6/f)

81 I am amazed at how astute some people are. Truly we have some deep thinkers on this blog. The same as we have some shallow minds who cannot put two and two together. I have determined this and can prove it by going back to posts over the last 6 months. The liberal set does not think. They react without thought or reasoning. They seem to be the same. They are always the first to initiate name calling, false accusations and such. They do not take pride or mention the many good things this great nation has done. They always focus on what THEY consider bad. They are also the lowest in their actions. Example: Attempts at hacking into peoples computers, attempting to release personal information on bloggers and anything they can do to personally attack those that disagree with them. I call them the Clinton bunch. They act like children. Like the Clinton bunch, when the people kicked the democrats out of the White House that their leader defiled. They cry, lie, exaggerate and are willing to use anything in an attempt to get their point across. Morality means nothing to them. They are always, always the ones who regress to the ass fucking, dick sucking name calling senario. The same ones who come back and pretend to be decent people. Some almost apologetic. Some are total lunatics controlled totally by their hatred for our elected government. Nothing but poor losers. I cannot see one instance of a conservative behaving this way. I love getting their goat on the racist thing. They are so easy. They also think that there is something evil about being a racist. When the truth is the vast majority of people are. My answer is racists are made, not born. I have also given my reason for being a racist. They have never disputed my reasoning or the facts. Not one time have I ever been disproven on any point I have made. Only hateful name calling is returned. Never an intelligent response. When in truth white people are far less racist than others. I will say they are few in number and the same who make excuses for the terrorist muslim fanatics. These same few are the ones who give aid and comfort to the enemy. The same ones who always take a stand against whatever America does. Being on the opposite side of them makes me proud. A few have figured out the truth. They are always the conservative types. A few have been told the truth. Again conservatives because a liberal cannot be trusted. This same few also seem to be the anti Christian, anti Jewish set. Yet they call others intolerant. I am admittedly intolerant. I am not a member of any religion. If I were I would be a Christian. If I were to be a Christian I would be a Catholic. My reasoning being that they were the first Christians. Also they are a force against the Islamofacists. Who I detest. I couldn't be a Jew because that is also a racial thing. Besides the KKK hates Jews. Right. Dumbasses. When the enemies of my country are against me. I am proud. The stupid rantings of a few like Greg, DSMoron and Osamabeennowhere make me proud. Those crybabies who don't deserve to be in this country like Artin mean nothing. Butch is nothing but a toy. Something to amuse myself. But I do see a patriot in him. Looking the wrong way with this insane I am black therefore I hate the republicans. This Osamabeennowhere turkey that now cries (no one condemns the Greyrooster) Whine, whine. Why idiot? Ever think of the notion that they agree with me. Wow! How you going to handle that fact. They don't speak of it because they have been conditioned that way. Conditioned by cry babies and a government far to liberal in the past. Easy to now see the mistakes. England is a good example. You can stick your head in the sand but the majority cannot. Answer this fact. Everyday white people are killed by blacks but not one case of the KKK killing anyone. Now why be bothered by a member of the KKK? Pretty stupid huh! Fixate on a group not doing a damn thing but ignore what needs to be addressed. Liberals are blind. Muslims are killing all over the world and you are blameing the President of America. Why is a person racist for believing white people are great? We need more blatant racists. Why? To wake people up. Is profiling blacks in NYC when looking for muggers wrong. Why? All the muggers are black (with a few Puerto Ricans). When I lived in NYC I never seen a white mugger and took the subway everyday. Profiling is a useful tool. You're the same as the excuse makers for the muslim killers. Only difference is you make excuses for another group. But you keep crying and I'll keep telling it like it is. No one is joining me and my friends Downing Street Moron and traitor Greg in calling Greyrooster names. Wha, wha, wha. Cry baby liberal Kerry loving Moron. Just another poor loser. By the way liberal morons. This is the Jawa report. Not the hug a muslim report.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 28, 2005 04:59 PM (CBNGy)

82 Greyrooster. The only reason that nobody has attempted to discredit your posts is that your racist babble lacks any sort of credibility. If you crack one history book, you will find that the KKK is an organization that is unilaterally despised in this country. They lack any shred of credibility or legitimacy. The KKK has been responsible for the deaths, lynchings, beatings and abuse of thousands upon thousands of black citizens of this country. Yeah, we all know how proud you are to be white (trash). You yourself bitch about other people namecalling then do the same thing. That is called hypocracy. I know you don't care about me dude, and your opinion of me is insignificant. In fact, you have passed a books worth of judgement upon me based upon the first sentence in the preface. It's really quite amazing how you have that ability. Also, white people commit crimes too - ever heard of white coller crime? Michael Milken, Ken Lay ring a bell? Lincoln Savings and Loan? Enron? The impact of their greed and criminal activity has destroyed the lives of thousands, yet you focus upon the black mugger in NYC. Thankfully, your infectious rhetoric is confined to the obscure comment pages on blogs. Your "white power" viewpoints have no place in civil society. You are quick to call others that don't agree with you morons and idiots, but you lack the requisite intelligence to give those insults any meaning. It is amazing how willing you are to ascribe the acts of one to the acts of entire population of people. That is simply not the way it works. Rather than recognizing the role immigration and foreigners have played in the success of this country, you scapegoat them. During WWII, the Japanese were confined to internment camps as a result of this attitude - yet, the all-Japanese contingency of American soldeiers were amongst the most decorated during WWII. The same applies to the all-black Tuskegee airmen. Minorities and people of color have also fought and died for this country. In a prior post you mentioned you are a Vietnam Vet. Didn't you see blacks and other minorities fight and die for their country as well?

Posted by: Artin at July 28, 2005 05:34 PM (iWm+P)

83 . Why is a person racist for believing white people are great? I agree in that aspect, I remember a few months back, there was a report on the news that a girl had created a "white" club, to the outcry of other minorities that brandished it racist, even though the school had other clubs dedicated to African Americans, and Hispanics, actually here is the article: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/09/20/MN227767.DTL

Posted by: dave at July 28, 2005 06:10 PM (DO6vD)

84 i have just one thing to add tto this, kinda of in the line of the last post by dave....i am not rascist by any definition....i have friends who are white,black,hispanic and i respect them all....i dislike people for what they may have done or said not by the color of their skin....but in another vein i find it kind of rascist when its okay for black Americans to have what they call "black pride" when its very bad for any white person to say they have pride in being white as right away any black person will call you a rascist or a KKK member...i find this to be very hypocritical...i have also seen some Hispanics claim they are pround of their Spanish roots as i work in a big city in NJ were many of my coworkers are hispanic and black....this is something that should apply to everyone...to be proud of youre origins be it black, white, oriental,hispanic or any other race as long as youre not crowing it from the rooftop and keeping everyone else down with cries of rascism

Posted by: THANOS35 at July 28, 2005 07:42 PM (9gFP6)

85 As a frequent lurker and occasional poster here at The Jawa Report (which I discovered by way of Misha's The Anti-Idiotarian Rottweiler, also a frequent target of trolls), here's my two cents' worth: I don't like banning commenters; I love a spirited debate and find flamewars hugely entertaining. Nonetheless, I also voted to ban DSM because, IMHO, DSM has gone far beyond mere trolling. He doesn't even try to make any sort of rational point. His postings have degenerated into nothing more than really annoying spam occupying at least half or more of any discussion thread that he "takes part in" - or rather, tries to smother beneath a thick layer of hatred and irrationality dumped into the comment stream as fast as he can type it. DSM doesn't seek to debate or even argue; he simply wants to shout down and silence anybody who disagrees with him. By, if all else fails, taking up so much bandwith with his ravings that there isn't enough room for anyone else to even respond to him. If he's going to act like a spammer, then by all means treat him like a spammer and shut him down. F.E.T.E.

