January 19, 2006

Department of Justice: Warrantless Wiretaps Legal (original document and analysis)

The Department of Justice has backed the Bush Administration's claim that the President has inherent authority to listen to international phone calls with suspeced terrorists abroad. Raw Story broke the news earlier today by leaking the DoJ document which outlines the legal authority for the President to defend Americans at home from international terrorists.

A complete copy of the Department of Justice memorandum can be dowloaded here.

Thanks to Confederate Yankee who has comments on the document here. Jason also has comments here. I will be eager to see what others are saying about this memo.

The document is very legalistic. At the heart of it, though, is the assumption that the war against radical Islamists is a real war. If a real war then we must fight it like a war. Wiretapping, then, is a form of spying on our enemies. The normal rules do not apply in war.

The opposing side wishes to treat the global conflict we are engaged in as if it were a simple criminal matter. Wiretapping a terrorist is like wiretapping a drug lord and the normal rules apply.

A few highlights:

On September 11, 2001, the al Qaeda terrorist network launched the deadliest foreign attack on American soil in history. Al Qaeda’s leadership repeatedly has pledged to attack the United States again at a time of its choosing, and these terrorist organizations continue to pose a grave threat to the United States. In response to the September 11th attacks and the continuing threat, the President, with broad congressional approval, has acted to protect the Nation from another terrorist attack. In the immediate aftermath of September 11th, the President promised that “[w]e will direct every resource at our command—every means of diplomacy, every tool of intelligence, every tool of law enforcement, every financial influence, and every weapon of war—to the destruction of and to the defeat of the global terrorist network.” President Bush Address to a Joint Session of Congress (Sept. 20, 2001). The NSA activities are an indispensable aspect of this defense of the Nation. By targeting the international communications into and out of the United States of persons reasonably believed to be linked to al Qaeda, these activities provide the United States with an early warning system to help avert the next attack. For the following reasons, the NSA activities are lawful and consistent with civil liberties.
Great opening. Let's see Ted Kennedy argue with that.

For the historically retarded amongst us:

In reliance on these principles, a consistent understanding has developed that the President has inherent constitutional authority to conduct warrantless searches and surveillance within the United States for foreign intelligence purposes. Wiretaps for such purposes thus have been authorized by Presidents at least since the administration of Franklin Roosevelt in 1940.
What? Not FDR? Say it isn't so. It is so. The more educated on the Left will admit that FDR (and all other war time Presidents) engaged in the same sorts of activities that Bush is engaging in. But they will argue, like I heard Gore Vidal argue in the recent History Channel documentary on Abraham Lincoln, that those wars were real wars and those actions (such as Lincoln arresting newspaper publishers) were needed to save the country wheras Bush's war is illigitimate and therefore his actions are despotic. See how that works? If you agree with the war then curtailing of civil liberties is okay, but if you disagree with it then curtailing civil liberties are not okay. I wonder how the Northern Peace Democrats felt about Lincoln's actions? But I digress, back to FDR in a letter to his Attorney General.
You are, therefore, authorized and directed in such cases as you may approve, after investigation of the need in each case, to authorize the necessary investigation agents that they are at liberty to secure information by listening devices directed to the conversation or other communications of persons suspected of subversive activities against the Government of the United States, including suspected spies. You are requested furthermore to limit these investigations so conducted to a minimum and limit them insofar as possible to aliens.
Ouch. It goes on to show that Truman had a similar view. Then Carter's AG testifying in front of Congress as it was debating FISA:
the current bill recognizes no inherent power of the President to conduct electronic surveillance, and I want to interpolate here to say that this does not take away the power [of] the President under the Constitution.”
Then the much quoted Clinton defense of the same act. Then some case law.

What is interesting is that the Justice Department also argues that Congress authorized the President to wiretap. For instance:

It is also clear that the [Congressional Resolution] confirms and supports the President’s use of those traditional incidents of military force against the enemy, wherever they may be—on United States soil or abroad....

