I will be in Washington, D.C. with a group of students from May 14th-22nd. I should make it to the Capital just in time to join the last hour of
. Any one who would like to join me there is welcome. (Hat tip:
Also a whole bunch of us will be getting together some time that week. E-mail me and let me know if you want to get together for some grub or whatever and what is the best time for you.
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"reject radical Islam"
Non-muslims will certainly be able to live more safely with a watered-down, "friendly" version.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 08, 2005 02:51 PM (x+5JB)
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It looks like these guys are the real deal. When they say 'radical' you can bet they mean 'basically 90% of mainstream Islam' as well. These guys have the nads to not only reject terrorism but to one up the 'moderates' and reject sharia as well.
Posted by: Rusty at April 08, 2005 03:12 PM (ywZa8)
Posted by: Carlos at April 08, 2005 03:15 PM (8e/V4)
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I wonder what groups will come protest this...
I'll be there!
Posted by: The Babaganoosh at April 08, 2005 03:48 PM (2Sfuq)
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"When they say 'radical' you can bet they mean 'basically 90% of mainstream Islam' as well."
Rusty: Maybe I'm tired, but I'm not following you here...
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 08, 2005 03:55 PM (x+5JB)
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Go home. Have some bourbon. Wnat I mean is that these guys are actually (at least according to their literature) far more progressive than mainstream Muslim organizations and reject 'moderate' theology in favor of one that does not, you know, advocate sharia.
Posted by: Rusty at April 08, 2005 04:24 PM (ywZa8)
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Not so fast. I know their president, Kamal Nawash, and have known him for some time (went to law school together, in fact).
This is more than likely a front group, either for his own political ambitions (nothing wrong with that, I suppose, though Kamal is close to functionally illiterate) or something more sinister. If you check up on Daniel Pipes' website, you'll see that Kamal had some dealings with rather unsavory fellows that he took money from during his Virginia state senate run.
Also, he was a mouthpiece for various Arab "civil rights" groups, and openly decried the government for screening Arab passengers on airplanes. Before 9/11.
Look it up.
Posted by: anonymous at April 08, 2005 08:35 PM (hr05P)
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Rusty,
LetÂ’s get something straight here. These "progressives" you speak DO represent views of the majority of Muslims living in Europe and the United States. If you go to a Mosque in your town, you are not going to hear about terrorist recruitment or learn about the advancements of beheading techniques. I would go as far as saying that they represent the views of the majority of Islam in the entire world.
The only problem is that the Muslims who don't live in the US or Europe live under suppressive dictatorships ran by Islamic fundamentalists who choose to interpret the religion without reform; and at the expense of human rights and liberties. If they speak out against them then they are severely punished as you well know.
So when they say "radical", they do not mean 90% of mainstream Islam. They mean the 10% that represent extremists and fundamentalists that govern Islamic countries and use their "faith" as an excuse to murder innocents.
With that said, I wonder if you think that the religion is still as worthless as you did before. If it is possible for people to "reject radical Islam", then isn't it possible to salvage something from the "evil" religion?
Posted by: Jim at April 08, 2005 08:48 PM (jcSwY)
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Dude! Have your people call my people, and let's get together for some beverages....
Posted by: Steve TLB at April 08, 2005 10:40 PM (eVpBU)
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It is commendable that any group of people renounce violence and embrace tolerance.
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 09, 2005 12:03 AM (fufbw)
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Thanks for the clarification, Rusty.
"...the religion is still as worthless as you did before. If it is possible for people to "reject radical Islam", then isn't it possible to salvage something from the "evil" religion?"
I tnink everyone knows what I think about it...
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 09, 2005 08:37 AM (gMCAD)
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I also think I need to proofread.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 09, 2005 08:39 AM (gMCAD)
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Jim,
You completely misunderstand. Even moderate Muslims (usually) will agree that Sharia law is required. In my book, such a belief is every bit as dangerous as Marxism ever was.
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 11, 2005 11:46 AM (JQjhA)
Posted by: greyrooster at April 11, 2005 11:02 PM (CBNGy)
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