Posted by: Wes S. at July 28, 2005 09:37 PM (qS68i)

86 Well I'll be damned people actually get it. My faith in humanity has just went up a bunch. We can have a black miss America but a white miss America would be racist. We can have a Black policemans association but a white policemans association would be racist. Again the ass kisser Artin continues to make excuses for others. (The only reason noboby has attempted to discredit your posts) Who you speaking for turkey?. How do you know whats on others minds. Again, cowardly calling for and speaking for others. Do you know how many E-mails I get from major contributors on this blog? Asswipe, you are just an apologist. When have I ever used the words white power. You are a liar. A liberal, anti-government bullshitter. So the excuse maker Artin now uses white collar criminals to justify the actions of muggers that maim and kill the elderly and innocent. You dog. How low can a human go. Did the KKK commit acts of terror years ago? Certainly, everyone knows that. Think we need some foreigner to tell us that? Do you hate the Catholic Church? They burned people at the stake years ago. Do you hate the Protestants? They did even worse with their witch hunts. They don't do it today. Either does the Klan. Ever heard of a Klan member molesting little boys? Hell no. So why not direct your stupid hatred to the Catholic Church. Do you hate the Armenian terrorists? They are still in business. I'm a racist. I have my reasons for being one. What is your reason for defending muggers and comparing them to white collar criminals. Cheaters they may be, but there no comparison to having a knife stuck in your gut. The problem with you liberal types is you lack the ability to understand reality. The KKK despised in this country. Boy. You had better get out and see the world. News for you turkey. In some parts of the country California is made fun of more than the KKK. Everytime one of these local yokels discover that I am from Calif. I am the butt of joke after joke. To many here, everyone from California is gay. Which means they are as ill informed as you. The important thing is that you have never said anything on this blog. You can only talk about me. I can only assume that you wish to be like me but lack the courage. Stay in your ghetto. You belong there. Pacify those who you fear. Perhaps ass kissing will protect you. Perhaps not. Now shut your lying mouth. Talk about your own people.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 28, 2005 09:48 PM (CBNGy)

87 You seem to think it somehow matters that people in other parts of the country "make fun of" California. I really doubt people here care. The Terminator is our governor. If California was as terrible as you think it is, I am at a loss to understand why people flock to live in this great state. California contributes a great deal to this country. It's populations are both homogenious and diverse. California is home to countless brilliant minds. Does it have problems? Every state in this nation does. You gain nothing by namecalling and label-stamping. I'm sure all the folks here are very proud that you are so courageous to stand up to a liberal from a state which people make fun of (Also, the KKK and other racist white supremicist organizations thrive in certain areas of California. Fontana - also known as "Fontucky" - is a haven for racist organizations.) It's all just a tyrade of insults and empty words. But anyways, enough about you. You're right - I'm gonna move on. Let's all give a round of applause to greyrooster for an exciting and thought provoking experience. Your courage is commendable with your tough words like "boy" and "turkey". Anyways, looks like you already took your advice and got out of California. You are one ugly soul, Peace.

Posted by: Artin at July 28, 2005 10:53 PM (Oyvbq)

88 There's nothing wrong with anyone being proud of themselves, or their religion/race. That's a little different than wearing little white pointy hat, Greyrooster. You're not going to have any fans in here that are racist, as I can tell most don't agree with you on your racist rants. Either that, or they aren't saying so. To me, reading your posts can be just as bad as DSM's....gibberish peppered with exaggerations and unfounded paranoia...annoying and lame. Grow up.

Posted by: osamabeenthere at July 29, 2005 12:05 AM (5NVVZ)

89 My feelings on banning were presented when this topic came up with someone else on the docket. I don't recall who it was or the exact comment I made, but I said something to the effect of "don't ban someone because you disagree with them." That said, I really haven't seen much out of DSM other than bizarre rants and raves. The guy(?) even calls people out to provoke more flames. Now that's just odd. Is it worth banning though? If it is of any measure, he would be the only person banned on my blog for doing what he does here. I have neither the time nor the patience to delete comments that are blatently offensive to anyone other than myself. That is where I personally draw the line. I must admit I never read comments and comments that come from people like DSM are one reason why. I mean why waste my time reading a bunch of whining people that have no interjected a reasonable (in the definition of debate) opinion? Dean Esmay has a wonderful comment community that is, for the most part, filled with intelligent responses and reasoned debate. That is more my cup of tea. I figure I have two choices when it comes to commenters, trolls or not. I can either respond and offer my two cents regardless of how much or little the previous commenter agrees with it in hopes of striking a debate or I can ignore it. Sadly I've come to ignore 99 percent of comments only because the reasoned and the intelligent seemingly are so few and far between. One key aspect to remember is that a community, which a blog that allows comments is, is only as strong as the commenters' reasoned arguments are. If all that exist are ramblings from someone believed to be a little kid, it will fail. Anyways, that's my two cents but it's only worth half that at most. I must say this one comment thread, most of it at least, has been refreshing to read over because people actually came to the table with arguments worthy of debate. For that I thank you.

Posted by: Chad Evans at July 29, 2005 02:02 AM (8WaYp)

90 I hate the United States of America. I want you all to vaporize in a horrific Nuclear Hell as I laugh at you from the bowels of Australia

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 29, 2005 02:42 AM (ScqM8)

91 You are afraid of the truth!

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 29, 2005 03:59 AM (ScqM8)

92 Someone has the gall to fake messages from me with all kinds of sordid ideas. DSM hates wars and racist scumbags who don't fight fair.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 29, 2005 04:11 AM (ScqM8)

93 No kidding on Klinton, I'm talking NOW - send in BAER with a budget and he'll get Bin Laden in one month! BUSH is playing coy with you and me about Bin Laden. If each military aluminum coffin was 1.5 foot high, then 1800 coffins equals 2700 feet of dead Americans, right? BUSH is building two towers the height of the WTC with coffins of dead soldiers. All of these soldiers have been killed for a PACK OF LIES. Soldiers should not have to die for Bush's lies and sick adventures, but they are. BUSH is not a hero, he is a TRAITOR!!!! Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 23, 2005 10:04 PM Is Bin Laden still on vacation in the mountains? Did not ex-CIA Baer not say he could nail UBL in one month? Are not 1800 coffins x 1.5 ft high equal to 2700 feet high of coffins? Were not the combined height of WTC1 and WTC2 equal to 2730ft? Did Bush not lie about Uranium from Niger? Is not deceiving the American People into war an act of treason? Your enemy is not DSM.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 29, 2005 04:22 AM (ScqM8)

94 Wow am. Maybe he fell asleep. Update on what I know. Greg was banned simply becuase he abused right to post here in a manner that upset Rusty. greg pretty much does that. He gets banned and makes some changes trys really hard and slips back and screws up. I would imagine and it's total speculation on my part the ban will last a bit longer than last time as it did not take all that long for greg to get himself into trouble again. I find the whole process pretty entertaining as well I have/had the same problem mouth overloading ass in the past. I get a sick kick out of watching him gain confidence and slip ever so quickly right back into the same rut. That is I see myself in it that is why I kind of feel for him. So I'm sure greg will be back some day and I'm sure he'll try hard and I'm sure he will do the same thing but maybe it will take longer. DSM I would not get too cocky just yet a little bird told me you are skating on thin ice and yes I dumped that "molest" comment like a hot rock. At first I had to look over IP addresses because I thought it may have been an impersonator. Should you get banned I'll not miss you like I do greg.