To take action against those linked to the September 11th attacks involves taking action against individuals within the United States. The United States had been attacked on its own soil—not by aircraft launched from carriers several hundred miles away, but by enemy agents who had resided in the United States
for months. A crucial responsibility of the President—charged by the [Congressonal Resolution] and the Constitution—was and is to identify and attack those enemies, especially if they were in the United States, ready to strike against the Nation.

Indeed, if Congress did declare war--which the most certainly did--then it is up to the President how to direct that war, not Congress. That is a simple separation of powers issue.

The history of Presidential intelligence gathering is also elucidated. Fascinating stuff. For instance, I had no idea about this:

George Washington, who “was a master of military espionage” and “made frequent and effective use of secret intelligence in the second half of the eighteenth century.”... As President in 1790, Washington obtained from Congress a “secret fund” to deal with foreign dangers and to be spent at his discretion...[to search] “for persons sent publicly and secretly to search for important information, political or
commercial,”
Indeed. During the Revolutionary War, fought on America soil:
In fact, Washington himself proposed that one of his Generals “contrive a means of opening [British letters] without breaking the seals, take copies of the contents, and then let them go on.”
There goes that fascist Washington again, reading mail without a warrant!

And here it gets to some of my favorite stuff. Unknown to most of our historically retarded public, censorship, actual and literal censorship, has traditionally been part of our war time heritage:

on December 8, 1941, the day after the attack on Pearl Harbor, President Roosevelt gave the Director of the FBI “temporary powers to direct all news censorship and to control all other telecommunications traffic in and out of the United States.”
So I guess FDR and Hitler were made of the same stripe? Oh, I guess that was different, er, somehow. Further:
The President’s order gave the Government of the United States access to “communications by mail, cable, radio, or other means of transmission passing between the United States and any foreign country.”
There is then a discussion of FISA, and how warrantless wiretapping does not contradict that statute either since Congress, in it's declaration of War after 9/11, authorized the President to use all means necessary to protect the U.S. This is a statutory authorization, as foreseen in the FISA enabling bill.

From there it goes into some pretty dry legalistic arguments. Rather boring, from my standpoint. But there is this:

In World War II, for example, the Supreme Court recognized that the PresidentÂ’s authority as Commander in Chief, as supplemented by Congress, included the power to capture and try agents of the enemy in the United States, even if they never had
“entered the theatre or zone of active military operations.”
There is then a discussion of the Fourth Amendment. You might think that since I am a libertarian this would concern me. It does not. The problem with most civil libertarians is they are worried abuot procudural liberties. That is, if the government interferes in your life then it is ok as long as due process was followed (eg, they got a warrant before they searched your home for drugs).

I believe in substantive liberty. If the ends of government be legitimate, then go ahead and employ all means necessary to procuring that end. I just happen to think that telling people not to take drugs or that they can't sell their body is not a necessary end. Preventing terrorism, though, is. And as the memo states:

Defending the Nation from attack is perhaps the most
important function of the federal Government—and one of the few express obligations of the federal Government enshrined in the Constitution.

Posted by: Rusty at 08:25 PM | Comments (37) | Add Comment
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1 >>>If you agree with the war then curtailing of civil liberties is okay, but if you disagree with it then curtailing civil liberties are not okay. Rusty, thanks for the article and your comments, and for showing us once again how Liberalism is a mental disorder. The funniest thing about it is how seriously they take themselves and how absolutely retarded we see them. lmao!

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 19, 2006 09:36 PM (8e/V4)

2 I must say pretty good reading. Thanks I was bored.

Posted by: Howie at January 19, 2006 09:42 PM (D3+20)

3 Its not an issue of LAW - it is an issue of WAR Keep that in mind 'cause the left is going to be all over this as exclusively LAW - and work very hard to seperate the issues from the subjects (or targets) of the issues. They are anti-war and anti-administration - this issue is just ammo for them in that battle. They will attempt to personalize this with loads of "what if" arguments with them and the American people as the targets (potential or otherwise). This is public relations! - they know this will play out in the public arena - and they know that's where they are weak an vulnerable. That's why they attempt to disassociate this from AQ & 9/11. They need it to (portrayed as) both expansively abused and and a failure to boot! Under no circumstances will they allow or acknowledge that THIS ASPECT ALONE IS PRIMARILY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FAILURE OF AQ TO LAUNCH ANY FURTHER SUCCESSFUL ATTACKS WITHIN THE US. The Left hold most of the American people in intellectual contempt (not just conservatives). Anyone who doesn't share their beliefs is either evil or stupid - but they know they must still play to a segment of that group if they are to be successful. Their "arguments" are the play and targeted at non-conservatives (who they consider dumb and racists etc. anyway) who would shug off the whole issue ... unless they can connect and personalize it to them. That's how you fight these people - not as armchair lawyers - they like that - semantic BS is their favorite beverage.

Posted by: hondo at January 19, 2006 10:06 PM (3aakz)

4 >>>Anyone who doesn't share their beliefs is either evil or stupid I know. That one falls under the 'pure irony' column. And your observation that the Left plays to the very cud chewers whom they hold in utter contempt is spot on. They care about the "little guy", but only when they aren't mocking his religious beliefs and his "lack of education" and how "poor" he is. What utter assholes these Lefties are.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 19, 2006 10:29 PM (8e/V4)

5 Oh, my, the Lefties are about to get in another snit! Good, because I love it.

Posted by: jesusland joe at January 19, 2006 10:34 PM (rUyw4)

6 You people have a road block in your brains and to be candid, its quite scary. The FISA Court allows you to go ahead and tap the phone line, and then get the warrant 72 hours later. In other words, you have 72 hours to listen in on the conversation before actually getting the warrant. THAT EQUALS 3 DAYS. And if you really wanna get down to it, during a state of war, you can tap the phone and get the warrant 15 days later. The FISA Court is a complete rubber stamp. There have been over 18,000 requests while only 5 have been denied by the FISA Court. What I've just laid out shouldn't be that tough to comprehend. Bush has obviously broken the law and you people just want to blame the Democrats for his criminal behaviors. But in all actuality, blaming the Democrats is the only real rhetoric you people know how to convey to each other. Lets blame the Democrats for all of Bush's massive failures. How convenient, but yet at the same time, its all we know how to do. History will one day play out and say that Bush was by far the worst President ever to govern this country...Duh... I suppose what is most sad is the fact that you people obviously dont give a damn about our Constitution. Our Constitution is what separates this country from every other country in the world and it's disgraceful that you people dont mind if Bush just goes ahead and pisses all over it. It's also absurd to believe that Bush has the "inherent authority as Commander in Chief" to conduct wiretaps without a warrant. His authority is not above the law. And if you have forgotten already, he has 3 days to tap the call, and then go and get the warrant..But wait, you all still dont seem to understand this. Let me repeat myself again--tap the phone, then 72 hours later go and get the warrant. The resolution that was passed after Sep. 11 did not include wiretapping without a warrant. If you dont believe me, I welcome you to go back and read it for yourself. Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, John Gibson..These are the individuals you people must admire.....DISGRACEFUL YET EMBARRASSING

Posted by: SGESMU at January 20, 2006 01:35 AM (NaPbI)

7 Example - above apx 400+ words 1) word (war) used once and only in a generalization 2) sep 11 used only one as as a point of time and not an event 3) total emphasis on LAW 4) (This is also important but I haven't pointed it out yet) see above - FISA Court/18000 requests/5 rejections. Note: FISA clearly used in vast bulk of cases - this whole bruha is over "exceptions" - Left however desperately needs to imply "exceptions are massive" and FISA is being totally ignored. Thanks for the assistance SGESMU - you were quite helpful.

Posted by: hondo at January 20, 2006 01:51 AM (3aakz)

8 Oh, forgot ... opening line ... road block in your brains ... translation - you are stupid and by reverse extension - we (they) are brilliant. Its meant to be an insult, but they say it to everyone thereby losing any effect. It can actually work to your advantage if you know how to play off it. Note: I misspelled a word in #2 - one should have been once .. This allows SGESMU to attack and dismiss me, and feel superior - though others looking on will see it as a joke. Should have used the word "rule" instead of "massive" (more descriptive) - another (senseless) opening for his counter-remark. And I don't follow standard punctuation rules with blogs - I treat blogs like a verbal transcript. Up late - lesson is concluded for the night. Thank you.