Posted by: Howie at July 29, 2005 09:00 AM (D3+20)

95 I take it that is an attempt to argue with some intelligence. Some facts are right. Chad had a great comment...... then here comes DSM again with comments out of nowhere. The thread was broken once again with rhetoric, and balogna. If you look at all of DSM's postings here you will see that none of them has anything whatsoever to do with this thread. He has built his own COFFIN here. Fact is we don't need him to carry on. We can do whithout his kind. Chris

Posted by: Chris at July 29, 2005 09:03 AM (2lcVN)

96 Howie, so greg was banned and DSM was not? That's bizarre.

Posted by: Carlos at July 29, 2005 10:06 AM (8e/V4)

97 Yeah that's what I was thinking too.

Posted by: Chris at July 29, 2005 10:25 AM (2lcVN)

98 Just wait gentlemen. Time you know.

Posted by: Howie at July 29, 2005 10:33 AM (D3+20)

99 DSM, if the United States is involved in a nuclear exchange, Australia is sure to be involved as you are our best ally. Thank you for your support all these years, and I mean it.

Posted by: jesusland joe at July 29, 2005 10:34 AM (DDXXI)

100 Oh hell lets make it an even 100 comments.

Posted by: Howie at July 29, 2005 03:14 PM (D3+20)

101 You're pushing your luck Howie. YOu must have an odd number of comments. Heh.

Posted by: Chad Evans at July 29, 2005 03:30 PM (8WaYp)

102 Seriously though, did you guys ban greg?

Posted by: Carlos at July 29, 2005 06:45 PM (UWO6N)

103 Carlos, if that question is directed at me, the answer is of course not. I don't ban anyone otherwise I would have banned myself long ago. That Chad guy is just no good.

Posted by: Chad Evans at July 29, 2005 08:48 PM (8WaYp)

104 Downing Street Moron: The people have spoken. Get lost punk.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 30, 2005 04:41 AM (CBNGy)

105 Seems everybody have their own definition of the word "racist" Quick reminder: [n] a person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others [adj] discriminatory especially on the basis of race or religion [adj] based on racial intolerance; "racist remarks"

Posted by: Ren at July 30, 2005 01:11 PM (a9tRx)

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July 24, 2005

Ilario Pantano Should Sue This "Writer"

Ashraf Fahim is a self-described "freelance writer" and "news analyst" operating out of Brooklyn, New York and publishing primarily in Middle eastern and Asian "news" outlets unfriendly to the US.

Fahim is so long-winded and boring that I'm not going to reproduce the entire propaganda piece here; I'll just fisk a few choice paragraphs. The density of Fahim's drivel is by design - repeating lies over and over breaks down resistance and enures the reader to the obvious distortions and pretzel logic.

From The perils of colonial justice in Iraq:

Among its more vociferous opponents, the American project in Iraq is characterized as a classic colonial adventure, indistinguishable in nature or intent from the deepest, darkest chapters in Northern oppression of the South: America is to Iraq as Britain was to India or Belgium to the Congo. Proponents, on the other hand, argue the inherent benevolence of American empire - the export of democracy and egalitarianism in contrast to the transparent racist imperialism of yore.

Make no mistake. Ashraf Fahim is among those vociferous critics, not an unbiased bystander as he pretends to be here. If you enjoy anti-American propaganda, check out his other writings here. But a close reading of Fahim's first paragraph is enough to pin down his mindset. Notice that Fahim's imaginary protagonists, the "vociferous opponent" and the "proponent" agree to the "colonial" nature of the War in Iraq. This is the straw man that Fahim is trying to create. But if the US is a "colonial" power, the same as Great Britain and Belgium were, where are the US colonies? Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands? Fahim's thesis is doomed by definition, and his own faulty logic.

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1 Looks like the U.S. is being colonialist in Iraq to me.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 24, 2005 07:15 PM (ScqM8)

2 sure DSM, look at all those American's packing up all their possesions in the family car and moving to Iraq to buy some land....you stupid, ignorant piece of white trash

Posted by: THANOS35 at July 24, 2005 09:53 PM (9gFP6)

3 Iraq is America's Nigeria - lots of oil, corruption and more. Colony: A region politically controlled by a distant country; a dependency. Dr. THANOS, explain how Iraq is not a colony.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 24, 2005 10:26 PM (ScqM8)

4 DSM, Colony a: a body of people living in a new territory but retaining ties with the parent state b: the territory inhabited by such a body Dude, update your propaganda lexicon, you're embarrassing yourself.

Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at July 24, 2005 10:37 PM (RHG+K)

5 The individuals killed by Lt. Pantano were probably as 'innocent' as the individual killed by the British Police the other day. When people who look like you and act like you are doing bad things to others and being actively pursued, it's generally a good advice to listen and obey the instructions of armed authorities - not act threatening and belligerent.

Posted by: Jonathan Murray at July 24, 2005 11:09 PM (7D30s)

6 Snuggly Bluto, there are many definitions of "colony". Lets' take a look at Iraq. Who runs the control tower at Baghdad Airport, the security of the International Zone, swims in Saddam's swimming pools, runs the Prison System, patrols the skies with planes and drones? America the Beautiful!!!!

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 24, 2005 11:12 PM (ScqM8)

7 Who did the same in Germany and Japan in 1945? Are they colonies of the US? "...many definitions of 'colony'." Do you think you're one of George Orwell's pigs, now?

Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at July 24, 2005 11:32 PM (RHG+K)

8 I dunno, Popeye's Enemy, Iraq has too much oil to be free of the Hellibacon colonizers. Bush and his twisty-minded buddies raped and ravaged the oil revenue 8 Billion missing from what I've heard. Goddamned disgrace.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 24, 2005 11:35 PM (ScqM8)

9 You don't know? Why, the US occupied Japan and West Germany. The USSR occupied East Germany. Who turned out to be a colonizer? Hint: it starts with "US" and ends with "SR". Your written idiomatic English isn't too bad, but you have no real grasp of our history or culture.

Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at July 24, 2005 11:56 PM (RHG+K)

10 THANOS35: For your info Downing Street Moron is not WHITE trash. Trash alright but diffinately not white. Either brown or black with a dirty rag on his head. He uses it to wipe his ass as his kind have yet to invent toilet paper. In fact, not many have a toilet so they carry their ass wipe on their heads. Thats where the phase shit head comes form. Direct someone watching Downing Street Moron wipe his ass and then wrap his head.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 25, 2005 01:39 AM (CBNGy)

11 The muslim huggers play this death of one idiot without the brains to stop with cops tell him to as the biggest news of the war on terror. What about the dozens of innocents killed by the terrorists. I guess thats small stuff. The bombings in Egypt must be small stuff. The biggest thing on their agenda is one death of a probable terrorist associate. Not the hundreds killed by Downing Street Morons friends.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 25, 2005 01:45 AM (CBNGy)

12 Psycho Klansman Greyrooster, in flagrante delicto with the wild mountain boar is a loser.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 25, 2005 02:30 AM (ScqM8)

13 Gayrooster in action: http://www.big-boys.com/articles/hunterkicksboar.html

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Al Qaida in Iraq Releases Video of Egyptian Diplomat and Sinai

It may be an off day for millions world-wide, but for Al Qaida, there's no such thing as an off day. Fresh off of claiming responsiblity for the terrorist attack on the Sinai Peninsula which killed around 90 people and injured close to 200, Al Qaida in Iraq has released a video of the now executed Egyptian diplomat Ihab al-Sherif saying there is a large Jewish presence in the Sharm al-Sheikh region.

Al-Qaeda in Iraq issued a 1:30 minute video today, July 23, 2005, depicting a "confession" of the Egyptian ambassador to Iraq, Ihab al-Sherif, as he discusses the Jewish presence (permission to stay) in Sinai. It is interesting to note that this video was released just hours after the triple bombing in Sharm al-Sheikh, Egypt, perhaps indicating some kind of connection between al-Qaeda in Iraq and the attack.