Posted by: hondo at January 20, 2006 02:12 AM (3aakz)

9 Sometimes I have to wonder if libtards are really as stupid as their posts make them out to be, or maybe if their idiotic posts aren't really written by Karl Rove's minions as a form of disinformation, because I can't imagine people like that going out in public unsupervised and not getting run over in traffic or something similar happening to them. Nobody can really be that stupid. Can they?

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 20, 2006 12:55 PM (0yYS2)

10 They are not stupid (as a general rule) - they are working with what they got - they think we and everyone else is stupid - which is why they think what they got to work with actually works - which it doesn't. I can live with that - I've got a thick skin and goals to accomplish.

Posted by: hondo at January 20, 2006 01:24 PM (3aakz)

11 Damn! Last tread topic on th very subject generated 93 comments, with many from lib/left drop bys. I hope I didn't spook them off, and ruin it for you guys - sorry.

Posted by: hondo at January 20, 2006 02:25 PM (3aakz)

12 Well, hondo, a liberal who couldn't stand a little spooking wouldn't be worth argueing with anyway.

Posted by: jesusland joe at January 20, 2006 05:33 PM (rUyw4)

13 Damn!

Posted by: hondo at January 20, 2006 10:49 PM (3aakz)

14 I don't know about you, but I was particularly impressed with his use of "Duh".

Posted by: Oyster at January 22, 2006 02:21 PM (YudAC)

15 Interesting thread...and revealing. I'm just old enough to remember when, to the conservative mind, the phrase "We're from the government and we're here to help" was oxymoronic in its very concept. Now government intervention in daily life can't seem to be welcomed enough, at least from what I read in blogs such as I see here. My how principles have changed and been abandoned post 9/11. Or maybe that's the largest chasm between the neos and paleos in the conservative movement.

Posted by: Drew at January 23, 2006 12:32 PM (UHKaK)

16 Nice try - but doesn't work. Phrase refers solely to domestic social/economic etc programs - but you know that - and you know there really isn't any symetry between the War On terror and the War on Poverty. Conservatives continue to distrust government - you however are terrified and fearful of government - but only when those you oppose are running it - other times you LOVE intervention. Looking to define us by your interpretations is a waste of time that achieves nothing for you. If there is a problem try looking in the mirror for the reasons.

Posted by: hondo at January 23, 2006 04:33 PM (3aakz)

17 Nice try? How about great try. "Phrase refers solely to domestic social/economic etc programs" That's how it was first used, yes, but who said it was limited to that? It's a concept that passes many, many test of government intervention. You're damn right I'm distrusting of government intervention on general principal; I'm especially fearful of it when actually used as a tool to monitor its own citizenry, as any sensible conservative would be. I'm terrified am I? This from someone so frightened for his security he's potentially willing to give up the guarantees of his privacy for as long as someone tells him to. Sorry, that's an argument that doesn't wash, whether it's Abraham Lincoln, FDR or GWB trying to hawk it.

Posted by: Drew at January 23, 2006 05:01 PM (UHKaK)

18 Great if you get anywhere with it - are you? Your fears of Govt - directed at you - for other purposes - thats the issue you want discussed - not the NSA/War Against AQ. But you had these very same fears and anxieties before all this - and you will have them long after all this - they are a key element of your overall ideological baggage - I know this - and I/we consider them grossly exaggerated and irrational. I know this is nothing more than your own ideological beliefs, and a desire to return the lib/left to some degree of political power using this as a potential vehicle. It won't work. You can try to pull, push n' twist this NSA thing to a direction and arguement you would like - but its not working now, is it?

Posted by: hondo at January 23, 2006 05:34 PM (3aakz)

19 You know, you know, you know. You know a lot. Well here's something I know: They're holding Congressional hearings on this next month... that to me says something's working.

Posted by: Drew at January 23, 2006 06:38 PM (oxMjD)

20 They hold Congressional hearings on everything every month .. your the intended audience for this one (if it actually happens) with the sole purpose of DEM politicians to stroke you and maintain your support - nothing more. But I suspect you actually know that already - and have already resigned yourself for a stroking. if it makes you happy, enjoy.