Not only does this video might show proof of a possible Al Qaida in Iraq connection, this video is intended to spark the ridiculous calls by some television "experts" claiming Israel had something to do with the terrorist attack.

It really matters not whether Al Qaida in Iraq carried out the attack in the Sinai as the other groups who claimed responsibility do have an operational connection to Al Qaida in Iraq and Al Qaida as a whole. We already know Abu Musab al-Zarqawi has attempted to stretch his arms outside of Iraq therefore it's hardly surprising there may in fact be a closer connection than previously thought. Then again, this very well could be well-timed propoganda to try to get Al Qaida in Iraq's name in the news again.

Infovlad has the video

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July 23, 2005

Radical Islamic Cleric in England Continues to Preach Hate

In the wake of the second terrorist attack in England, radical Islamic cleric Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed seems to be more of an idiot than previously believed. The English government is drafting new laws to make this type of "hate speech" outlawed and deciding whether certain clerics who are urging jihad and terrorist attacks are worthy of deportation or imprisonment.

This doesn't stop Mohammed though as today he said attacks will continue until British soldiers are out of Iraq and Afghanistan (via Euphoric Reality).

"What happened yesterday confirmed that as long as the cause and the root problem is still there ... we will see the same effect we saw on July 7," Bakri said.
"If the cause is still there the effect will happen again and again," he said, adding he had no information about future attacks or contacts with people planning to carry out attacks.
Bakri, a Syrian-born cleric who has been vilified in Britain since 2001 when he praised the September 11 hijackers, said he did not believe the bombings and attempted attacks on London were carried out by British Muslims.

The 'root cause', as Mohammed sees it is not radical Islam or his asinine ramblings, it is the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. We must continue to remind these people of low intellect that there were in fact terrorist attacks before either war.

Mohammed tries to condemn the attacks against innocents, yet he supports the killing of Muslims throughout the Middle East. What is Mohammed's goal?

"I would like to see the Islamic flag fly, not only over number 10 Downing Street, but over the whole world," he said.

That too is the goal of radical Islam as a whole. I cannot say this enough even if I sound like a broken record. Radical Islam wants to turn the entire world into a Caliphate state where Sharia Law is the only law and we are all mindless followers of the only religion people like Mohammed sees fit. As I've said before, I refuse to be a pawn.

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1 Idiot muslims and liberal muslim supporters need to be reminded constantly that the attack of the World Trade Center and Pentagon happened before we went to Afghanistan and Iraq. The muslim terrorist attack on us is why we went to Afghanistan and Iraq. To put a stop to it. Dumbasses just can't seem to accept this fact. Fact #2. The attack on the United States was planned while the cheating bastard Clinton was president. It was conceived and planned well before President Bush was elected. It was thought of and put into action when Clinton was invading every little country that couldn't fight back. When they did, Clinton ran and called the troops back. Dumb shit, stupid muslims and their asshole lying supporters just don't get it. Tony Blair and President Bush are living heros. They are standing up to a situation completely caused by the previous administration that was made up of old ladies and midgets. Clinton's cowardous gave the terrorists confidence. They never figured on Bush and Blair going after them. Clinton would have ran as he did in Somalia. Bush is getting the respect back that the Clinton administration lost. You don't have to be the most popular person in a company, Government or whatever to be respected. But to run it you must let those less than you know that you are in charge. President Bush and Tony Blair have had to fight two wars. One against the muslim asshole terrorists. One against the idiot muslim hugging cowards in their own countries. I believe they are both heros and the finest leadership either country has had in many a year. I don't expect everyone to see this as it does take some depth of thought.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 23, 2005 04:54 PM (CBNGy)

2 >>>"The English government is drafting new laws to make this type of "hate speech" outlawed and deciding whether certain clerics who are urging jihad and terrorist attacks are worthy of deportation or imprisonment. That's very good. In the meantime, however, you will continue to stroke him the welfare checks he is so very much entitled to. You gotta love Liberalism.

Posted by: Carlos at July 23, 2005 06:08 PM (8e/V4)

3 Yep, the guy that got his head blown off in London was a Brazilian electrician. This war on terror is a nutcase psycho ward excuse for raging gubbamint violence.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 23, 2005 06:45 PM (ScqM8)

4 I will give a nickle to the punter that drains this cleric's head. That is all this bearded fuckers life is worth now. I put a fatwa out on his ass. TO ALL PUNTERS AND SPIVS! DRAIN THIS FUCKERS HEAD!!!!!

Posted by: obsnooks at July 23, 2005 06:53 PM (xdqZV)

5 >>>"Yep, the guy that got his head blown off in London was a Brazilian electrician." What the hell does his nationality or profession have to do with it? He could be a Malagasy electrician for all I care. He refused to stop, he got shot. Evolution at work.

Posted by: Carlos at July 23, 2005 06:58 PM (8e/V4)

6 obsnooky - are saying people should kill over speech? Slime-mouth-Greyrooster, so what do you think provoked those 9/11 bastards to come to America and blow up the buildings? It wasn't Islam, idiot. It was Da Gabbamint's hijinks overseas that da Gubbamint doesn't tell you about. Uncle Sammy has been on a worldwide resource rape-fest for years, pissing on hundreds of millions of people to snatch their oil and minerals. Bastards have taken your flag, thrown it over other countries and blanket partied them with coups, bombs and wars. No wonder they hate us, dickwad!! So screw your blind jingoist patriotism, lynch-master of the forest - your life is a lie and your breath smells like a chickenhouse.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 23, 2005 07:13 PM (ScqM8)

7 >>>"Uncle Sammy has been on a worldwide resource rape-fest for years, pissing on hundreds of millions of people to snatch their oil and minerals." And paying top dollar for it. The mooooslims would be eating sand if it weren't for Uncle Sam.

Posted by: Carlos at July 23, 2005 07:21 PM (8e/V4)

8 Now American troops are eating their sand, Carlos

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 23, 2005 07:47 PM (ScqM8)

9 you think I went home don't you DSM.

Posted by: Howie at July 23, 2005 07:51 PM (D3+20)

10 hey DSM , if youre so supper smart, and from what ive seen, youre not, but lets say you are....lets see you come up with a better way to run the ENTIRE American government, you fucking armchair general with youre little peanut sized brain in youre big shark sized mouth

Posted by: THANOS35 at July 23, 2005 08:00 PM (9gFP6)

11 Now can Down Syndrome Meme get banned? he's getting as stupid and pointless as BLSD, and his repetitive drivel needs to stop.

Posted by: dave at July 23, 2005 08:01 PM (DO6vD)

12 greyrooster has it right...were where you, DSM , when Clinton did NOTHING when the first bomb went off in the WTC back in the 90's????....you were probally sucking on ole Slick Willys wang, sharing it with that other whore....you probally cheered every thing Willy did, didnt you, you fucking terrorist loving whore, didnt ya, bitch???....oh of course, it was fine for the married President of the USA, Bill Clinton, to be having an affair right in the Oval Office, right on the desk that many great President of this country have say at and signed documents that made this country strong and great...you would have us all on our knees, bowing down to our Muslim overlords,praying to a death god who needs blood, dont you, you freaking heathen...go back under that rock you crawled out from under, you scumbag

Posted by: THANOS35 at July 23, 2005 08:12 PM (9gFP6)

13 I told you I was watching punk.

Posted by: Howie at July 23, 2005 08:17 PM (D3+20)

14 Ok, TANOS, first, I'd run da GUBBAMINT within Kyoto, within ICC and stop rampaging around with DA MILITRY. Counterterror would be kept in the shadows and not a "noisy american spectacle". Patriot ACt would be shut down and border control strenghtened with 100,000 troops brought back from Iraq. My only bad and immoral thing would be to get a small LRRP sniper squad into afghanistan to take down Bin Laden PERMANENTLY, once and for all.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 23, 2005 08:29 PM (ScqM8)

15 My sincere apologies to Chad for touching his thread.

Posted by: Howie at July 23, 2005 08:45 PM (D3+20)

16 well i can say if theres more bombs in the uk i bet you ll get some british nutters blowing up muslin places. this will happen it will get out of control british people will not take this, so a search for a group call combat 18 and there brother groups http://www.whitepower.co.uk/bally.jpg

Posted by: noname at July 23, 2005 08:46 PM (eFuj0)

17 Heh. I don't waste time arguing with idiots who use three different screen names to strengthen his arguments, Howie. I prefer to laugh a bit more.

Posted by: Chad Evans at July 23, 2005 08:53 PM (Ievlo)

18 Sorry again.

Posted by: Howie at July 23, 2005 09:04 PM (D3+20)

19 Howie, there's nothing to apoligize for. I just meant that in this particular thread, there is basically one dissenter and it's the same dissenter who uses three different . . . nevermind. Your comments, like everyone else's, are more than welcomed no matter how many personalities you bring to the table. Hey, there wouldn't be a comments section of the authors didn't want to hear any feedback. Here's a bit of trivia. I'm sure greyrooster knows the answer. Which United States president used the United States military more in terms of sending it to the most foreign countries other than FDR?

Posted by: Chad at July 23, 2005 09:16 PM (Ievlo)

20 Kyoto???....you believe that garbage???....you think that the world can actually change something that is a naturally occuring act???....lemme tell ya something DSM....one, only one, volcano, when it erupts can pump out more toxic and deadly poisinous gases than the entire USA industry could....the world goes threw warming and cooling trends and has been for millions, if not billions of years, long before the first human like creature stood upright on this planet and humans have the arrogance to think they can stop an act of nature???...might as well as stop a hurricane in its tracks by blowing a fan in its direction, may as well stop an eartquake.....get it, its an act oif nature or if you like, an act of God...we can not stop the earth from warming up or cooling down....check up on the facts....

Posted by: THANOS35 at July 23, 2005 09:16 PM (9gFP6)

21 second, how would you keep the fight on terrorism in the shadows???....know what the press is???...the internet???...how do you keep such a huge amount of violence out of the news and away from the public???...and you seem to be the one who blames Bush for having secrets and here you are saying that you would conduct something in secret....hypocrisy, anyone???.....why should it be bad and immoral to kill a murdering terrorist like Bin Laden???....would you feel bad for a man eating shark, that killed and ate a few innocent children swimming in the ocean, when it is finally found and shot???....please...you put down a rabid, sick dog without mercy,without remorse, just like Bin Laden, because you would be doing society a big favor

Posted by: THANOS35 at July 23, 2005 09:23 PM (9gFP6)

22 I'll take a stab LBJ. Yes chad I understand. I've been working watching him all day. I just got fed up. I'm extremely extremely tolerant but I take insults to the Jawa quite personally.

Posted by: Howie at July 23, 2005 09:24 PM (D3+20)

23 Not LBJ is it?

Posted by: Howie at July 23, 2005 09:26 PM (D3+20)

24 hmm. interesting. leak the nicks he uses other than DSM? Take out the trash!

Posted by: dave at July 23, 2005 09:48 PM (DO6vD)

25 DSM said to obsnooks: "...are saying people should kill over speech?" I'm saying that. Yes, definitely. If someone stands up and says "kill the Jews, kill the Americans, kill the infidels, kill them wherever you find them." Then I say put a black bag team on him ASAP, along with anyone who was nodding in agreement when he said it.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 23, 2005 09:56 PM (0yYS2)

26 IMPY, fly to Britain AND GUT SOME FISH AND CHIPS!! That preacher prick is hanging out at the same street corner day in and day out, he's not hard to find. Just get on a plane!

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 23, 2005 11:10 PM (ScqM8)

27 IMPY, you live in NJ and can get to the UK in less than 24 hours from now. Here is the chap you love so much: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1777503.stm Here is the address of the mosque of the chap you love so much: http://www.salaam.co.uk/mosques/searchmosque.php?orgcode=121 Here is a map to his preaching spot: http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=531402&y=186591&z=0&sv=N4%202QH&st=PostCode&lu=N&tl=~&ar=y&bi=~&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 23, 2005 11:33 PM (ScqM8)

28 I am saying that someone should drain his head. Just like that filth JFK had done.

Posted by: obsnooks at July 24, 2005 07:35 AM (xdqZV)

29 THANOS:'hey DSM , if youre so supper smart, and from what ive seen, youre not' I love it when someone insinuates that another is stupid and then misspells words in their adversarial post. "SUPPER"?

Posted by: greg at July 24, 2005 01:14 PM (/+dAV)

30 calling the kettle black,eh childmolester greg???

Posted by: THANOS35 at July 24, 2005 04:48 PM (9gFP6)

31 Now Greg. I detected that you had somehow gotten a little wiser lately. But there you go slipping back into the old grove. Whenever you agree with garbage such as Downing Street Moron you demean yourself. Downing Street Moron has replaced you as the most hated idiot on this blog. Jealous? Are you trying to get back to #1? Back it off and maybe, just maybe, someone will give interest to what you have to say. In the past, when you post something the immediate respond has been more stupid bullshit from the America hater. Now, that Downing Street Moron has replaced you are #1 bullshitter you should take advantage of the situation. That is, if you really have something meaningful to say. Which I still doubt. But anyone can leave the dark side and be enlightened. Think about it.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 24, 2005 05:19 PM (CBNGy)

32 BUSH is a traitor, Rooster, America knows it and now you fight the Red White and Blue. So sad, as the country is leaving you behind.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 24, 2005 10:37 PM (ScqM8)

33 Wrong you America hating, muslim loving pile of pig shit. America is joining me more and more everyday. America is tired of shit of the likes of you. You who give aid and comfort to the enemy. You are a traitor and deserve to be treated as such. Of course, to be a traitor you much first be an American. Which you ain't. But we will get you anyway. You have defiled my country, its elected leaders, its military heros. You have lied about all the aforementioned. You are a traitor. You will get yours. Time is on Americas side. We will demand that traitors like you be punished for their crimes against this nation. You will not walk free.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 25, 2005 02:18 AM (CBNGy)

34 Bush and Klanooster will share the same prison cell once this horrible war for oil is over and Bin Laden is dead like the gopher I blew away.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 25, 2005 02:35 AM (ScqM8)

35 Only thing you blew was Bin Laden.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 28, 2005 03:32 AM (CBNGy)

36 You are a pigjumping racist brute Klan Rooster!

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 28, 2005 03:55 AM (ScqM8)

37 Now here the truth. The tragic 911 horrified everyone in the world, including Muslims, Jews and Christians. But what most people have never known is that this tragedy was put together by the US as an excuse way back in the 60's when (possibly the greatest) President Kennedy was in power. They were going to use this incident than to attack Cuba. This did not happen as the President rejected the idea. But decades down the line a hard line Christian Fundamentalist did not think of the consequences and jumped to the idea. This was all planned, Bin Ladden was a CIA man, and I really feel sorry for the American people. Why should a toss pot like Bush drag this good nation into such hatred of the east? As you are aware Islam has grown considerably, and Bush and others realized this has become a threat to America a long time ago Believe me, every incident you here is all conspiracy. The Member of Parliament Robin Cook dies suddenly! The poor guy was totally against this War and resigned. They killed him off and made it look like a heart Attack. ItÂ’s not hard for the government to do this, believe me. ItÂ’s a shame there is so much hatred. Before Bush came to power a good President was in power called Clinton. Ok he was not perfect but no way was there so much tension and hatred in the world as there is today. So thank you President Monkey Bush, 3 more years of this? What next Iran. Obviously. If the Jews get there way they will use the thick headed President to bomb Iran. But why? What have they done to hurt anyone? Who has used nuclear in the past 60 years? I hope that these 3 years go by quickly and someone with some brains brings stability to the world before a 3rd world war faces us. God help us from the hands of a mad Christian fundamentalist! One last point. Were you aware that the President great grandfather had a book published against the Islam religion? Look it up. Thanks for your time.