Posted by: hondo at January 23, 2006 06:47 PM (3aakz)

21 Oh, I wouldn't call a Senate hearing lead by the Republican-held Judiciary Committee a show-stroking. What it does show is that GW Bush is no longer Mr. Untouchable; the 9/11 "fear card" just can't be played with that same instant Republican pay off anymore. These hearings-- and they're already scheduled-- are just one more turd on a very smelly pile ... Abrahamoff's fallout tainting Bush (and you'll be hearing more and more on that), sinking support for the War in general, Osama still out there sending love letters (we got Hitler in less time and he had the Wermacht and Luftwaffe), Rove's continued crumbling, congressional scandals largely following low-life Republicans. And now this. One by itself would probably mean little; together, it reeks to a sick-and-tired public and means hello Dem-controlled Congress in November, thank God. And then your own Ms. Hillary in 2008, you can almost bank on it. Get ready, my man. It's coming!

Posted by: Drew at January 23, 2006 09:46 PM (oxMjD)

22 dream on drew - interesting you never actually addressed the topic of all this - I know - I know - its a problem isn't it. You could add Bush AWOL n' the like to all this, and your dream pile will grow, n' it will smell to you - but it won't sell in the end - you still have to sell yourself to the American public - and you don't know how to do that.

Posted by: hondo at January 23, 2006 10:30 PM (3aakz)

23 OK, hondo, guess we'll wait it out and see. But from a 80%-plus approval rating in 2002 down to today's 46%...looks like a few people are buying.

Posted by: Drew at January 23, 2006 10:39 PM (oxMjD)

24 Polls are just lil' snapshots of the moment - you know that - always changing - and at the end of the day - meaningless - if you didn't believe that then why the Lib/Left idiotic obsessive fears of "October Surprises"? Your funny - 46% approval? - does that suppose to mean 54% disapprove? - or are there actually several categories? The only poll that counts is on election day - everything else is just spin.

Posted by: hondo at January 23, 2006 11:01 PM (3aakz)

25 Gallup Poll today...2006 Jan 20-22 Approve: 43% Disapprove: 54% No opinion: 3% ...+/-3% of course. Month of December 2005, same numbers, slightly lower at 41% approval. November, even lower-approval in the high 30s. That's some "lil' snapshot" my friend. You don't get it. His low numbers mean bad news for Congressional Republicans this fall. Bush loses Congress and the honeymoon's over. Why do you think he's finally going open mike across the country, trying to sell this NSA move of his? Why do you think no Republican running for Congress wants a photo op with the man anymore? If I'm funny, go ahead and laugh. While you can, of course.

Posted by: Drew at January 23, 2006 11:19 PM (oxMjD)

26 A poll and 2 bucks will get you on the NY subway Its not a snapshot of lil' actual meaning? Er, then why is his approval actually rising (high 30's nov - 41 dec - 43 now) - and your optimistic of quoting these very same figures to me? Honestly - that is kinda weird - isn't it? And next month - if its 45% - will you be even more optimistic? You have a strange way of making your case.

Posted by: hondo at January 23, 2006 11:48 PM (3aakz)

27 Oh, you did intially use 46% as a poll number prior. (Even higher isn't it). I suspect you got that number from a different poll - interesting thing about differences.

Posted by: hondo at January 23, 2006 11:52 PM (3aakz)

28 I gave Bush the 3% unsure votes; 43 + 3=46. But you knew that. Oh, a 1% tick here and three does mean nothing, you're right about that. Next month it could be at 41% again and statistically it means nothing. But think of it this way: When Bill Clinton had three years left in office, his approval rating was consistently in the mid to high 60s; during his impeachment, he was at 73%. George Bush hasn't not even been above 50% since May of 2005, and that was only for a two-week period! He's typically been in the high 30s or low 40s!!!