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July 18, 2005

Al Jazeera: U.S. Soldiers Killed the 32 Children*

Who was responsible for killing 32 Iraqi children lined up to get candy from members of the United States military? Al Qaida in Iraq claims they were not at fault. Al Jazeera* has found out who is responsible; the United States military (via Ace).

Iraqi experts are saying that the recent car bomb that killed some 18 children was not the work of the anti-occupation fighters but of the U.S. occupation troops.
A traffic lieutenant who asked not to be identified said to a media source that U.S. solders crazily raced out of the street less than a minute before the explosion and that after the blast they did not return to the bomb scene but continued to hurry out of the area.

Yes, the United States military drove a car into a crowded pack of children and right next to other United States soldiers to detonate an explosive. Instead of yelling out "Allah Akhbar" they yelled "Git'r'done!"

Perhaps the soldiers were tyring to secure the perimeter or they were wary of a second attack as has been the case on several occassions? Nah, for Al Jazeera* it's better to go ahead and print conspiracy theories as truth only when that conspiracy theory damages the enemy. Logic need not apply.

*As alerted by The Commissar, Aljazeera.com is not the same as Al Jazeera the Arab media station.

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1 aljazeera.com is NOT the well-known al-Jazeera, which uses aljazeera.net. It may seem hard to believe, but aljazeera.com is even WORSE that regular al-Jaz. This is worth clarifying in the post. (Unless the same article appears on .net)

Posted by: The Commissar at July 18, 2005 02:40 PM (BYgNQ)

2 I did not know that. Correction is in the works.

Posted by: Chad at July 18, 2005 02:49 PM (Ievlo)

3 Slightly off topic, but still about bombings. London bomber made one-day Israel visit "JERUSALEM, July 18 (Reuters) - London bomber made one-day Israel visit - The government official said Mohammad Sidique Khan, who London police believe blew himself up on an underground train this month, arrived in Israel on Feb. 19, 2003, and left the next day. The official declined to speculate on reasons for the visit." http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L18303603.htm "But trust us, it isn't because he was working for Mossad or Shin Bet or anything like that. And you're an anti-Semite if you say he was, so THERE!" My buddy went to Israel recently. He has a German last name, but is half Bengali on his mother's side. He got the full cavity search treatment (a free prostate exam, what a deal!). When I asked him why the hell he went to Israel in the first place, he just said he had always wanted to go there. I don't think he'll ever go back.

Posted by: greg at July 18, 2005 03:15 PM (3D/yw)

4 Also slightly off topic, but still about bombings. BIG BOMBINGS! "Exercise to focus on nuclear terror scenario Sudden Response 05 will take place this August on Fort Monroe and will be carried out as an internal command post exercise. The exercise is intended to train the JTF-CS staff to plan and execute Consequence Management operations in support of Federal Emergency Management Agency Region IVÂ’s response to a nuclear detonation." With the NORAD and FEMA "exercises" on 9-11, and the "terror drill" on 7-7, the announcement of a nuclear terror drill here in the US in August (coupled with the booga booga of an "Iranian nookular terror attack" flooding the MSM and the neocon blogs) should be a cause of concern.

Posted by: greg at July 18, 2005 03:22 PM (3D/yw)

5 And then there'as this: "Top Chinese General Warns US Over Attack Financial Times | July 15, 2005 By Alexandra Harney, Demetri Sevastopulo& Edward Alden China is prepared to use nuclear weapons against the US if it is attacked by Washington during a confrontation over Taiwan, a Chinese general said on Thursday. "If the Americans draw their missiles and position-guided ammunition on to the target zone on China's territory, I think we will have to respond with nuclear weapons," said General Zhu Chenghu." KAPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM! You all know that all this Mideast shit is just a warm up for the Big One with China and Russia. Give me a war that actually reduces our National Debt and our Taxes and I'll support it. Why do they always have to be on my nickel?

Posted by: greg at July 18, 2005 04:12 PM (3D/yw)

6 You know, for some reason I wouldn't really mind if it was the U.S. military who used the car bomb attack (even though it isn't even slightly true). Who do these fascists think we are? Who do these fascists think the rest of the world are? People are much smarter than this. God bless our troops. They need all the blessings they can get. Tyler

Posted by: Tyler at July 18, 2005 04:19 PM (sfBcR)

7 This just in: Osama Bin Laden once ate at a kosher deli, showing incontrovertible proof that Al Qaeda is a Jooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooish plot. In further news, greg is still a moron. No change is expected in his condition. By the way greg, I called an old buddy of mine, he's a Jooooooo, and told him all about you. Big deal, right? Yeah. The thing is, he knows an old ex-Mossad guy who is now very interested in this blog and your comments, and has probably passed on a tip to some nice Jewish boys. You see, they watch people like you, and you probably now have a file in Mossad HQ. Mazel Tov, dipshit!

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 18, 2005 05:12 PM (0yYS2)

8 IM, What you don't realize is that I'm NSA. I leak classified secrets to help right my country, which is no longer a Constitutional Republic. I'll give that old fart of an ex-Mossad agent a second circumcision. I'm watching you. We have a special mission for you. I can't tell you what it is, just be ready.

Posted by: greg at July 19, 2005 01:20 AM (3D/yw)

9 Is it worse than Al-Pazeera aka the AP?

Posted by: Marcus Aurelius at July 19, 2005 06:35 AM (TDFQ2)

10 Greg the traitor claiming to have a buddy!!!!!!!!! What a bunch of crap. IM: Refer them to me. I've got the idiots address, background, employment and anything else they need to know. Our tracker got him over month ago. That's why I can say he's full of shit. The brotherhood has its uses.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 22, 2005 08:48 PM (CBNGy)

11 Bunch of closet homosexual bigots. All of you! Get a frickin' Life!

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July 17, 2005

I'm Opposed to Terrorism (Unless You're a Jew in which case it's 'legitimate resistance' and not really 'terrorism' at all)

What he said.

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Tony Blair' Speech: Genius & Jawa Report Reader

Apologies to the Lord of Moons (aka, Allah) for breaking my Sabbath commitment today but Tony Blair gave a speech yesterday that literally had my jaw dropping. My wife was stunned that I used a profanity, something I never do around the house, when I said something like, "Holy shit, Tony Blair is the first politician I've ever heard who actually gets it." And his speech was so close to something I had just written the day before that I can't help but think that Tony Blair, or one of his speechwriters, reads The Jawa Report.

Here is the text of the most honest and amazing speech I've heard from a politician since 9/11. Not only does it correctly identify the war as one not against terror but against an evil fascist ideology but was also given with courage and conviction. Tony Blair's speech, in my mind, is right up there with John F. Kennedy's innagural in which he warned "every nation...whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty."

Text of Blair's speech. Read it all: more...

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1 The knuckledraggers at the Guardian should have Blair's speech tatooed on their sloping foreheads.

Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at July 17, 2005 05:28 PM (RHG+K)

2 Here here Mr Blair.

Posted by: Howie at July 17, 2005 05:33 PM (D3+20)

3 he may not be a genuis on the scale of Einstein but the man has balls and is the best friend that the US can have going right now....i hope this is the first and not the last sign we see that some politicians are finally getting the whole and entire picture on the war against these scumbag terrorist groups

Posted by: THANOS35 at July 17, 2005 05:34 PM (5sR9u)

4 a great speech, but once again we are in denial that Islam is the problem. Muslims must re-create "the true face of Islam". Islam needs a reformation like that which happened in the 16th century for Christianity. Even "moderate" muslims are taught from their earliest moments to blame the jews for everything bad that happens...

Posted by: Mr. K at July 17, 2005 07:02 PM (u5efY)

5 OMG, Tony Blair actually recognized Israel in a speech? He actually admits that the terrorists what Israel obliterated? Hmmm, I have a new respect for the man (but not that nasty Jack Straw, never for Jack Straw, he's one of the main reasons the UK is so damned socialist. No, nyet, nada, never to the Jack Straws, Galloways and Livingstones.) The world needs another Churchill. (I'm afraid Mr. Blair just isn't Churchill quality even with that great speech .. sad but true.)

Posted by: Bubbe at July 17, 2005 07:14 PM (cbAi4)

6 Mr. K is so correct. I believe Blair is a great man. A great and courageous leader. The best. I just cannot understand his lack of conviction that the problem is Islam. The bombings are being done by RELIGIOUS fanatics. Mr. Blair seems to be dodging the issue. I cannot see the value of minimizing the issue. The friggin muslim morons are the problem. Same as they are a problem anywhere they live. IS TONY BLAIR SCARED OF ALL THE MUSLIMS ENGLAND HAS ALLOWED TO MOVE TO ENGLAND. Is he ignoring the issue for fear of internal strife. If so he needs to call the British troops back tomorrow and get things straight in England first. Better than a slow death. I still say massive deportations from Europe is the only salvation for Europe. The muslims will turn Europe into the same shit holes they came from.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 20, 2005 12:33 AM (CBNGy)

7 You are a warmonger and an ignorant ass.

Posted by: Gil Bassak at August 05, 2005 12:35 AM (tBMSJ)

8 How is it, some have wondered, that the Republican Party has been taken over by a relatively small band of radical ideologues who don't believe in democracy or honesty or any specific religion, but relentlessly flog the language of "freedom," "honor," and Christianity? How is it that people who run the government into deficit can campaign on fiscal responsibility? Or that people who campaign on a "pro life" position can be responsible for lying us into a war that has killed well over 100,000 human beings, nakedly advocate torture, and openly promote the death penalty in America?

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July 13, 2005

Remembering Fallen Heroes

My grandfather, a Marine killed in the Pacific theatre during WWII, is buried in the Punchbowl. He and his fallen brothers are joined by five heroes of the Afghanistan campaign. I am thankful for their sacrifice and proud of their service. God speed and rest in peace.

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1 Their deaths mean something. The quote 'every man dies, not every man truly lives' comes to mind when I think of the fallen dead.

Posted by: Carlos at July 13, 2005 09:57 PM (8e/V4)

2 Better it is to dare mighty things, than to take rank with those poor, timid spirits who know neither victory nor defeat.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 13, 2005 10:59 PM (0yYS2)

3 Semper Fidelis encapsulates what we all think ...

Posted by: Leopold Stotch at July 13, 2005 11:54 PM (oldnN)

4 Does this include all the Iraqis who got killed from the PACKS OF LIES that Bush told?

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 14, 2005 05:49 AM (ScqM8)

5 My Grandfather was shot in the neck in WWII, but survived. His brother, my Great Uncle Percy Stevens, died in the Battle of the Bulge. My g-g-g-g-great grandfather, Josiah Hatcher Baugh, was wounded in the thigh in the Battle of Cowpens in the Revolutionary War. He never had the bullet (musket ball?) removed and died in later years. Two other ancestors were instrumental in capturing two miscreants who ran amok killing people and robbing them immediately after the Civil War and hung them in Mississippi. We have many interesting ancestors.

Posted by: Oyster at July 14, 2005 05:55 AM (YudAC)

6 War kills and is good for NOTHING

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 14, 2005 08:58 AM (ScqM8)

7 "War kills and is good for NOTHING" Well, it's good for KILLING.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 14, 2005 09:16 AM (x+5JB)

8 Words kill as well. I have some Yin for your Yang DSM, If you continue to grind your blade,on the stone of hatred, the edge will be come a dull as your wit. War stopped Hitler, Saddam, Idi Amin, Musolini, Tojo, The Ottoman Turks, The Mongols, Huns, and even Moslems. The fear of losing war halted the spread of Communism, and Keeps China in check. It also ended the genocide in the Balkans. In fact, it is the threat of the horrors of war that enable people to consider peace before war.

Posted by: Kstumpf at July 14, 2005 09:38 AM (GImrl)

9 DSM is a childish git who adds nothing. Isn't it way past time to ban his ass? This is the 2nd 'memorial' thread I have seen him pissing on today.

Posted by: Defense Guy at July 14, 2005 10:10 AM (jPCiN)

10 Rusty, I'm all for freedom of speech, as you know, but may I suggest a policy of banning people who shit in memorial threads like DSM and greg are doing.

Posted by: Carlos at July 14, 2005 10:17 AM (8e/V4)

11 No one is pissing on memorial threads. How dare you suggest so.

Posted by: greg at July 14, 2005 11:14 AM (Y6Yy8)

12 Carlos:"I'm all for freedom of speech, as you know, but may I suggest a policy of banning people who shit in memorial threads like DSM and greg are doing." How did I dishonor the dead? By quoting a grieving mother who lost her son? My hope is that we can reduce the number of war dead to zero. In so doing, I honor our soldiers and humanity. You disappoint me today Carlos. You've gone rabid on me. It must be the Texas sun. Have a drink. I'm stinking drunk on vodka. Let me fill your glass so we can drink to better times.

Posted by: greg at July 14, 2005 11:24 AM (Y6Yy8)

13 Perhaps it's none of my business because this isn't my blog, but I too have to wonder why one who blatantly demands reasoning and respect while they insult you and shit on your carpet doesn't get banned. Just an observation. No offense, but I honestly have enjoyed most of the time I've visited here and wish to thank you for your hospitality. Yet, I'm thinking of going elsewhere for "reasoned" discourse even if it's dissenting. This has really gotten out of hand and way too much time is wasted countering Greg's and DSM's constant badgering and inanities that escalate into disgusting insults about mothers and sisters. I get a little peeved at a couple other people here and wish they'd tone down their talk a bit, but at least they're simply giving an opinion, not spreading known lies, wild conspiracies and blatant disrespect for just about everyone.

Posted by: Oyster at July 14, 2005 11:36 AM (fl6E1)

14 Lostrova(?), Chin Chin, Salute, Down the Hatch, Here's Mud in Your Eye, One for the Road, I'm Even, Let's Get Odd, Roll Another One, etc.! "Can't we all get along", The Prophet, Rodney King. Gluteus, I'm going to kick your dainty ass, from here to Dallas. How do you find the pussy on the morbidly obese Gluteus Maximus? Roll him in flour and look for the wet spot.

Posted by: greg at July 14, 2005 11:42 AM (Y6Yy8)

15 When I was banned, Rusty posted on the subject of Muslims bleeding sheep by slitting their throats while they were still alive. Oyster replied, 'I think I'm getting sick'. Having run cattle for many years in Texas, I went to Oyster's blog and made an innocent post, declaring him to be a 'city slicker' and explaining that when cattle are butchered, they are knocked out with a pneumatic piston, raised up by their hind quarters aND their throats are slit so they can be blead while their hearts still beat. Any farm boy knows this, just ask Howie, he'll tell you. It's the same thing for pigs. Oyster freaked out, claiming I was 'polluting' his web site. He clearly over reacted. I think he's a Vegan. Pay him no mind. Oyster, if you don't like my posts, don't read them. Have a stiff drink and chill out.