Posted by: Drew at January 24, 2006 07:02 AM (oxMjD)

29 Oops, supposed to be: "George Bush has not even been above 50% since May of 2005," et al.

Posted by: Drew at January 24, 2006 10:07 AM (UHKaK)

30 I don't have to think of it any way. A poll is simply a momentary response - an impulse response to a series of generalized questions - and essentially meaningless as anything but a guide or abstract indicator. you have to believe and put your faith in polls because you really don't have much of anything else to go on. You even presented poll numbers - that actually showed him rising/improving - and you were oblivious to that. Does a poll tell you who people will vote for? The final decisions they have made? If so - why aren't those questions asked directly in polls? And finally - with 54% disapproval (at the moment) why doesn't the DEMs simply tell the Admin and GOP in Congress to to step aside/resign and let them take over running the Govt? They have a poll - right?

Posted by: hondo at January 24, 2006 11:49 AM (3aakz)

31 When these "momentary responses" come back as 8 months of low job approval ratings across more than a dozen polls - including Fox /Opinion Dynamics -- I think a rational person could draw some rough conclusions. Yes, George Bush's numbers have gone up two clicks in the past two months -- and they've done it before, always staying in the low to mid 40s range. That's why I used the Clinton example; at his lowest level of job approval from the very same polls, Bill Clinton barely went below the 50% mark and it cost him dearly. Since elections of 2004, Bush has rarely been above it! To me, that says people are no long willing to invest their faith in this administration. After Katrina especially, their veneer of competence has been stripped away. As for polls abstract nature, you can tell something from abstractions taken on the whole. It's kinda like the gas mileage estimate stickers they put on cars. If it says expect 16 miles per gallon, you can draw SOME conclusion that your mileage won't be great. If you're looking for 36 MPG, you can be CERTAIN this car ain't for you. The fact that Bush is consistently in the low 40s helps me draw the conclusion that he's not approved of, and not-approved of politicians are CERTAIN to have problems with the voting public, if not for themselves, then their party. What'll voters do at the polls based on all this? I don't know; my wife and I are only two voters. But I've talked to many friends; teachers, a mechanic, a guy that works at the post office, a NASCAR-loving, factory-working American guy and they can't wait to vote Dem. Why don't the DEMs tell the Admin and Congress to step aside? Well, short of impeachment, the Admin's there 'til 2008; that's the way it works in a nation of laws. As for Congress, they can; it's called an "election" and one's coming in November. We'll see what happens.

Posted by: Drew at January 24, 2006 01:13 PM (UHKaK)

32 Wishful thinking - grab whatever straw you like - fine with me.

Posted by: hondo at January 24, 2006 01:54 PM (3aakz)

33 Sure. And even those who deny the ship is sinking eventually drown.

Posted by: Drew at January 24, 2006 02:06 PM (UHKaK)

34 You realize - I'm in the boat - and your in the water flopping around - telling me my boat is sinking. Some image huh?

Posted by: hondo at January 24, 2006 02:10 PM (3aakz)

35 Nope, I'm the guy in the lifeboat pointing out the fact you're up to your ass in water. What you do with the knowledge is your business.

Posted by: Drew at January 24, 2006 02:15 PM (UHKaK)

36 OK

Posted by: hondo at January 24, 2006 04:02 PM (3aakz)

37 The Department of Justice has backed the Bush Administration's claim that the President has inherent authority to listen to international phone calls with suspeced terrorists abroad. Yes, he does. Does he need a warrant to do so? That's the question. Does a cop need to give you your Miranda rights? Yes. I suspect the President doesn't have the authority to listen to international(did they mean domestic?) phone calls without a warrant. But the law is the law, and hopefully, all Presidents (since 197 have not broken the law when it comes to warrants on listening to America's private conversations. As far as The Department of Justice backing the Bush Administration inherent authority to listen to international phonecalls with suspected terrorist abroad. Yes Bush has that authority abroad with international phonecalls. But does the President of the United States have the inherent authority to listen to domestic phone calls with suspected terrorist abroad without a warrant? We will soon find out. My guess is no. Even a policeman who arrests a suspected child molester, better have the smarts to recite the molester Miranda rights, or else that molester could be free to go. I hope that Bush has the smarts to understand his actions and the consequence of them.

Posted by: Daniel at January 26, 2006 06:20 PM (VQNcV)

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