Posted by: greg at July 14, 2005 11:53 AM (Y6Yy8)

16 "My hope is that we can reduce the number of war dead to zero." In times of war, this would be difficult indeed. I would say that your goal is to have this war called a mistake and cease to be (along with Bush). BTW, olive or onion in that martini?

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 14, 2005 12:26 PM (x+5JB)

17 greg, you don't show up at a funeral and start ranting to everybody how the guy died for nothing and how he was just a big dupe. You would be kicked out on your ass-- jst as you should on a thread to commerate the fallen dead.

Posted by: Carlos at July 14, 2005 12:35 PM (8e/V4)

18 Greg maybe boozing and blogging don't mix well. Greg can at times be reasoned with and has been banned before. Many of you fall for his bait and try to argue with him and then well it all goes to crap. For sure if he gets too ornery he will loose my support as well but as a long standing character here I've cut him some slack. I've stuck my neck out for him twice now and so has YBP. I think he has very little slack left. If greg chooses to get himself banned again his mission will suffer because he will have no place to express it. I don't disagree with you Carlos on this one just took me a few tries to see where y'all had went. Now angry there is no reasoning with him even if you are nice but he demonstrates his foolishness well enough on his own without the rest of us having to point that out. If you see comments that are "over the line" and deserve to be taken down email me or Rusty. Carlos the only thing that has been bothering me about you is the R rated spelled out profanity. Others take the time to put it in code. Greg has been and always will be greg. To argue with him is just not going to work. Also for angry I would hate to go through my whole life angry. Got to suck to be you. You will never change a single mind with that drivel you post. Entertain maybe but actually accomplish anything no. So far today some strong comments. Some stupid ones. Some may have been a bit off for the thread they were on. Pretty normal. greg is worrying the heck out of me I sense he lacks inhibition today. Please greg put down the booze or the keyboard one or the other. And yes butchering is gross that is why I avoid it at all costs if I can but greg has the process pretty much down. Don't foget to tie off the rectum before you gut the whole deal carefully. Yuck good eatin but hard work. You tend to appreciate a cow or pig more while eating if you knew it and cared for it killed it and butchered it. Ours are like big ass pets until freezer time. Greg has been warned I hope he gets it but it's up to him. We have all bent over backwards for him. If he chooses to disrespect our hospitality and continue I'm sure Rusty will pull out that banning sabre.

Posted by: Howie at July 14, 2005 02:14 PM (D3+20)

19 dude, if the blog moderators, or even fellow bloggers are bothered by profanity I have no problems whatsoever with that. I'm not emotionally attachment to my potty mouth. I'll spell it in code. Re commerative threads, it's my opinion that they should be politics-free zones, like funerals. If we Americans can't agree even on that then I truly weep for this country.

Posted by: Carlos at July 14, 2005 03:19 PM (8e/V4)

20 Carlos--Not quite sure which comments Howie was referring to. I don't think that you were the one who wanted to roll IM in flour, were you???

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 14, 2005 03:28 PM (x+5JB)

21 referring to me IM:'You need your guts spilled, you subhuman scumbag. Posted by Improbulus Maximus at July 14, 2005 02:46 PM

Posted by: greg at July 14, 2005 04:13 PM (j6I6j)

22 Referring to me IM:'You piece of shit leftards just need to be taken out and shot. Posted by Improbulus Maximus at July 14, 2005 11:19 AM

Posted by: greg at July 14, 2005 04:16 PM (j6I6j)

23 RUSTY YBP HOWIE OYSTER Please see my 2 previous posts. Given that IM threatens my life at least twice a day, maybe you can cut me some slack for wanting to "roll IM in flour". Let's be fair please.

Posted by: greg at July 14, 2005 04:21 PM (j6I6j)

24 Greg, How can you do this to me? I thought we were at least non combatants towards each other. But now I see you want to start polluting my home town. greg: "Gluteus, I'm going to kick your dainty ass, from here to Dallas." If you are going to kick his ass, have the decency to do it all the way up to Lubbock. It stinks up there already due to the slaughter pens.

Posted by: Butch at July 14, 2005 04:34 PM (Gqhi9)

25 Butch, I can see why you would be offended. As we say about pollution, "Don't Mess with Texas". Is Oklahoma OK (no pun intended)?

Posted by: greg at July 14, 2005 04:39 PM (j6I6j)

26 i just found this site a few days ago and wanted to see more of it until i posted. but i really can't think of much to add to any threads because, well, things seem to get slightly off topic. no, they usually don't even refer to the topic at all. but that's okay. i have to say that i kind of like how easy it is to push buttons just by a few sentences. i'm drawn to all the "greg drama." which is probably because my b/f's name also happens to be greg. so i tend to side with you (greg) at the end of your guys' arguments. so that's not really logical, but true all the same. and i see you may be in danger of getting the boot from this site, so i invite you and all your friends to come play at http://mostembarrassingmoment.com/forum/index.php. the site name may be misleading, or uninteresting for some, and i have to warn you that there are i think a large number of younger kids (10-??), but there is a forum on that website devoted to just "chit-chat." the chit-chat is usually more mature in content. But i think they need some more opinionated people on there to argue. so maybe i'll see you there...

Posted by: terra at July 14, 2005 06:09 PM (llDmc)

27 just want to add that the site i listed has no educational value. news reports, found on this jawa site, are few and far between on the one i mentioned. i don't want to mislead anyone.

Posted by: terra at July 14, 2005 06:30 PM (llDmc)

28 "the site i listed has no educational value." Perfect for you Greg, exchanging ideas with lots of "younger kids (10-??)"!!! She wants you, Greg.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 14, 2005 06:41 PM (zL3KD)

29 My above post was done in jest. Although I disagree with Greg on the WOT, Bush, etc., I wish him health and happiness. And a change of opinion on the WOT, Bush, etc.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 14, 2005 07:03 PM (zL3KD)

30 greg you on I want to show everyone a trick

Posted by: Hoiwie at July 14, 2005 07:07 PM (D3+20)

31 YBP I see you are on

Posted by: Howie at July 14, 2005 07:10 PM (D3+20)

32 I've been lurking for some time and don't post very often but I will say this, Greg, I rarely agree with you on ANYTHING but at least you have something more substantive to add then BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED or some variation thereof. (IMHO), However, DSM reminds me of the BUSH LIES ass clown, show up, throw up a variation of the same tired thought and move on. Fact of the matter is, you don't like Bush, you probably don't like conservatives, hell for all I know you hate puppies and kittens, but we got your point the first thousand times you said it. What I'm saying is if you have a cogent point, please share it, you might change some minds or at least provoke a thoughtful discussion. Otherwise, it's just annoying and eventually turns into another barrage of back and forth insults. Though for sheer entertainment value, sometimes they're fun.

Posted by: disgruntledinca at July 14, 2005 08:32 PM (IpG/2)

33 I'll tell you all a little secret about greg: greg almost always always responds in kind to how he is treated with little exception. Treat him well and you'll get the same.

Posted by: Hoiwie at July 14, 2005 09:08 PM (D3+20)

34 Howie: I think people should treat others as they want to. All the cards on the table. Honest, whether that means being rude or otherwise. If they step over the line, Rusty or you or another designee can step in, but I think all admonitions should be public, not private.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 15, 2005 06:45 AM (x+5JB)

35 Greg, OK is ok. I went to Army boot camp there and never liked it since. And because it is hell, according to the song "Never been to Spain", I feel it would be good.

Posted by: Butch at July 15, 2005 07:43 AM (Gqhi9)

36 Greg's a lunatic and his politics aren't worth a dime, but he's gentle as a lamb if you don't flame him.

Posted by: Carlos at July 15, 2005 10:01 AM (8e/V4)

37 Let it be known that Carlos is not a flamer.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 15, 2005 10:34 AM (x+5JB)

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No evidence yet Iran leader involved in 1979 siege

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